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Title: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Chuckolator on November 04, 2012, 07:06:41 PM
If you suck, or only think you suck, this is the place for you.

Looking around some stages to see which one to do next. Hmm, how about SA 6?

*game overs to Ten Evil Stars*
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Bang Jan on November 04, 2012, 07:11:04 PM
>Tries to time out Buddhist diamond

>Dies with 4 seconds on the clock

Why does this happen!?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Nindella on November 04, 2012, 07:19:00 PM
If you suck, or only think you suck, this is the place for you.

Looking around some stages to see which one to do next. Hmm, how about SA 6?

*game overs to Ten Evil Stars*

Damn, that spell catches me out some times even in the safe height, many a run it has evilly ended!  (Gotta not daydream  :blush:)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Chuckolator on November 04, 2012, 07:41:50 PM
Damn, that spell catches me out some times even in the safe height, many a run it has evilly ended!  (Gotta not daydream  :blush:)
Remember when I said
byakuren is easier than utsuho
? Now you know why. <_<

And trying some LLS since I think I can record my own videos now,  I just died twice to stage 1. <_<
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on November 04, 2012, 08:44:17 PM
Remember when I said
byakuren is easier than utsuho
? Now you know why. <_<

Wait, you managed Byakuren but not Utsuho? Seiga, you are weird.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Nindella on November 04, 2012, 10:19:45 PM
ARGGHH, failed SA Lunatic MarisaA No-Bombs to Orin's last non! 

So many stupid deaths in stage 4 and 5!  (Messed up blue ying-yangs in stage 5, Killed off Catwalk surprisingly too early which led to messing up popcorn, Messing up Orin's 1st spell!!?)   :fail:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on November 05, 2012, 06:19:45 AM
>Tries to time out Buddhist diamond

>Dies with 4 seconds on the clock

Why does this happen!?
I feel you, so very much. I've been trying to time out that bitch for centuries.
Damn, that spell catches me out some times even in the safe height, many a run it has evilly ended!  (Gotta not daydream  :blush:)
I'm pretty sure I have never died to Ten Evil Stars. You don't have to be absurdly concentrated or anything... it's like you guys decided to not look at the screen. :3
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Spyglass on November 05, 2012, 09:32:36 AM
And here I sit, happy if I can make it past Koakuma on Normal without getting myself killed...

Seriously, I feel inferior....
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on November 05, 2012, 12:10:35 PM
same here. never died to ten evil stars. BUT UNCONTAINED NUCLEAR REACTION IS ANOTHER STORY :V it's like...the only reason I haven't perfected that stage yet. and that's godawful.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: fondue on November 05, 2012, 01:44:43 PM
OH COME ON IM LATE AGAIN LET ME MAKE THE NEXT THREAD HERE NEXT TIME
Bweeeeeh, MarisaB is impossible to use against Byakuren.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on November 05, 2012, 03:14:52 PM
>GFW Extra 90fps: BEGIN

>No Deaths stage portion
>2 deaths to the second nonspell
>3 deaths to the second spell
>2 deaths to Test Slave

This was a real thing.

I need that computeroutthewindow.gif for times like these.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Nindella on November 05, 2012, 04:20:23 PM
ARGGHH, failed SA Lunatic MarisaA No-Bombs to Orin's last non! 

So many stupid deaths in stage 4 and 5!  (Messed up blue ying-yangs in stage 5, Killed off Catwalk surprisingly too early which led to messing up popcorn, Messing up Orin's 1st spell!!?)   :fail:

Failed SA Lunatic MarisaB No-Bombs to Cat's Erratic step. 

 5 deaths to Satori's Patchouli spells is pretty bad, eh?  Way to go ruining a perfect run Patori  :fail:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Ranko Hoshino on November 05, 2012, 07:38:37 PM
Crashing into the fairies at the beginning of TD Stage 1
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: RNG on November 05, 2012, 07:40:22 PM
Crashing into the fairies at the beginning of TD Stage 1

TD Stage 1 has a tendency to spawn spirits right on top of you while you're PoCing. It is not a dignified way to die, let me say that.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Yatakarasu on November 05, 2012, 07:42:36 PM
Patori
Hehehe.

Ugh, I need to take a break from SA Extra. I keep getting worse and worse at it. Maybe I should work on 1ccing UFO, mainly cause I really want to try my hand at the extra.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on November 05, 2012, 07:48:53 PM
OKAY MASTER SPARK-LIKE FLASHLIGHT

I NO-DEATHED YOU BEFORE

I'LL DO IT AGAIN

>Enters with 560%
>Leaves with 280%

... why ;-;
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Kaze_Senshi on November 05, 2012, 08:13:19 PM
Game over at Hourai Doll *flips the table*
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Ranko Hoshino on November 05, 2012, 08:21:55 PM
Game over at Hourai Doll *flips the table*
That happened to me a few times before I got my clear.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Nindella on November 05, 2012, 10:25:40 PM
I can't stream bullets.  :colonveeplusalpha: (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=25031)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: DarkAtma on November 05, 2012, 10:43:06 PM
Failed Forbidden arcanum elixir at 1 second  :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Reiko on November 05, 2012, 11:15:23 PM
SA Hard, one thousand stage 1 restarts later.
> enters stage 5 with 3 spare lives
> leaves stage 5 with 3 spare lives
> "ok, this is going well, I'll just bomb everything in stage 6"
> dies twice before midboss
> dies to trivial stuff after midboss
> "..."

Why  :fail:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Nindella on November 05, 2012, 11:20:52 PM
Failed No-Focus EoSD Lunatic on Scarlet Gen with 1 bomb in stock and a sliver of health left on the spell. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=25036)

"DIE ALREADY DIEE!!" "I can still do this I've got a life!!"

Well, I don't really mind much, didn't really kefit.wav cause EoSD isn't high on my priorities or anything, but I did have a good laugh with the similarities between our runs, hehe  :derp:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Cor on November 06, 2012, 02:19:20 AM
I hate splash damage, I hate lingering DoT, I hate widespread fire, I hate slow-traveling fire, and I hate myself for being so shit with them all.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Ran-Rii on November 06, 2012, 10:46:18 AM
Well... you guys are on such a high caliber I can say nothing...

Is it just me or is it that Marisa's Magic Sign: Milky Way spawns stars at random from the side of the screen, then homes in on you at random? Cause I can dodge everything from that stage, graze Stardust Reverie like mad and still get killed at that part?

Also, it is just painful that Stage 2 of SA, the spell with the Tongue Cut Sparrow thingy... I had to read the legend to know which to shoot...

And the Wriggle Kick... owned an Unsuspecting me many times before I learnt to dodge it... reflex actions are the worst.

I hate the fact that I always, by reflex, dodge into a bullet after I weaved through a crazy-hard pattern.

And failing Forbidden Arcanum - Hourai Elixir with 14 seconds to spare on Normal just makes me want to kill someone...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Bang Jan on November 06, 2012, 03:59:18 PM
If you suck, or only think you suck, this is the place for you.

Looking around some stages to see which one to do next. Hmm, how about SA 6?

*game overs to Ten Evil Stars*

There isn't a link to the previous thread. :D

On topic:

Grr! Why hasn't anyone made a non sucking version of Hourglass yet!?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: fondue on November 06, 2012, 08:13:45 PM
NO RUMIA
STOP KILLING ME ON YOUR LAST LUNATIC SPELL
PLEASE
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Bang Jan on November 06, 2012, 08:32:47 PM
Man! Lunatic Guse Flash at 90fps is so impossibly hard it's hilarious.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: cactu on November 07, 2012, 01:25:45 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/dmNAP.png)
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Chuckolator on November 07, 2012, 01:28:09 AM
I'd like to say I know the agony of dying to Superhuman, but an almost NBNUFO beats my puny perfect stage attempt. <_<
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Nindella on November 07, 2012, 02:37:39 AM
Gameover to Orin's final spell with 4/5 life frags because I'm still a coward and can't make simple dodges. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=25067)

Also, a disgusting TWO death's to Orin's final non-spell despite my ability to time it out hundreds and hundreds of times, I deserve to have her push her cart over my corpse until it's a mangly mess of gore.  Freaking hell.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Tsym on November 07, 2012, 05:07:18 AM
Grrrrr. I think part of the reason why my SA clears haven't been faster is because I'm bored out of my mind when doing SA stages 1 and 2. They're so lame and un-fun compared to the awesomeness that is stages 3 and beyond, that I get lazy, and when I get lazy, I make stupid mistakes. Before, I thought that SA stage 1 was pretty good. Then I played EoSD and UFO and now I think the stage sucks balls. Running around the screen trying to collect things is infinitely more interesting compared to dodging a bunch of aimed/static/boring crap. Bah if only I could start at stage 3 with a one life penalty. I'd take that. Hell I'd even take it if it was a 2 or 3 life penalty. Anything to stop myself from falling asleep at the keyboard.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Seppo Hovi on November 07, 2012, 03:30:01 PM
Hurrr. (http://i.imgur.com/DJmhP.png)

Followed by border break & death on 3rd card, deaths on  final & penultimate spell card (one each)
1,35B.

I've been slacking off, and this starts to slowly hurt. I'm still liking the game, the shot and the music, but it's painful watching yourself failing stuff over and over again. Must keep going, however. Hopefully in the future.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Kaze_Senshi on November 07, 2012, 03:46:54 PM
Hurrr. (http://i.imgur.com/DJmhP.png)

Followed by border break & death on 3rd card, deaths on  final & penultimate spell card (one each)
1,35B.

I've been slacking off, and this starts to slowly hurt. I'm still liking the game, the shot and the music, but it's painful watching yourself failing stuff over and over again. Must keep going, however. Hopefully in the future.


This isn't SA, how do you have so many graze points? :P
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on November 07, 2012, 05:29:28 PM
Does somebody have a rope? I need to hang myself. Goddammit.

Stage 5. Two epic failures right on top of each other.

Fail all spells both times except one where I cap CC. How is it possible to fuck up so badly?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Yatakarasu on November 07, 2012, 07:03:27 PM
Kogasa, Kogasa why do I always have to waste a bomb (or more) on you. WHY?!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Validon98 on November 07, 2012, 09:37:52 PM
Three times over my many attempts at doing SA's Extra have I made it to Koishi in the last two days. All three of those times ended in the third phase of "Philosophy of a Hated Person," the most recent as the spell ended. Why can't I just clear one Extra Stage?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Oh on November 07, 2012, 10:14:44 PM
Fuck Nue, just fuck. This extra stage is requiring so much effort than it should. I keep dying stupidly to stupid things, never once made a run past blue UFO.
Nue's third non-spell kills me for no reason.
And then there's Koishi. I had a run ruined by the survival, the yellow part.
I also had a 1DNB MoF stage 6, died to Source of Rains.
And 80% reflowering ruined two runs that got there.

I feel like I can perfect UFO Extra easily, but I always die to silly things...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Kaze_Senshi on November 08, 2012, 12:25:22 AM
Bleh I went for the first time until Ran's Ultimate Buddist with 5 lifes in stock and I lost 2 lifes in this spell, FOCK
At least I beat my highscore =/
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Wriggle on November 08, 2012, 03:45:42 AM
>"Hmm, it has been a while I don't play my beloved PCB... let's try NB (and preferably Nbb) Hard mode".
>Gets to stage 5 with 7 lives.
>DIES 4 FUCKING TIMES, reaches stage 6 with 3 lives, and game overs at Yuyu's second card, despite having perfected that stage before.

(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100610001551/callofduty/images/6/61/Explain.jpg)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Thornytowers on November 08, 2012, 05:25:24 AM
I understand that it's because I'm a noob, but I'm tired of losing 2-3 lives to Patchouli level. Yep, that's right the level kills me, not the midboss. I rarely make it to Patchouli, and when I do, I lose.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Kaze_Senshi on November 08, 2012, 11:02:49 AM
I understand that it's because I'm a noob, but I'm tired of losing 2-3 lives to Patchouli level. Yep, that's right the level kills me, not the midboss. I rarely make it to Patchouli, and when I do, I lose.

Streaming (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/General_Strategy#Streaming) is your friend  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Wriggle on November 08, 2012, 03:01:13 PM
I understand that it's because I'm a noob, but I'm tired of losing 2-3 lives to Patchouli level. Yep, that's right the level kills me, not the midboss. I rarely make it to Patchouli, and when I do, I lose.

Streaming (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/General_Strategy#Streaming) is your friend  :V

Indeed. This replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=24525) might help you, it's my NB Hard clear, where I perfected stage 4. It has some neat streaming strategies there. :3 (Reimu-B though, so Patchy's cards may differ).
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Tsym on November 08, 2012, 04:43:34 PM
Well I now officially hate SanaeA, and I'm guessing I'll hate ReimuB when I get to her too. Why? Well apparently her options like to dick around and hit whatever the hell they want instead of hitting what YOU want. Yeah you know stage 6? The space invader fairies? Well for God's sake snake options I want to hit the damn fairies on MY side not on the other side. I needed to bomb twice because my base shot didn't have enough power to kill the fairies in time to get to the UFO. Such BS. I was so close to a 1cc... I was 2/2 heading into stage 6 god damn it. I didn't even make it to Byakuren.

At least I can take some solace in the fact that I NM1B Ichi- oh wait I quit out so fast that I forgot to save the replay. Oh double damn it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on November 08, 2012, 08:19:50 PM
just played ReimuA in MoF for the first time. on normal.

I game over'd :V on source of rain, or whatever it's called on normal. my refusal to bomb was probably the cause, but I don't really have an excuse :D I found it hilarious, though. dicking around like there weren't even bullets onscreen. everywhere and every time.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: nintendonut888 on November 08, 2012, 08:22:29 PM
Well I now officially hate SanaeA, and I'm guessing I'll hate ReimuB when I get to her too. Why? Well apparently her options like to dick around and hit whatever the hell they want instead of hitting what YOU want. Yeah you know stage 6? The space invader fairies? Well for God's sake snake options I want to hit the damn fairies on MY side not on the other side. I needed to bomb twice because my base shot didn't have enough power to kill the fairies in time to get to the UFO. Such BS. I was so close to a 1cc... I was 2/2 heading into stage 6 god damn it. I didn't even make it to Byakuren.

At least I can take some solace in the fact that I NM1B Ichi- oh wait I quit out so fast that I forgot to save the replay. Oh double damn it.

Well, I won't argue that Sanae A is a pretty derp shot type, but shouldn't you contemplate the fact that you wasted so many resources chasing UFOs, especially at such a late point in the game? That's rather counter-intuitive.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Cor on November 08, 2012, 11:41:46 PM
Well I now officially hate SanaeA, and I'm guessing I'll hate ReimuB when I get to her too. Why? Well apparently her options like to dick around and hit whatever the hell they want instead of hitting what YOU want. Yeah you know stage 6? The space invader fairies? Well for God's sake snake options I want to hit the damn fairies on MY side not on the other side. I needed to bomb twice because my base shot didn't have enough power to kill the fairies in time to get to the UFO. Such BS. I was so close to a 1cc... I was 2/2 heading into stage 6 god damn it. I didn't even make it to Byakuren.
Yep, you're gonna absolutely loathe ReimuB. That's why I dislike her, and I like SanaeA. RB's options can and will fire behind her too! Have fun with the stages! Oh, and hope you're not summoning UFOs during the stage 3 orb spams. Donut is correct, though. There must be something you can improve on, since you can do stage 6 UFOs pretty much the same way with all shots.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Goldom on November 08, 2012, 11:52:01 PM
I think this qualifies: I finally found a laptop that both has a real video card and a non-chiclet keyboard, and bought it.
It doesn't support rollover (simultaneous pressing) of shift+z+x.  :colonveeplusalpha:

WELL time for AutoHotkey and getting used to Caps+a+s instead. :(
Actually, Ctrl+win+alt is a little easier to hold, but doesn't give me a 4th key for TD...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: I have no name on November 09, 2012, 12:51:38 AM
Actually, Ctrl+win+alt is a little easier to hold, but doesn't give me a 4th key for TD...
The spacebar?

I can't dodge bullets today.  Days like this are becoming annoyingly frequent.  Stupid cold slowing my reactions a bit and making my hands a bit stiffer.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on November 09, 2012, 01:25:50 AM
Days like this are becoming annoyingly frequent.

My life in a nutshell.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Goldom on November 09, 2012, 02:23:51 AM
Eh, I wouldn't trust the space to register in a pinch if I'm just hitting the very edge of it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Tsym on November 09, 2012, 02:54:31 AM
Well, I won't argue that Sanae A is a pretty derp shot type, but shouldn't you contemplate the fact that you wasted so many resources chasing UFOs, especially at such a late point in the game? That's rather counter-intuitive.
Yep, you're gonna absolutely loathe ReimuB. That's why I dislike her, and I like SanaeA. RB's options can and will fire behind her too! Have fun with the stages! Oh, and hope you're not summoning UFOs during the stage 3 orb spams. Donut is correct, though. There must be something you can improve on, since you can do stage 6 UFOs pretty much the same way with all shots.
Oh joy with ReimuB. Gotta factor in a few additional bombs then...

Oh of course I can improve on stuff. It was just my first time ever getting to stage 6 with SanaeA, so I was majorly caught off guard and annoyed. I also managed to get to the space invader fairies with only 1 power and, guess what? Because SanaeA's snake shots try to hit the left/right fairies and because only her base shot is the one that hit the fairies in front of me, by the time I managed to kill the fairies blocking the UFO, another wave came to take their place. I went into stage 6 with 2 life pieces, so I needed to get another 2 so I could get another life. If I didn't kill the red UFO, I would have had to summon another one, which means one less bomb.
The other wasted bomb was because I messed up the opening orbs and somehow managed to not kill an orb on one side, which meant that the green UFO was just shy of enough items to reach max and was about to leave the screen, so I bombed to make sure I got at least something. But yeah, I need to practice stage 6 a bit with different shot types. I don't want to be caught off guard like that again.

Eh, I wouldn't trust the space to register in a pinch if I'm just hitting the very edge of it.
Especially a gel membrane laptop keyboard. Better to use z/x/c or something, unless you play TD with 4 fingers on the keyboard or something. (I just use my bomb finger)

I can't dodge bullets today.  Days like this are becoming annoyingly frequent.
Welcome to my world. Consistency? Ha! That's funny.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: I have no name on November 09, 2012, 02:56:25 AM
My life in a nutshell.
Welcome to my world. Consistency? Ha! That's funny.
But this sort of thing doesn't usually happen for me ;_;
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Cor on November 09, 2012, 03:13:25 AM
Welcome to my world. Consistency? Ha! That's funny.
I think we all know that feel.
Quote
But yeah, I need to practice stage 6 a bit with different shot types. I don't want to be caught off guard like that again.
You didn't practice stages with SanaeA before trying to 1cc with her? You're one brave dude.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Tsym on November 09, 2012, 03:21:36 AM
But this sort of thing doesn't usually happen for me ;_;
Then you, my friend, are eons beyond me as a STG player. Lunatic 1ccs are doable for me given enough tries. Key phrase: "enough tries". Consistency is something I doubt I'll ever have :(.

You didn't practice stages with SanaeA before trying to 1cc with her? You're one brave dude.
Well I didn't have them unlocked yet (except for stages 1 and 2). I don't particularly like opening stages with a save file unless I've at least seen them first. The only exception I have to that rule is stage 6. Needing to 1cc the game/beat the final boss with 2/2 to unlock it? Now that's BS given how many more patterns end bosses have compared to earlier ones, plus they all have a very nasty final card (with the exception of Miko. Poor Miko... Got completely shafted.)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: K.B. on November 09, 2012, 04:40:22 AM
To be consistent at shmups, you have to be bad at hitting bullets.

We're simply too good.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: I have no name on November 09, 2012, 04:41:47 AM
Then you, my friend, are eons beyond me as a STG player. Lunatic 1ccs are doable for me given enough tries. Key phrase: "enough tries". Consistency is something I doubt I'll ever have :(.
Well I can sit down and clear 3 of the lunatics in 1 try consistently, maybe EoSD and PoFV too by now.  Outside of those games my consistency at clearing is crap.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sungho on November 09, 2012, 05:00:48 AM
I've heard a saying 'I've yet to see someone who can outsmart bullet', but then it was a different genre.

I just don't get this Murasa Minamitsu. Actually, th12 itself and the games beyond is a problem.
Why do these bosses like to run away from me?
They must have some good AI to keep running away from me. (I think it's called PRNG or something)
Good thing Stage 5 and 6 bosses at least have fixed movements.
Except for 'Aura of Justice'. I swear that I've timed out this card about 30% of the time just because of that AI.
I play th12 on Hard diffculty right now.

At least it's better than that Remilia. I actually saw the timer reach 30 in Scarlet Gensokyo even when I was shooting non-stop.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Cor on November 09, 2012, 05:03:59 AM
It's actually safer to time AoJ out since the bullets are less dense on the side she's not on. Murasa can be a bit of a dick with her RNG, though.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on November 09, 2012, 11:32:27 AM
consistency, bahahaha xD that's a good joke. one day, I play like I just started (I.E yesterday) and on others, I play as though I was actually good :v (i.e when I threw out 4 perfects in one day). I doubt it's something I'll ever have.

I have the same problem with Aura of Justice. so ridiculous. Every time I try to chase Shou, she just runs into the opposite direction. I've stopped chasing her, really. if she gets in my line of shot, I shoot her, if not, that's fine with me, too.

murasa's sort of predictable, though. sinkable vortex for example: 75% of the time she first goes left. then mostly right, left left and if you're ReimuA with full power, the card's over by then. But that may just be me.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Yatakarasu on November 09, 2012, 07:46:28 PM
Welcome to my world. Consistency? Ha! That's funny.
OH! OH! Me me!
Some of my best runs are my very first runs of the day (save for PoFV). I just get worse and worse from there. So if anything, I'm consistently bad. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on November 10, 2012, 12:49:02 AM
One hour. One fucking hour and could not even get a single NMNB Stage 4 run in Mountain of Faith.

Fucking trash. Fuck Momiji and fuck Aya. Stop rolling dice you cuntheads! It's so annoying. Only hard part about MoF but it's gotta be a real bitch. Figures.

Peerless Wind God and Momiji. How much practice does those two need before you can do it with some degree of consistency? It's annoying the hell out of me because I could probably go for a NMNB clear of the game but those two bitches would keep stopping me. As pretty much the only thing.

Dammit.  :(
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Tsym on November 10, 2012, 01:18:10 AM
God damn it me. I hate knowing that I definitely CAN get this 1cc, but I keep on making retarded mistakes that prevent it from happening. Like what the hell? My last three attempts all died because I died multiple times to midboss Ichirin's non-spell. That's just pathetic. It's easy. How can that be where I'm failing? And obviously the second I think I got it again, I mess up another place. Kogasa's penultimate card? Yeah screw you. Bullets flying out of every which place, can barely keep track of it. Damn it it's so easy, but I keep on getting blindsided.

It's always something...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Cor on November 10, 2012, 07:03:20 AM
Hrrgh. This marks the fifth hour I've been running stage 6 just for a try at surviving Byakuren's second non-spell once. Just once. Why must I be so goddamn terrible? Good lord, I need to get checked for learning disabilities. Either I'm doing it in a retarded way, which doesn't seem to be the case, or I'm simply a retard because I keep taking hits from things way before I even notice their existence. I deserve a kick in the nuts, maybe it'll break my skill cap.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Chuckolator on November 10, 2012, 08:47:10 AM
Hrrgh. This marks the fifth hour I've been running stage 6 just for a try at surviving Byakuren's second non-spell once. Just once. Why must I be so goddamn terrible? Good lord, I need to get checked for learning disabilities. Either I'm doing it in a retarded way, which doesn't seem to be the case, or I'm simply a retard because I keep taking hits from things way before I even notice their existence. I deserve a kick in the nuts, maybe it'll break my skill cap.
Are you doing it the "normal" way (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJaMbGVLeAo&t=123) or the way I did (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKscXCRcm_g&t=150)? Some people, like me, can excel at one and simply crash and burn at the other. If you're only trying one, try the other and see if you do any better.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Cor on November 10, 2012, 10:30:24 AM
Okay, that was just impossible of a different, sourer flavor. Maybe I'm just not meant to pass it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: chum on November 10, 2012, 10:32:12 AM
I feel just worthless at these games. No matter what I try I just cannot seem to do anything right. I've been score running GFW Hard A-2 for hours and still cannot beat my pathetic 61 million score, even though I've learned more methods, I should be beating that score by now but I just can't. It all spirals out of control at midboss Star. I use bombs that don't even freeze anything. I can't do the second stage correctly at all, I'm almost 10 million behind when I finish it. I finish off the bosses too early. I don't freeze well enough. I run into bullets I should not be running into. My last run finished with only 600 motivation ffs.

It is too much, just too much but I have made up my mind that I will do this route properly one of these days. The worst thing is that I can't even play the other games properly either, been trying for a NMNB Sakuya fight and if It's not the nons that kill me then you can bet that Killing Doll will ruin the day, everyday. 4 Runs lost there so far and I bet I'll keep losing and losing and losing because I just can't cope with that spell. But the worst part is when I get killed by the very first wave of the very first non and I have to redo that piece of shit stage over and over.

It's too much, so I tried my hand at a NMNB Remilia and... I fucked up Meister. If I hadn't fucked up Meister than I might have done it. Gensokyo RNG was damn good, It's such a waste. Why can't my brain just understand that you're not supposed to corner yourself at Meister? Why didn't I move right instead of left? Why am I such a fuck-up at everything I try to do? I bet the next 10 times I capture Meister (lol yeah right) that I will die to Gensokyo right after. Possibly to the very first wave.  Damn it all, I wish I didn't suck so bad.

Typing that felt good, though :D
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on November 10, 2012, 10:37:03 AM
I bet the next 10 times I capture Meister (lol yeah right) that I will die to Gensokyo right after. Possibly to the very first wave.  Damn it all, I wish I didn't suck so bad.
Never ever think this.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on November 10, 2012, 01:48:44 PM
so sad. failed genetic of subconsciousness and only managed to get a 1DNB extra :V

similarly did I die to SA, thus giving me a 1DNB stage 6. both of them were soooooooooo close. damnit. it will take another 20 attempts to not die to either okuu's 1st and 2nd spellcards (or the 2nd non for that matter, killed me so often, too :V). but soon. both of them...soon.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Tsym on November 10, 2012, 04:35:08 PM
Ugh that's it. I'm taking a week break from Touhou. This is just getting ridiculous. I can't concentrate when I load myself up with all these expectations and fear of making just a few mistakes, because it'll snowball up from there. This isn't really relaxing anymore. Now it's just something else to worry about on top of things that, although I don't need to do immediately, it'll be a load off my mind if I just get them done. So sod it UFO. Take your 1cc and shove it. I'll be back for you with a clear mind.

Oh, and if anyone wants a good laugh/face palm, I've attached a few replays for your amusement. Enjoy watching myself making stupid mistakes and whatnot. See everyone in a week!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Wriggle on November 10, 2012, 07:01:51 PM
Fuck you Mokou. No, fuck me, it's my fucking fault. The better I do, the worst will be my fail at Possessed by Phoenix and Hourai Doll. Like, what the fuck? A while ago I could potentially reach 1.8 bi with Reimu, but died to Possessed by Phoenix and died TWICE to Hourai Doll. These two crap are almost static, what the fuck is wrong with me? Why do I keep sucking at this game? :barf:

K, done releasing 20% of my anger, but I'll fill this post with more shit anyway. I have to stop playing Touhou. Like really. All I wanted was to get 3 Lunatics before 1 year of playing it. That said year isn't even over yet, and I've got 5 Lunatics, yet 1 (or 2, depending of the point of view) Perfect Extra. But this game is frustrating me more than making me happy. But I just can't stop playing it, no matter how many times I try. In one or two days I find myself playing it again. I need to get a life. But I keep fucking myself here. Maybe I'll have will enough once the first year is over (though I don't even know the exact day of it :V), and it'd be the great day when Wrig stopped with her pointless masochism (wut) and got a life. Or still has no life, but in a better way. Yeah that's it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Delfigamer on November 11, 2012, 10:33:18 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zbhe6wZzgf8
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on November 11, 2012, 03:06:26 PM
failed more runs than I should have in SA extra. especially horrible are all the deaths against genetics of subconscious. how do I keep getting hit here? that's pretty darn weird and should never happen under any circumstances.

also didn't manage to do anything in GFW extra. no run even reached marisa :V also failed miko's fourth non. like, what?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Elysia on November 11, 2012, 08:18:20 PM
(http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad256/Malkyrian/raeg.png)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Validon98 on November 11, 2012, 10:13:45 PM
I attempted once again to 1cc Imperishable Night on Hard after a long string of failures. For once, I actually made it to Stage 4 without dying more than once (Keine still hates me). And then I lose three-ish lives to Stage 4. The rest of the run was a complete disaster. I just plain rage quit at Kaguya's second non-spell because I only had one life. Why can't I 1cc a Windows game on Hard?!  >:(
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Oh on November 12, 2012, 02:55:49 AM
Alright, that's it. I'm taking a long break. I've been trying to perfect UFO extra for a while. Just lost one run to rainbow, another to grudge bow (really? Grudge bow? This is the first time i've died on it from when I started attempting...) And MoF LNB attempts are so irratating, I keep screwing up on stage 4.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: ARF on November 12, 2012, 09:33:48 AM
herp derp, just lost a 1.4 billion SA run at Peta Flare after having perfected (as far as my route is concerned) stage 1-3, unfortunate 1 death 2 bomb at macro burst (after having timed it out perfectly in practice right before). I even missed some ravens and stuff in Stage 6 so I guess 1.5 billions is realistic without altering my route, not really expecting that though.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Chalros22 on November 12, 2012, 02:28:58 PM
And here I sit, happy if I can make it past Koakuma on Normal without getting myself killed...

Seriously, I feel inferior....

I would say we were all there once, but a few of these guys probably weren't because of other shmup bnackground. You'll improve, the curve is pretty steep to start though, I know it was for me.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: I have no name on November 12, 2012, 03:37:06 PM
I would say we were all there once, but a few of these guys probably weren't because of other shmup bnackground. You'll improve, the curve is pretty steep to start though, I know it was for me.
Hey I remember there was a time when I was psyched to have beaten IN EASY.  Now I'm shooting for UFO lunatic.  You'll get there, just keep at it. :)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Seppo Hovi on November 12, 2012, 04:04:53 PM
I still get psyched up from almost every IN easy run of mine.      ヘ(;?Д`ヘ)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Ranko Hoshino on November 12, 2012, 05:09:10 PM
NDNB IN Easy is still a thing for me. Even if it's Easy, it's still fun as well. :3
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: I have no name on November 13, 2012, 12:17:34 AM
SA ultra hard stage 6 is...surprisingly doable.  I entered the stage with 3/5 of a life and made it all the way to 3/5 of the way through Subterranean Sun.  All I need to do is only die twice in Stage 3, not die at the end of Satori again and not derp horribly on Orin.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on November 13, 2012, 01:02:51 AM
Tried a few pacifist runs against Ichirin. Flawlessly timed everything out except for the 3rd non-spell on which i died at the last possible moment. How fucking stupid is that?  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Wriggle on November 13, 2012, 04:12:24 AM
Just tried no-shooting on Koishi, and got game over at Subterranean Rose after ~20 seconds, even though it was the first wave. Somehow I'm not very pissed at that. Rorschach is a bitch.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Yatakarasu on November 13, 2012, 04:14:40 AM
What the fuck? I managed to lose 3 lives on Murasa (I was trying out Marisa A) and then game over even before her last card. Seriously?

Then I failed at Hard to make me feel better.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Seppo Hovi on November 13, 2012, 11:22:22 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/fxDmE.png)

First time getting to face Eiki four times with these conditions, and I obviously panic during the final round and be an idiot and ram into bullets at stupid moments.

...
Shit.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Oh on November 13, 2012, 04:02:52 PM
6 extra fucking lives going into Sakuya, Game over on Young Demon Lord...
Fuck ReimuA and her shit power.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on November 13, 2012, 06:51:02 PM
@Seppo: I hope you're not using Youmu for the AI, because as far as I know she's pretty bad! (though someone like Zil who knows shit about this game is free to correct me here)
@Oh: NoBombs? That's harsh no matter how you look at it. ReimuA's power can only wrong you so much when you're on tilt anyway. :(
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: fsvgm777 on November 13, 2012, 08:10:59 PM
So, I was playing PoDD Normal with Ellen. I had 0 lives remaining and 1 heart of health left (same as Yumemi at that time). Then, a stupid small fly flies at the front of my screen. I get distracted (because I tried to chase it away) and get hit twice in a row due to that. Game over.

The worst part? I got over 30 million points.

This is one of the reasons why I absolutely hate getting distracted by anything, especially flies.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Wriggle on November 13, 2012, 09:45:26 PM
Reminds of when I was trying to time out Mishaguji-sama while getting to the last phase the fastest way possible using Marisa-Bug, and then an ant comes out of nowhere and starts walking on my screen. I took just a while to fuck up.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: K.B. on November 13, 2012, 10:23:00 PM
Shit.
You're almost there!
@Seppo: I hope you're not using Youmu for the AI
As his conditions are no-focus and no-charge (along with constantly shooting for no sane reason), I think he's using her for optimal silliness.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Seppo Hovi on November 14, 2012, 12:24:54 AM
I use Youmu since I usually play her when I play PvP.

And Youmu is the best 2hu.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on November 14, 2012, 09:23:02 AM
As his conditions are no-focus and no-charge (along with constantly shooting for no sane reason), I think he's using her for optimal silliness.
Oh okay then. &_&
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Oh on November 14, 2012, 04:23:36 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/cgjcR.jpg?1)
How are you supposed to do Patchy as MarisaA? I died on 4 of her 5 spells (6 deaths in total on stage 4). I have the feeling that I'd get the clear if I pull off a good Patchy fight or something.

e: (http://i.imgur.com/ZDmzb.jpg?1)
So I decide to do a "legit"(no intentionally broken borders) with MarisaA. Horrible. Horrible Yuyuko. I get so nervous going in with only one miss. I failed her opener, third non, that streaming spell, and that spell after it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: chum on November 14, 2012, 07:24:22 PM
1M0B Shou. Dead to second non.

These two pictures should illustrate how stupid that death was.

(http://i.imgur.com/3m27z.png)

I'm safe, right? I dodged it... Shou has hardly any health left, just finish off the non and cruise to victory, the rest of her spells aren't hard.

(http://i.imgur.com/TjQ8i.png)

...Oh.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Chuckolator on November 14, 2012, 09:12:38 PM
1M0B Shou. Dead to second non.

These two pictures should illustrate how stupid that death was.

(http://i.imgur.com/3m27z.png)

I'm safe, right? I dodged it... Shou has hardly any health left, just finish off the non and cruise to victory, the rest of her spells aren't hard.

(http://i.imgur.com/TjQ8i.png)

...Oh.
Ouch, that sucks, and on Shou of all bosses. That's why I always ragequit after things like that, so I never know if I would have gone on to perfect it. <_<

edit: I can't get past 3 pictures in StB 9-1 no focus. It's fun though.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Chuckolator on November 15, 2012, 01:18:45 AM
I, for one, blame everyone else on MotK for not raging in the last 4 hours.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: chum on November 15, 2012, 01:49:45 AM
Quote from: Seiga Kaku
Ouch, that sucks, and on Shou of all bosses. That's why I always ragequit after things like that, so I never know if I would have gone on to perfect it. <_<

I'm a bit conflicted when it comes to this. It's a mood thing, sometimes I'll reset, other times I'll keep going just to "make something out of the attempt" or just for the hell of it. It's kind of a bad feeling though, like how I've captured Killing Doll plenty of times in full runs or when dicking around, but never in an actual NMNB attempt...

Complete Clarification seems like it could hurt a lot when I'm nervous. I hope I won't fail there too much during attempts  :ohdear:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zil on November 15, 2012, 04:59:09 AM
(http://oi50.tinypic.com/2zylngw.jpg)

That's the last time I lose ten chains in a single PoFV run to this fucking thing.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: chirpy13 on November 15, 2012, 05:26:32 AM
Wow, LLS Marisa's a cheating son of a bitch on Lunatic.  Random attack cycle, random movement, continues attacking but with a completely different attack when you destroy her orreries, and some of her phases are flat-out impossible to dodge depending on where she is on the screen when she decides to use them.  Bad design, ZUN!! =|

EDIT: You would. (http://i.imgur.com/QkunF.png)
EDIT2: ^That happened again.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Cor on November 15, 2012, 06:17:13 AM
I just barely (1/2) cleared UFO Lunatic with MarisaA, my second-best shot. I felt super odd during the run. I just wasn't into the game, felt like I was sitting wrong, looking at the screen wrong, my eyes were all over the screen and I sporadically kept forgetting how to do parts of the game halfway into the run. Weird. Maybe I should look into getting back into RuneScape. I do have the sniffles, but it sure shouldn't do this to me.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Chalros22 on November 15, 2012, 01:52:35 PM
This isn't SA, how do you have so many graze points? :P

9000 isn't really that many I dont think. I just checked a few various WR's on different games including PCB and these were the amounts of graze.

EoSD: at least 25k. I didn't watch this one, but I can remember the least the thousands digit on each level since it resets on each stage.
PCB: 26k, with 10k of it on Yuyuko.
I didnt count IN because graze is calculated weird
MoF doesnt have a counter.
SA: just under 90k
UFO: 114k
I didnt bother checking TD.

So yeah, 9k isn't that much lol. As a reference, my first Lunatic 1cc of PCB had about 4700 graze, and I was running in terror from bullets, not trying to graze them for score, at least for the most part.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: RNG on November 15, 2012, 07:16:03 PM
I just barely (1/2) cleared UFO Lunatic with MarisaA, my second-best shot. I felt super odd during the run. I just wasn't into the game, felt like I was sitting wrong, looking at the screen wrong, my eyes were all over the screen and I sporadically kept forgetting how to do parts of the game halfway into the run. Weird. Maybe I should look into getting back into RuneScape. I do have the sniffles, but it sure shouldn't do this to me.

NOOOO keep playing shmups. If you get tired of UFO move on to another one. Works for me.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on November 16, 2012, 05:18:14 AM
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaa


in migrating to my new computer I've managed to roll back ALL MY TOUHOU SAVE FILES A YEAAAAAARRRRRRRRRR

1.7 Billion IN Extra: Gone
300 Million SA Lunatic: Gone
600 Million PCB Lunatic: Gone
992 Million PCB Normal: Gone


:colonveeplusalpha:
:fail:
:V
:colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Delfigamer on November 16, 2012, 09:41:00 AM
Now I'm fffrustrated with the Mystery of Disco Fish. How the hell she aims her fishes in DS 10-2? (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=25290)

After ~30 tries I finally managed to do this (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=25291). I wonder if I'll see her danmaku in my next nighmare. -_-
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Wriggle on November 16, 2012, 03:48:54 PM
Yesterday I died TWICE to Superego, but perfected the whole rest of the battle. How the fuck...? And also failed miserably to both Embers of Love and Genectics of the Subconcious with Reimu-C, who should be pretty optimal due to the aimable shot.

Oh and fought Yukari with the laptop on my legs. :V Did 12/13, but still kinda a fail because I failed in her second card, that is almost trivial.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: I have no name on November 16, 2012, 04:10:12 PM
Now I'm fffrustrated with the Mystery of Disco Fish. How the hell she aims her fishes in DS 10-2? (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=25290)
They're aimed at your position at the sound effect of the set being fired.  Just be at the same part of the pattern of the lattice you were in when they were fired and they miss.  Good job on getting it without this though.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Yatakarasu on November 16, 2012, 08:03:46 PM
Asdfjasdlfkjsdfl So much for that lunatic attempt. I hate the AI in PoFV so much. I wish I saved that replay because Aya was being ridiculous, lost 2 lives to her.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Reiko on November 16, 2012, 11:36:15 PM
IN Lunatic:
> first death in stage 1, tons of deathbombs, game over in stage 4.

SA Hard, MarisaA:
> game over at Yuugi.

PoFV Hard, Reisen edition:
> 2 deaths to stage 7, game over before even reaching Shikieiki

UFO normal, MarisaA:
> max lives after Murasa
> dies/bombs everything else, game over at last spell as usual

And so on, and so on.
I won't even comment on how bad I did when I tried other shooting games.
It feels like I'm not getting any better at anything. I'm still struggling to things I cleared months ago...

On the fun side : I tried scoring in PCB normal and got a lower score than at my first 1cc with the same character  :V

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaa


in migrating to my new computer I've managed to roll back ALL MY TOUHOU SAVE FILES A YEAAAAAARRRRRRRRRR
Oh man, that really sucks...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on November 16, 2012, 11:50:05 PM
It feels like I'm not getting any better at anything. I'm still struggling to things I cleared months ago...

well, let me tell you this. my first hard clear was EoSD. my second hard clear was PCB; like 1 year later. it also took me 1 1/2 to ever clear EoSD again.

similarly with lunatic. my first 1cc was TD in december 2011, my second was in july. don't feel bad about not being able to clear things in fast succession at first.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Ridley 64 on November 16, 2012, 11:56:11 PM
*game overs at beginning of Stage 5, continue-spams to try and unlock for practice*

*never gets to Shou with more than one life*

*makes it past RTG once, game overs to Vajra*


...I don't know...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Tsym on November 17, 2012, 07:13:48 AM
Well I came back after a week... And what do you know? Nothing's changed. Well damn. Also after a few more attempts at the Lunatic clear, I've now officially clocked in more attempts at this as SanaeA than SanaeB. Woohoo? I kind of get the feeling that my biggest barrier is stage 1. I mean I'm just looking at the spell card histories and... well damn.

Times Used - 257 (Total) - 17 (Easy + Normal + Hard) = 240 (Lunatic)
Busy Rod - 65/90 | 37.5% of runs make it here
Gold Detector - 35/54 | 60% of runs make it past the previous card
Pendulum Guard - 35/45 | 80% of runs make it past the previous card
Hello Forgotten World - 22/36 | 80% of runs make it past the previous card
PSM - 1/32 | 89% of runs make it past the previous card
Kogasa Final - 3/31
...
King Kraken Strike - 4/20 | 64.5% of runs make it past the previous card
Ichirin Final - 4/18
...
Sinking Anchor - 15/15 | 83% of runs make it past the previous card
Dipper Creeping Close - 8/15
...
RTG - 0/14 | 93% of runs make it past the previous card
CC - 1/10
Cloudy Way in Purple - 0/4 | 40% of runs make it past the previous card
LFS - 0/1

Is this normal or am I just terrible at stage 1/restarting too much? Aside from stage 1, the only two glaring points are from Shou to Byakuren (probably due to stage 5 practice) and from stage 2 to stage 3 (I really have no idea why this is so lop-sided. Perhaps it's due to the circling bit before Ichirin? I dunno). But I can definitely feel stage 1 sapping my soul, while everything else feels rather tame by comparison.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Cor on November 17, 2012, 07:51:47 AM
Stage 1 is a shit. At least was for me, for whatever it's worth. If in doubt of your skill, just compare to me. Works any time.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Chuckolator on November 17, 2012, 08:38:08 AM
UFO Stage 1 is best run
90FPS
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Chalros22 on November 17, 2012, 10:06:36 AM
It feels like I'm not getting any better at anything. I'm still struggling to things I cleared months ago...

Take a break then. I took like a month and a half off from trying to clear anything difficult and tried some stuff on normal with extra conditions. When I finally said wtf I'll try lunatic again, I cleared IN, PCB and TD for the first time each in like a week and a half. Of course, my next lunatic was today (LLS) about 3 months later, but I have made improvements in the other ones. The thing I mainyl did recently to increase my skills was to try to do a lot of no bomb runs on extras and no bomb no focus on normals. Sometimes I think it's best if people take a break from increasing the difficulty mechanically and do it more "artificially" by imposing conditions on each run. It still results in a sense of achievement on completion and helps develop skills as well. Especially no focus PCB since a few of the shot types are ridiculously weak unfocused (SakuyaA, illusion laser) compared to focused.

If UFO is giving you trouble, do some stage practice and work on Shou's nonspells. That's what gave me the most trouble when I first tried to do normal. That and Vajra. the rest isn't so bad.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on November 17, 2012, 11:10:59 AM
UFO Stage 1 is best run
90FPS

It's unfortunate that you can't change the framerate for the game on certain parts of the game only. Stage 1 at 90FPS is great fun yeah. That stage could benefit greatly from a 50% increase in bullet speed.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Jaimers on November 17, 2012, 02:32:56 PM
It's unfortunate that you can't change the framerate for the game on certain parts of the game only.

You can actually.

Cheatengine
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on November 17, 2012, 04:28:19 PM
Maybe.  :V I haven't used that program much at all since it for some reason won't let me run with my alternate key-bindings while using it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: K.B. on November 17, 2012, 04:38:25 PM
Past Busy Rod: 28%
To the start of stage 2: 10%
To the start of stage 3: 4%
To the start of stage 4: 1%

Tsym, you are a padawan at restarting.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on November 17, 2012, 07:01:38 PM
who else knows this!?

game of rising spell practice: 30/34
in actual runs: 20/58 (or something like that

apollo 13 spell practice: 27/53
Actual runs: 5/30

astronomical entombing spell practice: 20/46
in actual runs: 2/26

well, fuck you eirin.

genealogy and omoikane's brain are pretty similar, though. and I don't mind earth in a pot since I've gotten a lot better at it through many failures in actual runs, but still, FUUUUUUUUUUUU
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on November 17, 2012, 07:15:27 PM
Typically, when I go from practice to full runs, my performance isn't quite as high. I can easily imagine the same concept applying to going from Spell Practice to actual runs.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on November 17, 2012, 07:37:58 PM
Spell Practice -- > Practice / Actual Runs -- Always a horrible transition.

Practice --> Actual Runs -- I usually do better here because :focus:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: LadyScarlet on November 17, 2012, 07:52:43 PM
Having a pretty good run of IN Stage 4A when suddenly...
Dad: "Rachel! I need you for an hour or two!"
 :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Reiko on November 17, 2012, 08:50:01 PM
Thanks for the advice, guys !
I guess I shouldn't be too impatient and just take things as they come.

Just tried it, and no bombs normal runs are way more fun than I thought. EoSD should be possible, probably PCB and IN too (and maybe TD).

On topic : 2 deaths to Sakuya's last spell on normal  :o
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Bang Jan on November 17, 2012, 09:28:44 PM
Why does Orin's last nonspell love killing me in every run I do? :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Validon98 on November 17, 2012, 11:57:45 PM
Why does Orin's last nonspell love killing me in every run I do? :colonveeplusalpha:

Because it's a bullshit nonspell, regardless of difficulty.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Wriggle on November 18, 2012, 01:40:37 AM
I think I just found out I can't play as Marisa in any game anymore. Is Reimu's speed that different or do I suck enough to lose all my dodging skill after a small change of speed, even on focus? What a shit.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Chalros22 on November 18, 2012, 03:06:17 AM
who else knows this!?

game of rising spell practice: 30/34
in actual runs: 20/58 (or something like that

apollo 13 spell practice: 27/53
Actual runs: 5/30

astronomical entombing spell practice: 20/46
in actual runs: 2/26

well, fuck you eirin.

genealogy and omoikane's brain are pretty similar, though. and I don't mind earth in a pot since I've gotten a lot better at it through many failures in actual runs, but still, FUUUUUUUUUUUU

Omoikane's brain can go die in a fire. I captured it on lunatic once in spell practice and I still can't do it on hard. I mean seriously ZUN wtf?

I think I just found out I can't play as Marisa in any game anymore. Is Reimu's speed that different or do I suck enough to lose all my dodging skill after a small change of speed, even on focus? What a shit.

I think for people who only use Reimu, Marisa is weird mostly because she is faster unfocused but slower( i'm pretty sure) focused. You mostly expect to have a proportional decrease in speed but it's a much steeper change. Also Marisa has a bigger hitbox, exaggerating the slow focused speed.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zil on November 18, 2012, 03:48:49 AM
No, her focused speed is faster than Reimu's. I think the reason many people have that experience (what Wriggle just mentioned) is because of her hitbox rather than the speed. You can adjust to the speed difference after playing for a bit, but the hitbox takes a long time to get used to. Try using her in EoSD if you want to be sure, I guess.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Wriggle on November 18, 2012, 04:01:40 AM
Uh, I thought Reimu only had a smaller hitbox at PCB, IN and TD... and in EoSD the things gets worse because she's way too fast there. But in SA... idk, she feels "heavy" when I'm focused. Same with Reimu-C, but it's mostly because of her weird familiars (that somehow affects my dodging), and because I can't really unfocus comfortably because she'll aim god-knows-where. But yeah, I use Reimu in pretty much any game except IN where I use Ghost team very often (but Border for Lunatic because they're easy to use), UFO (Sanae-B all the way) and TD when I occasionally use Sanae, but 70% of the time I do use Reimu. (and the "Marisa" thing doesn't happen to Sanae for me)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Bang Jan on November 18, 2012, 10:57:20 AM
Lost a perfect Orin fight to the LAST SECOND of Small Demons Revival.

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on November 18, 2012, 11:13:01 AM
Welcome to Orin. Get used to her.

I'm pretty sure Nindel can back this statement up too. Her final attack can seriously be a butt. Probably her hardest because of how unreliable it is.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Yatakarasu on November 18, 2012, 11:58:35 AM
I find her last spell pretty fun (well at least on normal), but a complete bitch.
Now if we were talking Okuu's first card, then you would have all my rage.

