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~Beyond the Border~ => Rumia's Party Games => Topic started by: Serp on July 24, 2010, 09:29:19 AM

Title: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Serp on July 24, 2010, 09:29:19 AM
Because Mafia alone doesn't make us paranoid enough.

Scoreboard

Dorian G: 0.5 Europes
Pesco: 0.5 Europes

Alright, I'm not sure how familiar you folks are with Diplomacy, but I'll go ahead and explain it all here so anyone who wants to learn how to play can do so.  Diplomacy is a board game with simultaneous turns that pits all the players against each other in a free-for-all battle of wits.  Each player controls a European power of the early 20th century.

(http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/4072/standardnounitss1914m.png)

Players fight for control over the marked territories, and of special importance are the Supply Centers marked with black dots.  To take these territories, the players control army and navy units.  Armies can move through land territories.  Navies can move through water territories and along coasts.  No two units can occupy the same territory.  Turns are simultaneous, and they follow a 3 turn cycle.  On Spring and Fall turns, the units move to try and occupy Supply Centers.  On Winter turns, no units move, all Supply Centers pass into the control of the player who occupies them, and players build or disband units so that they have as many units as their new number of Supply Centers.

(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/7568/standardnounitss1914n.png)

What makes this game unique is the rules for battle between opposing units.  It's this aspect that forces the cooperation between players that gives Diplomacy its name.  Two armies can sit next to each other and keep attacking each other for years, and neither one will be destroyed or forced to give up its position.  In order to dislodge a unit from a territory, the attacking unit needs support from another unit.  And in order to resist being dislodged, the defending unit needs support from at least as many units as are supporting the attacking unit.

(http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/3520/standardnounitss1914o.png)

In this example, the two Turkish units alone wouldn't have been able to dislodge the Italian army as long as it was supported by the adjacent Navy unit.  If they tried, then the Turkish unit would be bounced right back to the territory it attacked from, and there would be no change for the following turn.  However, with the Austrian army's support, the attack is successful and the Italian army is dislodged from its outpost in Greece.  Italy must then choose whether to retreat to an adjacent territory, or else disband the army and perhaps free up a slot to build a new one next Winter.

(http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/4357/standardnounitss1914r.png)

Now, this means that Turkey's attack was entirely dependent on his trust of Austria to go through with helping the attack.  Austria could well have decided not to help the attack at all, as he might be afraid of making an enemy of Italy, or he might be afraid of letting Turkey get too powerful.  And whatever he decided, he could have promised anything at all to Italy and Turkey.  Because orders are sent in secret, and resolved simultaneously, they'd have no idea that they had been betrayed until the orders had been resolved.  This is the theme of Diplomacy.  No one player has enough power to win on his own, and so alliances have to be made.  But every alliance is going to be broken sometime or another, because only one player can win.

Really, that's all the basic info you need to play the game.  The rest of this post is just a wall of text to deal with technicalities and special issues.  Feel free to skim over it if it's too much to bother with right now.

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Reference map here. (http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/766/standardnounitss1914s.png)

This is a map with the names of all the territories.  To send your orders, PM me with the territories, units, and actions involved.  For Spring and Fall phases, the are four valid types of action:  Hold, Move, Support, and Convoy.

Hold

A Hold order tells a unit to defend the territory where it's stationed.  For example, "Army Munich Hold."  If a holding unit is attacked, and the attacking unit doesn't have more units supporting its move than the holding unit has supporting its defense, then the attacking unit will simply be bounced back to the territory from which it was attacking.  Note that a holding unit does not automatically support nearby units - it must be explicitly ordered to do so.

Move

A Move order tells a unit to move from one territory to an adjacent one, and to fight any unit that tries to keep it from getting there.  The syntax follows "Navy Aegean Sea Move to Ionian Sea."  If two units move into the same territory, and one has more support than the other, then the unit with more support will occupy that territory, and the unit with less support will be bounced back to its original territory.  Army units can only move through land territories.  Navy units can move through water territories and also through land territories that are on a coast, but they cannot move between disconnected coasts.  For example, a navy that moved from the Mid Atlantic to Spain would be on Spain's north coast, and so it could not move directly into the West Mediterranean.  Remember that if you want multiple units to attack a territory, you must give only one of them a Move order, and the others should use a Support order!

If a unit attacks another unit that was given the Support command, and that unit's Support is not going towards an attack on this unit that is in turn attacking it, then that Support command is canceled.  In this way, a unit can disrupt an attack even if it's not in range to directly support the defending unit.  However, if a unit attacks into the territory of a second unit that is irself attacking into a third territory, then that second unit's attack is not disrupted.  If that second unit's attack succeeds, then it moves into the territory it was attacking, and the first unit then moves into the territory that the second unit vacated.  A rare situation, but it bears mentioning.  Finally, note that no two units may ever occupy the same territory, even if they're friendly, and even friendly units will just bounce against each other if they try to switch places by moving into each others' territories.

Support

The effects of a Support command have been pretty well covered by the rules up to this point, but it's important to note that a Support command must always be explicit in what it's supporting.  So, an order of "Army Ruhr Support Holland Hold" means that the Ruhr army is supporting the Holland unit's defense of Holland, and only that.  If the Holland unit moves, or if it supports some other action, then the Ruhr army's command does nothing.  To support an attack, the syntax follows "Army Ruhr Support Holland Move to Belgium."

In order to support an attack on a territory, a unit need only be adjacent to the territory being attacked, not necessarily to the territory where the attack is coming from.  Likewise, to support a defense, a unit need only be adjacent to the territory it wants to defend, not necessarily to the territory where the attack is coming from.

Convoy

The last order is a rare one, but it does come up occasionally.  A Convoy order lets a navy transport an army to a territory it couldn't normally reach, at least not in one turn.  The army just needs to send a move order that would take it to a territory it couldn't normally get to.  For example, "Army Berlin Move to Sweden."  If a navy is adjacent to both the territory the army occupies and the territory it wants to occupy, then it can be ordered as "Navy Baltic Sea Convoy Berlin to Sweden."

