##Vote NeoSer-oh wait we're not in LyLo yetjust kidding*cough*
##Vote Zakeri
Because ~*~BANDWAGONS~*~
That guy in red? Don't you remember red is the color of SCUM? Or truth in someone else's case. Of course Pesco is scum but we can only beat him by lynching the other scum first.
Hey speaking of the other scum. Serela, are you trying to use the RVS again to excuse your extremely anti-sanity play? Trying to vote yourself, hopping on the bandwagon, third even and promising to kill us all in the end, you are the epitome of anti-town and shall receive my scorn! Today you can call my scorn the kiss of death.
*Shadoweh kisses NeoSerela in disgust*
##Unvote
##Vote: NeoSerela
What a horrible flavor. Now to chase after Kitten4co-mod for nooo reasonn~
Not Voting: UK
Whoa, do we really have to vote him with so much time left? I'm sticking with my vote for now.
But, anyway, more seriously, I'll vote when something catches my eye. Nothing has thus far. I mean, seriously, guys, give me *something* here! Bard didn't even give me something to tunnel him on!
You know, as jerkish as Helepolis is for recovering before me, HangedHouraiMokou's name has a SPACE in it.
Do you know what hangs around in SPACE?
That's right, the stars.
Need I say more?
##Unvote
##Vote Hanged Mokou
No, but you voted for me. :V
Anyway.
What's with the sudden bandwagoning, capt. h?
I'm just going with the group for now. We have no actual information on D1, now have we?
I was just voting randomly, as usually happens on day 1. Or is that different here?
But a scum with an ability, who has nothing to fear might talk just as much in trying to blend with the Town.
And my words wasn't a theory. It was more like the obvious which always works. When people a getting cornered, either they will fight back or give up. We want to call out the Townies and filter the scum. Right now, focussing on lurkers is step 1. We'll see what happens.
Your star still shines
Fallen stars
Simply put, the new players unsurprisingly made more of what I would consider mistakes, thus they are mentioned more then they who are merely lurking and waiting for blood in the water.
rdj: If you're going to keep pushing for Dormio based on something he said earlier I'm going to insist you tell us what you thought of the rest of his posts. Hopefully Bardiche is being facetious and doesn't actually want you to ignore him.
Like I said, lurkers could be simply scums, waiting for several votes to occur just to give the final required vote. The current state we are in, surely proves nobody is for sure what is going on.
Plus, we have no idea what abilities those star-guys have. It is not like Marisa's stars from her spell cards. But I am sure they have some tricky abilities. If indeed the lurkers have an ability, we will just have to force them to reveal it.
But a scum with an ability, who has nothing to fear might talk just as much in trying to blend with the Town.
And my words wasn't a theory. It was more like the obvious which always works. When people a getting cornered, either they will fight back or give up. We want to call out the Townies and filter the scum. Right now, focussing on lurkers is step 1. We'll see what happens.
Could you elaborate, please?The less someone knows about what's considered scummy the more likely they are to act that way by accident.
Don't call me he. :ohdear:My apologies ** bows **
Scum abilities? I said: there is a possibility of a scum having one of the star's abilities, thus could perhaps make him/her more confident with it. Have you considered this possibility? You probably did not.
And there is noway we are going to find out like this. I thought it was obvious when the mod opened the post himself with certain people would have certain abilities. Do you think only Townies can have abilities? I don't think so. Best be to cautious with these abilities, as we don't know them all yet.
However, it seems that Bard has already used an ability on Shadow. Most likely as the name states, it will show his true face. So we got one ability revealed already on day 1.
The less someone knows about what's considered scummy the more likely they are to act that way by accident.
If we go through an entire day without leads.. uhm.. no that really shouldn't be possible with us. I assure you we won't need to default any lynches to policy. We might lynch active lurkers or absent lurkers for being scummy but not just because.
I will leave you to your case but insist you give an opinion on people other then Dormio as well. Tunneling and ignoring the rest of the game can also be considered scummy.
And then rdj begins reporting actions.
We don't need a recap of what everyone's done, tell us what's bad about it!
Overall, I wonder why Bardiche is tunneling on Zakeri when he's been more active than Serp/HM/Schezo. There are some pockets of aggression here and there with the others, but nothing that really jumps out at me as inherently scummy.
NeoSerela - bandwagoning Zakeri
Shadoweh - everyone lay out your opinions NOW
capt. h - seems to be all over the map with his votes
UK - Pesco is obvscum thinks Shadoweh is being unfair to the newbies; is bugged by Bardiche's buddying
Bardiche - is pushing for a Zakeri lynch, which started because of a standard "you voted me so I'll vote you" vote; teaming up with UK; used an action on Shadoweh
Why him instead of the other three that have only posted once?I've posted three times already. You guys are just jealous that I escaped as lurker scum last game and are just pretending it's still relevant.
And I meant:
Bandwagoning, in a good or bad way? Is it scummy or not?
Shadoweh, is her action scummy to you, townie, neutral, just affronting, what?
What about capt h? Is his wishy-washy vote hopping scummy?
OK Bro so is UK scummy or not? Are her actions townlike? Why recap her thoughts when anyone could've likely read them and used their own interpretation?
Zakeri lynch started because he was the only one to post before me and thus easily the most scummy player up to that point. What about this flawed reasoning fell into "OMGUS" territory so hard? Oh, because I pre-empted my vote with "OMGUS". I think the self-diagnostics there woulda set off the "It's a joek" alarms.
Is my teaming with UK scummy or not? Is my using an action scummy or not?
:/ We need to hear who's scummy, not what we've been doing.
Your fake action: Null tell; how can it be scummy if it's fake?
Your pushing for a Zakeri lynch: The OMGUS post was only the start of it, nothing more. However, you continued to tunnel on him, even after switching your vote to Conqueror. Though now that your vote is on me, I don't know what to think about the Zakeri train.
What's scummy about the fake actions again?
What's scummy about the fake actions again?Nobody else can be entirely sure if they're fake or not.
And if nothing else, you annoy me.
Nobody else can be entirely sure if they're fake or not.
And it can lead to some wonderful misdirection.
Creating confusion amongst town is scummy, no?
Warning - choo choo i'm a train
You're saying my action will trigger an effect that is:I'm saying it could trigger an effect that is:
To iterate, if something suddenly happens, you will know it originated from me, therefore it is senseless to hide. Therefore if it is something negatively affecting town, you should lynch me.
If it were an action you wouldn't realise what'd happen, that'd mean you'd demand me to make it:
A) Public
B) ... rolefish ensues.
No, really, your scenario makes no sense at all. There's no way I can sneak in a hidden ability because if it were something the result of which would be as public knowledge as the command submission, then you'd realise it was me anyway. If its result is For My Eyes Only, why should I make it plainly obvious I'm using it? There's no reason I should.
Are you sure you are scumhunting, and not being paranoid over role shenanigans here?
@Hanged Hourai - I like your avatar. Where is it from?I found my avatar on Danbooru. Pics of Hourai actually being hanged are a little scarce.
Oh and you have a better idea than Hanged Mokou? So you have it all figured out?
Let us hear from you some "useful" contribution. Or are you just going to sum up and backtrack on actions like everybody else does here?
Reporting and cheerleading are like two brothers who go on a date.
@HelepolisDefine "visible contribution". A vote? A summary like everybody did? A deep-analysis of everybody's actions?
Correct. You aren't making a visible contribution. What conclusions do you expect me to draw from players that don't make visible contributions?
Also, rdj, are you saying that lying about one's abilities and openly admitting to doing so is a null tell?
So how do you feel about me bro. The Zakeri train you're unsure of, okay, I dig that, bro. Brofist on that. But you haven't explained why you needed to raise people's actions with everyone.
And trying to paint a black and white picture that "if I cannot report people's actions, you must want x and so" does not do you favours. People can pay attention by themselves, we don't need you to point out what's going on and slinking to the sidelines with "it's all a nulltell!".
I'm still writing and I hate to interupt, butWhat typo? I see no typo. *whistles innocently*
@mod4u: Is that last votecount missing a vote on UncertainKitten a typo?
Just because it doesn't give direct visible "contribution" to this situation, does not mean it is "useless".
Define "visible contribution". A vote? A summary like everybody did? A deep-analysis of everybody's actions?
@ Hanged Hourai, OT > (why did you change your nick btw... thought that was not allowed in this game)I did it a while before the game started. :<
You seem to be missing my point or misunderstanding. I wouldn't be surprised with that temper. I merely requested clarification on your groundless assumptions.
capt.h: That's an interesting viewpoint you have there. Why do you think only scum can be contractors or have post restrictions?
@Mod: Are we playing humans versus contractors or scum versus town?
Voting:V
Conqueror(1): Conqueror
Ummmm, I still feel the fence-sittingness. The unvote with no case on anyone is groan-inducing. Urgh, this is your first game?
Rdj: Bardiche is incapable of telling you what Shadoweh wanted unless he learned mindhax lately. You're operating under alot of misconceptions that could be considered scummy, so I'm going to go over some of them. They're self-devised traps you shouldn't fall into. Providing a summary of people's actions is considered reporting, buffing your content by just showing what other people said. Don't do it, people will look for themselves and they don't appreciate the effort. Secondly don't assume anything about actions. Private actions could resolve publicly and public actions could resolve privately. You aren't "in a mess" yet, it's just crazy Bard. Just find another case on someone you think is acting scummy now that the game is going (and we're PLAYING MAFIA YAAY~) and keep your vote on them. The only thing you can do wrong is give up.
Helepolis: You have around 43 hours to change people's minds, please do so.
Schezo: Sorry, I type more manic then you. You don't see anything wrong with UK's /ignore of giving opinions?
