MotK Grand List of Nicks:post in thread to be added (yes sometimes I miss people sorry :( )
Likaros (YellowYoshi1)
DefinitelySatori (SomewhatMystia)
DanDanRevolution (Cyclone)
ReimuHakureiSM (Golden PX)
Wasabikun (Bitmap)
Kyo Tanaka (Kyo Tanaka)
Cheez Bix (Andrewv42)
Ryuumasken (Ryuu)
Ruffa (Rukaroa)
Daxarian (Evies)
MoltenTruros (Molten) (NA/EUNE)
FFMaster (FFmaster)
Esifex (Esifex)
Fizzleboom (Cadmas)
jaxter0987 (jaxter0987)
Landonpeanut (Landon)
Lord Varuna (Anima Zero)
ACTlONDAN (ActionDan)
Darkslime7 (DarkSlimeZ)
Ryoshima Nanbu (Hanzo K.)
Admiral Skye (Admiral Skye)
Rikter (Rikter)
Kishuni (Taboo)
linthuslyth(linthuslyth)
Yaersulf(Yaersulf)
Yukarin(Yukarin)
Garlyle Wilds (Garlyle)
Leothbious (Suikama)
EyeMtheStron9est (EyeMtheStron9est)
Dr Rawr (nurse rawr)
theshim (theshim)
Galfrey (Nemo)
PureamLance (Chaore)
Tetran (Firestorm)
StrawberryDragon(hyorinryu)
Caedo Ergo Sum(Dormio)
gammaraptor(gammaraptor)
demonbman(demonbman)
Sacchi Hikaru(Sacchi Hikaru)
DoubleDibble (DoubleDibble)
Jam Kiske (Jam-Kiske)
Smashnuke (Smashy)
taterbox (triangles)
O Komachi on NA/Noxisscia on EUW (Ayrix)
Mauru (Mimeslayer)
Ippikiryu (Ippikiryu)
Raikaria on EUW (Raikaria)
Cirno on PH (s.tinkrbell)
Nathaniel Varner (Patorikku)
Blackbattler (Schezo)
Watermelonz9 (Watermelonz9)
kaossakana (Kaos Sakana)
Raitaki (Raitaki)
WanderingBeats on PH (WanderingBeats)
ARAM 24/7, what is summoner's riftYeah basically
Once again forgotten ;_;fixed
Plz add me to the list, nick Raitaki ;_;
fixedDoesn't beat that Soraka with 4 warmogs and a deathcap I saw back before Howling Gale
just played an ARAM in which our Nautilus built six giant's belts
he was the Nomura Nautilus
brb playing Final Nautilus XIII
ARAM 24/7, what is summoner's rift
I've been playing too much Jayce and Kayle lately, and I want to build either Ravenous Hydra or Runaan's Hurricane more often, but neither one is a good full-time item for either champ. Both items will work in their respective modes of attack for each champion, of course, so of course there's no reason to expect both to work all the time - Hydra effect on Runaan bolts? Yeah that'd go over well
Also doesn't Fiora get tiamat/Hydra typically?
Also doesn't Fiora get tiamat/Hydra typically?
Runaan is a good item on Kayle actually, since it also procs the magical dmg on hit of her E though not the splash (so the one person you're right clicking actually gets the LEAST DMG :U). On the other hand, between her E, move steroids and ult, I don't see why you would build her tanky -> I don't see why you would ever want to fight without your E, thus there's really no reason to get a Hydra on her.
And what? Parrrley procs Hydra AoE? That doesn't make sense :U Unless you mean the AoE procs the gold bonus, which doesn't make sense either since that's only for Parrrley last hits.
.Or Nasus Q
You see, every now and then Raikaria is right. I like finding uses for underused items. No-one sees these things coming.
Although I never considered it on TTT, and I guess GP is better there than on SR... and his incremental gold bonuses are effectivly worth more when there's less gold overall.
Which reminds me that it's a Syndra freeweek therefor I must do Muramana Syndra.
EDIT: I'm a moron it's not a Syndra freeweek what am I saying
the only issue i see with that build is that it's a little squishy. you get some defense from gauntlet, but if you rush those two items, you end up easier to chew up than you would on a more typical buildpathExcept in TT usually if someone's alone and I pop out to fight them they're like OMFG IT'S GP and start running even though all I built for tankiness was phage :P Early game crits + E gp (I start with either Avarice or cloak of agi + pots, depending on how easy I think it would be to last hit without being harassed) can solo and win against just about anyone without a stun. Once I went lv1 vs lv3 a Master Yi who went Wuju style first, and all I had was Avarice and long sword and my E, and I still managed to solo him down to about 40%. Lategame I stick near other people, so I can poke with impunity and have backup if whoever I'm poking jumps me. Apparently rushing Hydra/Tiamat also gives gp some much-needed non-random burst early game to secure kills, and if you're dueling someone near a bunch of minions of both sides after Q, Crescent and 1-2 AAs, pretty much the whole enemy minion wave vanishes (people rarely notice their minions vanishing during duels), and in case you already have Hydra you also get some nice heals out of all that.
also it's not as fun as critplank B)
Puncturing Taunt
Can no longer target minions
playing wow has made me so shitty at this game againClearly we need to play together so you can feel better by comparison. :yukkuri:
i'm so covered in rust i am like silver 3 all over again
my rank is decaying and i cant seem to care :derp:silver V, you can't be demoted to another tier.
when does it stop anyways? bronze I or silver v?
silver V, you can't be demoted to another tier.AFAIK, inactivity-based decay doesn't give a damn about league demotion...
*Looks at PBE patch notes*...So they split malady into wit's end and nashor's..?
So, i now have a north American smurf. EUW was just THAT bad this morning.Can we botlane adc+apc
O Komachi
feel free to add, annoy or generally flame as you so wish.
So, i now have a north American smurf. EUW was just THAT bad this morning.
O Komachi
feel free to add, annoy or generally flame as you so wish.
Is your user the same on EUW? You're not on the list.No, it's "O Komachi" (lest I ever want to migrate my main over) sorry if the post was slightly unclear.
So your user on EUW is 'O Komachi'No my summoner on NA is.
Noxisscia on EUW (Ayrix)
Congratulations guys!Maybe if I join it. And not be support or carry.
Now, if only the DotS-Meido dota team was as successful. :(
imo being the dragon isn't THAT strong. the initiation is the real value in her ult
There are characters with high sustain
There was pre nerf AP Trynd
And then... there is Aartrox (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TezTkCI8QeU)
That's a spellvamp bug actually.more like
Hokays so I have ~3300 IP right now. Which do I choose to get me closer to my goal of not being useless in ranked?manamune + spirit of the lizard elder +iceborn gauntlet
A) Sona
B) Janna + hybrid pen rune(s?) for my Suppordle page (how does spellcheck not yell at me for that one?)
C) All of the remainder of my hybrid pen runes
Also what exactly is this "blue Ezreal" thing we are now seeing? I was paired with one yesterday he told us in the pregame chat, and like he was building tear of the goddess and sheen and lucidity boots (!?!?) during the laning phase instead of stuff that, you know, does more than tickle the other ADC and was straight up auto attacking the minions to push to the tower the whole time. Had a long sword or two, I just remember seeing those three things and nothing else that had much attack damage on it and man did it show.
I mean the team as a whole wasn't doing great across the board that game, and I guess he was pumping out a more respectable amount of damage after he did go and build some AD things but I somehow don't think the other 4 people were the "noobs gonna force [him] into noob tier" after placements. What is this build supposed to do/be in theory, cause this guy sure missed the mark.
He had the first two at the end + BORK BORK but not the last one. Ez was definitely doing peanuts for damage for the first half of it so pair that with me losing The War Of Pinks - on that note I don't get why people are all "lol bronze they don't know what wards are" I've never had pinking battles until I started my ranked placements - and an enemy Fizz that mopped the floor with our midlaner and thus joined their jungler for ganks and we had a baaaad time :(Never had a match (in Bronze V) where supports didn't ward properly (unless they'd been forced into that role, or think they're an AP carry), where they buy them and don't actually place the damn things.
Yeah, I can see how it could be a mid-late game truck of pain but you have to get to that part first :ohdear:
guis guis what if we made an MoTK ranked team :V(One of) the problem(s) with that is that like half the people here seem to main support :flamingv:
(One of) the problem(s) with that is that like half the people here seem to main support :flamingv:Solution: Rotate first picker so that the person who has the fewest games played as first pick gets first pick, then everyone else gets roles strictly based on pick order. Only swap champs, no swapping roles. By season 4 we'll all be ultimate all-rounders C:<
(One of) the problem(s) with that is that like half the people here seem to main support :flamingv:and what is wrong with 5 supports :P, it's practically how LCS teams start the match, wards everywhere. The chain-stuns, man the chain-stuns.
and what is wrong with 5 supports :P, it's practically how LCS teams start the match, wards everywhere. The chain-stuns, man the chain-stuns.I think me and mah friends tried that once. Think it was Lee + Jarvan jung.
Screw the meta. (I still want to try out the duo jungle comp)
Considering I can do all roles at least consistently (Weakness being jungle) I wouldn't mind doing a MotK team.
Problem is, I play in the BR server. :V
(I still want to try out the duo jungle comp)
You can always make an na alt. I know quite a few people do it.
should i list the multitudes of reasons why this comp is incredibly high risk and mostly ineffectualit needs your adc to be able to hold a lane 1v2 (or even 1v3), at lvl 1.
speaking of ranked teams a sorta motk affiliated team won a small 8 team tourney recently for 30 riot bucks and the tourney skin.
yay rikter/ace-royale/panda/drrawr/joe
speaking of ranked teams a sorta motk affiliated team won a small 8 team tourney recently for 30 riot bucks and the tourney skin.
yay rikter/ace-royale/panda/drrawr/joe
it needs your adc to be able to hold a lane 1v2 (or even 1v3), at lvl 1.
your junglers will each have less gold than a solo one would.
one jungler has to not need the blue buff early game
both must be able to gank at lvl 2
on the other hand
it is more gold efficient (all kills should be assisted anyway, so that 10 gold per smite and counter jungle gold adds up)
should put their jungler at a huge disadvantage compared to normal due to tons of counter jungle
very few champs can handle 3v1s early game, their being slightly out of position will result in them feeding you.
your carry will out level their opponents
huge map awareness advantage, you force additional warding and need less yourself
Still sounds fun.
Hmm...Lissandra with 2s CD on everything and infinitely more mana usage?
What if there was a champ whose QWE abilities all worked similar to kog's ult, in that they are all low-cd abilities which drastically increase in mana cost when used in quick succession? As for what these abilities would be, I'd imagine a skillshot nuke of some kind (possibly one that behaves like Karma or Galio Q), a short-range dash with added effect similar to Riven or Vayne's Q, and a self-centered aoe of some kind, possibly one that does minor or no damage but applies a stackable debuff of some kind. Not sure what the ult would be, but then again, it's not going to happen anyways.
Still, fun to think about. :derp:
I was in a ranked team. Got invited by a friend of a friend. Then she didn't do anything with the team until eventually we got notification that the team was about to lose the right to it's name due to inactivity (without ever having played a game). I tried contacting her, but she never was online in neither LoL nor skype. a week before we lost the team, I got kicked to make way for more of her other friends, and now they are playing.Yeah, I'm "supposed" to be part of a ranked team with some friends but we never even got our first placement game done even back in season 2 when we were literally all hanging out together to watch the championship finals (because by the time they were done and we were going to play together they were almost all dead drunk)
...so I guess I wasn't really ever in a ranked team. :derp:
I would not be opposed to an MotK Ranked team but the main thing is that I hardly touch summoner's rift ever anymore. (would totally ranked 3s tho)Yeah me too. I'm quite decent with TT myself :3
Hmm...
What if there was a champ whose QWE abilities all worked similar to kog's ult, in that they are all low-cd abilities which drastically increase in mana cost when used in quick succession? As for what these abilities would be, I'd imagine a skillshot nuke of some kind (possibly one that behaves like Karma or Galio Q), a short-range dash with added effect similar to Riven or Vayne's Q, and a self-centered aoe of some kind, possibly one that does minor or no damage but applies a stackable debuff of some kind. Not sure what the ult would be, but then again, it's not going to happen anyways.
Still, fun to think about. :derp:
Cassiopeia is basically this but costs less mana per cast.Ryze spams Q and likes to build tons of mana, but that is where the similarities end. Cassiopeia's mana management is pretty much the exact opposite of my idea. :derp:
Also Ryze.
started playing. can't solo queue until level five. riot plz
name is amraphenson
started playing. can't solo queue until level five. riot plzIsn't it just ARAM (and ranked) that's locked by level.
name is amraphenson
Ezreal/Cait were a premade bot that somehow won against the world's worst Ashe with the reaction speed of slug and just attacking creeps instead of lasthitting, that somehow got a Quadra anyway on clean-up duty because we stayed too long in their base, and a TF 'support'.Premade anything can win against solo anything, and I fail to see how two ranged carries isn't a valid strategy bot lane. They could potentially completely deny the enemy adc their farm.
Premade anything can win against solo anything, and I fail to see how two ranged carries isn't a valid strategy bot lane. They could potentially completely deny the enemy adc their farm.
This is why I stopped playing Summoner's Rift. All creativity and fun is stifled thanks to the god-awful 'meta' that is enforced right from the get-go at level 5 normals. "hurr you have to play this champion here because the meta says so". No, fuck you. Not even the tournament players conform to it every single game. I remember an instance of jungle Ez and mid Janna with a unique strategy that won the game for the team in the LCS some weeks ago. Wish that would happen more.
