Maidens of the Kaleidoscope
~Beyond the Border~ => Rumia's Party Games => Mystia's Stored Games => Topic started by: Affinity on July 17, 2012, 02:52:54 AM
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Welcome to the NHK!! Mafia
Thirteen souls, broken and lonely, lost in the cold, heartless city of Tokyo. Bound by their dysfunctional personalities and painful memories, they are trapped on a metaphorical desert island, stagnantly drifting from day to day in an attempt to escape from their demons.
However, all of a sudden, amidst the beer, the drugs and the pithy distractions, a voice seemed to arise amongst them, whispering hateful things into their ears, lashing out at their insecurities and igniting their painful memories. All at once, depression and despair set in. The uncertain future seemed to loom gravely over them. Thoughts of suicide became harder and harder to suppress.
No doubt, it was all the work of the Nihon Hikkomori Kyoukai in disguise, and it was all up to them to root out this dark influence from within. But with their volatile emotions all in disarray, would they really be able to do so without killing themselves?M
Welcome to the NHK.
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Rules:
0) Whatever the mod says is final. Rules are subject to change any time. Also, watch the anime.
1) This is a traditional mafia game with standard day and night phases. However, important information may be withheld from players regarding the state of the game and their roles, making it a bastard mod game.
2) Days last 48 hours. Nights last 24 hours.
3) Play for your win condition and read role PMs carefully.
4) Prods will be given after 24 hours of inactivity. Being prodded twice is grounds for modkill. If a townie gets modkilled, the day ends immediately. If scum gets modkilled, the day will continue.
5) A lynch will occur only when a majority is reached.
6) Don't quote mod communications. Don't c/mmunicate with other people about the game except when you're allowed to do so.
7) Don't edit posts.
8 ) No talk in the topic during twilight and night phases.
9) No bah! posts. Dead is dead, especially in this anime.
10) Flips, in general, will be given in full.
11) Have fun and live your lives to the fullest.
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Still Alive:
1. Serela
3. Shadoweh
4. dr rawr
6. Omba
9. huhwhat
10. ActionDan
11. Schezo
13. BT
Dead:
2. Edible, Kaoru Yamazaki, Lovestruck Townie Neighbour, followed PX unto death D1
5. PX, Nanako Midorikawa, 1-shot Bulletproof Townie Neighbour, was lynched D1
8. Dormio, , Misaki Nakahara, Mafia Jailkeeper, was lynched D2
12. Bardiche, Hitomi Kashiwa, Town NeighbourCop was killed N2.
7. NekoNekoRex, Akira Jougasaki, Lovestruck Townie Neighbour Miller, followed Bardiche unto death N2, buried D3.
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Useful Links
End of Day One (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.510.html)
End of Day Two (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg862188.html#msg862188)
End of Day Three (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg863342.html#msg863342)
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Role PMs are currently been given out. Confirm in thread once you get them, and don't start the game until it is officially announced.
All Role PMS currently out.
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conformed
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/confirmed
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Confirming to the NHK.
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Edible ni youkoso!
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post
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confirmed
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How do you play this again?
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The only winning move is to not play.
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Well shit.
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All you lowly mortals shall kneel down before Koromo.
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/Confirm
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just realized Edible BANNED Dormio.
locked the door and threw away the key
Melded the lock and turned out the light
and then they were on the same side in the middle of the night
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Hopefully I won't commit suicide until this game ends.
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am I late?
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Confirming all the things.
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##Vote Schezo I FOUND THE SCUM GUYS
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Day 1 has started
You have 48 hours~ remaining (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20120719T2130&p0=236&msg=Countdown+Timer&csz=1)
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##vote huhwhat
NO CAPITAL LETTERS MEANS NOT TOWN
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##Vote Shadoweh
NEED I SAY MORE?
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##Vote: Edible SUBARA DESU
So let me get this straight, this anime is about a hikikomori who thinks people are conspiring to make him a NEET and the girl who gives him a contract to help him labeled 'go the fuck outside you hobo'? I've never felt more qualified to play in a setting before!
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##Vote: Bardiche
I should have done it last game.
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DAN ARE YOU TOWN THIS TIME? TELL ME HOW YOU FEEL. DO YOU FEEL FOR ME HOW I FEEL FOR YOOOOU
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LOOK SHADOWEH IS TRYING TO COVER UP HER LACK OF CAPS IN #21 BY SWITCHING TO CAPS IN #23. AND REMEMBER THAT A LACK OF CAPS MEANS YOU'RE SCUM.
ANYWAY, I'M ONTO YOU, MISSY. YOUR PETTY TRICKS WON'T FOOL ME.
ACTIONDAN IS ALSO SCUM BY THIS LOGIC BUT LET'S IGNORE THAT FOR THE TIME BEING.
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Claim:
Town Lover Mason Miller Vengeful with Shadoweh. Dormio is town for figuring it out so quick
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##Vote ActionDan
He claimed scummmmmmm
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Yes, this is about a bunch of depressed crazies or something.
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##VOTE: ActionDan
RVS is bad enough that we don't need additional joking in it that others can expand on. We don't want this stupid time to last longer than it needs to.
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The same goes to Dormio, whose Capslock antics have gone on long enough as well. Less joking around is better, the sooner we can leave this inane chattering behind.