An army can be convoyed into a territory occupied by the enemy as an attack, but note that the navy doing the convoying is not considered to be supporting the army's movement for the purpose of determining the outcome of the battle.  A convoy attack can be supported as well, as with "Navy Gulf of Bothnia Support Berlin Move to Sweden."  Also note that a convoy can take place over multiple navies.  So, the combination "Army Berlin Move to St. Petersburg," "Navy Baltic Sea Convoy Berlin to St. Petersburg," "Navy Gulf of Bothnia Convoy Berlin to St. Petersburg" would be valid.  Needless to say, if the units' orders don't match, if one of the navies is dislodged by an outside attack, or if the destination territory is successfully defended, the convoy doesn't happen and the army stays where it is.

Retreat

If any units are dislodged, then in between the main turns there is a Retreat Phase where the dislodged units all decide whether to retreat or disband, and where to retreat to.  If a unit is disbanded, then the player that owned it won't be able to build a replacement until the next Winter phase.  If a unit chooses to retreat, then it must go to some unoccupied territory, and not the one from which it was just attacked.  If two units attempt to retreat to the same territory during the Retreat Phase, then both are immediately disbanded instead.

Build

After the Spring and Fall turns, there is a Winter turn in which no units move, and all Supply Centers pass into the ownership of the player occupying them.  For this turn, each player's number of controlled Supply Centers is compared with his number of units on the board.  If he has more Supply Centers than units, then he may choose to build a number of armies or navies equal to the difference.  Built units may only be initially placed in the Supply Centers the player started with, and of course navies may only be built in coastal Supply Centers.  If he has more units than Supply Centers, then he must disband a number of units equal to the difference.  Players send in their orders simulaneously for this phase, as with all the others, and after that the next Spring turn begins.

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Whew.  That was quite a job to type.  I just want to have it out there so there's no ambiguity in the way orders will be resolved.  If it looks to me like you've made a mistake in your orders, I'll send you a PM back to confirm if there's time to do so before the deadline, so don't fret about memorizing all that.  It should all make sense once the game gets going.  Anyway, the default Diplomacy setup uses seven players, with armies and navies initially placed as follows:

(http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/8779/standards1901m.png)

I'm open to trying out variants, but I'm hoping to just gather enough newbie interest this time around to ease into it with the default setup.  So, if you're an experienced player, or if you're interested in learning the game, please sign up!  The jDip client I use to run the game is really simple, so it's no problem at all if we need to run multiple games if there are too many signups, and to be frank, as I write this I'm more worried that there won't be enough to run even one full-size game.

The thread will mostly just be used for signups and for posting public updates, as most of the plotting will be done between players via PM with each other.  I'm thinking that 48 hour deadlines per turn will give enough time for people in different timezones to do their diplomacy.  Anyway, if you have any commentary on that or anything else, feel free to voice it, and same for any questions about the game.

Current Signups:
1.  Pesco - France
2.  Doll Warrior S. - Turkey
3.  Kasunagi no Tsurugi - Germany
4.  Fusion-Etch - Russia
5.  Naut - Austria-Hungary
6.  T34G3 - Italy
7.  Dorian G. - England
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Pesco on July 24, 2010, 11:42:11 AM
/in for the blue spot
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Doll.S CUBE on July 24, 2010, 12:04:34 PM
I'd like to give this a go, I'll be yellow

So do we just give you the orders in the PM and you just do the moving for us?

Also, do we establish alliances in with the PM?
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Kasu on July 24, 2010, 01:07:55 PM
Sweet~  I think I'll enjoy this.  Put me down for the gray please.

Also just to clarify, do we issue commands for all of our units each turn?
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Serp on July 24, 2010, 09:37:14 PM
Yeah, you all just PM me the orders for each unit you own, and then I'll resolve all the players' orders at once.  As far as alliances go, you can talk about them in the thread, but you'll definitely want to talk and strategize over PM with the other players.  You can use IRC or whatever, too.  There's no restriction on how you communicate with the other players.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Doll.S CUBE on July 24, 2010, 09:39:41 PM
Can we travel in our allies territory?
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Serp on July 24, 2010, 09:49:03 PM
Well, if one of your units goes into the Winter turn while sitting on a foreign supply center, then that supply center will pass into your control, regardless of any alliances you've made.  Because of that, your allies will probably be pretty mad if you move into their territory without permission, and will probably regard it as breaking the alliance.  Remember that all alliances are just agreements between players, and the rules don't care whether two players have told each other that they want to work together or not.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Doll.S CUBE on July 24, 2010, 09:54:21 PM
What with those white armies on the white territories?
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Serp on July 24, 2010, 09:56:44 PM
That's just another player.  Russia starts with four supply centers and four units, as opposed to three for everyone else.  To balance, they don't have a lot of easy expansion routes.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Doll.S CUBE on July 24, 2010, 10:02:03 PM
Can land units support sea units?
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Serp on July 24, 2010, 10:12:50 PM
Hm, I should have remembered to mention the rules for that in my rule writeup.  Land units can't support movement to a sea territory, but they can support movement from a sea territory.  So, on the first turn, Turkey's army at Constantinople can't support the Ankara navy's movement into the Black Sea.  But if there's already a navy at the Black Sea, it could support that navy's movement into Bulgaria.

Similarly, a navy can't support movement into territories that aren't on a coast, but they can support movement from inland territories to coastal territories.  And if a territory has multiple coasts like Spain, then if a fleet is on, say, the north coast, then it can't support moves into territories that are adjacent to the south coast.

Basically, the rule to remember is that to support the defense of a territory, or to support movement into a territory, the unit has to be allowed to move there itself.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Caber Knight Etch-A-Sketch on July 24, 2010, 10:15:58 PM
I wish to sign up as the nation of Russia!
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Doll.S CUBE on July 24, 2010, 10:17:04 PM
Hmmm, got it

Heh, I already have thought of several plans but most got discarded when I discovered Russia, why did it have to be white?
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Serp on July 24, 2010, 10:19:57 PM
Hmmm, got it

Heh, I already have thought of several plans but most got discarded when I discovered Russia, why did it have to be white?

Because historically speaking, it's not red yet. :3c
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Kasu on July 24, 2010, 10:21:31 PM
Because historically speaking, it's not red yet. :3c
*high-fives*
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Naut on July 25, 2010, 05:20:29 AM
/in as the k.u.k.

Let's do this.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: ES-Anthy on July 25, 2010, 12:19:27 PM
Oh god this game, this thing is hella fun when you have a bunch of friends playing it. Also whoever plays Italy is a backstabber, always.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Tapsa on July 25, 2010, 12:53:43 PM
/in as the last, Italy
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Naut on July 25, 2010, 09:08:03 PM
the last, Italy

England is still available.