In other news, Ichirin finds new ways to kill me each time I fight her. She ran into me during "Fist Smash." Must be her revenge for me thinking she's the worst UFO cast member. Worst is harsh....most boring? Yeah, most boring.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Nindella on November 18, 2012, 01:02:41 PM
Failed SA LNB with MarisaB cause I can't stream Utsuho's 2nd non properly, doh!  :derp:


Well now I failed the run at Peta Flare after going into Utsuho with 5 lives.   The previous runs I can accept gaming over cause I had only 1-2 lives, but going in with 5 lives?!  God Dammit!!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Limian on November 18, 2012, 03:35:49 PM
Failed a SakuyaB normal 1cc on PCB at less than 20 seconds remaining with three bombs in stock.
Considering I reached stage 6 with one extra life remaining, that's a good thing.
Considering I reached stage 6 with only one extra life remaining, that's also a bad thing.
I blame Merlin and Youmu.

Also I'm failing terribly at SA extra. I've seen Sanae's first spell as often as Keine's or Kanako's. The difference: I beat Mokou and Suwako, but only reached Danmaku Paranoia ...twice.
I hope this is somewhat normal as the SA extend system doesn't suit extra stages very well.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Wriggle on November 18, 2012, 06:04:08 PM
Failed a SakuyaB normal 1cc on PCB at less than 20 seconds remaining with three bombs in stock.
Considering I reached stage 6 with one extra life remaining, that's a good thing.
Considering I reached stage 6 with only one extra life remaining, that's also a bad thing.
I blame Merlin and Youmu.

Also I'm failing terribly at SA extra. I've seen Sanae's first spell as often as Keine's or Kanako's. The difference: I beat Mokou and Suwako, but only reached Danmaku Paranoia ...twice.
I hope this is somewhat normal as the SA extend system doesn't suit extra stages very well.

SA's Extend system is pretty lame. Sanae doesn't give an 1up, but only 3 parts. And if you die in Sanae or Koishi (except for Sub Rose), you won't just lose that life, but will also be unable to get all possible extends, meaning you'd effectively lose 2 lives if you were going for score. Basically the  more you need or depend on lives, the less you'll have.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: I have no name on November 18, 2012, 08:17:35 PM
1DNB Patchy again  :V

This time was a double KO to Emerald Megalith as opposed to a derp to Mercury Poison.  Time to add Patchy to the list of bosses I should have perfected but haven't yet (Patchy, Sakuya, Flandre, Alice, Youmu, Keine, Reimu, Marisa, Kanako, Satori, Utsuho, Kogasa, Nue, Seiga)
Yeah the list in parentheses is my list of lunatic bosses I've 1DNB'd so far.  14.  and I only have like 30 perfects to go so half  :flamingv:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: nintendonut888 on November 18, 2012, 08:20:10 PM
Hah hah hah. PCB stage 3 lunatic, Marisa A. Anyone who's played that stage with that shot type knows how difficult the second half of the stage is with her. I clear that without getting hit, and perfect Alice. But it's not a perfect because I did a very non-sensical mistake on the first half of the stage and died on the easy part. Almost perfect, but not quite...it's always the same with me. ;D
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on November 18, 2012, 08:21:45 PM
1DNB Patchy again  :V

This time was a double KO to Emerald Megalith as opposed to a derp to Mercury Poison.  Time to add Patchy to the list of bosses I should have perfected but haven't yet (Patchy, Sakuya, Flandre, Alice, Youmu, Keine, Reimu, Marisa, Kanako, Satori, Utsuho, Kogasa, Nue, Seiga)
Yeah the list in parentheses is my list of lunatic bosses I've 1DNB'd so far.  14.  and I only have like 30 perfects to go so half  :flamingv:
Mmm, nope, sorry, you have no right to complain until you choke to the final seconds of Perfect Remilia (twice).
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: I have no name on November 18, 2012, 08:25:46 PM
Mmm, nope, sorry, you have no right to complain until you choke to the final seconds of Perfect Remilia (twice).
Mmm, nope, sorry, I think I can complain about being so close on so many bosses.  Also no I'm not going for Remilia yet I have other things that I do.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Yatakarasu on November 19, 2012, 03:42:02 PM
Remember when I said Ichirin finds a new way to kill me each time I fight her, cause it was only a few posts up. Well, just got a double KO on her. :I
 
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on November 19, 2012, 04:08:44 PM
IHNN doing a 1DNB run or two against a boss doesn't mean you're close. I can't imagine you can capture EoSD stage 4 books consistently, and even if you get past them, patchouli can still be a beast depending on who you use. I would be careful in shouting out "I'm close perfecting these bosses", just because you managed to only die once.

personal experience and such. ichirin and aya were great examples. had TONS of 1DNB runs of them, but it still took me forever, despite utter and crazy dedication (on aya, anyways). I'm sure you can do most of these bosses relatively quick, seeing how I have done more than half of those myself, but others will still take a while to perfect, even if you had good runs before. (looking and patchy and satori, for instance).

on a side note, while lying in a clinical room for 45 minutes, you have a lot of time to think, and I noticed that with a few exceptions (like 4, 5 if I cared to), all regular stages left are monsters. I can do miko, youmu, kogasa (also reisen, but she's the master of cheap tricks and boring spellcards, so duh. and reimu's last word is bullshit. easy as that, not doing that stage, only to fail 50 runs to that last attack that doesn't even take a life off you :V) but after those 3 (5), all I have left are either stages like PCB stage 4, so utterly boring and not even worth my time to learn them; or things like UFO stage 5, GFW extra, IN stage 6B, SA stage 4 + 5 etc etc. Each and everyone of them is going to look great once they're finished, but...the process of getting there will require a lot of...time. all of my pain. (not counting IN and TD extra. I think I could do those relatively quickly, too. With some practice)

I will probably call bullshit more than on one occasion, to be honest. calling it now :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: I have no name on November 19, 2012, 05:30:04 PM
IHNN doing a 1DNB run or two against a boss doesn't mean you're close. I can't imagine you can capture EoSD stage 4 books consistently, and even if you get past them, patchouli can still be a beast depending on who you use. I would be careful in shouting out "I'm close perfecting these bosses", just because you managed to only die once.
run or two?  Who says it's only 2?  Most of those either stupid death 1DNBs or 4+.
Also I'm not caring about the stage parts except on extra stages so I don't need to worry about the books.

Also, Kanako is a matter of getting her first nonspell and 4th spell in the same run.  Everything else I'm very consistent at capturing.  Seiga is a matter of not derping.  Utsuho is the one on that list I'm the least close to I'd say, especially since I'm out of practice.

Also, from my experience only Sakuya is holding me up for a ton of 1DNB fights, Aya was pretty quick, Ichirin I haven't really tried for yet (note that she's not on my list), Reisen took a while to not screw up the 3rd spell (I had forgotten how to do it), Futo was 3 tries, Yoshika was 1 (Kyouko took like 5 or something), Keine was about 4...the list goes on.  I've tended to get these things pretty quickly (Ran taking 2 is a perfect example).

That and my 1DNB Flandre was a wall on Kagome kagome and my 1DNB Nue was a derp to the 3rd nonspell so I think I'm reasonably consistent at them (though I expect some QED failures)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Tsym on November 20, 2012, 04:00:28 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/mIqC3.jpg)
AHHH NOOOOOOOOOOO!!! You know what really sucks that this picture doesn't convey? I lost a life to Byakuren's OPENER. WITH 2 BOMBS. Why. Why me... My first time getting to Byakuren with like 5/1, and I manage to pull this crap. Grrrrrrrrr.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Yatakarasu on November 20, 2012, 12:42:20 PM
God dammmmit, Reimu!!!! Decided to do a PoFV extra run with Shiki (cause I haven't cleared it with her yet), and got all the way to Reimu with 2 extra lives. Lost those two and was on my last life. I was gonna get another one if I survived for a bit. BUT! Reimu decided to fire off two spells at the very beginning of the fight and I didn't notice, so she pushed me into the corner and killed me. I would also like to add, that during one of my lives, I only had about 10 seconds left on the timer. Fuuuuuuuuuuuck!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on November 20, 2012, 09:47:08 PM
Mokou. You suck.

(http://i.imgur.com/3mbGG.png)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Goldom on November 20, 2012, 11:19:07 PM
Oh yeah.

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Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: RNG on November 21, 2012, 12:15:31 AM
I did 56 tries and got to the end wave once :V

I need to stop trying to supergraze the rings .ASP style.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on November 21, 2012, 12:51:07 AM
why the fuck are you guys even complaining?

(http://www.abload.de/img/unbenanntbmo9n.jpg)

and I want to perfect that stage soonish. x)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: LadyScarlet on November 21, 2012, 01:23:40 AM
Oh, Koakuma, how I hate you so. I can't get to Patchy without dying or bombing because of your stupid, STUPID pattern. DX
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Validon98 on November 21, 2012, 04:33:48 AM
Mugetsu, why can't I beat you and fight your sister? Why?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Tsym on November 21, 2012, 04:52:03 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/TFcAd.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/M4jDf.jpg)
Oh come on!

First image, died with 2 bombs in stock to Nue.
Second image, died with 2 bombs in stock to Magic Butterfly and Milky Way, and got a supremely unlucky clip to Stage 4 Nue.

Byakuren. Why are you doing this to me? Also, holy crap Milky Way and Devil's Recitation have a ridiculous amount of health. 2 bombs for each? Now that's just plain annoying.

I swear that Byakuren is the only truly hard final boss for me. She has the absolute lowest number of patterns that I can reliably do among any final boss. Most other final bosses are only hard because of one or a few attacks (Remi, Kanako, Okuu, Miko. I would add Yuyuko to that list but I'm not terribly good at her middle few patterns). It's only Byakuren that I can basically only impotently shake my fist at because none of her attacks seem to be safe from the threat of serious clippage. At least with Kaguya you get an absolute metric ton of resources to use, plus it's really only Dragon's Necklace and Life Spring Infinity to worry about, given that you've practiced Hourai Jewel a bit. But Byakuren... God damn it.

The only plus side is that Byakuren as a boss is tons of fun to play against, unlike Kaguya. But it's all so meaningless because I know I'll clip something when I actually do fight her. Ahhhhhhhh!!!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on November 21, 2012, 04:57:41 AM
Is getting steamrolled by LFS like, a rite of passage or something? I literally cannot count how many times I've seen this happen now.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Cor on November 21, 2012, 05:15:53 AM
I don't think it's a rite of passage. It tends to happen to people like dying to last spell cards happens to people. I don't remember having massive problems with it.
First image, died with 2 bombs in stock to Nue.
Nue is the last, biggest middle finger the game gives you right before the final boss. You're probably already starving on power from stage 5 and if you get hit by her you won't get the FULL power item. Your run is fucked from then on. Bad design.

Anyhow, you should try learning to dodge Magic Milky Way. It's her second-easiest card for me, not very cluttered, ~40% capture rate and you can easily see when you're gonna be screwed over and have to bomb. Saving the resources there would help a whole lot 'n' whatnot. DR is not super difficult until the last phase either, when it starts forcing you down. You can skip that phase with a single bomb.

And uh, you shouldn't be facing the glowshit clip attacks like her first spell and second non. I don't know of any other clipping attacks of hers.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: I have no name on November 21, 2012, 05:22:47 AM
Nue is the last, biggest middle finger the game gives you right before the final boss. You're probably already starving on power from stage 5 and if you get hit by her you won't get the FULL power item. Your run is fucked from then on. Bad design.
Not really because you can be like me and stock up on bombs and bomb through Shou, giving a 3/4 power ending to Stage 5: guaranteeing a 4 power Byakuren start.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Tsym on November 21, 2012, 06:06:33 AM
Is getting steamrolled by LFS like, a rite of passage or something? I literally cannot count how many times I've seen this happen now.
It is. Just like getting steamrolled by Scarlet Gensokyo and VoWG is a rite of passage. They're just rather tough cards that cap off a high stress boss fight + run. Because of its length and bomb immunity, you'll find that many runs end up dying here after bombing through everything else. Alas, such is Touhou.

Nue is the last, biggest middle finger the game gives you right before the final boss. You're probably already starving on power from stage 5 and if you get hit by her you won't get the FULL power item. Your run is fucked from then on. Bad design.

Anyhow, you should try learning to dodge Magic Milky Way. It's her second-easiest card for me, not very cluttered, ~40% capture rate and you can easily see when you're gonna be screwed over and have to bomb. Saving the resources there would help a whole lot 'n' whatnot. DR is not super difficult until the last phase either, when it starts forcing you down. You can skip that phase with a single bomb.

And uh, you shouldn't be facing the glowshit clip attacks like her first spell and second non. I don't know of any other clipping attacks of hers.
Eh well. I don't think that going into Byakuren with 2 or 3 power is really that bad. You should have gotten enough bombs during the stage to wreck Cloudy Purple with 1 or 2, and you get 1 power after that, so you're up to either 3 power or max. Now bomb the non-spell after (you better have at least 3 bombs if you came into stage 6 with none), do Magic Butterfly, and you're up to 3.5. Probably die to Milky Way or something and you're down to 3 because of the .5 power that drops. You get 2 bombs, so you'll go into DR with at least 2-3 power, then you get another 1 power after it, bringing you up to 3 or 4, and you're pretty much maxed for LFS. As long as you don't clip something, you won't be that far down.

And it might just be me, but I've almost never had problems with power at the end of stage 5. I rarely go into stage 6 with under 2 power, and the cutoff for pretty much guaranteed 4 power for Byakuren (without dying in the stage) is 2.5 (.4 or so from the opening fairies, at least .1 from the red fairies from Nue, and 1 power afterward if you bombed it). If you go into Shou with 3 power and 2 bombs, you can bomb RTG and her second non-spell, easily do Aura of Justice, clip the non-spell after I guess, bomb Vajra and CC, and you're into stage 6 with at least 2 power; 3 power with only 1 death through Shou.

I actually watched a replay and practiced stage 6 afterward, and found out that I had been doing MMW the wrong way this whole time. I was dodging it near the middle, when it turns out you should be fairly close to Byakuren's face. Made the whole thing much easier. Still has a lot of health though. I haven't gotten used to the blue walls in DR yet. I'm always really scared of them because I'm not good at figuring out where I am relative to the arena they form. I think I've only seen Byakuren's cards maybe 20 or so times, with about 15 of those times in 1ccs (so I bomb away!), so I think it'll come with practice.

PS - I think Superhuman is tons easier than MMW. The only reason I don't have a better capture rate is because it's the penultimate card, so I have a major freak out if I get there :P
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Makedounia on November 21, 2012, 10:02:07 AM
I try to 1cc EoSD with 1 life on normal (I was expecting game over at Sakuya)
I'm surprised I made it to Remilia with 1 life and 3 bombs
Survive all the way to red magic
I'm hit by the big bubbles at the beginning.

= Ragequit & banging my head against the table like a madman
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Byronyello on November 21, 2012, 11:06:28 AM
(http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/1811/guzeflashfail1.png)
Not obvious enough?
(http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/4497/guzeflashfail2.png)
Why? I'm not even on Lunatic >.>
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: ARF on November 21, 2012, 03:12:12 PM
Lost a no horizontal SA Easy on Heaven and Hell meltdown. At least 4 easily preventable deaths happened, 3 of which had boms in stock.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Yatakarasu on November 21, 2012, 05:07:21 PM
I died "Rorschach in Danmaku" in two runs last night. Both times I had bombs in stock. Both of those runs had me game over at "Genetics of the Subconscious," also with bombs in stock.
 :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: LadyScarlet on November 21, 2012, 05:48:55 PM
EoSD Stage 5 practice run. Lost my last life to...
Misdirection.
Yeah.  :colonveeplusalpha:

Also just had my best EoSD Stage 4 practice run. Lost my last life at Sylphae Horn High Level. Yeah, the one that's easier than Princess Undine.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Validon98 on November 21, 2012, 06:17:36 PM
So, my Mystic Square Hard run just went something like this:

Stage 1: Perfect
Stage 2: 1 Bomb
Stage 3: A Life and some bombs
Stage 4: A couple bombs, a life, and a Perfect Yuki fight!
Stage 5: Fine... then several deaths to Yumeko
Stage 6: Died at Devil's Recitation... then continued and perfected her last attack.

I hate Devil's Recitation so much.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zork787 on November 22, 2012, 06:07:19 AM
Any Pattern that are a combo of random bullets and an actual pattern! (such as Unknown "Skyfish with Unknown Shape" for example)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on November 22, 2012, 07:09:01 AM
Okay.... how does one no-vert Reisen?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: I have no name on November 22, 2012, 07:14:20 AM
Okay.... how does one no-vert Reisen?
luck and bombs.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Tsym on November 22, 2012, 08:02:23 AM
Tried some PC-98 for a while. A few things that I just have to rant about, because putting words to emotions is fairly therapeutic.

First off, a general wtf. This didn't happen in PoDD before, but suddenly during my most recent runs, PoDD and MS decided to randomly switch colors every time, which was annoying as hell. It switched back after a spell or a flash on screen, but still. What the hell. I had experienced this problem before, so the solution was just to kill explorer, but to be frank, I do not want to kill explorer every single time I want to play a PC-98 game, even if I can just do it simply through a batch file. I quite like having a number of explorer windows open so I can access different things quickly, and killing them all is just so... Painful. If there's a way to do this through Anex86, well, that would be amazing, but looking at Zil's thread in Tech Support, I'm guessing that no one knows/has experienced this issue, so that sucks.

Now for Mystic Square. I started it off on Hard, and I was very, very disappointed to find that I couldn't 1cc it on my first try. Maybe it's just high expectations for myself, but I would imagine that playing on Lunatic means that I would have a fair chance of just sweeping through the game on Hard, but alas that wasn't the case. I guess I can chalk it up to the color issue explained above and to the fact that there are a LOT of aimed attacks that you need to be prepared for in MS, and I just wasn't prepared for them. Still, I ended up gaming over on Mai and Yuki, and used up all my continues to get to Shiki. I don't know about you guys, but I will have nightmares of those yellow lasers for days to come. They just wouldn't stop coming... Bombs did nothing... Oh dear God. Since there's no stage practice, I can already tell that that singular attack is going to haunt me for a long time, because it's the only thing that I looked at and just went "... Crap this is going to take a lot of practice to figure out."

And finally PoDD. I went down to Hard because Lunatic is just insane. Even still, Hard was still.. Uhh.. Hard. Nothing particularly phased me until I got to Marisa. Learning to dodge the laser array she fires was tough, especially with everything else going on in the screen. But you know who was just absolutely evil? I don't know her name, but she shot meteors or something that had the most ridiculous paths. There's absolutely no way to predict which way they're going to go, and they can either fly in a curve or in this U shape, and it's annoying as hell. Second, Rikako. Those indestructable things are just plain stupid. But the absolute worst was Chiyuri and Yumemi. First, Chiyuri's lasers actually box you in, and it becomes impossible to do anything if you get caught in that. Rikako's crosses are just plain evil because you only have a limited reaction time to deal with them, and they will snipe you at the bottom of the screen, and they'll box you in even harder than Chiyuri's lasers do. Like what're you supposed to do with that? Insane. PoDD bosses also suffer from the same problems that plague PoFV. Characters are like God until you die once. I guess I didn't expect anything different, but it's still annoying to see. But I guess my biggest gripe has nothing to do with the attacks or whatever. It's how the damn spell system works. You don't get some screen clearage after casting. That's cool. What's not cool is the screen pausing every half a second when a big cluster of spells go off in rapid succession. You basically can't do ANYTHING while that chain is going off because the game pauses like every second while cut ins flash on your screen and messages appear everywhere cluttering your screen and making you disoriented trying to figure out which direction the bullets are going and you're annoyed as hell because you're trying to get off that charge attack of yours but it just doesn't seem to go off and holy what in the world a bullet is flying straight towards me oh God to the right! Wait I overshot it! Damn i- *picchun*. Oh, and if you really do have to go through that dialogue with Chiyuri and Yumemi every single time with no quick way to skip past it... Blarg.

Whew. There goes a gigantic block of text. I will admit that PoDD's base system is far more fun than PoFV's base system (as in charge attacks and spirits and the cool different ways in which enemies move). Not a fan of how some attacks tend to look like the background though. I don't like fighting against Komachi in PoFV because her coins don't contrast well with the background, and I swear that some of Chiyuri's danmaku looks like the exploding effect. Same deal with Shinki in MS, where there were background explosions that looked like bullets. Could have been an effect of the color thing tough. I dunno. Also MS has a lot of similarities with EoSD. I swear that some attacks from EoSD were lifted straight out of MS. Like with LLS, still not a fan of the stages. They're boring, repetitive, and dry. At least they're not as long. Although I guess my biggest criticism with MS is just that only Shiki and Yuki and Mai have any real distinctive qualities about them. The other bosses are basically a blur of "bullets. Lots of bullets at different speeds flying towards me and around me". I quite like the much more unique theming of EoSD. Definitely makes the game pop out, and part of the reason why I still do prefer it over MS.

Well that's it. I do feel better getting all that off my chest, even if I'm going to guess most of it isn't justified. Maybe it's because I'm really tired and irritated that my first impressions of the PC-98 games seemed so negative. If you actually read every word of the above, :toot: Your patience must be great, because I sure as hell am not a good writer. Sigh. Tired... Need sleep...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zork787 on November 22, 2012, 11:04:31 AM
So I felt like trying a MaricaC Normal mode run in SA and was actually doing pretty well, went into stage 5 with 6 lives thanks to some great deathbombing I did in the previous stages, buuuuuuut then Orin thought it'd be funny and make me game over...

suffice to say, I am less than cheery at the moment  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Seppo Hovi on November 22, 2012, 11:46:58 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/AMbDA.png)

One spell card.

One fucking spell card.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zork787 on November 22, 2012, 12:40:11 PM
I swear to GOD deathbombing in EoSD is Impossible! *headdesk*
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: ARF on November 22, 2012, 01:03:22 PM
I lost a SA Easy no horizontal run to Subterranean Sun  :V With 3 bombs in stock. Incredibly lame. This is without a doubt possible. It's probably possible to clear with like 3 lives in stock.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: redlakitu on November 22, 2012, 07:19:38 PM
There are days when I feel like I could perfect anything the games may throw at me.

Then I lose three lives to Meiling and wonder what the hell is wrong with me.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: LadyScarlet on November 22, 2012, 08:21:09 PM
Note to self: Never play Touhou when mom is home, lest you want to risk thousands of interruptions.  :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Bang Jan on November 22, 2012, 08:26:25 PM
One spell card.

One fucking spell card.

Which one?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Kaze_Senshi on November 22, 2012, 08:52:09 PM
Note to self: Never play Touhou when mom is home, lest you want to risk thousands of interruptions.  :colonveeplusalpha:

Never play Touhou when some child is home, you need to handle interruptions and questions like "ohh this game is for girls isn't?"  "barbie game \o\" and etc
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Wriggle on November 22, 2012, 08:56:50 PM
(http://puu.sh/1ta91)

...
Some no-focus timeout attempt.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Seppo Hovi on November 22, 2012, 09:43:56 PM
This was supposed to be an one-line answer.
Which one?
The 4th last spell. I am rusty, missed fairies in stage 2, messed up bullet cancels all over the place, collected shitton of items under the PoC. And then the huge bane of runs, the fourth last spell.

Let's aim for 1,65 on Yukari. She feels too shabby and I need to relearn lots of stuff, so 1,7 will not be coming soon. Top 3 would certainly feel funny, now that I can upload things on royalflare (it was all about the english patch, removed it and wonders happened)

-

Looked at my Yuyuko stuff, tried my thing for Wriggle's first card, success rate has fallen from over 75% to 1/25. Even AM-style felt scary, lost lots of time and swore a bit. Other things that need work are stage 3 and midboss Keine. And gaining full consistency on st-style Keine's finale if I ever wish to go for the dreams.

Stage 4 is normal. I feel like there is something that could be done with the noncards, but stuff feels too scary to be tried, it wouldn't work anyway. Maybe if I need extra punch. Stage 5, I need to work on optimal collection AND midboss Tewi. Maybe Reisen's final non, too. Looking into numbers and stuff.
Strategy for stage 6B is to skip everything and succeed at 4th last spell. I should maybe refer to some replays on Kaguya and look into numbers. Maybe. I'm bad with math, proved by that yes-no-yes 111M stage 3 PCB.

-

Long-term goals, stuff that requires work, the Yuyuko runs are. I wanted the damn record within a year last winter and even jokingly posted about it on the finnish forum, but now I feel like this will take several. Probably a good thing, better not stress myself too much over things.

More recently, I have looked at 2,7B Magic team, 2,5(?!) Nether team and 2,4B Border team. Anything with Sakuya in it, no. Not until I can call myself consistent at the fairy safespotting shenanigans of stage 4. Humans have it so hard.

-

Tried a Youmu run on normal. Tried a Marisa run on Extra. Died all over the place.

Maybe non-easymode difficulty scoring runs are harder. In a sense of tricks, optimal play and survival. Or maybe I am just an example of a shit-tier player who can only play on easymode, as some person kindly stated on /jp/ recently. Still, it might not make optimal goals easier, consistency throught thirty minutes is hard to achieve. Easy can be hard, lunatic can be harder, all a matter of viewpoint. I also guess you could let people play whatever they want to, but humanity seems to have a hard time understanding differences.

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I posted to the sin atonement thread about a week ago. Bad, bad idea. I had recently played SA more than enough, and going for graze in it is a thing that is literally killing me, ingame. So, ran around in stage practice and made a really simple route on suiciding and bombs. Now all that is left is to pull off a run without a fuckup. Been giving it only 100 restarts a day, I can't play it more without hurting myself. I hope the yama are enjoying themselves, since I'm coming down to hell and telling them a few things unless I'll be done with this game soon enough. It just isn't my thing. Has good music, though, and I like Yamame. Nice girl, hell of a first spell. Too bad most of the fanart on her seems to be lewd.

-

Decided against uploading the pofv video. Chum seems to be more enthusiastic about it and better at it, so I'll leave it for him. It was a horrid shitrun, anyway.

-

I, uh... Sorry.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Tsym on November 23, 2012, 05:18:11 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/VnZPh.jpg)
Sigh. This run was the most trash runs, and I still got to LFS. But seriously. This card is just being such a DICK, especially with ReimuB's low power and bomb. I bet even MarisaB's bomb is better than Reimu's in this situation because at least hers should clear the screen. ReimuB's doesn't, and it's so annoying. It'd be nice if I could get my clear before the 10 score slots are filled up but... Sigh.

Also maybe I should stop posting these because this is happening like every single run now. I don't know how or why, but... It just is :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zork787 on November 23, 2012, 01:48:59 PM
I Swear Zun went out of his way to make Stage 5 in SA on normal one of the hardest normal mode stages out there along with making Orin one of the hardest/most annoying Normal mode Stage 5 bosses in the process (at least with MarisaC anyway :V)

Edit:
Words cannot describe the rage I felt just now so I'll let this video do the talking...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGvLbI9eXik
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: MTSranger on November 24, 2012, 04:50:43 AM
I don't get how people find LLS so easy.
Why am I failing the extra stage...
Are my eyes just bad or what.

Also is there a vsync patch for this?
Why does movement feel so sluggish.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Goldom on November 24, 2012, 05:19:00 AM
"Vsync" for Anex86 (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,139.0.html). I'd normally recommend just switching to NPII, but it runs LLS poorly by default. Read all this (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,11117.0.html) if you have the patience though, once you get it working its way better.

As for difficulty - I find LLS to be a quite easy main game - I'd say its Hard is probably the easiest Hard in the series, because it's almost identical to its Normal. On the other hand, I'm much better at MS's Extra than LLS's.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: MTSranger on November 24, 2012, 07:04:14 AM
"Vsync" for Anex86 (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,139.0.html). I'd normally recommend just switching to NPII, but it runs LLS poorly by default. Read all this (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,11117.0.html) if you have the patience though, once you get it working its way better.

As for difficulty - I find LLS to be a quite easy main game - I'd say its Hard is probably the easiest Hard in the series, because it's almost identical to its Normal. On the other hand, I'm much better at MS's Extra than LLS's.
Oh my god you are my savior.
LLS Extra 1cc GET! It's way too long overdue.
http://i.imgur.com/z9Kcy.png
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on November 24, 2012, 09:38:49 AM
Got to Blazing Star Like Tag again after a while.

I can't put my disappointment to words. It's like I chose all the parts I did amazingly on in the prior run and died to every single one of them. I died to the first spell, I died to the very last second of Big Crunch, I died twice to Master Spark Like Flashlight, I died to the slow nonspell before the two last nonspells... at least I didn't die on Open Universe (had to use two bombs, and that's actually amazing) and did the third nonspell properly for a change. Oh, and I died to the spell before Blazing Star only once (instead of three goddamn times). That's an improvement, I guess.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on November 24, 2012, 10:36:18 AM
Okay, so, my superior-by-dodging-and-scoring run of PCB Phantasm got beat out by my regular-survival-run-play replay simply because my survival run ended with six spare lives and three bombs.
I got to Yukari with 490,000 Cherry Max and 280 million points, compared to like, 450,000 and 190m, and I still wind up getting 750 million in the score-run, as compared to 948 in the survival.

Yeah, fuck you too.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zork787 on November 24, 2012, 11:02:38 AM
It doesn't seem to matter how many times I practice Stage 5 Normal in SA, Orin ALWAYS seems to have a way of hitting me no matter how much I dodge her bullets! Especially fucking Cat Sign "Cat's Walk", Fuck that Spell Card, and Fuck you Orin!

Edit:
Now I've been trying to beat the MS Extra for the past 2 hours now or so, first of all I can never seem to get to Alice with lives or bomb's in stock as something always NEEDS to freaking clip me, specifically the Mid Bosses 1st bloody phase... And the furthest I got in all that was Alice's 6th Phase and after that I could barely get to her 3rd phase  let alone her 2nd phase >:(
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Nindella on November 24, 2012, 03:35:14 PM
It doesn't seem to matter how many times I practice Stage 5 Normal in SA, Orin ALWAYS seems to have a way of hitting me no matter how much I dodge her bullets! Especially fucking Cat Sign "Cat's Walk", Fuck that Spell Card, and Fuck you Orin!

Edit:
Now I've been trying to beat the MS Extra for the past 2 hours now or so, first of all I can never seem to get to Alice with lives or bomb's in stock as something always NEEDS to freaking clip me, specifically the Mid Bosses 1st bloody phase... And the furthest I got in all that was Alice's 6th Phase and after that I could barely get to her 3rd phase  let alone her 2nd phase >:(
Ahh, Cat Walk is really hard for normal, I suggest just auto-bombing it right before the waves reach you and not a moment later.  Make sure to follow Orin as she dashs about the screen to deal as much damage as possible, and you can kill it off before she starts the 2nd wave.

Feel free to use this helpful No-Deaths No-Dodging-Required Stage 5 guide made by a very nice person:  http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=14425 (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=14425)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on November 24, 2012, 05:08:50 PM
Fuck.

Blazing Star Like Tag again, but this time I can't fault my play at all, which is why I'm at a loss for words. (again, but it's different now!) I played well, but I very much lost the run to "those" deaths - like ramming into the stars that spawn at the second stage of Blazing Star WHILE they spawn, dying to the VERY last second of the second-last nonspell (homing yellow jellybeans & red fireballs, which I was going to ace flawlessly, with the help of some godly dodges), dying to one of the "tails" of Grand Cross's fireballs, dying to Big Crunch because the timing of your PF left you no room to dodge the familiars (seriously, ZUN, 100% hitbox is NOT necessary at all...), "those" deaths.

I'm annoyed more than anything else.

Edit: Actually, now that I think about it, I died to the third AND fifth nonspells, so I guess I'm feeling a bit better about this now. (because this suddenly looks a lot less impossibly prone to bullshit)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Goldom on November 24, 2012, 08:18:17 PM
Hint for Cat's Walk: follow her around until the first step on the bottom row, then stop. If you follow her along the lowest row until she leaves the screen, you'll have a much harder time dodging the shots than if you stop following and focus on dodging at that point. ReimuA will still kill it before the end of the 2nd round, 3rd for everyone else I think.

Fairy Wars is making me mad. I hate so much that it doesn't give a bomb on a new life - I get to a spell that I can't deal with without bombs in stock and I'll lose 2-3 lives on the single pattern, totally ruining the run. That and those few spells where the blue shards love to spawn directly on top of me.

I also gotta agree with whoever was saying the Ex stage portion is dull. (Was that even this thread? I have no idea). I mean, I've only even made it to Ex Marisa once, but even though I still suck at it, the stage part is SO repetitive.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on November 24, 2012, 08:47:18 PM
I have to agree with BT and the 100% hitbox thing. makes me so mad when mtx stouching the most outer part of those familiars and I die. that's like, my main death-cause in big crunch.

also, so many 2dnb runs, it hurts. I think I actually have to start planning, instead of just romping through everything. I suppose this stage is at a difficulty, which requires some planning :V

and goldom, I have yet to see a stage potion of an extra that isn't repetitive. how many times does EoSD extra have fairies aiming pellets at you? 3? GFW extra has, in comparison, a pretty good stage potion. it's just made so that you can stock up on lives and power. that's all.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Tsym on November 24, 2012, 09:26:54 PM
Damn while trying another round of UFO it finally dawned on me. I'm not really challenging myself anymore. Now I'm just waiting for my concentration and the RNG to align for my 1ccs. This isn't "hard" anymore, it's just a matter of not screwing up. And I feel as though this is why it took me so long to get my SanaeA 1cc. I hate playing games where my only objective is to not screw up. I get bored ridiculously easily, and make tons of silly mistakes that just prolong my frustration. I like something challenging that I can improve on. I'm not really improving on anything here, I'm just whittling away time.

I really wish I had the ability to pinpoint these problems sooner. I always feel like I'm a step behind of the game. I should really do something else. Hm... I guess I'll experiment with different stuff for a bit. Hm... What's the easiest game to 1cc at 90fps?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on November 24, 2012, 09:39:32 PM
probably PCB, seeing how it gives you tons of resourced and most bosses aren't that difficult.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Goldom on November 24, 2012, 11:44:33 PM
and goldom, I have yet to see a stage potion of an extra that isn't repetitive. how many times does EoSD extra have fairies aiming pellets at you? 3? GFW extra has, in comparison, a pretty good stage potion. it's just made so that you can stock up on lives and power. that's all.

I guess you're right, but EoSD and most other extra stages only lasts 3 minutes, and that includes the midboss, while FW's stage is over 5 minutes.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Elysia on November 25, 2012, 02:21:24 AM
(http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad256/Malkyrian/failice.png)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Cor on November 25, 2012, 03:20:04 AM
Damn while trying another round of UFO it finally dawned on me. I'm not really challenging myself anymore. Now I'm just waiting for my concentration and the RNG to align for my 1ccs. This isn't "hard" anymore, it's just a matter of not screwing up. And I feel as though this is why it took me so long to get my SanaeA 1cc. I hate playing games where my only objective is to not screw up. I get bored ridiculously easily, and make tons of silly mistakes that just prolong my frustration. I like something challenging that I can improve on. I'm not really improving on anything here, I'm just whittling away time.
I don't think that's true. I mean, sure, I feel just like that when I play, but there are these people who can pretty much clear every time with their eyes closed. There has to be something you and I can improve on.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Tsym on November 25, 2012, 03:52:42 AM
I don't think that's true. I mean, sure, I feel just like that when I play, but there are these people who can pretty much clear every time with their eyes closed. There has to be something you and I can improve on.
Right but the problem is that aiming for 1ccs of UFO doesn't help me to really improve on parts that are difficult. Instead I mainly plan bombs around them. For example, I always go into Kogasa with at least 1 bomb to skip PSM, I bomb the same spells in every run (everything of Shou's, everything of Byakuren's save for a certain few), and so on and so forth. At this point, I have strategies for pretty much everything that I can more or less reliably do. Now it's about execution. And I can't execute my strategies consistently. I feel as though my main barrier is my reflexes, so I think it might be wiser to aim higher, expand/improve my experience and dodging abilities and then come back again rather than grind away at all too familiar patterns.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: RNG on November 25, 2012, 05:18:33 AM
Missed a Stage 5 perfect run to Futo's second non. AARGH

Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zork787 on November 25, 2012, 05:52:13 AM
Ahh, Cat Walk is really hard for normal, I suggest just auto-bombing it right before the waves reach you and not a moment later.  Make sure to follow Orin as she dashs about the screen to deal as much damage as possible, and you can kill it off before she starts the 2nd wave.

Feel free to use this helpful No-Deaths No-Dodging-Required Stage 5 guide made by a very nice person:  http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=14425 (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=14425)

funny thing is, not long after posting I actually captured it for the first time :V and after watching that replay, HOW COULD I MISS SUCH AN OBVIOUS SAFE SPOT IN HER FIRST NON SPELLCARD PATTERN!  :colonveeplusalpha:

So now I did my own attempt using some of those stratagies although I still died to her last card because I bombed a bit too much and didnt have any power left to bomb with :V http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=25482
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Star King on November 25, 2012, 06:12:55 AM
Right but the problem is that aiming for 1ccs of UFO doesn't help me to really improve on parts that are difficult. Instead I mainly plan bombs around them. For example, I always go into Kogasa with at least 1 bomb to skip PSM, I bomb the same spells in every run (everything of Shou's, everything of Byakuren's save for a certain few), and so on and so forth. At this point, I have strategies for pretty much everything that I can more or less reliably do. Now it's about execution. And I can't execute my strategies consistently. I feel as though my main barrier is my reflexes, so I think it might be wiser to aim higher, expand/improve my experience and dodging abilities and then come back again rather than grind away at all too familiar patterns.

Maybe to "improve on parts that are difficult" you should go for some perfect stages, or try No Bombs. Both will force you to actually dodge stuff like PSM instead of just auto-bombing it and never learning it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: ark on November 25, 2012, 06:18:29 AM
Maybe to "improve on parts that are difficult" you should go for some perfect stages, or try No Bombs. Both will force you to actually dodge stuff like PSM instead of just auto-bombing it and never learning it.
safespot PSM
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: I have no name on November 25, 2012, 06:35:46 AM
safespot PSM
Dodge PSM by using SanaeB spreaad
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zil on November 25, 2012, 06:51:08 AM
bomb PSM for score
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zetzumarshen on November 25, 2012, 07:10:34 AM
Dodge PSM by using SanaeB spreaad
Sanae B :
First wave : Safespot and unfocused shotgun
The rest : dodge, bomb, or continue safespot+shotgun for score (not recommended),
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: RNG on November 25, 2012, 07:30:27 PM
I think Tsym has already cleared with SanaeB and is going for the 6/6. With Marisa A I'd recommend bombing, but every other shot type should probably safespot. It isn't actually as hard as I thought.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Cor on November 25, 2012, 07:36:40 PM
It's same old same old with MarisaA as well, Kogasa lets you out of her barrage just in time for you to dodge the orb(s) coming from straight above.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on November 25, 2012, 11:42:20 PM
lol, you people. safespot dat shi and good going.

something for myself: after tons and tons of horrible playing in GFW extra and MS extra, I decided to take a break for today, seeing as I got fucking angry for every death. Went for something more casual. a no bomb MoF run.

things went well, 1 death on stage  3(on nitori's first spellcard, of all things), 1 death on stage 4. (to momiji, in the last fucking second. that would have been a NMNB stage 4, if that didn't happen. HURR DURR)

I died 4 times in stage 5 and 3 times in stage 6. what the fuck? how can I die to stage 5 four fucking times? how the hell does that even work? I failed streaming, I failed the midboss card, the memo shit and, probably worst of all, I died to sanae's last spell. had I actually went with 1 death for each of the last two stages, this would have been an AMAZING NB run. also, aside from 2 deaths, everything was absolutely retarded.

seeing how that cannot happene ever again, I tried again. this time, 1 deat on stage 3 (last spellcard this time, durr). 2 deaths to stage 5. I still have over'd. what happened?

I died 4 times in stage 4. still had a perfect aya fight :V I died to what`? a big fairy, momiji, post-momiji and streaming after post momiji. like, what?

people, what the fuck is consistency? I don't have it, and I never will. upon trying a third time, I had 2 deaths on stage 3, 3 on 4, 2 on five or whatever it was. I feel the urge to shoot myself for these runs. everything was silly. I capture hard bullshit like optical camouflage, storm day and PWG, but I die to memo shit and streaming sections? well FUCK YOU, TOO.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Mixae on November 25, 2012, 11:46:45 PM
I'm really new at these danmaku games so I go between playing on Easy and Normal but I must be so bad because I haven't beaten one 2hu game yet. I've been playing a lot of Subterranian Animism, but I've heard Perfect Cherry Blossom and MoF are the easiest...not for me. :| I got all the way to Patch on Normal on EoSD but its really tough for me to make it that far on normal lololo
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Cor on November 26, 2012, 01:57:15 AM
I'm really new at these danmaku games so I go between playing on Easy and Normal but I must be so bad because I haven't beaten one 2hu game yet. I've been playing a lot of Subterranian Animism, but I've heard Perfect Cherry Blossom and MoF are the easiest...not for me. :| I got all the way to Patch on Normal on EoSD but its really tough for me to make it that far on normal lololo
Play whatever the fuck you enjoy playing. Improvement is fast on the lower levels of skill 'cause it's not really a matter of specific strategies, it's a matter of playtime and getting used to the controls 'n' whatnot. You just have to play more. If you stick at it, you'll clear normals in no time, and later on, coupled with careful planning, Lunatic clears are quickly within your reach. (This paragraph is completely out of my ass, but it's what I think is true.)

Which game is easiest for whom is also completely subjective. It depends on how much you like and have put effort in the particular game. General skill carries over from game to game, but executing tactics specific to a game is how you clear one. They may say that Perfect Cherry Blossom is the easiest, but I get so fed up with that boring game (In This Post: opinions) I barely play it at all. It's not easy for me.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Limian on November 26, 2012, 02:55:23 AM
Play whatever the fuck you enjoy playing. Improvement is fast on the lower levels of skill 'cause it's not really a matter of specific strategies, it's a matter of playtime and getting used to the controls 'n' whatnot. You just have to play more. If you stick at it, you'll clear normals in no time, and later on, coupled with careful planning, Lunatic clears are quickly within your reach. (This paragraph is completely out of my ass, but it's what I think is true.)
I've been playing for nearly 4 months, and still have no consistency in normal mode at all. Game over'd at Karmic Punishment in PCB today, Cowrie Shell in IN, and I haven't made it past Super-ego in SA despite having made it to Sanae almost 160 times. This is frustrating.

And I just blew a UFO run when I entered stage 4 with 8 lives, and left with 4, including THREE STUPID DEATHS on Sinker Ghost. I ragequit when I was down to only two lives after Nazrin. I wasn't even doing badly until Sinker Ghost, but that one just drained all my motivation.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on November 26, 2012, 03:07:31 AM
4 months? you're so cute. took me 10 for my first couple normal 1ccs. don't get discouraged if you're having problems now, just continue trying. you'll get it eventually. if you can get to UFO stage 4 with 8 lives, I daresay you'll get the UFO one soon, at least.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: RNG on November 26, 2012, 04:39:46 AM
Double KOd to Umbrella Halo. My single least favorite card in the series.

And what the hell was I thinking on Heal By Desire, trying to stream it top to bottom? Ugh, I need to get some rest and do this again with a more functional brain.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Kenta Kurodani on November 26, 2012, 04:46:13 AM
I've been playing for nearly 4 months, and still have no consistency in normal mode at all. Game over'd at Karmic Punishment in PCB today, Cowrie Shell in IN, and I haven't made it past Super-ego in SA despite having made it to Sanae almost 160 times. This is frustrating.
Mind explaining how you are playing SA Extra if you haven't beaten any touhou games?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on November 26, 2012, 04:52:10 AM
Surely you're not confusing Limian here with the one who actually said that they haven't beaten anything, Mixae?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Tsym on November 26, 2012, 06:04:36 AM
Maybe to "improve on parts that are difficult" you should go for some perfect stages, or try No Bombs. Both will force you to actually dodge stuff like PSM instead of just auto-bombing it and never learning it.
I think part of the problem is that I'm currently overloaded on UFO. I've seen the same patterns so many times that I know them inside out. I know exactly what happens if I try to dodge PSM using ReimuB/SanaeA - I can dodge every wave perfectly until a gigantic orb coming from one side forces me to do a major readjustment, which then causes a mistake or a lucky dodge. I've seen this happen every time when I've gotten to PSM with no bombs in stock, and I'm kind of tired of only needing to figure out a few portions in a stage to make it work, then grinding until I can finally not screw up due to negligence on stage 1 to make it work. Call it UFO burnout or something, but I feel as though I've hit a wall in UFO. It's starting to become more of a chore to beat who I want to beat, and accomplish what I want to accomplish. I feel as though my problem with the game is just a general reflex issue, which I think I can practice more efficiently elsewhere.

Also I just dislike going for perfects. It feels far too luck based for my liking. I feel as though it's almost unnatural to expect any human to make absolutely 0 mistakes while doing something; I feel it's far more invigorating to make a mistake, then recover and climb back up, and make up for it in other places to get a clear. It's just a personal preference/philosophy thing. No bombs I'm totally willing to do though. I just feel as though right now if I hear the opening jingle for UFO stage 1 again I'm going to smack someone haha.

I've been playing for nearly 4 months, and still have no consistency in normal mode at all. Game over'd at Karmic Punishment in PCB today, Cowrie Shell in IN, and I haven't made it past Super-ego in SA despite having made it to Sanae almost 160 times. This is frustrating.
Trust me when I say that consistency is something you probably won't have at any difficulty until you're comfortable with the one that's a level higher. Just keep at it. You'll get it!

Double KOd to Umbrella Halo. My single least favorite card in the series.

And what the hell was I thinking on Heal By Desire, trying to stream it top to bottom? Ugh, I need to get some rest and do this again with a more functional brain.
Umbrella Halo? You were playing UFO Normal?

Oh, and
Dodge PSM by using SanaeB spreaad
It's not a real PSM capture unless you use ReimuB.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Limian on November 26, 2012, 07:30:59 AM
4 months? you're so cute. took me 10 for my first couple normal 1ccs. don't get discouraged if you're having problems now, just continue trying. you'll get it eventually. if you can get to UFO stage 4 with 8 lives, I daresay you'll get the UFO one soon, at least.
haha I don't know, I'm under the impression that I'm surrounded by people who've been attempting their first lunatics by that time. I always like to think I'm incredibly slow at these games. thanks for the encouragement!

and I've actually 1cc'd most normals bar EoSD and UFO (and IN 6A), I'm just trying to do sakuyaB and scarlet team for PCB and IN, respectively and getting annoyed at how I get murdered by their respective stage 4s/5s over and over again.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on November 26, 2012, 07:37:55 AM
Quote
haha I don't know, I'm under the impression that I'm surrounded by people who've been attempting their first lunatics by that time. I always like to think I'm incredibly slow at these games. thanks for the encouragement!

I've been playing Touhou for what's going on three years now and I'm just starting to crack the Lunatic modes. :P
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Cor on November 26, 2012, 08:26:25 AM
haha I don't know, I'm under the impression that I'm surrounded by people who've been attempting their first lunatics by that time. I always like to think I'm incredibly slow at these games. thanks for the encouragement!
Well, there's no minimum time you have to take before you start attempting Lunatics. I started on Lunatic. :V I'd guess you're not very slow compared to the majority of people, it's just the really fast mutants are the ones who stand out and who you remember.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on November 26, 2012, 08:50:41 AM
Well, there's no minimum time you have to take before you start attempting Lunatics. I started on Lunatic. :V I'd guess you're not very slow compared to the majority of people, it's just the really fast mutants are the ones who stand out and who you remember.

that, so much. I mean, what the fuck, nindella, seiga etc? barely playing for a year, already loads better than I am, who's in it for 3 1/2 now. LOGIC :/ these mutants don't have any.

still makes me feel slow, seeing how I've got shit consistency and nindella is more of less on the verge of NMNB SA. he could go for it if he wanted to :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Kenta Kurodani on November 26, 2012, 10:48:03 AM
Whoops... saw no avatar and assumed the same person was posting ^_^;
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Seppo Hovi on November 26, 2012, 05:36:15 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Tj87a.png)

I don't know if I should feel good or bad.

Hahaha.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Cor on November 26, 2012, 05:54:24 PM
You should feel good. c: A simple answer for a simple question.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: RNG on November 26, 2012, 07:12:42 PM
Umbrella Halo? You were playing UFO Normal?

Man, I should be the last person to forget spellcard names, Jesus. I mean TD Kogasa, who is a bitch, not UFO Kogasa, who is very fun.

I'd guess you're not very slow compared to the majority of people, it's just the really fast mutants are the ones who stand out and who you remember.

I take issue to people who develop skills quickly being called mutants. I know it's a joke, but it speaks to a weird culture we have around these games in the West where we go into them thinking that we're going to suck and don't consider the virtues of practicing and memorization, and we think that skill at danmaku is some bizarre organic construct that develops through repeated ragequits.

I'll just say here what I said to Zork in spellcard help: The only thing holding you back from being able to pursue things like Lunatic clears or scoring is you saying that it's too intimidating and you can't. Stop insisting that you suck and will never improve, it will doom you. So will not learning how to follow replays.

I'm not speaking as one of the "fast players" either, I've been playing for 4 or 5 years and only just now am I approaching competence. Don't make the mistakes I did.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Wriggle on November 26, 2012, 07:56:29 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Tj87a.png)

I don't know if I should feel good or bad.

Hahaha.

I see you just beat that other score, congrats. :toot:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on November 26, 2012, 08:39:36 PM
fuck you marisa. pull the craziest godlike dodges. still die to something. just...fuck you. I had hoped I could do it today, but nope. that's it. continuing to die tomorrow.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: PMW on November 26, 2012, 09:25:54 PM
I was playing PoFV lunatic with Cirno and I just...

