Rewrite Mafia (Game Over - Town and Third Party Win)

[Validon98]

Again, though, overreaction. Of course, the way you phrased it means it wasn't meant as a reaction test. You were dead serious. That's what made me overreact like that, so... yeah. Even if it was just a reaction test, then I would have probably acted the same way. I'm not the voteblocker. I know I could flavorclaim, but it looks like everyone wants to ignore that so I won't.

[Raikaria]

Sorry, that was an overreaction talking there. I do that a lot. >.>
And I never said I 100% trusted you. The only one so far who has seemed 100% trustworthy to me is BT. So don't go priding yourself in thinking I completely trusted you, because I didn't. I merely leaned to town for you, but I never said I thought you were definitely town.

For me, the word 'Trust' implies you trust me. Even if you think someone is town, don't trust them. ONLY trust confirmed players.

I still don't get how you would functionally say "I'll give him half an hour to claim" followed by "he could be away".

More seriously, you had a few ways to respond to that first point:
1) BT, I agree.
2) BT, I disagree.
3) What are my vote options again?

Take a guess which one's the worst of the bunch.

Because it's 11:40pm and my head is therefor in sleep mode? I didn't functionally say it. My brain isn't fully functional

3 is the worst. However, I actually answered 1, and explained I was listening to Huh What saying 'Hammer now imo'. Then I explained that combined with my priority lynches not happening made me want to hammer IHNN. 11:00pm brainfarts.

[Bardiche]

##Unvote

And we're having no quickhammers before IHNN has had a time to claim.

[Raikaria]

Again, though, overreaction. Of course, the way you phrased it means it wasn't meant as a reaction test. You were dead serious. That's what made me overreact like that, so... yeah. Even if it was just a reaction test, then I would have probably acted the same way. I'm not the voteblocker. I know I could flavorclaim, but it looks like everyone wants to ignore that so I won't.

Cut.


Actually that post was a theory post. I splashed a theory down that I had brewing in my head, and then wanted to see how town reacted to said theory. Would they agree or disagree? It was a thought I had, which I needed input on. It was in no way a dead serious accusation [Although I had to make it sound like a proper case, the disclaimer at the start says otherwise].

Which is why I'm happy to not push you now town turned around and told me 'Rai, you're being a hyper conspiracy theory moron again.'

Let's put it this way. In about 6~7 mafia games, I've not cooked up some crazy facepalm theory in... two? One of which I died N1.

##Unvote

And we're having no quickhammers before IHNN has had a time to claim.

Well... I'm not happy with my Validon vote anymore.

Back to Huh What then as a votepark? Lynching 3rds is always cool.

##Unvote
##Vote: Huh What

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

Votecount

I have no name(3): BigBangMeteor, huh what, Validon98
Validon98(1): I have no name
huh what(1): Raikaria
Bardiche(1): Affinity
Not voting(2): BT, Bardiche
With 8 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

You have ~25 hours remaining in the day.

[I have no name]

seriously who the fuck takes this long to claim (or at least post "i don't want to claim yet") as town

Someone who posts and then immediately goes and does homework, and then has dinner.  Not everyone has mafia be their entire life.  I literally posted, closed the tab, did homework, had dinner, came back to this "lol ur scum for not being here".  I'm sick of it.

IRL reasons making look scummy again >_>

I was kind of hoping to not have to claim which is why I didn't sooner.

I'm a rolecop, N1 I targeted Serela and it came up vanilla.  I targeted Serela because I wasn't entirely sure of alignment and figured the scum would likely have some sort of ridiculous role.  Since it came up vanilla I didn't push Serela, not that it ended up mattering >_>

[BT]

Are we talking about the same thing? I'm accusing you of voting Validon for the sake of having a vote. Once I objected to your vote, instead of addressing whether or not you still suspect him (you know, what is expected assuming you legitimately suspected the person you were voting) you audibly decide that you should change options. No sign of your "theory" being an actual concern to you and all the signs of it being otherwise. Oh uh that's actually reasonable.

Since I still didn't read the thread yet (I am secretly illiterate) could you specify who is "the town" that told you you were being a moron? Safe to assume it wasn't just me, right?

[BT]

Don't parse that. You targeted Serela because you suspected him?

[Raikaria]

Are we talking about the same thing? I'm accusing you of voting Validon for the sake of having a vote. Once I objected to your vote, instead of addressing whether or not you still suspect him (you know, what is expected assuming you legitimately suspected the person you were voting) you audibly decide that you should change options. No sign of your "theory" being an actual concern to you and all the signs of it being otherwise. Oh uh that's actually reasonable.

Since I still didn't read the thread yet (I am secretly illiterate) could you specify who is "the town" that told you you were being a moron? Safe to assume it wasn't just me, right?