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The Refrigerator is Laughing at You
ActionDan: Bardiche, BT (2)
Bardiche: ActionDan (1)
BT: (0)
Dormio: (0)
Dr. Rawr: (0)
Edible: Shadoweh (1)
huhwhat: Edible (1)
NekoNekoRex: (0)
Omba: (0)
PX: (0)
Schezo: (0)
Serela: (0)
Shadoweh: Dormio (1)
This votecount is brought you by IHNM's excel sheet. Really helps.
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The same goes to Dormio, whose Capslock antics have gone on long enough as well.
The game started two hours ago.
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Dan didn't claim scum BT, you can clearly see the 'town' right at the beginning. I have upgraded from annoying backup musician. Today this Shadoweh has self-worth. I will not be taken down by the pessimism of those who wish for 'NO FUN ALLOWED'. Instead I shall be the homewrecker, leading you to victory in a whirlwind of confusion and possibly over innocent townie bodies. They will lament me in the dead thread but YOUR DEATHS SHALL NOT BE IN VAIN TOWNIES.
##Unvote
##Vote: BT Is this the best you can do with your opening? Not even reading the RVS posts of the people you're voting now? I accuse you of being coasting to enjoy this weak phase while you can nap safely.
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ACTIONDAN IS ALSO SCUM BY THIS LOGIC BUT LET'S IGNORE THAT FOR THE TIME BEING.
Dormio is town for figuring it out so quick
o/
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The game started two hours ago.
And we have only 48 hours to come to a lynch. The faster we abandon joke voting phase the better. There's no added value in accusing people of being Scum over capslock antics, it moreso reeks of trying too hard to fit Ediblah's definition of Townie.
ActionDan tacitly claiming Scum is all the more reason to lynch him.
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Well he's not actually claiming scum, I believe what he said referred to Dormio pairing together himself and Shadoweh (regardless of what the pair was). I assume Shadoweh wasn't serious, so my response wasn't serious either, but hey.
People do silly RVS stuff all the time, and it's usually for more than this brief period. Is Dormio even slightly scummy for this? Or is this purely to end RVS?
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Are you being intentionally obtuse? If we were 'lovers together' it would come off as being scum, he's pretending Dormio figured out the 'together' part. Bard, you are severely disapointing me by encouraging these shenanigans.
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Why are you defending ActionDan, BT?
Why are you explaining ActionDan's actions, Shadoweh?
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Because I was pretty much joking around and you tagged along in an instant.
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Answer my question, by the way.
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I LIKE BIG BU-
oh wait rvs is over apparently :(
where did actiondan claim scum?
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Misrepresentation should be nipped at the bud in every scenario, even if you aren't assured of the target's innocence. The only way we can check facts is if everyone is using the right ones.
Rawr: He didn't. Do you think he's scum? What about everyone else so far?
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##Vote ActionDan
Hello policy lynch.
Well, not really.
##Unvote
##Vote BT
:gut:
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Because I was pretty much joking around and you tagged along in an instant.
Someone claiming Scum is a pretty legit case as far as I care; You haven't answered why you're defending him. "I was joking and you tagged along" doesn't seem to logically equate to "Therefore I need to defend him".
RE: Dormio, I'm not Pescar with his FPMH, but I think it's Pro-Scum to attempt to prolong RVS by dicking around more.
Shadomeh, is your case serious? I think ActionDan's wording is vague enough he can explain it himself instead of you jumping in to do it for him. What value is there in taking away heat on him for him instead of letting it do it himself?
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Omba, is that :guthahalolRVS: or :gutIthinkthere'sseriousscumhere:?
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Bard, it's a serious vote. (And ActionDan would be if he had done that claim after RVS).
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If he wants to adress it himself I'm sure he will. I don't feel like going down this road of festered misinformation again. You're basically asking why I'm not letting him react first. At the moment it's because I don't want to waste time waiting.
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Someone claiming Scum is a pretty legit case as far as I care; You haven't answered why you're defending him. "I was joking and you tagged along" doesn't seem to logically equate to "Therefore I need to defend him".
No reason for a wagon to form from something as silly as that, would dissolve fast and mostly act as :noise: to benefit scum. I was stopping it before it began.
RE: Dormio, I'm not Pescar with his FPMH, but I think it's Pro-Scum to attempt to prolong RVS by dicking around more.
So you're voting someone for literally-start-of-game "the usual" RVS shens and you're serious about it. Okay.
##Unvote
##Vote Bardiche
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@shadoweh if he didnt say " hi im scum" then i see no reason to vote him. what about everyone else?
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##VOTE: ActionDan
RVS is bad enough that we don't need additional joking in it that others can expand on. We don't want this stupid time to last longer than it needs to.
wat
Not even two hours since the start of the game and you're already srsing it up. Half the game hadn't even posted yet <_<
I'm still not seeing where Dan claimed scum, even as a joke. What gives?
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BT: My vote's on ActionDan, not Dormio. Why did you need a response about my feelings re: Dormio to reach this conclusion?
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Ediblah: Dormio calls him Scum, his next post contains the words "Dormio is town for figuring it out". This is how you can arrive at the idea.
To add to response to BT: I take it you mean to say I'm Scummy for immediately being serious and not partaking in RVS? Please provide the logic to support Scum!Bard (or anyone) will immediately put a serious vote down and Town!Bard would not do so.