Also, Denmark appears oddly defined in your map. Can you clarify it's boundries?
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Caber Knight Etch-A-Sketch on July 25, 2010, 09:32:50 PM
so, if I'm understanding this correctly, you can have one army for one supply depot, or can you have more than just one per depot?
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Serp on July 25, 2010, 11:15:34 PM
so, if I'm understanding this correctly, you can have one army for one supply depot, or can you have more than just one per depot?

You'll never have more armies than supply centers.  During the winter turn, when you lose any supply centers that are occupied by enemies, you then have to disband any armies above the new number of supply centers you own.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Tapsa on July 26, 2010, 05:37:45 PM
I didn't want to be UK regardless :)
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Dorian White on July 27, 2010, 12:14:35 AM
Interesting, /in to "rule the waves".^^
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Serp on July 27, 2010, 12:54:24 AM
Awesome.  That makes a full roster.  In that case, I'm going to set the deadline for the first order set at 48 hours from this post (1 a.m. GMT).  Since this is the first turn, I'll be forgiving about the deadline if we need orders corrections or last-minute questions or whatever, but please try to have them in 48 hours from now.

Also, I'd be much obliged if you also sent me a summary of what alliances you've been making and trying to make along with your orders sets, 'cause seeing how that aspect plays out is half the fun of GM'ing this game. :3c
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Kasu on July 27, 2010, 12:19:55 PM
Hope my orders got to you.  This is gonna be fun~.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Serp on July 28, 2010, 01:39:00 PM
12 hours left and I'm waiting on just one more set of orders.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Serp on July 29, 2010, 02:37:40 AM
Results for Spring, 1901 (Movement)

(http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/4763/dip1spr01.png)
   
      General Notices:
     
      No retreating units; retreat phase skipped.
   
      Order Results:
   
      Austria:

        Austria: A bud -> ser
        Austria: F tri -> alb
        Austria: A vie -> bud
     
      England:

        England: F edi -> nth
        England: A lvp -> yor
        England: F lon -> eng
     
      France:

        France: F bre -> pic
        France: A mar Holds
        France: A par -> gas
     
      Germany:

        Germany: A ber -> pru
        Germany: F kie -> den
        Germany: A mun -> sil

      Italy:

        Italy: F nap -> tys
        Italy: A rom Holds
        Italy: A ven Holds
   
      Russia:
     
        Russia: A mos -> lvn
        Russia: F sev -> rum
        Russia: F stp/sc -> bot
        Russia: A war Holds
     
      Turkey:

        Turkey: F ank -> bla
        Turkey: A con -> bul
        Turkey: A smy -> con

(http://i25.tinypic.com/2n9cpci.jpg)

Next up is Fall 1901.  Note that all supply center ownership changes will only happen at the end of next turn, so even if you're occupying a supply center now, if you leave that territory empty by the end of the turn, then it will remain neutral.  Also remember that when the build phase comes around, you'll only be able to build units in your starting territories, and you won't be able to build units in territories that are already occupied.

Next order deadline is about 48 hours from this post, 2:30 a.m. GMT. 
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Tapsa on July 29, 2010, 06:35:10 PM
I'm going for the weekend to a place with no internet connection. What's going to happen to Italy, Serp?

EDIT: turned out we were only going to be 1 day there. huh
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Serp on July 31, 2010, 10:06:31 AM
Well, this deadline is already being extended a bit to accommodate for the last set of orders, so you'll still probably have time to get your orders in 48 hours after that.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Serp on July 31, 2010, 03:24:24 PM
(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9489/dip1fal01mov.png)

      General Notices:

      No retreating units; retreat phase skipped.
   
      Order Results:
   
      Austria:
     
        Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 1.
     
        Austria: F alb -> gre
        Austria: A bud Supports F rum
        Austria: A ser Supports F alb -> gre
   
      England:
     
        Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 1.
     
        England: F eng -> mao
        England: F nth Convoys A yor -> hol
        England: A yor -> hol
          Convoy path taken: yor->nth->hol.
   
      France:
     
        Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 2.
     
        France: A gas -> spa
        France: A mar Holds
        France: F pic -> bel
   
      Germany:
     
        Germany: F den -> bal
        Germany: A pru Supports A sil -> war
          Support cut by Move from Livonia.
        Germany: A sil -> war
          Bounced with war (1 against 1).
   
      Italy:
     
        Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 2.
     
        Italy: A rom -> ven
        Italy: F tys -> tun
        Italy: A ven -> tri
   
      Russia:
     
        Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 1.
     
        Russia: F bot -> swe
        Russia: A lvn -> pru
          Bounced with pru (1 against 1).
        Russia: F rum Holds
        Russia: A war Supports A lvn -> pru
          Support cut by Move from Silesia.
   
      Turkey:
     
        Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 2.
     
        Turkey: F bla -> sev
        Turkey: A bul -> rum
          Bounced with rum (1 against 2).
        Turkey: A con -> bul
          Failed because Turkey: A bul -> rum failed.

(http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/377/diplo1fal01res.png)

Next up is Winter 1901.  Please PM me your build orders as soon as you can.  A couple of the players have said they might not be able to get in this weekend, so I'm not setting a hard deadline, but it shouldn't take you too long to figure out your build orders anyway.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Serp on August 02, 2010, 01:31:40 PM
(http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/337/dip1win01bld.png)

      Order Results:
   
      Austria:
     
        Austria: Builds A vie
   
      England:
     
        England: Builds F lon
   
      France:
     
        France: Builds A bre
        France: Builds A par
   
      Germany:

      Italy:
     
        Italy: Builds F nap
        Italy: Builds A rom
   
      Russia:
     
        Russia: Builds A mos
   
      Turkey:
     
        Turkey: Builds A ank
        Turkey: Builds F smy

(http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/8216/dip1win01res.png)

Next up is Spring 1902.  Try to have your orders in by 48 hours from this post, 1:30 pm GMT.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Naut on August 05, 2010, 04:12:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXGhvoekY44
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Tapsa on August 05, 2010, 07:02:32 PM
Hope I didn't miss the Send button.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Serp on August 05, 2010, 08:32:17 PM
(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/2571/dip1spr02mov.png)

      Order Results:
   
      Austria:
     
        Austria: A bud -> rum
        Austria: F gre Holds
        Austria: A ser Supports A bud -> rum
        Austria: A vie Holds
   
      England:
     
        England: A hol -> kie
        England: F lon -> nth
        England: F mao Holds
        England: F nth -> den
   
      France:
     
        France: F bel -> pic
        France: A bre -> par
        France: A mar -> pie
        France: A par -> bur
        France: A spa -> mar
   
      Germany:
     
        Germany: F bal -> lvn
        Germany: A pru -> war
        Germany: A sil Supports A pru -> war
   
      Italy:
     
        Italy: F nap -> ion
        Italy: A rom -> ven
        Italy: A tri Holds
        Italy: F tun -> wes
        Italy: A ven -> tyr
   
      Russia:
     
        Russia: A lvn -> pru
        Russia: A mos -> sev
          Bounced with sev (1 against 1).
        Russia: F rum -> bla
        Russia: F swe -> bal
        Russia: A war -> sil
          Bounced with sil (1 against 1). Dislodged from pru (2 against 1).
   