My reply to Bard's shenanigans:
~~~<~@~~~<~@~~~<~@~~~<~@~~~<~@
Shadoweh waited at the steps of the podium as Bardiche strode down the steps, the sun glistening over his hair like diamonds refracting a disco ball. She rushed to his side, locking their fingers together in worry. "Was that all true? Are you running off with that UnreliableKriminal and leaving me in this poor town we grew up in?" Bardiche, swave as ever, answered, "Of course not baby, you know I'm a gambiting man. Come with me into my quick topic and I'll show you my Unlimited Gambit Works." Unable to resist, Shadoweh swooned and quickly rewarded the magnificent macho manipulator with a hot, steamy, X rated kiss.
~~~<~@~~~<~@~~~<~@~~~<~@~~~<~@
We're going to have hot, steaming intercourse in the backroom, you dirty voyeurs. >_>
oh god wall of text *drowns*
UK, your assessment of my phrasing is correct. I need better tests if you're going to cheat on them. I believe in catch and release though. One incorrect answer isn't enough to build a case on. I am of the opinion that one side would be more likely to take the bait then the other. But even if you had a reason for not giving an opinion you still refused to. I uh, think I saw some opinions in there somewhere though, so I'm quite content on that front. Huge post aside, isn't your vote essentially a long-winded OMGUS?
Out of curiousity, on the subject of such traps, are Bard's and rdj's interactions a similar situation in your opinion? I'm not sure how I feel about it, other then agreeing rdj sounds newbtown.
capt.h: I think you're confusing me for UK. I don't rip Bard's throat out until Day 2.
Captain H.
Tell me. Who. Is scum.
Why. Does. ShadowehxBard. Concern you. At all?
How. Are your. Questions. Pro town? Did it EVER occur to you that if ANYTHING is going on, it MIGHT be in the best interest of things to keep it from scum? OBFUSCATION ISN'T ALWAYS ANTI TOWN!
@Zak 89: Active lurking in 23 hours. Awesome. Hell, you voted me with even less hours. I think I was asleep when you did that. And I was running DnD when you posted that. Then I went out for a few hours.You don't even know what Active lurking means, do you? It doesn't matter if you were sleeping, or playing games, or doing errends. What matters is what you do when you are playing mafia.
@Capt. h.: Nice evasion. Who's scum? This is not a hard question. You've more or less answered it finally! Good.
Now. Restate reasons for Hele scum.
Explain how Shadoweh and Bard are scum for their interactions?
Explain why you are entitled to any information from either of them?
And fuck anti townness. Look for SCUM, not lecture on anti townity. Hell, if you do both I'll consider it decent.
Link all the posts Zakeri, tomorrow morning I'll tell you exactly why you're wrong and why you're scummy for it.
@capt. h.: Then if you can't find the scum intent, look elsewhere for it if you are CERTAIN it exists. And you've only been asking for opinions on each other? That's hilarious. I'm pretty sure you've asked them why they are doing this no less than three times, and strongly suggested you feel it's related to role bullshit.
UK's recent posts (Well, okay just post 147) Are working towards defeating my case on her, but with her recent vote and case on me, I've become more wary of her again. If attempting to push bad cases is scummy (which I'm willing to agree with) Then UK's case against me is definitely scummy.Okay, so your case isn't as good anymore, but now that she's voting you, she's looking worse again? It's like a double OMGUS I'm looking at here. I think Zakeri looks slightly worse by virtue of not having really said anything else though, whereas UK has put something else out since her early game, which I agree was bad.
"So you're not watching for weirdness and you're not scumhunting and you're brushing aside your no longer lurker's argument against you as temper, so.. what are YOU going to do to contribute to town today?"This is not a concrete statement of opinion, unless I'm not reading between the lines enough or something. You never really expanded on your reasoning for this vote, but here (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,8870.msg597350.html#msg597350) you seemed so confident in your vote...it's almost like you expected people to fill in the blanks for your case. It's just all very...fishy, ugh. I think this is enough to change my vote for now.
What?
But...
How did...?
What are Conqueror and I suppose to do now?
Cut by Dormio's post. >_> Looks like a bunch of throwaway comments. Doesn't look good - I await that post of yours.Yeah, because at this point I don't really have anything on the people that I listed before.
F) Caedo and Capt. H's. votes on Bard are dumb and distracting. Scumhunt please!And the other random votes that are still lingering around aren't?
Shadoweh is playing completely differently than she usually does.
Request to Modco and Kitte4Mod
Would it be too much asked if I requested alphabetic order for the vote counting list posts? It would make it easier for us all. The list order changes when a person is not targeted and kind of confusing sometimes. I don't want to strain you too much, but just A-Z order for the targeted people would make me grateful. The people voting are easier to spot anyway.
Serp: So, did you see good opinions, bad opinions, nice opinions in UK's post? Your vote implies you liked what you saw but your words sound like an excuse to change sides.
Or are you just going to sum up and backtrack on actions like everybody else does here?Considering a lot of your post is this, I would like and explanation as to why others can't and why it's A OK for you.
I have genuine scum reasons for a Helepolis voteBut your vote is on someone you find "fishy". Could you tell why a Bard lynch would be better than a lynch on who you find scummy?
I have genuine scum reasons for a Helepolis vote
PoppaCap- Why would a Bard lynch be better than who you said was your "top pick" for scum?
I want to get this out first before my other post.
Capt. h, why are you still voting Bard and for what reason?
He's been weak, and the case against him is justified, but I don't like how when Serp voted Bard immediately jumped on his wagon right afterwards with a one-line explanation.
Zakeri needs to rage less and post more valid cases. His case on UK is not valid.
##Vote: Zakeri
Voting UK for being UK is incredibly boring. She always does this. Last game, she did the exact same thing. The game before that, exact same thing. I know because normally I'm the one voting her for it, but y'know, not today, bro. Because I have seen the light and UK is totally being UK instead of being scum or doing this active lurking hodgepodge.
In fact, what is "weak"? You've thrown that around for all who you want to lynch. Is "weak" scummy, ill-motivated, devoid of much logic, what? Define your scumhunting here, I'm not quite sure if you're just aiming for people who are easy targets ("weak") or whose content is unsatisfying, or whose content is directly adverse to what content you expect town would deliver.
Right now, just because Bard bandwagoned onto Zak on the strength of Serp's post. It could change to Yonowaruu if his posts continue to be weak though.
I personally haven't got a read either way between Zakeri and UK. Right now they could both be town or scum. I think the heavy language is coloring my perceptions since I see the words as scummy. I might not have directly said I felt UK was scummy but I don't tend to argue with people I think are town about opinions and I don't think she answered my question. (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,8870.msg597515.html#msg597515) If you did please remind me. Need more input from Zak to assess his motives.
... Consider me sold for a capt H / Zakeri OTP Scumteam.
I've caught you as scum doing this EXACT SAME THING before. Are you telling me it's somehow not how you show scum intent anymore?This isn't how meta works. I do one thing once, and suddenly, every time I do something like it, I'm always going to be scum? What exactly makes you think it's not because I think your actions and cases are scummy? In fact, what makes other people think it's not because you might be scum?
@Caedo 164: You know what you're post is missing? That's right! Analysis! It's all well and good to report things you find off, and then just throw town vibes at people for no reason, but it'd be REALLY NICE if we could at least know what you think of, say, Serela and Conquerer outside of cute question marky faces!Know what else is missing?
Anyway, your post says a lot of nothing except a very comprehensive summary of the game. Now, sure, I use those too to get my bearings on things. How about this. Can you explain to me why capt. h. is scum in 5 sentences or less? Concision is pro town (even if I find it hard to practice what I preach while catching up)I got nothing to hide. I will explain this. It might be a very weird reason but the vote analysis still goes on for me.
##Unvote
##Vote capt. h
Many of you will consider this bandwagoning. Let me tell you: You are wrong. Even if Shadoweh has outputted to get rid of you, that isn't my reason. The minority is informed. The scums know who their buddies are. Right now most likely they are trying hard to prevent obvious groupings.
However, we can see some groupings going on. Particular the people who I set my eyes on are: Bardiche, Capt. h and Shezo. However, Capt. h's behaviour, posting aggression makes me wonder: "Why". If you are a townie, you wouldn't be cause this kind of a mess to everybody. Sticking your nose in other people's business as well as spouting random words. You and few others kept on performing pressure to do something. Hoping they would slip up? ** smirks **
However, I have my eyes on Bardiche and Shezo as well. Especially Bardiche, who has just like you, started suddenly post fast and extremely defensive. Especially outputting posts which nobody asked for. So far, I am sticking with Capt. h. The following hours will most likely bring us more knowledge. I am still little puzzled about Yonowaaru.
I refer to this:
So uh, if Zakeri's posts "continue to be weak", you'd jump to Yonowaruu instead of me.
... I am totes misunderstanding this.
oh dear god that wasn't supposed to take that long
...I'm heeeeeeere! ;_; Oops. Anyway. Post! Yeah. It's right here.now I just need to type the rest of it gdi
I dislike when D1 is full of walls. Because there usually isn't a whole lot of stuff in them that is important on rereads. PoS Mafia's 300 word limit rule was cool for that reason ): Anyway, trudging through this.
The first thing that's sticking out to me is how capt.h seems to be utterly blind to the fact that Bard DOES have a case on Zak. It's like he looked at Bard's post, saw the Zak vote, and failed to read any of the words in his post afterwards. And then failed to notice Bard responding to him and repeating his case.
But, judging from last game, this is pretty much what's to be expected from capt.h anyway. Which is irritating.
...uh. More coming soon. I'm figuring I should post this first because A.clearing up capt.h's confusion and B.I don't want the bunny to shoot me for not being here because modkills are terrible for everyone.
Oh and I guess I should also respond to his >"It?s starting to bother me, because after Shadoweh?s anti-sanity case against her I was hoping to follow up on her." ummmm you were planning to follow up on someone's rvs jokevote even though we're waaaaaaaay past RVS?