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@Rawr, Edible: He didn't claim scum. Can we move along? This is what I was trying to avoid via "defending Dan". >.>
Wrong word (suspecting >>> voting). You're selling the whole Dormio thing as something it isn't. Also, with enough tweaking, my jokevote on Dan would have been eligible for "extending RVS" as well. You can ultimately accuse anyone of "extending RVS" when all they did was post in RVS.
... I think this answers your second post.
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... Are you trying to trap me, now? That was actually pretty good.
Dial back a bit. I tell Dormio that Capslock Shenanigans have gone on long enough. You demand I answer your question on whether it's scummy or "for the sake of ending RVS". I respond that I find it Pro-Scum to extend the RVS. Your response is that I'm "selling the whole Dormio thing as something it isn't" when I never once argued Dormio was Scum, just that it's Pro-Scum to extend RVS.
Unless the above version of events is incorrect I do think you're trying to spring some kind of "trap" on me here by soliciting a reaction and then passing it off as something I'm trying to "sell", and that's rather scummy. So how do you plead?
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##Shoot Shadoweh
##Vote Bardiche
They had it coming
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Also it doesn't answer my question, as "you can accuse anyone of extending RVS" doesn't answer "Why would Scum do this but Town wouldn't?"
PX, is that a serious vote?
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Ediblah: Dormio calls him Scum, his next post contains the words "Dormio is town for figuring it out". This is how you can arrive at the idea.
... Oh. I read that differently. I thought his "figured it out" thing was referring to Dormio's commentary about Shadoweh, given Dan's hilarious claim pairing the two as Lovers. :V
Even ignoring the joke status of Dan's post, it's hard to say he claimed scum in an offhand comment that immediately followed a town claim.
plz 2 less forced anti-RVS postings in future games plox, especially when half the game at most has even posted.
##Shoot Shadoweh
##Vote Bardiche
They had it coming
:getdown:
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##Vote PX
Why are you voting Bardiche? (I'm not arguing he isn't votable, but still a valid question)
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plz 2 less forced anti-RVS postings in future games plox, especially when half the game at most has even posted.
I'm sry, I'll wait until everyone's had a go next time, k? :(
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Unless the above version of events is incorrect
It is.
I respond that I find it Pro-Scum to extend the RVS. Your response is that I'm "selling the whole Dormio thing as something it isn't" when I never once argued Dormio was Scum, just that it's Pro-Scum to extend RVS.
This part.
And we have only 48 hours to come to a lynch. The faster we abandon joke voting phase the better. There's no added value in accusing people of being Scum over capslock antics, it moreso reeks of trying too hard to fit Ediblah's definition of Townie.
This is quite clearly you suspecting Dormio. My question was for confirmation and I interpreted your answer as positive because "Pro-Scum behavior" seemed like part of the accusation. Pro-Scum behavior isn't scummy (because unintentional maybe) but it does support a case.
Also it doesn't answer my question
My answer to your question was "that's not why I'm voting you".
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##Vote PX
Why are you voting Bardiche? (I'm not arguing he isn't votable, but still a valid question)
I shall deign to answer that when I see more mortal souls appear in this thread.
But this is totes serious, we shall see Shadoweh dead before another cop can out himself to kill her.
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Serela: "he isn't votable", so what do you think?
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Worth confirming a second time
##Shoot Shadoweh was serious?
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BT:I think he efforted our ED1 into wonderfulness and in doing so it's not unreasonable that he possibly slightly BS'd up some stuff plus it's ED1, so I don't care if what he did right now looks weird.
I mean, if he looks scummy for non-ed1 things in the future sure, but right now I wouldn't vote him at all.
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I meant "he is votable" for future reference, because "I'm not arguing he isn't votable" implies that. So yeah, I actually assumed you were willing to vote, so this was informative~
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So, BT is town. His arguments against Bard are the purest form of scum-hunting.
As for #25, I wrote the 'Dormio is town for figuring it out' that was indeed because I read Dormio's post quickly and had thought he joked about linking us together. I didn't realize that it was due to the lack of CAPSLOCK from both of us.
@Bard: knowing the above, where do you stand if you compare me and Dormio directly?
Are we equally scummy/townie or do you have a preference for one other the other?
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@Bard: knowing the above, where do you stand if you compare me and Dormio directly?
I think you're worse for claiming Mason Lovers after a game where both Masons (lol) and Lovers were Anti-Town aligned. Moreover, it emphasises a bond between Shadoweh and you and it's rather early to be weaving yourself together with someone.
I guess I have nothing more to say to BT other than that I'm not sure how it's exclusive to Scum or furthers a Scum agenda. I always do this every game.
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If I had a nickel for every time I was 'killed' Day 1..
For what it's worth I didn't think Bard was really trying that hard to end RVS so I don't get the problem. <_<
BT, how wasn't your vote extending RVS?
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BT, how wasn't your vote extending RVS?
This isn't how this works. Let me help you. Shadoweh, how was my vote extending RVS?
I guess I have nothing more to say to BT other than that I'm not sure how it's exclusive to Scum or furthers a Scum agenda. I always do this every game.