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdaxpnKBa11r6ui98o1_1280.png)

...yeah.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on November 26, 2012, 10:01:12 PM
what, you lost like 5 matches to eiki? that's harsh. I don't think it would happen again. that's just too unlikely.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on November 26, 2012, 10:14:52 PM
Think again. I can't count the number of times I lost five lives to her, with multiple characters.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on November 26, 2012, 10:45:41 PM
I never did. never. 3 lives was the hghest I've ever lost to her and I play komachi who can't hit the AI. tehn again, every match I win against her goes into like 4-5 minutes. story mode at least...so yeah, I suppose hitting the AI is possible even with komachi, then.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Goldom on November 26, 2012, 11:44:08 PM
Why's the winner/loser text look like that? Mine's like this:

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Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: RNG on November 26, 2012, 11:58:31 PM
English patch.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Goldom on November 27, 2012, 01:43:03 AM
But they're both in English? Or is 9 that one I was asking about in the Questions thread that went unanswered, where the English patcher had two options?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on November 27, 2012, 02:54:41 AM
lol wut

Extra 90FPS attempt: Kokkuri-san's Contract
Phantasm 90FPS attempt: Boundary of Humans and Youkai

Whatever could it meeeean
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on November 27, 2012, 09:35:11 PM
oh hai, look who lost another pack of runs to marisa today :V best I've gotten was a 1DNB with the death being on the 7th non. I'll upload that replay, but man, I am so done for tday. I told myself that if I can't do it this week, I'll fuck this perfect for now. because even for me, there's a line. well, I got better at big crunch, so there's that, at least. but oh I GOT WORSE AT THE 6TH NON, TOO. well, fuck. also, open universe suddenly looks super impossible. I don't even know why.

also, lost a run to super perseid. shouldn't have happened. I ragequitted, so I don't know if that had been a 1dnb or not, but uh, yeah. the death was retarded. to_the_max. I am so disappointed in myself. this whole "you can capture EVERYTHING she has on its own, but in succession? nope. die to at least one thing" is really bugging me. had it with a couple bosses, but never so bad. my consistency with everything in that stage is complete shit. like, 1 out of 5 runs make it to marisa. that's 20%. 10% make it past big crunch, maybe. and of those 10, only 1% makes it past the 7th non. well, fuck. I think I had 4 runs till now that didn't die to the 7th non or earlier. 4, out of I don't know how many tries it took me. UNTIL NOW! I'm calling it now: I will double KO on fairy destruction ray at some point. like I did with Eirin and hourai elixir, like I did with FLandre and Q.E.D. like I did with miko and her last spell. I will definitely double KO on the last spell, making me lose another goddamn run.

ugh, this is making me angrier than it should. consistency is so shit.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on November 27, 2012, 09:47:34 PM
Just play it at a higher fps rate instead. 'Tis the only rational thing.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Yatakarasu on November 28, 2012, 03:20:40 AM
(http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/9951/th12e2012112721573135.png)
That's not me failing at Byakuren's last card. Nope. Not at all. -sob sob-
I even went in with 4 lives and 4 bombs.

Fun fact:
This was the first time I've gotten to this card on normal.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Makedounia on November 28, 2012, 09:45:17 AM
Stupid Mokou and her stupid nonspells... I can capture all of her cards up to Giant Hollow "Woo". The nonspells are SO annoying... (never thought I'd say that). 
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on November 28, 2012, 11:00:56 AM
Just play it at a higher fps rate instead. 'Tis the only rational thing.

you know what? I'll do that. I'll stop with the perfects altogether (for now) and play the games on 90 fps. that way I don't have to restart after every death :V I'll come back to them, though. just not too soon. maybe in january or something. yep. marisa officially defeated me :/

anyway, every remaining stage is not forgotten, merely postponed. I think trying to improve generally is smarter than grinding a stage until everything works out at some point. I easily restarted GFW extra 400-500 times. and even if I got a run now, it would mean shit, consideirng that. a battle of attrition. well, fuck. so yeah, leaving the extras alone for a while. Not doing the bullshit stages I have yet to do. Like everything I haven't done yet :V I could probably do yukari (tried a run a couple days ago and only failed 8th spell ran. and memo section before yukari :V). but nope. that's it. yeah.

the 1DNB from yesterday is processing and will be up on youtube soon. feel free to check it out, then.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on November 28, 2012, 11:52:50 AM
I'm trying to upload the almost-90fps-clear run I had a while ago, so that's added reference (aside from Zil's run). It's an enormous file though so who knows if it'll ever upload without freezing. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: chum on November 28, 2012, 12:52:25 PM
4 Hours of Reisen no-focus no-charge attempts. Every time, third round Shikieiki finds a new way to fuck me up.

...Fuck.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Validon98 on November 28, 2012, 09:57:16 PM
Koishi, stop killing me! That's another run I've lost to "Subterranean Rose!" Even worse, I lost a life to the first phase of "Philosophy of a Hated Person." The first. That never happens! Goddamnit Koishi!  :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Makedounia on November 29, 2012, 12:03:16 AM
Well, let's just say trying to 1cc SA with a weapon I've never used and 2AM don't really mix...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Goldom on November 29, 2012, 01:53:17 AM
Stupid Mokou and her stupid nonspells... I can capture all of her cards up to Giant Hollow "Woo". The nonspells are SO annoying... (never thought I'd say that).

Mokou's nonspells are a serious pain. Every other extra stage has utterly trivial nonspells, but Mokou's last one is a guaranteed bomb, and the next to last generally is as well.

As for Woo, if you don't mind being given the "answer," there's a technique to misdirect it that moved it from a never-capture to about 80% success for me:
Shot 1: sit slightly left of center, half an inch off the bottom so the shots don't spawn into you. She'll then move left.
Shot 2: follow her left so the next shot fires straight down again. As soon as the shot fires, run through the gap to the right wall and move up to near Mokou's height.
Shot 3-lots: As the mass of shots approach you, slowly move down the right wall then left. The majority of the bullets will spawn offscreen and go away. Move back to Shot 1 position and repeat.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on November 29, 2012, 02:45:41 AM
fack

i lost a 120fps Easy run to Miracle of Otensui
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Elysia on November 29, 2012, 07:03:11 AM
I hate A Fantasy's Transience. It is the Tongling Yoshika of Marine Benefit.

Looks doable enough, then starts spiking its difficulty up massively to somewhere near infinity until it's the hardest thing in the game to time out (or at least the hardest thing that's actually possible (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMRnOnH_Jvs)).

Except at least Tongling Yoshika didn't make you sit through a stupidly boring stage every time you wanted to attempt it.

I mean, seriously, I survive for 20 seconds and treat this as an amazing achievement, one which took me 80 freaking attempts to do - and the card as a whole lasts 44 seconds.

Meanwhile, I'm too much of an idiot to let it rest, so I just keep going with the shooting game equivalent of bashing my head against the wall.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Chuckolator on November 29, 2012, 09:16:15 AM
hardest thing in the game to time out (or at least the hardest thing that's actually possible (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMRnOnH_Jvs)).
That shouldn't be too hard, because a timeout is literally running the clock down to zero, not necessarily doing so while pacifisting. Unless you're really sticking to pacifist by definition, that is. :/
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Makedounia on November 29, 2012, 11:28:03 AM
Mokou's nonspells are a serious pain. Every other extra stage has utterly trivial nonspells, but Mokou's last one is a guaranteed bomb, and the next to last generally is as well.

As for Woo, if you don't mind being given the "answer," there's a technique to misdirect it that moved it from a never-capture to about 80% success for me:
Shot 1: sit slightly left of center, half an inch off the bottom so the shots don't spawn into you. She'll then move left.
Shot 2: follow her left so the next shot fires straight down again. As soon as the shots pass you, run through the gap to the right wall and move up to near Mokou's height.
Shot 3-lots: As the mass of shots approach you, slowly move down the right wall then left. The majority of the bullets will spawn offscreen and go away. Move back to Shot 1 position and repeat.

I'd rather find the "right way" myself than read guides. Thanks anyway! Back to the spell practice for me...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Lepetit89 on November 29, 2012, 11:50:38 AM
I'd rather find the "right way" myself than read guides. Thanks anyway! Back to the spell practice for me...

I like you for that attitude alone, keep it up!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on November 29, 2012, 12:02:19 PM
I'd rather find the "right way" myself than read guides. Thanks anyway! Back to the spell practice for me...

cool attitude. it's great fun figuring a boss out on your own (did that with EX-alice. my first clear was a NB too :V). keep it up. and as for woo, there are definitely more than one ways! I figured that one out on my own, too and I do it VERY differently. not saying more, though. have fun with it =)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Lepetit89 on November 29, 2012, 12:05:59 PM
cool attitude. it's great fun figuring a boss out on your own (did that with EX-alice. my first clear was a NB too :V). keep it up. and as for woo, there are definitely more than one ways! I figured that one out on my own, too and I do it VERY differently. not saying more, though. have fun with it =)

Yep, exactly this! Sometimes, you're just re-inventing the wheel, but on other occasions you'll find an even cooler new approach. If everyone just copied each other's strategies, things would be boring and no one would ever come up with something new.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Wriggle on November 29, 2012, 03:12:58 PM
cool attitude. it's great fun figuring a boss out on your own (did that with EX-alice. my first clear was a NB too :V). keep it up. and as for woo, there are definitely more than one ways! I figured that one out on my own, too and I do it VERY differently. not saying more, though. have fun with it =)

That's what I like in Koishi's first card. Almost everyone has their own way of streaming/dodging it. I confirmed it by watching all these somewhat recent Koishi Perfects, and iirc everyone dodged it with a slightly different strategy.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Makedounia on November 29, 2012, 07:49:48 PM
Well I managed to capture woo 3 times today (never before). At least now I know how it's done. Now it's all up to my reflexes and dodging skills. I still have to practice more though. I should probably practice the extra stage so I could get second extend from point items.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zork787 on November 29, 2012, 08:18:32 PM
(or at least the hardest thing that's actually possible (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMRnOnH_Jvs)).
And after seeing that I'm reminded of 9url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0FkEZXVqjk]thiis.[/url]

Anyway, during my PCB Sakuya attempt earlier, anytime I tried to initiate a deathbomb, the game would just not activate the bomb and I'd lose a life, and when it did work, it felt like there was a delay between pressing x and the bomb actually going off though anytime I bombed normally, the bomb activated normally like it should have, and it was this that cost me a 1CC on Yuyuko, well that and most of her non-spell cards kept ending up as clusterfucks at some point (I blame the bubble bullets for that :V) and a lot of clipdeaths.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Reiko on November 29, 2012, 08:55:54 PM
Do you know that feeling when you fail something trivial in the early stages, decide to go on nonetheless and game over near the end with just "that one life" missing ?
Well, I have it.
"Something trivial" being Cirno's Perfect Freeze on normal mode.  :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zil on November 29, 2012, 09:01:19 PM
it felt like there was a delay between pressing x and the bomb actually going off
Are you using the vsync patch?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Makedounia on November 29, 2012, 09:35:51 PM
Do you know that feeling when you fail something trivial in the early stages, decide to go on nonetheless and game over near the end with just "that one life" missing ?
Well, I have it.
"Something trivial" being Cirno's Perfect Freeze on normal mode.  :colonveeplusalpha:
Happened to me today...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: I have no name on November 29, 2012, 09:50:03 PM
Happened to me today...
That is exactly why I reset on runs with early deaths.

Though I didn't with UFO lunatic, kept a Stage 2 stage portion death and nearly cleared anyway, without that death I would have bomb Byakuren's second spell for safety and probably cleared 0/0.
But I did with SA and kept my first no death stage 2 run, ended up clearing with 0 lives left, dying very close to the end of Utsuho's last card.

I just see it as "if it's easy to prevent this with a restart, why not prevent it?"
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zork787 on November 29, 2012, 09:59:25 PM
Are you using the vsync patch?
Not to my knowledge no, should probably give it a try.

Also was practising SA Stage 6 Normal with MarisaC trying to do a no bomb/no death run, and when I died I'd just restart. I restarted like 30 times and each and everytime, I would get clipped by something, even Youkai "Blazing Wheel" clipped me on 2 attempts... although at least during all that I pretty much have the stage memorised completely now, Utsuho on the other hand... I really wish there was a "Boss Practise Mode" so you arn't forced to redo the stage when you just wanna practise the boss :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Tsym on November 30, 2012, 01:22:01 AM
I'm done with 90FPS. It's just way too fast for me and I can't read anything. There seem to be some patterns in PCB Lunatic that are just nearly impossible for me to do consistently at 90FPS because a whole mess of bullets spawn so close to your position that I have no idea how you're supposed to read them (Chen's first card and second midboss Alice's non-spell are the two things that instantly pop into my head). I can't read or make heads or tails of this. I think I'm going to take it down a notch to 75FPS. I get the feeling that I might have jumped a bit too high by starting at 90FPS even though my reflexes are crap.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: LadyScarlet on November 30, 2012, 04:11:03 PM
Okay, that's enough IN for one morning. I'm just too bad at Stage 3. I can do a perfect run until Midboss Keine, but then it all falls apart. ;_;
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Makedounia on December 01, 2012, 09:41:35 PM
Getting my ass kicked by Byakuren (again). I might have to do something I've never done before since I can't beat this game with continues. I'm going to 1cc U.F.O without beating the game first. I just can't beat that last spell...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Tsym on December 02, 2012, 12:12:18 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/q0gKQ.jpg)
Yes Seiga. I love you too.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Limian on December 02, 2012, 12:38:22 AM
That is exactly why I reset on runs with early deaths.

Though I didn't with UFO lunatic, kept a Stage 2 stage portion death and nearly cleared anyway, without that death I would have bomb Byakuren's second spell for safety and probably cleared 0/0.
But I did with SA and kept my first no death stage 2 run, ended up clearing with 0 lives left, dying very close to the end of Utsuho's last card.

I just see it as "if it's easy to prevent this with a restart, why not prevent it?"
My 1cc's today had deaths vs. Chen and Mystia and then later Alice/Keine, although I guess these two games are just more forgiving.

I bet if you honestly stick to every run, even those where you die on stage 1, you'll get your 1cc's much quicker, although of course neither you nor I like that. :V Heck, I've restarted runs because I missed an item at the beginning of PCB stage 1. Or for accidentally killing the blue UFO fairy in UFO stage 1.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: RNG on December 02, 2012, 05:12:23 AM
Marisa's missile explosion effects in TD. They add-blend, so they obscure bullets. REALLY fucking annoying on Tongling Yoshika and most of Stage 4.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Validon98 on December 03, 2012, 03:19:57 AM
So, UFO Extra. "Danmaku Chimera." Two deaths to that and one to the nonspell before it.
Why do I fail so badly at that card?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on December 03, 2012, 04:20:16 AM
How are you tackling it?

Also, 90FPS completely ruined my Fujiyama Volcano history. It's gone from 2/9 to 2/45. What the butts, man.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Goldom on December 03, 2012, 04:21:01 AM
Chimera has the most annoying sort of difficulty - if you mess it up, there's just no way to bomb, because you ran straight into something yourself. Whether or not I capture that card seems to be my primary factor on whether I survive the stage.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Wriggle on December 03, 2012, 05:32:46 AM
Fuck, I can't even do 1MNB on EoSD Extra. Why do I always die into something random + QED? The random thing can be either the stage, Kagome Kagome or Starbow Break. When I finally managed to not die in one of these, I ran into a bullet in And There Will be None, plus the unavoidable death at QED. That the motherfuck, really.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on December 03, 2012, 10:57:20 AM
wriggle, don't feel bad about it. when I was perfecting UFO extra, I never had a 1MNB run. I always died to 2 things until I got the run. until now I din't manage to only die once.

maybe it's the same for you and you will NMNB the stage without ever doing a 1MNB
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Goldom on December 03, 2012, 08:08:19 PM
I just made it to Nue's timeout without losing a single life... then lost one at the end of it which I normally do fine. That shattered my nerve and I proceeded to die twice and bomb three times on Grudge Bow, which is normally a single bomb for me  :wat:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Reiko on December 03, 2012, 08:38:05 PM
iuqergqdhfhngjsdf  :flamingv:

Curse you, stupid computer, for ruining all my runs since yesterday with your ghosting keys.
Died to Release of the Id because of it, just as I thought I would capture it for the first time...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Yatakarasu on December 03, 2012, 09:22:58 PM
Goes into Kanako's last card with three lives. Leaves with none. I got cocky. At least I cleared it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on December 04, 2012, 02:53:40 AM
AHHAAHA!! Oh gods no, how the hell did I manage this poorly?  :(

PCB Lunatic. No-bombs. Game over on Yuyuko's streaming shit. Entered Yuyu with 4 or 5 lives idk. Lost them all at her. Lost two lives to Prismrivers too as well as three to Youmu. I already have a no-bombs 1cc of this game but that one is utter shit too so i'm not happy about this yet. Problem is just that I don't enjoy PCB that much so getting a satisfactory run is seemingly impossible.

The two lives I lost on Prismriver Sisters were on their first spell and their third spell. Neither of those are hard in ANY way. Yet I managed to screw it up. How? How is it possible to be so fail? I dunno, it makes me depressed. I'm going to read some loli manga to make me happy again. Ciao.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on December 04, 2012, 02:57:43 AM
maybe it's because it's almost 4.00 am, zengeku. at least if you played just now, anyway. my performance always drops at around 1.00 am :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on December 04, 2012, 03:18:40 AM
It's 4am yeah but since I'm still unoccupied with anything work/education related until January my sleep cycle has been messed a bit up meaning I woke up at 4pm today so I'm actually only 12 hours into my day atm.

No, really. I think the real reason that I'm just not doing very well with PCB is because I just don't play it very much as I find it to be pretty damn boring. This entire run can pretty much be explained as the result of me not really playing it regularly combined with exceptionally bad playing.

Being a terrible player I shouldn't expect any kinds of results from No-bombing a game that I don't know very well. I think that's really all there is to it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Validon98 on December 04, 2012, 03:49:59 AM
This isn't a danmaku game, but it's Touhou and I'm raging at it, so...
FUSHIGI NO GENSOKYO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Seppo Hovi on December 04, 2012, 10:14:22 AM
AHHAAHA!! Oh gods no, how the hell did I manage this poorly?  :(
You call that bad? I'll show you bad.

(http://i.imgur.com/TKJ8h.jpg)

Yeah dude yeah.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on December 04, 2012, 03:39:50 PM
Yes. That is quite something. Though you did play under NF restrictions right? That would explain a lot.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Wriggle on December 05, 2012, 01:48:51 AM
>Perfecting Flan, gets to ATWTBN.
>EoSD crashes.

:colonveeplusalpha::colonveeplusalpha::colonveeplusalpha::colonveeplusalpha::colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Yatakarasu on December 05, 2012, 02:21:26 AM
"Oh sweet, I finally got to Suwako's second survival card."
-fails after about 5 seconds-
...
 :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: RNG on December 05, 2012, 03:05:25 AM
NMNBNT first 3 stages. Didn't make it to Stage 5.

Died to Seiga midboss non, the third wave of the post-Seiga spam (I never die there), Tongling Yoshika, and her 3rd non.

I've perfected Stage 4 in practice... urgh. Still convinced 90% of the difficulty here is Marisa's explosion effects making it impossible to see a thing on Tongling. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: I have no name on December 05, 2012, 06:11:52 AM
I lost a no bomb MoF lunatic run to Sanae.
I had 3 lives going into the fight.

 :colonveeplusalpha:

Same run also died once to each of Nitori's spells.  ALL of them.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on December 05, 2012, 03:37:08 PM
IHNN how about going into stage 5 with 7 lives and leaving with 1. happened to me and I don't know how I managed to die 6 times. all I know is that I failed every spell, but 1 in that stage. including the midboss. that was the best run I'v ever had until I hit stage 5. I gave up on the no bomb run because of that awful performance on a stage that I should be able to consistenly perfect.

RNG if marisa's bothering you, play reimu :V she's a much better shottype anyway. or youmu, that way you don't have to worry about tongling yoshika, too. she _absolutely_ trivializes that spell. I have a 100% capture rate on it with her
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Bang Jan on December 05, 2012, 05:30:55 PM
*Tries to time out Guse Flash*

*Dies at the 0 second mark*

OK it official, Miko cheats!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on December 05, 2012, 06:02:47 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/DEDaz.png)

Death by Nue.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on December 05, 2012, 06:21:09 PM
I just hit the 1800 mark on SFN with reimu solo. still trying to time it out. my best attempts were somewhere in the 30s. I do have like 2 replays saved from that, and I think when I have enough "good fails" I'll compile them into a video and upload it, just to show how much bullshit luck I have on some runs. only to die later.

the spell is still great. my most played spell in the entire series. hell, I have played all of TDs spells less than that one (somewhere in the 4000s as of now if I combine it with every character)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on December 05, 2012, 06:46:42 PM
SFN is great but kind of a trial of endurance if you get bored. VoWG-esque, only I'd argue that it's less boring than VoWG, so that's something.

The best I got is two attempts ending at 5 seconds, with another attempt at 6, iirc.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: RNG on December 05, 2012, 07:02:16 PM
RNG if marisa's bothering you, play reimu :V she's a much better shottype anyway. or youmu, that way you don't have to worry about tongling yoshika, too. she _absolutely_ trivializes that spell. I have a 100% capture rate on it with her

I'm partly playing Marisa because she doesn't trivialize anything like Reimu's homing amulets or Youmu's slashes do. I'm more interested in NBNT Marisa than NBNT period. Still, the explosion gfx piss me off enough that I might just switch to Sanae.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Lepetit89 on December 05, 2012, 07:14:49 PM
I just hit the 1800 mark on SFN with reimu solo. still trying to time it out. my best attempts were somewhere in the 30s. I do have like 2 replays saved from that, and I think when I have enough "good fails" I'll compile them into a video and upload it, just to show how much bullshit luck I have on some runs. only to die later.

the spell is still great. my most played spell in the entire series. hell, I have played all of TDs spells less than that one (somewhere in the 4000s as of now if I combine it with every character)

Good grief, you did say we were the same in some regards, but I didn't think it would go as far as Spell Histories. Stopped at 1950 with Reimu&Yukari today, though I've made tremendous progress since 1500 or so; got to 24 today, but quite a few attempts make it to 40 now, which was my previous best until today.

The Spellcard definitely is a lot of fun, at least now that I can actually read many parts of it somewhat reliably. Still lots of luck involved, but fun nonetheless.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Elysia on December 05, 2012, 08:28:35 PM
Okay, so doing Mountain of Faith Normal with no vertical no bombs no focus, I wasn't expecting to actually win. Fair enough.

But COME ON, Aya, did you really have to kill me at such a rapid pace that I didn't even get to Illusionary Dominance despite only having died once on the entire run before getting to you?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on December 05, 2012, 08:50:07 PM
reimu's homing amulets don't trivialize anything. they're too weak for that. youmu does make some things easier, though. so yeah. alright, if you want to keep going as marisa (or sanae) good luck!

BT I don't get bored of it, that's the thing. You're right it's 100 (in-game) seconds, so it's a fairly long spell, but it's so fun that I haven't gotten bored of it yet. I will certainly stop once it frustrates me, though. GFW extra was...a bad experience. :V I just posted it in here because it's not an accomplishment to fail a spellcard 1800 times :P

lepetit: well, I didn't expect it'd be that much, either. but yeah, I've gotten a lot better at this, too. just 2 days ago I couldn't make it past the 50 seconds. now a lot of runs end eosomewhere in the 40s or 30s. though, I haven't gotten so far that the bullet limit was reached, so there's still a lot of work to do. I'l definitely get this done!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: RNG on December 05, 2012, 10:53:14 PM
3.8 lives into Seiga. Game over to Tongling Yoshika.

Shit.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Goldom on December 06, 2012, 02:13:47 AM
So I finally decided to play Koumajou since I love Metroidvanias and I've been meaning to for a while...

BUT NO it's old-fashioned whip things-style Castlevania. I didn't see that coming and I am awful at this. Finally turned lives up because I was sick of spending 15 minutes in a stage for 3 tries at a boss that lasted 20 seconds. That got me to the final, but I've now tossed 60+ lives away at the final boss without success.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on December 06, 2012, 04:28:10 AM
The key to playing that game properly is getting a decent bit of practice in on the bosses. As you get better at it, the game becomes a lot more fun. Also, you should try out the sequel to it rather than the first game since the sequel is far superior. At least in my opinion.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Lepetit89 on December 06, 2012, 10:47:06 AM
lepetit: well, I didn't expect it'd be that much, either. but yeah, I've gotten a lot better at this, too. just 2 days ago I couldn't make it past the 50 seconds. now a lot of runs end eosomewhere in the 40s or 30s. though, I haven't gotten so far that the bullet limit was reached, so there's still a lot of work to do. I'l definitely get this done!

Alright, best of luck to you, then!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Yatakarasu on December 07, 2012, 06:14:34 PM
Went into Seiga with 3 lives.
(http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/6889/th13e2012120713130285.png)
DAMN YOU, SEIGA!  :getdown:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: RNG on December 07, 2012, 07:02:36 PM
Yeah that's p much how Seiga works. Her attacks are all so incredibly easy to mess up on and they all last so damn long. Don't feel bad about it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Yatakarasu on December 07, 2012, 07:13:36 PM
Yeah, they aren't that bad really, but (as you said) they are so easy to screw up. Expect, "Toggling Yoshika." That one just sucks in general.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on December 07, 2012, 07:50:59 PM
"So easy to screw up"
Fights like this need to have your bomb finger on the bomb button at all times.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Chuckolator on December 07, 2012, 09:46:19 PM
That's how I roll. :dealwithit:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Chalros22 on December 07, 2012, 10:36:51 PM
So I thought it would be cool to try and no focus no vertical timeout Fader. I died 200 times and said one last try cuse I need to eat. The following happened

RAGE (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=25705)

So depressing.

Fights like this need to have your bomb finger on the bomb button at all times.

I dont have a "bomb" finger. I have a "focus" finger and a general "hurt stuff" finger.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Makedounia on December 07, 2012, 11:29:05 PM
I tried TD for the first time and I was shocked how easy it was. I already knew it would be easy but THAT easy? I lost my first life at Futo and got game over at Miko. Fair enough, I didn't expect to get 1cc blind anyway. Then, I tried to beat Mokou. Made it to possessed by phoenix (first time) with 2 lives and 1 bomb. I don't know what I did, but I managed to get past that card with 1 life and 1 bomb. I ALMOST won, she had barely any life left, but no. I tried again, best run so far, messed it all up at fujiyama volcano. Go me!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Wriggle on December 08, 2012, 02:43:19 AM
I dont have a "bomb" finger. I have a "focus" finger and a general "hurt stuff" finger.

It's almost impossible to use survival bombs in that way. Try practicing using the middle finger to shoot, so you'll have two free fingers to bomb/focus. ;)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: RNG on December 08, 2012, 02:58:14 AM
ring finger to shoot

all day erry day
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on December 08, 2012, 02:59:53 AM
I use middle finger and my index finger to shoot :V for some reason, they're always both on the shooting button. but it does enable me to use survival bombs, since I only need to press x for a split second
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Yatakarasu on December 08, 2012, 04:47:12 AM
For me it's: Pinky/Ring = focus, Middle = fire, Pointer = bomb. Then I make adjustments when playing TD and GFW.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Goldom on December 08, 2012, 05:12:18 AM
Really the "optimal" way would be to get used to focusing with pinky, so that you can have fingers all the way to C for TD/GFW, but that's beyond my dexterity. I just use three fingers and switch the last off X to C when trance is full... and I only play GFW with a footpedal bound to C  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on December 08, 2012, 08:00:21 AM
Really the "optimal" way would be to get used to focusing with pinky, so that you can have fingers all the way to C for TD/GFW, but that's beyond my dexterity. I just use three fingers and switch the last off X to C when trance is full... and I only play GFW with a footpedal bound to C  :V
I'd love to see someone use their thumb to successfully manage trance. It's so clumsy.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Lepetit89 on December 08, 2012, 11:03:29 AM
Really the "optimal" way would be to get used to focusing with pinky, so that you can have fingers all the way to C for TD/GFW, but that's beyond my dexterity. I just use three fingers and switch the last off X to C when trance is full... and I only play GFW with a footpedal bound to C  :V

I do it exactly the same way, though I simply didn't use C for GFW. A little too hard for me to get used to something different at this point, though I might give it a try if the C-button does get some use again in the next game since that might mean that it's going to remain in use in future games.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Chalros22 on December 08, 2012, 12:47:39 PM
It's almost impossible to use survival bombs in that way. Try practicing using the middle finger to shoot, so you'll have two free fingers to bomb/focus. ;)

I've gone this long my way, and plus I hate using bombs just for survival. I feel more accomplished when I finally succeed. Also my hands are quite large so the area would be cramped if I use 3 fingers. I tend to just roll my finger over when I need to bomb. The problem became when I wanted to trance while I was doing TD lunatic. I almost had to look at the keyboard half the time to make sure I didn't bomb instead of trance.

footpedal bound to C  :V

Use the ctrl key :P
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Limian on December 08, 2012, 01:23:42 PM
Since the German keyboard goes [Shift] [<] [Y] [X] (with y being the shooting button), I found pinky - focus, middle - shooting, index - bombing always the only logical choice (the c button is a bit stupid, but I haven't got into GFW yet, and you don't have to trance that much). I was wondering what you guys were doing until I found out that the American keyboard just has a longer Shift key.
Fair enough, my positioning is nothing but comfortable for most games anyway.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Wriggle on December 08, 2012, 02:01:50 PM
For me it's: Pinky/Ring = focus, Middle = fire, Pointer = bomb. Then I make adjustments when playing TD and GFW.

Yeah that's exactly how I use them.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on December 08, 2012, 02:30:28 PM
I don't use c for GFW. I just tap the whole time. I don't get why people don't do that. during my GFW extra perfects attempts, I sometimes did like 50 attempts in one go and always tapped, my finger didn't get tired, so what's keeping everone else from doing it? using c is just so...ugh. I can't get used to it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Chalros22 on December 08, 2012, 04:49:26 PM
I don't use c for GFW. I just tap the whole time. I don't get why people don't do that. during my GFW extra perfects attempts, I sometimes did like 50 attempts in one go and always tapped, my finger didn't get tired, so what's keeping everone else from doing it? using c is just so...ugh. I can't get used to it.

I always tap in GFW. it's not like you have to be a button mashing pro to keep a good fire rate up.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Limian on December 08, 2012, 06:15:34 PM
After reaching Yukari 3/3, the following happens to me:
1 death on first nonspell, get 1up after reality/dreams and the 500 point extend
2 deaths, 1 border break and 1 deathbomb on second nonspell
2 deaths on motion/silence
1 border break and 1 death on light/darkness
Apparently all my dodging skills went completely down the drain in this run, even though the stage portion was rather decent.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on December 08, 2012, 08:15:52 PM
I don't use c for GFW. I just tap the whole time. I don't get why people don't do that.

Because tapping to fire reminds me of shmups from the 80's and 90's and by that nature makes me fucking pissed because old shmups sucks.  :V

The better reason is that it's just because that's what I'm used to. Holding down Z or C is no different to me since I play many arcade shooters too so I'm used to having two fire buttons. I also think that it's easier for me to concentrate on the dodging when I can just hold down a button instead of tapping it but that might just be placebo.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Yatakarasu on December 08, 2012, 11:33:57 PM
SA adventures with ReimuB (normal): I just lost 1 life to stage 5 and 4 to Orin.  :V That run was going so well too. Then I game over'd to Fixed Star. :fail:

Stay tuned for Yatakarasu's next installment of "Failing at things she should be able to do!"
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Byronyello on December 09, 2012, 01:20:40 AM
Inserting my two pence on' what fingers I use': Little finger for focus, ring finger for fire, middle finger for bomb, and index finger for trance/autofire etc. I don't get why most people don't do it this way, though I guess it's due to keyboard layout. (I live in the United Kingdom you see.)

Anyway, the pre-Kogasa part of UFO's Extra stage drives me up the wall. The only reason post-Kogasa doesn't drive me up the wall more is because I can't reach it enough times to gauge how much I hate it. Nue is really fun, but the actual stage isn't entertaining, just difficult (I would say that this reflects the nature of UFO as a whole.) I mean, I've got to Heiankyou twice.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Aeteas on December 09, 2012, 03:26:19 AM
Almost perfected Ran and then I failed Izuna Gongen. :(
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zil on December 09, 2012, 04:12:56 AM
I don't get why most people don't do it this way,
I find that my pinky is slower than my ring finger. It's also difficult to move it independently. For example, try bending your pinky finger without moving your ring finger at the same time. That's not something everyone is capable of. I always tapped Z because of that. Using the pinky made it harder to do complicated inputs.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: PMW on December 09, 2012, 05:58:05 PM
>Trying to perfect LLS Marisa
>Boss has a silver of life left
>SUMMON ORBS
>Panic
>Get Orb punched in the face as Marisa is exploding
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/3747ca7d72e2747b756bebb77a0dae37/tumblr_meryt5QpqQ1r6ui98o1_1280.png)
>Rage
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Wriggle on December 09, 2012, 07:18:42 PM
For the fucking third time I reached Ran's Izuna Gongen in a Perfect attempt and failed there. I know she's easy, but looks like I FORGOT how to enter the safespot. And the red bubbles love to be aimed in the worst possible position, which barely allows me to shoot Ran. Will I never best that NMNB1bb I did back in my birthday? :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Tsym on December 09, 2012, 07:26:50 PM
GFW Marisa is mean. Extra boss fights generally have some odd gimmick about them, but Marisa... Come on how is that even fair? And those non-spells? What? Really? Sigh. And I haven't even gotten past Open Universe yet. Blarrrggh.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on December 09, 2012, 07:55:50 PM
marisa's odd gimmick are ass-fuck annoying familiars with 100% sprite-hitbox. her nons are really tough, but planning a bomb here and there should help you with them. especially on the 6th before open universe. are you doing a first clear on it or some sort of challenge?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Tsym on December 09, 2012, 09:02:47 PM
marisa's odd gimmick are ass-fuck annoying familiars with 100% sprite-hitbox. her nons are really tough, but planning a bomb here and there should help you with them. especially on the 6th before open universe. are you doing a first clear on it or some sort of challenge?
I'm doing a first clear. After a few more attempts I've gotten to Blazing Star, but Perseid and Open Universe are particularly wrecking me every time. Big Crunch to a lesser extent. Personally I think it's just that I have no ability to read the arcing motions of the orbs in Open Universe and I don't have a good timing down for ice in Perseid. It's something that I have to work on, but I don't think I've ever encountered an extra boss that has stonewalled me with only a few spell cards as well as Marisa. At some point extra bosses become not messing up, but Marisa actually feels like a fairly tough and desperate fight for resources, especially near the end.

Edit: Oh, and the fact that I can't attempt the stage too many times because tapping z or holding c/ctrl wrecks my hand is fairly annoying.

Double Edit:
(http://i.imgur.com/qMLXy.jpg)
Sigh. I would try again, but my hand already hurts even though I only tried like two times. Alas, physical limitations...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on December 10, 2012, 10:52:26 AM
This was my second time reaching Fairy Destruction Ray. Or, more appropriately, this was my second time surviving Blazing Star Like Tag.

I died on the second phase with 166% PF. I was stubborn -- I should have bombed, even though I probably would have been JUST short of another PF for the last phase. The final phase is EASIER than the second phase, and this would've been my second time facing it, so hopefully I'd have been less... panicked. Acing it, probably.

I don't know if to be fed up more by that, my inability to dodge more than ten seconds of Blazing Star Like Tag or the fact that I fared so MISERABLY to the nonspells in this run. That, and Perseid. Good lord.

Right before this came a run that was by far my best run of the stage, and probably my best playing ever. I'd No Deathed Big Crunch AND Master Spark Like Flashlight, AND died only once to Open Universe, AND died only once to Perseid. Yet I didn't even survive Blazing Star Like Tag because I played like a sloth and the beginning of the fight was mediocre.

The world hates me. I hate the world back.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Makedounia on December 10, 2012, 01:45:00 PM
I played TD with Sanae, made it to Miko without dying, dies to the last spell. Makes me want to punch someone...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on December 10, 2012, 06:00:10 PM
playing on 90 fps is pure dope, but I can't dpdge stuff for shits. I died 4 times to MoF stage 2, game over'd to stage 6 and sotrm day and PWG are pure nightmares now.

not to mention all the pixel perfection that is momiji and sanae's midboss spell. incidentially, I can handle the "hard" part of stage 5 pretty well. (I mean the first half, generally. the re-directing and stuff).

man, I just don't know, but it feels like I'm playing 2 difficulties above what I am usually doing. and all I did was make the game 50% faster.

there has also been the idea of some NB runs swirling in my head, but I don't want to quit 0 fps now because it was too difficult. blergh.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: RNG on December 10, 2012, 07:15:20 PM
No-bomb runs are a great way to play Touhou ;V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Karisa on December 11, 2012, 06:53:33 AM
OK, more SA Lunatic 4-suicides-for-score (3 to Parsee for graze and one for bombing stage 4 Orin's point items) 1cc attempts. When I made it past Utsuho's first 2 cards and still had an extra life remaining, I thought I was going to finally get the clear... then this happened. With full power, too.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee487/KarisaMirisame/th11lra-1719600260.png)

On the plus side, wow my score is higher than expected. Considering SA Lunatic's clear bonus is guaranteed to be at least 206 million, that means I would have reached 1.9 billion by clearing... I think this might be my best chance at non-IN 2 billion, actually.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Arcengal on December 11, 2012, 07:03:58 PM
Marine Benefit extra is just destroying me. It looked so easy watching videos of it, but when I decided to play it...
(same was true for 8 Million Laughing Gods).

I made it to Gathering Void: White and well yeah died there because the card is bullshit.

Edit: Beat it after realised it rewarded you for not dying, so went SA on it's ass.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zil on December 11, 2012, 07:51:28 PM
Oh hey another 90 million. (http://oi45.tinypic.com/10e54jo.jpg)

Anex threw a fit in the last two rounds against Yumemi. Completely lost control, and nothing I did would salvage it. I had difficulty entering my name into the scoreboard. My hands hurt from punching my desk. Fuck everything.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Elysia on December 11, 2012, 08:55:06 PM
Why does every non-Reimu character have a deathbomb time of negative 2 seconds?

It wouldn't be so bad if I weren't doing something stupidly ridiculous in PCB that Sakuya is absolutely 100% necessary for...and I would have actually pulled it off if the game hadn't decided to ignore my deathbomb...FOUR TIMES.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: K.B. on December 11, 2012, 11:17:13 PM
Anex threw a fit in the last two rounds against Yumemi. Completely lost control, and nothing I did would salvage it.
D:

On a lighter note, I laughed at your hs edit (though I certainly hope it doesn't come to that!).
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Yatakarasu on December 12, 2012, 01:37:48 AM
More adventures in SA:
I lost 2 lives during Okuu's first card in a ReimuB 1cc attempt today.  :getdown:
Then I game over'd to her second non...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Makedounia on December 12, 2012, 09:22:19 AM
I start Nue's Undefined darkness card with 4 lives, leave with 1. This is "that spellcard" which takes at least 2 lives everytime I try it (except first time when I got timeout without losing any bombs or lives). I highly doubt that is never going to happen again though.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Elysia on December 12, 2012, 11:45:29 AM
I start Nue's Undefined darkness card with 4 lives, leave with 1. This is "that spellcard" which takes at least 2 lives everytime I try it (except first time when I got timeout without losing any bombs or lives). I highly doubt that is never going to happen again though.
If it helps, here's my method for dealing with that card (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRaaMtzk_I8). Keep directing Nue to the corners (or so, the path is quite forgiving in that regard), in the same order. It does make the card take longer, but it's vastly safer.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on December 12, 2012, 12:42:44 PM
you could also try to keep her up on top of the screen. dodge the bullet, go left/right to her, when she moves go down again and voil?, you have spread out bullet and can end the card quickly. Malkyrian's method is effective, too, but I'm not sure if you could end the card before the timer runs our that way :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Makedounia on December 12, 2012, 06:58:58 PM
Thanks! I'll definitely try that when I try to beat Nue next time. Not today though, after getting my ass handed to me by Yuugi I don't really feel like playing at all.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Elysia on December 13, 2012, 02:28:12 PM
> makes a recording that lasts 17 seconds

> 3 seconds pass on the ingame timer throughout the recording

...I don't think I've ever had lag this bad before.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Yatakarasu on December 13, 2012, 06:56:17 PM
Died during the last 8 seconds of Suwako's "Red Frog of Houei 4," simultaneously failing the stage and first capture of that card. Also I had about 3 bombs.  Why~
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zork787 on December 14, 2012, 03:01:42 AM
Let me recite my FW run in a nutshell:

*Holds Z Key to charge, dies just as I release the key* that pretty much all my deaths in a nutshell!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: RNG on December 14, 2012, 03:11:51 AM
Pretty much every time I die in Stages 1 to 3 of PoDD. There's no excuse.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on December 14, 2012, 03:35:00 AM
kinkaku-ji at 90 fps. that is all.

there were other scenes that became really tough (8-7, 9-4, 5-1), but that one is just...and I haven't even started stage 10 or extra yet :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Elysia on December 14, 2012, 03:50:29 AM
kinkaku-ji at 90 fps. that is all.

(http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad256/Malkyrian/th0952012-05-0600-24-35-81.png)

...Meh, it wasn't that hard BV

In seriousness though, Kinkaku-ji was the second-hardest scene when I did that game at 90 FPS. The hardest bar none was 10-6.

Here's my clear video of 10-6 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUdcNgFl1mA). I strongly suggest you use that as a reference, so you don't have to go through the same trauma I did. :ohdear:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Arcengal on December 15, 2012, 09:41:31 AM
You took 7777 pictures before you cleared?

That's EPIC.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Bang Jan on December 15, 2012, 09:56:08 AM
Dear every non PC98 Touhou game ever. (Including the ones with spell practice.)]

Get savestates ffs.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Seppo Hovi on December 15, 2012, 10:06:25 AM
They have a cool feature called Stage practice, though. Obviously it might lenghten your attempts at whatever by five to ten minutes at worst, making things less spammable. Not a big amount of time lost, if you ask me. Try new stuff with the rest of the stages, if they get boring.
Thing is I don't want to go through long and boring stages just to try to time out a spellcard.
Patience, is it unheard of?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Bang Jan on December 15, 2012, 10:09:03 AM
Thing is I don't want to go through long and boring stages just to try to time out a spellcard.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on December 15, 2012, 02:05:44 PM
Well here's a tip for you BangJan. Successfully time out the spell before you get bored of the stage... or be like me and keep grinding until you stop sucking for those 45 seconds of glory you were gunning for.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on December 15, 2012, 09:51:35 PM
Marine Benefit is super weird >_>

Easy is easy, Normal is easy, Extra is easy, Hard is mostly easy, and Lunatic is a slap in the face.

Does anyone else feel this way? :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Bang Jan on December 15, 2012, 10:03:18 PM
Patience, is it unheard of?

Indeed! Which is why someone needs to make a non buggy version of hourglass. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Elysia on December 15, 2012, 10:24:59 PM
Marine Benefit is super weird >_>

Easy is easy, Normal is easy, Extra is easy, Hard is mostly easy, and Lunatic is a slap in the face.

Does anyone else feel this way? :V
Yes. I've 1CCed five Touhous thus far, and of these, MB was the hardest by a mile. Best advice I have is to make sure you unlock Stage Practice for all six stages and make damn sure you can handle The Eight Million Laughing Gods and stage 6 Kasumi, because these are the most likely points to end a run if you aren't prepared for them.

Anyway...why is it that I constantly enter a long Extra stage to time out a card, then shoot during the card anyway just to attempt a perfect I'll invariably fail at? Not helping is that everything before said card is trivial so it's never a question of whether I have a perfect run going, it's why I even care.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Byaaakuren on December 15, 2012, 11:34:41 PM
I don't know how to Koishi (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=25893)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Validon98 on December 16, 2012, 03:27:52 AM
Finally made it to Yukari's final spell. And then I slam right into a bullet.

Goddamnit Yukari.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: MTSranger on December 16, 2012, 06:19:04 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/MweeW.jpg)
Guess which bullet killed me :V
Answer:
http://i.imgur.com/UImqZ.jpg
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Makedounia on December 16, 2012, 01:54:52 PM
Tried to 1cc U.F.O with Marisa B. I started stage 5 with 6 lives, left with 2. Game over at stage 6. Go me!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Alicirno on December 16, 2012, 02:11:02 PM
I don't know why, but Marisa's EX Attack Earthlight Ray laser thingies seem to be impossible to dodge when I make a serious attempt to beat PoFV Extra.

:V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on December 17, 2012, 12:15:27 AM
playingon anything less than 90 fps makes me puke now :V everything is so fuck slow that I feel like I could eat dinner before the next bullet hits me after dodging something.

this is pain. why did I ever start 90 fps? it's not like I am even good at it. now I will never be able to do anything ;_;

I can totally understand why BT didn't go for NMNB marisa after hundreds of 90 fps attempts. fuck, this is painful. I will never be able to no bomb, unless I go for it at 90 fps. OR go through all the pain.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Goldom on December 17, 2012, 01:21:38 AM
playingon anything less than 90 fps makes me puke now :V everything is so fuck slow that I feel like I could eat dinner before the next bullet hits me after dodging something.

this is pain. why did I ever start 90 fps? it's not like I am even good at it. now I will never be able to do anything ;_;

I can totally understand why BT didn't go for NMNB marisa after hundreds of 90 fps attempts. fuck, this is painful. I will never be able to no bomb, unless I go for it at 90 fps. OR go through all the pain.

THIS IS WHY YOU DON'T DO DRUGS.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on December 17, 2012, 01:36:48 AM
my character also moves fucking slow. I can't stand it

chiyuri's speed is a godsend after playing 90 fps :V

oh yeah, speaking of chiyuri:

PoDD chiyuri. enter yumemi will  full lives. game over.

wat the fuck? I played on normal, too. god, I'm terrible at this touhou thing.

I don't do drugs :< just...well, I suppose ultra, 90 fps and other mods are shmup drugs of some sort...

what the fuck am I saying. I'm going full retard right now :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on December 17, 2012, 09:40:33 AM
I'd say "you've been warned" but I don't think I actually warned you. WELL, I DID COMPLAIN ABOUT IT MYSELF SO NONTHELESS.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on December 17, 2012, 02:32:11 PM
Don't worry Sakurei, the next Touhou game will be fast enough that you won't notice that it's only running at 60FPS.

Right ZUN?  :3
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on December 17, 2012, 06:00:59 PM
don't worry. I will just play at 90 fps forever. at some point, it will feel like 60 and then I'm going for 90 fps no bomb runs :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: SirChaotick on December 18, 2012, 09:26:40 AM
I WAS DOING SO EXTREMELY WELL.

MoF Lunatic. Goddammit. I had an awesome Aya fight, first capturing Saruta Cross, then capturing Terukuni Throughout The World for the very first time at 0 power. This led me to reaching Kanako with no less than FOUR lives, a solid three better than my last attempt, in addition to three bombs. I was set.

Bomb first nonspell twice. Nothing out of the ordinary.
Die on Medoteko a hair before capturing with one bomb in stock. Okay, no big deal.
Do guncannon without incident, do an awesome job on Divining Crop. Very nearly captured it before panic bombing.
Bomb third nonspell without incident.

Yamato Torus declares. My mother and sister start yelling at each other with me in the middle.
I DIE. THRICE. WITH ALL BOMBS LOST. EIGHT OF THEM.

Bomb the next two attacks, land in Wind God with three bombs and no lives where there should have been no bombs and three lives.
Somehow I do a far better job of it than I ever did before, dodging to about halfway when I succumb to a wall.
I would MOST DEFINITELY have done it was it not for those FREAKING KNIVES. THOSE KNIVES.

Allow me to type  a string of all caps gibberish RIGHT NOW BECAUSE AARARRARGHHHQFFQDFFQSDFMQSDAERZAERREESSDFFFQQAAAFOQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQDFZERAERMERFGHDFVQSDHBBZHFMQBMVQBFMUMFHQBFMDVBMQQFVVPEAQFDVYDSQGFSDYZEQCQS
*pichun*
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Byaaakuren on December 18, 2012, 09:31:25 AM
I was never really good at the card where the three fairies rammed into the walls (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=25919)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on December 18, 2012, 04:45:14 PM
Okay, that's it. I'm done with DS 90FPS. At least for now.

The controls are just so hideously bad that it makes me want to throw up. This is not a challenge, it's me rolling dice hoping that I don't randomly run into bullets with one of my three equally useless and unwieldy movement speeds. Back to 60 FPS with me and enough with this arbitrary bullshit. It's not fun at all.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on December 18, 2012, 05:18:52 PM
is there a scene in particular that gives you the dice rolling feel? I mean, some of the later ones in StB were like that, but I cannot say there was much I couldn't read. with like 1 or 2 exceptions + the ones you aren't  supposed to read (I.e StB 10-2)

as for controls: I felt the same. but I got used to at least the focused and charge speed. unfocused is still uncontrollable bullshit, though.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Szayelaporro Granz on December 18, 2012, 05:28:18 PM
Died at the last 2 seconds when trying to capture "Possessed by Phoenix" at spellcard practice and it took me another few hundred attempts to finally capture it (I was being stubborn for not watching the replay again for advice) TAT
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on December 18, 2012, 06:00:12 PM
It's actually all scenes that aren't easy. I feel like every time I clear a tough one it's just because I got lucky. The unfocused movement speed is absolutely uncontrollable, the focused movement speed is way too fast and the charge speed is way too slow.