Playing a champ outside of their usual role is one thing. Hell there's quite a few champs that can go anywhere except ADC.:S
But putting two farm-reliant champs in the same lane just leaves them both underfarmed if the enemy duo can deal with it (the enemy adc did have a support, right?). The thing about the LCS and other major tourneys is that they can plan out crazy strategies that involve stuff like jungle Heimerdinger or jungle Ezreal. There's nowhere near that amount of coordination in ranked.
There's also the stories I've heard of duoed botlanes constantly losing bigtime, but that's probably a different discussion entirely.
Playing a champ outside of their usual role is one thing. Hell there's quite a few champs that can go anywhere except ADC.
But putting two farm-reliant champs in the same lane just leaves them both underfarmed if the enemy duo can deal with it (the enemy adc did have a support, right?). The thing about the LCS and other major tourneys is that they can plan out crazy strategies that involve stuff like jungle Heimerdinger or jungle Ezreal. There's nowhere near that amount of coordination in ranked.
There's also the stories I've heard of duoed botlanes constantly losing bigtime, but that's probably a different discussion entirely.
new restrictions on new accounts mean that you can't do actual matches until level 5.My NA smurf is like a week old, it didn't have any, and we haven't had a content patch since then.
...The happenings in Normals confuse me...
I'd play on a motk team.spoilers: nobody in here could possibly keep up to you
We might have enough people (as some are around, just maybe don't post here too often) even to make two squads to cut down on people getting frustratedBy the by, there can be up to 10 people in a team, and you can be in multiple ranked teams at once, can't you? Thus there really shouldn't be any problems, as far as I see.at me because I am in scrub tier
And then I'll name my team something along the lines of Surrender Button OP.
EDIT: OK I DID JUST THAT.
So uh, Team Surrender Button OP should probably the more chillz less skillz group because I'm in it :V NA server.
i don't know about rumble ult being useless now
anything that makes people split up and move away from some skill like gp ult, panth ult, or rumble ult is good imo
so long as we agree not to get super hotheaded over it or anything???
I'd be in, but, uh, yeah. EUW.they still need to react, and zoning potential is still massive. If the choice is stand in flamespitter or escape through the ulti that can split up a team.
Except the AoE from Rumble ult is a simple Sidestep that any mobility skill ever evades, even Tumble or Valor. GP/Pantheon is a huge ring of DONOTSTAND
Ok just so I don't mangle this up if you are interested in TEAM SURRENDER BUTTON OP leave your name in-thread or send me a message in game or something. This is going to be a bronze/low silver (maybe? sure not from my contribution hahaha) adventure so this isn't where you want to be if you get mad at people who don't have 95 cs at the 10 minute mark or sometimes forget to use an active item or whatever.I would do, but i'm lvl 10 on NA. (I may be in Europe, but I'm awake funny hours)
(http://i.imgur.com/cqdMew8.jpg)
I hereby introduce y'all
le ultimit gp blue ls build
courtest of raikaria
Holy fucking shit I kept cleaning up fight aftermaths 3v1 with them each having like 20% more HP than me after Janna pushed me into jungle it's gotten pretty sad
Proof that his ult does some damage still. : )
http://www.twitch.tv/eyemthestron9est/c/2345957
Sorry about my voice or whatever.
Ok just so I don't mangle this up if you are interested in TEAM SURRENDER BUTTON OP leave your name in-thread or send me a message in game or something. This is going to be a bronze/low silver (maybe? sure not from my contribution hahaha) adventure so this isn't where you want to be if you get mad at people who don't have 95 cs at the 10 minute mark or sometimes forget to use an active item or whatever.
Apparently I stumbled upon something that is scary in 3's.
Your whole team was also adding damage. Irelia didn't lose all of her HP due to your ult. Thresh had no HP in the first place. Varus was being focused.
Apparently Rumble Ult is good at doing the last tiny bit of damage needed to take kills.
It's not better for teamfights now either. It's total damage now is the same as the total damage before. The slow is just as strong. Except that requires people to stand on it for 5 seconds. Saying his ult is BETTER for teamfights now is just wrong.
And as I said before, the skill reward dropped. You don't get rewarded for HITTING the ult anymore. It's just a line of DO NOT CROSS. Which is what really annoys me. Did it need a nerf? Yes. Did it need removal of an aspect that rewarded skill? No. Nerfing impact damage or the total damage is good, but taking out the reward for a direct hit was bad, as it lowered the skill ceiling.
I find it irritateing that happened. Whereas before you used the ultimate to maximize impact damage AND zoneing at the same time, now it's just a DONOTCROSS line, with no secondary aim.
DONOTCROSS line
this is why i'm not asking for an invite hahahah aha haaha ah hasob sob sob sboButbut, I need to learn from the master :ohdear:
Butbut, I need to learn from the master :ohdear:
(yes I know Eyem is better than you I don't care)
also i get S O M A D (which is part of why i migrated to wow lolol)...oh. I figured you just didn't want to deal with people getting angry... not the other way round. :X
rumble ult does do damage what the fuck are you smoking
sometimes I hate this game a lot
and the fanbase
but right now, I really hate Dignitas.UK
Only if you're a moron and stand in it.yes, because the damage definitely doesn't keep ticking after you walk off, that's at least two if not three seconds of damage (260/390) out of the full 650 you can get just out of base damage not referring to resistances
Only if you're a moron and stand in it. Anyone with any jump whatsoever will only take 1 tick of damage. Oh wow 75 damage with an ult against most toplaners that Rumble will have to fight! Some Rank 1 spells do more than that!Exactly! Also, all skillshot abilities are completely useless because dash abilities will prevent the enemy from getting hit. If only these mobility moves had cooldowns, or there would be movement-impairing effects that are guaranteed to hit so you can limit the enemy's ability to dodge.
sometimes I hate this game a lotThis for playing with the enemy team instead of just ending games after they win in 10 minutes?
and the fanbase
but right now, I really hate Dignitas.UK
This for playing with the enemy team instead of just ending games after they win in 10 minutes?
Watched them on saturday, was just painful.
Can we let Ryuu play under the condition everyone else must have him muted
:V
i don't get vocally mad or rageYou can play in the less-skilled branch then
i just get mad and play shitty
ugg those games where you're team mates don't even try and the entire game is boring.
TF pulling two blue cards at the start shuts a jungler down real fast.
Today I learned that duo queueing with someone who's (likely) not too much higher ranked than you during your initial placements COMPLETELY messes up matchmaking because they assume you are laning together and also really good. I am not :V
That may be a bad TF, not one not trying :/ Or he coulda REALLY needed mana for the Wild afterwards.
...so. Should we set a time & date to play a bit as Surrender Button OP? For instance, somewhen this weekend? I'm not sure if I would be available at the time the rest of you would be available, considering timezones, but I would try. ^^This weekend I'll be able to play Saturday/Sunday mornings and evenings (EST/New York City time) Not so much afternoons since I'm probably going to my parents' and they have lousy wireless. Actually, tonight MJP and I should both be on!
And can I make something clear for the rest of the members of SBOP, as I shall now call the team? Because I think this should be made clear for the sake of minimal rage when we kick off the ground into the fierce grounds of ranked play: I'm a terrible tank. Don't make me tank.I am the worst at melee anything, except jungle since then I don't have to deal with dying trying to last hit. Like half the thread my best role is support, but I do also enjoy the pewpews.
'During your initial placements' means no-one's ranked around you. Since the system is attempting to pair you up with people to see your level of skill, but you're duoing, while one of you is unranked, that probobly would cause matchmaking to go a little zany.Like you said, it definitely varies a lot. I've had games where everyone is unranked and of them clearly had no idea what last hitting or not towerdiving were but some were clearly around whatever level I'd wind up as, and ones where everyone minus myself and one other person between Bronze II - Silver IV, but those people would be equally distributed. In yesterday's game, everyone on the other team was silver and everyone on my team was bronze or me. I expect to be placed like Bronze IV-III with how I'm going so far.
Aside from that, your MMR could be wildly different [And yours should be wildly changing]. Who are you getting matched against.
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I'm open to invite all this weekend after I get out of work @ either 2 or 5pm est.
Prefer a lane role in SR (top/mid) but I can fill any role. If on TT I'd like to be the jungler.
Didn't we used to have an motk chat? I never joined it b/c I knew Ryuu would be there and I was upset at him at the time.
Didn't we used to have an motk chat? I never joined it b/c I knew Ryuu would be there and I was upset at him at the time.It's always quiet! Though I guess this is as good a time as any to revive it.
LEAGUE JUDGMENT: MARSHFELLOW, THE SWEET PRINCE (http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2013/05/29)This is the best champ
Candidate: Marshfellow Ser Pufflin Date: 33 March, 24 CLE
OBSERVATION
As a mount, clouds make for slow travel. A cloudling, even slower. And Cirrus was a cloudling with ADHD. You do the math.
Every minute it seemed there was a fascinating lichen, or a new plant, or a rock - a fucking rock - that necessitated intense concentration until such time as it was forgotten absolutely in search of the next wholly useless stimuli. This is how Marshfellow Ser Pufflin came to arrive at the Institute of War almost twenty years after his departure from the Moistlands.
He thought of this as he thoughtfully knotted the cloudling?s mist-reins on the mountrod.
?Stay here, Cirrus,? His Deliciousness warbled, like a penguin encased in gelatin. ?Where I go, I go alone.?
REFLECTION
Steel. And heat. And hot, white blood.
He felt himself squozen through the twin fallopias, pressure beyond measure, as his consciousness fired into the mold. It gave him eyes, to witness his making. It gave him arms, to gouge out the eyes. It gave him a mouth, to catalogue every moment of his terror.
In the midst of these horrors, a tiny cloud bobbed. The cloud was looking at nothing in particular, as hard as it could.
?Cirrus, for Fuck?s sake!? cried His Expansiveness. ?I told you stay out-fucking-side!?
?You?re a marshmallow, man,? said Cirrus. ?I mean, you?re a marshmallow-man.?
?That?s a machine that makes marshmallows, and it made you, and now you?re a marshmallow man. This is the least complicated, least majestic origin imaginable. You came out of a machine that makes an infinite number of dudes exactly like you. That?s what?s up.?
The Flavorian scoffed thoroughly. ?What about my chromascepter? This has kind of a mystical thing going on,? suggested Marshfellow, whirling the rainbow disc and tentatively slicing the air with it. ?I think I could get up to some pretty mystical shit with this bad boy.?
?It?s a sucker.?
?Really??
?Try to do magic with it.?
?I? don?t want to right now.?
?No??
?No,? snarled the Prince. ?I had a late night. So, can I join the League, or what???
Visions melted into syrup, revealing a semicircle of grim and masked sorcerials. The summoners looked at each other for awhile, and shrugged.
?I?ll take that as a yes.?
So what do we say to 6pm EST tonight for the inaugural game of TEAM SURRENDER BUTTON OP?That would be midnight for me, so still a very managable time. I'm for it!
(ps I don't really know what I am doing in 3v3 but I'll fake it haha)To kill the Cyberdemon, shoot at it until it dies.
MJP got stuck at work so I dunno when we'll be ready to play, probably more 6:30-7 BUT if we got a full squad anyway I'll spectate :3Well, I am on standby waiting for enough people to come online... :V
Also, a question for the all-knowing (I'm looking at you ryuu, you too eyem.).No.
If one of rumble's skills already put him over 50% heat, will that skill already be enpowered?
-Why the everloving hell did you get a Madred's and a Spirit Stone?
-Why did you get Madred's at all?
-Why did you switch to red buff and why did you not return to blue or at least do wraiths?
WELCOME TO THE LEAGUE OF DRAVEN (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PP8gNZRq1Nk)fucking incredible
WELCOME TO THE LEAGUE OF DRAVEN (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PP8gNZRq1Nk)
4 win streak, 37 LP.
I'm used to that being like 12~24.
Also why would you take Ghost/Exhaust on Tryndamere when someone picks Maokai?
Why would you pick Cassio into Kassidin?
Silly near-golds.
Also, I browsed my division, and saw this guy:
(http://i407.photobucket.com/albums/pp152/Allosawyou/1p81%20Emerald/lag_zpsb43fe20e.png) (http://s407.photobucket.com/user/Allosawyou/media/1p81%20Emerald/lag_zpsb43fe20e.png.html)
Apparently, my Division has lag in it.
Cassio's whole deal is sustained damage and landing venoms. She is squishy. She has no escape.Cass is usually built a tad tankier than most non-tank AP mids though. Also, being a DPS champ who doesn't rely much on keeping on spamming spells also make her suffer less from the silence than most other mids. Pre-6 she also outranges Kass A LOT, so she can zone him all the way to turret with her poisons. Being melee AND AP, Kass can barely last hit without using spells, and since his post-6 burst is quite mana-expensive at first (except if for some reason he decides to just regular-walk up to people to burst them), he either needs to conserve mana near 6 and sacrifice cs, or burn mana for cs and waste a recall trip back if he gets turret pushed. This situation gets even worse for him if the other champ can easily poke him while well beyond turret range, like Cass.
What does Cassio do when Kas hits Lv 6? Kassa just riftwalks, silences, and then murders the snake and there's nothing she can do about it. Venom ticks even give more AS for autos with Nether Blade, and skill spam gives you Force Pulse.
Here's what Cassio does. She dies.
Oh and she can't even ult. Kassadin will hear the startup and just R away.
Tryndamere spins. However Maokai is still following because that's what Twisted Advance does. He cannot reset the spin by attacking a Counter-Striking Jax, because how do you Crit through Dodge? I probobly should have mentioned it was Jax in the lane too, so he can stun Tryndamere. [Also Tryndamere has Teleport, not Exhaust, my bad there]
If Tryndamere has flash he could Flash + Spin into his own tower separate me from Jax, and kill me.