      Turkey:
     
        Turkey: A ank -> arm
        Turkey: A bul -> rum
          Bounced with bud (1 against 1).
        Turkey: A con -> bul
          Failed because Turkey: A bul -> rum failed.
        Turkey: F sev Supports A bul -> rum
          Support cut by Move from Moscow.
        Turkey: F smy -> aeg

(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5687/dip1spr02rtr.png)

I need retreat orders from Russia ASAP.  Valid choices are Ukraine, Galicia, or disband.  If it's disbanded, no new unit may be built until the Winter phase.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Serp on August 06, 2010, 12:10:02 AM
(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/6052/dip1spr02res.png)

Alright, try to have your Fall orders in by 48 hours from this post, about 12:00 am GMT.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Serp on August 08, 2010, 04:14:24 AM
I'm still missing some orders.  Next turn, I'm going to begin just going ahead with the update and assigning Hold orders to the units of any players that don't have their orders in by the deadline.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Serp on August 09, 2010, 12:07:55 AM
(http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/8383/dip1fal02mov.png)
   
      Results for Fall, 1902 (Movement)
   
      Order Results:
   
      Austria:
     
        Austria: F gre Holds
          Dislodged from ion (2 against 1).
        Austria: A rum -> bul
          Bounced with con (1 against 1).
        Austria: A ser -> tri
          Bounced with tri (1 against 1).
        Austria: A vie Holds
   
      England:
     
        England: F den Holds
        England: A kie Supports A bur -> mun
        England: F mao Supports A mar -> spa
        England: F nth -> nwy
   
      France:
     
        France: A bur -> mun
        France: A mar -> spa
        France: A par -> bur
        France: F pic -> bel
        France: A pie -> tyr
   
      Germany:
     
        Germany: F lvn -> pru
        Germany: A sil -> gal
        Germany: A war  -> ukr
   
      Italy:
     
        Italy: F ion -> gre
        Italy: A tri -> ser
          Bounced with bul (1 against 1).
        Italy: A tyr -> ven
        Italy: A ven -> tus
        Italy: F wes Holds
   
      Russia:
     
        Russia: F bal -> ber
        Russia: F bla Supports A ukr -> sev
        Russia: A mos Supports A ukr -> sev
        Russia: A pru -> war
        Russia: A ukr -> sev
   
      Turkey:
     
        The Fleet in Sevastopol cannot retreat; unit destroyed.

        Turkey: F aeg Supports F ion -> gre
        Turkey: A arm Supports F sev
        Turkey: A bul -> ser
          Bounced with tri (1 against 1).
        Turkey: A con -> bul
          Bounced with rum (1 against 1).
        Turkey: F sev Holds
          Dislodged from ukr (3 against 2).

(http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/662/dip1fal02rtr.png)

Need retreat orders from Austria ASAP.  Valid choices are retreat to Albania or disband to be replaced in the coming winter turn.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Serp on August 09, 2010, 12:27:15 AM
      Order Results:
   
      Austria:
     
        Austria: F gre -> alb
   
      England:
     
        Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 3.
   
      France:
     
        Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 1.
   
      Germany:
     
        Supply centers were lost. Units that must be removed: 3.
   
      Italy:
     
        Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 1.
   
      Russia:
     
        Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 1.
   
      Turkey:
   
(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/2885/dip1fal02res.png)

And with this, Germany has been eliminated.  Six players remain.

You've got 48 hours from the time of this post, 12:30 am GMT, to get your build orders in.  Once I get back to my computer after that, if I don't have everyone's orders, I'm going to start posting the update and just not build anything for whoever didn't send.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Kasu on August 09, 2010, 01:13:34 AM
Bah.  I knew I'd be like the first one out.

Ah well.  I'd play again if you did another one after this.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Serp on August 10, 2010, 09:00:22 PM
An error on my part:  France's fleet is in Brest, not Belgium.  I'm extending the Build deadline to 48 hours from this post to allow for orders and agreements to be mended as necessary.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Doll.S CUBE on August 11, 2010, 02:16:29 PM
Well I'm toast, my one chance failed do to miscommunication. All my planing and scheming, all down the drain. But don't worry Jasca, I'll help you out till the end, just send me a message of what you need me to do. Also, Kusunagi, sorry about your lost. 
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Kasu on August 11, 2010, 02:18:33 PM
Also, Kusunagi, sorry about your lost.
S'all good.  There'll be other games I'm sure.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Naut on August 11, 2010, 09:54:10 PM
But don't worry Jasca, I'll help you out till the end, just send me a message of what you need me to do.

AHHHHH
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Caber Knight Etch-A-Sketch on August 11, 2010, 10:56:55 PM
well shit, Time to up the ante.

My near-death experince requires me to do more stuff nowz!
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Serp on August 13, 2010, 07:58:42 AM
(http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/3751/dip1win02bld.png)

      Order Results:
   
      England:
     
        England: Builds F edi
        England: Builds A lvp
        England: Builds F lon
   
      France:
     
        France: Builds F mar
   
      Italy:
     
        1 build was unused.
   