The Ultra patches is certainly the way to go if you want to make the photography games challenging. At least that way you can maintain precise controls. I don't want to spend 400+shots waiting to capture something by chance. It's frustrating as hell and there are better things for me to spend my time on than trying to ruin Double Spoiler for myself. 90 FPS sucks, i'll just stick to NMNB things, pacifism, maybe a few scores in the future and 1cc's of other non-Touhou games.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on December 18, 2012, 06:09:34 PM
man, when you say "all scenes that aren't easy" it makes you sound as though you don't like hard stuff. I know what you mean and there were scenes in StB where I felt the same (9-6 and 10-6 in particular).

but unlike 90 fps, ultra gives you outright impossible stuff and that is even less fun. I know whzat you mean, definitely and I agree that DS 9-7 is complete bullshit on 90 fps, but it also makes boring easy stuff actually challenging (like DS 8-1. god, that's tough now. used to be one of the easier scene in stage 8 ).

I don't agree with focused speed being too fast, though. it's still slower than going unfocused in 60 fps. with reimu.

it's also slower than chiyuri :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on December 18, 2012, 06:17:53 PM
man, when you say "all scenes that aren't easy" it makes you sound as though you don't like hard stuff.

Well I do, I just don't like 'hard because I can't control this'.

Quote
but unlike 90 fps, ultra gives you outright impossible stuff and that is even less fun.

It is regrettable that the Ultra patch makes certain things impossible but the things that are actually humanly possible are infinitely more fun than anything 90FPS related due to having good controls in my opinion. I had a lot of fun capturing as many scenes as I possibly could in StB/DS ultra.

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I don't agree with focused speed being too fast, though. it's still slower than going unfocused in 60 fps. with reimu.

Well I also happen to be of the opinion that unfocused Reimu 60 FPS is pretty much useless for anything involving any sort of precision much less anything that requires fast precision like DS 8-1 90FPS.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on December 19, 2012, 01:24:50 PM
I thought 9-7 would be the most annoying scene, but no. it was 9-5. holy fuck, satori you are a cunt in this game. out of 4 scenes you have, 3 are a pain. what the actual fuck.

I mean, I somehow managed to clear stage 9 (completely, with 9-7 and all :V) but FUCK that was annoying. saying it now: 9-5 is the most annoying scene in the game if you play at 90 fps. I kid you not. diving in becomes impossible due to the speed of everything. holy shit.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Lepetit89 on December 19, 2012, 03:55:20 PM
I thought 9-7 would be the most annoying scene, but no. it was 9-5. holy fuck, satori you are a cunt in this game. out of 4 scenes you have, 3 are a pain. what the actual fuck.

I mean, I somehow managed to clear stage 9 (completely, with 9-7 and all :V) but FUCK that was annoying. saying it now: 9-5 is the most annoying scene in the game if you play at 90 fps. I kid you not. diving in becomes impossible due to the speed of everything. holy shit.

Just thinking about 9-7 at 90 FPS makes me shudder. Out of curiosity, what do you mean by diving in?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on December 19, 2012, 04:10:58 PM
in 9-5 satori runs away when you want to take a picture, so you need to make a quick dive into the heart and snap the picture. that's at least the way I have done this at normal speed. but due to everything being fast as fuck now, doing that always resulted in me dying. so I had to find an alternative method. that one is probably safer at normal speed, too :V

9-7 wasn't as bad as 8-1, to be honest. the first picture is a free one anyway. the second one is all about reading the bullets. and the third one is something between luck and read. it was difficult, but much easier than the original kinkaku-ji or 8-1. how the fuck did something so simple turn into the horror anyway? I still don't get how orin did that
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Lepetit89 on December 19, 2012, 04:18:51 PM
in 9-5 satori runs away when you want to take a picture, so you need to make a quick dive into the heart and snap the picture. that's at least the way I have done this at normal speed. but due to everything being fast as fuck now, doing that always resulted in me dying. so I had to find an alternative method. that one is probably safer at normal speed, too :V

Ah, I see, I see, that's why I was wondering why you dived in; the approach I came up with back when I dealt with it simply consists of waiting at the bottom of the screen, letting Satori dive in, so to speak. Like here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gZqhFOatx4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gZqhFOatx4).

Surprised that 8-1 got much worse, though.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on December 19, 2012, 04:24:52 PM
I tried that, too, but I couldn't dodge the fast hearts at one point and ended up dying. I'm not going to spoiler (lol, because that's important :V) how I did it, but I suppose there aren't many (if any) possibility left.

yeah, I was just as surprised, but the red phase is terrible and painful. I'd choose 9-7 over 8-1 every day when I am forced to play them at 90 fps.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Lepetit89 on December 19, 2012, 04:26:14 PM
I tried that, too, but I couldn't dodge the fast hearts at one point and ended up dying. I'm not going to spoiler (lol, because that's important :V) how I did it, but I suppose there aren't many (if any) possibility left.

yeah, I was just as surprised, but the red phase is terrible and painful. I'd choose 9-7 over 8-1 every day when I am forced to play them at 90 fps.

Haha, I see, I can certainly see that turning into an issue at 90 FPS. Well, looking forward to seeing what you came up with either way!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: ARF on December 19, 2012, 04:47:24 PM
I tried that, too, but I couldn't dodge the fast hearts at one point and ended up dying. I'm not going to spoiler (lol, because that's important :V) how I did it, but I suppose there aren't many (if any) possibility left.

yeah, I was just as surprised, but the red phase is terrible and painful. I'd choose 9-7 over 8-1 every day when I am forced to play them at 90 fps.

I'm guessing you did it by following the lanes of hearts around in circle/semicircle? That's how I "solved" it when playing no-focus :3

And 9-7 is easy even on 120fps :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on December 19, 2012, 04:52:43 PM
...yeah, that's what I did. felt like the only feasible thing to me. and as I said, it's probably the last thing you could do to clear that scene.

you don't count when it comes to StB and DS being easy :V I found it tough enough on 90 fps. but that's one of the hell scenes gone for me. only like 10 left :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Szayelaporro Granz on December 19, 2012, 06:46:35 PM
in 9-5 satori runs away when you want to take a picture, so you need to make a quick dive into the heart and snap the picture. that's at least the way I have done this at normal speed. but due to everything being fast as fuck now, doing that always resulted in me dying. so I had to find an alternative method. that one is probably safer at normal speed, too :V

9-7 wasn't as bad as 8-1, to be honest. the first picture is a free one anyway. the second one is all about reading the bullets. and the third one is something between luck and read. it was difficult, but much easier than the original kinkaku-ji or 8-1. how the fuck did something so simple turn into the horror anyway? I still don't get how orin did that

9-5 is so much easier when I realized that all I need to do is tapping the Z key quickly without allowing her to escape :P I also got better score for that :)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on December 19, 2012, 06:50:09 PM
yeah, it is. but to get a successful picture you stil need to be very close. so close that it's outside of my abilities to dodge the hearts at 90 fps. which is why I had to resort to circling. trying to zoom onto satori will only allow her to escape
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Szayelaporro Granz on December 19, 2012, 07:51:29 PM
yeah, it is. but to get a successful picture you stil need to be very close. so close that it's outside of my abilities to dodge the hearts at 90 fps. which is why I had to resort to circling. trying to zoom onto satori will only allow her to escape

Oh yeah, I completely forgot about that. My apologies~
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Byaaakuren on December 20, 2012, 03:44:33 AM
Ugh, died at Maze of Love right as I was about to capture it
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Star King on December 20, 2012, 04:09:05 AM
I failed Hourai Elixir Lunatic at 00 seconds... 3 times in less than 10 tries. Wat.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Wriggle on December 20, 2012, 04:18:11 AM
I failed Hourai Elixir Lunatic at 00 seconds... 3 times in less than 10 tries. Wat.

A while ago I failed Hourai Doll timeout at 00 four times, even though the seconds are actually seconds there.

:V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on December 20, 2012, 04:24:29 AM
I failed Hourai Elixir Lunatic at 00 seconds... 3 times in less than 10 tries. Wat.

that is actually not uncommon. I had it happen when I perfected IN stage 6A. it's actually "made" so you have one last tricky dodge at 00 seconds. in spell practice 00 is my most common death time on it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Lepetit89 on December 20, 2012, 05:14:36 AM
Pretty much, yep, really, really hated the last three seconds.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: SirChaotick on December 20, 2012, 08:27:32 AM
GOD EFFING DANGIT.

NOW WITNESS THE GLORY OF THOSE LAST TWO STAGES. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=25948)
I was doing awesomely before I died with FOUR BOMBS just before the Sanae fight. I got to Kanako with three lives and into DVoWG with two lives and two power. Go look how close I came. That last dodge... asdfaqfdfafdqdfqsdf

There shall be a reckoning.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Arcengal on December 20, 2012, 10:14:46 AM
Yamato Torus declares. My mother and sister start yelling at each other with me in the middle.
I DIE. THRICE. WITH ALL BOMBS LOST. EIGHT OF THEM.

You probably know this now, but if something's happening in a run where you can't give it 100% of your concentration then you should pause the game. It has the possibility of breaking the flow of the game but that's better than losing loads of lives.

Also, pause in a position where you're not going to have to dodge within two seconds of unpausing, if possible.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: SirChaotick on December 20, 2012, 10:20:45 AM
a position where you're not going to have to dodge within two seconds

Those exist?
Also yay for dying four times in a row to Shizuha's nonspell
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on December 20, 2012, 02:38:52 PM
people, 12-6 is too hard. I keep dying before I can even charge up for the first photo :V

no seriously, I am not going to do it. the bug keeps killing me before I can shit. I'll safe a replay of how it looks. every_time.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: ARF on December 20, 2012, 03:11:24 PM
people, 12-6 is too hard. I keep dying before I can even charge up for the first photo :V

no seriously, I am not going to do it. the bug keeps killing me before I can shit. I'll safe a replay of how it looks. every_time.

Never give up!!! http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=25951

Going out to the menu if you get bugged helps, usually.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on December 20, 2012, 03:14:44 PM
you'd be surprised how quick I managed it once I didn't die to thin air :V

(http://www.abload.de/img/unbenannt10kkp.jpg)

the replay wasn't desynched either, so I suppose I can put it up.

on another note: 12-7 is painful. I already took 300 pictures and the best I managed was 6 photos like 2 times.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: ARF on December 20, 2012, 03:18:05 PM
:3 I doubt you'll have trouble with anything past 12-7, so once you have it the all clear should be yours!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on December 20, 2012, 03:26:35 PM
but there's still Ex-5. it's a terrible card D: but I don't doubt that it's going to be mostly pretty easy after it. so there's that. shame I am leaving for home today and can't finish before new years because of that :V but I should get the video up in the first half of january =)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Piranha on December 20, 2012, 09:13:30 PM
Just Gameover'd in Practice mode, SA Normal Stage 6. Died three times alone to Utsuho's first spell. :colonveeplusalpha:

DAFUQ?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: I have no name on December 20, 2012, 09:24:56 PM
but there's still Ex-5. it's a terrible card D:
Tell me about it, it's one of only a few scenes I dread when I do all scenes attempts.

Like the one I'll be doing a bit later today.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Tsym on December 21, 2012, 01:30:24 AM
Sigh I lost 3 no bomb Extra attempts in a row to And Then There Will Be None. I hate that card so much. Somehow it always manages to get the better of me. And no, this doesn't mean that I died there. Oh no. This means I've gotten to that card with 3 lives, and managed to game over or lose all 3 lives on that card. I just don't get why I'm so bad at it; it's not even hard. It doesn't help that it's at the end of the stage and practicing it is a huge pain.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Error on December 21, 2012, 09:20:27 AM
MoF normal: (lol what a lightweight)
>Make it to stage 6 boss with 5 lives (+1 during fight)
>Movement locks up
>Lose 2 lives trying to fix it
>1 life going into final spellcard
>Die just as I beat it
>Stare blankly at game over screen

T-that freak occurence completely broke my stride I s-sweaRGH DAMN IT

Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: SirChaotick on December 21, 2012, 10:12:41 AM
MoF normal: (lol what a lightweight)
>Make it to stage 6 boss with 5 lives (+1 during fight)
>Movement locks up
>Lose 2 lives trying to fix it
>1 life going into final spellcard
>Die just as I beat it
>Stare blankly at game over screen

T-that freak occurence completely broke my stride I s-sweaRGH DAMN IT
Holy crap the coincidence.
I just arrived at Kanako with 4 lives (Lunatic), my keyboard locked up and I died twice on the first card because of that.
Then the second nonspell suddenly went apeshit on me and killed me.
All morale gone, spend two other lives tackling Kanako.

Grrnsrsgrstssghh
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Elysia on December 21, 2012, 11:32:09 PM
Total attempt count for all MB Lunatic Stage 5 card timeouts combined: 43.

Total attempt count for A Fantasy's Transience timeout: 167.

The former has been achieved. The latter has not.

...yeah.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Lepetit89 on December 23, 2012, 01:00:13 AM
Is there some kind of magic that prevents Reisen from winning against Eiki in Story Mode? Can't seem to beat her on Normal, even with 4 rounds. Don't know if it's because it's late, but I'm starting to feel slightly irritated.

Edit: Okay, problem "solved", I suppose. Four rounds, brought her down to a sliver of health in round 2 and 3, with each round lasting 2-3 minutes, but in round 4 I lasted a little less than 3 minutes without getting hit and finally won. I still don't know if I just did something wrong, but I had a much easier time with pretty much everyone above Reisen in the character selection screen.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Bang Jan on December 23, 2012, 10:12:05 AM
-Tries to time out Total Purification

-Dies at the 11 seconds mark

:flamingv:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zil on December 23, 2012, 11:33:27 AM
I still don't know if I just did something wrong, but I had a much easier time with pretty much everyone above Reisen in the character selection screen.
As it happens, those characters above Reisen are all somewhat above average at hitting the AI. That, and Reisen's attacks are pretty much as ineffective as possible. You can't make her win any faster by doing any particular thing. You just have to survive long enough, and PoFV can be balls-hard when it feels like it, even on Normal. Whether or not you beat the game is almost always going to come down to your performance in the last round or two, so just a few mistakes can cost you everything, no matter how well you've been doing all along. More or less, anyway.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zork787 on December 23, 2012, 03:33:40 PM
Fuck Shou and her curved lazers to the deepest part of hell imaginable!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Lepetit89 on December 23, 2012, 04:21:59 PM
As it happens, those characters above Reisen are all somewhat above average at hitting the AI. That, and Reisen's attacks are pretty much as ineffective as possible. You can't make her win any faster by doing any particular thing. You just have to survive long enough, and PoFV can be balls-hard when it feels like it, even on Normal. Whether or not you beat the game is almost always going to come down to your performance in the last round or two, so just a few mistakes can cost you everything, no matter how well you've been doing all along. More or less, anyway.

I see, didn't know Reisen was that bad at hitting things. Seems to match my general impression, though, the run that did earn me the victory wasn't really bad, didn't panic, brave advances to the top, things I had to get used to again. In retrospective, I'm definitely not complaining, it was excellent practice and long matches against Eiki are always awesome.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: redlakitu on December 23, 2012, 04:59:04 PM
DAMN IT! I made it all the way to Resurrection Butterfly on PCB Hard with one spare life and two bombs still in stock, so instead of spamming bombs and trying to tank through the thing, I lost without even bombing ONCE!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on December 23, 2012, 06:22:58 PM
I just played touhou on a laptop for the first time. (borther's laptop I am borrowing while not at home in vienna, blah blah)

I gave up after dying 2 times to sUFO stage 6. the stage potion I don't think I'll be playing much, if at all until I am back home
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: redlakitu on December 23, 2012, 06:52:01 PM
What's so horrible about playing Touhou on a laptop, anyway?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Lepetit89 on December 23, 2012, 07:03:42 PM
I wouldn't give up on it so soon, I think it took me a few hours to get used to playing on a laptop, but I really, really love being able to play everywhere I go.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on December 23, 2012, 07:24:24 PM
What's so horrible about playing Touhou on a laptop, anyway?

If that laptop happens to have ghosting keys it can be annoying. And if the keyboard integrated into the laptop sucks then that's annoying too. Like mine for instance, you have to press way too hard for the keys to actually register and eventually some keys just get stuck and are harder to press for a few days after which they stop being dicks. Luckily that has never happened with keys i use for playing :3 But things like these means i often make typos when writing quickly and when extended to gameplay means that microtapping to get through the tiny gaps can be really hard especially if you're in the heat of things and don't get the button pressed down hard enough or accidentally for too long in an effort to press hard enough.

If those things are the case then playing on laptops can be a pain but as a person with no alternative I guess you get used to it. Still though, I actually prefer laptops over desktops for playing shmups but I haven't been very lucky with this one but it's something you get used to.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: redlakitu on December 23, 2012, 07:37:46 PM
I see. The arrow keys on my laptop's keyboard are completely useless (they were useless even before I accidentally managed to tear one of them off), and the numeric keys lock up when I press more than two one at once, but installing VJoy and setting UHJK as movement keys worked, and that was the end of all my problems. So, looks like I'm just lucky then.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on December 23, 2012, 07:55:56 PM
I can't even move diagonally. I think it's a lost cause. just....no.it's just not playing until the 1st, anyway.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on December 23, 2012, 08:12:36 PM
That however is a completely understandable reason. I think you might be able to get around the issue by remapping keys but lacking the options of moving diagonally makes playing absolutely impossible.  :3
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Lepetit89 on December 23, 2012, 08:20:08 PM
Yikes, that certainly makes things impossible. Had that issue with an Acer my mother would have given to me after I destroyed my own laptop in PCB-induced fit of rage, but no matter where I put the keys, diagonal movement + focus/shooting was impossible. I declined the offer, too great an issue.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Alicirno on December 23, 2012, 11:22:28 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/uuViR.jpg)
End result of a PoFV Lunatic run.

Shikieiki is evil.  :getdown:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on December 24, 2012, 03:29:01 AM
Lol you guys I remember when my Z key was rendered wholly nonfunctional and my X key acting as if it was padded underneath the key, forcing you to slam down on it for it to register properly. Add in the 1-in-5-time arrow key ghosting and you had Touhou on Idiotic Modo.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zil on December 24, 2012, 05:41:05 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/ijW5H.jpg)

Started at 95mil on that last life. I was so sure it was mine. Then I destroyed myself in no time at all. I wouldn't have even had to win. Just 5 million points.This should've been it. I can't even describe my disappointment. I just can't.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: ZekeSulastin on December 24, 2012, 06:54:20 AM
From IRC, paraphrased:
Heartstriker: you all should livestream!
ZekeS: FINE.

It's like he was trying to get me wound up to go plowing into the TH05/TH06 Stage 1 boss's bullets.  On normal.

I blame him for tonight's miserable failures.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Lepetit89 on December 24, 2012, 12:22:38 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/ijW5H.jpg)

Started at 95mil on that last life. I was so sure it was mine. Then I destroyed myself in no time at all. I wouldn't have even had to win. Just 5 million points.This should've been it. I can't even describe my disappointment. I just can't.

Wow, really sorry to hear that, things like that definitely irritate the most.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: I have no name on December 24, 2012, 06:33:37 PM
So some of you may remember my Tao Taidou history of 21/666 from a while back.
I started playing it again today sitting on 21/750 with a few double KOs, no big deal.
Reach 21/866 making 200 straight tries with no captures.
Then finally manage a 22nd on try number 869.

203 tries between captures, why game, why.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Tsym on December 24, 2012, 07:53:31 PM
I hate IN. It might just be me, but it's the one game in the series where the bullet sprites definitely do NOT match their hitboxes, and you're meant to squeeze through absurdly stupid gaps unless you memorize everything, and even if you do memorize everything, I am not nearly precise enough with my keystrokes to avoid having Remi or Alice run straight into a bullet when I'm trying to do a precise dodge. I can SEE where I'm supposed to go. I know exactly how to do Keine's three midboss spells in the Extra stage, but I keep on hitting the bullets because I'm apparently terrible at precise keystrokes. And this only happens in IN. I can do dense patterns in MoF and SA just fine with Marisa, but there's just something about IN that resists my every attempt at precise movements. Sigh.

(http://i.imgur.com/ijW5H.jpg)

Started at 95mil on that last life. I was so sure it was mine. Then I destroyed myself in no time at all. I wouldn't have even had to win. Just 5 million points.This should've been it. I can't even describe my disappointment. I just can't.
And ow. That... Really hurts. My condolences.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Limian on December 25, 2012, 01:08:12 AM
just as I got my TD extra clear, I lost all my data while shuffling it between appdata, my actual TD folder and, well, the bin. I don't even know exactly how, but I did it. all gone. :V
thank god, THANK GOD I uploaded the replay beforehand, so the clear has at least some sort of legacy.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Validon98 on December 25, 2012, 03:15:21 PM
So, Mystic Square on Hard... I lose a bomb to Stage 3, not too bad. Then I lose two lives to Mai, both on the same stupid attack! And then I lose more lives to Yumeko and Stage 5. And then finally I lose the rest to Shinki, most of them on that stupid attack with the Cheeto Lasers! That was three lives I lost to that one attack, damn it!

EDIT: Also, whoever says that Nue is easy, "Danmaku Chimera" and "Unidentified Darkness" beg to differ. Screw her, screw her stage, screw UFO in general. Why the hell is it so damn hard?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: I have no name on December 25, 2012, 04:29:38 PM
EDIT: Also, whoever says that Nue is easy, "Danmaku Chimera" and "Unidentified Darkness" beg to differ. Screw her, screw her stage, screw UFO in general. Why the hell is it so damn hard?
Danmaku Chimera is easy, Undefined Darkness is probably her 3rd hardest attack, but easily the hardest if you don't know how to handle it, Nue does indeed have the hardest stage portion, and UFO is so hard because of the UFO mechanic.  And because curvy lasers exist.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on December 25, 2012, 07:44:23 PM
if you know how to handle undefined darkness, it's trivial and far from anything difficult. even grudge bow becomes harder, then.

danmaku chimera is easy if you can get used to it. I used to die to it as well before getting so. don't feel bad about it.

as for difficult stage potion: the only real hard part is post kogasa. everything else can be handled in the basically same way every time. find a strategy for it and you're good. curvy lasers don't exist in the extra stage. I also think that UFO is an awesome game, especially because the pattern are more difficult and stuff. it's a pain to perfect anything here, though
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Oh on December 25, 2012, 11:10:48 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/XWO9D.png?1)
Holy shit. I suck. No Bombs ended here with 2 deaths to VoWG.
I can get this, I just need to not screw up earlier patterns...

e: to think that Kanako would be nice on Christmas...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Chuckolator on December 26, 2012, 07:07:43 AM
Remind me again why Phantasmagoria Trues requires clears from all three modes to practice any stage 6? That's like requiring a lunatic 1cc to practice S6 Easy, or even worse, requiring an easy 1cc to practice S6 Lunatic. Unlimited is too hard at this point in time, and I want to enjoy it instead of rushing through it without having fun just so I can the other two stage 6s. :/
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Elysia on December 26, 2012, 08:57:20 AM
I just died to A Fantasy's Transience at the 1 second mark.

I wish I was exaggerating when I say I cried.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: RNG on December 27, 2012, 01:36:59 AM
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST

Almost had a perfect Stage 4, double KOd Tao Taidou. Proceeded to lose focus, and died to the annoying shit before Futo, then twice to Iwafune.

Um, I don't think I'm good enough for this challenge. I don't know who it was who said that doing well at full-game challenges comes down to a roll of the dice - I think they're wrong, I know I could have managed that pre-Futo wave, it was easy, but I am just not good enough.

Also Futo's nonspells are both boring and absolutely stupid. Zun, I will never forgive you  :(
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: RNG on December 27, 2012, 01:38:38 AM
ignore
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Chuckolator on December 27, 2012, 02:28:01 AM
Um, I don't think I'm good enough for this challenge.
Don't feel bad, nobody is. The boss is just that badass.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: RNG on December 27, 2012, 04:57:59 AM
Failed a Stage 5 perfect attempt to Oomonomimi's Dinner. Well that's new.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: redlakitu on December 27, 2012, 02:37:18 PM
Darn it, yet another attempt at perfecting PCB Stage 5 Normal foiled by Five Signs of the Deva. Stop murdering me, Youmu! (at least I learned how to handle 200 Yojana in One Slash...)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: I have no name on December 28, 2012, 06:07:03 PM
My inability to bomb when I see a bullet is going to hit me irks me right now.

As in, I see the bullet, I see it's going to hit me, and I sit there sheepishly and die.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Tao-Sensei on December 28, 2012, 06:12:32 PM
>Makes it to Shinki in MS on a Lunatic 1CC with three extra lives.
>Game freezes and stops working.

Also
>Stage 3 EoSD Lunatic 1CC, so far no deaths or bombs.
>Dies because rams into fairy.

And
>Stage 2 EoSD, rams into ice block things near the end of the stage portion.

WHELP, this concludes that whenever something is going just as planned, I get screwed over at some point.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on December 28, 2012, 08:27:10 PM
And
>Stage 2 EoSD, rams into ice block things near the end of the stage portion.
I thought they were seagulls for the longest time.

Eventually I settled for "plastic fragment things".
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Wriggle on December 28, 2012, 08:36:55 PM
I thought they were seagulls for the longest time.

Eventually I settled for "plastic fragment things".

They are popcorn. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Bang Jan on December 28, 2012, 09:18:55 PM
Oh my god, WHY HASN'T ANYONE MADE A SAVESTATE PROGRAM FOR TOUHOU THAT DOESN'T SUCK!? Seriously why?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on December 28, 2012, 10:20:44 PM
Argh. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWoDrGX0RUs)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Tsym on December 29, 2012, 07:31:04 PM
My random morning annoyance: I've played MoF Stages 4-6 so much that I'm losing all my lives during stages 1-3 in no bomb runs. I can barely reach stage 4, and I'm failing at MoF Stage 1. STAGE 1. It's STREAMING. How am I failing simple streaming??
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Reiko on December 29, 2012, 10:17:26 PM
I thought I could no-bombs SA normal quite easily.
Then DBDB came.
Then Rin's Needle Wheels thing came.

And I changed my mind  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Oh on December 29, 2012, 10:33:28 PM
Just fuck SA's Extra, fuck it to hell. I will never NMNB this stage, it's just too damn annoying.
And fuck my shitty PC too. Can't even record MoF on 1/2 frame without audio desync.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Wriggle on December 30, 2012, 12:11:28 AM
Just fuck SA's Extra, fuck it to hell. I will never NMNB this stage, it's just too damn annoying.
And fuck my shitty PC too. Can't even record MoF on 1/2 frame without audio desync.

Really? I found her easier than Suwako to perfect.... I haven't even perfected Suwako yet. :V (not that I've really tried, but from my previous non-perfect-attempting experiences, I'm pretty sure I'd fail very hard at it :V)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Oh on December 30, 2012, 12:19:55 AM
Well it's probably because I suck.
I can't do anything post Embers of Love.

Suwako is just memo anyways, just watch a replay and you'll be fine.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zil on December 31, 2012, 02:44:37 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/aThvH.jpg)

Why? ;_;

(I think Koishi's much more memo than Suwako, for what it's worth. An EX boss among EX bosses.)

edit:
(http://i.imgur.com/b5PTa.jpg)

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Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Seppo Hovi on December 31, 2012, 04:33:35 PM
Oh hey I NM Pacified EoSD stage 3.
Oh hey I didn't have the replay patch on.

G J!

Time to redo this shit.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Maribel Hearn on January 01, 2013, 01:02:04 AM
It sucks so bad you can't save replays of Practices in EoSD... I've lost a perfect run to that too. :( And capturing some of Remilia's spells on Hard.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Elysia on January 01, 2013, 03:39:46 AM
It sucks so bad you can't save replays of Practices in EoSD... I've lost a perfect run to that too. :( And capturing some of Remilia's spells on Hard.
Just do the hex editor thing in the first post of this thread. (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13859.0.html) It's worked wonders for me, and it's really easy to do, even if you normally get intimidated by programming stuff like I do. (also thanks a ton to Wriggle for said discovery)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Maribel Hearn on January 01, 2013, 02:16:45 PM
Just do the hex editor thing in the first post of this thread. (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13859.0.html) It's worked wonders for me, and it's really easy to do, even if you normally get intimidated by programming stuff like I do. (also thanks a ton to Wriggle for said discovery)

Hmm, that sounds useful... thanks. ;P I happen to be fond of programming so it shouldn't cause much trouble for me.

EDIT: Thanks a lot, it worked! :D
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Reiko on January 02, 2013, 10:39:28 AM
How not to 1cc EoSD any Touhou game :
> 9 misses
> 15 bombs
> still reaching final boss

*mumbling* Ineedtobombmore...Ineedtobombmore...Ineedtobombmore...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Elysia on January 03, 2013, 04:21:30 AM
Not many worse feelings than giving up on a challenge you've been attempting for weeks.

I kept telling myself, if only I could do well at Patchouli, I could pull off the run. So I had a run where I PERFECTED Patchouli...and didn't make it to Remilia.

Well, so much for EoSD Normal no-vertical no-bombs. fuck you Marionette
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Makedounia on January 03, 2013, 06:38:36 PM
I captured every Nue's card until the green UFO card. I somehow managed to make it to her last card. And die with 2 bombs in stock... Followed by 10 mins of staring at the screen while occasionally facepalming...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: LadyScarlet on January 04, 2013, 08:29:26 PM
*sigh* I thought TAS'ing capturing Saigyouji Flawless Nirvana no focus with Youmu was an achievement, but then I saw someone time it out no-focus with Youmu with no TAS.

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Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Oh on January 04, 2013, 10:34:46 PM
EoSD LNB MarisaB
4 lives going into stage 6, was expecting a clear.
But oh no, Remilia doesn't agree. Almost anything that can wall me walled me and I gamed over to Gensokyo.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Reiko on January 05, 2013, 06:08:51 PM
Let's have some more EoSD rage :
> 2 lives/3 bombs going against Remilia
> Keyboard uses Ghosting Keys. It's very effective !
> 2 deaths at the opener
> ragequit.

Also, it seems this game treats deathbombs as misses (got a total of 11 misses on this run, which is technically impossible without continuing). I had never noticed that...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Validon98 on January 06, 2013, 01:18:04 AM
I was doing pretty damn well on my PCB Hard run with ReimuB. No deaths until the Prismrivers, which wan't too bad. Then of course, I screw up a few times on my way to Yuyuko. Nothing major. I had five lives getting to her.
I die stupidly by running into a bullet on the card before Resurrection Butterfly. Frustrated, I continued anyways. I go on to capture Resurrection Butterfly. On Hard. The first time I actually saw the card.
If I hadn't ran into that bullet or just bombed, I would have 1cced the game.
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Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Tsym on January 06, 2013, 07:05:40 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/0azuJ.jpg)

This is such BS. Momiji, I swear. Your crap is WORSE than Shou's at times. At least I can move to the corners with Shou's stuff and come out fine. This... What the hell do I do when I have to deal with this? The worst part is that I have to time you down to 11 seconds, or face certain death. My choice is between BS death or certain death. I don't like these odds. Basically the strategy right now is to perfect everything else so I can eat the BS deaths at Momiji and PWG. I get the feeling that this will be an awfully familiar pattern as I try to no bomb these games.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: SirChaotick on January 06, 2013, 09:59:17 AM
God EFFING damn it!
I just discovered that, all this time messing up on EosD, I had messed up my settings - I was starting with only two bombs after every death and only one life to start with.
On the plus side, the 1cc shouldn't be all that hard then  :)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Lepetit89 on January 06, 2013, 10:08:25 AM
What in tarnation? I need to ask, do you play under influence?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Seppo Hovi on January 06, 2013, 03:26:56 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/QrPK4.png)

4th Last Spell ;_______________________________________________________________________;
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Bang Jan on January 06, 2013, 05:50:56 PM
Yay, I cleared PCB ultra extra.

Whoops, the replay desynced.

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Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Seppo Hovi on January 06, 2013, 06:03:36 PM
IIRC PCB Extra and Phantasm replays desynched with the ultra patch. So if you want to record a clear of those, you must do it while playing.

Althought I remember both being rather easy to do, so you did not lose a lot. - Throw in another attempt if you really want to record it, shouldn't be much of a nuisance.

-

And for the love of the hitbox goddess, drop down on the smilies. People surely can understand even if you used less of them.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Lepetit89 on January 06, 2013, 06:33:32 PM

4th Last Spell ;_______________________________________________________________________;

I don't know what kind of High Score you missed out on, but I can relate to the fourth Last Spell being a problem. Doesn't matter what difficulty it is (minus Lunatic maybe, not sure), but I've got the worst capture rate on that one out of all of Kaguya's Last Spells.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: RNG on January 06, 2013, 07:38:31 PM
I think he's having trouble with the fourth last spell because he's supergrazing it at the start, which requires pixel-perfection, and you also have to leave at exactly the right time so you don't get hit by bubbles.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Lepetit89 on January 06, 2013, 07:41:48 PM
No doubt, that would probably add yet another layer of difficulty to the Spellcard. Personally, I just find it hard to read regardless of the difficulty due to the high speed of the bullets. Supergrazing it, on the other hand, is nothing I'd want to touch. Jesus Christ, that sounds downright painful.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Oh on January 06, 2013, 10:23:39 PM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=26250
Is it even possible to fail her last spell? I truly suck. Why? I was so close. Aya... Why? WHY?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on January 06, 2013, 11:13:58 PM
all of my failures any whys. zengeku, I don't think I can MNNB shou :V

(http://www.abload.de/img/unbenanntlqr8w.jpg)

and this was a good run. I didn't game over :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: DeadNotSleeping on January 09, 2013, 11:05:36 PM
Scarlet Meister
I've put in well over 60 hours on that attack, and I still die.
NTGKWRAENYKWYNHNYNAE REMILIA D:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Massaca on January 10, 2013, 07:41:40 AM
Had a desire to play IN today, haven't played Touhou in quite a while though. So with this in mind I decided to pickup where I left off trying to time out Fujiyama Volcano at 120 fps.
Which went well >_>
Best I could luck was 22 seconds left :/ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywu8qzZW4W8)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Avakyon on January 10, 2013, 09:29:24 AM
Three Ten Desires runs in a row... they all die to Emperor of the Land of the Rising Sun.
And as if this unspeakable horror was not enough, the third run also dies to... take a guess.
Armillary Sphere of Ikaruga-dera, bet you didn't know that was possible!
This was almost cry-worthy, especially since all runs fell just short of clearing.
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This is yet another unbelievable disaster from a successful run. Not quite sure how to explain it... or what I was thinking, it just kinda got out of control.
Summon "Royal Clan's Chaotic Power Slide"  (http://youtu.be/XbD3MGNlF0Q/)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Bang Jan on January 16, 2013, 04:05:51 PM
Lost a Greatest Treasure timeout at the 0 seconds mark.

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Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: RNG on January 16, 2013, 04:12:50 PM
One emoticon will do, ty.

I decided to do EoSD Lunatic MarisaA no-bomb. Patchouli is proving a bit difficult, especially Agni Radiance. It's not even the kind of thing where I can ask for advice, it just shits bubbles everywhere.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Tsym on January 16, 2013, 11:42:28 PM
Sigh I'm done. No more perfect attempts of MoF Stage 4 or 6. I just got 2 1DNB runs in a row for stage 4, and 2 1DNB runs in a row for stage 6, and I'm sick of it. I'm just... done. I don't think I've ever felt so demoralized ever. Perfects are bullshit. That's my conclusion. It took so long to not get a 1DNB of stage 5 that I should have known that it would have been even more painful for stages 4 and 6. I just feel as though I've hit a skill cap. At some point, I think you just need raw talent or reflexes to get perfects done without having to restart for the millionth time because Momiji screwed you over or because the final death fairy in stage 6 is just a pain to do. Perhaps it can be done eventually, but right now I just suck too much. For some reason my perfect failures have been to Storm Day and to Aya's third on her last sliver of health or Terukuni, even though PWG is supposedly the main sticking point. And I'm not even considering all the runs that have failed to pass Momiji or Saruta Cross or some popcorn fairy. And on stage 6? A slight slip up on Kanako's third non, or having Yamato Torus just throw out really thick walls that I can't dodge because I'm terrible at knives are my sticking points. Not VoWG. And the worst part is the runs that do make it past the aforementioned stuff end up failing on PWG or VoWG. There's just no avoiding the fact that I can't do it.

I dunno. As I contemplate this, I just have to wonder why a failed 1cc attempt on a boss's final card doesn't invoke such frustration. Is it because I can point to multiple areas of improvement whereas here it's clearly one error? It's probably just a human reasoning thing as there's no logical reason why I should be focused so heavily on one single mistake. But maybe it's just because of my perception. The margin between a 1DNB and a perfect is so razor thin, but a 1DNB is near worthless. Intuitively, it doesn't seem right that such huge emphasis should be placed on such a miniscule error. It's not as if I've made an error that has far reaching ramifications like accidentally working in inches instead of centimeters or accidentally let one blue UFO escape during a UFO score run. At the same time though, an error is an error, and I guess a convincing case could be made that all errors are equal. Or maybe not since some errors can be corrected while others cannot. Ugh you know what, this is a silly argument with myself that I'm having. Maybe I'm overthinking things. I'll just post it now and come back to it later. If I think it's dumb later, then I'll just edit it out :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zil on January 17, 2013, 12:37:47 AM
I tend to agree. "Perfecting" stages purely for the sake of saying you've done it is kind of a waste of time. It's fine if you have a personal interest in achieving it, but otherwise don't bother. It's not helping you improve and there is really no meaningful difference between doing it with one death or no deaths. Getting the "perfect" run won't make you a better player. You'll just come back a while later and wonder why you beat yourself up over it. Just go do something fun that you really care about.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on January 17, 2013, 12:55:13 AM
It's not helping you improve

I have to disagree. when I was pulling the NMNB stages out of my ass, I saw myself improve much faster than ever before.

it's either that, or I have had the skill to perfect these stages before I even started, and that was when I was just barely past my first 1ccs on lunatic (I say barely, but it was still 2 months later or so :V), but that seems so unlikely on the harder stages like MoF stage 4, In stage 6A or, the failure I call my 1DNB GFW extra. these are definitely things I don't feel like I could have gotten without improving before my hilarious 1/0 PCB finish.
though the 1DNB marisa fight showed me the exact same thing tsym is having right now. it just gets annoying to have one thing kill you due to a centimeter of wrong movement. or accidentially tapping the wrong movement key. or missing a single stray bullet. or whatever the fuck kill you.
on the other hand, I haven't really felt any improvement from playing at 90 fps (even though it's so dope). but that may be because I am doing everything at that speed currently and I am terrified when I fight eiki and I all I see are her rods.

and tsym, I know that skill cap feel. I have felt it MANY times, the best is just to...play. really. don't let that feeling be the reason to stop. you WILL eventually improve, it often only shows after actually having done something you know you can't do right now.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Oh on January 17, 2013, 04:42:48 AM
Tysm, I think I've made a similar post somewhere else a couple of months ago.
I can understand your frustration. I have five or six one miss runs on stage 4 as well. I even have one where I got nervous and died on Aya's last.
Instead of doing NMNB, you can try something different like full runs. You can probably get a no bomb based on your practice.
Or you can try playing more. NMNB rarely comes within a small amount of attempts. You can also timeout attacks you have trouble with to improve consistency.
If all else fails, a break should suffice. It worked for me, and I felt better too.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: nicholashin on January 17, 2013, 02:58:16 PM
I managed to enter TD Stage 6 with 4 lives 3 bombs, with impressive performance in stages 1-5, but still fail the 1cc (Normal), and that's without my keyboard failing:
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=26425
OHMAN I HATE THIS....
(It's better than how I had managed to fail an MoF Normal 1cc entering stage 6 with SEVEN lives though...)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on January 17, 2013, 03:38:48 PM
Getting the "perfect" run won't make you a better player.

No, not in itself but the time you spend attempting the NMNB runs will be good practice nevertheless.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Drake on January 17, 2013, 07:37:56 PM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=26423

I guess this counts. EoSD LNB attempt, a few legitimate deaths but I really just got plowed unfairly by some things.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Makedounia on January 19, 2013, 12:17:50 AM
Mokou's nonspells after hollow giant "Woo". I mean.... ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS? I can't dodge that shit... Everytime I try to dodge them I am forced to deathbomb, followed by bombspam until the next spellcard. Go me!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: RNG on January 19, 2013, 12:22:00 AM
Game over at Scarlet Gensokyo (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=26452). REMILIAAAAAAA

If not for the dumb death on Stage 5 and the 2 deaths to Young Demon Lord this would have cleared.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Validon98 on January 19, 2013, 02:46:02 AM
Now I know why I should not try UFO on Hard. Because it's just full of so much bullshit compared to Normal that it's not even funny. Without continuing, I got part way through Stage 4. On my only continue, I got to "Demon of Purification." With a bomb. And I didn't deathbomb like I had been almost the entire run.
I am not trying that again. No way. Maybe once I 1cc Lunatic on another game. But definitely, definitely not now.

EDIT: Made it to six seconds on Hourai Elixir on Normal. I've never been that close to capturing it before. Goddamnit, Eirin!
Also, that slowdown effect on Hourai Elixir... that's fricking weird.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Lepetit89 on January 19, 2013, 10:57:03 AM
For as long as I can think, I've hated those ice shards (or whatever they are) towards the end of EoSD stage 2 for being able to hit me from the side. This hasn't changed.

Oh, well, EoSD Hard cleared with all shottypes, some rage here and there, but 4 attempts resulting in 3 clears is a much better result than I had expected.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: SirChaotick on January 19, 2013, 09:45:41 PM
I got too close to clearing SA Lunatic 1cc. Too freaking close. I wish I had a screenshot to emphasizie but I have no idea how to take one.

I really really want to finish this raven off already but I have to go to sleep grnstrgh
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on January 19, 2013, 10:29:08 PM
I got too close to clearing SA Lunatic 1cc. Too freaking close. I wish I had a screenshot to emphasizie but I have no idea how to take one.

are you serious?

just printscreen > paint > edit > paste > save > upload > show us.

alt + printscreen if you're playing in windowed mode and don't want us to see anything but the game, still.

like, really. it's something you do in 2 minutes

on another note: nothing I attempt recently seems to have any chance of suceeding anytime soon. PoFV komachi at 90 fps? yeah, fuck, I game over to reimu like 90% of the time. MoF 90 fps? I can't even do stage 2 properly. MoF NB? yeah, game over'd on stage 4. Sa NB, yeah. don't even thin kabout it, me.

all sorts of bullshit happening. and that wasn't all, either :/ well fuck.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Seppo Hovi on January 19, 2013, 11:25:39 PM
Pressing the home-button saves a .bmp screenshot to the game's snapshot folder in post-EoSD games.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: SirChaotick on January 20, 2013, 06:23:59 AM
are you serious?

just printscreen > paint > edit > paste > save > upload > show us.

alt + printscreen if you're playing in windowed mode and don't want us to see anything but the game, still.

like, really. it's something you do in 2 minutes
...yes, I am perfectly serious. As far as I knew the printscreen button does nothing and if it does save a picture somewhere, I have no idea where it ends up. Nor do I have a paint program on my computer to my knowledge. That bit's easy enough of course, but even then why would one open it there? I have no desire to edit or paint over anything. And upload? To what? I can probably figure that one out, I've heard of photobucket, but still.
While the whole progress can probably be learnt in a negligible amount of time, I wouldn't be surprised if a person somewhere in the world, using a computer, didn't know anything about it. Perhaps one should think of that possibility before reaching for the vaguely condescending, not to mention unhelpful, remarks. Especially not immediately after failing an SA lunatic 1cc.
EDIT: One more important detail - I have no replay saved. I only save them when I'm successful and sharing my failure with MotK was (of course) not on my mind at the time.
Pressing the home-button saves a .bmp screenshot to the game's snapshot folder in post-EoSD games.
Why thank you.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on January 20, 2013, 06:32:19 AM
it wasn't meant to be condescending. I was honestly surprised there was someone who really didn't know how to do screenshots.

pressing print screen in itself doesn't safe a picture, that's why you open paint (which is a default program for windows, so you WILL have it, unless you went and deleted it). you basically just copy what's on the screen, and when you paste it in paint, it...well...pastes the screen you just took. you can then safe it into a file paint supports. it's much like copying a text from an internet source into word

as for uploads: many possibilities. photobucket is one of them, but you need an account. personally, I use abload.de it's a german site, but there are links 2 things you can click on, so it's not particularly difficult to get, even if you can't speak German.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: SirChaotick on January 20, 2013, 06:35:42 AM
it wasn't meant to be condescending. I was honestly surprised there was someone who really didn't know how to do screenshots.

pressing print screen in itself doesn't safe a picture, that's why you open paint (which is a default program for windows, so you WILL have it, unless you went and deleted it). you basically just copy what's on the screen, and when you paste it in paint, it...well...pastes the screen you just took. you can then safe it into a file paint supports. it's much like copying a text from an internet source into word

as for uploads: many possibilities. photobucket is one of them, but you need an account. personally, I use abload.de it's a german site, but there are links 2 things you can click on, so it's not particularly difficult to get, even if you can't speak German.
Ah, okay. In turn disregard any vaguely passive-aggressive remarks I may have made.
This is quite helpful too, thanks kindly.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: I have no name on January 20, 2013, 06:48:14 AM
Oh, so THAT'S how printscreen works  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Arcengal on January 20, 2013, 11:50:26 AM
(http://en.touhouwiki.net/images/4/49/MBSC105.jpg)

NICE-A DIFFICULTY LEVU. :Db

No seriously I love this game but I'm raging at it all the same.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Bang Jan on January 20, 2013, 11:59:17 AM
(http://en.touhouwiki.net/images/4/49/MBSC105.jpg)

NICE-A DIFFICULTY LEVU. :Db

No seriously I love this game but I'm raging at it all the same.

If it helps... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTdqIQhTc8Y)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: redlakitu on January 20, 2013, 02:01:48 PM
Doing really well while practicing IN Lunatic Stage 5? Let's lose three lives to the same stage in a Hard mode run. Such an excellent idea! Excellent enough to make me ragequit, in fact.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Validon98 on January 20, 2013, 09:47:23 PM
I can't seem to do LLS's Extra. On one hand, I finally made it to Gengetsu. On the other, I die to the stupidest things from her. Like the phase before the Master Spark one. In other words, I lose lives to what is probably the second easiest part of the fight.  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: SirChaotick on January 21, 2013, 06:51:48 AM
>HOORAY LET'S TRY SOME SA LUNATIC EH
>die to Yuugi
>TWICE
>Post-Satori, three lives or two or something
>CAPTURE MIDBOSS SPELL HURRAY
>Die with two power on Orin opener
>Be awesome anyway, get in stage 6 with THREE LIVES
>Declare self awesome
>Decide to try to capture blazing wheel for once
>DIE TWICE ON BLAZING WHEEL
>Die on Utsuho's first spell
>Bomb on third nonspell
>DIES ANYWAY

**** THIS ****, YOU *********AZDQFHQSHQAFDV
/dies of capslock
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Limian on January 21, 2013, 05:12:07 PM
after fiddling around for a bit with MoF normal no-bombs, I got this really bittersweet run: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=26496 (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=26496)
captured all spells (that I reached) except for Sanae's last one somehow, but 3 deaths to nonspells and 5 fucking stage deaths, including ramming a fairy in stage 3. gameover to kanako's last. :ohdear:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: RNG on January 21, 2013, 10:22:38 PM
Another game over halfway through Scarlet Gensokyo. Going to punch something brb

AND ANOTHER this time I had 5 lives going into Stage 5 and somehow still blew it. AAAAAAAAAA
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Tsym on January 22, 2013, 07:36:38 AM
Argh a 2DNB VoWG timeout, with the 2 deaths being really dumb. Gosh. I'm not sure if the RNG was nice to me or if I was just in the zone on that run, but the waves all seemed really easy. Then I unfocus dashed straight into a wall, and then I heard the timer count down at 10 and I was so nervous that I ran straight into another wall. Nerves. Sigh. Something I'll need to work on if I'm going to get more accomplishments.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on January 23, 2013, 04:04:11 PM
so close, yet so far. ;_; no seriously,considering I was fighting eiki, I still easily had over 90 seconds to go in the last round. at least

here's the replay, if anyone's interested. http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=26537

but all sorts of bad things happened here. my scores were terrible in the first four stages. so terrible in fact, that a 50% score increase for each stage is actually realistic. that and if I had done better against marisa, I'd have gotten the 70 million extend, too. yuka and reimu could have gone better in their first round, but I really can't muster up any sort of skill in them, so dying early is not a surprise, even if it's lowering my score significantly. but seeing how I beat both of them in the 2nd round, I am assuming my practicing pays of, even if somewhat slowly. I managed to raise my average time again yuuka from 1.30 to close to 2 minutes, and the same applies for reimu (who I regularly manage to get to 2.30, too). I might have to practice so much that I can beat everything in the first round (marisa in unrealistic, though. but I think yuka and possibly reimu can be consistently beaten in the 1st round)
the problem with this is: no matter how many lives I have, that's not enough for eiki. I think the minimum for eiki was 3.30 or 4.00 unless you have ungodly luck. so I am actually back to square one. that said, I didn't even manage 2 minutes in any of those 3 rounds.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Makedounia on January 23, 2013, 09:12:55 PM
I played TD normal just for fun. Game over at Miko. Yes, you read correctly, game over at Miko. What the actual fuck?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Bang Jan on January 23, 2013, 09:26:20 PM
Was Blue Oni Red Oni intended to be impossible to time out? Because seriously, the last 20 seconds are completely ridiculous!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Reiko on January 23, 2013, 09:37:34 PM
I swear, there's something wrong between PCB and me.
It seems I'm just unable to dodge anything this game throws at me past stage 1. So I either try to dodge and game over before stage 3 boss, or bombspam everything on sight and get to stage 6 with zero resources left (yay for not even getting the 800 extend !). Both are unfun.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Seppo Hovi on January 23, 2013, 10:39:05 PM
Was Blue Oni Red Oni intended to be impossible to time out? Because seriously, the last 20 seconds are completely ridiculous!
It is possible. Stream horizontally.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: ふねん1 on January 24, 2013, 03:27:28 AM
I've been mixing in practices of Extra 1 and 2 in Phantasm Romance, including that handy Stage 4-Extra 2-Stage 6 option. I decide to do a full game run, and despite a death before Yukari, I didn't care enough to restart. I do so well that I manage to unlock Extra 3. I don't remember if I've done that after going through the Extra 1 and 2 routes, but whatever. The stage portion goes smoothly as well.