Oh and she can't even ult. Kassadin will hear the startup and just R away.
you mean like how cassiopeia can watch for kassadin's startup to his ult and just ult as soon as he lands and kill him????As someone playing with 200 ping, both of you guys' proposals make me sad.
you mean like how cassiopeia can watch for kassadin's startup to his ult and just ult as soon as he lands and kill him????
Cass is usually built a tad tankier than most non-tank AP mids though. Also, being a DPS champ who doesn't rely much on keeping on spamming spells
also make her suffer less from the silence than most other mids. Pre-6 she also outranges Kass A LOT, so she can zone him all the way to turret with her poisons. Being melee AND AP, Kass can barely last hit without using spells, and since his post-6 burst is quite mana-expensive at first (except if for some reason he decides to just regular-walk up to people to burst them), he either needs to conserve mana near 6 and sacrifice cs, or burn mana for cs and waste a recall trip back if he gets turret pushed. This situation gets even worse for him if the other champ can easily poke him while well beyond turret range, like Cass.
And even after six, Kass still doesn't really have an advantage over Cass without an item advantage he most likely doesn't have yet at that point of the game. If Cass knows what to expect, she can counter Kass's bursts by placing her poisons in his expected destination as soon as he starts doing his ult animation (you can even see him facing that direction so it's not hard to anticipate), and since she has BOTH a slow and a speed boost on her Q and W (and having been keeping distance the whole time) she can just easily retreat back to turret and Kass would be lucky to land even one aa without burning flash. As for Cass's ult, you forget that Kass needs to ult in to deal damage post-6 unless his opp is winning too hard to bother keeping distance, and the ~6 seconds CD on the ult is plenty time for Cass to land her ult, even if she has to wait out the silence first.
Well, yeah, however the Cass didn't do that :/
And even then, what happens every time he Riftwalks when your ult is on it's cooldown?
by that point, cassiopeia should have a massive lead based off the previous posts and kassadin shouldn't be an issue
then she can just shove the lane as soon as she gets there and gank other lanes, leaving kassadin to poorly farm at turret
Cass ganks are thwarted by any ward.
oh gee golly willikers batman, i guess no gank should ever be effective ever because everyone without a blink is stopped by wards!
Wait, Noxus Blast stacks?
And, what.
Noxus BlastNoxious. Noxious.
http://puu.sh/37QbX.png(http://i.imgur.com/URjiFxn.gif)
http://puu.sh/37QkU.png
God Dammit Riot.
How do lose 6 rank games in row?It happens, it's the same odds as winning 6 in a row after all (if the matchmaking is working okay).
Also I just noticed three of my team were in promotion games that last game. Yet they never mentioned it.Is there any reason to mention it? It's not like your teammates are gonna play better for it. If anything, they might play worse. :derp:
Is there any reason to mention it? It's not like your teammates are gonna play better for it. If anything, they might play worse. :derp:
Just a heads up, MJP and I are going to be off staffing a convention this weekend, so we will not be around for any TEAM SURRENDER BUTTON OP shenanigans, but I think there's enough people involved that there can still be a 5man group happening.I'm heading home on the weekend, where my connection might be bad (single digit kb/s bad), which would obviously mean that playing LoL would be most unwise should that be the case. If it is alright, I might join, but I'll have to see.
I get angry whenever I see Vi in a game.it sounds like someone in here doesn't like getting punched in the face
Not because I think she's a bad champ; I've never played her. But Jesus her design is a perfect storm of suck.
So Eyem, I never realized how good you were until I watched your stream. It was kind of funny because I got there through aphromoo's stream when you two were on the same stream.
Can't understand why people still go gp top.
I can actually see it working quite well against Elise.
Nhap, this guy picked GP versus a Malphite. You can guess how that went.
Personally I stopped playing GP after they nerfed him for the billionize time. The only way I dare play him is in the jungle.
Takes way too long to build him if you go the hyper carry route. Has about no defense if forced under his tower [But can farm well under it]. Doesn't wave clear well [Unless youy go Tiamat/IBG/Shiv].
I just replaced my top roster with pretty much VI.
It's not Rumble.
Source: http://www.reignofgaming.net/redtracker/topic/95451-morello-next-ultimate-skin?page=2
Being Maven of Strings is suffering.and now more sona nerfs :colonveeplusalpha:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=n_crW67UBDU
League of Gapclosers: When the most common ADC autoattack range is considered short :colbert:
It is hell playing ADC [Specifically Ezreal, who's AA range is pretty short] against:I'd imagine it'd be even worse if you were just about anyone else. Ez does have his E, and assuming you were going blue build, his "auto-range" would be quite high. One of the better options, especially when combined with each "auto" emits an AoE slow on hit. Not sure I'd be anyone besides ez in that situation. I can't help but wonder what your team was doing though.
AP Tristana in lane [Instajibs]
Fed Veigar [Instajibs]
Teleport Homeguard fed Hecarim with Ghostblade, Triforce and Zephyr [Pretty much instajibs with Ult+E and an auto, can't run away from him]
Alistar [Holds you in place for said instajibs]
Sejuani [See Alistar]
Possibly the most unfun game I've played for quite a while. My options were 1: Stay away and do nothing or 2: Try and help and explode.
This was a normal, of course, so no effect on my promotion or anything.
I've heard this theme before. A Korean game actually used it for an preveiw
So apparently Sona's W power chord NEVER worked all this time. It did 0% dmg reduction and was a complete waste over Q and E chords.
riot pls
all my placeboas compensation it should now do 100% damage reduction BV
christ it hurts
Seriously? Your only real chance is Merc Treads (unless Veigar could gib you without Dark Matter in which case uh), poke a ton with Q, and hope you can kite Hecarim long enough because that does not sound like a durable build. Could also use a Banshee's to block something (Which is what I assume the Negatron was going towards).
I've heard this theme before. A Korean game actually used it for an preveiwGiven its memetic status, though... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFDQuGX1JT0)
My MMR is so low I'm getting 6lp a win :(
ThreshWelp so much for that trick
Death Sentence
Fixed a bug where Thresh could cast Flash while casting Death Sentence
Boots of Speedoh boy boots 4 pots meta return
Cost reduced to 325
Poros have gone through an 80s action movie training montage and now have some resistance to lasers
The search terms "Spooky Ghosts" have been added to the in-game item shop.I stand corrected
Actually that's a point. Why would I start Longsword 2 when I can start Doran's 2 now?Dblade is still 475, only ring and shield are changed
Unless I really don't want to waste about 200 gold in sell price, which I'd probobly burn in pots anyway [Or dying to D-Blades].
Oh boy everyone starts D-Blade botlane meta coming back.
It's not diversifying start builds. It's making there be fewer. Boots still suck to start with since they are only 25 MS now and everyone and their mother has dashes and slows anyway.
Kha'Zix: Oh gawd, I think the evolved Q buff is a little too good for dueling, anyone sharing my thoughts? And what does the second to last line on W mean, does it mean only the triple shot consumes passive for slow, or that it consumes passive to fire triple shots? And the W already hurts, why are you buffing its damage and cost Riot? raaaaaaaaaaaarThe change is completely removing its ability to proc his passive when evolved, so it's a direct damage nerf to the skill, which it badly needed. The slow was added and the AD ratio adjusted so it doesn't lose all its power. The point is that evolved W no longer has any interaction with his passive.
I think people's still gonna max Kha'Zix's W first as always, except now they'd do either Q->W->E evolutions or W->Q->E and Kha'Zix is getting even more of a crazy glass cannon burst jungler than before. Callin' it :<
Kha'Zix: Oh gawd, I think the evolved Q buff is a little too good for dueling, anyone sharing my thoughts? And what does the second to last line on W mean, does it mean only the triple shot consumes passive for slow, or that it consumes passive to fire triple shots? And the W already hurts, why are you buffing its damage and cost Riot? raaaaaaaaaaaar
I think people's still gonna max Kha'Zix's W first as always, except now they'd do either Q->W->E evolutions or W->Q->E and Kha'Zix is getting even more of a crazy glass cannon burst jungler than before. Callin' it :<
If you guys haven't tried doing this, you should.that looks terrifying ;-;
If you guys haven't tried doing this, you should.Why.
(http://i.imgur.com/Er6JQuN.png)Welcome to Hook City
If you guys haven't tried doing this, you should.
so, is Jayce basically only good for his ranged mode?Jayce is a huge dick because he can poke extremely hard in cannon mode, can all-in like a truck in hammer, and is basically immune to melee champions because he can just hammer them away if you ever get on him. His ability to choose exactly when he wants to fight is one of his strongest points in lane. He falls off in teamfights, though.
Just asking; I don't know much about the League meta nowadays.
Whereas I just discovered how fun it isn't to play someone who likes HP against Brand and Kog'maw in a lane together.
... ugh. Oh well, bots only, time killing, etc etc, why did they bother with Aatrox? I mean, yeah, whoo, he has some nifty mechanics on his skills, but he really just seems like a Zac 2.0. Except his ranged poke/slow goes slower and he can't jump as far.
i am enjoying sona's increased tankiness very much <3So I just witnessed 3 consecutive Sonas leading bunches of people on epic loops 'round the jungle
*Sees Crs lost to Vulcun*Your avatar fits your post well.
Good. Hopefully that continues. Stupid traitor Edward screwing over EU at all stars [Well, all evidence points to that being why he played so godawful]
[The VoD is such low quality I can't even see what happened. It's 240p ._.]
On the other hand not surprised thatQuanticCloud 9 is doing well.
Still no support announced for Gambit, and the EU LCS starts tomorrow.Well they beat SK with Edward D/C'ed 4v5 a year ago, so I'm sure they can do it again anyway
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In other news, why on earth are people picking Tryndalol so often? I seriously just had someone pick Tryndamere into Lulu. Do you know what happens if you do that?
Glitterlance, Whimsy, Sheild to block any hit you do connect, Glitterlance...
And he is kited forever. Or for the 5 seconds his ult lasts.
Your avatar fits your post well.
What the hell is up with that Draven change? That's going to wreck him. His whole strength was based around the massive damage from chaining crit and/or spinning axes and stacking the bleed.
What the hell is up with that Draven change? That's going to wreck him. His whole strength was based around the massive damage from chaining crit and/or spinning axes and stacking the bleed.
Note the Tear nerf, 3 mana per charge. Also an indirect buff to upgradeing the tear early, rather than sitting on it, as Manamuna is +5, and Seraphs is +6.NOOOO
NOOOO
Archangel's has so little utility and cost-efficiency I always opt to wait for it to max instead, but now with this change...;_;
oh god they changed Draven's passive to Hopeless Masquerade's popularity mechanic
Really? I've never seen a anyone actually die from Draven's bleed. Draven wins fights with raw damage anyway from his Q, his passive isn't that huge really.
In other news, why on earth are people picking Tryndalol so often?
Started picking up Leona, I can't believe how broken of a support she is and why I didn't play her before. So much CC I love it, if your ADC is even competent you're sure to get kills.
As soon as you hit level 3, it's a free kill. The enemy team decided to push all the way to my turret, and i had tristana as adc, the second I hit level 3 I E -> W->Q, exhaust, flash when quinn flashes, jump onto janna right after because her cd's are so low, and kill her too. Pretty much I ended the game with more money than everyone except for tristana, she went 23/4
Started picking up Leona, I can't believe how broken of a support she is and why I didn't play her before. So much CC I love it, if your ADC is even competent you're sure to get kills.
As soon as you hit level 3, it's a free kill. The enemy team decided to push all the way to my turret, and i had tristana as adc, the second I hit level 3 I E -> W->Q, exhaust, flash when quinn flashes, jump onto janna right after because her cd's are so low, and kill her too. Pretty much I ended the game with more money than everyone except for tristana, she went 23/4
She was free the first week I got here too, and oooohhhh man I felt the same. I've had thoughts of buying her back in PH but the minute I started playing I felt like I missed half my LoL life.
I usually use W->E->Q in my combo instead so W procs faster (AP Leona, anyone?)
What the hell is up with that Draven change? That's going to wreck him. His whole strength was based around the massive damage from chaining crit and/or spinning axes and stacking the bleed.
I've never seen a anyone actually die from Draven's bleed.
nvm guys, raikaria's anecdotal evidence is proof that draven's bleed needs no changes
Looks like the Tryndamere trains already run dry. AP Teemo just poops on him.
Xerath looks like hes picking up popularity.
So I've been getting back into playing Riven more recently, and doing a decent job of playing as her, but I feel I should ask about my build for her as far as items go, because I've theorycrafted an idea that's really been bugging me for a while. See, my idea was to build her with a Zephyr after the core items I usually build her with. (Hydra, BT, Boots of Lucidity, Black Cleaver) Here's the kind of thought train I had on the item:
25 Attack Damage - A small boost, but by this point I'm already doing ridiculous damage per skill/AA.
50% Attack Speed - This is what's really tearing me on the case. As any good Riven player, I stagger my attacks as I should, and the thought behind using Zephyr in the first place was kind of a "challenge mode" kind of idea, wherein the faster my AAs come out, the faster I have to play out my skills to match in order to get my passive attack bonus and thereby doing more damage per second if I successfully stagger my skills together. Thing is, I've never actually seen someone use attack speed items on Riven before, and I myself often find I never get to this point in a match whilst playing Riven, so I never figure out for myself if it's as good an idea as I think it is or a trainwreck waiting to happen.
10% Movement Speed - Mobility on Riven is goooooooddddd...
10% Cooldown Reduction - The other items I mentioned alongside Zephyr would give me a grand total of 35% CDR. And this is Riven we're talking about; A Riven without CDR is a sad Riven that can't keep up in fights.