The last vote is suspect but likely to be a townie pushing against no-lynch as anything.
Anyway, it's a wash. Your answer is EXACTLY what I expected from a townie. Your list trying to get us to attack noobs, however, feels scummy."This reads to me as "Okay, you answered exactly how I think town-you would! YOU SEEM SCUMMY." Uh, what? This feels really contradictory and off. Again, in a kind of suspicious way.
Anyway, it's a wash. Your answer is EXACTLY what I expected from a townie. Your list trying to get us to attack noobs, however, feels scummy."
Dormio-Because at this point, my suspicion of capt. h is mainly just what everyone else has been saying.
I would like a little elaboration on why you aren't voting for the person who gives you a "scummy vibe."
I am currently still reading, but at a glance I already know I want to vote capt.h 4 more times. That's impossible so here's some motivation for you all.
>>---->>>---->>>---->>>---->>>---->>>---->>>---->>>---->>>---->
Green thunder crackled in the radioactive sky as the survivors huddled around a rusty barrel, the flames within providing meager warmth. Another booming noise sounded off in the night, this time far too close for comfort. The group turned to watch as the gruff, no-nonsense Shadoweh waved her shotgun in front of a terrified, cornered capt.h. "I gave you my reasons, why are you still voting me?!" he cried. Shadoweh took a drag from her cigar. "You're making up reasons for voting Bard as you go. AND you won't stop calling me he. This is the end for you." capt.h tried to plea for sanity, "That doesn't sound like a vote for scum!" Shadoweh answered with a maniacal cackle. "Town? Scum?" She aimed the shotgun. "I'm the one with the vig." *BANG*
>>---->>>---->>>---->>>---->>>---->>>---->>>---->>>---->>>---->
(Nothing to see here go on about your mafia)
Anyway, on to Shadoweh.
Firstly, continues to do that weird roleplay thing.
Secondly, why are you ignoring Zakeri?
You said that you could see him either way (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,8870.msg597733.html#msg597733), then claim that Zakeri is being lazy (anti-town?), that you're unwilling to go after him regardless and question anyone that does (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,8870.msg598132.html#msg598132).
capt.h: Are you going to make a post that isn't fishing?
No, capt h., it's none of your fucking business. Get your head out of the fucking roles, and get your head into finding scum. You
Do
Not
Have
ANY
Other
Goal
Than
Catching
Scum.
(Unless you are scum, which you probably are.) So stop. Fucking. Rolefishing.
Because if you don't want to be vigged, than you damn well stop looking scummy! Fishing to see if Shadoweh would vig you is 10 kinds of wrong.
Hey, how about this. I will totally fucking vig you, capt. h. How do you like them apples!? There you go, you know who the vig is and that she's going to vig you! Now produce some damn content!
Captain H.
Tell me. Who. Is scum.
Why. Does. ShadowehxBard. Concern you. At all?
How. Are your. Questions. Pro town? Did it EVER occur to you that if ANYTHING is going on, it MIGHT be in the best interest of things to keep it from scum? OBFUSCATION ISN'T ALWAYS ANTI TOWN!
...Why you do this.
Now, I think you?re scum. See, I think we have two town wagons here, and I see you at the center of both of them, making sure they both took off. If you aren?t scum, then I?m sure scum is thanking you right now for doing their job for them. Course I suppose I?ll only know if both wagons are town when Zak flips.Why did it take you until you did a roleclaim to do the thing we've been insisting you do for over two days and actually look for possible scum actions? These observations? Make more of them. If you are truly town they will benefit town even if you are gone the next day. If you're scum, well then please make more for sure~
My case on UK is the following ? UK started two wagons today against two players. I don?t think Zak is scum. I?m not scum. But one of us is getting lynched, and she is the reason we?re picking between two town players.Show me the proof that UK was involved in the start of your wagon, preferrably with a link to where this happened.
What I care about is why you thought Bardiche was town earlier when I tried to press you about him. But UK got in my way. That?s another point against him; he gets in the way of my scum hunting.You mean why I never stated the opinion that I thought Bardiche was town when you were asking me what my opinion of him was? I'm afraid I can't answer that question, but have pointed out that your statement is technically incorrect.
Now at the time Zak made his case on UK, I felt Zak?s case was justified. Zak managed to make a perfectly good case against her, and she got Zak to be first in line for a lynch for it. Perhaps Zak hasn?t made enough posts defending himself, but I consider his behavior relatively pro-town at the time, and the way UK is getting him to hang for it is another point against her.Zak has made too many posts defending himself, that's the basis of their cases. However since he was defending himself from the subject of his case it can be seen in my mind as pro-town, but I can't determine that until he comes forth and lays out another case. What parts of his case did you find pro-town? Please specify.
Cool, Helpolis. So what's your case on me again? "He voted Zakeri!" is not an answer we can work with, you're going to have to give arguments.
What makes me wonder now the most is, why is Bardiche being heavily defended by Conqueror, Shadoweh and Bardiche himself. Also Serp has been quite silent to Capt h's vote on Bardiche's.This question was never answered, in fact it got totally evaded/ignored. Conqueror only clarified on the difference between Zakeri and Dormio, which I directly asked. But that wasn't my main concern. I find this very unusual.
Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 1) ? Reply #169 on: 09 April 2011, 10:18:14 ?
Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 1) ? Reply #264 on: Today at 10:49:21 ?
Sunday mornings are best to be done with smooth Jazz music and a cup of Earl Gray tea.
As for finding another case, I'm interested in capt. h. Not only is his vote jumping from person to person, but he's also recommended that Helepolis stop lurking by doing exactly what caused Bardiche to vote me. Perhaps he's trying to draw attention away from himself? Seems rather scummy to me.
-Conqueror... I don't get at all why he's selfvoting, or why Bardiche is following him.That changed over 100 posts ago. (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,8870.msg597598.html#msg597598)
-First, Helepolis. I can see misreading a post or similar, but not voting isn't really scum imo. I haven't really been very active because I don't usually play mafia on forums, I usually play on epicmafia. And then again, I'm not very active in those games either.I don't remember asking for your personal leisure time. I was asking your clarification on why you are so quiet.
-Captain H, the big scum favourite. Unvoting and voting someone for no reason like it was no thing. I don't get why he posted what he posted. Voting randomly is just as normal as voting for a joke reason. Perhaps I had a reason but I didn't post it? Think before you act, right? If I hadn't posted, he wouldn't have reacted... He also sheeped the vote on UK, because he was bored.... ehhInteresting, have you noticed that Bardiche was doing the same thing for pretty lengthy period? Randomly voting until now with no solid reasoning? And still doing it randomly. Have you noticed his last vote is on me? Sure you did.
Case? On you? You probably missed it in my post. I didn't had a case. Funny how you suddenly pull that out.
So yea, Bardiche. You might want to explain why you are in fact being defended?
Just like Serp, Rdj's activity has dropped. All of a sudden.
No, because I am going to change my vote to either Bardiche or Shadoweh as soon as Shadoweh switches from capt h to Zakeri.
So yea, Bardiche. You might want to explain why you are in fact being defended?
I'll write you something special if you do it nicely~I don't want anything written from your dirty keyboard. :wat:
This is the very definition of trapping. You're actively using Capt.H's meta to get him to say stupid things just so you could punish him for saying stupid things.Quote from: Capt Hcapt.h: Are you going to make a post that isn't fishing?Quote from: ShadowehI'm pretending to claim vig!Shadoweh - Are you going to vig me tonight if I don't get lynched?
Also, clearly, rdj's excellence is that he finally started playing the game proper and made a post with townie-intent.Oh wait, you didn't evade it but came up with an excuse. I don't remember I was told the same when I started "playing" the game.
UK, ignore the fact that he's making these points on you for a minute. Do you still think he's scum reading his last few posts?
Not willing to swap to capt h because I like the observation he made with UK and want to see more of them.It is just like Zakeri said, you and Bardiche are surely actively getting in the way of the Town. I just hope the Town people wake up and do something about this.
Um...did you ask me questions, Hele? I must have missed them. Feel free to reiterate them.No I am sorry, that part was aimed at Shadoweh. You already answered my questions. I got nothing else to ask you.
What makes me wonder now the most is, why is Bardiche being heavily defended by Conqueror, Shadoweh and Bardiche himself. Also Serp has been quite silent to Capt h's vote on Bardiche's.
@Shadoweh,Let me ask you again for the (dunno how many times): Why is Bardiche being defended for his terrible output and voting reasons.
Funny, In #269, I marked you as possible scum because you keep dodging why you started defending with the others Bardiche. Nothing convincing has been said for me to stop suspecting you or Bardiche.
Mmm. capt.h, I need you to clarify some of your points for me.Show me the proof that UK was involved in the start of your wagon, preferrably with a link to where this happened.You mean why I never stated the opinion that I thought Bardiche was town when you were asking me what my opinion of him was? I'm afraid I can't answer that question, but have pointed out that your statement is technically incorrect.Zak has made too many posts defending himself, that's the basis of their cases. However since he was defending himself from the subject of his case it can be seen in my mind as pro-town, but I can't determine that until he comes forth and lays out another case. What parts of his case did you find pro-town? Please specify.
Only Scum would try to claim scumteams without any flips.
Seriously, Bardiche, stop being scum.
The reason my vote is still on UK is because of her case against me. It is not an OMGUS vote. I am voting scum for pushing bad cases. I am voting scum for pushing cases they themselves admit they don't even believe in. I thought I broke it down in my last post, but I guess it didn't work, so let's try again.
"So, on the one hand, I know that bad cases aren't scummy but..."
Okay, here, UK is saying she believes that the case she's about to pull on me is completely void.
"last time Zak made a bad case against me, he was scum."