I then proceed to completely gag it up on Shinki, and I don't even get to her regular final. It was like I had forgotten how to do basic resource management. I know I'm still not playing at peak performance, but still.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Bang Jan on January 24, 2013, 04:03:54 PM
It is possible. Stream horizontally.

That's what I'm doing!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Flan27 on January 24, 2013, 04:17:01 PM
If it helps... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTdqIQhTc8Y)

Oh god, that card has killed me too many times.  The video even makes it look easy!  Madness!

I've been mixing in practices of Extra 1 and 2 in Phantasm Romance, including that handy Stage 4-Extra 2-Stage 6 option. I decide to do a full game run, and despite a death before Yukari, I didn't care enough to restart. I do so well that I manage to unlock Extra 3. I don't remember if I've done that after going through the Extra 1 and 2 routes, but whatever. The stage portion goes smoothly as well.

I then proceed to completely gag it up on Shinki, and I don't even get to her regular final. It was like I had forgotten how to do basic resource management. I know I'm still not playing at peak performance, but still.

You only need to do extra 1 to unlock 3 and 4.  On a side note, it seems that a lot of my best runs have me dying in the early stages.  If I reset too many times I get too stressed out and then I can't dodge at all!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Shimatora on January 24, 2013, 05:59:28 PM
lol, rage thread.
I'll rage about SA.
The flashing communication bar is lovely, I always want it at maximum. I end up grazing everything stupidly in order to do this.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: I have no name on January 24, 2013, 07:53:30 PM
PoFV lunatic, Shikieiki.
Going into Reimu with 3 spare lives.
Die to first round really fast, no big deal.
Die to second round in BONUS, no big deal.  It's worth noting that Reimu had been on her last hit for 20+ seconds.
Die to third round at 2:44 on the timer.  Should have won here, but whatever, at least I have a spare life.  Reimu was on her last hit since the 2 minute mark, if not sooner.
Get hit to a spirit in the first 15 seconds of the final round, end up dying at 2:04-with Reimu on her last hit for 30+ seconds.

Reimu cheats.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zil on January 24, 2013, 08:11:55 PM
If you don't last 3 minutes you can't expect her to lose.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: chum on January 24, 2013, 08:21:43 PM
PoFV lunatic, Shikieiki.
Going into Reimu with 3 spare lives.
Die to first round really fast, no big deal.
Die to second round in BONUS, no big deal.  It's worth noting that Reimu had been on her last hit for 20+ seconds.
Die to third round at 2:44 on the timer.  Should have won here, but whatever, at least I have a spare life.  Reimu was on her last hit since the 2 minute mark, if not sooner.
Get hit to a spirit in the first 15 seconds of the final round, end up dying at 2:04-with Reimu on her last hit for 30+ seconds.

Reimu cheats.

I find this post really cute  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on January 24, 2013, 08:30:24 PM
me, too. while I play with komachi and end up fighting eiki in the last stage, I'd never be like "wat, AI cheats" with only 2 minutes on the clock. for the last stage, eiki/reimu don't die any quicker after I think 2 rounds. round 1 is impossible I have determined, for round 2 you'd probalby need...at least 5 minutes is my guess, but I never survived for that long, so yeah. I am not sure if losing a 2nd round makes them any easier, but even if, that's the limit. the last stage usually needs 3 minutes at least. with character like shikieiki, reimu or others that aren't terrible at hitting the AI. personally, I think having a window of 3.30-4.00 minutes is a safe bet for the last stage in round 2+. maybe only in round 3+, too. I dunno, man.

there was nothing rageworthy about this run aside from how you played. the AI didn't do anything out of the ordinary. as Zil said: if you don't even last for 3 minutes, don't expect to win.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: ふねん1 on January 24, 2013, 08:53:59 PM
You only need to do extra 1 to unlock 3 and 4.
Selecting  Extra 1 forces you into Extra 2 automatically. The latter replaces Stage 5 when you get to it. If your question was why I was practicing Extra 2 in the first place, that's why.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Oh on January 24, 2013, 09:17:03 PM
edit: wrong thread...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zork787 on January 25, 2013, 09:05:52 PM
UFO! Fucking UFO! forget the Curvy Lasers of Cheapness, Its the 1:1 hit box Ratio on what seems to be 90% of the bullets that is the REAL BS generator!

(http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/2632/th122013012521003323.png)

And before you say anything! Yes I DID attempt to death bomb! But the game was like "Nope, Chugtesta!" I swear Zun made deathbombing in UFO have like a 20% chance of success or somethin, since that's what it feels like at any rate.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on January 25, 2013, 09:18:50 PM
That feeling you get where you dodge impossible Scarlet Gensokyo walls (plural) as NF Reimu only to die to an impossible Scarlet Gensokyo wall afterwards.

It isn't 'rage', really, it's actually a really good feeling, which is why EoSD is awesome. I just have no idea where to put this kind of thing.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zil on January 25, 2013, 11:46:46 PM
I think you'd like PoDD, BT. You get to experience that every two seconds.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Validon98 on January 26, 2013, 12:47:01 AM
All my hatred for you, Mystic Square Extra. All. My. Hatred.
Best so far: first green phase. I've reached it once. Only. Once.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: I have no name on January 26, 2013, 12:56:16 AM
Yes I DID attempt to death bomb!
It really helps to use the bomb -before- you get hit in the first place, when you realize you're trapped and need to bomb.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on January 26, 2013, 12:57:55 AM
All my hatred for you, Mystic Square Extra. All. My. Hatred.
Best so far: first green phase. I've reached it once. Only. Once.

don't be discouraged, most of Alice's phases are rather simple once you figure them out.

like the first red phase (in case you don't wanna be told, I'll put it in spoilers)
it looks like a random mess, but if you stand still, it's always the dodgable in the same way, since it's aimed at you.

at least it was like that to my experience.

or the 2nd purple phase, which might as well be the hardest
the big lasers are static accoding to alice's position, the small ones are aimed at you. misdirecting them properly will pretty much turn this into something rather trivial.

I think of forgot half of what she has, though. I remember the 2nd blue one being one where you have read and dodge, but it still shouldn't be too bad if you're making good use of your resources.

@zork: what IHNN said. deathbombing is unreliable due to all sorts of things. first reason being the player's reaction time. bomb in advance, then you wouldn't have used up all your lives so quickly while having a near full bomb-stock.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Avakyon on January 26, 2013, 09:57:30 AM
So sad I never got the VoWG cap during my MoF sweep. First fail was the double KO where I thought the bullets would despawn in time.
Then just today another clear chance but I bombed due to low confidence when a wall showed up, which proceeded to go around me anyway. I'd probably be better off if I had no power for that card so I would have no choice but to give the walls a go. After that bomb I went through several more walls so I just need to keep away from that X button.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Bang Jan on January 26, 2013, 10:08:40 AM
(http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y538/Bang_Jan/raeg_zps81214d37.png)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Avakyon on January 26, 2013, 01:26:29 PM
Oh god, I've never had anything close to this happen before.
IT'S OKAY TO SPONTANEOUSLY BURST INTO GRAY BALLS EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE (http://youtu.be/P3i2SN6YYGk)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Shimatora on January 26, 2013, 01:30:23 PM
Oh god, I've never had anything close to this happen before.
IT'S OKAY TO SPONTANEOUSLY BURST INTO GRAY BALLS EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE (http://youtu.be/P3i2SN6YYGk)

The spawns for those grey ghosts always throw me off. The amount of times I've rammed those is stupid...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Ecthel on January 26, 2013, 02:11:00 PM
UFO! Fucking UFO! forget the Curvy Lasers of Cheapness, Its the 1:1 hit box Ratio on what seems to be 90% of the bullets that is the REAL BS generator!


And before you say anything! Yes I DID attempt to death bomb! But the game was like "Nope, Chugtesta!" I swear Zun made deathbombing in UFO have like a 20% chance of success or somethin, since that's what it feels like at any rate.

You should just autobomb Midboss Naz anyway. A lot of UFO tokens don't spawn if you take too long on her.

Might not be a good idea on lunatic because of how WAAA the enemies holding the tokens are, but I can usually handle in on normal.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: chum on January 26, 2013, 03:03:26 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/BOQj9bM.jpg)

Well isn't this nice. I've captured Gensokyo every single time since I started scoring on Hard. At least 10 times in practice and plenty of full runs. Not a single fail.

...Until today. The first decent run I've had. I suppose breaking 300m now isn't too shabby, but I lost the large spell bonus (5~ m or so, depending on time) as well as my pride. Thankfully I always try to keep one extra life in case an error like this occurs.

Now I have to keep playing and beat this score with a run that captures Gensokyo or else.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on January 26, 2013, 03:11:25 PM
I think you'd like PoDD, BT. You get to experience that every two seconds.
Last time I experimented with PoDD it was pretty much unplayable. I'll read up more on the emulator / etc. when I'm less lazy, which may be never.

Play Gensokyo with no focus. You won't feel like a wimp ever again.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: chum on January 26, 2013, 03:14:48 PM
I don't like playing no focus because of the loss of precision which is a vital part of these games. It's silliness, and while silliness does have its time and place, a run like this is not the time nor the place  :(
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Flan27 on January 26, 2013, 03:25:03 PM
The spawns for those grey ghosts always throw me off. The amount of times I've rammed those is stupid...

Ahh, I'm reminded of my rage from the demo!  Stage 1 killed me far more times than it had any right to.  I hate those grey ghosts too.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: RNG on January 27, 2013, 01:33:17 AM
Oh god, I've never had anything close to this happen before.
IT'S OKAY TO SPONTANEOUSLY BURST INTO GRAY BALLS EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE (http://youtu.be/P3i2SN6YYGk)

During LNBNT attempts I had about 2 of these a day. Telefragging is a pretty interesting new direction for bullet hell games but I'm not sure I like it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sen on January 27, 2013, 06:40:39 AM
I just died on Kanako's first spellcard.

I just died on Kanako's first spellcard.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Oh on January 28, 2013, 11:27:42 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/YurHE90.jpg)
Ultra Lunatic is something alright. It would be more fun if the patterns were more doable.
I managed my resources great until Kanako's third spell, which I bombed twice.
A clear should have 3 lives 5 power into VoWG, I think.
I got there with 4.50 power and 3 lives, and lasted a short time before bombing. (that 1 power is very important!)
Wonder if the newer version is harder since you had to stream stage 4 / 5 instead of it being aimed away from you. (power is lost upon movement)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Kaze_Senshi on January 29, 2013, 01:48:51 AM
(http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y538/Bang_Jan/raeg_zps81214d37.png)
Dat History reminds my Kaguya's Dragon's Necklace History *cries*

*Insert sad song here*
(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/2734/th004.jpg)
Tooday I made a 1CC game until Utsuho with Alice-Nitori (that shield is pretty useful), then I died and died and died again :(

At least I went until that last spellcard that gives you the illusion that she is losing life fast but when her life is low Utsuho's defense seems to increase, she doesn't die and then you become nuclear ashes :(

One day I'll beat this game and I am almost sure that my first clear will be a 1cc one :/
*Insert Eye of the Tiger song here*


Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Bang Jan on January 29, 2013, 07:54:03 AM
Dat History reminds my Kaguya's Dragon's Necklace History *cries*

*Insert sad song here*

I'll play the song on the worlds smallest violin. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on January 30, 2013, 08:55:21 PM
Muu, two runs straight in a row at UFO LNBNUFO both fail on Stage 4 at Murasa and the very end of Stage 4. It's not so bad to fail the challenge, hell i expect to keep doing that for quite a long time but it's the sorts of deaths i've had today that bugs me. Consistent failing at the bit right after midboss Nue, 2 deaths to Stage 3 - both involving actually dodging the bulk of the threat at hand and then flying into something normally harmless because of poor coordination between head and hands. And of course dying stupidly on Kogasa.

Oh well... I'm having a lot of fun but it's a bit annoying to not die to the actually hard things but only these stupid little trivialities. :(
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zil on January 31, 2013, 12:33:42 AM
That's it. I can't play MS Extra anymore. I can handle the RNG shitting on me constantly. I don't mind that. It even kind of adds to the fun in some ways. But I can't tolerate this emulator. It just stops working whenever it wants. I nearly put my fist through the wall just now, and my hand is numb from it. Twice it has taken 200m away from me, and I'm not putting up with it anymore.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: chum on January 31, 2013, 12:55:47 AM
I feel for you man. PC-98 emulation is shit.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Reiko on February 01, 2013, 12:32:23 AM
In what universe are PCB and IN easier on Lunatic than EoSD ?
There is litterally nothing I can dodge consistently in these games, and weeks of stage/spell practice don't seem to help me improve at it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Yatakarasu on February 01, 2013, 12:52:00 AM
-sigh- Yet another failed UFO 1CC attempt. -sobs-
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: ふねん1 on February 01, 2013, 01:04:03 AM
I honestly wish The Last Comer didn't lag my computer so badly on Lunatic. Not just on Iesua, mind you, but lots of other places too. I know others also have this problem, but it's making my runs so illegitimate it's not even funny. Meh, I guess I shouldn't get too worked up over it since the gameplay isn't really the highlight anyway.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on February 01, 2013, 12:48:22 PM
http://i.imgur.com/Dh9yVg1.png

This made me invent the curse word Sludge Pussy.
The 4 additional runs that failed at the same amount of time left caused me to feel a bit sad.
The 25 runs that ended with less than 10 seconds ago made me think that I'm cursed.

This Ultra pattern is difficult. End of story.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Bang Jan on February 01, 2013, 08:25:20 PM
This Ultra pattern is difficult. End of story.

It's what the card should've been to begin with. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on February 01, 2013, 08:37:15 PM
I tried it, too. just to relate to how difficult it is.

turns out I have the old ultra version where the 2nd ring of big balls stays where it spawned, so it was the normal lunatic card :V laughed my ass off and wanted to post it here in jest, but decided against it because that'd be silly.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Reiko on February 01, 2013, 10:21:55 PM
(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/699572nooooooooo.jpg)

I was so close to a no-bombs Hard clear...why did I have to fail here after capturing Scarlet Meister ?
(also, 666 graze  :V )
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on February 02, 2013, 12:05:03 AM
you know the one thing I hate in PoFV?

getting double hit. like, you get hit, because you screwed up or simply couldn't dodge, and then get forced into a direction of another bullet that hits you not even 2 seconds after. the invincibility frame is not long enough to keep you from getting hit and you have no control yet, BAM hit twice for once mistake.
fucking ruins so many runs. the one thing I despise about this game
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on February 02, 2013, 12:34:47 AM
you know the one thing I hate in PoFV?

getting double hit. like, you get hit, because you screwed up or simply couldn't dodge, and then get forced into a direction of another bullet that hits you not even 2 seconds after. the invincibility frame is not long enough to keep you from getting hit and you have no control yet, BAM hit twice for once mistake.
fucking ruins so many runs. the one thing I despise about this game
It's worse in PoDD

Lost all my lives in the span of 5 seconds at least twice from my maybe 2 hours of playing the game so far
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on February 02, 2013, 12:42:24 AM
yeah, I know. the invincibility frame is just as short in PoDD and you don't even get the luxury of having bullets cleared around you. not that the cleared bullets help when everything goes lightning fast anyway, but yeah.

it's a terrible...something. like, survive for 2 minutes without getting hit > get double hit > you're on your last hit. of course, that doesn't last too long. a match against eiki with that much time in is really damn hectic and being on the last hit just makes you want to use the lvl 2 spells on everything.
thought, from what I have seen until now, no bullets go faster than those against reimu. the disposable pellets just get really crazy at around after 2 minutes. that's probably why reimu is my favorite enemy :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: SirChaotick on February 02, 2013, 08:47:24 AM
Today, after another week of nothing, I finally started attempting the final Lunatic 1cc I have yet to do - of UFO.

WHAT the HELL happened to stage 3?! On hard you could avoid getting walled if you memorised the spawning positions and took the fairies down fast enough, but it no longer appears to be the case. I've tried it seven times now and I'm not certain yet if it can even be done...
Kogasa's second nonspell is also real fun if you're seeing it on Lunatic for the first time.

I have begun fifteen games by now and none of them even reached stage 4. Blech.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on February 02, 2013, 12:37:01 PM
Oh, I absolutely despise Reimu for her "sorry, you gotta micrododge now" spells. Wouldn't have been THAT bad, but NOOO, you have to include super-fast super-big orbs into the mix. You can't focus on both of those shits at the same time. And this is without pellets.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on February 02, 2013, 02:19:33 PM
@SirChaotick : you can still avoid getting walled by those big fairies if you kill them fast enough. you just have to be faster, I guess :V I'd show you my perfect stage 3, but I kinda forgot everything about it and end up dodging through one or two walls.

@BT: well, I don't mind her fairy and witch class spell that much. it's one ring and it's past you pretty quickly (or 2 rings, since she seems to show everything at you twice), but rather the spell attack when she vomits 4-5 rings of amulets. that's the one thing I always try to keep a fairy spell ready. because relying on RNG for that one is the one and only thing I can do if I don't. but aside from that attack, I really like fighting her. it's better than yuka's criss-crossing shit that gets me almost every time if there's something else involved, too. or shikieiki's dark void wall when she decicdes to suddenly reflect a thousand pellets. she's just so unfair :V or, you know marisa with her "I throw one spell at you after another HURR DURR", really.

but hey, preferences.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: I have no name on February 02, 2013, 02:51:38 PM
How to UFO: continue spam.
Grind stages.
Devise UFO route.
Grind stages more.
Go for it and don't screw up UFOs in stages.
Fail anyway because lolderp died with 2 bombs to Byakuren's memo spell.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: LadyScarlet on February 02, 2013, 11:30:13 PM
Just finished my first run of PCB full after it FINALLY came in the mail today. Game over'd to stage 5 boss Youmu. Specifically, her second spell. "I suck" doesn't even BEGIN to describe it. Oh, and did I mention I unintentionally timed out her first spell?  :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Agent of the BSoD on February 03, 2013, 07:47:42 AM
Finally started making progress on StB again, got a few more stages down on level 9, and I have only one left. (note: haven't started level 10 or EX yet) Freakin 9-6. Words cannot describe how evil this spell is. I always fail when she introduces the dark blue bullets.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sen on February 03, 2013, 03:54:43 PM
No-vertical run of MoF Hard. Perfect run for the first half of the game, didn't even have to bomb until Momiji. I got all the way to VoWG and died because I misjudged the card bullets' hitboxes.

I HATE MY LIFE
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Lord Scalgon on February 04, 2013, 06:17:10 PM
A NBND VoWG timeout attempt after about 6-7 months of inactivity...last 10-second timer kicks in.  I think I got this...I GOT THIS!

*5 seconds later

y u do dis

There goes taking the #17 or #18 spot or wherever we're at right now.  Haven't been up-to-date on this for quite a while ever since I attempted for #15 around 9 months ago...

EDIT: Off-topic, but...there's no line breaks anymore...did I miss anything? (disregard this part)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on February 04, 2013, 08:17:55 PM
(http://www.abload.de/img/unbenannty4u21.jpg)

definitely a run worth noting down somewhere. at least the end result. I didn't safe the replay :V I had terrible stage 1-5. my score was exceptionally low. not even 20 million after stage 5. I had on ok marisa fight. first rounded ended somewhere around 1.35, second around 1.30 with marisa losing. I definitely got better against her. every 3rd run or so, I manage to survive for around 2 minutes in the first round. my best was 2:11 a few days ago. I play to make 2 minutes my absolute average time. I think you'd need 2:30 to win in the first round. seems unrealistic, so I am not even going to try :V got around 8 million out of this fight altogether. so I was at 27 when I went into the next stage.
Yuka fight was pretty good this time. both rounds lasted until around the 1:45. I could have definitely done better in the first; surviving like 20 seconds more or so, but I won't press it too much. it was my fault entirely, just have to do better next time. score was pretty high, however. from 27 million to 45 million.
Then came Reimu. :V the first round eded at 1:50 or so. It was okay, could have definitely done better, but I was satisfied with that. The second round was absolutely terrible and I never want to see something like that from me again. it will happen, but I won't like it :V I died at 1:20. Won in the 3rd round at around 2:05. I want to get my Reimu rounds up to 2 minutes on average, too. I don't know how long you have to survive to win in the 2nd round (I think 2:30), but with an average of 2 minutes, my score should be really high if I fight her for 3 rounds. It was here, too. went from 45 million to 68 million. I think around 8-10 million was due to chaining, though. I had a good amount of time in the first and third round where I maxed out the spell bonus points.
Eiki went a lot like I expected in the first two round. I failed miserably. First ended at 1:40, 2nd at 1:20. it sounds ridiculous, but I definitely need to average up to 3 minutes if I want to win. currently I am somewhere slightly below two. In actual runs, the pressure adds to it, so I say substracting 10-20 seconds here is appropriate. That's no good. I definitely need to work on my Eiki fights. the third round was as you can see. I almost managed 2:30, but that's still 30 seconds short of miminim victory. the funny thing about it is I lost all of my hits in the first minute, so I went over 90 seconds without getting hit. Had I not been so stupid in the beginning of the round, I might have won. alas, it wasn't meant to be this time.

despite all the failure I have shown here, I still noticed a good deal of improvement. I used to lose 2 lives to yuka minimum and most runs ended on reimu. I can get to shikieiki most of the time now; if only with one spare life due to not making the 70 million for various reasons (most notably being me failing hard and losing a round or two really early). heck, when I started out, I often died to stage 4 or 5 :V Reimu needs to get better and so does shikieiki, but these are steps I am currently undertaking, anyway. a little consistency on Yuka and marisa are important, too, but those will come along with it, I think. getting the 90 million extend won't be necessary if my lives are placed as in this run - Shikeiki won't die any sooner than in the 3rd round, even if I spend all my lives on her. having 2 spares is enough; more would only mean more chances and I don't really want to have a victory where I spent 5 lives on her and got the vicotry due to chance :V etc etc
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: ciddypoo on February 04, 2013, 08:43:43 PM
Arrrrgh 5% left on QED and I get clipped when I bilnked! Why Flandre why.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on February 04, 2013, 10:00:48 PM
70 straight failures at timing out Wild Carpet.

Gods, i feel like shit now.  :(
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on February 05, 2013, 03:56:20 AM
70 straight failures at timing out Wild Carpet.

Gods, i feel like shit now.  :(

don't worry. I died 150 times and didn't manage. I gave up after that. and it's not because I played 150 fps. I just suck :v

why time out wild carpet anyway? go time out Futo, tojiko, Yoshika and Yuyuko or Miko. those are definitely easier. wild carpet would definitely be one of those I'd capture :V

if you are using the replay for what I think you will.

EDIT: well, I can actually contribute :V

(http://www.abload.de/img/unbenanntcjkbt.jpg)

a run from just now. I was doing super well until I got hit the first time. somewhere in the 1:5x, is what my feeling says, anyway. it was 2:30 when I was down to my last hit and I hoped I could survive for just 30 seconds more.

damnit, just maybe 10 seconds and I could have won. 10 in game seconds ;_; still shaking. tht was really fucking intense. pure dope.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zil on February 05, 2013, 04:39:20 AM
Holy shit, Sakurei. You nearly had it!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on February 05, 2013, 05:07:54 AM
Holy shit, Sakurei. You nearly had it!

yeah, that's exactly it! I almost had it. I think I can do it this month, though. I have been improving my times a lot in the past week, so that's something.

sunday would be awesome for a cool birthday present to myself, but we'll see how that turns out.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Tsym on February 05, 2013, 05:30:34 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/BpX6Lg5.jpg)

Did you know that this card can give you a pretty much solid wall?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: ciddypoo on February 05, 2013, 04:39:49 PM
If only Marisa had Reimu's hitbox, ne?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Oh on February 05, 2013, 04:59:49 PM
>UFO Lunatic attempt
>perfect stage 1+2
>game over to stage 3
Okay
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on February 05, 2013, 05:47:35 PM
why time out wild carpet anyway? go time out Futo, tojiko, Yoshika and Yuyuko or Miko. those are definitely easier. wild carpet would definitely be one of those I'd capture :V

More a less a combination of the following reasons:

- Because I'm a fucking idiot with something to prove.
- Because I'm a masochist with patience for things that I find within my ability
- Because I need something to compensate for my blunt 'fuck no'ing' to your Guze Flash challenge  :V
- Because IRC channel friends are a good source of motivation for going the extra mile.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Seppo Hovi on February 05, 2013, 08:09:43 PM
Yeah right. IRC channels are the worst.

(http://i.imgur.com/tnbEShs.jpg)
Considering this is no-focus pacifism I feel rather dumb now.

Rather dumb.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: ふねん1 on February 05, 2013, 08:44:44 PM
Another SA Lunatic 1lc attempt, and I die on Utsuho's second nonspell. Yeah, I'm so skilled. >.<

I only wish that having runs that last this long didn't make me too wired to immediately try again. At least I know now that I can handle full-game runs listening just to Mankind Salvation Plan (seriously, that song rocks).
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on February 05, 2013, 09:36:47 PM
More a less a combination of the following reasons:

- Because I'm a fucking idiot with something to prove.
- Because I'm a masochist with patience for things that I find within my ability
- Because I need something to compensate for my blunt 'fuck no'ing' to your Guze Flash challenge  :V
- Because IRC channel friends are a good source of motivation for going the extra mile.

prove...what? :V
everyone here is a masochist if it's something within the limitations of their ability :V why do you think I was trying hundreds of time for GFW extra. etc etc
seeing how nobody even talked about how bullshit that challenge is, I kinda doubt I'll get any replays for it. but we'll see. the month is still young.
are they? I have no friends :V on IRC anyway.

Yeah right. IRC channels are the worst.

(http://i.imgur.com/tnbEShs.jpg)
Considering this is no-focus pacifism I feel rather dumb now.

Rather dumb.

ouch. sorry to see this. it's all my fault :V but let me tell you everyone else died before the 10 seconds mark, so you're doing better than they are, at the very least. DURR.

feel free to focus next time.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on February 05, 2013, 10:27:15 PM
prove...what? :V

That this old dog still has a bit of bite in him even though he's being raped by the babies.

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seeing how nobody even talked about how bullshit that challenge is, I kinda doubt I'll get any replays for it. but we'll see. the month is still young.
That pattern was just completely out of my swords to dodge. I don't even think i could read it even if my character still controlled like 60FPS. It's fast and colorful and weird. A joke normally but 50% faster really makes a difference. I'm interested in seeing how many people will clear this one.

They told me to wiggle left and right until i got lucky but I didn't within 2 minutes so i quit :V

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are they? I have no friends :V on IRC anyway.

What channels do you go to/Do you even go on IRC? Our place is great, but it's top secret and very dirty and shooting gamey and there's a chance of being sexually assualted in there so it would be morally wrong for me to reveal the name. Think of all the children browsing this forum.  :D

Yeah right. IRC channels are the worst.

No that fuckup is the worst. Seriously, what? That thing no-focus? You need to stop making it sound like i'm better than you are.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on February 05, 2013, 10:33:25 PM
I used to frequent IRC on some channels, but stopped somewhere. I don't even know if they are still active. try to get online on #shrinemaiden more often, but obviously that's not the channel you are talking about :V

feel free to PM it to me to prevent the poor children from seeing it. I'm almost 20, I can handle it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on February 05, 2013, 11:07:53 PM
Sure, i'll send it to you.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zork787 on February 07, 2013, 11:51:03 AM
After about 3 hours of RAGE, and FRUSTRATION of constantly Game Overing (mainly to Satori) to BS In SA Hard mode, simply so I can unlock the stages for practice (using Reimu A for this) after about my 4th Game over to Utsuho, the game decides to send me back to STAGE 1!!...

There are not enough tables I can flip to express my RAGE!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Bang Jan on February 07, 2013, 07:00:06 PM
Lost a Blind Nightbird timeout at the 0 seconds mark.

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Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: I have no name on February 07, 2013, 07:31:33 PM
Lost a Blind Nightbird timeout at the 0 seconds mark.
ok.
:flamingv: times OVER NINE THOUSAND!!!!!11!1ONE11!!1one combo
no.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Seppo Hovi on February 07, 2013, 07:49:55 PM
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Dude... (http://i.imgur.com/kxiBoNJ.png)

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Yeah ok, sorry to hear that you fucked up a timeout attempt at 00 seconds of card left, but that happens to everyone. It has happened before, and it'll happen again. It's not something you should slit your wrists over, really. Just think that you get to feel the rush of a good attempt once again, every time you make the mistake, you get to feel it, and it's a great feeling. Nothing to feel much rage over, eh?

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Also, I believe it's been told to you before to not spam the smilies function so much. I mean... seriously. Man.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: an unmatched sock on February 10, 2013, 02:54:42 AM
Anything with a curvy laser, or multiple differently-aimed laser paths...I am so terrible with them. UFO Stages 5 and 6 are so ragetastic because of it. Argh...only reason I haven't 1cc'd UFO yet on Normal. Curse you, tiger and Youkai Jesus! Your curvy lasers won't save you forever! Also, SA Extra stage. Annoyance in the highest degree, but the music just makes me keep going back...I can beat up to Koishi perfectly...but I haven't even seen her second nonspell.  Sadface.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Limian on February 10, 2013, 01:50:22 PM
Anything with a curvy laser, or multiple differently-aimed laser paths...I am so terrible with them. UFO Stages 5 and 6 are so ragetastic because of it. Argh...only reason I haven't 1cc'd UFO yet on Normal. Curse you, tiger and Youkai Jesus! Your curvy lasers won't save you forever! Also, SA Extra stage. Annoyance in the highest degree, but the music just makes me keep going back...I can beat up to Koishi perfectly...but I haven't even seen her second nonspell.  Sadface.
Koishi's first spell is really memo-heavy, and it will a lot of your runs early on. it's probably best to save a replay of it and examine how the spell works afterwards (this is good advice for extra spells in general, like l?vatein, nightmare of heiankyou etc.) because you might not have any clear view of what's going on in the heat of the moment. if you're using reimuA, using a few bombs for testing purposes could also help to decipher this spell.
sadly, of all extra bosses, koishi has the most "you just have to get used to this" spells (she took me by far the longest). just keep going and going and going until you beat her eventually. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Yatakarasu on February 10, 2013, 03:32:06 PM
>Trying to clear MoF Normal with Marisa C
>Gets to Kanako with 1 life
"This won't end well.
>Game overs by the end of her 2nd card.
 :fail:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Flan27 on February 10, 2013, 07:53:59 PM
>Trying to clear MoF Normal with Marisa C
>Gets to Kanako with 1 life
"This won't end well.
>Game overs by the end of her 2nd card.
 :fail:

God, I hate Kanako's second card.  It's what you would call clip death, isn't it?  Dah, it really stresses me out.  On a side note, I got to Kanako with 5 lives recently, but then got cocky and lost a whole bunch on the last three spell, resulting in a game over.  )= She's really not that tough as far as final bosses go, but... gah.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: an unmatched sock on February 10, 2013, 10:26:21 PM
Koishi's first spell is really memo-heavy, and it will a lot of your runs early on. it's probably best to save a replay of it and examine how the spell works afterwards (this is good advice for extra spells in general, like l?vatein, nightmare of heiankyou etc.) because you might not have any clear view of what's going on in the heat of the moment. if you're using reimuA, using a few bombs for testing purposes could also help to decipher this spell.
sadly, of all extra bosses, koishi has the most "you just have to get used to this" spells (she took me by far the longest). just keep going and going and going until you beat her eventually. :V

Yeah, I've seen videos of Koishi runs. I just either forget placement on her second laser barrage or dodge the wrong bullet during the lock-on bullets part right afterwards and get hit by a normally non-threatening bullet or I go in the path of a lock-on...or I get clipped or something. Like you said, it's memo-heavy, and I know I can do it...it's just getting all the way BACK that frustrates me whenever I die. Flan seems sorta easy compared to this...although I had invested more time on my Flandre run than Koishi's, as of now. And I haven't gotten to Nue yet. KOISHI Y U HAVE TO HAVE SUCH AN ADDICTING THEME...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Makedounia on February 10, 2013, 10:33:15 PM
Stupid SA. I'm one 1cc away from clearing every windows game with every shot type on normal. Wanna guess what the shot type is? Hint: it's one of Marisa's.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on February 10, 2013, 10:45:45 PM
it has to be marisaA. it's easily the worst shot in the game.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Makedounia on February 11, 2013, 02:40:45 PM
^ Nope, It's MarisaB

Stupid Nue keeps destroying me with her ufo spellcards, green and rainbow to be exact.  I hate them so much!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Yatakarasu on February 11, 2013, 03:04:52 PM
God dammit, Kanako! Why can't you just go down quickly during your last card!? I hate you so much!  :getdown:
Another failed Marisa C run if you couldn't tell.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Tsym on February 12, 2013, 03:49:41 AM
^ Nope, It's MarisaB

Stupid Nue keeps destroying me with her ufo spellcards, green and rainbow to be exact.  I hate them so much!
I don't know what shot type you use, but some powerful shot types (ReimuA, MarisaA, SanaeB too I think) can actually nail a green UFO if you follow it across the screen before it can fire its laser, making the card much easier. Rainbow is just hard if you aren't used to it though, so I sympathize with you there.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: LadyScarlet on February 12, 2013, 04:36:04 AM
Am I the only one who finds EoSD harder with the Vsynch patch than without? Without, I had a decent run of Stage 4 until Water Elf, when my lives started dropping to the point where I rage quitted. With the Vsynch patch, I couldn't capture a single spellcard save for Patchy's final card, and I died THREE TIMES trying to time out Princess Undine for practice. And that's not even counting the stage portion. Oh god, the post-Koakuma stage portion...  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on February 12, 2013, 12:40:11 PM
Wow. I don't play well at all this 'morning' (3 hours ago since i woke up). I was doing some consistency grinding and it took 11 runs before I get a decent UFO Stage 2 in. 3 of those even had me shoot Kogasa too quickly making it impossible to get into the safespot...

Then Ichirin gave me a good beating too. KKS i only failed once but then i could proceed to fail the rest of her stuff for like 6 runs or so before i got a decent one. Feels good to know that I've got a decent grasp of KKS even when playing badly but it's still annoying when the bosses you usually have down pretty consistently suddenly becomes bitches.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zork787 on February 12, 2013, 04:45:24 PM
(http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/8729/th082013021216325040.png)

I have never seen a more INFURIATING Spell Card to date! No matter how many times I attempt it, Always end up getting BSed! in some way! Weather it be getting walled, or clipped, or just plain screwed over!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Makedounia on February 13, 2013, 04:14:22 AM
I don't know what shot type you use, but some powerful shot types (ReimuA, MarisaA, SanaeB too I think) can actually nail a green UFO if you follow it across the screen before it can fire its laser, making the card much easier. Rainbow is just hard if you aren't used to it though, so I sympathize with you there.
I have never thought of that.... I'll definitely try that next time. Thanks!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Ranko Hoshino on February 13, 2013, 05:13:15 AM
http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/8729/th082013021216325040.png

I have never seen a more INFURIATING Spell Card to date! No matter how many times I attempt it, Always end up getting BSed! in some way! Weather it be getting walled, or clipped, or just plain screwed over!
Maybe my capture of that spell could help some?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09H1XMX6-P4
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: RNG on February 15, 2013, 12:57:18 AM
5 lives into Remilia. No clear (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=26949).

I'm never going to touch shmups again.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: an unmatched sock on February 15, 2013, 02:01:16 AM
5 lives into Remilia. No clear (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=26949).

I'm never going to touch shmups again.

I know that feel. I remember having six lives at Remi in EoSD and failing miserably. And other similar situations with other final bosses.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Jq1790 on February 15, 2013, 02:26:45 AM
5 lives into Remilia. No clear (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=26949).

I'm never going to touch shmups again.
While I've not been doing well enough for 5 lives into a final boss, I've had 3-4 and failed.  The Stage 6 bosses can take a FULL set of lives if you're not prepared at the time, so don't give up!  Just gotta try it again til she's begging for mercy!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zork787 on February 15, 2013, 10:58:00 AM
U

F

O!

trying to clear Stage 5 on hard mode....

I am seriously considering giving up Touhou for good at this rate!

:headdesk:

Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on February 15, 2013, 12:10:09 PM
>Stage 1 Reimu death in 20 seconds
>Reboot
>Stage 1 Rikako death in 20 seconds

Oh rage spike, it's been a while
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: RNG on February 15, 2013, 07:40:25 PM
Haha, I think I might have overreacted. I'm mostly pissed that I captured books and started psyching myself out about "oh this is TEH URN". Then I died to Remi's opener despite having practiced her for like 6 hours over the last few days. It'll happen some time soon, I just don't like being so fucking slow.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Nindella on February 16, 2013, 01:57:46 AM
Failed No-Bomb SA Lunatic ReimuC with 3 lives on the final spell card. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=26963)

I've poured out all my rage already on something else, I don't think there's much else I can say or do,  night night everyone
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: PhantomSong on February 16, 2013, 02:12:31 AM
Completely failing my no-death IN run on Lunatic by sneezing.... ;_;
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on February 18, 2013, 01:41:49 AM
so, I play PoDD lunatic for a bit. I fail hard, just as karisa and BT. and PMW, apparently. I never expected anything great out of it. I managed to beat the first 5 stages without losing a single life, which is great, because it never happened before. I also had well over 20 million points, so I already got both extends.

the reimu happened. I game over'd. I lost 5 lives to her :V why the fuck did the game only get harder with each life I lost. it's like "oh hey, look. you just died. making the game harder probably helps you!" by the time I was on my last life, the bullets were so fast, I couldn't even manage to press X in time. I died within the first 30 seconds. it wasn't even chiyuri's fault that I failed so hard. I kinda feel like I got her speed under control most of the time. reimu just wouldn't die. if I had to guess, the first round went well over 2 minutes without any of us losing any hits. like, what the fuck? I am actually forced to assume that the AI in this game doesn't die by timer, but by "the harder everything gets for you, the more possible it is for the AI to die" like, I actually have to reflect shit and stuff :V I actually knew that already, though. in this fight, it just really sank in. I didn't use any spells in case reimu's boss appeared on my side. to, you know, cast it back. so nothing much happened for the most part. 

but yeah, that was kind of disappointing. it's also funny how I never beat reimu. until now, I always game over'd to her, no matter which stage I met her. so I suppose I can to work on that. I can't dodge her boss attacks for shit. the reflectable one in particuliar hits me a lot. even though it's...reflectable :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zork787 on February 18, 2013, 11:42:31 PM
Why can't I hold, all this bullshit! (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=27021)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on February 18, 2013, 11:56:48 PM
I'm pretty sure there IS input lag in PoDD

Or in MY PoDD, I don't know

I feel like the bomb key isn't being pressed fast enough, and/or that I'm sluggish in general

I'm pretty sure my config is 100% ok too, which makes me think it's all in my head

But I visibly fail to bomb way too many times and it's just in PoDD, my reflexes are fine in other games, so it has to be

x_x
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: PMW on February 19, 2013, 12:45:29 AM
I'm pretty sure there IS input lag in PoDD

Or in MY PoDD, I don't know

I feel like the bomb key isn't being pressed fast enough, and/or that I'm sluggish in general

I'm pretty sure my config is 100% ok too, which makes me think it's all in my head

But I visibly fail to bomb way too many times and it's just in PoDD, my reflexes are fine in other games, so it has to be

x_x

Are you sure it's lag and not the Marisa/Chiyuri Lvl 1 glitch? The one where you can't bomb while using a lvl 1 charge attack?

Or maybe it's just your emulator? I personally use Anex98 and I never get any input lag in PoDD

As for me I still can't handle PoDD Lunatic. Mostly because apparently every single bullet is filled with super turbo boost.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zil on February 19, 2013, 04:05:56 AM
So I gave the 90fps thing a try.

(http://i.imgur.com/wK4j4IH.png)

... crap.

On the plus side, the cries of PoDD's innocent victims is music to my ears~
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Yatakarasu on February 19, 2013, 02:22:05 PM
> Playing SA on hard
> Gets past first three stages and only 1 lost life, even captured Yuugi's last card with no power
> Loses most lives on stage 4 and then Game overs to Satori
:sobs:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on February 20, 2013, 12:26:53 PM
Fuck, why can't I stop dying to Vajra and CC all of a sudden. It's annoying as hell. These cards are supposed to be easy and they used to be for me but now all of a sudden these cards are the hard ones while the usual bitch RTG is being more manageable.

This is so fucking useless. Absolutely fucking useless. I need to stop being such a horrible player but it seems no matter how hard I try I'm not getting anywhere.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Star King on February 21, 2013, 11:36:39 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/cDlUcKS.png)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Elysia on February 21, 2013, 12:12:52 PM
Okay, this is ridiculous. I've perfected Megumi Yaobi at least twice already that I remember, and probably three times, so why the hell can't I perfect her one more time while I'm recording it?

I've lost a run to literally everything in her arsenal except the second noncard. Granted, nothing in Megumi's fight is really "easy", but you'd think I'd have at least some bloody consistency.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Makedounia on February 21, 2013, 09:29:45 PM
Damn it! I'm having incredibly hard time with Great Fairy Wars. No way I'm going to 1cc that shit!

I just came to say... Fuck you Nue!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Oh on February 23, 2013, 11:50:43 PM
http://youtu.be/weaxkiJWNWA
FUCK YOU REMILIA
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on February 24, 2013, 12:26:17 AM
http://youtu.be/weaxkiJWNWA
FUCK YOU REMILIA
She knows. (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13547.msg896094.html#msg896094)

Pretty much identical. That's amazing.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Mesarthim on February 24, 2013, 01:30:17 AM
I'm pretty sure I'll never be good at Shou, especially on hard mode since I can do that for every game. However 12 still causes me problems!

I am severely weak to patterns that come from multiple angles and sides! Murasa, Shou, Byakuren, ah screw it, everyone. Demon of Purification always tends to clip me and there's no way I'd live to even see complete clarification.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Yatakarasu on February 24, 2013, 05:20:50 AM
Ugh. I am so out of practice on my extra stages. I'm lucky if I can even get to Koishi now...

In other news, I finally got past MoF Stage 4 on Hard. Then I game over'd to Midboss Sanae.  :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Mesarthim on February 24, 2013, 05:48:21 AM
Ugh. I am so out of practice on my extra stages. I'm lucky if I can even get to Koishi now...

In other news, I finally got past MoF Stage 4 on Hard. Then I game over'd to Midboss Sanae.  :colonveeplusalpha:

Oh I know the pain of MoF hard mode stage 4. Particularly my problem is Aya's last card if I decide to not bomb. TWO TIMES in a row I get it all the way down and clear it only for a remnant bullet to clip me and make me fail "and" lose a life.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Yatakarasu on February 24, 2013, 06:05:43 AM
It was pretty much like:

"Oh, that's nice Aya."
"Nice card/non-spell you got there."
> bombs furiously
> clip death
> bombs out of anger
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Elysia on February 24, 2013, 07:10:59 PM
So I get to Danmaku Bounded Field, in a run where I'd perfected absolutely everything up to that point.

First wave, I start thinking about how to handle the fourth wave, since it's easily the hardest one for me and I can't consistently get the safespot, and while I'm thinking about that, I'm failing to handle the first wave. I get hopelessly walled by the FIRST FUCKING WAVE and die, and then proceed to capture the rest of the card. And on top of losing a perfect in just about the stupidest way possible, my end score was such that I almost certainly would have made a billion if not for that. I normally don't care about scoring but holy crap, my first billion, how nice would that have been...

...sigh. Going to sleep now.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Yatakarasu on February 25, 2013, 06:05:59 AM
Playing some SA on normal, trying to clear another shot type.
Playing as MarisaA.
Amazing run heading into stage 5. Only lost 2 lives and captured a good number of cards. (expect Satori's...)
Gets to stage 6 with 4 spare lives. Orin you are still a monster.
Loses 2 to the stage, one on the very last enemy. :/
Game overs to "Heaven and Hell Meltdown."
Goes to sob quietly in the corner. I do blame myself for a good chuck of this fail. I was a bit reckless during Orin and Okuu. Trying to conserve bombs instead of trying to survive. But that run was going sooooo well. Makes me so mad I screwed that up.

I would like I add that I hate MarisaA's bombs.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: MTSranger on February 27, 2013, 06:46:18 AM
Died to the first wave of Greatest Treasure.
Proceed to time it out flawlessly.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Piranha on February 27, 2013, 10:44:44 AM
Stage 5 SA Normal ReimuB

No replay because ragequit
Best part is that I did the stage with only 1 death in practice mode, and then go and screw up an almost perfect run by dieing to every fucking thing possible and forgetting how to bomb.

tl;dr::colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Oh on February 27, 2013, 04:22:19 PM
I gave NBNT one more try.
3 lives in stock entering stage 5.
Run into fairy at the start, die to midboss, die to spam.
Perfect Futo fight.
Game over to Miko's first non just as I was saying "I can perfect her too!!"
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Wriggle on February 27, 2013, 07:24:18 PM
I just lost an EoSD no-focus 1cc to Scarlet Gensokyo. :colonveeplusalpha:

...sigh, better go back to Skyrim.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Reiko on February 27, 2013, 10:09:25 PM
Facing Patchouli with 6 extra lives :
> 2 deaths at Green Storm
> 1 death at Water Elf
> 1 death at first part of stage 5
> fails to pick up the 1up from midboss
> 1 death at second part of stage 5
> 2 deaths and game over at Sakuya's opener.

Why can't I stay focused more than 5 minutes ?
I always start thinking about other stuff while playing, there's just no way my mind will stop wandering.  :ohdear:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Karisa on February 28, 2013, 02:53:43 AM
OK, how did I manage to game over here (http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee487/KarisaMirisame/85017600.png) of all places? And not just once, but two attempts in a row?

Yes, both attempts had mistakes earlier, since I'm supposed to have a life or two remaining (to spend bombing Yuka's power items), but still.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Yatakarasu on February 28, 2013, 06:20:44 PM
BYAKUREN!  :getdown:
Failed at her last card again. I only had one bomb and no lives...Went into the fight with 2 lives 5 bombs. Should have had three lives...but I stupidly let Nue kill me. Ugh, Shou also is still an issue. UFO why do you hate me so?

Several hours later:
Holy crap. Not one but, two more failed attempts at that last card. One I went into the last card with 2 lives 2 bombs...Why~
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Limian on March 02, 2013, 09:49:36 PM
Did somewhat badly at various parts in PCB hard, so I continue at Flashing Slash Formation. shortly afterwards, another continue at stage 6 spam. and then? proceed to capture Yuyuko's 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th spell cards. seriously, what could have been..
notably, I died twice at Stradivarius, ruining a perfect Prismriver fight and possibly the entire run.
and over the whole run, I only failed 6 spellcards. damn these good-bad runs.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Validon98 on March 02, 2013, 10:56:31 PM
Trying MarisaC in Subterranean Animism on Normal, because I could. Stages 1 and 2 were perfect, Stage 3 was fine except I died twice. And then Stage 4... I freaked out when Extending Arm came back, and then Trauma from the Depths outright screwed me over. Tell me, how the hell do you do that?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Jmyster on March 05, 2013, 04:36:22 AM
Got an anime club member to play Touhou 6.
6 months later I inquire/poke him to play.
He had actually managed to clear the game (once) without continues. Didn't realize I WANTED to talk about Touhou/share runs.
I ask for a replay to get the ball rolling.
HE DIDN'T SAVE IT AAAAAAAARRRGH!!

*ahem*

It's out of the box rage, but the angriest I've been in Touhou since trying to 1cc SA. ORIIIN! (at least the final success was that much more satisying)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Wriggle on March 05, 2013, 05:13:57 AM
Oh hey, I'm bored, why not try some pacifist SA Extra?

>perfect up to Rorschach.
>game over at it.

wat.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: DeltaSierra4 on March 06, 2013, 04:40:47 PM
Tried to do a 1cc run on PCB after a long break. Doing pretty good, save for 1 or 2 deaths on stages 3 and 4, and then lose all lives at Youmu

WHAT. THE. FUCK. >:(
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Mesarthim on March 07, 2013, 03:20:25 AM
Alright! Today is weird that I have finally cleared Lotus Land Story and Mystic Square's extra stages. However...