Tenacity - I know Merc Treads has this too, and is probably the more cost-efficient item, but the CDR and extra movement speed I gain from Zephyr and Boots of Lucidity seems like a fair trade-off.
So any Riven players or just general League nuts know if this is going in the right direction, or is there a better setup to go for in the late game?
While I am curious as to how a Nidalee even managed to feed an Aatrox with Cougar form being faster and having Pounce, that last game confirmed my suspicions.
Fed Aatrox does nothing in teamfights.
NOTHING.
He just dies, goes into Blood Well, and then dies again. [Being on Varus may or may not have something to do with this, but we didn't exactly have the most C.C ever, an average amount... at best]
No more 6 second silence from making the most out of my lb sigil times. Awww yess. :(Well, yeah, you were playing her in a way different from what Riot intended.
Draven's new passive has a new name, after all, Wicked Blades didn't make sense for this new passive.
The name change alone makes this a buff.
Draven's new passive is called...
League of Draven
Anyone who drops Draven because of the passive change is clearly not a true Draven player with this new passive's name alone.
WELCOME TO THE LEAGUE OF DRAVEN (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PP8gNZRq1Nk)
Draven's new passive is called...hahahaha yesssss
League of Draven
i just manually realized that ezreal's w does almost nothing and yet he's still ridiculously powerful as a champion with 3 spells
I wouldn't call a 10% AS buff per target you hit nothing.
I wouldn't call a 40% AS buff on allies nothing when it really helps to take objectives.
It's not great, but it's still something. Also it's pretty decent burst at the first few levels.
Also it *does* have a 0.8 AP ratio, for those AP-Ezreals out there.
i knew you were going to try and post something before i even clicked to this tab to make that postHi, I'm an Ezreal player, and I almost never touch my W. Seriously, I sometimes consider leaving its first level for when I hit level 8, it's so useless.
go watch any pro ezreal play a game and count how many times they ACTUALLY use their w--meaning more than to secure a tower they already have slightly faster. go talk to some ezreal players about their use of the skill. seriously. go do it.
Draven's new passive has a new name, after all, Wicked Blades didn't make sense for this new passive.Oooooh shit
The name change alone makes this a buff.
Draven's new passive is called...
League of Draven
Anyone who drops Draven because of the passive change is clearly not a true Draven player with this new passive's name alone.
i knew you were going to try and post something before i even clicked to this tab to make that post
go watch any pro ezreal play a game and count how many times they ACTUALLY use their w--meaning more than to secure a tower they already have slightly faster. go talk to some ezreal players about their use of the skill. seriously. go do it.
Did I ever say it was a good skill?
No.
But it's better than Skarner's Fracture, which most people outright ignore until they HAVE to level it, and even then never use the skill because mana. At least Essensse Flux has uses [And if you think helping in taking objectives isn't a use, watch any high level game and see how the game is about objectives]. At least you'll use Flux once or twice in a game at least.
Also if you have other auto-attackers it's not much effort to W them in a teamfight and give them up to 40% AS.
Don't get me wrong. It's not good. But it's not useless either, nor is it the worst skill in the game [That's Skarner's Fracture, or Half of Sion's kit depending on his build]
And as I said before, it still exists for AP Ezreal.
actually most pro players forget to use it when grabbing objectives because it's that useless
my s-tier ezreal friend complains about it all the time
Nether of which you need in the jungle thanks to Exoskeleton and Skarner's mana issues.You are aware he built an early AAS, which due to the spamability of his q can be filled very quickly, right?
You are aware he built an early AAS, which due to the spamability of his q can be filled very quickly, right?
(I only hopped on the stream for a few minutes, my internet was too bad to watch it properly)
I suppose you would build either a frozen fist or a lichbane later, hm? Well, lichbane is better for more mobility and high damage, considering skarner Q already slows, but the mana cdr and durability (which you need if you want to use your autos more than once or twice a fight to begin with)... idk...
You are aware he built an early AAS, which due to the spamability of his q can be filled very quickly, right?
Hilarious thing, I told my brother I saw someone playing AP Lane Skarner on a stream. He then turns around and says he does it already. I guess there is someone else who plays AP Top Skarner.It's been a thing for quite some time, but almost no-one does it.
You are aware I'm talking about Jungle Skarner's mana issues making E really bad and far inferior to W, not lane Skarner, right?
And you don't rush AAS on Jungle Skarner.
Hilarious thing, I told my brother I saw someone playing AP Lane Skarner on a stream. He then turns around and says he does it already. I guess there is someone else who plays AP Top Skarner.
It's been a thing for quite some time, but almost no-one does it.I did not know this. I feel as though it's a new thing or a first as no one does this and I have -never- seen it.
triforce, glacial shroud, frozen heart.I don't get any of those or even think of them as potential items for use on AP Skarner. '-'
You are aware he built an early AAS, which due to the spamability of his q can be filled very quickly, right?
lichbaneAP skarner has no major mana issues. It comes up, but I quell it with 3 points in the Utility tree only. I don't even take mana regen runes.
skarner stacks tear the fastest because he misses his kind
skarner stacks tear the fastest because he misses his kind
What about the equally fast Pony?
skarner stacks tear the fastest because he misses his kindoh my god Ryuu :qq:
do they not have humor in europe
Yes they do.no they really don't it seems
Hecarim clearly stacks tear just as fast because Suffering is Magic, and Mana is Magic, and Q spam is causing Suffering.
no they really don't it seems
no they really don't it seems
Kennen nerfed, crie tiem. (http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/24662-unofficial-pbe-patch-notes-for-6-17-2013)
Kennen nerfed, crie tiem. (http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/24662-unofficial-pbe-patch-notes-for-6-17-2013)WHY RIOT
Kennen nerf? Like why.
Tumble is cast in the direction Vayne is facing, not my mouse >_>
And Sivir is forgotten again... (http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/24673-master-yi-visual-upgrade-and-kit-rework)
On the other hand, sounds like they're killing AP Yi.
On the other hand, sounds like they're killing AP Yi.
Good, fuck that build.Seconded. I hate Yi either way, but AP Yi can go die in a fire.
so im watching boxbox and riven can jump over walls with her Q WHATI'm guessing it's only "thin" walls (no riven expert, or riot employee, but that might be correct). Like the ones by the river brush, if not sounds seriously glitchy
I'm guessing it's only "thin" walls (no riven expert, or riot employee, but that might be correct). Like the ones by the river brush, if not sounds seriously glitchyhe hopped over a jungle wall with the third q jump
he hopped over a jungle wall with the third q jump
Man, so I've hit a stonewall. I just hit level 30, and suddenly I seem to have lost the ability to win games. playing on again-off again over the past week or so, I've only won one game yesterday. It's kind of discouraging.Prior to 30 it matches mostly by your level, at 30 you have to deal with your Elo more.
Man, so I've hit a stonewall. I just hit level 30, and suddenly I seem to have lost the ability to win games. playing on again-off again over the past week or so, I've only won one game yesterday. It's kind of discouraging.This it normal, it happened to me when I hit 30 a few months back. All of a sudden the other team was warding whoa you'd think they're only sold in my client's shop with how my games went previously :o
(http://i.imgur.com/HNcweid.png)my god that's terrifying if you're even slightly competent at catching axes and/or csing
my body was not ready for this
Damnit Riot when will you stop nerfing the pony? You know his winrate is because people don't look at the minimap and he just runs up to them, right? Like Rammus, for that matter, who currently has the highest ranked winrate [55%]. There's a reason he's not ever played in competitive play, because they actually look at their wards, and place them further out to give time to react to Hecarim ganks. Also counterjunglers make him cry.
I mean, you nerf him and nerf him and his winrate stays static, meaning you're missing the point altogether... [A winrate of ~51% in ranked isn't even that bad...]
I swear, every time a jungler can actually scale hard enough to carry a game they get slapped about like mad, because jungle carries are not supposed to exist, despite Riot's rhetoric.
It's not even a small mana nerf either. 45 mana at max rank compared to 25 is almost DOUBLE.
I think we should stop saying 'Better nerf Irelia' and start saying 'Better nerf Hecarim'.
(so yeah we need to play enough rankeds within the next 7 days to get sorted into a division, else we lose the right to our name :v )
you only lose it if someone else claims it iircWHY MUST YOU UNDERCUT MY DRAMATIC SPEECH?
man i haven't been playing for weeks and i can still pull out a million reasons to nerf hecarim that aren't directly related to winrate
I can also think of just as many counterarguments, such as his awful dueling, his horrible earlygame, his average clear speeds early, his weak pre-6 ganking [No hard c.c aside from a small knockback, no soft C.C at all], ESPECIALLY on lanes that are not over-extended, or have escapes, his awful outcome if he gets shut down [He's completely useless without gold] and mana issues, which are going to get even worse.
Likewise, his mobility, his ult, and his lategame power are the flip side of the coin.
You know why?
Because he is a carry.
Also while you can think of a million reasons, they are not necessarily correct ones.
I can think of a million reasons to nerf Teemo. It dosen't mean we should actually nerf Teemo.
This weekend is bad for MJP and I, well Friday/Saturday at least are out, but perhaps a round tonight (EST) will work?Well, I need to get up before 5 in the morning, meaning I plan to head to bed in less than 2 hours. Maybe the rest of you can manage to gather for a few matches though.
only CLG will lose to the worst team and then beat the best team
only clg man
Ultimately we came to the conclusion that removing the ping display on champion load screens would lead to a healthier overall community, so we acted on it.
Anywho so perhaps TEAM SURRENDER BUTTON OP in about an hour or so? MJP will be home probably 8-8:30pm EST and will have time for at least one game, I'm around as well from here out.Hmmmm. I might be able to come, although that's kind of close to my dinner time. Also it depends on how fast my other ranked team finishes.
I don't agree.
(http://i.imgur.com/HNcweid.png)ALRIGHT, so here comes Nate Varner's advice on "How to beat new-passive Draven!" Because we all know my advice is a necessary type of advice.
my body was not ready for this
Short notice but we have some downtime, MJP and I have time for one game but we gotta head out 7:15pm EST the latest (so 1hr 45min from this post)
TEAM SURRENDER BUTTON OP, ASSEMBLE (?)
theshim (7:36): welp
theshim (7:36): I just played another asshole jungle nunu game
theshim (7:36): the enemy team got I think three buffs
theshim (7:36): no towers
theshim (7:36): no dragons (we got two)
theshim (7:36): no barons (I soloed it twice)
theshim (7:36): ...
theshim (7:36): guys nunu is stupid
To the rumble players out there, how do you play against nasus?
To the rumble players out there, how do you play against nasus?What seems to be the problem.
What seems to be the problem.
Nasus has no gap close and relies on last hitting, should be stupidly safe for you. You are one of his worst nightmares.
As normal poke with E and use Q as a threat to stop him engaging you.
If you can stop him stacking siphoning strike you cripple him.
actually you just want to try and control the lane and zone draven from creep so he can't cs OR land spinning axes safelyI'm sorry, good sir, but it appears you have taken my most recent post seriously. :V
if you push him to turret, even if he misses cs, he still can land spinning axes and stack his passive making the lost cs somewhat less effective.
Trying to practice ADC. Bots pose no challenge, but against humans I getWell the way I play adc is having my support pick someone initiation-heavy then just lounge around farming ignoring everything until the supp lands a good cc then RAEPIN TIEM. But then again that might be because I main Kog'Maw, who is generally weak early game and should have no business sticking face where people can punch it, soooo.baited and outsmartedstomped. What do? :ohdear:
Well the way I play adc is having my support pick someone initiation-heavy then just lounge around farming ignoring everything until the supp lands a good cc then RAEPIN TIEM. But then again that might be because I main Kog'Maw, who is generally weak early game and should have no business sticking face where people can punch it, soooo.Well the adc I am trying to learn is kog'maw because I think he is fun, and he is played very little so he is pretty much always open for pick. Thing is, I usually end up fairly zoned so I can cs only while my W is up. Either that or I die. I also need to get better at last-hitting, but I am aware that that is nothing but practice.
Well of course that gets wrecked quickly if they manage to somehow zone out my support, soooo :V
Trying to practice ADC. Bots pose no challenge, but against humans I getbaited and outsmartedstomped. What do? :ohdear:
remember guys as adcalso everyone loses to draven right now cause he does it alll
rule number 1: farm
rule 2: stay alive no matter what
rule 3: hard carry BV
also everyone loses to draven right now cause he does it alllOn a similar note, Draven/Soraka lane wat do???
On a similar note, Draven/Soraka lane wat do???Soraka barely has any damage. Therefore just focus, focus, focuuuus the hell out of Draven in lane. Ignore Soraka completely until Draven is either dead, recalled or behind turret, since Soraka has completely no cc except silence (lol silence the adc) and no speed boosts Draven would have to either initiate himself, wait for ganks, or get Soraka to bait. If you negate the latter then it's a lot harder for Draven to start a bot fight in his favor w/o the jungler. So it's important to ward bush and if the jungler is camping bot tell your jungler to either come shoo him away or counterjungle. But if enemy jungler is Nocturne then welp do what you can before he hits 6 :V And since Soraka is there there isn't much point in poking, so either poke Sorakaface (but don't jump her) or save yer mana.
Ran into it in blind pick so that was for naught, but let's say I can see it coming and pick around it as either adc/support.
On a similar note, Draven/Soraka lane wat do???
On a similar note, Draven/Soraka lane wat do???
Ran into it in blind pick so that was for naught, but let's say I can see it coming and pick around it as either adc/support.