We'd be golden if scummy behavior was exclusive to scum. The Dormio and Dan suspicions don't sit well with me for the reasons I've already mentioned. Since this remains unclear, what exactly do you think of Dormio right now?
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So, BT is town. His arguments against Bard are the purest form of scum-hunting.
Nope.
##Vote: Action Dan
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My thoughts on Dormio haven't changed much. It's Pro-Scum to extend RVS but there's no indication Dormio is aiming to do so. His actions still seem tryhard to fit Ediblah's CAPSLOCK IS TOWNIE specific complete with voting Shadoweh for not using caps.
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EBWOP: No indication Dormio is aiming to do so does not mean he isn't doing so. Which is why I told him to quit it. Honestly you're blowing up my "suspicion" of Dormio a lot.
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i'm just going to point out how ridiculous it is that i went to bed at 3 am last night, didn't check motk until 12 pm and suddenly there's already 3 damn pages
i haven't actually read anything yet, how many of these are serious?
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Gee how will I ever prove that your 'joke vote' for a reason that didn't exist that was meant to be a random contribution contributed to the random voting stage. This is a scientific mystery that will be unsolved for the next milenia. Or I just did right there so what are you trying to do beyond make me even more convinced you are deflecting?
huh what: As far as I can tell about page 2 onwards. We've got a short day to parse the wagons out on so giddy up!
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PS my feelings on Dormio are that he doesn't exist anymore. Who even reads two pages back?
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I forgot we only had 48 hours. That's less silly then, I thought this was going to be one of those fucking 20 page day 1s again.
##Vote: Shadoweh (L-6)
BT isn't coasting any more than rawr, Omba, Serela, Edible, etc at this point. Continued vote looks cherry picked, sitting on it benifits scum here due to wagon potential.
Don't like Dan's post because nothing about BT's scumhunting can't be mimicked by scum, and also solid town reads less than 24 hours into the game are lol. Don't think he's scum though. BT looks fine.
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I always do this every game.
##unvote, ##vote Bardiche
I was hoping you wouldn't do that, but there it is. Your first posts being a tremendous anti-RVS overreach smacked of setting up for a future appeal to meta, and you just confirmed my suspicions.
i'm just going to point out how ridiculous it is that i went to bed at 3 am last night, didn't check motk until 12 pm and suddenly there's already 3 damn pages
i haven't actually read anything yet, how many of these are serious?
Basically all of it, sadly.
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Bardiche and Shadoweh are both town and everyone who still votes them after I stated this is mentally challenged. You don't want to be mentally challenged, do you?
So go sheep me on my superior BT gut vote.
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Bardiche and Shadoweh are both town
my superior BT gut vote.
lol
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Bardiche and Shadoweh are both town and everyone who still votes them after I stated this is mentally challenged. You don't want to be mentally challenged, do you?
So go sheep me on my superior BT gut vote.
##unvote
##vote Bardiche
Got something else to say, Omba? <3
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Fair enough, Ediblah. Do you have opinions on anything else or just the snipe?
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Unvote
Vote Shadoweh
What now Omba?
##Unvote
##Vote BT
Lol return Shadoweh's question to not answer
Shadoweh's not doing anything
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What question? I haven't seen anyone ask me anything. BT hasn't returned yet to respond to me answering his question. Do you want something PX? You seem to think I'm being scummy. Outline how this is actually so.
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Actually seeing who you voted I might be misreading you. >_> Talk in paragraphs so you're understandable goddamnit.
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Seriously Shadoweh.
BT, how wasn't your vote extending RVS?
Yes, let's look at this again. Are you even somewhat surprised I replied the way I did? This is not how you hunt for scum. Nor is this in any way town-productive. Lay down the stuff yourself instead of being passive.
And for the question itself. You could have picked on literally any post before my own with that reasoning. I could have called you out for "extending RVS" with your complete nonsense posts. But I didn't, because this is completely meaningless. "Oh man look at all these joke posts in RVS there has to be scummy intent in heeeere"
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There is scummy intent in the RVS. There are at least 3 people attempting to blend in by posting something random with the hopes of being overlooked in the initial flood of townies being townies and not having someone sink their teeth into them like a mad shark.
You taste like fresh blood in the water. Screaming "WHY MEEEEE" initiates my clamp reflex because you are dead in the water. You're the one who said SHADOWEH YOU MUST PROVE THAT I WAS BEING RANDOM. You're not even answering the question. If you didn't have something to hide why would you be so afraid to admit you were just screwing around?
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Of course there's scummy intent in RVS but my point is that trying to snipe at the scum through RVS posts is silly. I asked you to prove that I was posting to bait more RVS posts because that's what "extending RVS" means, not prove that I was being random because that's what people do in RVS. I admitted to joking around like a page ago. I'm telling you to pull your head out of RVS and instead you swing it as if I'm afraid of whatever lurks in my RVS posts. This even sounds ridiculous at this point.
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I woke up to three pages of non-RVS posting in the first 5 hours of D1. I didn't even have time to breadcrumb. And what's this about masons and lovers? Sounds like some RVS jokes to me. Masons and Lovers in two games in a row? Why are we voting people over such an absurd idea? It's not even a scumclaim, you guys should probably back off.
Anyways I have positively no some idea what's going on actually.
BT vs Bard looks like townvtown arguing, honestly. Neither of them really brush off as scum, unless someone wants to prove me otherwise.