Here, She completely backtracks her statement, on the assessment that because I did one thing one time when I was scum, that means that I'm theoretically always scum every time I do something that could even be called voting her for a "Bad" reason.
"Not to mention his complete failure to account for reality."
This is vague as hell, and it was added to make her case on me seem more valid than "What you're doing is not scum, but I'm going to vote you for it anyway."
If it was just her opinion post taken into account, I would have stepped off to look in other directions, but I can't forgive a case that's this bad. I've been impartial, unbiased, and even somewhat supportive of cases on me before when I realized they had good points, but this case is literally just UK trying to find a reason to start a counterbandwagon, and failing to find one at that.
This isn't how meta works. I do one thing once, and suddenly, every time I do something like it, I'm always going to be scum? What exactly makes you think it's not because I think your actions and cases are scummy? In fact, what makes other people think it's not because you might be scum?
...
*sigh*
Of course, with post 188, my original case on UK has completely been conceded, and logic is even going so far as to suggest she's town. This is highly frustrating, since all of my hate now has no place to go, and the best I could do to blow it off now is just calling her an idiot, which isn't useful at all to town, nor my own self-esteem. This absolutely kills my motivation, but whatever.
##Unvote: Uncertain Kitten
Cut: Man, I really don't feel like rereading, and even if I do, it feels like people aren't even voting me for things I did this game. UK's voted me for being scum last game, Bardiche and a few others are voting me for being lurkerscum last game. You guys are making real good cases for me not to play anymore. Basically, the only person who I would even let slide for my wagon is Serpentarius.
As I said, his most recent post without the vote should be scummy. But honestly, I can see where he's giving up. I think his best move would be to request replacement, honestly. But if he's not going to, I'm not going to remain merciful if he proceeds to not be helpful.
I just understand that fatigue with the game fits fairly perfectly with his actions.
Shadoweh ilu so much, can I touch you? :D
Yes, I understand that you and bardiche are just having a ball, claiming five different rolepowers each, and attempting to lynch people for reasons that happened in other games, but if you are town, both of you STOP THIS NOW. I mean seriously. You are both actively getting in the way of people being able to read and understand you, and townies have no reason to do this. If you are town, STOP TRYING TO MISLEAD OTHER TOWNIES. I can't understand a damn thing about your intentions, and no one else can either judging from the fact that Capt H (And I) couldn't even find bard's actual case on me despite putting it right next to the vote. I literally though Bardiche was voting for me without even taking into account my play for this game. Seriously, I'd be willing to lynch both of you at this juncture even if I got cop investigations stating you were both town.
God damn, I though I spent all day cooling down over this, but every time I just look at Bardiche, Shadoweh, or UK, something just stirs up inside me. Something that's way bigger than actually catching scum. I am not having fun here, and I seriously wish I could even have the guts to just say I want to quit.
@capt. h.: A fair point. There's a sense of half assed trying in his latest post. Most of his observations don't really benefit scum, I feel. They feel pro active, but the lack of vote was an attempt to bait us because he gave up. It's hard to explain, it's just...I sense really irritated town from this. It's sort've how I felt like with you, except I try not to give up when I'm irritated.
you'll have to show me where I did this defending of Bard you keep bringing up.#129 You lecture Rdj regarding his vote on Bard. Advise him to find a "good case" and "stick with it".
Up to this point, I am still okay with my vote being on capt. hThe summary you gave, did not added any new information of what was known.
Bard: Shh, what happens behind closed doors stays behind them. But sure why not. What do you think of Zak's post and is it enough to convince you to get back on capt.h?
Zakeri's post reads as defeatist. I'm not happy with a player who basically doesn't really want to play, but I can get on capt h just fine. His scumhunting has begun but it's Too Little Too Late.
##UNVOTE
##Vote: capt h
Also teehee~ Shadoweh-chan~
It's a dark, unsettling night. The rain outside beats against the windows as a man does his wife. Thunder crackles and roars. The world outside is frightening, and aggressive... but inside, there's only you and I. We're sitting on a couch. Your head is on my shoulder. Your beautiful eyes reflect your honesty and my love for you.
"Oh, Shadoweh," I mumble, running a finger through your lush hair. "What would I ever do without you?"
The room is lit up as thunder flashes outside. For a moment, I can see your brilliant face lit up as a sun. You're beautiful. And I love you. I move my hand up...
And...
##Touch: Shadoweh, stroking your warm, apple-like cheeks.
"I love you."
He is not going to get NK Capt h. As expected, he changed his vote again to exactly as I expected.
Soon Shadoweh will do the same making it 7 votes, with the excuse of securing a Lynch and hinted Bardiche. Now it comes to this: Either all scums are already voting for you or there is 1 AFK/Sleeping momentary.
The trap is already set, matter of time for the 8th to join. I am not going to be that person. There is one option left, Serp , Conqueror, Dormio , Hanged Hourai, Zakeri and you to change voting to Bardiche to make it 8 vs 7. Though if that happens, If Bardiche is a townie, I will take full responsibility for that.
However, that is not going to happen because Shadoweh is pushing people to vote. So it will be a boring conclusion with no thrill.
#129 You lecture Rdj regarding his vote on Bard. Advise him to find a "good case" and "stick with it".This isn't true and you should be ashamed for this. rdj wasn't even voting Bard anymore when I made that post. My lecture had nothing to do with Bard and everything to do with encouraging rdj, who I saw as a new player confused with what to do, not to sit back unvoted and instead make a new case that he believes in.
So, I'm confused. I only see two votes on Bard including capt. h.'s
Are you seriously planning to make this a wagon out of nowhere?
So, I'm confused. I only see two votes on Bard including capt. h.'s
Are you seriously planning to make this a wagon out of nowhere?
Soon Shadoweh will do the same making it 7 votes, with the excuse of securing a Lynch and hinted Bardiche. Now it comes to this: Either all scums are already voting for you or there is 1 AFK/Sleeping momentary.Oh mai gawd how did you guess that Shadoweh who is manicing around trying to secure a lynch voted with the excuse of securing a lynch! You must be psychic!
This isn't true and you should be ashamed for this. rdj wasn't even voting Bard anymore when I made that post.Eh, I know that. He unvoted in panic. And then you lectured him.
My lecture had nothing to do with Bard and everything to do with encouraging rdj, who I saw as a new player confused with what to do, not to sit back unvoted and instead make a new case that he believes in.Rdj does not believe in anything. He has been ordered and isn't moving an inch for that reason. You declared Bardiche clean for no reason.
So, I'm confused. I only see two votes on Bard including capt. h.'sIt is not out of nowhere. You asked me many times to scumhunt right? Like you have been doing on everybody. I explained clearly before my vote and analysis. So here is your scumhunt. I thought that was obvious from my serious posts.
Are you seriously planning to make this a wagon out of nowhere?
Oh mai gawd how did you guess that Shadoweh who is manicing around trying to secure a lynch voted with the excuse of securing a lynch! You must be psychic!No madame, not physic. It was the obvious left to clean up Bardiche's mess. Either quickly jump over, or stay at the useless double wagon. Zakeri is no longer a wagon. Another failure.
I HAVE NEVER DECLARED BARD WAS CLEAN. STOP TELLING ME WHAT MY VIEWPOINTS ARE. If I have actually said "Bardiche is town do not lynch him" somewhere then by all means, show me where I did that! I have not. Your paranoia involving your scum team theory is stopping you from looking at the actions of individual players and judging them by their individual actions. If you're town you need to stop thinking in groups.Oh my, sudden screaming. Perhaps you did not read it #313 carefully. I used the word "declare" but it was obviously your actions causing it.
That's nice, and I must have missed the question. Though I'm PRETTY sure I DID answer it, thinking on it. I said several times that his little "There is no certainty in mafia" post was the straw that broke the camel's back. It made me realize just how much he was evading questions and not scumhunting. I said this several times. So...
Strange, you demand me to show where you defended Bardiche, I do it in #313. You come up with lousy excuse. Then I explained clearly the case of Rdj's strange behaviour for that excuse.So that part where your accusation is outright wrong is a poor excuse? Lovely. If there's one thing I regret from today it's ever moving off of your wagon.
Lovely. If there's one thing I regret from today it's ever moving off of your wagon.My life will be most likely taken by kill by the scums. Mainly, for giving them this much trouble. So scums don't need to bandwagon me. You had the chance to bandwagon me.
So that part where your accusation is outright wrong is a poor excuse? Lovely. If there's one thing I regret from today it's ever moving off of your wagon.
capt.h, if it's not condusive to your scumhunting just consider it nulltells and ignore it. Voting out of frustration will not find us the scum.
You know, you were almost cool capt. h! But then you went back to the rolllllleeeeeeeeeee fishing.
Right, so anyways.
Hele, for the love of all that is town, stop pretending holding out for a lynch that will never come is town and secure our lynch for today before scum are the only ones who get to do anything tonight.
@ Capt h >> you do realise that there is a still a majority on your head. 8th Lynch basically means it is going to end immediately. 7 votes on your head means Scums just have to delay it.Do you not understand that YOU currently look like the scum trying to delay the lynch? If we as a group do not lynch someone, no one who might be scum will get lynched, and scum will kill someone who is definitely town. The people you are waiting for aren't here, and by their posting times are not likely to BE here until the day is over. So please stop waiting for people who will show up to post "Wait why wasn't there a lynch yesterday?!"
Do you not understand that YOU currently look like the scum trying to delay the lynch? If we as a group do not lynch someone, no one who might be scum will get lynched, and scum will kill someone who is definitely town. The people you are waiting for aren't here, and by their posting times are not likely to BE here until the day is over. So please stop waiting for people who will show up to post "Wait why wasn't there a lynch yesterday?!"