Pick Caitlyn [Or Ashe but Cait is better]/Janna [Or Nami or Lulu]No, whole point of Soraka is to keep the adc alive to farm as much as possible. If you stay away from them you're just making it easy. And Astral Blessing doesn't necessarily make you lose, unlike most supports Soraka has crap for damage, which makes up for you hurting Draven less. In fact, Cait and Lulu have a bunch of poke AND disengage between them, plus polymorph for initiation, so if the support is Soraka and you're not falling behind in farm (if you're Cait and you are you deserve a slap) then you should be able to decide when, where and how long to fight at will barring the enemy jungler's interference.
You basically want to not fight ever, and their range + Disnegage does that. No point fighting a Draven with Astral Blessing, you WILL lose.
> Bronze I person waltz in, demanded mid, citing good Annie skillz
> Movespeed runes masteries everything
> Builds boots of mobility, zhonya's and liandry's, zhonya's active never heard of again
> Dives to stun people then get instaraped
Why.
> Bronze I person waltz in, demanded mid, citing good Annie skillzzhonya's is a situational item, no void staff or deathcap?
> Movespeed runes masteries everything
> Builds boots of mobility, zhonya's and liandry's, zhonya's active never heard of again
> Dives to stun people then get instaraped
Why.
i almost never build deathcap anymore. on like anyoneThat's because the current meta is against AP burst casters.
Eyem. Teach me Rumble.http://i.imgur.com/EYgGKoo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/EYgGKoo.jpgMight need to mention build+ skill order too.
Might need to mention build+ skill order too.
1. Start with E
2. Max Q first (at 9)
3. take W at 4
4. which skill you max second is situational, W gives more sustain+gap close, E gives more CC+ damage
items:
1 normally start cloth and 5, see sheet.
2 aim for seekers armguard + sorcs+ haunting guise mid game.
3 Void staff or abyssal if you had to buy mercs
4 buy appropriate tanky AP items (rylai's, hourglass and/or abyssal), spellvamp if you need sustain, rather than to survive burst.
5 finish liandry's
6. buy a rylai's anyway (CC flamespitter OP)
7. finish with deathcap, warmogs or GA.
Tl;dr spellpen is your friend, rush it. Try to snowball into tanky items.
New Master Yi voice...WHAT
NO THEY GOT RID OF YOUR SKILLS ARE INFERIOR HOW COULD THEY DO THIS
look this is pretty much all that needs to be said about yiikr
ever
(http://i.imgur.com/TVJ6BMk.jpg)
wait whatAlready knew. Makes sense, the skin was delayed, it was probobly planned to be the April Fools Skin.
also oh shit Spirit Udyr has an ultimate SECRET URF STANCEit's summoned with /joke
Finally finished my placements going 5-5 putting me in..... Silver V? lolwat I didn't think that was mathematically possible but :toot: I can't get demoted! B
all sorts of ranked placement shenanigansThat actually makes a LOT of sense. I won my first two placements, lost two, then I don't remember what but earlier this week I was 5-3. This also explains why I had multiple games with people who were already ranked all flavors of Silver, I figured I was just playing at dumb o'clock and matchmaker couldn't find other unranked folk to throw me with/against or duo queue shenanigans
That said, maybe my stint of playing DotA would have increased my reactions, lane control, and most importantly REMEMBERING TO USE MY FREAKING ACTIVE ITEMS.
Top Urgot is apparently the perfect guy for standing there in the middle of the enemy team nerfing all of them with his passive while finishing off running carries with his awesome homing missiles
Like seriously I can't recall any other tank that both is ranged and can get away with building some damage
And I'm sure none gets a ranged homing spammable attack to proc Muramana with :V
The problem with Urgot top is... why not Jayce? [Also Jayce can build tanky and his AA's are homing Muramana procs :V]Uh.
That and Urgot pushes pretty hard, his range is awful, and he can't get out of ganks.
I tried Urgot top a while ago. I'd say it's situational, against toplaners with low mobility and are weak early [Vladimir, Irelia, Malphite maybe, to a lesser extent Jax]
Note none of these are that common atm.
That final game we might have stood a chance of winning, but for some stupid reason I got hit with ping that was at least 3 times more than I was used to (180-200+ with random lag spikes) the entire game. I don't know how some of you overseas guys play when on foreign servers, I was a complete mess with skill buttons/items going off late and moving to click never working quite as I'd want and I was flailing around and dying all the time and and :ohdear:We're used to the ~200 ping (that's still within normal reaction times, so you can still make plays okay, but will die more easily to solid ganks). You have to play over cautiously and ideally be an initiator in teamfights. ADC would be impossible, but a burst caster or someone like malphite is still playable.
gud teamfight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYqXkTrDuUU).<insertobligatorypokemonforceswappingjokehere>
gud teamfight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYqXkTrDuUU).On a similar note we are recreating this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9XZQttjc-g) in the next 5man kthx
ONE TWO THREE BOAAAAAAAARWait wait wait
I still don't know what I am doing in the jangle half the time hahaha but at least their Nunu wasn't the asshole "gonna solo baron and take all your buffs" Nunu I was hearing about.
On a similar note we are recreating this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9XZQttjc-g) in the next 5man kthx
Uh.
Jayce's kit doesn't have anything that increases his tankiness
Bonus Armor / Magic Resist: 5 / 15 / 25 / 35
That's when in Hammer stance, and when someone is punching you in the face, Hammer is better than Cannon because resists, Static Feild [Especially early], and the fact you have Thundering Blow to escape and To the Skies! to slow to ensure a kill.
Jayce only builds glass cannon when midlane usually. Toplane Jayces will usually not be pure damage, except maybe on a dedicated poke comp.
hammer is better than cannon
cannon is better than hammer
these are both true statements in literally every game jayce exists in because decision making and situations
hammer is better than cannon:*
cannon is better than hammer
these are both true statements in literally every game jayce exists in because decision making and situations
also this is a drnk post and shim is relaly cool
Hmm...
Renekton should be a decent jungler, no? Can clear quite well and reasonably sustained, and for ganks he has a gap-closer, cc and burst. Any reason not to do it (aside from there being a few junglers who are really really strong right now)?
So yeah tl;dr: what do when the opponent pushes like crazy and my teammates are losing hardcoreRequest a gank from your jungler, even a feeding jungler should break a total stalemate.
Weirdest thing is, these crazy things work when I'm not botlane too. He played ZAC support a lot last week, and won most of his games ._.Ya sure he wasn't playing some kind of backwater mmr when you weren't there? :V
Ya sure he wasn't playing some kind of backwater mmr when you weren't there? :V
I mostly lose b/c I'm stuck as support all the time and when I do get something else bot lane feeds.This can be remedied by duo-queueueueing with a support main.
I've heard Garen and Teemo are freeelo if you know what you're doing, also Proxy Singed and Proxy Tryndamere.
Aside from that, can't give you much advice.
i was about to type a huge post about why wriggles is shit but then i looked and saw that the buff came out already and wasn't on the next patch
oooooooops
though nunu should pretty much always use spectral wraith(if he even buys a machete). a max rank consume will do more damage overall than wriggles procs ever will
my name's raikaria and i know the game more than people who literally make their living playing it
yeah okay
I guess that's ryuu's point here, Wriggle's might be best for the Overall Jungler Nunu, but Spectral Wraith is just better if you're going to capitalize on what he does best right now: Counterjungling.
in the world of league(and actually basically ever game ever, which is why so many wow classes are garbage this expansion), consistent and controllable variables(consume, smite) will ALWAYS BE BETTER than uncontrollable variables(wriggles procs)...I guess you somehow managed to forget that madreds/wriggles is a fixed value already?
...I guess you somehow managed to forget that madreds/wriggles is a fixed value already?
And if having an AS steroid is not AD scaling, then I guess anyone who doesn't build Trist AP is a Troll.
(Disclaimer: I have no idea how to properly play jungle Nunu)
...I guess you somehow managed to forget that madreds/wriggles is a fixed value already?
And if having an AS steroid is not AD scaling, then I guess anyone who doesn't build Trist AP is a Troll.
(Disclaimer: I have no idea how to properly play jungle Nunu)
also having an as steroid is not ad scaling. it's an as steroid. ad scaling is making your abilities scale with ad....
are you going to build ad on someone with no ad scaling or are you going to build ap and get scaling spellvamp and high scaling damage?Brb rushing spectral wraith on tristana.
Plus Nunu only has a total of a 1.0 offensive AP scaling anyway, discounting AZ because it's THE MOST UNRELIABLE SKILL IN THE ENTIRE GAME.it sounds like you're trying to only use absolute zero for a full charge, which is basically the wrongest way to use it most of the time
...Brb rushing spectral wraith on tristana.
certain characters(irelia, yi, etc.) are just like "oh slows whatever". without good threat, you are wasting one of nunu's best abilities
(additionally, you can't just discount a part of a characters kit to make yourself look more right)
So Runaan's apparently procs Lux's passive.why you starting in lane, you can solo blue at lvl1. (you might want AS masteries)
AD Jungle Lux, lane for the first 3 levels, rush Manamune/Runaan's, y/n?
Irelia is effected by AZ just as much as any other character. It's an area slow, therefor her passive does nothing to mitigate it.
Then stop discounting Nunu's 50% AS steroid, and the fact he can cast spells for free after 5 autos.
And an AS steroid is AD scaling. An AS boost is stronger based on how much AD you have, just like an ability with a 'X.Y AD ratio'. It also svcales with Crit, Lifesteal, and On-Hit effects.
Also it's funny you can accuse me of using AZ only for full channel damage when I don't play Nunu with heavy AP, so AZ becomes a mainly utility spell [Although it still has high base damage]
Uh, except if you max Consume first like Ryu suggests, you have no impact until Lv 9 when it comes to ganking. Your C.C is weak, your movement is low, and your damage is non-existant. It's like Warwick-level ganks.
And Nunu chases well with an Ice/Blast+Boil centric build. Huge AS boost, red buff, MS boost and Ice Blast? You ain't walking away. Consume's heal is nice... but you could just walk away instead.
I can see SotSW in some situations. I do not see it as an outright better item, and if you want stronger ganks while still being a thorn to enemy junglers, a Wriggles build with Blood Boil is still great at counterjungleing.
I ain't saying Wriggles is better all the time in every situation ever, I'm saying it's better than Consume and just being a jerk when you actually want to do more than just steal stuff all the time. You're less predictable.
So, any tips for playing as Yi in the Twisted Treeline?AD Yi is great at splitpushing in TT, but if you do that then you wouldn't be able to help much in teamfights. And too many people build tanky/bruiser in TT for AP Yi to kill anyone easily. I dunno.
I'm guessing you mean 'take the time to die so you can upgrade your shit and not be useless twenty minutes in'?
if you play aram, please kill yourselfI guess I noticed something last week. When playing mostly ARAMs for some time, rather than using it as the fun mode to cool off from regular games (or, more explicitly, ranked), I began to start caring about what my team did more than I should. As in, getting annoyed at the one guy rolling away our only tank at the last moment, or the Kog'maw who decides to go AP when the rest of the team already is AP, despite the rest of the team begging him not to. Not to mention when they make really bad playing mistakes.
no seriously i just lost because a 12/2 ashe taking all the kills and never dying
"Can't pick diana, Lux hardcounters Diana :/"
Lux hardcounters diana because of ridiculous range and poke. And my QR is nullified by her binding. Everything she has outranges my Q and my R and her Shield stops a good portion of my burst.
It's not a hard counter, however. If Diana evades any of Lux's skills, Lux is outright dead.
Maybe I should actually try 5v5.Tanky/bruiser is pretty much the TT meta nowadays :V (unless you're Cassiopeia)
I seem be doing much worse nowadays, as Yi. People be learning how to become more tankish in the Treeline.
Time for me how to learn how to fight in the Evil Forest.
:colonveeplusalpha:
See, its shit like this that makes me more than happy to admit that I'm a pretty bad enough player as it is and don't really venture outside of botfights. I occasionally hop into normal pick when I have enough friends on but otherwise am content to just practice knowing when I can all-in and when I can bait in co-op games.
Even playing ARAM is enough to make my blood pressure spike to unhealthy levels, so I tend not to play that unless I have friends on as well.
That said, staying in bots until you're 30 is not the best of ideas, you're not gonna learn anything by fighting against deficient AI :derp:This cannot be expressed enough. I can completely understand not having the confidence to go into PvP matches because you're too afraid of skill difference and the resulting verbal abuse your teammates will likely give, but this game is inevitably a PvP game. The AI of bots is severely different from that of the habits and movements that real-life players make, so if you do nothing but play bot games and then switch over to PvP only after reaching even level 20, you're gonna feel some severe whiplash and have to completely revise your game. Trust me, I learned the hard way. Once you get the basics of last-hitting and whatnot down, I highly recommend getting into PvP matches.
Some people might just not feel confident enough to go Normals. I know I didn't feel confident enough to go Ranked before having over 50 games with Diana and Vayne, watching a fuckload of videos about League Theory, being able to CS and Orbwalk consistently, reading to every single of Ryuu's posts (And Eyem's, too) in every possible detail and having four complete rune pages, as well as having at least one champion I could consistently do something with in every role.to be completely honest I play ranked and was silver last season and I don't know how to orbwalk and my CS'ing is incredibly inconsistent. But I completely know how you feel about the confidence thing; I just don't care enough 8D
That said, staying in bots until you're 30 is not the best of ideas, you're not gonna learn anything by fighting against deficient AI :derp:
Does anyone here play on the EUW servers? I've been getting frustrated with the solo queue, and I would like some buddies to help me with the grind to 30.
I'm EUW, and my ING is the same as here.
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3641286
Lucian, the Purifier. Passive gives him a doublestrike after every ability (hopefully this has a cd or his trades are going to be nuts), Q and W sound like skillshots, E is a slow-purging dash that refreshes on kill/assist during his ult, and R is a channeled barrage onto whatever it hits first that you can dash during with E.Threshis the nemesis
He's an ADC. He'll probably get by with no CC depending on his stats, especially since it sounds like he'll be hella mobile.