      Russia:
     
        Russia: Builds A stp

(http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/1231/dip1win02res.png)

Next order deadline is in 48 hours, 8:00 am GMT.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Doll.S CUBE on August 13, 2010, 08:16:49 AM
Just give me your orders Jasca
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Serp on August 16, 2010, 02:48:05 AM
(http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/2360/dip1spr03mov.png)

Order Results:
   
      Austria:
     
        Austria: F alb -> tri
        Austria: A rum Supports A ser -> bul
        Austria: A ser -> bul
        Austria: A vie Supports F alb -> tri
   
      England:
     
        England: F den -> bal
        England: F edi -> nth
        England: A kie Supports A mun -> ber
        England: A lvp -> yor
        England: F lon -> eng
        England: F mao -> naf
        England: F nwy -> swe
   
      France:
     
        France: F bre > mao
        France: A bur -> mun
        France: F mar -> lyo
        France: A mun -> ber
        France: A spa Holds
        France: A tyr Holds
   
      Italy:
     
        No order for unit at Greece. Hold order assigned.
        No order for unit at Trieste. Hold order assigned.
        No order for unit at Tuscany. Hold order assigned.
        No order for unit at Venice. Hold order assigned.
        No order for unit at Western Mediterranean. Hold order assigned.

        Italy: F gre Holds
        Italy: A tri Holds
          Dislodged from alb (2 against 1).
        Italy: A tus Holds
        Italy: A ven Holds
        Italy: F wes Holds
   
      Russia:
     
        No order for unit at St. Petersburg. Hold order assigned.

        Russia: F ber Holds
          Dislodged from mun (2 against 1).
        Russia: F bla Convoys A sev -> ank
        Russia: A mos -> sev
        Russia: A sev -> ank
          Convoy path taken: sev->bla->ank.
        Russia: A stp Holds
        Russia: A war Holds
   
      Turkey:
     
        The Army in Bulgaria cannot retreat; unit destroyed.
     
        No order for unit at Aegean Sea. Hold order assigned.
        No order for unit at Armenia. Hold order assigned.
        No order for unit at Bulgaria. Hold order assigned.
        No order for unit at Constantinople. Hold order assigned.

        Turkey: F aeg Holds
        Turkey:  A arm Holds
        Turkey: A bul Holds
          Dislodged from ser (2 against 1).
        Turkey: A con Holds

(http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/9615/dip1spr03rtr.png)

I need retreat orders from Italy and Russia ASAP.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Naut on August 17, 2010, 01:51:17 AM
Quote
People not putting in their orders

(http://i38.tinypic.com/167ukj5.gif)
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Serp on August 17, 2010, 04:42:51 AM
(http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/4792/dip1spr03res.png)

Next order deadline is in 48 hours, 4:45 am GMT.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Dorian White on August 17, 2010, 06:21:59 AM
Italy and the Ottoman Empire in CIVIL DISORDER, not really a surprise but still disappointing.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Serp on August 18, 2010, 11:25:11 PM
Still short on orders with a few hours to go.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Naut on August 20, 2010, 02:10:41 AM
Stressin' hard
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Serp on August 20, 2010, 07:58:37 AM
I'm trying really hard to be a nice guy here with respect to deadlines.

(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4503/dip1fal03mov.png)
   
      Order Results:
   
      Austria:
     
        Austria: A bul -> con
        Austria: A rum -> bul
        Austria: F tri -> adr
        Austria: A vie -> tri
   
      England:
     
        England: F bal Convoys A kie -> lvn
        England: F eng Holds
        England: A kie -> lvn
          Bounced with pru (1 against 1). Convoy path taken: kie -> bal -> lvn.
        England: F naf -> tun
        England: F nth Convoys A yor -> nwy
        England: F swe Supports A yor -> nwy
        England: A yor -> nwy
          Convoy path taken: yor -> nth -> nwy.\
   
      France:
     
        France: A ber Holds
        France: F lyo Supports F mao -> spa
        France: F mao -> spa/sc
        France: A mun Holds
        France: A spa -> por
        France: A tyr Holds
   
      Italy:
     
        No order for unit at Greece. Hold order assigned.
        No order for unit at Tuscany. Hold order assigned.
        No order for unit at Venice. Hold order assigned.
        No order for unit at Western Mediterranean. Hold order assigned.

        Italy: F gre Holds
        Italy: A tus Holds
        Italy: A ven Holds
        Italy: F wes Holds
   
      Russia:
     
        Russia: A ank Supports A bul -> con
        Russia: F bla Supports A bul
          Support failed. Move orders must be supported explicitly.
        Russia: F pru -> lvn
          Bounced with kie (1 against 1).
        Russia: A sev Holds
        Russia: A stp Holds
        Russia: A war Holds
   
      Turkey:
     
        No order for unit at Aegean Sea. Hold order assigned.
        No order for unit at Armenia. Hold order assigned.
        No order for unit at Constantinople. Hold order assigned.

        Turkey: F aeg Holds
        Turkey: A arm Holds
        Turkey: A con Holds
          Dislodged from bul (2 against 1).

(http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/2013/dip1fal03rtr.png)

I need retreat orders from Turkey ASAP.  If I don't receive any within 24 hours, I'll assume a disband and move on to the build phase.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Naut on August 20, 2010, 10:04:09 AM
Come on guys, submit your orders or at least say you don't wanna play.  :ohdear:
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Doll.S CUBE on August 20, 2010, 10:29:42 AM
Sorry about that, I'm kinda busy with my own RP and I can't think of anything since Germany is gone and Italy's not responding.

So...move that piece to my remaining yellow territory and yeah that's all, I wait for the next game to begin.

The fall of the Ottoman Empire was not with a bang but a whimper. :(
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Serp on August 21, 2010, 09:27:26 AM
      Order Results:
   
      Austria:
     
        Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 3.
        Not enough open home territories to use all builds.
   
      England:
     
        Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 2.
   
      France:
     
        Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 2.
   
      Italy:
   
      Russia:
     
        Supply centers were lost. Units that must be removed: 1.
   
      Turkey:
     
        Supply centers were lost. Units that must be removed: 2.
     
        Turkey: A con -> smy

(http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/9036/dip1fal03res.png)

Build orders are due 48 hours from this post, 9:30 am GMT.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Serp on August 23, 2010, 09:48:51 AM
      Order Results:
   
      Austria:
     
        Austria: Builds A bud
        Austria: Builds A vie
   
      England:
     
        England: Builds A edi
        England: Builds A lon
   
      France:
     
        France: Builds F mar
        France: Builds A par
   
      Italy:
   
      Russia:
     
        Russia: Removes F pru
   
      Turkey:
     
        Army at Armenia ordered to Disband.
        Fleet at Aegean Sea ordered to Disband.