Do you not understand that YOU currently look like the scum trying to delay the lynch? If we as a group do not lynch someone, no one who might be scum will get lynched, and scum will kill someone who is definitely town. The people you are waiting for aren't here, and by their posting times are not likely to BE here until the day is over. So please stop waiting for people who will show up to post "Wait why wasn't there a lynch yesterday?!"
Maybe my memory is off? It still remains that I can't remember one solid stance he's made until one page ago. And he spent a LOT of time rolefishing/dithering on Shadoweh/Bard for no purpose.
Serp, yes, they do come over conspiracy theories don't they. And the alignment flip is indeed another thing. Have you read also my case posts (not the silly exchange of words later) on on Bardiche? ( I hope you did ). And I didn't pick my vote on conspiracy theory, I picked Bardiche with exactly the reasons I given. The conspiracy is 2nd part of it and does not necessary, because he is being heavily protected. His actions gives me a sense of he is scum.
So Serp, then what is your stance close to end game? What do you think of Yano, Schezo, Serela and Mokou's posts until now. We know Dormio is in bed. He won't be able to reply anything atm unless the game drags on and he decides login to check.
"STOP! HELEPOLIS!"
Okay. I have to go for a couple hours, so town is on it's own for the rest of this short, short day. I am not moving my vote. For everyone else who wants to hold off until the last minutes of today to hammer I will remind you to look at the beginning of the topic and note twilight time for night actions comes out of our remaining day time. Hammer SOMEONE. SOON.
That is an idealistic theory that I'm surprised you haven't proposed yet. Past attempts to outsmart Pesco's setups have only ended in tears and dead townies.
You're operating under alot of misconceptions that could be considered scummy, so I'm going to go over some of them. They're self-devised traps you shouldn't fall into. Providing a summary of people's actions is considered reporting, buffing your content by just showing what other people said. Don't do it, people will look for themselves and they don't appreciate the effort. Secondly don't assume anything about actions. Private actions could resolve publicly and public actions could resolve privately. You aren't "in a mess" yet, it's just crazy Bard. Just find another case on someone you think is acting scummy now that the game is going (and we're PLAYING MAFIA YAAY~) and keep your vote on them. The only thing you can do wrong is give up.
If every contractor is dead at the end of the game, I probably win. At least, I think I win. My alignment is human, and I win when all threats to town are eliminated.
When people act in groups, it's generally because they're looking at the same game and are likely to reach the same reasonable conclusions. If you decide for sure that one or two people are scum, you can spend all day putting together scenarios for their interactions and their scumbuddies, but without seeing their alignments flipped first, you could quite easily be wrong and all that work could be wasted. The game is balanced under the assumption that a townie's pick of scum will be correct only about half the time, after all. Your scum picks this early in the game should be the people who make the most sense as scum individually.
This is my current case on him: At the time that advice was given, capt. h had already switched his vote around several times and was suggesting that you, Helepolis, summarize the game's events...something that I had already been seen as scummy for. That is what initially drew my vote to him. capt. h went on to vote Bardiche for a one-line response to Shadoweh's shenanigans, and then later switched his vote from Bardiche to Yonowaaru, a lurker, after holding on to the Bardiche case for a reason that was weak at best. He later roleclaimed a vanilla townie, with the role name "human detective", but then went on to sayThat case is nothing new. You are not adding nothing new except stating what is going on. You never questioned anybody else seriously during the entire game. Only minor suspicion calls, which one was on me for vague reasons. And that was it. You are not moving any inch anymore. In my eyes, you are giving me extreme scum vibes, playing along the plan ordered to you in secret. (inb4Conspiracy theory call!).
5:50am.
What's happening?
Did capt. h just vig Bardiche?
Reading some more.
Zakeri's post reads as defeatist. I'm not happy with a player who basically doesn't really want to play, but I can get on capt h just fine. His scumhunting has begun but it's Too Little Too Late.
Which means I'm also not going to leave my vote on you because maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan, you just put yourself from "scummy" to "whoah what is going on in this thread derrrrrp".
##Unvote
##Vote: Zakeri
Not willing to swap to capt h because I like the observation he made with UK and want to see more of them.
Anyway, Shadoweh was killed by Serpentarius so I don't think scum get to nightkill? Unless they did and Serp still somehow bit it. GDIT
##Feel: NeoSerela/me shudders
Helepolis: Given Shadoweh's flip, are you still convinced that I was taking orders from her?Not really.
Feeling people up does not a bomb of them make, Serela. Lol you.Well the only other possibilities are you divine roles via copping a feel, or had private communications with Shadoweh. But I'm not going to push this, since at the moment, the info isn't vital and I'm not interested in lynching you at this moment in time.
Because Shadoweh was a Bomb (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KUJE2xs-RE).... Pfft.
[pesco]Link edited in for lulz[/url]
obvscum thing...how is it scummy, again, to hammer someone who is 100% definitely going to be lynched and there's about half an hour left till deadline and 2 people already said they'd hammer him if they needed to
Maki (マキ?)
Voiced by: Yuko Sanpei (Japanese), Maxey Whitehead (English)
A young boy with heterochromatic irises. Maki's ability allows him to perform a type of spontaneous combustion on objects that he touches with his hands. The explosions can occur remotely as he often prepares handprints before activating his ability.
He says UK is suspicious, but he wouldn't vote her unless other people started showing an interest in it, and even then, he says he'd rather have a vote on a lynch candidate. And then he says, "But's she's been good lately, which makes me weary." Fence sitting and not explaining his not-very-solid-but-willing-to-vote-if-she-gets-more-suspicious opinion on her makes Hanged Hourai a sad crimson helper.There wasn't a whole lot of time left in the day. Of course I wanted to have my vote on one of the wagons. I wasn't sure I'd even be back by deadline due to sleeping, making it even more important. I wasn't voting since no, she wasn't going to be lynched that day most likely, and no, there was not a whole lot of time left and I might not have been back to change my vote again.
Also, I'm going to withhold the answer Bard's second question, because that's apparently part of how being town works :P Don't get me wrong though. I'd still love to make a huge case on you. It's just with the way you started the day, it seems less conducive to catching scum.I'm reading it as, you don't want to make a case on Bardiche because he's conducting everyone since the day started, what?
rdj-
Pway wif us? ;-;
Also, where did I call Schezo scum? Also, I only asked THEIR opinions on everybody, not the other way around. Reading comprehension: Top secret tech yo~Oh, I interpreted that as "here are 3 names, everybody say why you think they're scum".
Yeah, I guess that's kind of bad of me, but I simply didn't have any motivation at all to go back and dig through more D1.Don't do that any more... If you don't have any motivation, you shouldn't have joined the game. Half-assed work is useless for the town.
Helepolis, what changed between capt h's lynch and now that you do not vote me immediately? Is this or is this not linked to my primary scumbuddy actually being town?Hmmm?
Helepolis - Given Shadoweh's flip, his conspiracy theory has had a hole shot through it. Waiting to see what he says when he wakes up before passing judgment on him.
Helepolis: Conspiracy theorist who was grouping yesterday, yeah what else is new Schezo? Well it's hard to say since he has yet to give reasons for his actions yesterday so I'll hold off on this until he posts.My conspiracy theory was on Shadoweh indeed, it got shot. Though as I said cleary, the conspiracy is 2nd on top of my primary suspicion on Bardiche. And that suspicion has - not - changed.
@Caedo, your questioning of Bardiche is really weak. What are exactly asking him. As if any scum is going to answer that question in honesty.I just wanted to confirm something.
Zakeri is also bad atm for being horrible ninja-voter.WHAT IS SCUMMY ABOUT THIS, SERIOUSLY
30 minutes until Yonowaaru gets prodded.Well, if he doesn't show up within 12 or so hours, then I'll just unvote him since he'll start lookin to be modkilled anyway. If he DOESN'T get modkilled though... he really needs to be lynched. He's either massive lurkscum or a COMPLETELY useless townie.
NeoSerela - Seems to be more active today, so far. I agree with his assessment of the capt. h hammer; however, he seems to have dodged UK's question, which is not a good move.She said I had 24 hours k >: I gave her one name already, and now I'm back with a fresh mind to get one or two more! Hopefully two.
Also, why are you so adamant in defending Zakeri anyway?Nah, just that one particular reason because IMO it's a bad reason to think he's scummy. As I've said, there are OTHER reasons that I don't mind if you think he's scummy for. Like that period he wasn't voting for, or if you thought his UK case was bad, or if he was tunnelling on UK (still haven't checked this *cough*)
WHAT IS SCUMMY ABOUT THIS, SERIOUSLYNice raging there. But I don't see anywhere in my line stating he is scum. All I said is 'bad' as in bad player. First going emo about the game, withdrawing vote then surprise-voting the last minute/second without talking/communicating.
ugh.
If there's 30 minutes left in the day, and you said you were going to hammer capt.h soon so there isn't a no lynch, so then I went and just hammered him myself, does this suddenly make me really scummy? No. It doesn't. It is almost completely irrelevant in that case whether you or me hammer, and that case is pretty much exactly what happened here, and I'm irritated people are calling this "HORRIBLY SCUMMY". It's not like there isn't plenty of good, justifiable reasons to think Zak is bad -anyway-!
Anyway at this point I'm just starting to rage at it whenever I see someone say it because it's annoying me and I think I should just drop the point unless somehow a wagon starts on Zak that's decent-bit driven by him hammering when two other people were about to do it themselves anyway.
You should stop skimming/poorly reading my posts and read them, so you don't make up weird assumptions for yourself.lies I read it perfectly fine ;_;
So, let me get this straight, Serela. Schezo is scum for...starting the wagon on capt. h.? And...because capt. h. is an anti town player, scum would just be chomping at the bit to lynch him? Is there anything else to your case that I missed?That Schezo was also lurky and his 2 non-completely-ignorable posts on D1 weren't particularly exciting other then the paragraph on capt.h? >:
Also I'm currently trying to decide whether Bard is a sexy beast or a creepy perv.