Ignoring the next to last pattern of extra alice, that final part... Getting halfway to two-thirds of the way through the final stretch only to get clipped in a way you can't follow (you = me). Reaction time is overrated  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Jq1790 on March 07, 2013, 03:24:58 AM
lose all lives at Youmu
This is what she does.  The sisters soften you up and then Youmu cuts you into bite-size chunks.  (I recall her first boss spell being particularly nasty when I had originally been playing it on Normal, and it just gets WORSE on Hard...Dunno what difficulty you're playing on, but still.  don't even wanna imagine Lunatic!Youmu.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: DeltaSierra4 on March 07, 2013, 04:30:25 PM
@Jq: Yeah this probably has been said so many times before but there's the sudden difficulty jump, regardless of whether it's easy or lunatic mode, between the Prismriver sisters and Youmu in PCB that will definitely hit you hard if you haven't been playing PCB in a long while - like what happened to me :( Oh well she's still one of my favorites <3
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Ecthel on March 09, 2013, 05:04:46 AM
I'M GONNA BEAT HARD MODE MIKO WITH ONLY ONE LIFE GOING IN

OK, I only have two bombs and no lives now, but I can dodge guse flash like a cha-

*windows dialog pops up*

*PINCHUUUN*
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Drake on March 10, 2013, 07:29:43 AM
asdf (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=27296)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Yatakarasu on March 10, 2013, 03:08:33 PM
I take back everything I said about Koishi's Extra Stage. Nue's is 10x worse. D:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Mino ☆ on March 11, 2013, 03:14:29 PM
>Tries UFO LNB.
>Perfects Ichirin
>Does a 1 miss Murasa
>Captures Greatest Treasure
>Gets to Shou wtih 7 lives
>Dies twice to the second nonspell and twice to vajra
>Proceeds to die three times during the stage portion of stage 6
>Reaches Byakuren with 1 spare life and two power
>Gameovers on Cloudy Way in Purple

I should  practice more.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Jq1790 on March 11, 2013, 06:02:51 PM
*starts playing Defiant of Shrine Maiden again even though no English patch is out*

Fighting the first boss over and over and over again because they REFUSE to give me their item after I blast them to bits is rather annoying.  I thought I read in DoSM bosses had like a 40% chance to drop their item...so why haven't I gotten it after the past like 15, 20 fights?  It's too good NOT to get it, and this is the only chance I have, too, so it's extra annoying.  Oh well.  *continues to smash the afro kid's face in*
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Marisa Kirisame on March 11, 2013, 08:24:11 PM
Need I say more? This happens too damn much.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Marisa Kirisame on March 11, 2013, 08:49:31 PM
why the fuck are you guys even complaining?

(http://www.abload.de/img/unbenanntbmo9n.jpg)

and I want to perfect that stage soonish. x)

I dunno, why Are they complaining? lols

[attach=1]

that whole screen......... happy I did them but damn my record sucks.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Marisa Kirisame on March 11, 2013, 09:12:04 PM
Really Mokou? Really? I always bomb your last non-spell (a.k.a. Rings of Death) everytime I face i but the first time I play you on 90FPS I cap it? what the fuck girl, what the fuck?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Oh on March 11, 2013, 11:49:02 PM
I really want to like SA, I really do. But for me, playing it is beyond frustrating.
I can't describe it, but every time I try to play SA I am left disappointed by my inability to do well.
Always I die right before capturing an attack. Always I move too much or too little, etc.
I guess the stages are less straight-forward as earlier titles, but I shouldn't be doing this bad.
And then there's the parts where I don't know what to do.
I've watched several NB replays in attempt to produce one myself, however I cannot learn anything, I always forget strategies or get them mixed up.
I'm so horrible at SA that I can't even NMNB stage 3. The lasers post mid-Yuugi completely destroys me.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Makedounia on March 12, 2013, 07:45:19 PM
I was practicing TD stages 3 and 4 on hard. I perfected both. So far so good. Then I tried to 1cc... Both of those stages took 2 lives. On top of that, I SOMEHOW made it to Miko's last spellcard. Nope, still not hard 1cc.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Mino ☆ on March 13, 2013, 09:15:37 AM
(http://oi45.tinypic.com/1195r49.jpg)

This was a failed UFO Lunatic No Bombs attempt. I got to stage 6 with max lives AFTER perfecting Shou. This is just ridiculous!

I let my nervousness get the better of me, and I failed miserably. This is definitely THE biggest Touhou loss I've ever had. I could rant all day about it, but that won't turn back time will it?

Basically, I died once at the ying yangs on the stage. And I failed to make back that life because a UFO escaped my grasp, leaving me with 7 lives and a shattered morale on Byakuren. I then proceeded to die twice to Cloudy Way in Purple, and then twice to the second nonspell. I captured Magic Butterfly and the third nonspell, but then I died twice to Magic Milky Way. I know I suck at that spell, but I shouldn't die twice. Abysmal. I capture the last nonspell, and then somehow, by some miracle, capture Devil's Recitation with only 1 power. And then I somehow died to Superhuman, which sort of killed the last spare life I had. And then I get to LFS on my last life, with only 3 power. And then the "AFTER" picture happened.

Still can't believe I lost this.

UPDATE: I managed to get a UFO LNB!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on March 13, 2013, 03:19:53 PM
^ :&&&&

ANYWAY

I swear

I lose a life on Stage 6 Rikako with Mima because I let go of the shot button a tiny bit too early (causing a level 4 to turn into a level 3).
I lose a life on Stage 6 Rikako with Mima because I got hit by a stray pellet after a screen-sized barrage of pellets.
I lose a life on Stage 6 Rikako with Mima because I'm dumb and I don't bomb.
Then I barely won the fourth match.

...Which put me up against Decisive Match Reimu with no spare lives.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on March 13, 2013, 08:58:51 PM
Meh. Today I've lost a handful of Ichirin and Kogasa pacifists due to world record breaking stupidity.

I also tried my hand at some Shou pacifisting. Then I got a decent run in where I survived everything but the 2nd non (which is pretty much luck anyway) but then I fucked up like a stupid retard and got hit by Vajra and Complete Clarification. Herp derp, real stupid, should irl suicide to lower the rank some but I doubt that'll work and it's illegal to do that other thing that might make me happy again so I'll just go watch some cute loli anime instead.

Have a nice day folks. And apologies to the guys for having to listen to my whine.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Elysia on March 13, 2013, 09:44:57 PM
Ugh. I don't expect MB LNB to be easy or anything, but I really should not be dying five times to stage four, two of which came on the same spellcard. That was just pathetic.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Yatakarasu on March 14, 2013, 01:34:07 AM
I lost three lives to Danmaku Chimera. WHAT THE FUCK! This card is not hard.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Marisa Kirisame on March 14, 2013, 03:21:40 AM
I lost three lives to Danmaku Chimera. WHAT THE FUCK! This card is not hard.

How? That must have been some seriously bad luck
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on March 14, 2013, 09:56:54 AM
Game Over'd by Stage 3 Reimu.

What a bitch.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Yatakarasu on March 14, 2013, 12:36:44 PM
How? That must have been some seriously bad luck
That and a combination of just not being used to it (and a terrible keyboard).
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Marisa Kirisame on March 14, 2013, 01:53:44 PM
That and a combination of just not being used to it (and a terrible keyboard).
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terrible keyboard? Is one of your diagonals disabled like mine?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Yatakarasu on March 14, 2013, 03:38:54 PM
No. I play on a laptop, because college, and it likes to ghost all the time and moving left is much harder than moving right. I plan on fixing this over the summer.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Elysia on March 14, 2013, 04:34:02 PM
That's how many restarts forced by Konoha? Ten? Freaking tanukis.

She's not even hard, just really really clip-happy, and I cannot afford to clipdeath on stage one when I have a no-bombs Lunatic ahead of me.

EDIT: And after looking over my recordings, it's apparently sixteen. In the past two days alone. Yeah...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Marisa Kirisame on March 14, 2013, 04:55:51 PM
No. I play on a laptop, because college, and it likes to ghost all the time and moving left is much harder than moving right. I plan on fixing this over the summer.

Been meaning to ask. I see it a lot on here but don't know what it means. what is "ghosting"?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Elysia on March 14, 2013, 05:23:08 PM
Been meaning to ask. I see it a lot on here but don't know what it means. what is "ghosting"?
Basically, you tap a directional button and the keyboard doesn't properly register you letting go of the button, which results in the game thinking you're holding down that direction and therefore dashing there, when you only meant to move a little bit that way.

It's happened to me a few times when I play web games (which is probably the main reason why I stopped playing Bullet Heaven), but not on Touhou, thank Mikoto. I don't know how people manage to play Touhou with ghosting keyboards, I know if that happened on mine I'd get a new keyboard ASAP.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Marisa Kirisame on March 14, 2013, 05:31:10 PM
Basically, you tap a directional button and the keyboard doesn't properly register you letting go of the button, which results in the game thinking you're holding down that direction and therefore dashing there, when you only meant to move a little bit that way.

It's happened to me a few times when I play web games (which is probably the main reason why I stopped playing Bullet Heaven), but not on Touhou, thank Mikoto. I don't know how people manage to play Touhou with ghosting keyboards, I know if that happened on mine I'd get a new keyboard ASAP.

I get a worse problem every so often (though I now know what you're talking about and it really is annoying.) I get a severe ghost. Meaning it thinks I am still holding down the key constantly. Sometimes it is fixable with the directional number pad. but it ruins runs so badly.

In other news my laptop gives me a sort of trade off. I lose my down-right diagonal direction but I get lag in the later games in return. it's weird.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Marisa Kirisame on March 14, 2013, 06:22:55 PM
Gah Really!? Game over at stage 2 on TD Lunatic? the hell Kyouko? Then I continue and easily cap Miyako's opening spell. Dafuq....
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: I have no name on March 14, 2013, 06:53:04 PM
Bullet Heaven
Play this with the mouse.  Honestly if I could play Touhou with the mouse I probably would, it gives more free form control that's more precise in my experiences.  S-ranking that 4th bonus level took me a bit even with the available mistakes   :3
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Mino ☆ on March 15, 2013, 12:22:33 AM
Failed an EoSD LNB run as Remilia exploded on Scarlet Gensokyo.

.....
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Marisa Kirisame on March 15, 2013, 12:41:42 AM
Failed an EoSD LNB run as Remilia exploded on Scarlet Gensokyo.

.....

I know that pain. Happened to me when fighting Flandre with Amulet Reimu.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Mino ☆ on March 15, 2013, 12:43:39 AM
I know that pain. Happened to me when fighting Flandre with Amulet Reimu.

Funnily enough, it would have been my first Scarlet Gensokyo capture! I'll get my revenge someday!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Marisa Kirisame on March 15, 2013, 12:51:19 AM
Funnily enough, it would have been my first Scarlet Gensokyo capture! I'll get my revenge someday!

That's one of us. I get slaughtered by both "Scarlet" spells on Hard and Lunatic. =D
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Makedounia on March 15, 2013, 01:48:19 AM
Another failed Mokou attempt... I think I'm going to take a break from touhou for a couple of days. I've been playing really badly lately.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Jmyster on March 15, 2013, 02:51:36 AM
I rage for my friend. So close, so tantalizing close, but still defeated by Yuyuko right before Resurrection Butterfly. He's been trying to 1cc for months, and the closer he gets the more agonizing the loss.

He can do it, but he just needs a little luck. Still too inconsistent dealing with Youmu's cards. I've offered to send more replays, but he wants to do it on his own terms, and I can respect that.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Marisa Kirisame on March 15, 2013, 02:55:37 AM
Still too inconsistent dealing with Youmu's cards.

I know that pain. especially with her non-spells.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: cactu on March 16, 2013, 07:05:57 PM
I had a L1MNB run going on up until EoSD stage 6, where I died four times.
Why am I so goddamn bad at that stage when it matters?  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on March 16, 2013, 08:11:59 PM
Play the stage 2000~2500 times like I did. You'll get -slightly- better at it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zork787 on March 18, 2013, 02:57:52 PM
I swear to god the hitboxes on Kanako's danmaku are broken or programmed to make SURE that you get walled, just to piss you off, Even Byakuren with Shou with their curvy lazers AREN'T as bad as Kanako

(╯?□?)╯︵ ┻━┻
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Reiko on March 18, 2013, 05:22:29 PM
Holy sh*t, Lunatic Eiki really is a nightmare.
Well, at least I can get to stage 9 with two extra lives, it's a start.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Jmyster on March 19, 2013, 03:56:00 AM
He...he made it to Resurrection Butterfly...and then...argh, win already will you!? >:(

The saga continues. Soon, soon my friend will win, and then move on to other Touhou games, but not this day. I must twiddle my thumbs and wait for the rage of his first run of SA
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Cream Soda on March 20, 2013, 09:12:26 PM
Am I a bad player for finding Nue and her stage really troublesome? -_- I feel like extra bosses are supposed to be easy for 'good' players? Specifically, her UFO attacks are really evil.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Nindella on March 20, 2013, 10:15:17 PM
Am I a bad player for finding Nue and her stage really troublesome? -_- I feel like extra bosses are supposed to be easy for 'good' players? Specifically, her UFO attacks are really evil.

Yes!  You are a bad player and should feel bad! Baddie!!

Nope, last I heard she's one of the hardest, roughest extra boss stage things~  :derp:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: I have no name on March 20, 2013, 10:18:05 PM
Nue's stage is a pain, but her fight has a lot of free attacks and the UFO cards can be learned with strats.

Extras are somewhere between normal and hard to clear so if you can clear normal in that game consistently, playing the extra a few times means you should be able to do it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Cream Soda on March 21, 2013, 01:26:35 AM
I do normal 1ccs consistently. :) I've barely managed a few hard 1ccs before but usually not. I guess I will keep working at it. ^_^ Also, you're right: a lot her attacks are kind of easy! But then there are the really brutal ones.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: cactu on March 21, 2013, 11:46:35 PM
It happened again. 1 Miss run going all the way up until Scarlet Meister, where I died twice, and then I died on Gensokyo which I usually capture... Fuck me.
The deaths were completely avoidable too, goddamnit. Oh, you're wondering about that one death before Remilia? It was on Sakuya's first nonspell of all things.  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Yatakarasu on March 22, 2013, 05:13:07 PM
KANAKO!!!! (http://i.imgur.com/QEmLHja.png) >:(
The dumb part about that was I lost a life to the very last fairy. So I possibly could have cleared this.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Oh on March 23, 2013, 12:50:34 AM
EoSD, EoSD, I just can't seem to get better at it.
I've been trying to improve my L6MNB from November of last year but I can never do it.
Did a L7MNB today. That's my 5th L7MNB.
Always hoping for a 4MNB, but I usually get to stage 6 with 3-4 misses.

But on the bright side, I pulled a Clio and dodged a wall from vampire illusion.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: chum on March 23, 2013, 05:22:43 AM
Got to Yumemi with 4 lives as Chiyuri. Game over like 5 minutes later.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on March 23, 2013, 01:20:55 PM
Got to Yumemi with 4 lives as Chiyuri. Game over like 5 minutes later.
Got to Stage 7 Kotohime with 4 lives as Chiyuri. Lost 4 lives (the first two to really long matches) and ragequit.

How did you do that.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on March 23, 2013, 02:03:03 PM
Got to Stage 7 Kotohime with 4 lives as Chiyuri. Lost 4 lives (the first two to really long matches) and ragequit.

How did you do that.

by survivng 3+ minutes. kotohime takes an eternity to defeat and until now, I only managed to do it once in the first round. I game over'd to chiyuri right afterwards though :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Oh on March 24, 2013, 02:20:33 AM
EoSD LNBNF attempt gamed over to Gensokyo...
Remilia so mean.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: I have no name on March 24, 2013, 04:05:48 AM
...I just lost a perfect Youmu to Eternal Truth.
How do you even die to that card anyway...my Hell God Sword and Asura Sword were both very crazy captures...
Even got Components of Konpaku which I'm notoriously bad at.

Dangit, my TD score.dat reset again, can anyone send me theirs, preferably with a Reimu and Youmu lunatic clear?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Reiko on March 24, 2013, 06:46:53 PM
PoFV Lunatic, stage 9, third round.
Lost with Eiki on her last hit.
The rage-inducing part ? Score : 69,9XX,XXX

How long are you supposed to survive on a third or fourth round again ? 2:30-3:00 ? (playing as Marisa, if this matters)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on March 24, 2013, 06:51:56 PM
2nd and 3rd round last pretty much exactly 3 minutes. 4th round lasts 2:20-2:30

eiki loses her last hit at the 1:40 mark in round 2 and 3, so depending on how long she lost it, you might have still had yways to go. don't give up, I am sure you can defeat her soon!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Oh on March 24, 2013, 08:30:11 PM
LNBNF EoSD game over to Meister when it has no health left.
I seem to do better at stage 4 with no focus, but do worse at stage 3, and very bad at stage 6.

LNBNT TD died 4 times before stage 5, game over royal clan.
How did I fail a damage rush card? By dying to Miko's second spell due to computer lagging and ending up with 3 power.
The power system in th12 and th13 really irks me. I hope I get the runs soon.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: cactu on March 24, 2013, 10:21:45 PM
I'm sure you'll get the clears soon, Denpa.
I wish I would stop dying on literally everything on EoSD, things just haven't been going my way for the past few days.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Elysia on March 25, 2013, 01:12:48 AM
That feeling when I've been attempting the same thing for almost literally two thousand tries and upwards of a month and still haven't done it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Bang Jan on March 25, 2013, 03:39:27 PM
What are you trying to do Malky?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Wriggle on March 25, 2013, 03:49:41 PM
What are you trying to do Malky?

Perfect Mikoto? :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on March 25, 2013, 03:52:39 PM
Perfect Mikoto? :V

wasn't it LNB of mrine benefit?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zil on March 25, 2013, 05:48:31 PM
No! I reached 82 million with Yumemi, but it turns out I wasn't recording, and since the scoreboard is full of 90m+ Chiyuri scores, I have absolutely no record of it. Not even a screenshot.

And since when does Anex86 even work without me recording anyway? Fucking death trap. (Actually it's a good thing.)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Elysia on March 25, 2013, 06:01:43 PM
I wasn't going to spoil it before I actually pulled it off, but...

120 FPS Seamless Ceiling of Kinkaku-ji.

Before you call me insane (too late?), I have an entire replays folder full of nothing but replays of me making it to the last shot and failing.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: I have no name on March 26, 2013, 01:38:50 AM
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Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Mesarthim on March 26, 2013, 08:26:58 AM
Apparently Shikieiki "really" wanted to make sure you get your lecture.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: chum on March 27, 2013, 04:47:30 PM
PoDD is such a harsh game... when you use Chiyuri. If I make it to Yumemi with more than one life (has happened plenty of times now) It's still never enough -  last attempt I even tried pacifying and it STILL wasn't enough. Just unbelievable. I wish she could've just died those times I got her down to her last hit. I'm just gonna have to keep on hoping for a miracle because I am nowhere near skilled enough to pull through on my own.

The game is just depressing, Jaimers got his clear but I just keep on failing, and failing, and failing, over and over. I've probably put in at least 25 hours on Chiyuri, possibly much more. No clears in other touhou games can even come close to this nightmare...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Elysia on March 28, 2013, 06:35:37 AM
Remember when I said I had an entire replays folder full of nothing but 120 FPS Seamless Ceiling of Kinkaku-ji attempts that failed at the last shot?

I just made another one.

Every replay in it is dated within the last three days.

Yeah.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on March 28, 2013, 04:53:14 PM
the more I play PoDD the worse I become at it. this isn't how practicing is suppsoed to work. how, what to do? play and become worse, or not play and become worse.

this is fucking weird.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Bang Jan on March 28, 2013, 04:58:07 PM
Don't play PODD at all like I do Sakurei and you'll be fine...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Oh on March 29, 2013, 12:17:12 AM
Argh why am I so bad at EoSD 6?
I had 3 lives going into it, and I gamed over to Meister again.
I died to Sakuya non (wall), Remilia's opener, and Needle Mountain.
No focus is too much for me, I keep crashing into bullets.

This is sort of like my NB attempts from a while ago. Always getting to stage 6 with decent lives and failing horribly.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Reiko on March 29, 2013, 06:05:49 PM
Average time against Medicine/Komachi in Match Mode : 2:20
Average time against Medicine/Komachi in Story Mode : 1:25

Riiiight...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zil on March 29, 2013, 06:28:29 PM
NOOOOOOO D: (http://i.imgur.com/26q4nmS.png)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on March 29, 2013, 07:20:00 PM
If that was me I'd have no computer left to post that with
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on March 29, 2013, 07:27:11 PM
Average time against Medicine/Komachi in Match Mode : 2:20
Average time against Medicine/Komachi in Story Mode : 1:25

Riiiight...

bullets in the later stages of the game are faster than in match mode! keep that in mind. eiki's bullets in match mode are about as fast as in the 4th round. for komach iit shoould be 3rd round.

NOOOOOOO D: (http://i.imgur.com/26q4nmS.png)

I have to second BT on that.

pls stop doing 100m runs, you are making me feel inferior :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Seppo Hovi on March 29, 2013, 10:41:29 PM
NOOOOOOO D: (http://i.imgur.com/26q4nmS.png)
Is that over 111M I see there.

I'd like to hear what Emulator you use (my Anex is awful and T-98 Next seems to lag a lot), and it'd be nice if you could share an assumption of how many months hours you've put into the game. If you feel like sharing, that is.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zil on March 30, 2013, 05:21:10 PM
Anex86. It can be annoying but it's the only option for me. T-98 is too laggy and Neko Project is even worse.

I don't really know how to estimate how many hours I've spent. I'd guess something like 1,000. That would be kinda like three hours a day, every day for a year. Just a guess though. I tend to binge on the game and then take breaks from it, but it might average out to something close to that.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on March 30, 2013, 06:22:47 PM
That sounds like an extreme guess. 3 hours a day is a lot.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Oh on March 31, 2013, 05:33:40 PM
Had fucking 5 extra lives for stage 6 and still lost. Remilia is a piece of shit walling me every possible way.
Time to give up, I guess. Maybe come back to it later when I don't suck so much.

EoSD LNBNF... I really want it :(
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on March 31, 2013, 06:05:12 PM
I just tried Stage 6 NF and... yeah, that's not easy! I got hit by the bubble phase of the last NS at low rank, of all things.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Oh on March 31, 2013, 08:44:30 PM
Some more failed EoSD LNBNF runs (done today):
3 lives in - meister game over
4 lives in - meister game over
3 lives in - meister game over, captured books in this run too

I die timing out Sakuya NS, clip on YDL, get walled by Illusion.

Oh god why is stage 6 so much harder than 1-5 combined...

edit: Game over to Gensokyo! I was close to capturing it too! Had 4 lives going into stage 6.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: I have no name on April 02, 2013, 04:07:22 PM
PoFV with Youmu is completely impossible.
Took Shikieiki to 2:48 in the 3rd round, probably my longest survival against her ever.
She had been on her last hit for over a minute.

Now, I know she lasts a long time, at least 30 seconds after her last hit, but still, that's stupid since she almost always dies by the 2:30 mark for me.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on April 02, 2013, 05:48:17 PM
what are you even talking about? in the second and third round, eiki gets down to her last hit around 1:40 and dies around 3:00-3:15

you can't expect her to die early when you are playing youmu. she's almost as terrible at hitting the AI as komachi and mystia are. for eiki to die regularly at 2:30, who the fuck did you play with? aya and medicine?

I am assuming it was the 4th round she died that early. (which is normal, for the FOURTH round) before complaining about the game, inform yourself about the details better first. if you can't survive for 3 minutes, make sure you have a life more than this time.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: I have no name on April 02, 2013, 05:58:33 PM
what are you even talking about? in the second and third round, eiki gets down to her last hit around 1:40 and dies around 3:00-3:15

you can't expect her to die early when you are playing youmu. she's almost as terrible at hitting the AI as komachi and mystia are. for eiki to die regularly at 2:30, who the fuck did you play with? aya and medicine?

I am assuming it was the 4th round she died that early. (which is normal, for the FOURTH round) before complaining about the game, inform yourself about the details better first. if you can't survive for 3 minutes, make sure you have a life more than this time.
First, I dislike the tone of this post.
Second, Shikieiki died before the 2:30 mark, 3rd round, when I 1cced with Komachi.
Third, Aya and Medicine kill her faster than that.  Reimu can get a sub-2 kill.
Fourth, I know what I'm talking about, I'm using my previous clears as my knowledge that I'm basing it off of, and this is a RAGE thread, I'm doing what I'm supposed to do here.
Fifth, inform yourself more about the game before telling someone else to inform themself about the game.
Sixth, I know Youmu has no walling potential-but neither does Komachi, who I already said I got a 3rd round kill with before the 2:30 mark.
Seventh, I would love to have another life going in seeing as I didn't reach the 70 million extend.
Eighth, I can double check but I'm pretty sure my Mystia 1cc also ended around the 2:30 mark 3rd round.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zil on April 02, 2013, 06:13:06 PM
Pretty sure it goes:

3:30 - 2nd round
3:00 - 3rd round
2:30 - everything thereafter.

Of course, anyone can luck out and win early. It's just very unlikely with most characters. Youmu's actually not that bad at walling. The ghost turds can trap the AI if they all spawn around or on top of it, though it's not necessarily easy to create lots of them at once.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on April 02, 2013, 06:16:46 PM
PoFV with Youmu is completely impossible.

By that logic, I suppose clearing Dodonpachi Daioujou Black Label and UFO without bombs/ufo summoning is impossible too.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Seppo Hovi on April 02, 2013, 06:18:39 PM
Ah, the good old impossible, still gets me every time.

I'm using my previous clears as my knowledge that I'm basing it off of, and this is a RAGE thread, I'm doing what I'm supposed to do here.
Your previous Youmu clears? Why on earth are you doing a vanilla clear of it more than once, in the case you don't like the game (and you sure don't seem to)
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Sixth, I know Youmu has no walling potential-but neither does Komachi, who I already said I got a 3rd round kill with before the 2:30 mark.
Yes, with good RNG, the bosses can die earlier. Good luck hardly is the norm, though.
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Seventh, I would love to have another life going in seeing as I didn't reach the 70 million extend.
Play it more, then. Learn chains, cancels and proper charge use. Die once less within the earlier stages. I think this is what Sakurei was after.

Edit: Ah, Zil cut in before me and I decided to post anyway and care not of what the red message about reading other posts said. I guess I still had at least one point to make, even though I was seemingly mainly beating a dead horse.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: chum on April 02, 2013, 06:21:14 PM
Shikieiki died before the 2:30 mark, 3rd round, when I 1cced with Komachi.

Got a replay?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: I have no name on April 02, 2013, 06:25:03 PM
By that logic, I suppose clearing Dodonpachi Daioujou Black Label and UFO without bombs/ufo summoning is impossible too.
Ah, the good old impossible, still gets me every time.
I see no problem with hyperbole.
Your previous Youmu clears? Why on earth are you doing a vanilla clear of it more than once, in the case you don't like the game (and you sure don't seem to)
Yes, with good RNG, the bosses can die earlier. Good luck hardly is the norm, though.
Play it more, then. Learn chains, cancels and proper charge use. Die once less within the earlier stages. I think this is what Sakurei was after.
Previous clears with other shots types, who are apparently worse at walling.  If all I've had so far is good luck, isn't that what I'd expect is the norm?  and I thought I've been clear that just sitting down and playing PoFV IS fun for me-surely you've had moments of frustration though.  Oh, abnd I was going to ask how to use Youmu better, but if all I'm going to get in condescending attitude from people what's the point.

Got a replay?
Yep.  I'm pretty sure that's when it happened but I'll double check of course.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: chum on April 02, 2013, 06:27:00 PM
If it did, then you got very, very good luck. In my experience, most characters have to survive for more than 3 minutes on the 3rd round, most of the time. If you get to the 3:30 mark, then you were indeed unlucky.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on April 02, 2013, 06:28:19 PM
I see no problem with hyperbole.

I do. Please find another way to express your hatred, inferiority and frustration, thank you very much.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: I have no name on April 02, 2013, 06:39:14 PM
inferiority
Completely uncalled for.  Additionally, why should I have to conform to your opinions?  Oh right, because your inclusion of the word "inferiority" implies you believe yourself superior to me so I should follow your every whim.

Overall, I would like to point out that I am allowed to get frustrated, complain about things, and use the words I choose to use, and even though I remembered wrong, you could have politely informed me instead of phrase it like "lol ur stupid and dumb and i is teh bestestest player evar" (yes, more hyperbole, don't care.)

If it did, then you got very, very good luck. In my experience, most characters have to survive for more than 3 minutes on the 3rd round, most of the time. If you get to the 3:30 mark, then you were indeed unlucky.
Ok, my Komachi run was 4th round at 2:21, the first round ended in about a minute which is why I forgot about it.
Mystia was 4th round, 2:20.

hatred
Now you're making things up.


/rage at community, chum and Zil are cool, etc. etc.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Seppo Hovi on April 02, 2013, 06:42:52 PM
I see no problem with hyperbole.
I dislike raging in general (not that it's a sin I'm free of), so you should probably just ignore what I think about it and I should stop reading this thread. It would be the most reasonable thing to happen, but as people usually are, I tend to be unreasonable. And in this case, I like knowing what people are up to.

Overexaggeration in general isn't that horrible. However, what struck me was that it looked like you blamed the game for your own mistakes. And also being overly aggressive towards Sakurei after that. (but maybe you just were returning a favor, so I won't go further into that)

Quote
Previous clears with other shots types, who are apparently worse at walling.  If all I've had so far is good luck, isn't that what I'd expect is the norm?
As a little bit of advice, never assume of others for a new shot, especially in games like PoFV, where many things, including your own playstyle change.

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surely you've had moments of frustration though.
I don't see how this has anything to do with this, but yes.

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Oh, abnd I was going to ask how to use Youmu better, but if all I'm going to get in condescending attitude from people what's the point.
You could try the spell card help thread! And I think you might be misunderstanding, people are just correcting a mistake you made in your post, that's all.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: I have no name on April 02, 2013, 06:45:15 PM
You could try the spell card help thread! And I think you might be misunderstanding, people are just correcting a mistake you made in your post, that's all.
I might be misunderstanding, but I know the tone I read.  and Zengeku's post leaves very little for intrepretation IMO.  He's welcome to correct me however.

and I think I'll try a few more times before asking.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on April 02, 2013, 07:18:06 PM
I apologize. The use of the word inferiority was accidental. The word incompetence is more appropriate for what I was trying to say to you. Again, this may also be considered quite condescending but it is not meant as such. I do believe that you are incompetent but that is not something that you should consider an insult, that's just a fact. You are lacking competences to play properly as is obvious from your posts here in this thread. I myself lack the competences necessary to do some of the things I would like to do. I do not respond to this by blaming the game but by blaming myself and trying to find out what I can do to improve those short-comings and by practicing them, hoping to eventually overcome them.

Your post however just reeked of a sore loser who has tried Youmu once or twice and haven't succeeded with her, not that this is something i assume - it's only guesswork, and thus decide that you want to blame the game for your own lack of competence at playing the shot.

For the future, please try to be a bit more constructive with your raging. Please be more descriptive about what went wrong with your run and what caused you to fail it and try to ask questions if there's something you are unsure of. It really beats just saying that things are impossible.

But you are right, this is the rage thread. Irrational things get's posted here, i know that very well. Just try to rage a little better in the future okay? And if not, please try to bear with some of us having to post our own raging about your raging in the same thread.



Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: I have no name on April 02, 2013, 09:26:05 PM
Well when 2 rounds get cut short because a fairy came up from the bottom of the screen and killed you, both on critical rounds, it is pretty much the games fault  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: cactu on April 03, 2013, 06:00:19 PM
I got to stage 6 with 7 extra lives as Reimu A, then midboss Sakuya took a dump on me, lost two lives like an idiot, and Meister did surprise buttsecks to me with a superfast random bullet to my face.
Fuck.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Reiko on April 03, 2013, 09:37:24 PM
Lost five rounds against Eiki.
Why does Lily White have to pop on the last round every time ?
Oh well, practice mode it is, anyway. At least I'm getting consistent to everything before stage 9.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zil on April 04, 2013, 12:58:53 AM
Speaking of Anex's shittiness, tt's been a while since I've had the luxury of playing in "red mode." Eye melting shades of hell, complete with frame skipping and input lag.

(http://i.imgur.com/n561ebz.jpg)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Chilled Muffins on April 04, 2013, 06:19:37 AM
Can't even proceed much farther than the first stage of any of the games, and that's on Easy mode.
I am hilariously bad at this.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Kaze_Senshi on April 04, 2013, 01:55:42 PM
Trying to beat SA for the first time, go until Orin with 6 lifes on stock, lose 4 in the boss battle and the rest on the stage 6. BLERRRAWGH!
Another day (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fm7ntyycGbU) I'll beat this game  :(

Can't even proceed much farther than the first stage of any of the games, and that's on Easy mode.
I am hilariously bad at this.
Try harder (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btPJPFnesV4)


And lets take it easy :O
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Chilled Muffins on April 04, 2013, 04:40:24 PM
Trying to beat SA for the first time, go until Orin with 6 lifes on stock, lose 4 in the boss battle and the rest on the stage 6. BLERRRAWGH!
Another day (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fm7ntyycGbU) I'll beat this game  :(
Try harder (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btPJPFnesV4)


And lets take it easy :O


I'm going to leave that on in the background and try.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Limian on April 05, 2013, 02:27:16 PM
died thrice on Needle Mountain, game over to Tokamak

I don't even

EDIT: lo and behold, I captured all stage 5 spells bar Cat Walk in the next practice run :fail:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Byaaakuren on April 06, 2013, 03:26:50 AM
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/72a256c2c1dcfb0662f8f3f956fd9ecf/tumblr_mktc7wzX5m1rydc1ro2_1280.jpg)
Will I ever beat Lunatic? Find out if I ever post a victory replay!
Here's a replay for the last run (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=27667)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: MTSranger on April 06, 2013, 06:25:19 AM
ALMOST captured Scarlet Gensokyo

(http://i.imgur.com/hn1dLmk.png)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Bang Jan on April 06, 2013, 12:26:21 PM
Hooray for spontaneously dying! (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=27671)
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Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: an unmatched sock on April 06, 2013, 03:19:58 PM
I finally figured out how to Immaterial and Missing Power!

*gets wrecked in early stages by Stardust Reverie*

Ok...finally figured out how to not die on that one...

*gets more wrecked by stupid combos from Double Pain*

FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

*upon trying again, gets to Yukari, loses last two lives to Parasol of All the Hacks*

I quit. Yukari's a cheater.

Seriously, I always miss one jump or get hit from behind and into that OP combo of Youmu's. I'm also not proficient with the actual melee combat part of it yet. And how exactly do you dodge that hag's parasol roll anyhow? My entire last life couldn't do any damage, and it was one of those "I'm going to hit you exactly when you get back up so you can't spellcard or anything" sort of deals.

Also, you people on Lunatic are crazy.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on April 07, 2013, 01:27:38 AM
I can't PoFV. whenever I get good early stages, I fuck up either marisa, yuka or reimu. or all of them and eiki too while I'm at it

also, what's the timers for stage 6-8? I had fights lasting more than 3 minutes with each of them and they never died. it's so ridiculous. marisa just didn't fucking die and I was like 3:10 into the fight. can't even no miss until eiki

it's my strongest game and I can't do shit in it /wrist
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zil on April 07, 2013, 01:35:14 AM
Should be 3:30 for Yuuka and Reimu, though Yuuka likes to die early. I was under the impression that Marisa is 3:00, so either you were really unlucky or it's actually 3:30 as well.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Reiko on April 07, 2013, 06:29:52 PM
"Oh hey, I've been playing Touhou for one year now. Surely I'm going to do some nice stuff today !"

> gets slaughtered by Komachi and Eiki
> gameover at stage 3 in IN
> gameover at stage 4 in PCB

Feels like I'm doing something wrong. I'm throwing dozens of hours of practice into these games, and I'm not getting anywhere (taking breaks doesn't help). I've kind of given up on PCB and IN, though ; still playing PoFV because it's fun, waiting to luck my way to the 1cc.
And I do wonder how people can get these no-bombs or 90fps runs, seriously.

Sorry for the ranting (again).
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Dark Kitsune on April 07, 2013, 06:45:11 PM
Decided to play PCB Phantasm for the first time in a while. Did really well, until after I beat myself. Then I got sloppy at avoiding bullets and ended up getting a game over after running into an enemy -.-
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Jmyster on April 07, 2013, 09:41:00 PM
Alright, two lives left with three bombs, Scarlet Gensokyo, I can--hmmm, that's not normal...

*hit*

Damn, okay, three bombs, I got *hit* ...invincibility wearing off at the worst possible millisecond. BLARGH!

1cc Hard clear will have to wait for another day.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Limian on April 07, 2013, 10:34:44 PM
game over to Subterranean Sun. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=27696)

look at all those painful deaths. Start of stage 4, start of stage 5, fucking Small Demon's Revival because I was hoping I could capture it, BoWaP flame in stage 6. I'm so fucking disappointed right now.

I only saved the replay because I perfected stage 3 in this one. It's a nice accomplishment, but sadly overshadowed by overall failure. The run wasn't even bad, just a few really really dumb slip-ups had to ruin it.

EDIT: if that run was bad, then this MoF run (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=27705) is even worse
5 lives, lost them all between Unremembered Crop and Source of Rains. I don't even know what to say.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Tsym on April 08, 2013, 06:13:04 AM
Almost nabbed a perfect SA stage 5, but I died to Needles of Yore because I fat fingered a dodge. I bet it'll take forever to get another run past Cat's Walk too...

But you know what, I'm done with this stage. I perfected Orin earlier, and I would try a lot harder at getting better at Needles of Yore and Cat's Walk, but I can't stand sitting in one place for all those long stretches where you do nothing/stream simple patterns. And timing out midboss Orin's first pattern is dumb. I'll be content with a "split perfect" for now. Moving on to something more fun!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: I have no name on April 09, 2013, 12:41:36 AM
Well, that makes 4 1DNB Patchy fights-surprisingly 1 with each shot type now.  Where were the deaths?
ReimuA: Mercury Poison
ReimuB: Emerald Meagalith (1 second left, today)
MarisaA: Green Storm or whatever the ultra dense from the left bullets
MarisaB: I don't remember but it was past Megalith.  Lava Cromlech maybe?

Getting this perfect is inevitable I just need to, you know, stop choking.  Doesn't help that the stage is boring, but at least I nabbed a second max rank books capture.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: ARF on April 09, 2013, 01:10:03 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/EpQM8MQ.jpg)
(?;ω;`)
I was streaming some DS any%ss attempts/practice the other day, apparently deleting the score.dat can do strange things to DS. Scene pictured is Yuugi's curvy laser scene (6-5).

-edit-
Stream: http://www.twitch.tv/arftoho
I pretty much never stream tho, mainly because I barely even played anything the last month or so
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: I have no name on April 09, 2013, 02:48:10 AM
I was streaming
Stream where
Want to see  :D
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: RNG on April 09, 2013, 04:45:37 AM
MarisaA: Green Storm or whatever the ultra dense from the left bullets
GJ on books capture!

That'd be Sylphae Horn High Level by the way. MariA doesn't get Green Storm.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: I have no name on April 09, 2013, 06:55:31 AM
Philosophy of a Hated Meme, why must you mix fun things with RNGWALL things with precision things.
3 3 death runs through the card tonight, with deaths to:
Imperishably CAVED x3 (legitimately hard section)
Guncannon x2 (derpy streaming)
Icicle Fall on crack x1 (this is legitimately tricky)
QFT Charisma Break x1 (bad RNG)
Lily FOE x1 (bad position after Native God)
you are already dead x1 (derp)
between them.  I can capture this but it's akin to perfecting a final boss, albeit a mostly easy one without a stage before it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Oh on April 09, 2013, 04:07:47 PM
I died to Orin's second non during a LNB and gamed over to third non.
I think I would have cleared if I made it past Orin. Even though stages 3 and 4 are kicking my ass I believe a no bombs is not out of reach for me.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Tsym on April 10, 2013, 06:09:07 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/xMf8kt1.jpg)

Almost got a perfect Okuu... Except for a death to this wave in Peta Flare. Yup my only option was to dash all the way to the left, which I'm almost certain isn't possible without high risk of ramming into a blue bullet. I hate this card so much.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: an unmatched sock on April 12, 2013, 02:54:55 AM
Twice today.

I recently got decent enough at Scarlet Weather Rhapsody and Hisoutensoku to beat them. Today, I got up to Tenshi's final card with half health and one extra life. I did good and proceeded quickly...until the rapid fire super death lasers happened. I lost what would have been my first SWR 1cc (as Alice, oddly enough)

Then, I decided to test Hisoutensoku to make sure  profiles and such worked (since they didn't right away in SWR) worked. I beat Sanae's story up to Suwako without dying too much, surprisingly since this was my second time playing this one. I got to her last spell, and suddenly sneak attack pillar ends it. While the ending played, my face was consistently that of Patrick's "holy crap" face  from the Spongebob movie (you all know the face) throughout the entire ending.

Tenshi is such a cheater...Suwako isn't much better. Youmu is also a cheater, but she isn't a final boss. She still makes me mad, though...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Yatakarasu on April 12, 2013, 03:00:52 AM
Two failed attempts at clearing SA normal with Marisa A today. Once to Okuu's opener (I derped hard), second time to the final card. Just about to throw my computer out the window right now.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Elysia on April 13, 2013, 11:52:12 PM
<Malkykitty> i just attempted a no-bombs run of eosd extra
<Malkykitty> result being, i succeeded in that...but because i just barely died to flandre's last attack
<Malkykitty> and only that
<Malkykitty> meaning that i could have perfected flandre scarlet
<Malkykitty> and now that's hanging over me
<Malkykitty> it's just...isn't that fundamentally backward?
<Malkykitty> like, i get a great achievement, the reaction should be "yay!" not "why couldn't i have done MORE"
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Wriggle on April 14, 2013, 12:08:23 AM
<Malkykitty> i just attempted a no-bombs run of eosd extra
<Malkykitty> result being, i succeeded in that...but because i just barely died to flandre's last attack
<Malkykitty> and only that
<Malkykitty> meaning that i could have perfected flandre scarlet
<Malkykitty> and now that's hanging over me
<Malkykitty> it's just...isn't that fundamentally backward?
<Malkykitty> like, i get a great achievement, the reaction should be "yay!" not "why couldn't i have done MORE"

That's another reason I've tried to quit Touhou several times, but I inevitably get to play it again a week later or so. The only way around was to just keep playing Extras which I find fun, with no challenge in mind. Although the NBNF SA extra I did days ago went pretty good. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: andrewshen123 on April 14, 2013, 12:39:26 AM
Well, that's something. No 1cc for me this time, it seems.

(http://i.imgur.com/IJ8J9yY.png)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Elysia on April 14, 2013, 12:46:32 AM
*captures Mikoto's first seven attacks consecutively*

*dies to Red Planet*

(http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad256/Malkyrian/deskflip-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: I have no name on April 14, 2013, 01:35:03 AM
<Malkykitty> i just attempted a no-bombs run of eosd extra
<Malkykitty> result being, i succeeded in that...but because i just barely died to flandre's last attack
<Malkykitty> and only that
<Malkykitty> meaning that i could have perfected flandre scarlet
<Malkykitty> and now that's hanging over me
<Malkykitty> it's just...isn't that fundamentally backward?
<Malkykitty> like, i get a great achievement, the reaction should be "yay!" not "why couldn't i have done MORE"
Heh, sounds like what I did a while back.  Only I got walled off on Kagome Kagome and perfected the rest including 2nd ever survival capture and 1st ever QED capture.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: vctrz on April 14, 2013, 03:30:02 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/O5s931U.png)
 :ohdear:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Star King on April 14, 2013, 04:28:05 AM
<Malkykitty> i just attempted a no-bombs run of eosd extra
<Malkykitty> result being, i succeeded in that...but because i just barely died to flandre's last attack
<Malkykitty> and only that
<Malkykitty> meaning that i could have perfected flandre scarlet
<Malkykitty> and now that's hanging over me
<Malkykitty> it's just...isn't that fundamentally backward?
<Malkykitty> like, i get a great achievement, the reaction should be "yay!" not "why couldn't i have done MORE"

I think that's a pretty normal reaction lol. That's what happened to me with PCB Extra. I did a no-bomb run and it ended up being something like 0M2BB, so I felt compelled to perfect the stage after that. You think to yourself "I was so close, so it's obviously within my capabilities!"

Anyways, I spent all day doing MoF Extra scoreruns, and unlike the previous 3 days, I was unable to get an improved score. I had several runs get to Suwako with good faith, but I always messed up somewhere (except one run which I finished, but it was not a great run and ended up being 969m). A couple deaths to Froggy Braves the Elements, one to Suwa Wars, one to Moriya's Iron Ring, one to Red Frog... I usually NEVER die at Red Frog, but I was trying a new method to get more faith from the card and of course I die for it. But the cream of the crop is the run where I rammed into Suwako after PoC'ing. Yeah. Don't even ask me how I managed that. Maybe I should just be satisfied with already having the best score on MotK...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Mino ☆ on April 14, 2013, 06:22:12 AM
>Gives EoSD MarisaB LNB another chance.
>Makes it to Sakuya with 7 lives (only death was to Koakuma... somehow)
>Fails the last nonspell
>Dies to Killing Doll Twice (One of these deaths occurred as the spellcard was dispelling, mind you)
>Gets to Remilia with only 4 lives.
>Dies to Young Demon Lord
>Somehow manages to fail Hell's Thousand Needle Mountain
>Fails Vampire Illusion by hitting a bubble after escaping a wall through the side of the screen
>Arrives on her last nonspell, only 1 spare life left.
>Somehow cilps a red needle (rice bullet?) on the first wave.
>Game Overs on Scarlet Meister

Another golden opportunity lost. How much more am I going to have to work at this? I should have totally had this by now...

Not giving up, though.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: cactu on April 14, 2013, 07:08:01 AM
I know that feeling Minogame, haha. You'll get it soon!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Tsym on April 14, 2013, 08:05:32 AM
Uh huh... So on a run through of SA Extra, I managed to perfect the stage, then die on Danmaku Paranoia, perfect everything else, then game over on Subterranean Rose. Yes. Game. Over. On Koishi's final card. And then I didn't even save the replay. What am I doing? Clearly Koishi's screwing with me.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: RNG on April 15, 2013, 05:31:59 AM
Another golden opportunity lost. How much more am I going to have to work at this? I should have totally had this by now...

Not giving up, though.

EoSD LNB attempts that capture books and still don't clear are one of the few things in video games that can still frustrate me.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Ikari on April 16, 2013, 01:25:58 PM
Uh huh... So on a run through of SA Extra, I managed to perfect the stage, then die on Danmaku Paranoia, perfect everything else, then game over on Subterranean Rose. Yes. Game. Over. On Koishi's final card. And then I didn't even save the replay. What am I doing? Clearly Koishi's screwing with me.

I swear this spell ranges from "Endless onslauhgt of deaths" to "Okay this is the easiest thing ever" every time it changes phases.

On a side note, I tried to 1CC SA on easy, to get a bit better. Managed to reach Okuu with 6 lives or so.

Oh hi Nuclear Tokamak, here, take all my lives, they're AAAAAAALL yours.

Seriously that spell can just go die in a fire. As if dodging wasn't enough, Okuu has to just sliiightly move away from me every time I try to shoot her.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Yatakarasu on April 16, 2013, 05:13:57 PM
I..I died to Mysterious Snake Show....WHAT?!  :getdown:
Also Nue, I swear if your first card clips me one more time I'm gonna chuck my laptop out the window.

So I tried some SA extra...So out of practice. I get through the stage pretty well, have to bomb a bit but I don't die, then I get to Koishi herself and....faceplant right into all the bullets. Her opener still scares the shit outta me. I used to be able to do it but I've just lost it. ID and Superego are still a big issue for me. Think I'll just work on hard for SA for a while.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: I have no name on April 17, 2013, 02:17:08 PM
and now I can't even get an MoF lunatic no bomb run going >_>
I've died to Hina's first spell in 2 runs, double Momiji death once, double PWG death once, immediately faceplant midboss Nitori once...I just can't dodge anything any more.
I was so close to pulling it off too, why did I essentially forget how to play now of all times  :(
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Validon98 on April 18, 2013, 01:17:17 AM
Today is not the day for Extra runs.
Flandre kills me at Starbow Break. Suwako and Marisa's bigger hitbox don't mix at all. Elfin Mint just confuses me. And Suika (CtC) slowly wore me down until I died at her survival card because I had no idea the things surrounding her kill you. I haven't been trying Extra stuff in a while, but damn it, it feels terrible getting absolutely thrashed like that.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: chum on April 18, 2013, 06:15:57 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/dnsMz8z.png)

Not a good run by any means, but Sanae stopped dead in her tracks even though I held down the up key. Game over.

Now I'm terrified of playing again. Need a better input device...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: an unmatched sock on April 18, 2013, 10:56:59 PM
Tried UFO again. I managed to keep decent life count, at the expense of bombs. No real problems until Stage 4. Nue got me once, and Murasa drained me of a good 4 lives. With two and a fraction left, I got through most of Stage 5 ok. Lost two lives due to Nazrin tricking me with fake curvy lasers, and the last one to the bullet spam immediately afterwards.

Why is UFO so dang hard ;_;   I just wanna get the Extra stage...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Wriggle on April 19, 2013, 05:40:58 PM
- Attempted a Perfect SA Extra with scoring maneuvers after some time, but with MarisaB.

- Was doing very well, but upon reaching Genectics I had one of my periodic stomach aches.

- I leave, go elsewhere to relax, and then come back.

- I press Q (the key I remaped Z into), and the stage closes, because I apparently DISABLED AutoHotkey (with Ctrl+Shift+S) and didn't notice because of the stomach ache).

Why.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on April 20, 2013, 12:12:39 AM
okay. I played PoDD for 2 months, all in all 50 hours, I'd estimate. pretty much all of them (minus some in the beginning) were done with chiyuri, bascially. since I had little success in clearing, I thought I'd try another character.

can't even fucking clear the game with mima. now, I believe mima isn't all that high level (afaik, somewhere high mid-tier) and her boss attacks are very dangerous due to tons of pellets, but you'd still thing after playing with chiyuri for 2 months, I could at least clear the game with a character that's not "low" tier.

played a game for 2 months and didn't improve one bit; watch me clear in 2018 when it's a basic 1cc /wrist

I'm probably overreacting, considering I gave mima all of 1 try ever before this and I only played one credit, too. but it still agitates me for some reason
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Byaaakuren on April 20, 2013, 04:04:15 AM
Resurrection Butterfly Lunatic

That is all
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Mino ☆ on April 20, 2013, 06:27:49 PM
Lost a PCB Lunatic NMNB on Resurrection Butterfly! (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=27894)

Borders were broken of course. But still!