        Not enough Disband orders were submitted. Units farthest from home supply center will be disbanded.
     
        Turkey: Removes F aeg
        Turkey: Removes A arm

(http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/2644/dip1win03bld.png)

Next orders due about 48 hours from this post, 10:00 am GMT.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Serp on August 25, 2010, 05:06:59 AM
Adding another 24 hours to the deadline since I need to clarify some orders and I'll be out of town and away from the internet for most of tomorrow.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Naut on August 28, 2010, 07:52:40 PM
 :ohdear:
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Serp on August 29, 2010, 04:37:51 AM
My apologies for the delay, wasn't able to get internet access on my trip, and I've been busy as hell unpacking.

(http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/8329/dip1spr04mov.png)

      Order Results:
   
      Austria:
     
        Austria: F adr Supports A tri -> ven
        Austria: A bud -> vie
        Austria: A bul -> ser
        Austria: A con Supports A ank -> smy
        Austria: A tri -> ven
        Austria: A vie -> tri
   
      England:
     
        England: F bal Convoys A kie -> lvn
        England: A edi -> nwy
          Convoy path taken: edi->nth->nwy.
        England: F eng -> mao
        England: A kie -> lvn
          Convoy path taken: kie->bal->lvn.
        England: A lon Holds
        England: F nth Convoys A edi -> nwy
        England: A nwy -> fin
        England: F swe -> bot
        England: F tun Supports F spa/sc -> wes
   
      France:
     
        France: A ber -> pru
        France: F lyo Supports F spa/sc -> wes
        France:F mar -> pie
        France: A mun -> sil
        France: A par -> bur
        France: A por -> spa
        France: F spa/sc -> wes
        France: A tyr -> boh
   
      Italy:
     
        No order for unit at Greece. Hold order assigned.
        No order for unit at Tuscany. Hold order assigned.
        No order for unit at Venice. Hold order assigned.
        No order for unit at Western Mediterranean. Hold order assigned.

        Italy: F gre Holds
        Italy: A tus Holds
        Italy: A ven Holds
          Dislodged from tri (2 against 1).
        Italy: F wes Holds
          Dislodged from spa (3 against 1).
   
      Russia:
     
        Russia: A ank -> smy
        Russia: F bla Holds
        Russia: A sev -> mos
        Russia: A stp Holds
        Russia: A war Holds
   
      Turkey:
     
        No order for unit at Smyrna. Hold order assigned.

        Turkey: A smy Holds
          Dislodged from ank (2 against 1).

(http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/8145/dip1spr04rtr.png)

I need retreat orders from Italy and Turkey.  If I don't get any orders within 24 hours, I'll assume a disband.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Serp on August 31, 2010, 05:44:50 AM
      Order Results:
   
      Italy:
     
        No order for unit at Venice. Unit tasked to Disband.
        No order for unit at Western Mediterranean. Unit tasked to Disband.
     
        Italy: A ven Disbands
        Italy: F wes Disbands
   
      Turkey:
     
        No order for unit at Smyrna. Unit tasked to Disband.
     
        Turkey: A smy Disbands

(http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/327/dip1spr04res.png)

Next order deadline is in 48 hours, about 6:00 am GMT.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Serp on September 03, 2010, 08:23:51 AM
(http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/9231/dip1fal04mov.png)

      Order Results:
   
      Austria:
     
        Austria: F adr -> ion
          Bounced with tun (1 against 1).
        Austria: A con -> bul
        Austria: A ser -> rum
        Austria: A tri -> ven
        Austria: A ven -> rom
        Austria: A vie -> tyr
   
      England:
     
        England: F bal -> den
        England: A fin Supports A nwy -> stp
        England: F bot Supports A nwy -> stp
        England: A lvn Supports A pru -> war
        England: A lon -> hol
          Convoy path taken: lon->nth->hol.
        England: F mao Holds
        England: F nth Supports A lon -> hol
        England: A nwy -> stp
        England: F tun -> ion
          Bounced with adr (1 against 1).
   
      France:
     
        France: A boh Holds
        France: A bur -> mun
        France: F lyo Convoys A spa -> tus
        France: F pie Supports A spa -> tus
        France: A pru -> war
        France: A sil Supports A pru -> war
        France: A spa -> tus
          Convoy path taken: spa->lyo->tus.
        France: F wes -> tys
   
      Italy:
     
        The Army in Tuscany cannot retreat; unit destroyed.
     
        No order for unit at Greece. Hold order assigned.
        No order for unit at Tuscany. Hold order assigned.

        Italy: F gre Holds
        Italy: A tus Holds
          Dislodged from spa (2 against 1).
   
      Russia:
     
        The Army in St. Petersburg cannot retreat; unit destroyed.
     
        Russia: F bla Holds
        Russia: A mos Holds
        Russia: A smy Holds
        Russia: A stp -> fin
          Bounced with fin (1 against 1). Dislodged from nwy (2 against 1).
        Russia: A war -> pru
          Bounced with pru (1 against 1). Dislodged from pru (3 against 1).
   
      Turkey:

(http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/6369/dip1fal04rtr.png)

I need retreat orders from Russia within 24 hours.  Unit in Warsaw can either retreat to Ukraine or Galicia, or else be disbanded to be replaced in the coming turn.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Serp on September 04, 2010, 07:37:27 AM
      Order Results:
   
      Austria:
     
        Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 3.
   
      England:
     
        Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 1.
   
      France:
     
        Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 1.
   
      Italy:
     
        Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 1.
   
      Russia:
     
        Russia: A war -> ukr
   
      Turkey:

(http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/8051/dip1fal04res.png)

Next order deadline is in about 48 hours, 8:00 am GMT.  And with this, Turkey is officially eliminated.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Serp on September 07, 2010, 09:09:08 AM
      Order Results:
   
      Austria:
     
        Austria: Builds A bud
        Austria: Builds F tri
        Austria: Builds A vie
   
      England:
     
        England: Builds A lon
   
      France:
     
        1 build was unused.
   
      Italy:
     
        1 build was unused.
   
      Russia:

(http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/5730/dip1win04bld.png)

Next order deadline is in about 48 hours, 9:00 am GMT.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Serp on September 12, 2010, 08:49:42 AM
Sorry about the delay, had some stuff to clarify and then forgot to actually post the update once that was taken care of.