That he let Shadoweh buddy up to him all of day 1 without trying to even push her away just rings an alarm for me since, as scum he has nothing to lose from letting a townie clear him and then taking each others backs, which is hard to read through because of all the silly sonnets or what have you, you both keep posting.
His last minute jump off of Capt H is also terrible since it seems as if he knew he was going to flip town so by getting on Zak, which was probably not going to happen at that point, he can seem to float over suspicion of being on the town flip.
If you indeed used the ##Touch power to turn Shadoweh into bomb, it explains Serp's death as well. He shot Shadoweh and died during it (boom da ze). There is no way 2 vigs from Scum killed both Shadoweh and Serp.
If you indeed had the power of turning people into bombs, it won't be working this time unless you paid the price which currently we don't know what. In DtB it says it might affect body / food / living style. So unless someone lost the ability to speak suddenly, I will be hunting you.
So unless someone lost the ability to speak suddenly, I will be hunting you.Someone did lose the ability to talk when Bard used his ability. He did, until the end of the day. So, this means you won't be hunting him, then?
Eh..:wat:
I totally understand you want to lynch me now, and you should, but you could also let me gather my bearings and actually DO something.
it would be nice if you provided reasoning for your lovely insight.
I'm reading [Zakeri's reason not to make a case on Bardiche] as, you don't want to make a case on Bardiche because he's conducting everyone since the day started, what?Umm, what? I'm not seeing what you're reading, or if this is just a backhanded attack against Bardiche.
Zakeri: All he's done this game is tunnel on UK, unvote UK and disappear for the rest of the day, reappear in time to hammer capt. h.You must have missed my post 284 (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,8870.msg598555.html#msg598555) since you seemed to have not included it with "all I've done." I'll forgive that, since I didn't vote, but I did claim in post 290 below that I would have voted for Schezo, who I'm keeping towards right now.
suspicious ofDerp.moreme
Your point that we would have to scrutinize the wagons on lurkers kind of defeats your point that lurker wagons provide no information. The whole point of wagons, and why town lynches are better than no lynchs on any day besides mylo is because you're suppose to scrutinize the voters.Eh, alright, fair enough.
Not completely sure on what I think of NeoSerela and Bardiche, I'll need to reread them and post before I go to sleep/tomorrow depending on how long it takes.Zakeri too.
Bard is scum at this moment in time.
Yonowaaru was worse about following it and providing less opinions, but I have high hopes for HW to either reveal he's scum or reveal he's town. I'll admit part of my vote for Yono was frustration at the utter uselessness of his player slot./me stares at UncertainKitten with questionable eyes and shakes his head gently.
I'm...not sure what your point is at this point Hele?Point is, until he starts posting, he is just in my eyes Yonowaaru v2.
Oh! Hele! I have an idea! I'm a bit busy but if you have some free time do some vote count analysis with the flips we have regarding capt. h.'s and Zak's wagons. For the purpose of this exercise, assume Zak is town, though feel free to post one where you assume he's scum as well. I'm curious to see what you come up with.You were spying again from the balcony in my room again, weren't you? No wonder Patchouli-sama is often angry at Miss Meiling.
I haven't done much because as I asserted, I can currently follow the trains of thought of nearly all active players in who they find scummy and why, and find the way their votes went to who they did to be like a mathematical equation flowing from cause to effect.
Since Schezo has always been lurking hard when he was scum with me, I determine this as a scum trait in his playstyle; he was not previously so, and I dread to think he believes himself to be putting up a good fa?ade of town as is.
You were spying again from the balcony in my room again, weren't you? No wonder Patchouli-sama is often angry at Miss Meiling.
I | didn't | think | that | would |
be | a | wall. | Apologies. | Nevermind |
about | my | inactivity | by | the |
way, | hopefully | this | shall | suffice. |
We'll | see | how | it | goes. |
How is my post an admission of "spectating", and how does my joking around validate that I am scum?I may be misinterpreting, but when you say yourself that you "haven't done much" (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,8870.msg600846.html#msg600846), instead favoring observing the other players to see their trains of thought without really posting much of your own, I think I'll take it as spectating.
I may be misinterpreting, but when you say yourself that you "haven't done much" (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,8870.msg600846.html#msg600846), instead favoring observing the other players to see their trains of thought without really posting much of your own, I think I'll take it as spectating.Also, since I know Bardiche is going to contest this, I want to ask you all something.
In #413 NeoSerela says he believes in Bardiche's QT with Shadoweh, but in #466 this changed to "obviously Bardiche turned Shadoweh into a bomb".
Am I the only one thinking that Unmask (rolecop?) is Bardiche's real role and that Shadoweh was a bomb naturally?
In fact, I think his claim is a lie, as if you actually skimmed through the list of characters, his remuneration is a lie.
Huh What, I see great synergy with our powers. Feel free to switch my vote to NeoSerela if you can if it's needed for the lynch.
Have you just realised what Px did? You know what that means dont you?No, I don't. I have absolutely no idea what ##Freeze does. Are you claiming to know this?
Ugh, beyond that I would like him to die since he has nothing to really say about others and everything else about him has already been beat over the head with a stick.On Zakeri... when this is Schezo's second post with opinions. He iterates that his vote stays on Capt h, but the reasons are... lackluster at best, and the entiriety of D1 he has discussed Zakeri, Helepolis and Capt H. With a one-liner about me being wacky but interesting.
The argument in his latest post is sily ("Why would I do X?" - "Because you could be lying." -> "Second, WIFOM!").So what you're telling me is I took the trap of a WIFOM loaded question you asked to at least two others and now I'm scummy for that? How do you honestly answer that question without being Bard when we don't know what you are thinking?
The problem with NeoSerela's plan is that even if Bard isn't lying about his claim, that doesn't mean he's town - it just makes it more likely he is town. But being able to verify Bard's role is nice, I suppose. If we are going to go by that plan, then I think Schezo would be the best option at the moment. I'm not going to be around at day end though, so if we do decide this we should do it quickly.
We seem to have a small problem here though, mainly I am concerned about huh what. He is most likely stuck on Bardiche vote because of his power backfire.
why wouldn't scum make a townie a bomb who could take other townies with her if people did catch on to her strange play and buddying up to you and she later got mislynchd?
Two is ridiculous on the basis that the bomb died. I am notified when the bomb I made dies, and unless it became Serpentarius, then Shadoweh was my bomb, she was killed, and it is highly likely the attacker died.
The only other option is if there IS a driver who made me bombify Serpentarius and Shadoweh attacked herself which was then redirected to Serpentarius, or scum can ignore bombs.
Actually, please elaborate on this. What "power backfire"?Bardiche suposingly got silenced after he used his right? If you go backtrack, that is confirmed. Indeed the moment Bard used his power on Shadoweh, he got silenced.
Serela, why are you suddenly silent after I explained you the HW part. You asked me it, what the hell are you now doing/thinking?I was simply wondering why you acted as if you knew what other people's powers did.
we'd just need to wait for someone else to come onlineGuess 3x why the hell I have been holding off my vote? That person who is most likely going to come online is only Hourai now.
Early day 1 shenanigans, then completely throwing away his case at the end and shutting up for the rest of the day.
as well as lying everywhere.(please cite sources)
In fact, I think his claim is a lie, as if you actually skimmed through the list of characters, his remuneration is a lie.
Also suddenly he writes like 7-8 posts? For what reason?⑨ posts.
Also, just realised Dormio neglected responding to my question: "How does 'spectating' equate to 'Bardiche is scum'?"Spectating, in combination with all the other crap you've been pulling, makes you look scummy.
Where did Huh What claim any powers?He can apparently swap his vote with somebody else.
Warning - choo choo i'm a trainFuck, I forgot Bardiche was frozen.
modsux.
And what the f**k is this post (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,8870.msg602238.html#msg602238).You know what?
So you are claiming NeoSerela fake-role-claimed?And what the hell is this s**t too?
Oh, you also completely missed me, you know, asking questions of you, Hele.Missed you? A case you want? Nah, way too soon Miss UncertainKitten. First I need to hear out PX and Huh what for their strange actions. No VCA after D1? Is that so?
It is. You in fact did absolutely nothing D2. You might have thought we wouldn't notice in lurker fervor, but you conveniently went to the background because we weren't lynching you that day. You pay for that today, either in actual content, or your life.Suddenly some fierce words there Miss UncertainKitten. When you say "You did nothing", you must be surely referring to Hanged Mokou and Zakeri?
And you're tilting it towards your life pretty fast~.
Welp, there goes my entire case. <___<Care to explain your swap action, what on earth you had in mind when doing that?
Current intention would be to look into RDPX and Dormio. I'll see when I get some more time on my hands.
Suddenly some fierce words there Miss UncertainKitten. When you say "You did nothing", you must be surely referring to Hanged Mokou and Zakeri?
Suddenly some fierce words there Miss UncertainKitten. When you say "You did nothing", you must be surely referring to Hanged Mokou and Zakeri?I started the wagon on the scum, thanks.
Ok, catching up. I'm gonna do an indepth reread of the recent stuff and make a post.Yes, that is correct. Because...
I'm gonna say right now that I do not like Helepolis. First point I'm going to mention, HE REALLY DID NOT LIKE ME HAVING MY VOTE ON NEO, AND REALLY WANTED ME TO GET OFF.
But I'm going to be careful with my vote and not put it on someone until my reread.Double checking never hurts, right? I need to confirm things for myself as well.
Care to explain your swap action, what on earth you had in mind when doing that?I didn't want people to derphammer Serela? :V
ending discussion earlier would have resulted in the people targeted by the killing actions being eliminated prematurely.As in?
The reason I stated I would be inactive is because I was confused about how my renumeration workedOh right, forgot about this.