What caught my eye was PX's cryptic posting, though. ##Vote: PX. Explain yourself, mister!
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nnr are you scum
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No, just a miller.
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Are you guys for real.
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No Neko, that's not what happened. You and Omba need to stop hardtownreading people this early into the day, especially when both are nulltelling.
Omba can townread people to himself but it's goofy that he's pushing his townreads into people at this point.
Since Neko acknowledges RVS as RVS shenanigans he is over justifying Dan's claim that is being dropped for more recent events.
##Unvote:
##Vote: Neko Neko Rex
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so why don't you have any opinions that aren't super easy?
shadoweh why are you still focusing on the rvs? your point is fair for something earlygame but it's still a rvs point. it's not as strong as you seem to think it is, why are you clinging onto it when there are lots of other people who are currently coasting more than bt?
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first part of that post was to nnr
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Votecount so I can see where we're at.
ActionDan: Bardiche (1)
Bardiche: ActionDan, BT, Edible (3)
BT: Shadoweh, Omba, PX (3)
Dormio: (0)
Dr. Rawr: (0)
Edible: (0)
huhwhat: (0)
NekoNekoRex: Schezo (1)
Omba: (0)
PX: NeoSerela, NekoRex (2)
Schezo: (0)
Serela: (0)
Shadoweh: Dormio, Huh What (1)
Not Voting: Dr Rawr
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Does my opening post have to be a text wall?
Anyways ##Unvote
##Vote: Shezo
Overjustifying? Really? RVS silliness is not worth "justifying" at all, it just seemed like something good to start with. I don't take RVS seriously at all about after it ends, because RVS posts age faster then mayflies and those posts are only useful for shitty breadcrumbs after D1.
I don't see what's wrong with having early reads, either. It's not like I'm writing them off or anything, it's just what I think looks to be going down. Is it so wrong to have an opinion after looking at the thread for the first time for 10 minutes and posting about what I read? Your vote seems to jump awful quick there.
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No Neko, that's not what happened. You and Omba need to stop hardtownreading people this early into the day, especially when both are nulltelling.
But you huh what (I'm sure about it this time okay) Bard and Edible are town. It's not people's fault if people are townin around is it?
Huh what: Because it's better to focus on one person at a time then to scatter your thoughts everywhere. Most other people are commiting the crime of being 'absent' instead of 'scummy'. If you want to like, run Serela up then sure I like listening to him scream, but nothing else has caught my eye.
BT: I'm pretty damn ridiculous. So who's scum?
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Neko are you really a miller? It's not funny to joke about it while we're having serious arguments here.
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schezo is obvtown
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And what's this about masons and lovers? Sounds like some RVS jokes to me. Masons and Lovers in two games in a row? Why are we voting people over such an absurd idea? It's not even a scumclaim, you guys should probably back off.
This sounds a lot like you're justifying Dan had a right to do this in RVS and trying to look like you're doing something by calling everyone out on it. So if you're going to say that RVS point about Dan is useless why spend so much time on it with all of this?
I don't like your townread on the two people who make up a large part of the day since you can avoid commenting on it, that's what it feels like to me. I'm not seeing what makes either town so perhaps you can enlighten me.
Oh hell, huhwhat.
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Neko are you really a miller? It's not funny to joke about it while we're having serious arguments here.
NekoNekoRex does not ever joke about claims ever. Except when he's incoherent and shouldn't be posting in Mafia. (but this is not the case)
I don't like your townread on the two people who make up a large part of the day since you can avoid commenting on it, that's what it feels like to me. I'm not seeing what makes either town so perhaps you can enlighten me.
Is there a way that I can comment on the duo without sounding reportery? Because that's the next logical step in making me loo bad 10 minutes into my entrance in the thread.
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This sounds a lot like you're justifying Dan had a right to do this in RVS and trying to look like you're doing something by calling everyone out on it. So if you're going to say that RVS point about Dan is useless why spend so much time on it with all of this?
A right to do this? That's an odd way of putting it. I suppose he has about as much right to claim whatever he wants in RVS then I am to jokingly suggest a massclaim. How is spending a few sentences "spending so much time on this"? You're the one dragging it out.
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I really want to vote Neko now but I'm not sure why.
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Because he's talking alot and people's votes are naturally drawn to the people who talk the most. Now vote BT with me.
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Or in other words, your gut confused a derpread with a scumread. Now vote BT with us.
Also Edible is town for his asshole reaction. <3
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What the bloody fuck is this game?
Re: Extending the RVS - What the bloody fuck?
Re: ActionDan's claim - What the bloody fuck?
Is this serious, by the way? I hope not.
Either way, I don't like Dan tying himself to someone else this early on.
I have traumatic experiences with scum!Dan trying to tie himself to town!me in magical madness which screwed me over later when I turned into scum.
Re: NNR miller claim - What the bloody fuck?
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Dan is totally not kosher right now btw.
I really don't like how he simply goes "Oh man BT is so awesome" because BT is defending him.
Yeah.
##Unvote
##Vote ActionDan
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You want a giant play by play on the three pages of D1 earlyposting? Here you go.
Early on into the "5 hours since this game began" Bard makes some anti-RVS posts. This is a null read.
Shadoweh makes a suspicious post at #32. I can't tell if he's serious or not. Would ask if it was serious or not.