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      Order Results:
   
      Austria:
     
        Austria: F adr -> apu
        Austria: A bud -> gal
          Bounced with sil (1 against 1).
        Austria: A bul -> ser
        Austria: A rom Supports A ven -> tus
          Dislodged from tus (2 against 1).
        Austria: A rum -> bud
          Failed because Austria: A bud -> gal failed.
        Austria: F tri -> ven
          Failed because Austria: A ven -> tus failed.
        Austria: A tyr Supports A vie -> boh
          Support cut by Move from Munich.
        Austria: A ven -> tus
          Bounced with lyo (1 against 1).
        Austria: A vie -> boh
          Bounced with boh (1 against 1).
   
      England:
     
        England: F den -> nth
        England: A fin -> stp
        England: F bot -> bal
        England: A hol -> kie
        England: A lvn Supports A stp -> mos
        England: A lon Holds
        England: F mao -> wes
        England: F nth -> eng
        England: A stp -> mos
        England: F tun -> ion
   
      France:
     
        France: A boh Supports A mun -> tyr
          Support cut by Move from Vienna.
        France: F lyo -> tus
        France: A mun -> tyr
          Bounced with tyr (1 against 1).
        France: F pie Supports F lyo -> tus
        France: A sil -> gal
          Bounced with bud (1 against 1).
        France: A tus -> rom
        France: F tys Supports A tus -> rom
        France: A war Supports A stp -> mos
   
      Italy:
     
        No order for unit at Greece. Hold order assigned.

        Italy: F gre Holds
   
      Russia:
     
        Russia: F bla Holds
        Russia: A mos Holds
          Dislodged from stp (3 against 1).
        Russia: A smy Holds
        Russia: A ukr Holds

(http://i53.tinypic.com/55h2q1.png)

I need retreat orders from Austria and Russia.  Valid orders for Rome are Naples or disband.  Valid orders for Moscow are Sevastopol or disband.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Serp on September 13, 2010, 07:36:50 AM
      Order Results:
   
      Austria:
     
        Austria: A rom -> nap
   
      England:
   
      France:
   
      Italy:
   
      Russia:
     
        Russia: A mos ->sev

(http://i56.tinypic.com/5pe5xy.png)

Next order deadline is in about 48 hours, 7:30 am GMT.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Serp on September 17, 2010, 02:16:12 AM
Alright, I've got another commitment coming up in a few days that's going to be taking me away from the computer, and rather than have another long break and then a long grind to bring things to their inevitable conclusion, I think we might as well call the game here.  The game ended up a little less riveting than I had hoped, due to players dropping out and an overwhelming alliance, but still, congratulations to England and France for their victory.  Hopefully next game will be a little more interesting.  I think I'll wait awhile before opening signups.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Naut on September 17, 2010, 04:01:30 AM
Ah, sounds good then. I really enjoyed this game, even despite the annoying drawish play and people dropping out and not saying anything. Count me in the next one for sure. Have you thought about trying some different rule sets? I tried getting jDip running on my system, and even though it doesn't work (I suspect something to do with 32/64bit garbage), the installer showed me a whole bunch of different modes that were possible and I wouldn't mind giving one of those a try.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Serp on September 17, 2010, 04:05:44 AM
Might want to try a game with fewer players, and I'd be willing to take requests for other maps, too.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Dorian White on September 17, 2010, 03:35:43 PM
I've to say that I'm relay amazed how well my plans turned out, not that they are bad but they usually have the tendencies to "not survive the contact with reality".
Anyway, what do you mean by "a game with fewer players"? A game with "neutral countries" like the 5 and 6 player varieties of the default game, or a game with fewer player like Ancient Mediterranean?
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Serp on September 17, 2010, 04:02:46 PM
Either one.  I'm leaning more towards having neutral countries on the default map, myself, but if you folks would rather try a completely new map, I'd be fine with that too.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Dorian White on September 17, 2010, 06:37:13 PM
I see, and when do you plan to start the game? Cause I'm toying with the idea to host a game myself and I wonder if there is enough time for it between your games.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Kasu on September 17, 2010, 08:12:01 PM
Might want to try a game with fewer players, and I'd be willing to take requests for other maps, too.
We should try Asia or North America.  :3

But I'll probably be on board for the next round as well.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Serp on September 17, 2010, 11:41:51 PM
I think I'll be taking a break of at least a few weeks.  I don't mind waiting until you're done hosting one of your own.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Naut on September 18, 2010, 02:30:19 AM
I'll pretty much play any variant right now, so if you're planning on hosting a game Dorian, you can count me in.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Doll.S CUBE on September 18, 2010, 02:50:59 AM
Wish my ally responded, stupid Italy.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Tapsa on September 18, 2010, 09:29:16 AM
I didn't find it logical to be able to support attack from the other side of province because Hearts of Iron 2 :X
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Serp on September 18, 2010, 03:53:33 PM
Wish my ally responded, stupid Italy.

You were probably still in a winning position, even if Italy had done nothing at all to help your attack.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Dorian White on September 18, 2010, 04:45:15 PM
I'll pretty much play any variant right now, so if you're planning on hosting a game Dorian, you can count me in.
I haven't decide which variant I use jet, just tried jDip yesterday and Ancient Mediterranean looks promising ...
(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/8813/dipam.jpg) (http://img59.imageshack.us/i/dipam.jpg/)
but the map is broken (Punic Sea is marked as land-zone only? you can't convoy to Crete nor Corsica and Baleares is not an island but a sea zone with CS) and I have no idea how fix that. I also thought Machiavelli would be extremely stylish but I haven't the map nor the rules and since I find myself unable to import other variant we can pretty much forget about it. :ohdear:
Seriously, if jDip continues to proves itself that "usefull" I will go with the default game, set up my board on a table and post photos. :derp:

... because Hearts of Iron 2 :X
Wrong game/war, Hearts of Iron 2 is WWII but we played WWI so is Victoria II.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Serp on September 18, 2010, 06:49:58 PM
Seriously, if jDip continues to proves itself that "usefull" I will go with the default game, set up my board on a table and post photos. :derp:

Well, I guess that's always an option. :P

I could take any map image, open it in GIMP, and just draw arrows and move pieces around that way, too, though it'd be really tedious.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Tapsa on September 18, 2010, 10:48:43 PM
Wrong game/war, Hearts of Iron 2 is WWII but we played WWI so is Victoria II.
But that has nothing to do with being ignorant with support attack?
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Dorian White on September 19, 2010, 03:30:36 PM
Forget what I said cause I've found the perfect variant, who needs a Machiavelli if you can have a Vetinari.^^
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Naut on September 20, 2010, 10:35:21 PM
Whenever you're ready :V
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Kasu on September 20, 2010, 10:52:56 PM
Honestly, I have no clue whats happening right now but it sounds like it'll be awesome.  :3
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Serp on December 10, 2010, 01:35:42 PM
Alright, taking signups for another vanilla Diplomacy game now!  Also, if we get more than 7 people, I'd be willing to open up spots for Norway and Spain, and play the Loeb9 variant:

(http://oi56.tinypic.com/e0g85u.jpg)

Signed Up:

England:
France:
Germany: Dorian G.
Italy:
Russia: Robotic Doll.S
Austria:
Turkey:
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Dorian White on December 10, 2010, 03:07:35 PM
/in as Germany, f?r Gott, Kaiser und Vaterland! Hooray!^^

That's so bound to fail.
:ohdear:
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Doll.S CUBE on December 10, 2010, 04:35:39 PM
/in.

This time I'll be Russia. For Mother Russia!

Or England, whichever one.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Kasu on December 10, 2010, 10:39:33 PM
Lets do it the English way gents!
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Naut on December 11, 2010, 12:41:25 AM
Je suis Naut, du France.

Late edit:
Perhaps a new thread is in order for a new game? At least a topic change to notify people that we're looking for more players. I don't know how many non-current players actually look at this topic, so they probably don't know to come in and sign up!
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Dorian White on December 11, 2010, 01:47:14 PM
Late edit:
Perhaps a new thread is in order for a new game? At least a topic change to notify people that we're looking for more players. I don't know how many non-current players actually look at this topic, so they probably don't know to come in and sign up!
Indeet.

Also, this might be useful:
reference-map (short names) (http://b.imagehost.org/view/0935/reference-map_I)
reference-map (full names) (http://b.imagehost.org/view/0902/reference-map_II)
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Bitz on December 12, 2010, 03:25:21 AM
Different Diplo games should be in different threads, I think. Although Diplo threads are significantly short, each game should deserve its own thread.

Also, do Mushy and Krakozhia and Kasunagi and Serp and I each win a fifth of a Discworld? :3
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Naut on December 14, 2010, 05:30:33 PM
Perhaps a new thread is in order for a new game? At least a topic change to notify people that we're looking for more players. I don't know how many non-current players actually look at this topic, so they probably don't know to come in and sign up!

Reposting for emphisis. Unsurprisingly, we're not getting any new players, and I'd like to think this is because nobody knows we're hosting a new game.

Also, how would everybody feel about forwarding all their PMs to a mod/host controlled dummy account, where the password would be released at the end of the game, so that we may all read eachothers diplomatic shenanigans when the game ends? Most of this game slips past everybody playing it, and nobody gets to see the real juicy stuff. I'd love to read how everybody played the game.

Quickedit: Wait, new members can't send or receive PMs, this was silly. I'd still like to find a way to read everybody's dimplomatic relations, somehow.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Bitz on December 15, 2010, 06:02:24 AM
The Julian Assange of MotK diplomacy.

I think the reason that nobody is signing up is because nobody has explicitly officially stated that we're open to a new game, or edited this thread title to reflect that.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Dorian White on December 15, 2010, 08:00:18 PM
It's just a guess but I think that our GM is currently busy with something else.

...
Also, how would everybody feel about forwarding all their PMs to a mod/host controlled dummy account, where the password would be released at the end of the game, so that we may all read eachothers diplomatic shenanigans when the game ends? Most of this game slips past everybody playing it, and nobody gets to see the real juicy stuff. I'd love to read how everybody played the game.
...
That an interesting  idea, maybe we can borrow one of this Mafia dummys for that.
Now that I think about it, I've still all PMs saved, but the question should be: Do you really want to know?
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Naut on December 15, 2010, 08:07:25 PM
It's just a guess but I think that our GM is currently busy with something else.

I talked to Serp on IRC, he'll be making a new thread sometime soon.

Do you really want to know?

Yes.

But I was also hoping to see what people shared between eachother, not just you. Maybe we should just start with this game, since I think it's fairly obvious the kinds of foolishness that went on last game anyway... :V
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Doll.S CUBE on December 15, 2010, 08:11:59 PM
I vote yes to the sharing thing. It'll be a very interesting after battle :3

.....Or not.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Kasu on December 15, 2010, 08:26:19 PM
I vote yes to the sharing thing. It'll be a very interesting after battle :3

.....Or not.
Well...  Needless to say, me and Krakozhia were pretty damn formal with our PMs. :3

Also, I think it would be interesting as well.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Dorian White on December 15, 2010, 10:51:39 PM
...
Yes.

But I was also hoping to see what people shared between eachother, not just you. ...
You mean something like this:

Good evening,

to come straight to the point, I would prefer to consider your position before I write my commands but to do so I need to know your position.
You can assume that I'm generally interested in a "friendly relation" between us. To prove my good will and to begin the negotiations I begin with my own position.

I'm open for any request from your side as long as you accepted my one and only condition: All sea area around Great Britain (North Sea, Norwegian Sea, North Atlantic Ocean, Irish Sea and the English Channel) are my territorial waters and naval activities require my agreement, offence against it will not be tolerated.

Thanks for your time.

You certainly have your seas, but this convoy business is tricky if you were to try land on the central areas don't you think? The northern seas aren't particularly interesting for me right now, so what can you really offer?

Yes the convoy system is a bit tricky but manageable at least for me and for my offer, how about "active support for your invasion in Belgium"?

Just what I wanted to hear :D.

That was the beginning of a wonderful friendship.^^
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Naut on December 15, 2010, 11:04:27 PM
Yeah laugh up your half point lead bud, we'll be shrinking it this game!  >:(
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Serp on December 20, 2010, 06:44:51 PM
Ah, drat, some stuff has come up lately that's kept me away from home.  I'll start up the new thread as soon as I'm sure I'll be able to be around to host.
Title: Re: Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Great War
Post by: Naut on December 21, 2010, 05:05:14 AM
Dang, good luck with your stuff.

I'll be away from the forum from the 23rd til new years, if you guys start sometime then I won't be able to play, so take me off the list as France if you plan to start then. I'll have to watch for the next game.