Probably should do a reread on Zak. I keep looking at his avatar every time I scroll past it, anyway.
Don't really think either Zak or Bard is scum at this moment in time.Wonder what happened to that reread anyway.
IHave I lost my mind, forever insane?'mhaven't
End of DApparently my thought process is all screwy right now.32
These (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,8870.msg602284.html#msg602284) two posts (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,8870.msg602306.html#msg602306) portray what I feel about your end dayWow. I didn't know I could make this many typos in one go.onetwo.
If I could have my way both of them would...daydie today.
"I started the wagon thanks" Yea, thanks for being very communicative during the rest of the game. Otherwise I would have finished it by vote count 7.
First, I'm still angry at you Helepolis.And again you people do not seem to read. Why don't you first read #648 and 659 carefully before jumping into silly conclusions.
Helepolis, both days you have been less than spectacular.
And you are looking like every spectrum of scum possible.
Lurkscum, wafflescum, derpscum, and so on.
@ Kitten, Well. at the 7th vote count , Neoserela was on L-1. I was logically nonvote , thus I could have hammered it right there. But yea, what if I extended it longer.... that idea backfired and benefited. Benefit: extra powers detected, backfire: Bardiche got surprised, though I think his bomb still worked (I hope) and probably saving your life. The only thing I am wondering is, what if I did hammer back then. We don't know for sure whether Bardiche could use his power during NK. I wanted to make sure...Nice accusation of me trying to save NeoSerela and being possible <insertword>scum. I was basically hoping people would communicate whether I should hammer now or wait. You know, acting like a group which was asked from me after D1. Remember? Serpenterius said to stop making individual actions and start doing things as a group.
And what the heck does this mean?It means exactly the way you read it. Do you think I made my roleplay posts for just being silly and roleplayish? If you would have actually been around instead of vote->lurk without communication, I would have ended it this stupid day much earlier. I was forced to hold back my hammer, just to see what else was going to revealed.
Spent all of late D2 complaining about lurkers and wanted really badly for me to get off Neo. Even tells other people to get off Neo and jump on Schezo. His contributions were prodding lurkers, role speculation, and defending Neo. I can't see any townie intent in his actions.Role speculations, sorry to break your bubble, but the Freeze power speculation was spot on. (And no it was not dumb luck). The Freeze suddenly messed up our entire plan that is again because some people were being awesome with their activities.
And again you people do not seem to read. Why don't you first read #648 and 659 carefully before jumping into silly conclusions.What about them?
Because if you did you'd know I am not talking at all about your non-hammering at the 7th votecount or whatever.You should be.
Though the fact that you keep bringing it up is further validating lurkscum status.That is an odd link you are drawing there.
Anyway, I'm referring to your hesitation to hammer NeoSerela at the end of the day that almost lead to a no lynch.And I am saying, the hesitation was intentional faking for me to confirm something.
And, hey, Helepolis. I like how you ignore every single point that's being made against you, waving it off with "read better".That is because you don't.
Because if you did you'd know I am not talking at all about your non-hammering at the 7th votecount or whatever.I am bring this up twice in my post. And I will explain you why:
You should be.
That is an odd link you are drawing there.
And I am saying, the hesitation was intentional faking for me to confirm something.
That is because you don't.
I am bring this up twice in my post. And I will explain you why:
Let us check #531 (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,8870.msg601252.html#msg601252). Notice how PX votes for NeoSerela? L-1 on Serela's ass. Kitten announces it though I don't get why she says "Vote carefully".
Dormio, before you said Neoserela was obvious scum right? How come you didn't hammer then? I know what your excuse is going to be, I was at Uni I couldn't. But that excuse doesn't go up as slightly earlier you said you were going out and kept your vote stuck on Zakeri.
At that time suddenly HW comes out of nowhere, swap votes PX off Neoserla and prevents the final hammer. Read his reply:
#539 (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,8870.msg601554.html#msg601554)
"Basically, I felt that your vote on Serela was a rushed votepark" ? ? ? ?
At ? Reply #559 on: 13 April 2011, 17:43:17 ? (Helepolis) I was in the bus travelling home (on my phone go check my OS/Browser type) and was extremely surprised I couldn't throw the final hammer. I was kind of angry why nobody else did either.
So who is defending a scum here now?
You should be.What. The. Fuck.
You should be.For emphasis: What. The. Fuck.
That is an odd link you are drawing there.YOU KEEP BRINGING UP HOW YOU DIDN'T HAMMER NEOSERELA EARLIER IN THE DAY.
And I am saying, the hesitation was intentional faking for me to confirm something.CONFIRM FUCKING WHAT? HOW FAR YOU CAN PUSH THE DEADLINE?
Let us check #531 (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,8870.msg601252.html#msg601252). Notice how PX votes for NeoSerela? L-1 on Serela's ass. Kitten announces it though I don't get why she says "Vote carefully".DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT A EARLY HAMMER IS NOT GOOD?
Dormio, before you said Neoserela was obvious scum right? How come you didn't hammer then? I know what your excuse is going to be, I was at Uni I couldn't. But that excuse doesn't go up as slightly earlier you said you were going out and kept your vote stuck on Zakeri.HEY. SPOILER. I THINK ZAKERI IS SCUM TOO.
Yea make another post without actually reading anything. Your fake-rage play is currently not enough to get townies miss-lynch me.HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAH
What ever Dormio, I will be patiently waiting for the rest of the people to show up and hearing about them. You can in the mean while continue to rage because you are contributing nothing than running a personal vendetta on me....
So to sum up:
- So I like how the blame is being shoved so quickly, just because I held off a hammer which was going to be performed anyway.
- I'll say this once more, I could have finished this by votecount 7, but then none of you townies would have known the Switch and Freeze skill.
- All I can sense here is hypocrisy by output by people. Blaming me for all sorts of things but doing the worst possible mistakes themselves as well.
- Serela was sacrificed by own Scum team because he was powerless.
To continue
Why don't you people first try to explain how 2 townies died. Are there 2 scums out there with killing abilities? Or did Bardiche got killed because he was frozen? The wiki does not clarify whether the freezing of human body is lethal. Which makes it harder for me to find out.
##Vote Schezo
I will continue what Bardiche couldn't finish because people get in the way.
Final note
PX roleclaim he is town November 11 is hilarious. It was too obvious Bard and Conq were town but he still blocks Bardiche. If you want to see somebody's head rolling on the floor Dormio, start doing something instead of hunting in anger.
- So I like how the blame is being shoved so quickly, just because I held off a hammer which was going to be performed anyway.I AM NOT FUCKING TALKING ABOUT VOTE COUNT 7.
- I'll say this once more, I could have finished this by votecount 7, but then none of you townies would have known the Switch and Freeze skill.
- Serela was sacrificed by own Scum team because he was powerless.Yeah, I believe NeoSerela was abandoned by his fellow scum.
PX roleclaim he is town November 11 is hilarious. It was too obvious Bard and Conq were town but he still blocks Bardiche. If you want to see somebody's head rolling on the floor Dormio, start doing something instead of hunting in anger.If Bard was obvious town, then why the hell would people call him scummy, and why would he gather votes on him? Other than that, it was early in the morning so I wasn't thinking that clearly and I was thinking he was scum.
Why don't you people first try to explain how 2 townies died. Are there 2 scums out there with killing abilities? Or did Bardiche got killed because he was frozen? The wiki does not clarify whether the freezing of human body is lethal. Which makes it harder for me to find out.Uhh... what? This has got to be a mistake, right? Stop role speculating please.
You really do not get it do you, Helepolis?And that is why I keep repeating probably for the N-th time: It wouldn't have cost us a lynch because I was going to hammer no matter what. Either on Schezo or on Serela. As the Schezo-wagon didn't get off the ground for some reason (well the reason was obvious ^.^ ). I am glad Conqueror around.
I AM NOT FUCKING TALKING ABOUT VOTE COUNT 7.
I AM TALKING ABOUT HOW YOU ALMOST COST US OUR LYNCH AT THE END OF DAY TWO.
END. OF. DAY. 2.
2. TWO. II. 二. END. OF.
CAN YOU READ?
I don't even understand how you've managed to turn yourself from derptown to obvscum this quickly and efficiently, but you did it.I like how you speak for everybody (even for me) in this game. I also like how you create scenarios and answer them for yourself.
Congratulations.
Also @661orz , wrong quote name. That is what you get for manual quoting. That suppose to be HW yea.
Why you put my name there? Why has nobody bothered to correct that? It looks to me quite hard to confuse me for HW.
Uhh... what? This has got to be a mistake, right? Stop role speculating please.I am not asking you what it is, I am asking you how it become.
And that is why I keep repeating probably for the N-th time: It wouldn't have cost us a lynch because I was going to hammer no matter what.Except for the part where you didn't, hammered late, then got the lynch through sheer luck.
- How your vendetta with nothing else than post spam, make me a scum.I am making perfectly valid points.
I'm not exactly sure where HH stands, and I'd appreciate something from him elucidating this
Interestingly, if PX was expecting Helepolis to jump on Bardiche afterwards and tie the wagons up again, this could imply cooperation between the two (potential for PX/Hele buddying?). Also of note is the votefreeze on Bardiche slightly decreasing the chance of Serela having enough votes to be hammered on the deadline.In the beginning of Day 2, I had voted for Bardiche out of frustration and slight anger. My Mistress does not approve that, she insisted me to reread all the posts carefully again and use my brain. When I read the posts it all connected for me. Bardiche was not scum and here is how I fooled actually people, thinking I would perhaps vote on Bardiche when the wagon came critical.
Still, I'm probably going to switch to Hele by the end of the day since he's pretty much just Serela's obvbuddy right nowShould I make your lives easier with lynching me by simply voting for myself? It will put me on L-1 and given the twilight time, you people can discuss how I was miss-lynched, because that is the only way.