Bard's immediately following posts sound brash but are otherwise null. He wants to advance out of RVS as quickly as possible. This goes well with usual Bard D1 play.
It takes BT a few posts to actually get that the game is leaving RVS. This does not strike me as particularly scummy, just confused.
Bard shifts focus to BT and Shadoweh for defending and justifying Dan. It's not like there's much else to go on "immediately after ending RVS" so this is mostly null. Resulting arguments come off as one trying to scumhunt the other. Rubs off as Townie.
Other posters simply comment as a peanut gallery. Slightly suspicious for having nothing real to add. (Rawr, Edible, Omba)
PX makes an extremely cryptic vote at #54, doesn't bother to explain it in #60, continues being cryptic. Very suspicious.
Dan Responds. Bard makes a weird tinfoil hat post at #66. I would wonder why he would go so far as to continue his perusal on Dan.
Shezo retorts Dan with a "Nope." Doesn't explain anything. Makes a vote without giving a clear reason. Suspicious.
Edible's vote on Bard is sensible and makes him read as town.
PX makes another cryptic and pointless post at #81. Still doesn't explain anything.
BT's further posts read town. Shadoweh's #81 seems misguided and I would also disagree with his reasoning.
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To me, the above looks like nothing more than a whole bunch of *ayatellmemore.jpg*
So why does the above make Schezo more suspicious than everyone else, NNR?
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In conclusion Bard, BT, and Edible read town, PX and Shezo read scum-lean. Everyone else reads null. Null-reading people should get off the peanut gallery and begin trying to scumhunt.
Shazo's post looks like he's making a serious post but doesn't explain anything on the matter but a quote and "nope". The other players come off as Peanut-galleryish and makes them look like they're just commentating on events without doing anything. Shadoweh is kind of doing this while at least participating, but he still reads pretty null regardless.
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Also because my above arguments with Shezo are dislikable from my POV and they seem like he's trying to reach pretty far for his immediate jump on my opening post.
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BT is town
Bardiche and Shadoweh are both town
But you huh what (I'm sure about it this time okay) Bard and Edible are town
schezo is obvtown
Edible is town
Jesus KITTENS would you guys please stop doing this, the game hasn't even been running for half of a day yet. ;_; We haven't had nearly enough time to determine town intent, so just focus on people that make you uncomfortable instead of people who don't.
Fair enough, Ediblah. Do you have opinions on anything else or just the snipe?
On you? Nah I think my case is pretty solid for day 1 atm, we'll see where it goes. On other people? Meh.
I'm guessing PX's shoot was fake, but it doesn't look like anyone bit on it anyway so whatever. Neko's miller claim is blergh (true or not) but not nearly as bad as his walls of text - whole lotta smoke, don't see the fire. Do not want.
I'm not really following the case on BT, haven't seen anything particularly objectionable in his posts yet. Will reconsider later if there's still people barking up his tree.
Everyone else needs to A) post more, B) calm down, C) read the thread, D) all of the above, or E) keep doing what they're doing. CHOOSE YOUR OWN MEANINGLESS PROD/OBSERVATION!
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One thing I don't quite get this game is how everyone focussed on Bardiche claiming that I was extending the RVS, but the people attacking Bardiche for this ignored the fact that Bard actually thought that ActionDan was worse for doing this at a later point than me and with something stupider and instead continue to question Bardiche about his dislike of my caps.
These people happen to be BT, who also defends ActionDan, and who ActionDan affirms the behaviour of for no real reason. BRB reading BT in more depth.
Also, for Bardiche:
JUST CUZ U CAN'T COMREPEHDNABLE THE SITUATIONAL UNDERSTAND IN TO THEY OF THOSE THAT SPOKED TO THE POINT IN UNDERSTANDABLE THEM AND THEN COMPREHEND WHAT THEIR SAID TO THEM AND UNTIL THEN DONT SPOKE
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I'm amused as how Suspicious > Very suspicious.
If you're going to ignore the quote in my post and just focus on Nope and vote what made you think it was a serious post?
I'd get ActionDan over BT at this point in time, thank you everyone.
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BRB reading BT in more depth.
Great. The next step is voting him.
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Neko read my text SHADOWEH IS A GOOD GIRL.
What about post #32 is suspicious? What do you want to know if I'm serious about? What is misguided about #81 and why do you disagree with it? Of course if you make a play by play like that people are going to yell at you, big posts are made so that people can understand you. That post does nothing to help anyone understand what you're thinking.
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The Schezo comment was a joke if it wasn't clear.
Edible, why's Bard justifying with self-meta scummy if there was never anything scummy about the early RVS end in the first place?
Omba, why are you encouraging people to sheep you on a gut vote of all things? That's retarded
. Forced town fluff imo but can see town faking it for rhetoric.
Shadoweh looks like she's ignoring any valid points BT might have in his defense (which are pretty legit imo) so that she can continue to cling on to an early case, which is how I typically see scum handle early votes they're too scared to switch away from. Also dislike how Neko is acting as if his play can only belong to one of two extremes.
~TOKEN QUESTIONING~
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Omba, why are you encouraging people to sheep you on a gut vote of all things?
BT is scum and so far I think all the other wagons are shite. Easy, right?