'The Town' is my term for players in general.
'Townies' are members of the town who are... Green
'Scum' are members of the town who are not green

Raikaria to everyone else glossary.

[I have no name]

Don't parse that. You targeted Serela because you suspected him?

Wasn't sure how to read figured having role info would help.  Leaned town after seeing vanilla show up.

[GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em]

ihnn is the post restricter claiming his real target in case he got tracked imo

[Bardiche]

IHNN: Why not target your main suspect?

[I have no name]

Because HW had claimed PGO and his being third party wasn't known yet.  I wasn't about to perform a potentially suicidal action.

[BT]

Rai: No I mean can you name other people who convinced you your theory is crap?

IHNN: Why Serela though? Seems awfully convenient that you wanted to know more about the guy who already flipped. Don't see the special reason for Serela.

[Validon98]

Yeah, that's not a good response. I sort of got cut by Bard's post, but yeah, target the suspects, not someone who's on the sidelines. Also, quite the coincidence it was Serela, who just happened to be post-restricted. I'm not really buying this claim.
Cut again: How was that suicidal?

[GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em]

i don't really see a reason not to hammer ihnn. the target is suspicious (especially given serela's restriction), there's no crumbs to back him up and he's scummy regardless of claim

[BT]

It's also funny that he apparently chose to believe your PGO claim. The guy he suspected.

I'm cool with hammer but wouldn't we want more discussion anyway? Iunno.

[BT]

Actually scratch that re: suicidal. Uh. That's not how PGO works though?

[I have no name]

PGO passively kills anyone who targets them at night, therefore if HW wasn't gambiting and actually was a PGO targeting him would have resulted in my death.  I didn't want to risk it.

Serela was because Serela usually makes it farther into the game making the information more useful to town later in the game and that I'm usually unable to read Serela.

-cuts-

It's also funny that he apparently chose to believe your PGO claim. The guy he suspected.

I'm not a very risky player.

crumbs to back him up

Not sure how this is actually relevant.

-STOP CUTTING ME I HAVE EXPLANATIONS-

[Bardiche]

IHNN: But if you believe Huh What to be Scum on Day 1 (you did iirc), then why would you believe there is a Scum!PGO (that is massively unbalanced, and if Scum, why claim PGO?), and why did you target Serela when you hadn't really mentioned Serela overmuch? I recall you also suspected Affinity, why of all people Serela over any of the suspects you stated?

Picking someone who's flipped is also "..."

Also what's with everyone saying Roleclop instead of rol?ec??op?

[Validon98]

It's also funny that he apparently chose to believe your PGO claim. The guy he suspected.

Yeah, think a little before coming up with bullshit. Your claim isn't holding too much water, IHNN. I'm fine for a hammer too at this point. Unless you do some heavy convincing, I'm not unvoting for the rest of the day.

[Raikaria]

Rai: No I mean can you name other people who convinced you your theory is crap?

IHNN: Why Serela though? Seems awfully convenient that you wanted to know more about the guy who already flipped. Don't see the special reason for Serela.

Myself re-thinking, and generally being ignored.

Generally when people ignore my theorydumps that means they think it's dumb. Or at least not worth talking about, let alone using words on.

IHNN: Why Serela though? Seems awfully convenient that you wanted to know more about the guy who already flipped. Don't see the special reason for Serela.

There was that thing at the start of D1 about the voteblock but other than that, I'm lost too.

[BT]

Roleclop is from Adorable Game of Mafia. The game you SAID you'd read but nope.

I actually find his explanations reasonable now.

[GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em]

I'm cool with hammer but wouldn't we want more discussion anyway? Iunno.

not much more to talk about really. no point in letting the day drag out

[Raikaria]

I actually find his explanations reasonable now.

Who's 'his'.

[I have no name]

Picking someone who's flipped is also "..."

I'm aware that makes it look very fake. >_>

Unless you do some heavy convincing

Well since my best bet for an alternative wagon at this point is you, you wouldn't unvote anyways.

[BT]

IHNN's.

The only thing that's bad with the claim now is:
1) Serela still a convenient target
2) Town rolecop

Got any flavor?

[BT]

Um, IHNN, quick summary of why you're voting Validon? I'm a notorious didn't-read-this-shit kind of person.

[Validon98]

I actually find his explanations reasonable now.

Uh...

It's also funny that he apparently chose to believe your PGO claim. The guy he suspected.

There's still this. This is what is really damning IHNN in my mind.

Cut:

Well since my best bet for an alternative wagon at this point is you, you wouldn't unvote anyways.

Uh, what do you mean by that?

[BT]

But I went back on that Validon. Even if he did suspect huhwhat no one is guaranteed scum to anyone unless they're scum and so I actually choose to believe that he wouldn't want to take the risk that huhwhat wasn't lying.