Resurrection Butterfly Lunatic

That is all

^
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on April 20, 2013, 07:34:11 PM
How many border breaks are we talking about here? It's impressive regardless but I want to know how close you got to a NMNBNBB
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on April 21, 2013, 04:06:29 PM
<Zengeku> fuuuuuuuuu
<Zengeku> disappoint
<Zengeku> fucking useless
<Zengeku> 6MNB MoF
<Zengeku> Momiji capture and Hydro Camouflage capture and NMNB Aya included
<Zengeku> 2 deaths to streaming shit in Stage 4, one to Moses miracle, one to the big fairy that shows up in the middle of Stage 6, one to VoWG and one to Kanako's opener
<Zengeku> all of it fucking pathetic

- http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=27910
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Oh on April 21, 2013, 09:32:01 PM
I tried playing UFO and gamed over to Shou.
I swear the UFOs are evil they change colors every time when I try to get them.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Jmyster on April 21, 2013, 11:29:48 PM
I swear the UFOs are evil they change colors every time when I try to get them.

It's a well-documented conspiracy: The UFOs must change color at the last possible second before collection, especially when you need them. I've been there far too many times.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on April 22, 2013, 05:56:42 AM
I just imagine Nue fiddling around with a remote control every time that happens.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on April 23, 2013, 11:45:45 AM
A horrible UFO Stage 3 run is defined as a run in which I fail to NMNB it. Having 10 of these in a row is fucking soul-crushing and pathetic. Please kill me.

I need this thing fucking consistent or it's all worthless. I can't afford more than 1 death before Stage 5 at worst. My god I'm horrible.  :(
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on April 23, 2013, 11:48:55 AM
Try again tomorrow. Sometimes it works like that.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on April 23, 2013, 12:28:39 PM
Yeah, you are probably right about that. I just tried a PCB LNB run and I had somehow managed to die 6 times before midboss Youmu. And considering that nothing difficult happens before Youmu something could indicate that my brain's just being a retarded mess right now. More than usual I mean.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Oh on April 23, 2013, 07:22:40 PM
Making progress on UFO Lunatic
Got to Byakuren 1/2
Gamed over to LFS red phase.
I captured DR and Superhuman when 0/0
I died to Magic Butterfly.

I'll get it eventually. Giving UFO 1 credit/day seems like something I can stick to.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Oh on April 24, 2013, 08:44:40 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/HxEB7mb.jpg?1)
I have sooo many 6-miss runs. Damnit. I want to get better.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on April 24, 2013, 09:05:00 PM
What were the deaths to?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Oh on April 24, 2013, 09:19:19 PM
books, patchy (2), sakuya last non, YDL, gensokyo.
I seriously need to stop dying to Patchy. I swear I could consistency no-miss her a while ago.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on April 24, 2013, 09:20:53 PM
Assuming you're playing as ReimuB that's not unheard of, at least not for me. Death to Sakuya's last non sucks though, as well as YDL.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Tsym on April 26, 2013, 06:23:59 AM
Wow. I perfected SA Stage 6, then lost the replay to SA crashing. Words cannot even begin to describe how pissed I am.

You know what? I'm done with this stage. I have a ton of 1MNB runs, and I am not playing through this god awful stage again only to have one silly death on one silly pattern. At this point, I might as well try for a no bomb run as opposed to continue grinding for a perfect stage 6.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Nindella on April 26, 2013, 06:30:31 AM
Wow. I perfected SA Stage 6, then lost the replay to SA crashing. Words cannot even begin to describe how pissed I am.

You know what? I'm done with this stage. I have a ton of 1MNB runs, and I am not playing through this god awful stage again only to have one silly death on one silly pattern. At this point, I might as well try for a no bomb run as opposed to continue grinding for a perfect stage 6.

Ouch!  That really sucks  :ohdear:

The crashing thing happens occasionally to me, but never anywhere important (cue jinx  :derp:).  You've gotten very good though so good luck for the no-bomb!  :D
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Shikieiki on April 26, 2013, 01:16:54 PM
Had my best EoSD Extra with Reimu B but it crashed and didn't save. ._.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Wriggle on April 26, 2013, 04:50:33 PM
Wow. I perfected SA Stage 6, then lost the replay to SA crashing. Words cannot even begin to describe how pissed I am.

You know what? I'm done with this stage. I have a ton of 1MNB runs, and I am not playing through this god awful stage again only to have one silly death on one silly pattern. At this point, I might as well try for a no bomb run as opposed to continue grinding for a perfect stage 6.

It's possible you're having the same issue I had. Check every internal scoreboard with every shot. One could've gotten corrupt. This happened to my ReimuA's Extra scoreboard, which led me download yours. I could send you back if needed. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on April 26, 2013, 06:09:17 PM
Failed a PCB no-bombs run again.

Yeah, i'm a waste of life. I admit it.

EDIT: Got a 2-bombs 9 miss run. AOHEADOUGhaweoguhaseowujh
Horrible, horrible. How the fuck is it possible to be this horrible. Fuck this horrendous final boss. Fuck these dreadful stages. Only good parts of this is Youmu, Alice and a select few patterns here and there and yet this fucking game haunts my soul still because i'm so utterly horrendous at shmups that I can't seem to get an acceptable tier run in it.

Hate.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zil on April 26, 2013, 09:53:27 PM
No-Bomb run (http://i.imgur.com/mfybIDt.png)

Last two deaths weren't my fault. Anex can suck a dick.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Reiko on April 26, 2013, 11:35:46 PM
3 deaths to stage 7 Aya.
After surviving over 2:30 the first round.
Blergh. Never ran into bullets with such enthusiasm before  :V

Also, <insert useless rant about PCB here>. I'm just unable to micrododge properly, and I keep blaming the lack of good shottypes (and my keyboard) for all the repeated failures...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: an unmatched sock on April 26, 2013, 11:44:10 PM
PoFV...why must you shut yourself down for no reason. Ever since I got my better computer, I haven't been able to play it. I start up Stage 1, and it works fine, but autoshot doesn't work (don't know if its supposed to), but after some button spamming for shooting, it turns off. Progress is impossible. It angers me.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Validon98 on April 27, 2013, 12:48:00 AM
I just tried Extra for UFO. And guess what? I died as Nue was dying, but before the bullets faded out.
THAT COUNTS. THAT FUCKING COUNTS! I WON THAT, DAMN IT! ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH!!!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Yatakarasu on April 27, 2013, 02:48:03 AM
Speaking of Nue. I got all the way to Undefined Darkness without losing a single life (even on the stage) and then lost all of them and game over'd to Rainbow UFOs. I...I just don't think Nue wants me to win.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Lavalake on April 27, 2013, 04:24:23 AM
You people are better than me.
<Me playing Perfect Cherry Blossom on easy modo.> (Yes, easy...)
<Gets to "Resurrection Butterfly -10% Reflowering-">
No, not the red butterflies! NO- <Game over screen.>

<Me on Lunatic>
<Goes All over the screen to dodge bullets>
<Hits random just spawned enemies, or mid-boss>
<Game over>
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Aeteas on April 27, 2013, 09:09:04 PM
Failed a no-bomb PCB lunatic on yuyuko's second to last spell. I probably could have cleared it if I didn't derp stage 4 so much.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Oh on April 27, 2013, 11:07:08 PM
I tried MoF scoring and died twice to Sanae.
1.6 ----> 1.35
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: MTSranger on April 28, 2013, 06:12:26 AM
EoSD lunatic run -> Enter Remillia 4/1, yeah this will clear for SURE right? I can't be this bad... not after that spectacular fight with Sakuya...
Death to 3rd noncard streaming fire bullets
Death to the first wave of Scarlet Meister
Death to bubble wave of Scarlet Gensokyo by hitting bubble when no other bullets are nearby.
2 more deaths and then game failed...  :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on April 28, 2013, 09:46:09 PM
Two IN LNB game overs on Hourai Jewel.

Fucking annoying shit. Kaguya you are the worst fucking boss in this series. At least as far as windows is concerned. I just want this fucking game cleared so i never have to play it again.

EDIT: And another failed run. I think I've had enough of reaching Kags with 5-6 lives and just losing anyway. It's disheartening and frustrating. I'll just play FinalA from now on. She's a lot better boss. Easier perhabs but Kaguya is just the opposite of  fun and I don't want her ruining IN for me.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on April 29, 2013, 02:59:43 AM
guys, I just streamed. EoSD LNB was requested. all I have to say it this game is fugging impossible :V

I mean, do you still lose an LNB if you capture books and NMNB stage 5? fucking impossible I say

I merely jest. I died to cirno once, so the run was under a bad star already. I NMNB'd stage 3, captured book and then came the part I had no fucking clue how to do. 2 deaths to the 2nd half of stage 4 and 1 death to emerald megashit.

the NMNB stage 5. I don't know how, but it happened. I suppose killing doll is the only actual thread in any case. so I had 3 extra lives going into stage 6. what I died to: pellet section. if you think the random mess at the start, think again. I died to the streaming section. so all in all, I died to 3 streaming sections in this LNB. the second death was on meek. some might say it's okay, but I am embarrassed about it. I fought meek like 8 times in the stream and capped it 6 out of those. and one of the failures had to be in the run. entering remilia with one extra life, I knew it was over (gee, I said it was after stage 4 :V). I proceed to die to the first non in the most retarded manner. game over to young demon lord. I just completely broke down once I entered stage 6 for some reason. it was definitely something I could have cleared, but consistency isn't on my side, ever.

but hey, this run was like, without any practice, pretty much. I played stage 5 and 6 twice before I started (game over'd ALL the times), and that hardly counts as practice.stage 4 and 6 need work, in any case :V here is the replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=28002) if anyone's interested. it's pretty hilarious. 9 deaths, and of those 9 deaths, 8 were retarded. the only one I could live with was the one on emerald megashit.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on April 29, 2013, 09:00:54 AM
Well yeah, it seems like you were lacking a bunch of practice. You say it's fugging impossible but your run says otherwise. :V See my recent LNB - a died to a bunch of silly things yet cleared anyway because doing well on the final stages is very possible.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: chum on April 29, 2013, 09:54:02 AM
I'm not sure how many 1MNB runs I'm at with EoSD stage 6 now, either 7 or 8. It's pissing me off! Whenever I capture Meister, Gensokyo decides to be stupid.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: RNG on April 29, 2013, 06:34:29 PM
Whenever I cap Meister (which isn't very often), I'm like OH GOD I CAPPED MEISTER and I proceed to forget how to do anything.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Makedounia on April 30, 2013, 05:38:47 PM
Perfect Satori on normal -> save replay -> game crashes!!! Damn it!

EDIT: Same thing happened again!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Yatakarasu on April 30, 2013, 06:02:09 PM
Normal, No Focus MoF run ruined by Aya. Even though I got to Kanako, Aya ate all my lives.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: I have no name on May 01, 2013, 12:00:41 AM
Another 1DNB EoSD extra, this time the death was a double KO to Starbow Break.

At least I seem consistent at QED.  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: ElDestructoe on May 01, 2013, 02:16:49 AM
Hey, let's play some MoF Easy!

Wow, this might actually be a good run! (http://puu.sh/2Ks2Z.bmp)
Oh yeah, I forgot about this spell. (http://puu.sh/2Ks3h.bmp) Good thing I'm fantastic at it. (http://puu.sh/2Ks3H.bmp)
0/10. (http://puu.sh/2Ks2d.bmp)

Maybe I'll fare better in Normal.

Looks like I will. (http://puu.sh/2Ksup.bmp)
I can totally go through here! (http://puu.sh/2KsAh.bmp)
Maybe not. (http://puu.sh/2KsB2.bmp)
This is totally a hard spell. (http://puu.sh/2KsFs.bmp)

Disappointing isn't strong enough of a word for this. (http://puu.sh/2Ktle.bmp)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: commandercool on May 01, 2013, 02:57:50 AM
Gah... Died stupidly on midboss Meiling's nonspell, immediately forgot I died, and tried to POC her extra life drop. Got above the POC, life kept falling, tried to catch it. Didn't. Face->keyboard.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zork787 on May 01, 2013, 07:23:30 PM
after game overing to Yuyuko in PCB Hard during a stage practise... I had a revelation... Even if you know EXACTLY how to beat a stage, and get pixel perfect dodges, Touhou will ALWAYS find a way to screw you over.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Makedounia on May 02, 2013, 09:38:06 PM
I was trying MoF no miss on normal. I was genuinely surprised that I made it to final stage without dying. I can usually beat Kanako without dying, so this should be a piece of cake...right? WRONG! One dumb mistake in God's Rice Porridge and it's all over! Looks like more Kanako practice for me...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Tao-Sensei on May 03, 2013, 01:20:27 AM
> Fighting Yuyuko for the first time on a PCB Lunatic 1cc attempt.
> Spell before 80% Reflowering, my left arrow key glitches out and I can't stop moving to the left for the life of me.
> Game over.

This has also happened with Kanako and Sakuya, both with my up arrow key.

Also, Stage 4 of MoF on Lunatic is maddening.
> Starts stage with 5 extra lives, 6 lives total.
> Ends with 1 extra life, 2 lives total.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Tsym on May 03, 2013, 05:47:09 AM
Ugh god I felt so good about my MarisaB UFO Lunatic clear after I got my MarisaA clear, but now I'm sitting here putting in credit after credit and I'm making literally no progress.

I hate how you have to literally sit under the UFO for a good 5 seconds with no enemies around for MarisaB to pop them. I hate how awful MarisaB's damage scaling is. She's fine at 1 power, but she's literally a full power's worth of damage below everyone else at any given point because the spread on her focus shot causes half of her option's shots to miss. I hate how she cannot kill stage 5 Nazrin's non-spell fast enough to give me a chance at the bonus UFOs afterwards. Most importantly, I hate how terrible her bomb is.

One bomb does not clear Greatest Treasure, and if you bomb because you got an unlucky first wave, you need to survive at least 2 more waves to clear it. Terrible.
If you go into Shou at less than max power, you need to survive at least 2.5 waves of Radiant Treasure Gun to clear it with one bomb, and you need to survive at least 3 waves of her second non-spell to clear it with one bomb. And while I'm talking about Shou, I. Hate. Aura. Of. Justice. For being impossible to capture at less than 3 to full power with MarisaB unless you play extremely aggressively.
Don't go into Byakuren with full power? Well you're screwed because you need to survive at least 1.5 waves of Purple Cloud to clear it with one bomb and you need to double bomb her second non-spell regardless of power.
Milky Way Galaxy sucks because bombing once during it means that when the bomb ends, some of the banana lasers will only be small stubs which makes it impossible to read their trajectory and necessitates a second bomb.
If you're at max power, Byakuren's circling non-spell takes 2.5 rotations, but if you are at 3 power, you need 3.5 rotations, and anything less is practically a time out, which means something like 4+ rotations. Bombing it does jack shit because MarisaB's bomb is weak enough and lasts for a short enough duration that you cannot spend any time underneath Byakuren unless you want to die while getting in a good position again.

MarisaB just does so unbelievably poorly when compared to any other shot type in UFO. I cannot think of another game in the series where there are literally no redeeming qualities to a shot type when compared to another. Except maybe Sakuya solo from IN. But there's a partner system in IN for a reason. MarisaB is just... Ugh.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: cactu on May 04, 2013, 02:12:51 AM
I got to Scarlet Meister with 7 extra lives on a no bomb run. Again (first death was on sakuya 2nd non btw).
I die twice on Meister, again.
Once again, I can't get a 2Miss, Or even a 1Miss run.
Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck my life
fucking shit
goddamnit
;_;
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on May 04, 2013, 09:38:20 AM
^ An entire run hinging on Meister RNG is kind of crap, I've got to admit.

---

Failed the perfect Stage 6 to Gensokyo, first time after a while. That Meister cap was otherworldly... this one should have been it. Dammit.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Elysia on May 04, 2013, 10:12:57 AM
This about sums it up. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mYfM-_CQKk)

Stupidly boring stage followed by stupidly clippy card followed by what's generally considered the single hardest card in the game...and that's before we even get to the boss proper.

Where we have those nonspells. Those freaking nonspells. With the glowing bullets flying all over the place. I've lost way too many runs to those wretched patterns. If you think the pattern in the video is bad, the second one is even harder than that. And the fourth one is even harder than THAT.

And if I manage somehow to get through that, then I wind up dying to this shit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4gyySWDAK0). Even knowing how to do it doesn't really help me much when the "proper" method has me getting clipdeathed a thousand times anyway.

Oh, and this is the less ragey option for me right now, since all the stuff I've been trying to time out has been...not even remotely cooperative. At this point, I'm just hoping for Touhou 14 to get announced ASAP, or to just find some non-danmakufu fangame that's actually good.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: K.B. on May 04, 2013, 04:12:36 PM
Tsym: I've always thought that being gimped was the appeal of Mari-b.  An extra challenge... an intermediate step before pacifism.  You know, in case UFO wasn't already hard enough for you.


There seems to be a delay between pressing x and bombing in PoDD, and it's both infuriating and confounding.  I thought I felt a little input lag in Next, but I'm not feeling any in Neko Project, yet I'm still getting hit before bombing.  And it shouldn't be deathbomb reliance, as I haven't played any of the main series in over half a year, and it shouldn't be the computer or monitor, as both are brand new and very good.  Maybe it's a slight misestimation of hitboxes or velocities, but I think by now I should have a solid handle on all that, especially since this isn't just happening with one type of obstacle (and since my reading and reflexes are still in decent shape from Super Hexagon).

It doesn't make sense for this to be caused by the game and, unless I'm mistaken, I don't see anyone else having this issue.  That leaves the emu and its configuration, but I don't see any complaints in the Neko Project tech support thread, and I don't know what to change or how to test the changes because the game already runs smoothly.  And I really, really don't want to go back to Anex (ugh.).  So it would be nice if this were caused by the game, since the solution would be to just to suck it up and bomb earlier, but if it is the emu then I want to know this because that means there's a slight input lag, which is a handicap I want to avoid.

Blogging, I guess, but if anyone has ideas or answers I'd be very interested to hear them.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: chum on May 04, 2013, 04:16:26 PM
I have bomb delay in  PoDD too.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on May 04, 2013, 04:41:09 PM
Yep, not just you. I complained about input lag a few months ago and was met with "nope", because there's none, except for when it comes to bombing.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on May 04, 2013, 05:15:01 PM
i have bomb input lagg, too with anex. I think it's normal. bomb early. bomb if you see shitstorms coming you feel you can't dodge and having nothing to reflect it with.it's an estimation thing.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: K.B. on May 04, 2013, 05:57:50 PM
Oh, wow, didn't realize you all were having the same issue.  Thought I was reading all the PoDD posts... guess I wasn't paying close enough attention.

Thanks guys.  I feel a lot better knowing this.

Unrelated curiosity: I hypered right as Kotohime was about to do a boss attack, and the bullets didn't appear.  The boss kept going afterward as if everything was normal: she moved to her next position and the next attack had bullets.  Not sure if this was a one-time fluke or if some bullets simply don't appear at the same time a hyper is activated. edit: nevermind, this is normal.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zil on May 04, 2013, 06:19:17 PM
It sometimes clears the bullets from the screen upon activation. Other times it doesn't. I think. I'm not sure what effects it. What it does do every time is destroy all of the enemies though.

Also I've personally never felt like the bombs had a delay, but maybe I'm just so used to it I don't notice. I usually bomb well before the bullets reach me anyway. Maybe I'll try comparing it to PoFV bombing later.

Edit: Yeah, I don't notice it. I mean, there's probably a very slight delay for everything (I don't think the game is 100% lag free), but I'm not feeling any overt delay between my pressing the bomb button and the bomb actually going off. But if you're all feeling it then... I dunno.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Validon98 on May 04, 2013, 07:11:10 PM
Fuck UFO Extra forever. I can't even get a good UFO run in the second half. I can't even get to Nue anymore. What happened to me?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Mesarthim on May 05, 2013, 05:32:21 AM
Damn it damn it damn it.

I almost had a perfect Yukari as Marisa B, but nooooo, I died in the dumbest way possible on the first timeout. It wasn't even the end part...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Nindella on May 05, 2013, 06:25:49 AM
Flibberdy flobberdy boop! (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=28107)

Orin's being mean to me  :ohdear:

Failed two potential perfects in a row to the 1st spell, but I've never really considered it one of the tricky things in practice compared to a lot of other attacks...  :(

Ahh... time to roll in bed and hug my Orin plushie ;_;
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on May 05, 2013, 09:48:14 AM
You sure you don't want to be playing target practice with that plushie?  >:D
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on May 07, 2013, 04:26:41 PM
Didn't manage to grab 2b on IN Easy... fuck. Now I have to try this mode again. Wild.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Yatakarasu on May 07, 2013, 06:23:21 PM
Bad UFO Extra night:
- die 10 times before the midboss (restarting each time)
- get to Nue with 2 lives 3 bombs and die to the first card
- lose all lives to Undefined Darkness
- game over 4 seconds into Rainbow UFOs

Maybe one day I'll clear this. Really wish I would stop messing up in the same spots.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on May 07, 2013, 06:47:02 PM
Bad UFO Extra night:
- die 10 times before the midboss (restarting each time)
- get to Nue with 2 lives 3 bombs and die to the first card
- lose all lives to Undefined Darkness
- game over 4 seconds into Rainbow UFOs

Maybe one day I'll clear this. Really wish I would stop messing up in the same spots.


if yo uare messing up the same spots every time, maybe a replay will help you? I mean, I know from myself that some things aren't simply because you can't dodge them, but because you are executing them in a bad way. take undefined darkness, for example. I used to find it to be really difficult, until I learnt you can keep nue high up on the screen for virtually the whole card, which made it loads easier.

now, who can tell me what is wrong with this picture:

(http://abload.de/img/unbenannts6uzh.jpg)

I was doing PCB LNB, going for 5M and lower. the run went great with 1M when I entered stage 5 (miss was on prismriver's last spellcard just when it was about to die. kind of disappointing I couldn't dodge that last second.)

then stage 5 happened. now, before everyone jumps at me and says "stage 5 is hurd", please keep in mind that I can VERY consistently 1M or NM the stage in practice mode. I spent a good number of practice runs on it because I know it tends to ruin runs. but what now? I died to the spam section in the beginning of the stage. I usually get past it, but deaths like these happen, I thought. I could live with it, but then the terror happened. I died to youmu. MIDBOSS youmu. midboss youmu's spellcard. infuriating. worst kind of death that could possibly happen. fuck everything, but then I thought I still had 2 more misses, so if I could just NMNB youmu, things would have been fine. WELL, I don't know why, but HGS lasted a wave longer than usual. I was puzzled, confused and didn't know why it happened this time, of all times. my best run, and youmu seemingly dicks around with me like never before. what? why this time? I still don't understand, but I finished the fight without dying further. stage 5 with 3 misses is too fucking much. I only had one miss to spare. and I knew I would use it early on. being angry as I was, I couldn't dodge the stage 6 spam. so it all came down to NMNB yuyuko. thing went okay. I was nervous, of course. dying one more time would mean the run was lost. to make things short: I died to the 3rd non because I was too greedy. she would have died in a fraction of second, but that was not quick enough and I got hit. terrible death. a silly mistake. and as though yuyuko wanted to spite me, I NMNB'd the rest of her regular fight.
now, I did die to reflowering. however, I played it very differently since I alredy lost. it wouldn't have made a difference had I game over'd to it at this point. I tried collecting as much cherry as I could, ramming a bubble of all things. obviously has I still have a chance at that point, I'd have played it safe. so in short, had I not died to, let's say, youmu's midboss spell, this would have been 5M. very disappointed with my stage 5 performance in particular, but most deaths were not good. 3 deaths happened, because the boss didn't die a second faster, literally a second. 2 more deaths happened at places I can clear consistently without any troubles. one more death happened simply because the run was over and it didn't even matter. my only not close-not retarded death was the stage 6 spamsection.

I am disappointed, albeit calmed down by now.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Silent Harmony on May 08, 2013, 05:44:09 AM
I seriously have hit a wall in DS Levels 4 and 5. I can't clear any new scenes no matter what I try. The worst so far are 4-1 and 5-1, which have taken 100+ pictures each. Special mention to 4-2 because it almost never gets past 1 picture.

I don't mind failing a few times, or even many times, as long as there are signs of improvement and a sense that victory is coming. That's not happening here. I'm dying to the same shit over and over and over again, and no amount of replays or advice seem to help.

I'm trying to use DS to improve my planning, reading, and dodging skills (for better or worse). I want to advance in these games, but if I'm struggling so much on relatively easy scenes, what hope do I have for the harder Normal Touhou games (SA & UFO), nevertheless Hard?!

*sigh*
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: ARF on May 08, 2013, 10:44:38 AM
I seriously have hit a wall in DS Levels 4 and 5. I can't clear any new scenes no matter what I try. The worst so far are 4-1 and 5-1, which have taken 100+ pictures each. Special mention to 4-2 because it almost never gets past 1 picture.

I don't mind failing a few times, or even many times, as long as there are signs of improvement and a sense that victory is coming. That's not happening here. I'm dying to the same shit over and over and over again, and no amount of replays or advice seem to help.

I'm trying to use DS to improve my planning, reading, and dodging skills (for better or worse). I want to advance in these games, but if I'm struggling so much on relatively easy scenes, what hope do I have for the harder Normal Touhou games (SA & UFO), nevertheless Hard?!

*sigh*

Eh, I had lots of trouble in DS when I first started playing a ~200 photo first clear in stage 2 comes to mind. But don't worry, it will definitely help you improve your general skills.

Below is even more advice even though you didn't ask for it.

4-1 Seems to be intended that you move through the zig-zag bullets high on the screen while they are slow, while in double focus/charging camera, to do this you need to find a path that lets you stream the aimed barrage towards the end. But you can dodge at the bottom of the screen if you keep streaming the big bullets in mind while doing so.

5-1 Is static as you already know, just make a replay of an attempt and carefully watch the pattern without having to think about dodging, or even screencap it and look at how the lasers are positioned relative to Ichirin. You have plenty of time to go up and take a photo in between waves, just take it easy. Also don't be afraid to change your camera alignment and zoom a bit for your first clear.

4-2 Don't rely too much on camera charge here, I find that it's so much easier without it. Just sit in normal focus, realize that there's sort of a left-right macro dodging involved for each wave and try to read the small bullets, which are also pretty much static. I believe that Momiji can screw you over if you're really unlucky with her movements, which would force you to charge for a defensive photo.

Just take it easy and try to analyze what the pattern is about as your first priority, there's often ways to approach the scenes in the photo games which might not be entirely obvious at first glance, not many scenes in DS actually require much "hardcore dodging".
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Yatakarasu on May 08, 2013, 12:30:15 PM
if yo uare messing up the same spots every time, maybe a replay will help you? I mean, I know from myself that some things aren't simply because you can't dodge them, but because you are executing them in a bad way. take undefined darkness, for example. I used to find it to be really difficult, until I learnt you can keep nue high up on the screen for virtually the whole card, which made it loads easier.
Replays only go so far for me. It's not about knowing how others do it, it's about know how I do it. I have to do the card, sometimes a lot, in order to really get it. Trial and error and whatnot. The reason I keep messing up in the same spots because it's the Extra thus it is harder to practice. Doesn't help that the stage is still a pain in the ass most times.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Limian on May 08, 2013, 10:23:02 PM
fuck you, remilia

just fuck you (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=28154)

EDIT: here's another one: perfect stages 1-3, NM4B stage 4, I died on:
- misdirection
- post-sakuya spam
- ludo bile
- ludo bile (??)
- the world
- killing doll
- meek
- remi's opener
- remi's opener

what the fuck.

I didn't bother saving the replay because it wasn't worth it. Misdirection and Meek were the only deaths where I didn't have any bombs in stock. For the rest, I can only blame myself for playing absolutely terribly.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Makedounia on May 09, 2013, 09:45:01 PM
Oh my fucking god! That was probably the worst attempt at MoF extra since I started practicing it. I died once on every attack after her second nonspell. That was absolutely terrible! It doesn't help when I'm doing well either: I get EXTREMELY nervous whenever I am playing better than usual. So it's either: I play badly -> ragequit or I play well -> I get nervous -> I make stupid mistakes. I really need to learn how to keep my cool.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Mino ☆ on May 11, 2013, 06:49:51 AM
Touhou Ten Desires Lunatic No Bombs No Trance.

Where to begin? I've been at this for a while now, and even after "perfecting" (NMNB) stages 4 and 5 in practice mode, and almost stage 6 (I bumped into Miko when restreaming her final spell :V), I felt confident to try this challenge again.

I didn't even make it to Seiga in the hours I put in.

I don't really despise Ten Desires as most people do, but I hate it enough to understand why so many people hate it.

One of the major issues is the lack of resources. The game does supply lots of bombs and trances (good luck not losing them to clip deaths), but LNBNT isn't something I think can be underestimated. It (as well as NMNBNT) is probably a challenge that really makes this game actually hard.

Those bombs and trances are very useful in getting through the unnecessarily BS and clippy patterns in the game, but when you take those away, you're forced to fend for yourself.

I find I die more in stages 2 and 3 rather than in stages 4 and 5. This is an extremely odd case, as I find when I attempt a casual LNB run, I can do just fine on Kyouko, but on LNBNT she destroys me. There's a select few attacks in this game which I just find annoyingly unreadable. I can't handle Kyouko's bubble spell. I hate how the density and the speed of the bubbles overwhelms me and confuses me like hell, but I also despise Yoshika's second spellcard. That kunai hell is clippy and blocks me off almost every time in a main run. I find the bullets spawn too close for comfort, and it's hard to know where the gaps are going to be. I find I "clip" most bullets in this game.

But that seems to be where the core difficulty of this game is. Do you often play other Touhou games and say "Oh, I clipped this bullet!" on every single death? And I mean EVERY SINGLE DEATH! I sure don't. It almost feels like Ten Desires is just completely reliant on clippyness for difficulty. I feel like I'm being played for a fool when I die in that game. It almost feels as if everything is out to get you in that game, especially arrows and kunai bullets. I can't really explain this phenomenon, and I heard at one time that the hitbox sprites for the players were actually REDUCED a few pixils. So why is general clip-death a problem?

I know this game is infamously known for "easy difficulty", but I actually find the clip-death phenomenon makes this Touhou one of the harder ones. Maybe that's just because of the LNBNT condition, but I don't find this as easy as people seem to make it out to be.

Perhaps I shouldn't really focus too much on this challenge, but I can't really help it. I want to really try this challenge, I really do, but I don't think it's worth it.

I really hope this new Touhou 14 isn't going to be clip-death mania again. And I hope you actually get a decent amount of resources in it. I can't wait to try and LNB it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on May 11, 2013, 08:44:55 PM
Death to the final wave of Scarlet Genskoyo, to a bubble.

Fuck my life.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Oh on May 11, 2013, 11:10:03 PM
I feel like blogging about EoSD again.

No improvement. Another day spent frustrated and angry, like any other day. I feel as if I hit a skill cap. I can't seem to best my horrible no bombs runs. Even a improvement by 1 miss is rejected by the game. I have been putting credits almost everyday since December of last year, to beat my 6-miss, which is my second ever LNB. At that time, I wasn't even trying to low-miss. It's ironic that when I want to do it now I can't. I have had, over the past months, countless 6-miss runs. I don't know why I am not improving.
I am sick and tired of restarting 2-4 runs on books just to die once or even twice on Patchouli. I can't seem to ever NMNB 4, 5, or 6 in full runs even though I can do it in practice just fine. I always die 3-4 times entering stage 6. And by the rare chance I do reach stage 6 with 2 miss, I completely fuck up even the most trivial patterns and end up with the same result.
I don't even feel that I am close to achieving my goal, which is a measly 4-miss run. However, I know I will keep playing. Again, I know not of the reason.

...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Kaze_Senshi on May 11, 2013, 11:17:59 PM
I feel like blogging about EoSD again.

No improvement. Another day spent frustrated and angry, like any other day. I feel as if I hit a skill cap. I can't seem to best my horrible no bombs runs. Even a improvement by 1 miss is rejected by the game. I have been putting credits almost everyday since December of last year, to beat my 6-miss, which is my second ever LNB. At that time, I wasn't even trying to low-miss. It's ironic that when I want to do it now I can't. I have had, over the past months, countless 6-miss runs. I don't know why I am not improving.
I am sick and tired of restarting 2-4 runs on books just to die once or even twice on Patchouli. I can't seem to ever NMNB 4, 5, or 6 in full runs even though I can do it in practice just fine. I always die 3-4 times entering stage 6. And by the rare chance I do reach stage 6 with 2 miss, I completely fuck up even the most trivial patterns and end up with the same result.
I don't even feel that I am close to achieving my goal, which is a measly 4-miss run. However, I know I will keep playing. Again, I know not of the reason.

...

Try to take a time to relax from Touhou, this week I didn't play touhou because I was working on my final project, today I played a bit and captured Mikoto's Marine Benefit for the first time ;P

BTW #!$! you Mamizou, that Seventh Duel spellcard is the most unfriendly spellcard for bombing, you bomb and when the bomb ends it is like before you bombing, full of birds and dogs :/
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on May 11, 2013, 11:34:28 PM
I feel like blogging about EoSD again.
What a coincidence!

Except I do the blogging internally, and I think I figured it out. When you have a long-term (or short-term that miraculously drags on to the long-term) goal, you're usually chained to it until you're done. I remember playing UFO for a good two months straight when I was going for the Lunatic 1cc -- I don't remember how many times I've played Stage 6 of EoSD since November, though! I've always wondered why I wasn't as eager to contest others and their no bomb runs, scores, PoDD clears, and it's because Remilia had me occupied whether I approved of it or not.

There's this one fantastic thing about shmups and other skill-based hobbies. Think of a pianist who has invested a good deal of his time polishing a favorite piece, playing it as well as he could, reaching a 'limit' but never landing those fast parts as well as he'd like. He moves on to other, slightly more complicated pieces, possibly polishing those as well. A year later, he returns to his old, favorite piece, heartbroken that he's forgotten a lot of what he left to muscle memory, thinking his time was all to waste. It's okay, though, because after just a few playthroughs it seems to come back to him on its own, as if he'd never stopped. Suddenly he was able to play his piece just as he'd have liked to a year ago.

Got the memo? There's a good reason people claim to have amazing results after coming back to a game they haven't played for a while. How is it possible, they ask -- you'd expect a hiatus to bring bad results, but as with any STG-like experience, your performance is up to two things - memorization and skill.

The reason you think you've hit a wall is because you actually are improving, but the improvement is slow enough for you to miss completely.

I'm going to try my hand at some other game for the time being, myself -- maybe get back into UFO, maybe change that forbidden FPS setting.


I might have went a bit ~fancy~ there. Sorry!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: an unmatched sock on May 12, 2013, 12:21:14 AM
Quote
Think of a pianist who has invested a good deal of his time polishing a favorite piece, playing it as well as he could, reaching a 'limit' but never landing those fast parts as well as he'd like. He moves on to other, slightly more complicated pieces, possibly polishing those as well. A year later, he returns to his old, favorite piece, heartbroken that he's forgotten a lot of what he left to muscle memory, thinking his time was all to waste. It's okay, though, because after just a few playthroughs it seems to come back to him on its own, as if he'd never stopped. Suddenly he was able to play his piece just as he'd have liked to a year ago.

.___.    How do you know me and my problems with my arrangement of Border of Life and Necro-Fantasy?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Oh on May 12, 2013, 12:34:37 AM
You do have a point. I will grind EoSD for a bit more. If nothing good happens I'm ready to give up for a couple of months.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: MTSranger on May 12, 2013, 06:33:07 AM
eh, almost NM'd SA extra.
Someday I need to learn how to Philosopher
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Nindella on May 13, 2013, 03:59:37 PM
Failed perfect SA lunatic to a very unintentional and stupid dodge on Utsuho's 1st spell.   

Finished as a 2MNB with second death on Peta Flare because I was very flustered after failing the NMNB.  (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=28247)


Urghhh... guuuhhh.... Hit 600 hours in SA a lil' while ago  :ohdear:  no good, must grind more hours...  :blush:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: cactu on May 13, 2013, 04:55:18 PM
Wow, that really sucks Nindella. Keep going and you'll get the NMNB eventually!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on May 13, 2013, 11:24:33 PM
600 hours :V Insane there kitty. But keep it coming. If anyone here deserves that NMNB, it's you. :V

I'll stop saying lewd things about Orin for a month when you do it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Mesarthim on May 14, 2013, 07:54:55 AM
Died 4 times to Lunatic Satori. Once to first spell, once to second nonspell, once to first Aya spell, once to Great Whirlwind.

Nonspell is just an absurdly narrow spot to dodge which for me is 50/50 each wave. First Aya spell is more of an error on my part but I think I might potentially find that easier than MoF if I get practice in. Great Whirlwind on Lunatic... I don't even know where to begin.

And somehow in this same run I actually get all the way to Utsuho and clear, but during Ten Evil Stars I had no lives, no power. I finally got a grasp on that safe spot but it made me nervous as hell. Consequently due to my bad luck with the 2nd and 4th nonspell I had to do Hell's Tokamak with no power as well. That... took awhile, but I didn't die!

If I didn't die 4-5 times on stage 4, yes 4, not 5, I could've cleared it with nearly 4 lives remaining.

More practice for SA Lunatic!  :derp:

 ::)

Get to lunatic stage 6 SA with 5 lives, lose 5 lives to Stage 6.

F.....................

Well on the plus side despite my lack of skill on great whirlwind I did it with 0 power and didn't die. Scary stuff.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: K.B. on May 14, 2013, 06:14:39 PM
It sometimes clears the bullets from the screen upon activation. Other times it doesn't. I think. I'm not sure what effects it. What it does do every time is destroy all of the enemies though.
You're right, that's normal.  I haven't noticed any time when hypering didn't clear all the bullets (excluding mines and all ex-attacks except for Kana's).  I was being dumb.


A derp more than a rage, but since I'm already posting here... I wish I would stop running into lone bullets.  It's as if I take pity on them being spawned and fired where there aren't any other bullets, when they have no chance of hitting the player, so every now and then I just glomp one to make it feel better and allow it to fulfill its purpose.  I did that yesterday to a pellet, which killed me on the first life after the first continue against Yumemi, when I was certain I had less than half a minute left before she'd have capitulated.  Nothing else nearby; there wasn't even a cross to have hidden it for a moment.  As it was, I was stunned, but if I hadn't had an earlier stupid death to Ellen and that had been on my first credit, I would have been devastated.

On the upside, theoretically, when the stars align and when I'm not a dumbass, I'm finally at a point where I could get this.  Eventually.  Maybe.

edit: just had what should have been the run.  One death each to Kotohime, Chiyuri, and Yumemi.  Had Yumemi at half a heart for about a minute and a half, then got overwhelmed between hypers.  Nasty combination of everything; took three hits in a row.  So close.  Ugh.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zil on May 15, 2013, 04:52:27 AM
You're right, that's normal.  I haven't noticed any time when hypering didn't clear all the bullets
Now that I think of it, I don't recall very many times where it didn't clear the bullets, though I'm pretty sure it can happen. I think it may have something to do with triggering a boss attack or something, since the enemies directly destroyed by the hyper will reflect anything that's right on top of them (and I have no idea if that starts a new combo or continues the current one, now that I think of it). More crap to look into I guess. The advantage of having a million old recordings is that I can analyze them to try to figure out how things work. It's a bit tedious though.

I know what you mean about the lone bullet ramming. It used to happen to me constantly, but I've gotten better at resisting the urge. When it still gets me a lot though is when I'm right against the edge, and a bullet is going to fly offscreen way above me. I think like I have to get above it or something and fly straight up into it. Like my brain's trying to macrododge when there's only one bullet there.

Looking forward to hearing about it when you've finally slain the beast.

edit: podd is suffering (http://i.imgur.com/jwHTOyq.jpg)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on May 17, 2013, 12:33:07 AM
EDIT: Just some former depression inspired vomit. Pls carry on with your raging.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Silent Harmony on May 17, 2013, 05:57:03 AM
I should be happy but I'm not. I want to clear 30 scenes in DS before I move onto UFO, but I'm stuck at 29. Like I have no idea where #30 is going to come from, but not from any of the cards I tried that's for sure.

Also have a new record worst: 170 pictures on 5-3 and counting. :fail: Can't wait until I hit the 500+ range....
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Mesarthim on May 17, 2013, 06:21:23 AM
I should be happy but I'm not. I want to clear 30 scenes in DS before I move onto UFO, but I'm stuck at 29. Like I have no idea where #30 is going to come from, but not from any of the cards I tried that's for sure.

Also have a new record worst: 170 pictures on 5-3 and counting. :fail: Can't wait until I hit the 500+ range....

I haven't touched Double Spoiler in awhile but I checked just now to see my pre-clear photo count at 5 photos. I stopped playing once I cleared everything as Hatate. If you need a tip from my perspective I take a picture of one fist then redirect the rest (they hammer down on your current position). Aya's camera recharge is slower but still fast enough to recharge before the next fist barrage.

As for rage of my own I keep making silly mistakes in SA stage 1 Lunatic (why is stage 1 harder than stage 2?) so I increasingly got angry. Noticing this I needed to redirect it on something so I chose an empty soda can on my desk and crushed it.

RIP soda can.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Silent Harmony on May 17, 2013, 06:40:51 AM
I haven't touched Double Spoiler in awhile but I checked just now to see my pre-clear photo count at 5 photos. I stopped playing once I cleared everything as Hatate. If you need a tip from my perspective I take a picture of one fist then redirect the rest (they hammer down on your current position).

I'm well aware the fists are aimed. I'm just struggling to find a route. It's likely another case of simply over-dodging everything. I'm too frustrated to try it again however.

I also am heavily struggling with Adamant Helix (horrible I know) and Electrified Nyuudou. The rest of the attacks either have low attempts but seem too hard for me right now or have a lot of attempts but are nowhere near cleared (often only 1 photo before death).

Honestly I feel like this is more worthy of derp thread than rage thread it's so embarrassingly bad... :(

Back to Youtube.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Mesarthim on May 17, 2013, 07:46:38 AM
I'm well aware the fists are aimed. I'm just struggling to find a route. It's likely another case of simply over-dodging everything. I'm too frustrated to try it again however.

I also am heavily struggling with Adamant Helix (horrible I know) and Electrified Nyuudou. The rest of the attacks either have low attempts but seem too hard for me right now or have a lot of attempts but are nowhere near cleared (often only 1 photo before death).

Honestly I feel like this is more worthy of derp thread than rage thread it's so embarrassingly bad... :(

Back to Youtube.

I did this on the spot. Aya wouldn't be any different other than a longer recharge between barrages. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=28318) Ignoring my silly photo miss of a fist, but that's not the point.

If there was any Double spoiler stages (as hatate) that drove me mad it'd have been 9-1 (255 photos), 9-4 (300 photos), 10-2 (157), 10-4 (191, that was irritating as Hatate), 11-2 (151), 12-3 (185), 12-8 (124), and ??-9 (at a suprising 147).
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Reiko on May 19, 2013, 08:11:18 PM
3:43 in the third round ? In normal mode ? (http://imgur.com/4OZd5up)
Oh Eiki, why do you hate me ?  :fail:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zil on May 19, 2013, 08:22:18 PM
3:43 in the third round ? In normal mode ? (http://imgur.com/4OZd5up)
Oh Eiki, why do you hate me ?  :fail:
0_0

Do you have the replay?

Or perhaps a more important question, did you stop shooting for a prolonged period of time?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Reiko on May 19, 2013, 08:52:46 PM
Or perhaps a more important question, did you stop shooting for a prolonged period of time?
Nope, I did everything as usual. Maybe used quite a lot of charge attacks instead of regular shooting, but nothing special.
Replay is here, if you want. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=28371)

Lily White showed up at least three times (I think it was four, but not sure). Eiki was on her last hit since 2:25 or something.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zil on May 19, 2013, 10:15:38 PM
Well that's... bizarre. The only odd thing I notice during the match is that the second hit she took didn't bring her to the last hit point. Usually it does, and I'm actually not sure if I've ever seen it fail to do so, not counting unintentional hits.

Really interesting. I wonder how long she would have gone. Maybe 4 minutes, maybe forever? This could have some use for scoring if it could be reproduced. I'll have to fool around with it sometime, but for now I'm baffled.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on May 19, 2013, 10:24:03 PM
Well that's... bizarre. The only odd thing I notice during the match is that the second hit she took didn't bring her to the last hit point. Usually it does, and I'm actually not sure if I've ever seen it fail to do so, not counting unintentional hits.

Really interesting. I wonder how long she would have gone. Maybe 4 minutes, maybe forever? This could have some use for scoring if it could be reproduced. I'll have to fool around with it sometime, but for now I'm baffled.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=9bYlxqWRe3M#t=221s
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Wriggle on May 21, 2013, 07:29:58 PM
SA Hard no-bombs.

(http://i.imgur.com/1kOwEvk.jpg)

I promise, I won't NB outside of Extra again. Not soon. Unless someday I have the skill to do it on Lunatic.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on May 21, 2013, 07:56:08 PM
Ouch. :/

That's sad. Well, don't lose your courage. Try it again and see if you can't avoid fucking up Stage 5 this bad next time. I'm sure you can pull that off.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Oh on May 22, 2013, 01:05:14 AM
20:51   dxk   you know you usually dodge pwg without shooting?
20:51   dxk   well, I nmnb'd til pwg, cap'd it
20:51   dxk   and accidentally pressed x
20:51   dxk   fuck
20:51   dxk   meant to press z
20:53   dxk   my keyboard is over sensitive :<

Sucks, could have been 2/1-miss no bomb or no miss no bomb if I played 5/6 well.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Silent Harmony on May 22, 2013, 05:51:31 AM
Words cannot describe how much I hate the 10-12 continue system, especially for unlocking stages.

Oh you want to practice a stage with full lives? Beat it with only 3 first! Brilliant!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Mesarthim on May 23, 2013, 09:17:17 AM
(http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk26/Frelia/ShinkiSigh2_zps7b58ec73.png)

I really hate those. Hard just made it worse. Default lives.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: snowflake247 on May 23, 2013, 10:09:18 PM
Oh, son of a submariner...
So, I was playing MB Extra, doing relatively well, feeling pretty stoked since I usually suck at it, when my computer decides to have a battery issue and shut down on me. Right after I had captured Gathering Void "White" !!
Although I only captured it by using a laptop and tilting the screen way back to mess with the contrast. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Elysia on May 24, 2013, 01:48:54 AM
I really hate those. Hard just made it worse. Default lives.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYxfrGY_Mh8

BV
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Mesarthim on May 24, 2013, 03:22:36 AM
The more you know.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Space Flower on May 24, 2013, 09:19:28 PM
EoSD is going to give me an aneurysm. If and when I do make it to Stage 4 without dying, I just derp and lose 2-3 lives on without bombing or getting to Patchouli. Whenever I practice the stage I do flawlessly. Then I get there in a real run and it falls apart... I guess I should be patient, like I'll just get better as time goes or something? Those are my Normal-mode newbie blues, anyways. But I got into this series cause I thought Flandre was cute, so I just have to make it to her...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sage Ω (Ultima) on May 25, 2013, 12:09:35 AM
Almost perfected Stage 3 on Hard for Mountain of Faith, but Nitori wasn't having that shit and her last spell card killed me at the same time as I cleared but I didn't get the bonus.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on May 25, 2013, 01:01:05 AM
Stage 5 game over in Imperishable Night Lunatic No-bombs.

I don't recall when I last failed this hard. IN is so difficult when you are out of practice. Died lots of times to memo related things and only to few dodging patterns. It's not my skills that are off, it's just that I don't play it enough I think. Or maybe that's just something I'm telling myself to somehow making 4 deaths on Reisen and other similar things easier to deal with :3

In any case. Wow, this was bad. Luckily IRC romance can always help brighten up a bad mood!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Mesarthim on May 25, 2013, 06:31:52 AM
Threw myself at MoF Lunatic again... but this time I made it all the way to Kanako's second spellcard before game over'ing!

There's hope yet as I mess up or do not know how to do a loooot of those spellcards. I'm getting better at eyeballing Hina's second spellcard but I generally seem to get trapped during the latter part of the 2nd wave, dense stuff. Nitori is just  :derp: . First spellcard I just can't wrap my head around as I seemingly get trapped with no space or something so I'm not even bothering to pay attention to the shot bullets as I just bomb. Third spellcard is one I rarely face as I rarely do MoF Lunatic but the concept "seems" easy enough if I can deal with those aimed bullets.

Then comes Aya and her  :V . Every time I try the first spellcard I keep doing "I can do it... I can do it..." then screw up and die right before I try to bomb. 2nd nonspell is damned fast. So that's the famous peerless wind god spellcard that's been spoken of and wow was that ever dense. Hard usually annoys me enough. Last spellcard I've been 50/50, just a matter of reflex and paying attention.

AND THEN comes Sanae. I'd be surprised if I can even do one thing right on lunatic Sanae.

Kanako is the least of my problems if I have this much to improve upon.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sage Ω (Ultima) on May 25, 2013, 07:53:47 PM
Is it me or does Kanako's 2nd spell's bullets have big hitboxes?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: MTSranger on May 27, 2013, 01:13:47 AM
Fuck you Cirno (DDC). Am I the only one who can't read that card? ASDFDSFDSF
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Esper on May 27, 2013, 01:14:45 AM
DDC Stage 3 spellcards

Fucking DDC Stage 3 spellcards

:C I think ZUN switched the Extra boss with the Stage 3 boss

Fuck you Cirno (DDC). Am I the only one who can't read that card? ASDFDSFDSF

I had trouble with it at first. You just need some practice and then it'll be a piece of cake to you.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on May 27, 2013, 01:29:24 AM
think ZUN switched the Extra boss with the Stage 3 boss

I think I want to know what extra bosses you are fighting.