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You're also dead wrong about Shadoweh so sheeping me would be a good idea.
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Omba, no offense, but if you want to actually get other people to vote BT it might help to, like... make a case on him.
Because having "gut!" as your reason isn't going to get your constant "Sheep me" posts anywhere.
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Welcome to Your Life Flashing Before Your Eyes
ActionDan: Bardiche, Dormio (2)
Bardiche: ActionDan, BT, Edible (3)
BT: Shadoweh, Omba, PX (3)
Dormio: (0)
Dr. Rawr: (0)
Edible: (0)
huhwhat: (0)
NekoNekoRex: Schezo (1)
Omba: (0)
PX: NeoSerela (1)
Schezo: NekoNekoRex (1)
Serela: (0)
Shadoweh: huhwhat (1)
Not Voting: Dr Rawr
With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.
You have 36 hours remaining (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20120719T2130&p0=236&msg=Countdown+Timer&csz=1)
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Out of curiousity Omba, since you think the other wagons are shit, who exactly are they? Cut by god damnit Affinity fine Omba why do you think the 'current wagons' are bad?
huh what: Is it typically how I handle early votes as scum? I don't think it is. I don't care how 'legit' his arguments are, they sound scared and defensive to me. I will switch once I'm a) satisfied and b) have a new target.
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Dormio actually brings up a rather erudite point (Dormio are you scum with scum buddies feeding you wisdom :V). BT, why is your attack so focused on my comments about Dormio when I'm voting ActionDan?
Omba why are the existing cases bad?
Schezo there are more people declaring Town reads than Scum in the game (unless there's like five scum), do you insist it's scummy to declare having a Town read?
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ActionDan, is your jokevote now srs? :V
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If you're going to ignore the quote in my post and just focus on Nope and vote what made you think it was a serious post?
So, BT is town. His arguments against Bard are the purest form of scum-hunting.
Nope.
##Vote: Action Dan
I'm heavily analyzing this quote and have submitted it to a renowned institution for analyzing the psychology of Mafia posts.
The results they gave me back is that they are unable to determine what is "Nope" about this post, and that the "Nopeability" of the post is completely unexplainable without an additional post explaining what makes this post "Nope"
Basically "Nope" explains absolutely nothing about your vote. The quote is a read and doesn't explain anything either. There's no explanation if it's gut, if you're trying to make a case out of an opinion, or whatever. It irks me you think I should ignore this vote when other ones have at least a semblance that they have an actual reason (like PX, although he refuses to give said reason)
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You're also dead wrong about Shadoweh so sheeping me would be a good idea.
You currently have zero credibility and nobody's going to sheep you. You might want to consider making some posts that aren't complete noise.
It doesn't help that the BT case is uninteresting and that the wagon currently consists of scummy, vigbait and vigbait, respectively.
@Serela - you're still sitting on your obvious votepark fyi
@Shadoweh - a) self-meta is dumb and b) if you're going to play that card, how is this supposed to be bt's scum meta
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Also, @MOD: Is there a reason for your omission of remaining time and people alive/votes needed for lynch?
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@Serela - you're still sitting on your obvious votepark fyi
It's also like 2/3rds of a day into d1 okay jeez it hasn't even been there very long ;_;
For what it matters though I don't really like PX much. Of course, he's also barely done anything yet. (Which isn't surprising because 2/3rds of a day into DEAR JESUS I JUST REALIZED that all this has happened so fast. Normally we'd be on page 2, early page 3 and still buried in rvs right now.)
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So, yeah, outside of BT homing in only on the "Dormio extending RVS" part of Bardiche's posts while ignoring the "ActionDan is extending RVS even more and I'm voting him for it" part, BT admits to defending ActionDan in #52.
At least, that's how I'm interpreting that statement, correct me if I'm wrong.
I have to question, for what reason would BT feel the need to defend someone who had made nothing but a RVS vote and a stupid claim?
Why would BT not want to see Dan's reactions rather than providing him an out, which ActionDan was all too thankful for in #65?
Going to keep my vote on ActionDan for the time being, since I want to see him actually post something soon, but I will state my dislike of BT as of the current.
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fine Omba why do you think the 'current wagons' are bad?
Bardiche & Shadoweh: Strong townreads, so the wagons are inherently shit. If people can't feel town!Bard and town!Shadoweh here, they're beyond help.
Neko is getting voted for being derp, rather than being scum, i.e. typical case of D1 lolshitwagon.
Schezo vote is coming from said derp.
For ActionDan I have serious doubts about the validity of the case, but I'll let him do the defense himself. He's not exactly in townread territory so far, so who knows.
Oh right and PX got voted for... I have no idea, other than he's not making cases. Might as well vote me if you're voting him, which by extension means I'd have to think I'm scum to buy into that case. Which is decidedly not happening.
So yeah, that covers all of the current votes.
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Bard my entire case on Neko isn't that he's townreading people but I don't think they are legit townreads if people are going to pop them off less than 12 hours into the day.
Neko my nope was that the entire quote was "lolno you're getting voted for this line." I don't know if you're trying to be obtuse in what my read there was but it was a bad line and I voted him for it. Clear now?
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Also, @MOD: Is there a reason for your omission of remaining time and people alive/votes needed for lynch?
Seesh, no need to be so paranoid. Corrected the oversight.