Also, I'm surprised nobody has asked this yet, soooo: Helepolis, can you clarify your vote on Schezo, and why it stands after the way D2 turned out? I honestly can't understand why Schezo would be worth chasing today after Serela's flip, unless you believe that scum would set up scum/scum wagons on D2 for whatever reason (in which case I would like to hear why you believe that).
Can you at least place a whole case in your own words down so I can tell what you are voting me for?Ahem... >_> Although I don't know where to go with this since he apparently dropped me in favor of himself... Hele if you really are town I think there may be a chance for you to redeem yourself (just vote someone first) make some cases and then really I think we all would love to know what ##Contract does, right now and in detail. I'm warning you, please don't lie.
Well...that was special. Though it seems kind of idiotic for scum to just hammer out of nowhere like that with pending info.It seems kind of idiotic for any[/u] alignment to hammer out of nowhere like that.
Btw Pesco, you still haven't answered if I can freeze myself. What gives.
What just happened?Trying to work on an assignment whilst being thoroughly confused by what is happening here is not the best idea.
I... wha... huh?
...What do you mean Shadoweh's role? How do you know about her role? EH???????????PX just claimed scum. Note what the moderator uses red text for in this game.
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i74/Naruto_Fan_101/Umineko%20No%20Naku%20Koro%20Ni/Beatrice/010.gif)
Where is Zakeri?
Once again. How is freezing two people's vote in LYLO no less town minded at all?YOU. JUST. DISABLED. TWO. VOTES. OUT. OF. FIVE. IN. LYLO.
Honestly, the hardest part of this role is trying to look town enough to avoid getting lynched whilst looking scummy enough to avoid getting night killed.
Also, Hourai, you suck at traitor.
Usually traitors get recruited with the NK, IIRC.My role last game says hi.
I don't really care about town or scum, since if I can get through tonight I've already won.
Unless I get night killed tonight.
I'm not night kill immune
Because if he doesn't flip scum are guaranteed a win if they kill me.Actually, they're guaranteed the win regardless.
:/
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And now watch and be amazed as the Amazing Hanged Hourai somehow manages to once again:
1.Get a power role.
2.Fail to use said power role to help alignment.
3. Make multiple people lose townie cred simultaneously with my flip.
4. Provide no suitable scum meta for future games.
5. Die in yet another way.
Pesco, I love your mindhax. If you guys voted with me, we could have won!!!!!!!!!
Dormio went for the Kill'em all win condition. It's his own fault he didn't think of PX being town.
Whatever.Seriously PX, what the hell.
PX, you are still forever scum and I hate you forever.
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Durrrrmio
# brb vigging Helepolis
# @Whatthehuh u got sum gd point hop u don get NK 2nite lol
# RT @UKRageWorks RT @Whatthehuh: Hey Zakeri hasn't really been posting and PX's power is really scummy, do you think they're scum? // Oh yea I thnk dem 2 is scum 2 lol they kin gt lynch 2morow.
# @CharismaOjouSlave WTF IS VOTECOUNT 7 WHU TH FCK CARES ABUT VOTECOUNT 7 U TRYD NOT 2 HAMMR I THNK U R SCUM WHY RN'T U DED YET #votethefuckoutofhim
# oh hai scum kin i hamr u no ok tnx lol OMG NO DIE U R WRST PLAYR EVAR #votethefuckoutofhim
# @CharismaOjouSlave OMG WTF WAS WRNG WIF U GTFO #votethefuckoutofhim
# WTF HAMMR WUTS SO HARD TO UNDRSTND HAMMER NOW HMMRHMMRHMMR! #whatthehelepolis
# why dos evry1 gotta keep cutng me lol #warningchoochooimatrain
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ITP Miller Survivor Conditional Vigilante isn't absurd at all! :D
<Pesco> you're a third party miller conditional vigAnyway, brb reading stuff.
Everybody that talks when I do (Shadoweh, lol) is dead.If you wanted someone to talk to you shouldn't have killed me! JERK! My heart only belongs to Bardiche now <3 I hate to disapoint you again but ShadowehxShadoweh was strictly forbidden :<I do so hope that you appreciate the ring, Shadoweh. It's a symbol of my love for you.
AUGH SHADOWEH COOTIES GET IT OFF
And what is with the roles I get in this game anyway?And damn scumteam.
First time ever playing Mafia: Miller pseudo-rolecop.
Second time: Town roleblocker.
Third: Third party miller conditional vig
And why do I get all these weird roles, anyway?The RNG must like giving you weird roles as much as it likes making Schezo scum. :V
In other news, I hate you Pesco.You are in no condition to complain. Hear me? NO CONDITION !!!!!1111
And why do I get all these weird roles, anyway?
I wonder what happens if I kill the last contractor but die at the same time anyway.OH. MY. FUCKING. GOD.
I bet Pesco would be all like "lolulose"
Ohyes, I've changed my Scum OTP to something like UK x Dormio x ??? so far. ??? Can be filled by.. I dunno, Schezo or Conqueror, maybe Zak still.wut?
Also, I'm sad that I never got to use my fakeclaim.You get all the awesome roles. I got vanilla townie twice in a row.
As soon as Conqueror flipped Human Scientist, I got this idea of using masons as a fakeclaim.
Since I'm also a Human Scientist.
In other news, I hate you Pesco.
And why do I get all these weird roles, anyway?
His posts aren't really drive-by, they feel too careful to me. And good. ilu Dormio but good posting makes me think you're scum <3Note to self, play terribly more.
Ah, well, if Pesco doesn't mind us spoiling it for each other, then I'll share both my role's features.SERP.
Firstly, I know who the contractors are.
Shadoweeeeeeh I'm not huggable, I am hate and fury! I finished the role setup for Cavalier of the Abyss Mafia, the only thing stopping us is "I don't know the flavour, should I sign up?"The answer to that is yes. Yes, yes, yes. You can just get rid of the other characters and everyone can be Just!
Just is a Conditional Town-Aligned Third Party Conditional Vigilant Conditional Messenger Conditional Time Hax Jester!
Dormio's forgetting to put the asterisks in his f-bombs. Oddly, that makes him seem a little more town to me, since scum would be fake mad, rather than actually angry.
I don't think he was fake-raging >.> What you did was pretty horrible.Spoiler: It was fake mad. :V
The answer to that is yes. Yes, yes, yes. You can just get rid of the other characters and everyone can be Just!
This is proof. The RNG is a better player then PX.Truth. Solid truth right here.
Oh you bet I will. I will Gungnir his ass with Remilia until dawn breaks.Bring it, Helepolis.
Oh Dormio. If only you ran these numbers before you claimed and Hammered.I know right?
Is it even possible for me to win at this point?
I don't know man.
Maybe I should play it safe and gate UK today.I really should have done this.
:/
Durrmio refuses to take his head out of his ass to see that PX isn't scum.He looks scum, he acts scum, he IS scum and has been in every game he's played.
Heh, so you figured it out at the end, huh Dormio?I had you pegged as the last (PX IS scum damnit) scum as soon as you started questioning my traitor claim and asking about SK specifics.
But...you didn't remotely seem like you claimed traitor. At all.Is why I put my claim in red and called Hourai out as a bad traitor, I wanted to see reactions to it.
And no Shadoweh! Huh what gets no shipping of us because she ran off with that. That Bardiche!*waits for Schezo to finish the Dead QT to see how true this is* :D
(Although you thought I was cute. :3)
BUT I WASN'T A BOMB! ;_______;Are you saying you are going against Modco ???
But in some seriousness, I can't really tell if I did good this game. I lurked hardcore, but that was about all anyone could say about me up until Schezo late D3. I caught Neo however, so yay?Your posts were pretty good when you made them. You needed to lurk a hell of a lot less, especially after Day 1, maybe re-read the game more. We all felt so bad for you in LYLO, stuck with scum, scum, skum, and Pxum.
I can't seem to keep a playstyle, much less a good one. :fail:
No seriously Pesco, make these and give them out. :BI remember Pesco bothering TSO in irc to implement those because he wanted to give me obvscum :V
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a197/Lilium1/obvscum.png)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a197/Lilium1/obvtown.png)
the GDC one. And that was just Kitten4U and I. >_>Not surprising. I think I'd cry if I had to play scum without day talk. I couldn't be chatty with my buddies then. :(
Not surprising. I think I'd cry if I had to play scum without day talk. I couldn't be chatty with my buddies then. :(Same here, actually.
So does PX get the Obvscum tag ^-^?PX is forever scum. :/
<Akiyama_dorMio> PX
<Akiyama_dorMio> I don't get it
<Akiyama_dorMio> how do you manage to look so scummy
<Akiyama_dorMio> despite being town every time
<Akiyama_dorMio> and you play way more than me
<PX> You know, I wish I would be scum
"Schezo is generally semi-incoherent most of the time."Are you implying you were coherent as town? :3 Your blending here was perfect and your politeness was so gracious! Did you like my rendition of it?
I guess that's what happens when I've only been town all of one time my whole mafia career on this forum.
Oh, and @capt. h, since you were talking about this in the dead QT:Not that it should have cleared him anyways since the scum had ~*SAFECLAIMS!*~
None of the vanilla townies were on your train at the end of D1. :V
Dormio: You're just jealous because I fought for mine and you lost it so hard. :)Yeah? Well...
Not that it should have cleared him anyways since the scum had ~*SAFECLAIMS!*~
I should probably get around to reading a scum QT in depth to see how scum minds work.I thought you had a pretty good scum QT going there. :smug:
I always just skim those. :V
I thought you had a pretty good scum QT going there. :smug:You calling our mason QT scummy?
##UnvoteCongrats Conqy for getting to Day 2! :toot: :toot: :toot: :toot:
##Vote:Conqueror
Alright, lynch me, on to day two guys.