He's an ADC. He'll probably get by with no CC depending on his stats, especially since it sounds like he'll be hella mobile.Which is why I said competitive play. The only other ADC with no CC who sees play is Ezreal, and it doesn't look like his dash alone will compare to Ezreal's not only mobility but safe poke and damage. With his passive, for instance, and the marks applied by his W, Lucian's going to want to be in the mix shooting people, and having no CC to rely on will make him forced to keep the dash as an escape.
Which is why I said competitive play. The only other ADC with no CC who sees play is Ezreal, and it doesn't look like his dash alone will compare to Ezreal's not only mobility but safe poke and damage. With his passive, for instance, and the marks applied by his W, Lucian's going to want to be in the mix shooting people, and having no CC to rely on will make him forced to keep the dash as an escape.
All this said, let's see the numbers and ranges before we get too far ahead.
His trading is going to be absurd and he'll probably be a great lane bully but he'll also probably see little to no competitive play with his complete lack of CC.
but most adc cc is totally ignorable anyway, unless it's like vayne/draven's e or an ultimate ability. smokescreen too.Most ADC CC is used to peel for themselves in teamfights. Without it, he's going to be pretty vulnerable. His dash is nice and removing slows is sweet but against a team with hard CC he's a very risky pick.
imo he has a decent shot of being a competitive pick simply because no other adc has a free soft-cleanse. it all depends on his stats though
OH FUCK THERE WAS A WHOLE NEW PAGE OF POSTS I MISSED
Most ADC CC is used to peel for themselves in teamfights. Without it, he's going to be pretty vulnerable. His dash is nice and removing slows is sweet but against a team with hard CC he's a very risky pick.
Again, we need to see numbers before I really can judge, all this is speculative.
That said, staying in bots until you're 30 is not the best of ideas, you're not gonna learn anything by fighting against deficient AI :derp:
Fml now everyone is going to buy Oracles, and I'm going to be very sad because I main Akali... There's simply not enough risk/reward with it, which sucks.
This damage reduction is less effective against turrets.
Alpha Strike is now physical, can 'crit' (I'm assuming this is like Garen spin) and now always gets the bonus minion/neutral damage. Cooldown lowerable with basic attacks.oh, god, no
Wuju Style's now a % increase, activating it gives Yi ~*~true damage~*~, you still lose the passive while on cooldown.
Highlander now passively gives the cooldown reduction on kill/assist, sounds like it may ignore roots now, killing/assisting while active extends the duration.
Fml now everyone is going to buy Oracles, and I'm going to be very sad because I main Akali... There's simply not enough risk/reward with it, which sucks.
Fighting for vision is one of the most tedious things in this game.,
Remember them baron dances duringworld champ?3rd place playoffs? I sure do.
But yeah, it seems 4.0 [Wait it's not S4. Riot your lazy patch naming backfired...] will be addressing 'MR is boring'.
3.10 derp derp derp
3.10 = 3.1, that's how decimals work....do you seriously think the number behind the dot is a decimal? Have you played another game with lots of updates? Idunno, Warcraft III, any mmorpg maybe? :V
3.1 is before 3.9 in the number line.
The hilarious thing is we went 3.01, 3.02, 3.03, 3.04, 3.5. Apparently ZAC and Karma were big enough updates to warrent a jump of 0.46 in update rank.
3.10 = 3.1, that's how decimals work.
3.1 is before 3.9 in the number line.
The hilarious thing is we went 3.01, 3.02, 3.03, 3.04, 3.5. Apparently ZAC and Karma were big enough updates to warrent a jump of 0.46 in update rank.
Also Hexdrinker is getting another upgrade that's clearly for carries. Why not kick mages some more? To boot it gives Tenacity too.
The days of AP's assassinating ADC's in one combo like they are supposed to be able to do if they dive that deep is over, since pretty much every ADC is gonna build this I think.
I dunno about you but Teemo is an exception. If you're at least somewhat fed and can catch yourselves a Teemo he can explode from quite a few APC's burst :V
teemo is not an ad carry and also i said of equal strength ;pWell adcs barely build any tankiness at all so how well they're doing is not really relevant to whether one combo can kill em or not :V
of course if you're a high burst ap carry and you find an underfed squishy you are going to 100-0 them
Well adcs barely build any tankiness at all so how well they're doing is not really relevant to whether one combo can kill em or not :V
And Teemo does get an adc build sometimes. And a lot of his AP builds play like an adc too.
no class should ever be able to totally kill another class in a single combo. that is terrible for the game and is incredibly shitty gameplay. additionally, a grand majority of ap carries have not been able to one-shot an ad carry of equal strength since like s1 so i have no idea why you're so stuck in the past.
I'm sorry Ryuu but you seem to forget there is an entire archtype devoted to bursting down squishies. In fact, there are two; Burst casters and Assassins.
Let's see all the AP's that can pretty easily burst down an ADC 100-0 if allowed to do so:
Ahri
Akali
Annie
Brand
Cassio
Cho
Diana
Evelynn
Fizz
Gragas
Kassadin
Katarina
Kennen
LeBlanc
Lissandra
Lux
Malzahar
Mordekaiser
Orianna
Ryze
Syndra
Veigar
Viktor
Xerath
Ziggs
Zyra
That's 26 AP champions who can easily burst down a squishy ADC, and that's only 100-0, not 'almost 100-0 but crippled' like Aniva, Malphite and Galio. I'm also assumeing they are not stupidly fed [A stupidly fed TF can 100-0 within a couple of seconds, but he won't usually, same with Vladimir.]
You're playing the wrong genre. Burst is a staple of the genre, and ADC's in particular make the trade-off of vulnerability to burst for huge sustained DPS, and the abilty to recover from any non-fatal damage pretty easily with lifesteal. The counter to ADC's IS BURST. You'll find this in DotA. You'll find it in HoN. You'll find it in all MoBA's.
If you think that bad positioning from the DPS being punished with death, and successfully getting to the ADC through 4 other people and hitting your skillshots as a squishy burst mage being rewarded with killing the ADC is 'incredibly shitty gameplay' you're playing the wrong genre. That or you clearly have no clue what you are going on about.
Either that or you're incredibly biased towards ADC's and think they should be as godly as they were in S2. Because without burst, what is there to stop their 700+ crits and ~18% lifesteal from those 700+ crits as they kite everything else to death? The answer? Not a lot, because everything other than burst loses to an ADC in a brawl.
If you think burst promotes ' incredibly shitty gameplay' stop playing. Seriously. It's a team game. The burst is a threat to your carry, who is your DPS. In turn, your supports and tanks prevent said burst killing your carry, so your carry can DPS, while attempting to get your burst to the enemy ADC. That's generally how teamfights, and the genre, works.
What does promote incredibly bad gameplay is champions who are nothing but burst, and are binary about it.
QWER
Did I kill target?
Yes: YAY
No: I'm screwed
Instead of a champion who can do other things than single-target burst. Even Veigar has Event Horizon. Even Leblanc has Ethereal Chains and a Silence. That type of burst, a character who does nothing but, IS bad, but generally doesn't exist. Most AP's have some form of utility, unless they are a dedicated assassin, but honestly, champions like Katarina are pretty toxic for a reason. [If they're good they stomp everything, if they're not they are worthless]
You'll find this in DotA.Only in a very few cases. And the heroes that are capable of bursting another hero down 100 to 0 usually have huge drawbacks to compensate for this.
You'll find it in HoN.Why you would ever want to judge anything with HoN as a reference is beyond me.
Diana
if this is how you think teamfights work, this explains why you can't carry yourself out of gold v
the funny thing about this post is that the greatest threat to an ad carry isn't the enemy ap carry, but the enemy bruiser. bruisers are loaded with tools to fight carries and are exceptionally good at it, being tanky enough to take the hits but having enough damage to kill a squishy.
that is bad gameplay in the sense that it is binary and boring. i already outlined above what i meant about bad gameplay.
i feel like you got really off track because i have no idea how this is relevant to "100-0 burst is bad for the game". also you listed the two champions who actually literally CAN 100-0 people, and then noted their additional cc--something that a 100-0 champion should never have access to. katarina--also listed--is a high damage caster and has no inherent cc because her damage is so high, yet the two 100-0 champions(and two of the most hated people to see in mid) have access to cc. riot pls
@ Dormio - I was also considering Lion, who can burst squishies for most of the game with Spike->Finger.Lion? Not really unless you roll him solo mid for the EXP advantage.
There are also characters like Lich who can quickly nuke squishies.Lich? Pffffthahaha good one.
I'm talking about AP characters with the abilty to 100-0 an ADC, a very squishy role, within a couple of seconds. Remember the following items exist as well, and can aid burst:
DFG
Lichbane
Remember Ignite also exists
Oh excuse me, I did that a couple of weeks ago. I was just Gold 4. And I wasn't under the impression that the top 10% of players who even play ranked is a bad thing. Using Gold V as an insult against me is nothing.
Until they hit 5~6 items. Then they usually start critting for 700+, lifestealing too fast, and that's before you count shots before the bruiser gets in range. Unless it's someone like Jax, who is a carry in his own regard. At that point, the burst is the only real threat, because DPS means nothing when you don't live long enough to use it.
Here we agree. Which is why I hate Katarina. That IS Katarina's whole gameplay.
Yes, they can 100-0 people.
However, in the case that they cannot, they are not dead weight. They have things besides damage. Being nothing but damage, like Katarina, is bad. Having burst damage but also a plan B so it's not 4v5 if you're behind? That's good.
if a character can 100-0 the highest sustained damage of the enemy team when they are of equal strength, then the best strategy becomes to wait for that person's flash(rushing distortion boots would quickly become popular) to be up, then engage a fight and have them flash onto the enemy carry(rendering their positioning irrelevant) and instantly kill them. carry players would get frustrated by this and eventually just start split pushing. instead, rendering all teamfights to be 4v4s. of course, you can't just let someone split push so mobile champions become popular, rendering a large portion of the champion pool totally useless. the end result of this would be matches that are 100% splitpushing, because of the need to have an ad carry to take down turrets, there would be no point in fighting with an ad carry on your team because the enemy ap carry would just destroy them.
carry players would get frustrated by this and eventually just start split pushing. instead, rendering all teamfights to be 4v4s. of course, you can't just let someone split push so mobile champions become popular, rendering a large portion of the champion pool totally useless. the end result of this would be matches that are 100% splitpushing, because of the need to have an ad carry to take down turrets, there would be no point in fighting with an ad carry on your team because the enemy ap carry would just destroy them.
straight up you don't belong in gold imo. i feel like you got lucky and hit gold v, but considering your struggle to hit gold iv and then your subsequent dive back into gold v, you likely don't belong there.
additionally, you're in euw. the european servers are heavily 5s biased, while na servers are heavily solo queue biased. your better players tend to play in 5s games where as na better players(or rather all our players) tend towards solo queue.
so basically what i'm getting at is that it's very possible that your solo queue is easier than na solo queue. just saying.
Starting your argument with ad hominem is a really fucking good way to get your point across. You should keep doing it, people will respect you and your opinions a lot.
this contributes a lot to the discussion, 10/10 post would read again over and over, endlessly
you need to be fed by acquiring gold through champion kills that don't involve 100-0ing people beforehand because you can't do it before that item point
... I actually find the back and forth enlightening, because it's two different points of view about the same game and seeing which kind of counterpoints hold up and which ones don't :ohdear:
Suddenly, CS doesn't exist :derp: Unless you've been denied to the point of like 100 cs at 30 minutes with no kills while your team has taken no objectives at all, you're going to get items eventually. Enemy ADC will too, but from what I've seen unless there's a suppression/Morde around they tend to skimp on the defense until the 4th item at earliest or until you manage to delete them from the map for the 3rd time.
Also this happened (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYznj2DwuoY). I suppose you could argue that you aren't getting that much cs in soloQ games, but there's also more murder gold floating around so it'd kinda balance out.
i hit silver 4 yay i think a lot more stuff has clicked but lol i don't even play this game now i went back to WoW ;_;
Suddenly, CS doesn't exist :derp: Unless you've been denied to the point of like 100 cs at 30 minutes with no kills while your team has taken no objectives at all, you're going to get items eventually. Enemy ADC will too, but from what I've seen unless there's a suppression/Morde around they tend to skimp on the defense until the 4th item at earliest or until you manage to delete them from the map for the 3rd time.
Also this happened (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYznj2DwuoY). I suppose you could argue that you aren't getting that much cs in soloQ games, but there's also more murder gold floating around so it'd kinda balance out.
slapfights aside, Xypherous actually made the point about having to keep burst weak earlier (http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=39651484#39651484)
Just saying:
1: Except ADC v AP mid isn't equal strength for most of the game. AP mids will usually have 2~3 levels on the ADC due to getting solo EXP. This means the ADC will have less HP, and their barrier will be weaker, while the AP will have stronger skills and a stronger Ignite. And it's usually a given that AP burst characters will be building big ticket AP items to increase their burst. I thought that would have to go without saying. If you didn't notice, the only two champions I did math for where I assumed Lichbane was a given were Fizz and Ziggs, both of whom do build Lichbane. ADC's usually ignore MR either until their 4th/5th item, or altogether.
Assuming equal strength between an ADC and an AP Mid is just wrong, because their strength for most of the game isn't equal due to level.
2: I would appreciate it if you do not resort to personal insults. You've never seen me play. I climbed to gold from Bronze inbetween mid S2 to preseason 3. It's not like I got lucky went 8-2 in placements. I climbed. Then I had a really bad period because I climbed using basically only Maokai, and was unlucky with some teams [Like 0-10 botlanes by 10 mins, but as I always said, some of the losses in this period were my fault too] but I've since got my W/L equal again, and climbed from getting 4LP to getting 20+LP.