Quote
I had trouble with it at first. You just need some practice and then it'll be a piece of cake to you.

I am at 13/20. It's fairly clippy and if you get caught with jellybeans in your vicinity then it can be a bit mean.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Esper on May 27, 2013, 02:20:03 AM
I am at 13/20. It's fairly clippy and if you get caught with jellybeans in your vicinity then it can be a bit mean.

Hate to sound like a smartass, but I think "keep an eye on the jellybeans and try to dodge around or between the largest gap you can find" will have to suffice as a solution. Sorry.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on May 27, 2013, 07:41:36 AM
Jellybeans are 100% hitbox so there's really no surprise there. Bad Cirno, using jellybeans.

Just keep to one 'lane' for each wave while keeping the fuck away from the jellybeans. You shouldn't need to last more than two, two and a half waves.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Wriggle on May 27, 2013, 01:59:42 PM
She's a bit more clippy than usual for me because I barely use focus to keep her dropping power items. :V

Also, it's annoying how the Stage Practice doesn't work. I want to practice on the werewolf, I can only capture her boss spell.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on May 27, 2013, 03:02:55 PM
Shit...

I had a LNB run of DDC trial reach Kagerou with one 1+ 2/3 lives and I had died three times before that. Only once on the midboss spell and twice on Stage 2. Twice on Stage 2!!
I had a real shot at clearing this thing LNB with ReimuB but no. Have to be a shit-tier player who can't dodge for shit. Obviously.

Geez, Kagerou. I love your fight but damn you are bullying me. Can you become the next Shou? Do I need to make room in my heart for you as well?
... And what will happen with the rest of the games bosses. I am officially scared. In a good way. I'd rather have a hardass game I can't beat than a boring one I can beat!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Formless God on May 27, 2013, 03:22:53 PM
Quote
... And what will happen with the rest of the games bosses. I am officially scared. In a good way. I'd rather have a hardass game I can't beat than a boring one I can beat!
Stage 3 just reminded me how wonderful rape is.

How2goty DDC:
- buff stage 1 and 2
- fix shot types other than Reimu B you shouldn't be using them anyway
- make the remaining bosses harder than Kagerou so that I can drink the UFOsux race's tears one more time
- make the extra stage harder than lunatic
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on May 27, 2013, 03:30:52 PM
Imagine all that with spell practice.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on May 27, 2013, 04:01:46 PM
How2goty DDC:
- buff stage 1 and 2
- fix shot types other than Reimu B you shouldn't be using them anyway
- make the remaining bosses harder than Kagerou so that I can drink the UFOsux race's tears one more time
- make the extra stage harder than lunatic

In general I agree with this. Stage 1 and 2 as well as the Stage 2 boss needs some work to be an interesting survival challenge. Given that a lot of bombing is going on for scoring it probably won't make that much different in any case.

I too would like to savor some tears this time. In extension of that, I too would like an Extra stage that's actually hard to beat for once. Last three games I beat the extra stages in 2-3 tries and that's just not good enough!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Esper on May 27, 2013, 04:37:51 PM
Jellybeans are 100% hitbox so there's really no surprise there. Bad Cirno, using jellybeans.

Just keep to one 'lane' for each wave while keeping the fuck away from the jellybeans. You shouldn't need to last more than two, two and a half waves.

Is it odd that I'm not bad at grazefarming Cirno's spell?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on May 27, 2013, 04:45:04 PM
Is it odd that I'm not bad at grazefarming Cirno's spell?
Grazefarming how? I can think of one way and it's up there in superman-can't-supergraze-this-shit-tier.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Esper on May 27, 2013, 05:03:13 PM
Grazefarming how? I can think of one way and it's up there in superman-can't-supergraze-this-shit-tier.

As in I can consistently dodge the jellyshit and hold the midboss spell out to about a second from timeout. What I mean is the idea that I can go out of my way to graze this card.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: I have no name on May 27, 2013, 05:20:07 PM
Been a long time since I've had to just give up on something I've been trying for for a while.  But it happened, just now.

Mountain of Faith, lunatic, no bombs, something I've been trying for on and off (mostly on) for the past 4 months, at least...I can't do it.  At least, not now.  Why?  Because:
I perfect stage 1 maybe half the time >_>
Stage 2 follows maybe 30% of the time.  This level of consistency makes me not want to reset to bad mistakes in Stage 3 because it takes a while to get a no death run there.
Stage 3 always seems to have 2 deaths.  Hydro Camouflage is understandable, as are Nitori's 2nd and 3rd spells if I screw them up.  But the fairies after midboss Nitori?  Yeah, I die to those as often as Hydro Camouflage itself (60% of the time).
Stage 4 varies.  Can't really complain about that since I usually escape with 3 deaths at the worst, 4 if I derp Aya's last spell. (Momiji, random clipdeath, PWG, Aya's last sums up an average worst case scenario run, though I used to be consistent at Momiji).
Stage 5 is where I start to realize I can't actually do this right now.  I die to literally anything and everything.  I had a run which died 3 times on midboss Sanae to game over.  Dying on her is an average run even though she's not hard and I capture both patterns 95% of the time in stage practice.  I have died to the yellow spread streaming bullets at the end of the stage in a run.  I had a run which died on all 3 of Sanae's nonspells.  I had a run which entered Sanae with 3 lives and game overed on Moses Miracle.  and yet, when I go to Stage Practice immediately after failing, or as practice before attempts, I get either an NDNB or a 1DNB because I made a silly mistake somewhere.
Stage 6 is the final proof.  I tried about 50 times today to perfect the stage in practice.  I got to Kanako 7 times.  I captured her opener on 0 of those, tried dodging it without shooting for a bit after dying, kept dying horribly to it every few seconds.  Dodging that for me is pure luck, and I hate it.  and people say that it's easy, sure, I can see that if your reading speed is fast enough.  Mine's not.  How do you fix that?  At least all attempts that I didn't reset got everything from her first spell through her last nonspell, so it's not completely hopeless.  0 captures of Source of Rains.  Died once 4 times, twice, well, twice and 3 times on 1 attempt.  This spell has way too much RNG involved with the arrows, and you have to be very precise with bad luck...which I consistently got.  and to top it all off, Virtue of Wind God.  I used to capture it every time.  Now...I can't.  Simple as that.  Even though I was timing it out for further practice, only one attempt survived past the part where the timer starts ticking down-and that died at 91 left, which wouldn't have been a capture.  Add to that that I didn't feel like today was an off day for playing...what happened to me.

I hate giving up, but just by looking at where I die, I can't do it yet without thousands of tries, and I'd rather spend that time doing things that I know I'll get a good result out of, and not just "hey I reached Stage 6 with 0 lives AGAIN, let's game over to the stage or maybe, if we're lucky, Kanako's opener".
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: RNG on May 27, 2013, 08:00:04 PM
Is it odd that I'm not bad at grazefarming Cirno's spell?

Grazefarming that spell for, what, 200 graze is counterproductive. No amount of items you get at boosted item value will make up for the spellcard bonus you're losing.

Wakasagihime's first spellcard, on the other hand, is graze city.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on May 28, 2013, 12:59:07 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/TMdOBXL.png)

I am so fucking retarded, why haven't i been killed yet? Or at least sterilized so that my genes may never corrupt future generations with boundless retardation.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: RNG on May 28, 2013, 11:26:11 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/TMdOBXL.png)

I am so fucking retarded, why haven't i been killed yet? Or at least sterilized so that my genes may never corrupt future generations with boundless retardation.

I'd like you more if you stopped talking about what you want to put your dick in FYI.

Those records are much better than mine, chill out. Kagerou is a hard boss.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Validon98 on May 28, 2013, 11:31:02 PM
Agreed. I still haven't figured out her last spell. That's probably what's going to keep me from keeping a lot of resources when I go into Stage 4 in the full version, because seriously, what?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on May 28, 2013, 11:48:54 PM
Those records are much better than mine, chill out. Kagerou is a hard boss.

I am prone to depression for the time being so failing things due to bad reaction time or stupid decisions feel worse than they should. I am sorry. As for the records, they are all failures on the spells that matter. Stage 1 and 2 bosses I all captured blind and have captured almost consistently from then on. The records i wanted to show were the Stage 3 ones and they are pretty bad.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Esper on May 29, 2013, 01:47:38 AM
I'd like you more if you stopped talking about what you want to put your dick in FYI.

ಠ_ಠ'' Where the fuck did that come from?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Formless God on May 29, 2013, 02:42:07 AM
I am so fucking retarded, why haven't i been killed yet? Or at least sterilized so that my genes may never corrupt future generations with boundless retardation.
get on my level skrub

(http://imageshack.us/a/img211/8100/18353339.jpg)

Good to know I'm not the only one who couldn't do the midboss spell, though.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on May 29, 2013, 07:03:12 AM
Kagerou as a boss battle is making me repeat "dammit wolf" so frequently that my family are questioning what the hell I am doing.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Reiko on May 29, 2013, 06:10:19 PM
I've only given SA Lunatic a few hours of practice, and I already want to throw my computer through the window. Seems like an unending boring static clipdeath-party (with good music though). I think I'll just use ReimuC, bomb literally everything, call it a day and never come back.
It's weird how I can't really get into any game from MoF onwards...

Also, DDC trial decided to crash every time I try to launch it, which makes me sad (I want to play flamethrower-Marisa  :ohdear: ).
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: CyberAngel on May 29, 2013, 07:13:34 PM
Do you know what's the most infuriating part of UFO? It's not flashing UFO tokens never being the right color when they're near you. It's not clouds of items making bullets hard to see. It's not even the overall difficulty that can give trouble even on Easy. IT'S THOSE BLOODY BOSSES HUGGING SCREEN SIDES ALL THE DAMN TIME! While it doesn't apply to Byakuren, and with Shou, Murasa and even Nazrin it's not as bad and actually feels right, Ichirin and Kogasa are insufferable. Their attacks when they do that are too limiting to move after them swiftly, and if you don't have a high-leveled homing or wide shot, you're at their whimsy. And they're not willing to get closer most of the time. That just makes me mad and wanting to just shout "Get back here, you coward!" at them. Well, there is one way to get back at them, of course. BOMBAAAAA!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Esper on May 29, 2013, 08:26:33 PM
Do you know what's the most infuriating part of UFO? It's not flashing UFO tokens never being the right color when they're near you. It's not clouds of items making bullets hard to see. It's not even the overall difficulty that can give trouble even on Easy. IT'S THOSE BLOODY BOSSES HUGGING SCREEN SIDES ALL THE DAMN TIME! While it doesn't apply to Byakuren, and with Shou, Murasa and even Nazrin it's not as bad and actually feels right, Ichirin and Kogasa are insufferable. Their attacks when they do that are too limiting to move after them swiftly, and if you don't have a high-leveled homing or wide shot, you're at their whimsy. And they're not willing to get closer most of the time. That just makes me mad and wanting to just shout "Get back here, you coward!" at them. Well, there is one way to get back at them, of course. BOMBAAAAA!

Oh fucking shit I know how you feel. The only reason I don't scream my head off about it is that I never really notice it enough as a long-term to justify making a post about it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Makedounia on May 29, 2013, 10:06:23 PM
I hate Suwako! If I'll ever clear this stage, that'll be the last fucking time I'll play it. Every other extra boss I've played has been at least a little bit enjoyable, but this... FUCK!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Oh on May 29, 2013, 11:21:51 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/59HzMqP.jpg)

Lesson: don't play Touhou while half asleep.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on May 30, 2013, 01:06:44 AM
Ichirin and Kogasa are insufferable. Their attacks when they do that are too limiting to move after them swiftly, and if you don't have a high-leveled homing or wide shot, you're at their whimsy.

Dude, what? Kogasa might move randomly around but Ichirin mostly doesn't move around at all or moves in fixed ways. Her first spellcard, she moves in a fixed way. Second spellcard, she's quite restricted as to where she can move, always around the center. Third, she doesn't move at all. Unless you are trying to do her supergraze spots, I have no clue what you are complaining about. There are bosses who do that random movement thing far worse.



Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Esper on May 30, 2013, 01:24:02 AM
I hate Suwako! If I'll ever clear this stage, that'll be the last fucking time I'll play it. Every other extra boss I've played has been at least a little bit enjoyable, but this... FUCK!

What cards give you problems? Look at a guide video for something or just bomb it. Remember that you are playing Mountain of Faith, also known as X Key: The Game
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Limian on May 30, 2013, 01:34:48 AM
Dude, what? Kogasa might move randomly around but Ichirin mostly doesn't move around at all or moves in fixed ways. Her first spellcard, she moves in a fixed way. Second spellcard, she's quite restricted as to where she can move, always around the center. Third, she doesn't move at all. Unless you are trying to do her supergraze spots, I have no clue what you are complaining about. There are bosses who do that random movement thing far worse.
I thought PSM, Sinkable Vortex and Aura of Justice are the biggest three offenders in terms of "WHERE ARE YOU GOING" spells.

I hate Suwako! If I'll ever clear this stage, that'll be the last fucking time I'll play it. Every other extra boss I've played has been at least a little bit enjoyable, but this... FUCK!
Oh you know, I didn't like Suwako's battle either but I actually find her pretty fun to replay despite her spells being not that interesting. I still don't think she's a top-notch ex boss, but I like her battle regardless (except her first two spells urgh).
You'll probably replay her sooner or later anyway. :V

More on-topic, I have gotten completely terrible at DDC it seems. After three first-try normal clears with the A types and another first-try hard ReimuB clear, I have increasingly much trouble with MarisaB (20 attempts?), SakuyaB (more) and ReimuA (also more). What the hell is up with me, man. Stage 3 is not that hard.
The worst thing about my ReimuA runs is that I perfected stage 2 (and 1 of course) on my first attempt, yet now I seem to do terribly at it. WHAT THE HELL MAN
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sage Ω (Ultima) on May 30, 2013, 02:25:13 AM
DDC brought back suicide bullets... FUCK!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Validon98 on May 30, 2013, 02:32:48 AM
It did? Huh. Then again, I haven't really played much on Lunatic ever, so yeah. Of course, suicide bullets were in Fairy Wars. And there were a couple enemies in UFO Stage 2 that had weird suicide bullets.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Esper on May 30, 2013, 03:04:00 AM
DDC brought back suicide bullets... FUCK!

Is streaming really that troublesome? I'm not trying to be snappy, but seriously, it's just streaming. With practice, you can multitask between streaming and dodging on-hand.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zil on May 30, 2013, 05:33:33 AM
Bullshit. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMUje9SWKto&feature=youtu.be)

And I almost got a no-bomb run with Ellen. Ignore what I said before about her being harder than Chiyuri. I underestimated her EX attacks.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Tsym on May 30, 2013, 06:06:17 AM
Wow. Got to SA stage 5 in a No Bomb run with 4 extra lives. Lost 3 to the opening section after the streaming fairies because I didn't move far enough to the right to kill that one orb, and I got completely screwed on that segment because of it. So stupid. I was so sure I would have gotten it that time...

Also in other games: Byakuren's 2nd non-spell is just plain ridiculous. I just don't understand those stupid lasers.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zil on May 30, 2013, 09:02:22 AM
ass (http://i.imgur.com/Btetl2G.jpg)
ass (http://i.imgur.com/uEGubDk.jpg)
ass (http://i.imgur.com/suYBem2.jpg)
ass (http://i.imgur.com/jLF4CbA.jpg)
ass (http://i.imgur.com/gtimHN5.jpg)
ass (http://i.imgur.com/HV2Psa5.jpg)
ass (http://i.imgur.com/ogX90uu.jpg)
ass (http://i.imgur.com/M076p8V.jpg)
ass (http://i.imgur.com/OgPyLTR.jpg)

Number of times she used something other than that: 18 (not counting things used during a bomb)
She has 5 moves to choose from.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: CyberAngel on May 30, 2013, 03:59:52 PM
Dude, what? Kogasa might move randomly around but Ichirin mostly doesn't move around at all or moves in fixed ways. Her first spellcard, she moves in a fixed way. Second spellcard, she's quite restricted as to where she can move, always around the center. Third, she doesn't move at all. Unless you are trying to do her supergraze spots, I have no clue what you are complaining about. There are bosses who do that random movement thing far worse.

It's their nonspells that give me the most trouble. I'm not the best player, of course, but I never had this problem as bad as this with any other boss in any other Touhou game.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sage Ω (Ultima) on May 30, 2013, 09:11:02 PM
Is streaming really that troublesome? I'm not trying to be snappy, but seriously, it's just streaming. With practice, you can multitask between streaming and dodging on-hand.

I know but it messes with your score especially in this game since POC will be the main gimmick towards high scores and staying alive and you'll miss point and power items streaming suicide bullets. Normally I don't have a problem with this because usually streaming is apart of the stage pattern when you need to use it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Blue on May 31, 2013, 05:02:05 AM
SA Normal 1cc ReimuA attempt. Went into Stage 6 with 7 lives. Died on the LAST BULLET of Blazing Wheel, borderhacked right into a bullet while streaming, ended up with a game over on Artificial Sun after dying at least 4 times through keyboard derp. This was after my best Stage 5 run ever, I only died 3 times in the entire game before Stage 6.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: an unmatched sock on June 02, 2013, 04:39:42 AM
For the past hour now I've been trying to beat Byakuren in UFO. Only on Stage 6. Because I continued. I learned how to perfect each of her attack, but die CONSTANTLY due to carelessness in the beginning of the stage, idiotic clipping, or those goddamned curvy lasers in Light Maelstrom. I've gotten Flying Fantastica down to about a quarter health before dying a few times now.

WHY CAN'T I JUST BEAT HER SO I CAN DO PRACTICE STAGE GODDAMMIT

Two lives in this system of life gaining is NOT enough!

I would ragequit, but then I would have to fight aaalllll the way back here. And my god do I hate curved lasers. All of them.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Kingault on June 02, 2013, 04:52:45 AM
Finally decided to beat IN on Normal on Friday.
Had 5-6 lives in reserve at the start of Stage 4, and zero at the end.
Guess I should practice on Easy, huh?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: an unmatched sock on June 02, 2013, 05:00:46 AM
Scratch my complaint. I watched a video of it, then managed (after about five tries, eight if you count the suicides due to stupid deaths) to beat Byakuren with no lives and no bombs. Now if only I could perfect stages 4 and 5 to make it up to Stage 6 with a few lives to spare...beating Byakuren with only 3 lives sucks.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Elysia on June 02, 2013, 09:30:05 AM
Wow, Mikoto, you are really getting on my nerves.

I finally managed to work out a path for the first wave (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iV4aiZfInY) of Reimu's survival card, and then the second wave comes along and completely kicks my ass.

Seriously, if someone could work out a path for the second wave, I'd be very appreciative. Feel free to steal my first wave path, it's why I recorded and linked it here.

I just do not have the patience for this card.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: chirpy13 on June 02, 2013, 02:42:25 PM
Shinki. (http://www.twitch.tv/chirpy13/c/2367386)  That final man...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Yatakarasu on June 03, 2013, 07:12:42 AM
Bah! I like how I can go into stage 5 of SA (hard) with two lives and still die before the boss fight.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Reiko on June 04, 2013, 06:57:07 PM
Getting gameovers in DDC stage 1 on a regular basis.
I guess it's better to laugh about it. Actually it's a good thing, it spares me this awful stage 3.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: ふねん1 on June 04, 2013, 09:06:06 PM
Man, DDC Cirno is really giving me fits right now. I mean sure, she's harder than the average Stage 1 midboss and my aggressive approach probably doesn't help, but I'm still making plenty of mistakes on her that I shouldn't be. Might be an effect of my massive layoff, who knows.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sage Ω (Ultima) on June 07, 2013, 10:59:22 PM
I've been trying to clear Mamizou's Wild Desert Island card. And after over 60 tries I finally clear it and die at the same time.

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=28655
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: chirpy13 on June 08, 2013, 03:59:58 AM
Life - 891/18000 (http://i.imgur.com/Uzsvchg.png).  3 hours of attempts later, still nope.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Oh on June 09, 2013, 01:12:33 AM
well this sucks... (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=28676)
Dying to Saruta Cross. Well just blame my nerves.
Dying to that stage 5 streaming. I want to kill myself.
Dying to Source of Rains. Why did I think rushing through there was a good idea? I could have easily fit through those arrowheads.
Very disappointing later stages. I think I played for more than 3 hours restarting momiji.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Reiko on June 09, 2013, 09:22:38 AM
Why Flandre, why ? (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=28680)

I was trying some EoSD Extra no-bombs. One death to Royal Flare. Perfected Flandre until ATWTBN, where I lost TWO lives, both in the stupidest way. QED finished me off, because it's been ages since I saw this spell. Game over with like 5% of the lifebar remaining.
This run should have been the one...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Blue on June 10, 2013, 06:03:03 AM
UFO 1cc attempt with ReimuA. First time with the shot type. After countless restarts because of derp deaths, UFO derp, or both in stage 1 or 2, I finally get a run beyond that. I made it to stage 6 with 5 lives. Lost all of them in stupid ways to Byakuren, ending with two, no bombs used, on Devil's Recitation. WHY. JUST WHY. I ALREADY DID THIS WITH REIMUB THREE HOURS AGO, WHY CAN'T I DO IT NOW? Maybe it has something to do with the fact that it's 11:00 in my time zone right now. Yeah, I should probably get some sleep...

Oh yeah, and my down key got stuck during Byakuren's second spell(I forgot what it's called), so I spent 2 minutes trying to fix that...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Oh on June 10, 2013, 09:21:35 PM
died to nitori, PWG, and VoWG

I'm stupid for not restarting, but it gets tiring after a while. Silly VoWG death on an easy wave.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Blue on June 11, 2013, 07:23:47 AM
Well, stuff from today's attempt on UFO Normal w/ ReimuA...

-Died 2 or 3 times BEFORE Murasa, usual amount of Stage 5 deaths

Went to Byakuren with 3 lives in stock, so 4 lives.

-Byakuren's first spell:Why are the pink bullets making my eyes derp...(1 death, I think with 1 or 2 bombs)

-Byakuren's third non:I should have been able to see where those bullet lines were going...(1 death)

-Devil's Recitation:I can capture this, I can capture this, I have no bombs left...WHERE DID THAT SNOWBALL BULLET COME FROM THERE WERE 5 PIXELS LEFT IN THE CARD(1 death)

-Air Scroll:Got no lives in stock...let's see if I can cap this...Oh shoot, I need to bomb WAIT I DIED. GREAT.

On the bright side, if this pattern continues I'll get to Flying Fantastica or clear the next attempt.

Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on June 11, 2013, 11:15:38 AM
Almost beat Komachi (2-1) with Marisa.

Almost. 3:11 not enough. Need to learn how to spam.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sakurei on June 11, 2013, 02:09:52 PM
I suck. and I hate myself for it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sage Ω (Ultima) on June 11, 2013, 11:00:51 PM
Flying Fantastica cost me another 1CC... Again....

Why must I suck soo much at UFO?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Space Flower on June 12, 2013, 02:57:23 AM
Kind of annoyed with the continue system in the middle Touhous. Play one stage over and over until I get it? Yeah, that's already covered under stage practice. I guess that's offset by how easy the bomb system makes it to go the first four stages of these games without dying once you get it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Validon98 on June 12, 2013, 03:03:01 AM
Guess I'm not getting that second MoF Extra clear tonight. I swear, just a couple more seconds on the last spell and I would have had it. But nope, I derp into a bullet instead. That could have been avoided if I wasn't such an idiot on Moriya's Iron Rings (I can capture that card, I just derped really badly on it this time) along with All the other idiotic derps I made in this stage. ReimuB's still pretty good, though.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Mesarthim on June 12, 2013, 05:28:21 AM
Guess I'm not getting that second MoF Extra clear tonight. I swear, just a couple more seconds on the last spell and I would have had it. But nope, I derp into a bullet instead. That could have been avoided if I wasn't such an idiot on Moriya's Iron Rings (I can capture that card, I just derped really badly on it this time) along with All the other idiotic derps I made in this stage. ReimuB's still pretty good, though.

Due to the nature of the stage I usually just prefer Reimu A, even if B has more firepower. After reading this just now I decided to go do Suwako once more for the fun of it. I had two deaths. One derp on Iron rings (seriously, I honestly did not physically see what I rammed and I wasn't touching the screen's edge, right before the bullets faded it might've been remnants of the white rings). Second death was kind of inevitable as I am bad at the first time out in the last 1/3 or 1/4 of it (and I usually get there with little to no power). First few times I did her final card it was annoying but now I find it extremely easy, or among the easiest of final boss cards, be it a final main story or other extra bosses.

I am however surprised Froggy Braves the Elements didn't clip me. I had 1.50 power and bombed once near the beginning. Could've had 4 lives remaining!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: ふねん1 on June 12, 2013, 04:52:01 PM
Did a DDC pseudo-scorerun with Reimu B on Lunatic that managed to clear. Yet I only scored 9 million higher than my first 1cc. Not sure how much of a rage it is since I knew dying so much on Sekibanki and Kagerou would hurt my score, but it still affected it much more than I thought it would.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: TrueShadow on June 12, 2013, 05:32:33 PM
...Can I just say UFO collection is the biggest bullcrap of a game mechanic ever? "Oh, you're going to summon a red UFO for that extra life you desperately need? Let me turn blue the moment you have a chance to collect me."
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Blue on June 12, 2013, 05:52:32 PM
...Can I just say UFO collection is the biggest bullcrap of a game mechanic ever? "Oh, you're going to summon a red UFO for that extra life you desperately need? Let me turn blue the moment you have a chance to collect me."
You have no idea how many times I've restarted a run because of that. And I only do that if it happens in Stage 1 or 2.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: RegretDesi on June 13, 2013, 08:08:44 AM
"Running into Yuyuko's hitbox" is practically a meme between my friends due to how often I do it. Fucking spirits.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Makedounia on June 13, 2013, 09:40:37 PM
I tried MoF extra stage. I hadn't played it for a while and I knew I wouldn't clear it. I somehow made it to Suwako's last spellcard with 3.00 power and two lives left. I knew something silly was going to happen... Then it happened: I bumped into the first wave of bullets. I lost my last life when Suwako had about one tenth of her health left.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: an unmatched sock on June 13, 2013, 10:31:32 PM
I must be an honest person, since I always lose my last life to Mokou's "Honest Man's Death". I don't know whether to rage or feel complimented.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Blue on June 14, 2013, 03:27:43 AM
I lost a UFO Normal 1cc with MarisaA because my mom and sister were talking incredibly loudly and being annoying for ABSOLUTELY NO REASON. Especially my mom, she's making exclamations about everything that's been happening in the NBA Finals game that's going on right now. I could actually hear them through the game music, and I had both of my earbuds on. Seriously, I DIED TWICE ON BYAKUREN'S FIRST SPELL. WHAT. I already knew it was going to be a close run, but those deaths ensured that I'd game over. I probably would have cleared, too. I game overed when Air Scroll had a quarter of its health left.

EDIT: And they're not stopping, even after I told them to be quiet. This is not going to be a good night for Touhou...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Juubi Neion on June 14, 2013, 06:45:08 AM
Attempt to capture Blazing Star.
Get tagged at the last second by a star from above, coming straight at you.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Juubi Neion on June 14, 2013, 08:23:16 PM
"Running into Yuyuko's hitbox" is practically a meme between my friends due to how often I do it. Fucking spirits.
Well if you could just find the ghost spot...  ;)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on June 15, 2013, 02:58:57 PM
<BT> oh.. my god
<BT> missed my 100m remilia to a death on thousand needle mountain
<BT> i knew this would happen but
<BT> why
<BT> it was the most stupid death imaginable
<BT> death to lone stray needle
<BT> wasn't even hidden by anything
<BT> and i wasn't being confined in a tight space
<BT> just, hi there bullet can i hug you
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: MTSranger on June 17, 2013, 11:32:05 PM
VoWG on average - 3MNB timeout.
Capture rate, however...

(http://puu.sh/3i841.jpg)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: ふねん1 on June 18, 2013, 11:57:55 PM
It's starting to sink in just how far I've regressed after all this time. I know I don't play often enough anymore to really fix that, but still, it sucks to see myself playing "not like myself".
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Tsym on June 20, 2013, 07:08:25 AM
I never thought I'd say it, but damn TD is kicking my ass. It's just all those little mistakes that continue building up. Screwing up on any one of Kyouko's cards, getting cross-eyed for just a millisecond on one of Yoshika's patterns, or being dumb on stage 4. I feel as though these sections shouldn't be killing me, but they are, and it's annoying. This is like my MoF no bomb attempts all over again. So many dumb mistakes on the easier stuff that ends up nuking my run.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on June 20, 2013, 03:59:14 PM
did you seriously give a character with principally homing shot-types a melee-type bomb?

god damn it zun
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sage Ω (Ultima) on June 20, 2013, 04:34:28 PM
did you seriously give a character with principally homing shot-types a melee-type bomb?

god damn it zun


Reimu in DDC?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: TrueShadow on June 20, 2013, 04:53:30 PM
SO CLOSE TO Easy 1cc UFO!!! Died to Flying Fantastica. Yeah, ezmodo...but still so frustrating!! Doing extremely well on Stage 1-4, then dying 4 times on Shou, and finished off by miscalculating Byakuren's bullet hitboxes. I hate that nonspell when she starts flying all around the screen.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on June 20, 2013, 04:58:14 PM
Reimu in DDC?

DDC Lunatic runs with Reimu keep failing because my bombs only affect the fourth of the screen immediately above my character >_>

Well, Reimu A anyway.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Tsym on June 22, 2013, 07:27:56 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/2Nm2tzV.jpg)
... No words.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Nindella on June 22, 2013, 03:45:50 PM
Had a couple of attempts at NBing EoSD looney, hehe, got a MarisaA to stage 6 spam before silly deathing there~

Tried again and got a ReimuB run to Young Demon Lord (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=28955) before recalling that I've never captured this spell on lunatic... :smokedcheese: 

I almost timed out Eternal meek too, poop  :derp:


Edit: With regards to SA, I've cranked up the time I've spent on only NMNBing attempts (so ignoring the scoring thingys~) by another 30 or so hours the past few days, dozens of runs ending from DBDB to Orin, A TON ending somewhere silly on stage 3 (I once had 4 runs in a row die on her bubble thingy!  hahahaha.... that's really sad  :wat:)
Every restart is to something I can dodge, but I move sillily (I was sure that's a word  :ohdear:) to get some extra graze or do something fancy and mess up, it's really not good, hmph...

hmph hmph hmph hmph hmph.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zork787 on June 22, 2013, 04:19:24 PM
...................you know something is wrong when SUWAKO gives you trouble.....

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=28957
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: KuroArashi100 on June 23, 2013, 05:07:00 PM
I was playing TD with Youmu on Normal and kept dying in stage 6, starting the stage with 5 lives, and ending with 1.
While having 1lc'd the game thrice with the other characters.
It made me somewhat... unhappy.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: an unmatched sock on June 23, 2013, 09:26:35 PM
So, I've been trying Subterranean Animism again for a 1cc Reimu/Yukari.

I got to Orin with 6 extra lives. I even captured her midboss spellcard and gained an extra life in the battle.

I got to Stage 6 with 2 extra lives, which I lost in the stage itself in really stupid maneuvers. Needless to say, I didn't beat Utsuho.

Perhaps if I didn't make those 2 mistakes against Satori, I might have made it.

Orin is still my bane in SA. Constantly continuing to try and unlock the stage for practice sucks too. Ugh.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Eric on June 24, 2013, 02:10:16 AM
Been doing a few MS Lunatic 1ccs to hopefully get better and start playing for score, but I keep derping at Mai of all characters...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Blue on June 24, 2013, 04:40:14 AM
So let's see...trying to finish up UFO Normal with a MarisaB 1cc.

Went to Stage 5 with 8 lives, around normal for me. Went into the Shou fight with 5.

Somehow capped all of Shou's spells but the first(gained a life because I had 4 life pieces), then I decided to die twice in Stage 6.

I might have been able to clear Byakuren, but I had a clipdeath on her second spell. Then I died again because I thought she had low enough health left in that spell to warrant a rush/PoC during the invincibility period.

Turns out, MarisaB apparently doesn't do enough damage for that to be possible. Game overed to Air Scroll.


...Did I mention that I died to a bullet hidden inside a life piece during Stage 6?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Andrew on June 24, 2013, 05:05:04 AM
Mountain of Faith has just become my least favourite game in the series. I've only played it for 2 days, and I've already somehow managed to die with bombs in stock more times than in every other goddamn game combined. Many of these deaths were in situations that seemed completely trivial to dodge through. I've lost count of the times I've gotten clipped by Kanako's attacks alone. I swear, even in EoSD I never have that many clipdeaths. And I'm especially sick of dying with 3-5 power on attacks that I was able to capture on my first attempt.

I've also had some annoying glitches happen too. I've had the game crash multiple times while trying to view replays, and have had to redo a normal 1cc to unlock Extra because my first one didn't save for whatever reason.

Now that I've gotten my Hard 1cc and Extra clear over with (which, fortunately were easy, thanks to the game's broken bombing system), I never want to touch this game again. Virtue of Wind God is like the only part of the entire game that I enjoy. It's fun, it's not cheap, the hard mode version is just the right difficulty for me, and I can at least usually tell when I need to bomb it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: CyberAngel on June 24, 2013, 03:26:30 PM
Playing around with IN Spell Practice. Lost count of how many spellcards are easier on Hard than on Normal. That, and all those times when you lose just because RNG decided it hates you. What a fun game this is. In a frustrating, not-fun-at-all way.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Bang Jan on June 25, 2013, 07:06:53 PM
EOSD easy perfect pacifist run lost at the last second of Marionette!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Ranko Hoshino on June 26, 2013, 03:27:53 AM
EOSD easy perfect pacifist run lost at the last second of Marionette!
I'm pretty sure I've been there as well. It's frustrating when that kind of thing happens.  :wat:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Szayelaporro Granz on June 27, 2013, 06:39:16 PM
I'm trying to 1cc PCB on normal in the last few days and I tend to lose a live at stage 2 and reset because I usually try to score a bit at early stages but oh well, scoring has always been my weakest point. I've played Touhou for nearly a year and I haven't 1cc every game on normal yet...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Blue on June 27, 2013, 11:29:45 PM
Almost cleared Mokou. I made it about 2/3 through Hourai Doll before dying.

It probably would have been a clear, too, if I had actually made it to Fujiyama Volcano before. It was my first time, and I had absolutely no idea how to do it.

Also, I somehow almost managed to stream the nonspell before Fujiyama Volcano.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: FamilyTeam on June 29, 2013, 06:45:27 PM
I was playing my worst enemy: TH13 Ten Desires. I was trying to 1cc it on Normal for the 5th time this week. I Had 8 Bombs and 5 FREAKIN lives at the start of level 5. I generally don't lose a single life on that stage. Then, towards the end of it, a fireball spawnS DIRECTLY into my hitbox and kills me. Now 4 lives left.
Then Futo kills me with a bullet that came from offscreen. 3 Lives.
I get walled at mid Level 6. 2 Lives.
I get walled again but this time I have time to press the bomb button. I hammer the damn thing and no bomb comes out. 1 life left.
And then by some kind of miracle, I get to Miko's penultimate spell on my last life while I can't use bombs. My efforts were futile tough. Died on it, 1cc goes down the drain.
So I go to options, (after having a rage outburst of course) and check key config. I had accidentaly remapped the bomb button to button 11, or R3. :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Tsym on July 01, 2013, 01:50:49 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/e81BUBg.jpg)
Wow god damn it. I died on Miko's second and third non-spell and lost this NBNT run. So annoyed. So close... I don't even know what to say. This is totally doable, but all the little mistakes I make are just killing me. And Kyouko is so rage worthy. I mean she's not Kogasa level difficulty, but her patterns just make me tense up for whatever reason. Yoshika though? I feel as though I almost breeze right past her even though she should be killing me. I don't understand how this game screws with my expectations so much. Ugh.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: RegretDesi on July 02, 2013, 09:44:13 AM
>Play SA for the first time in a while
>Beat Orin no problem, stream through Stage 6, almost 1cc eajimodo
>Heaven and Earth Whatever the Fuck
>Die to snowball in whatever the hell the black hole sun spellcard is called.
>FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Elysia on July 03, 2013, 12:49:41 AM
(http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad256/Malkyrian/bs.png)

Naturally, I perfected everything else.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Limian on July 03, 2013, 01:47:00 AM
For what it's worth, here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZWv9-Z2XJ8&t=1m10s)'s a vid of someone capturing the attack.
It's super impressive that you've got down Gathering Void White like that, btw.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: an unmatched sock on July 03, 2013, 02:04:28 AM
Again, with trying to 1cc SA with ReimuA. And again, I got up to Orin with about 6 or 7 lives. I got to stage 6 with 1 extra life. WHY IS THAT CAT SO GODDAMNED HARD?!

Utsuho is so much easier! I got up to Heaven and Hell Meltdown before I lost 2 lives! Yet I lose so many to that cat, it makes Stage 6 that much harder! If she wasn't such a problem, this would have been a 1cc for sure. Ugh.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on July 03, 2013, 03:52:37 PM
Scored 1.2b on Mountain of Faith Easy on a No-miss full spellcard capture run. Might as well come clean about this little abomination.

I know I can't expect to score very well in the game given that my paths only apply for Lunatic as well as being rusty but the thing that angered me was that I was stupid enough to fucking attempt this without having a route ready. Why the fuck did i do that? Oh how i wish I could scroll time back and undo this.

Now I'll have to either improve the run or deal with this abomination forever. Neither sounds attractive. Fuck that was stupid.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: RegretDesi on July 04, 2013, 11:21:17 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/LhC4rWq.jpg)
I agree entirely, unmatched sock.

EDIT: Just noticed that the number of pictures taken is the same as the time. My OCD approves.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: an unmatched sock on July 04, 2013, 11:52:29 PM
I spend so long trying the Extra stage with MarisaB, and I never get past Koishi's first card.

First try with Reimu, who was just unlocked?

Sliver of health left on the second spellcard's health bar, farther than I've ever gotten with Marisa.

WHY DOES IT DO THIS. WHAT WAS I DOING WRONG.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: MewMewHeart on July 05, 2013, 12:12:34 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/LhC4rWq.jpg)
I agree entirely, unmatched sock.

EDIT: Just noticed that the number of pictures taken is the same as the time. My OCD approves.
Orin and Okuu are the bane of me in DS, case and point.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Karisa on July 05, 2013, 02:12:06 AM
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee487/KarisaMirisame/kanako-fail-the-nth.png)

I guess I'll post this here too.

Rammed straight-on by an arrowhead while trying to stay under Kanako for spell bonus purposes, costing me a potential 1.48m. That really shouldn't have happened. While my spell history may seem low, I've been consistent at capturing this ever since deciding to stream slowly instead of trying to restream repeatedly like on higher difficulties.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: an unmatched sock on July 05, 2013, 10:38:23 PM
I don't know what came over me, but I decided to try another Normal 1cc of UFO. I actually got up to Byakuren before being clip-death'd by Omen in Purple Mist.

That being said, I had 7 lives going into Stage 4. I had 2 leaving it. I'm fine with the two or three stage deaths, since I just got more resources from the stage anyway. Murasa, however... Clipdeath on her first nonspell (which was shameful), anchor'd on first spell, clipped in Deep Vortex, clipped on last nonspell (I think), died on that last time-out spell. That or I died twice there. I'm not fast enough to deathbomb, apparently.

Shou gave me less trouble than Murasa. WHY.

Also, this time I tried with SanaeA, and it sorta feels like I'm not doing something right...I can't quite place it, though. Strange.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Blue on July 06, 2013, 06:23:13 AM
I think playing UFO has made all my SA skills(or what passes for them) go down the drain. I could blame it on my not being used to ReimuC, but that doesn't explain why I can't do well with MarisaC. I've been restarting so much that I haven't even gotten to do an actual attempt. I just want to get to Stage 4 without too much stupidity...

Stupid deaths in stages 1 and 2, stupid deaths EVERYWHERE.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: CyberAngel on July 06, 2013, 02:26:27 PM
Lost a Light Sign "Guse Flash" capture to a bullet that took its time to disappear when Miko was already dead. Fancy effects are all fine and dandy RIGHT UNTIL THEY START TO INTERFERE WITH GAMEPLAY DAMMITALL >:(
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: cactu on July 07, 2013, 02:17:34 AM
Fuck, I got another 2MNB. I died on Killing Doll like a dumbass, and then Scarlet Gensokyo decided to throw me a bullshit wall and kill me with no way out. ;_;
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Mino ☆ on July 07, 2013, 02:30:24 AM
Fuck, I got another 2MNB. I died on Killing Doll like a dumbass, and then Scarlet Gensokyo decided to throw me a bullshit wall and kill me with no way out. ;_;

Who would have thought that there would be days when a 2 Miss No Bomb EoSD LNB was something to rage about!

Nah, jk, keep trying. You're almost there.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zork787 on July 07, 2013, 02:54:43 AM
You know something, I'm seriously starting to think Zun made Fairy Wars as bullshittingly difficult as possible, JUST for a laugh.... I don't even understand how people can even come CLOSE to 1CCing normal, let alone Hard or Lunatic!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Mino ☆ on July 07, 2013, 03:00:08 AM
You know something, I'm seriously starting to think Zun made Fairy Wars as bullshittingly difficult as possible, JUST for a laugh.... I don't even understand how people can even come CLOSE to 1CCing normal, let alone Hard or Lunatic!

You eventually get used to it, and develop freeze routes. It becomes surprisingly fun once you get the hang of it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: I have no name on July 07, 2013, 03:19:14 AM
Yeah, GFW is just one of those games that has a steep difficulty curve.  Just keep playing and you get a feel for how to freeze things, and then it becomes really fun, easily one of the best Touhou games.  Until you get the hang of it though, it's brutally difficult.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Mordon on July 07, 2013, 04:52:52 AM
Like I said on the Best-to-Worst-Games topic, it took me like 7 continues to finish normal mode the first times I tried it, and I already was 1ccing some hards. I thought it was ridiculously hard and stupid too, but a few days later I was already tackling Hard routes. Higher difficulties actually don't get that much harder because it has more bullets and more bullets means more whole-screen freezing and more resources. Of course it IS harder overall, but some aspects become easier to compensate.

I think a lot of people don't give GFW the merit it deserves because they don't play enough to learn how it should be played. Sometimes you have to dodge a wave without freezing and leave the freeze for a harder part, and sometimes you can't afford to wait until 100% charge to freeze again or you'll be left defenseless against a bullet wall. The game is incredibly fun once you learn how deal with things properly.

@topic
My rage is almost all condensed in UFO and SA. Ufos that change color and/or go away just as I'm about to collect them, big ufos that simply don't die and are shielded by 12312 enemies, life and bomb parts that drop out of my reach, and so on. In SA I'm always out of power due to bombing and bosses LOVE to kill me or force me to bomb when they have no health left, because they take very long to kill with low power.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Tsym on July 07, 2013, 04:53:08 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/mgVgsoa.jpg)
The result of a total meltdown on stage 5. Deaths to midboss card, final section, and twice on Iwafune. The kicker is of course that I would have perfected stage 4 in this run if I didn't ram into a bullet as Seiga's midboss non-spell was about to end.

I swear that attempting a NBNT of this game is showcasing what's wrong with me as a shmup player: Poor reflexes and nerves. But the worst part is of course that these are precisely the two things that I find it hard to improve upon/find it hard to see improvement on. It's annoying is what it is.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: RegretDesi on July 07, 2013, 07:04:18 AM
Trying to 1cc laggy Marine Benefit on Easy. I was in the middle of stage 4, in the POC, when suddenly a fairy moving faster than Youmu sliced me in half. Still don't understand.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: astroninja1 on July 07, 2013, 08:21:29 AM
this thread makes me feel inferior since i cant even make it past 3rd stages  of EoSD. PCB, and IN without continues
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: RegretDesi on July 07, 2013, 08:23:20 AM
this thread makes me feel inferior since i cant even make it past 3rd stages  of EoSD. PCB, and IN without continues
I was there once. Keep trying, you'll get it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Mino ☆ on July 08, 2013, 08:36:01 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOrZARzCYAAOTr0.png:large)

Fate is a funny thing.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Blue on July 10, 2013, 01:42:13 AM
Well, I just attempted an IN Hard Border Team 1cc for the first time.

I died more to Marisa than anyone else. Marisa, why is bullet spam. Why.

I somehow managed to make it to Fire Rat's Robe though. Despite having no lives at the start of the Kaguya fight.

Also, I died to Galaxy in a Pot. That takes skill.

Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: MewMewHeart on July 10, 2013, 02:04:21 AM
Yoshika, Seiga, and Futo are the bane of me on TD.

WRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRY!!!!!

(╯?□?)╯︵ ┻━┻
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Karisa on July 11, 2013, 02:58:44 AM
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee487/KarisaMirisame/1307101937.png)

Seriously, how did I die there of all places? This wasn't even my first attempt of the day (previous run got a 39m capture here), so I can't attribute it to readjusting to PCB.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: RegretDesi on July 11, 2013, 05:16:55 AM
Who would have thought that there would be days when a 2 Miss No Bomb EoSD LNB was something to rage about!

Nah, jk, keep trying. You're almost there.
You said No Bomb twice.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Sage Ω (Ultima) on July 11, 2013, 03:38:46 PM
Why can't I 1CC UFO? It's the last game on my list. I was doing perfect the first 4 stages I only lost two lives  but had plenty more. went from 5 lives to 1 & 3/5 after Shou and died on Byakuren's 2 spell card which I never failed before ever and I normally do good on stage 5.

Why does this game hate me soo much?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Star King on July 13, 2013, 02:17:31 AM
>PCB SakuyaB Extra scoring attempt for Mino's challenges
>Really good run going, all the way up to the nonspell after Charming Siege
>Probably at least 1.1B if I complete without deaths from that point
>Maybe even 1.2B
>Have to go do something
>I pause and go away
>Come back later
>"All right, let's do this"
>Attempt to unpause
>Press R instead of Z on pause screen
>I don't know why
>Maybe out of habit
>Stage restarts
>Back at the beginning
>Great run lost

why

why

why

why

why
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on July 13, 2013, 05:43:55 AM
You're really damn fast if you were seriously going to get that kind of score.

Also pretty unlucky!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: vctrz on July 13, 2013, 02:08:49 PM
Game over on stage 4 :(:(:(:(
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Oh on July 13, 2013, 02:39:02 PM
why is getting 5 power before Aya so damn hard?? I guess I'll have to miss some items  :ohdear:
also playing with rubber dome keyboard sucks
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Yatakarasu on July 14, 2013, 02:07:56 AM
I game over'd twice in a row to Mamizou's survival card. I just...ugh.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Star King on July 14, 2013, 03:15:00 AM
You're really damn fast if you were seriously going to get that kind of score.

Also pretty unlucky!

Upon playing the stage more I actually think I overestimated a bit. I still definitely would have gotten over 1B though which was what my goal was (maybe higher goal now though).. Maybe 1.1B. Probably not 1.2B.

Anyways I've been working on it and hopefully should get that soon.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: BT on July 14, 2013, 07:10:42 AM
Upon playing the stage more I actually think I overestimated a bit. I still definitely would have gotten over 1B though which was what my goal was (maybe higher goal now though).. Maybe 1.1B. Probably not 1.2B.

Anyways I've been working on it and hopefully should get that soon.
Out of curiosity, though, how long have you been gunning for this? Since the challenge started?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: FamilyTeam on July 14, 2013, 01:41:37 PM
I game over'd at Yuyuko's last spell.
I entered the level with how many lives again?
6 BLOODY LIVES.

Edit: it's rather obvious that THIS (http://www.hark.com/clips/mqprhhxbwt-seriously) was my reaction.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zengeku on July 14, 2013, 02:06:13 PM
Muh. Improved my DDC trial PB by 5 million but failed both the Kagerou midboss card and her second spellcard like a complete moron. These spells are hard if you are stupid and slow like me.  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Star King on July 14, 2013, 05:14:29 PM
Out of curiosity, though, how long have you been gunning for this? Since the challenge started?

Yep. I already had a 960 million NMNBNBB with ReimuB a few months ago, though.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: chirpy13 on July 14, 2013, 06:15:23 PM
TEH URN!  ...Which was lost by dying to Gengetsu's final.  I'm pretty upset right now.  I'll get you one day Zil...

(http://i.imgur.com/F7vowy8.png)

EDIT: I am crying (http://i.imgur.com/MZbK65v.png)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Zork787 on July 15, 2013, 02:46:45 AM
The bullshit I just suffered in MS's Hard mode makes me want to Strangle a fucking newborn! 3 deaths to Mai and Yuki thanks to mai's fucking lazers, game over TWICE to Yumeko, and game over twice more to Shinki, ALL FROM HITS THAT SHOULD HAVE COUNTED AS FUCKING GRAZES!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Esper on July 15, 2013, 02:55:45 AM
Hourai Elixir

Hourai Elixir why

I can capture you normally

So why

WHY

Why did I mistake a bullet at the 01 second mark for a score item

why

why

why
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
Post by: Space Flower on July 15, 2013, 06:19:38 AM
I remember my first Elixir cap... 1/100 exactly, yeaaaaaaa

I just love when I'm having fun with Touhou and I just have to go and ruin it by going into an Extra stage and trying to do everything perfectly like the great players do in the replays and I can do the vast majority of it but I make a mistake and I restart and each time I restart I make the mistake a little earlier until I realize I've just spend the past hour on one stage without ever reaching the boss.
Then I stop trying to do it perfectly and get to the boss and when I die I'm like, "I would've gotten further on the boss if I did the stage better" and everything just resets to the beginning again.