Generally how our 'discussions' go is me saying and explaining something, then you say 'no' and call me an idiot or insult me in some other way. That's not discussing, or arguing, or proving me wrong. That's borderline flaming. If you don't agree with me, either explain so to simulate discussion [Like your most recent post, if you deduct the personal attack], or don't reply. Just answering 'no' like you did a couple of posts ago isn't getting you anywhere, because you don't explain WHY I'm wrong, so obviously I don't accept I'm wrong, in the event I am indeed wrong
Nor is your usual sarcastic oe-liners after chopping my point down to one line.
i have never once called you an idiot/bad/whatever. i directly make a point to not insult you. in all of my posts, i (eventually) explain why i think you're wrong about whatever. i could have explained in detail why every champion you listed cannot 100-0, but that is a ton of word space and also i don't have the time to do that.
though hitting gold is just a matter of mechanical skill. you can hit gold with just consistent cs, good skillshot aim, and not misclicking things. a player who is excellent at these things can hit gold v without any actual knowledge of the game.ouch :(
Saying I hit Gold 5 by luck is implying it.
Also, it's not just me who called you out on it, Fightest did too.
ouch :(
shim, on the other hand, belongs in goldto this day I still disagree and am confused about this :ohdear:
I don't need to badmouth myself here. I said in the Renekton game that I played bad anyway, but I don't need to go into detail. I know what I did wrong, but I also know I didn't lose the game, Orianna did by feeding even harder than I ended up doing, picking mid first thus getting countered, and letting Ahri roam and snowball bot as well. I went 0/2/1 in lane, but I didn't go too far behind in CS regardless, and kept Jayce up top.
i could pick apart everything but i'll just do this
orianna doing poorly doesn't matter. you could have done better, and not just by not diving jayce. if you had kept ahead, you could have ganked mid and put your orianna more ahead. you could have countered the enemy jungle and helped your team. it's not just "oh i shouldn't have made this one mistake and everything would have been great", it's what you could have done without making that mistake--because judging from all of the posts i've seen you make ever, you would have likely just sat top and chomped on jayce and then wondered why your team was losing so bad later on.
also, ahri does not counter orianna. there are basically almost no hard counters in mid anymore. these false preconceptions are what i mean when i say lack of game knowledge, and they negatively affect your decision making processes
Arhi hits lv 6, ults past the ball, charms Orianna, and kills her because Orianna is made of paper.
That's a pretty hard counter, that's 100% reliable on Ahri not being awful and missing Charm. There's very little Orianna can do about it, she's reliant on her ball to fight, and Ahri can abuse the window of it being static.
And yeah, that's a big issue for me top, I sit up there too much. I don't play toplaners who roam tons.
Also, after the last few games, I take back my defending Gold players. They're actually worse than you make out Ryuu, and lack basic decision making.
also i was gonna quote that cute doge but then i realized it would have just been a blank quote so pretend i did thatam i a gud doge, meester
Yeah I came back from dinner to see that C9 got the first baron.
And then they got two more.
50 minutes only 2 inhibs so far :V
I went to sleep before the match was over, I watched up to the part where c9 was starting to make a comeback and they had just taken first baron. Who won?
One of my friends got me into playing this game recently(on my non-shitty laptop) and it's really fun but I'm horrible at it. I'm kinda too shy to play with anyone I don't know and that's how you get better at the game but...............................;-;Hey we should play some time ok
So, I, a Yi player, decided to buy Xin Zhao instead of LeBlanc due to Xin Zhao being a badass spear guy with the warrior spirit and all that.there is ONLY ONE way to play Xin Zhao (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON-6vYobie4)
Any tips for a guy that played as only Yi, on how to play Xin Zhao?
How should I play him, in contrast to how one would play Yi?
(Guess I'll get LeBlanc the next time I have 3k IP.)
there is ONLY ONE way to play Xin Zhao (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON-6vYobie4)
there is ONLY ONE way to play Xin Zhao (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON-6vYobie4)what's it like being as incredibly wrong as you (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVWMAgErKOA)
what's it like being as incredibly wrong as you (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVWMAgErKOA)
what's it like being as incredibly wrong as you (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVWMAgErKOA)dude malady is gone try again :smug:
dude malady is gone try again :smug:
So I tried a 5v5 with nothing but bots.Mass murdering bots is really easy though :V Getting a penta on bots is just a matter of getting them in the same place and kill them all before any leaves.
Would've gotten a Pentakill if an enemy wasn't already dead.
Anyway, damn, Xin Zhao is pretty awesome.
Mass murdering bots is really easy though :V Getting a penta on bots is just a matter of getting them in the same place and kill them all before any leaves.
Hey, you guys know I was saying Spellbraker would be dumb on Ranged ADC's?How do these kinds of items interact with Jayce, Nid, Elise and Kayle again?
Melee Only got added on the PBE.
How do these kinds of items interact with Jayce, Nid, Elise and Kayle again?
(hint it was because of jayce)
adc jayce is really really bad though. and it also ignores half of his kit. generally playstyles that render part of your kit useless aren't strongButbut... Jayce melee adc!!
adc jayce is really really bad though. and it also ignores half of his kit. generally playstyles that render part of your kit useless aren't strong
I'd say Diana was designed to be an AP Assassin but I think I'm the only one ever that does Bruiser Diana :colonveeplusalpha:
I did recently win a game with Assassin Diana though.
Mass murdering bots is really easy though :V Getting a penta on bots is just a matter of getting them in the same place and kill them all before any leaves.
Riven is probably the best if you just want to slaughter bots, you get a sword of the occult and 5 blood thirsters and the game is basically over.
I never said it was good, I'm saying he was designed to be one. Rengar was designed to be an AD Assassin. What do we get? AP Rengar and Tank Rengar.
Unless the bots are something like Annie/Sona/Ashe/MF/Sivir. Then you get bursted down.
Also, Condemn with 40% CDR could be funny. And tumble in general with 40% CDR.
Y'know, all this talk of crazy builds makes me remember when I did AP Vayne while smurfing and won :V
It was the most stupid sensation ever.
Tumble making Vayne Proc Lich Bane all the damn time + cdr for more stealth and stun hell yes.
So my adc gets so pissed off at me taking cs he couldn't that would have been lost to the tower while he was not in lane that he abandons bot and goes roaming...
We still win eventually, and... he actually apologized. What has this world come to?! :ohdear:
i was laning against new yi as kittyrina on the pbeyeah his damage is out of control right now
he alpha striked and auto'd at level one and did almost double of my auto q auto
i have a feeling he may require a little bit of tuning lolol
yeah his damage is out of control right now
its awesome BV
imo any decent mr/hp item would probably become the best mr item hands down and be one of the only mr items built ever
so i am glad there isn't one
Spirit Visage? That one's pretty good if you ask me.
that and bulwark has always been too strong, many up-front burst casters have been invalidated competitively because bulwark existed
actually that's a good example
the passive on it is supposed to make it so certain champions don't want to buy it because they're essentially wasting gold on a passive they don't use
but a lot of them buy it anyway because it's so good
so just imagine if there was an mr/hp item that was just for mr/hp
im not sure if it worked like this before but the new yi's double strike actually counts as two attacks for itself
so that means after the first double strike, the next one will come on the third auto attack
which means he just fucking melts turrets
get dunked
Where do you get this info?playing him on the PBE server
(this is unrelated to league but i want to start making a touhou fangame http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,15175.0.html so if you are interested in making games and/or have any associated skillz please give it a look over)repoorted
playing him on the PBE server
6/10 in placement matches and I get Silver IV. I'm a bit surprised since I figured I'd get high bronze but I get to be in Triangle's league so that's cool.:hi5: silly league-name buddy! And yeah that makes sense since I was 5-5 and got Silver V. We ought to duo queue cause you play a bunch of Ez and I like hitting cupcake/waterball/mutant plant support buttons and I am a little burned out playing solo games at the moment.
:hi5: silly league-name buddy! And yeah that makes sense since I was 5-5 and got Silver V. We ought to duo queue cause you play a bunch of Ez and I like hitting cupcake/waterball/mutant plant support buttons and I am a little burned out playing solo games at the moment.Sounds good. I've been getting scary amounts of lag and DCs lately so it'd be in a few days to see if it goes away but I'm looking forward to it.
Boy, I went 6-4 and got placed in bronze 1. What the shit.7-3 and silver II :derp:
lululu should be a pretty decent lane. lulu carries a lot of early power and makes it easier for lucian to set up his skillshots(and makes it harder for people to walk out of his ult)
So there's another temple with an ancient evil that will destroy the world, now?
How many of these things are there gonna be?
(Referring to Varus' lore, btw)
yo dat comic
I'd say Leona is better for 'Don't let them walk out of ult' purposes.
Or Sona
Or Taric
Or Thresh
Or Blitzcrank
I never really liked Udyr's voice that much. Think it should be deeper.
AP Skarner all of my yes
both first bloods yesyesseseseses
too bad I lost both games because of whining feeders and getting camped like mad, respectively :V
Also, Udyr, Udyr everywhere.
Comparing one combination to others that may synergise better is a point in answering. Not that Lulu isn't good, she has a strong poke/push combo with their Q's, and her passive combines well with Lucian's, while shielding him from retaliation at the same time.
Not Christian Bale enough for ya?
Welp, laptop overheated right before I would've lost a match, and again later, and I decided not to bother reconnecting to the second game.Ah another fellow of the order of the laptop with shity cooling. (the real reason I'm in bronze V, I suspect)
Guess who got his second one-day ban?
So, me and my brother were talking, and we came up with the best idea ever for a skin.
Mad Cow Alistar
- Alistar in a cow suit
- Every quote except 'You can't milk those' is replaced by Phreak making angry cow noises.
- Recall animation has him pull a glass of milk from thin air and raise it.
- Milk-shockwave when he uses Q
its actually sonathis actually
because sona is the best
always
Guys, how do I Panthenon?
So, uh, remember what I said, about blog posts to put my thoughts of games and whatnot?Huh, that sounds like a good way to keep my Tumblr blog updated...
Welp (http://ramblinglolplayer.tumblr.com/).
So I just get out of games and put all of my thoughts of it right there, I just uploaded my fourth game though I haven't commentated on it because I need to get up early tomorrow (Like 6am early) so yeah. There is a LoL Replay thingy though.
Anyways, I put all of my thoughts in there and organize them as much as I can, however, I'm no ryuu, nor am I Eyem, don't expect everything I say to be right (I'm actually expecting a lot of what I put in there to be wrong.) so yeah, but if you're bored you can go read it, I guess.
I'm currently Silver IV for the uninformed, btw, so I'm at what people call "ELO Hell". That might sound interesting to some, not to others, but if you guys wanna take a look at the BR Server I guess it's also worth a read :V
Warning: I'm VERY fond of Walls of Text
Guys, how do I Panthenon?
Guys, how do I Panthenon?
stop playing like a bruiser and play like a squishy caster
(this is an assumption made off of your previous champion choices)
Guys, how do I Panthenon?
Anyone else find it funny that a shield builds into a locket?Two books make a gun.
A mallet and 3 swords makes... What the hell is Trinity Force supposed to be anyway?▲
A mallet and 3 swords makes... What the hell is Trinity Force supposed to be anyway?Are you questioning the magic of item fusing? Surely you won't start mentioning where all these items are stuffed in the pockets of the characters?
Also, a book and a crystal make a mask.
A sword makes a "scepter".
What if it's just that the Summoner gets the items and channels their properties into the champion?
And why are the Touhou artifacts grossly underused?
My guess is that one is from a Stage 1 Boss and the other is from a Flat Chest :V
Wriggle's lantern is the best item in the game. If you don't buy it, uninstall the game right now.
Also, both are good for the Dunkmaster.
My guess is that one is from a Stage 1 Boss and the other is from a Flat Chest :V
because sona is the best
always
It dosen't mater what you do as Sona in ARAM, because her auras out the butt, poke, and R button make her hilariously broken in ARAM anyway. AD Sona works simply because Sona as a whole is borked in ARAM. And the best part is MOST PEOPLE DON'T EVEN REALISE, and instead say champions like Nidalee/AP Yi are worse. When they are not. Sona makes everyone stronger with auras, her R is borked, heals, sustains, bursts... and that's before she has any items at all!I guess it is just that when you get hit by a nid spear out of the fog and die from half health, or if the enemy yi keeps resetting and gets a quadra-kill, the power those bring to the table are a lot more directly visible than the auras, heal and poke that sona provides, or even her ult. :derp:
why does Kha'Zix score so low? He has poke and he has resets on kill/assist, so shouldn't he do fairly well? :wat:
Tryndamere gets worse and worse as you get better/people you play agaisnt get better.
Like Yi and Xin Zhao, then?As a Riven player myself, I find that learning her can be difficult at first, but when used properly, she's the biggest bully in the top lane, albeit against ranged champs. Staggering her attacks to make the most of her passive is a key part of her gameplay. (Ex., Q then auto-attack, Q again then auto-attack, etc., etc.) I know a lot of people play Wukong and Cho, though I've never even touched them, so I won't say much about them. Garen is a pretty easy champ to figure out with a strong early game, so if you're still trying to get used to just playing the game, he's probably my first recommendation.
Hm...
Riven and Wukong also seem promising...
And Cho'Gath...
So many champions, too few IPs...
I could always try Garen.
Gambit lost, but while Diamondprox gave up first blood, I wouldn't blame the loss on him entirely as most of the world appears to be doing.
<snip>If you put it that way, then okay :V I was thinking more along the lines of people saying that they lost because he picked Karma.
If you put it that way, then okay :V I was thinking more along the lines of people saying that they lost because he picked Karma.
Tryndamere gets worse and worse as you get better/people you play agaisnt get better.
Champion tags are actually going to start making sense again. No more Teemo being listed as "support" nonsense. Oh wait, hold that thought...he is a support though
Riot shut up and take my mone- oh ok.
(http://i.imgur.com/mIYqJcM.png?1)
I guess this means I actually need to start playing again! Maybe once I fix why my ping will more than double at random points in every SR, causing many delays and my clicking on the map to be a mere suggestion that my character will promptly ignore (but I don't have this as often on ARAM? Are they different sub-servers or something?)
I have Sona now.This is exactly why really, really bad Sona players (or more accurately, I guess, non-players) puzzle me.
So... easy. Especially when you're me and love to initiate to the point where you can react to good initiates in an instant. [The enemy team had Vayne and Caitlyn. A chance to R both showed up. No hesitation, Flash R, win teamfight completely]
goddamn c9 is unstoppable
12 win streak
almost every one of them stomps
they should just move to asia
nerf doubleliftnerf chauster
if you're playing on a laptop or something, it might actually be your network card(or whatever controls your network) overheating. maybe. possibly.That actually makes sense, as this laptop is 4-5 years old and MJP never noticed a problem when he plays on the main network TV-computer thing (this is right out for me it melts my brain with the big screen) It's just so frustrating where no matter what the champion is larping Mundo randomly and GOES WHERE HE PLEASES thanks to the delays. Now that I think about it, I posted in this thread about that issue completely tanking some of my ranked placement matches a month or so back :(
That actually makes sense, as this laptop is 4-5 years old and MJP never noticed a problem when he plays on the main network TV-computer thing (this is right out for me it melts my brain with the big screen) It's just so frustrating where no matter what the champion is larping Mundo randomly and GOES WHERE HE PLEASES thanks to the delays. Now that I think about it, I posted in this thread about that issue completely tanking some of my ranked placement matches a month or so back :(
I suppose there's not much fixing it minus physically replacing the network card, or maybe switching over to a physical connection? The latter will obviously be easier to cobble together than the former.
jesus ad thresh's damage is insane
two unstacked BT and a Sword of the Occult
1100 damage autos
non crit
jesus ad thresh's damage is insane
two unstacked BT and a Sword of the Occult
1100 damage autos
non crit
Started playing around with Syndra, she's really fun and I like how her skills flowWE HAVE A NEW RECRUIT. :3
Have this thing I haven't checked if it's already been posted. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Mk_bBW3uM)Just as related here, if not more related, since the pic's got Needlessly Large Rod and Infinity Edge in the main image, and Kat's mentioned.
It's probably more applicable in the Dota thread but have it since it's league related.
Just as related here, if not more related, since the pic's got Needlessly Large Rod and Infinity Edge in the main image, and Kat's mentioned.
Speaking of the Kat part, I found that most amusing.
...it's explicity titled as a league parody, I'm just making a joke that the dota crew has more feeders :vAh, I see. I would not have known this, since I stick strictly to League and haven't touched DoTA. Please excuse my derp. :V
Ye feeding in dota is like a million times worst. The game is centered around hard carries and you lose gold when you die.
Have this thing I haven't checked if it's already been posted. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Mk_bBW3uM)We should start a compilation of the best things that ever happened to these threads.
Can't practice on bots ("too easy" (yeah right)). Can't practice in normals (haphazard matchmaking). DEFINITELY can't practice in ranked. Custom games/scrims probably don't create the most realistic situations.if you're dieing less than once every 2 minutes or so little chance of that.
In other words, I might be about to have an intentional feeding case levied against me.
Tips for wukong. Play him mid instead of top.
only against like... karthus. otherwise no
basically most mages can deal with gap closers well enough to ruin wukong's lane. he'd be okay against any mages who CAN'T but he does actually poop on karthus really hard
Almost anyone with a gapcloser poops on karthus if he doesn't know how to position himself properly he'll die but if he does then he can't really farm as well.I have yet to play a single champion that cannot destroy Karthus with ease. It might just be because I'm at low ELO wood tier for some reason, or because he's the EASIEST CHAMPION TO OUT-ANYTHING IN THE LANING PHASE. Seriously, whenever I go mid and see him on the enemy team roster, I just scoff and take to bullying him like crazy. Kennen can Q/W passive poke him, Karma can Q poke, Orianna can yo-yo, Lux can harass with anything she bloody wants, Kat/Akali can whittle him down with Q then combo whenever she pleases, Talon can E and Q with no problem, Zed has his shurikens and clones, etc., etc. Can someone please name a champion for me that seems even vaguely viable in mid that would actually have trouble with Karthus?
I have never lost my lane as Akali vs Karthus ever (not the game), I've done the matchup 10 times or so, basically if he doesn't back off I can 100-25 in one go before he backs off, or if he doesn't I just kill him.
EASIEST CHAMPION TO OUT-ANYTHING IN THE LANING PHASE.
But yeah, Wukong mid just doesn't sound like a wise decision when there are better decisions in the AD mid pool. (Talon and Zed to name two)
basically most mages can deal with gap closers well enough to ruin wukong's lane. he'd be okay against any mages who CAN'T but he does actually poop on karthus really hard
if you're dieing less than once every 2 minutes or so little chance of that.> movespeed
Intentionally means it, real intentional feeders stack movespeed to get back to lane to die faster. Being crap isn't bannable, quite the opposite. Also anyone saying in chat that they're going to report you generally gets punished. The exception is normally for troll picking, going against the meta is not a troll pick, trying to take a lane/role someone else already picked, without discussing this, is.
Normals matchmaking is fine, just make sure to play draft, that solves most of the insta-lock problems.
Practicing in ranked is also fine, I find normals hard to practice in due to it often being players trying out champs they are bad with/ that aren't competitive in ranked.
Accept that you might be a bronze player and you may need to learn how to play alongside other feeders.
---I've never heard of that word in my life, actually. I had to look it up to see why it was so offensive, so correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it basically calling someone an idiot with the intensity and animosity one would use the c-word with? (In North America, mind, since apparently it has less weight in the United Kingdom)
e:
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ARE YOU KIDDING ME? "your are so stupid pendejo" IS PARDONABLE? DO THESE ASSHATS WHO PARDONED HIM EVEN KNOW WHAT PENDEJO MEANS?
faith in humanity -9999
in other news, accuracy no longer 100%. fuck you very much, too, guys~
Yi kept initiating
Nami OP
if you're dieing less than once every 2 minutes or so little chance of that.
Intentionally means it, real intentional feeders stack movespeed to get back to lane to die faster. Being crap isn't bannable, quite the opposite. Also anyone saying in chat that they're going to report you generally gets punished. The exception is normally for troll picking, going against the meta is not a troll pick, trying to take a lane/role someone else already picked, without discussing this, is.
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Accept that you might be a bronze player and you may need to learn how to play alongside other feeders.
Sweet fancy, Jax is amazing.
Considered trying him or Wukong, but I was only able to afford the former. Definitely worth it.
Too bad most/all of the Mobafire guides for Jax are outdated.
Graves looks like a cool guy that can deal a lot of damage... Hm.
Sweet fancy, Jax is amazing.I've only tried Wukong for a little bit, and holy mother of cranberries is he awesome. I've actually done a decent job of WINNING most top lanes with him, despite the huge lack of ganks I get. His Q as a poking tool is quite supreme, and his E > AA > Q > AA > W combo is quite strong, and pretty good for keeping safe. I've only built him with Hydra's and Black Cleaver first, but I've yet to have a bad time with such a start. Yeah, his early game does demand more caution than most top champs, but his late-game is the most rockingest thing in the League.
Considered trying him or Wukong, but I was only able to afford the former. Definitely worth it.
Too bad most/all of the Mobafire guides for Jax are outdated.
Graves looks like a cool guy that can deal a lot of damage... Hm.
i want to play sona in all lanes
too bad its hard to farm as her
maybe iceborn/static would work well for that
Have it your way!
Also, thanks.
Also, why not Mobafire?
Arcade Hecarim whaaaaat"hurr durr stupid feggen bronies ruin errythang derp"
is he gonna look like mlp
I heard you want Robot Rainbow Unicorn Hecarim (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTfRWknEHvU)I'm not actually sure how to respond to this... But I'm fairly certain Riot is caressing my wallet lustfully yet again.
That ending. The Sona almost saved the game, I didn't even see who got the lasthit on the nexus with almost no hp.
Yeah, they just barely got the nexus, if nyjacky hadn't come down I doubt they would have gotten it, 2 seconds more and they would have lost
EDIT: Holy crap that Turtle/Dyrus submarine. Like whenever you give TSM Shen/Karthus, it's going to get real. Not to mention Twitch/Nocturne.
EDIT2: C9 finally falls, Doublelift called it. "Patch 3.10 will be the fall of C9". Actually not really, that facecheck 3-0 for Vul screwed them over, Vulcan dominated the early and mid game, and they didn't give C9 a chance, well played by them.
Doublelift called it?
Anyone going to this?
http://na.lolesports.com/season3/split2/articles/world-championship-tickets-available-aug-15
I'm most likely going.
How to lane against Renekton? Had to go top (probably my rarest lane, my preference is usually ADC/Jungle/Support/Mid/Top) so I picked Darius, had to face one, and after I managed to dunk him at 6 every time we'd trade he'd come out of it taking almost no damage despite only having a couple of Dorans/Vamp Scepter/Tabis and eventually he'd just all-in (but thankfully my team was there every time to clean up, leading to fed Nasus/Lux and gg). I'm guessing that I either needed to get sustain of my own or go for longer trades after he blew stun and Cull on me so something would stick.
Anyone going to this?
http://na.lolesports.com/season3/split2/articles/world-championship-tickets-available-aug-15
I'm most likely going.
Watching that TSM vs VUL game was really frustrating, I mean first of all wtf Dyrus on Karthus, Regi made bad plays by diving in, zhonyas, then dying, WildTurtle's positioning was nonexistent. They easily could have taken that game I feel, but they just executed poorly.
EG v Gambit.
NiP v Fnatic
EG v Gambit... just like old times.
Gambit just fell apart and went in too fast without accord for how fast each individual character could go in, ended up like a conga line, and the Evelynn/Shen 'Submarine' got sunk before Alex managed to port in, and Alex died before Genja/Voidle arrived.
Gambit completely mistimed their assault, fell apart, and frankly threw the game. Not like them, really, to mess up co-ordination like that.
wow that game
iiiii don't really think 1 game of data is enough to say that one antiquated item is good on someoneOkay... TWO games of data!
also i sort of feel that quinn is supposed to be "low risk" and valor is supposed to be "high risk", but due to quinn's issues, it ends up more like "high risk" and "why would you do this"
Valor prioritizes champions over minions, prioritizes low HP and has a 4.5 seconds cooldown if the mark is procced - 10 seconds if it isn't.
Just leaving this here.
Why not just mark them yourself with her E?
I'd say do it because you're doing a lot of damage anyway, and as mentioned before, passive marks aren't all that reliable and waiting for them makes you predictable. I don't think the cooldown on it is all that large anyway.
vault is supposed to always deliver you to a point farther than where you cast it from(+ slow)
also stand aside and condemn completely fuck with vault's ability to do things
Cooldown is 12/11/10/9/8. Range is 750, and it puts you 525 away [Max AA range] at which point you automatically begin an autoattack on the target. [Making it a pusdo-AA reset, another reason to Auto-Vault-Auto-Q, especially early.]
The 750 range vs 525 landing range is also why Vault is an awful escape.
That got changed ages ago Ryuu.
'Upon reaching the target, she leaps off and lands near her maximum attack range away from the target. Valor will immediately mark this target as Vulnerable. '
because your e is your defensive/escape ability. it's like ezreal using arcane shift for damageand why would you engage with enemy minions behind you
and why would you engage with enemy minions behind youbecause ezreal
because ezrealbut quinn
Question, I'm hearing everybody say that Skarner is bad right now. Why? I stomp face every time I go Skarner.Because ain't nobody cool enough to Skarner right. I've tried it (with mixed but ultimately decent results), you stomp, Eyem stomps, so it can't be all that bad. Think old Karma.
Fun tidbit: I (as Sona) flashed over the dragon wall just as Quinn vaulted to me, trapping me in the pit. With 3 more enemy teammates on the way.I'm pretty sure I've given one Vi a really rough time whilst playing Quinn, wherein no matter how fast she ran, I outran her as Valor. Hell, she ran past me as I was soloing dragon, and all I did was kill dragon and then proceed to bolt after her. She even tried to Q over the bot lane's river bushes to escape me, and I just vaulted with her over the wall to slaughter her.
Let's just say rape culture had never been so strongly condoned, nor since.and why would you engage with enemy minions behind you
Think old Karma.
Ironic considering I was actually good with old Karma :Vexactly
Question, I'm hearing everybody say that Skarner is bad right now. Why? I stomp face every time I go Skarner.
Well he's not bad par-say, but he's not good either. He's a little sub-par when everyone and their mother has mobilty, so he cannot catch up, and he's oom half the time from clearing the jungle, but on the other hand, if he DOES catch someone... they don't get away.Jungle changes weakened him he had crazy clear in season 2 jungle, now he has only average. He has to get into melee range to apply his CC and hasn't got much gap close, so same problem as Udyr.
Reds have been saying there will likly be a minor rework on Skarner because right now he's binary. Either he's worthless and it's not fun to play him, or he's insane when he catches people and isn't fun to play against because permaslow. His pickrate also lowered by over 90% in a year, indicateing something is wrong, and the Skarner players srtopped playing him. [Especially as he was never that popular to start with, his fanbase was pretty niche and small even at it's height]