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Bard my entire case on Neko isn't that he's townreading people but I don't think they are legit townreads if people are going to pop them off less than 12 hours into the day.
Neko my nope was that the entire quote was "lolno you're getting voted for this line." I don't know if you're trying to be obtuse in what my read there was but it was a bad line and I voted him for it. Clear now?
So you disagree with a townread, therefore you vote the reader, not the person being read? What makes a townread "legit" or "fake"?
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By the way, NNR, was that miller claim serious?
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So you disagree with a townread, therefore you vote the reader, not the person being read?
Why would I do that?
Many things determine if I think the read is fake or not.
What do you think about my nope post now that I've explained it?
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Wheee intentional strange crap done on ED1 and the only ones to bite it are Serela (lol) and Neko (lol).
Still have no idea if Neko's miller claim is true or not :\
Neko, prove your miller claim by spilling out all the details of your miller role, and all flavor related to it.
Your Schezo vote is hilarious, and everything else you've done amounts to nothing.
Serela, you're suspicious because the things I did are obviously suspicious. So much for finding easy scum taking the bait and trying to go easy. Now get to doing something.
I am going to avoid this Bardiche/Edible bullshit. This reminds me of something I've done way back and I want no part of this.
Omba, his last post is just enough for me to not vote him. Thus, my vote goes to.
##Unvote
##Vote: NekoNekoRex
23cutsg2g
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"I totally acted weird on purpose, and it was TOTALLY OBVIOUS that it was suspicious, so that magically makes it not bad, stop voting me"
:I
I'm going to review everything that's happened so far when I woke up tomorrow and decide if I want to change my vote or not. Not entirely sure how I feel about the sudden Neko voteburst, although my own initial desire to vote him is a thing as well, so. I want to wait until I've had a good nights sleep to tackle that. Plus it'll let more stuff happen :D Because :ed1:
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town: PX
##FoS: Serela
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Serela. I wanted more people to vote me :V
Also wtf.
It's already been 12 hours, you want to wait until half of D1 is over?!
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>voteburst
>two people
Seriously Serela?
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Edible, why's Bard justifying with self-meta scummy if there was never anything scummy about the early RVS end in the first place?
Intent. So before Bard jumped in with his RVS-destroying hammer, less than two hours had passed and a grand total of five players had posted (out of the 13 playing). Nobody is going to scream about RVS taking too long after two hours and barely over a third of the playerbase has even posted, that would be ridiculous. However, Bardiche did. The only explanation for this is his meta - plastered conveniently in his signature. Bard took the first conceivable chance to pull the anti-RVS shenanigans and ran with it, ostensibly in an effort to be the early day 1 vote attractor guy who everyone forgets about later on once "real" cases have been made, or something.
The key that ties all of it together is Bard's voluntary appeal to self-meta. By playing this card, Bard tried to give the impression that it was a standard "town Bard" thing to do, but he was too early on two counts. He was too quick to press the end-RVS button, and he was too quick to volunteer the self-meta defense. Both of them together mean that Bard, consciously or otherwise, was trying too hard to look like his Town incarnation - something that naturally only scum will ever bother doing.
Blah blah this level of reasoning is possible for Edible, what do you think everyo(ry
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Getting to Shadoewh
Is this the best you can do with your opening? Not even reading the RVS posts of the people you're voting now? I accuse you of being coasting to enjoy this weak phase while you can nap safely.
This seemed like kind of a far-reaching accusation, which struck me as weird and suspicious.
#85 seemed like alot of tinfoil hatting and being general. Of course scum post in RVS, but it's pretty hard to snipe random scum RVS posts other then anything else. You could make a case for literally any RVS vote post and it wouldn't really matter, Saying there's "scummy intent" in lolrandumb is pretty far-fetched.
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Also yes for the last time I am a Miller. I wasn't sure if I should have claimed it on my OP or not, but huhwhat's question just seemed like a decent oppurtunity to do it anyway.
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Oh, I just read PX's post. Should I really nameclaim this early in the game?
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You know my stance. I'm still skeptical of your claim.
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The Great Detective makes a solid case. I shall sheep.
##Unvote:
##Vote: Bardiche
NekoRex how did you plan on handling your role PM that just stated "You are miller" if not in your Opening Post?
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The PM is more then just "you're a Miller", there's some flavor reasons there, but again, should I really nameclaim this early on for 2 bad votes on me and no real pressure? Last time I claimed early (last game even) people said that was dumb.
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Make that "Just PX and people doubting I'm being serious"
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You're a miller. When the fuck did you plan on claiming?
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I already claimed Miller.
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mmmm that's it? No flavor or anything. Do you appear guilty to cops and innocent to trackers. Like, claim.
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It's quite standard for millers to claim their first post and to post all details of their role.
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Your Schezo vote is hilarious, and everything else you've done amounts to nothing.
I just noticed this was directed at me
Screw you guys. If I'm scum for not being online 5 hours earlier and having *~master participation~* then this game isn't going to be worth playing after I go to sleep because I'm just going to come to 3 more pages of bullshit and I'm going to be a target for not being in it then I'm not going to bother playing at all.
Because you people are so desperate, I'm Akira Jougasaki, Town Miller. I'm an art teacher.
I'm a miller because my brash advice and busy schedule makes people suspicious of me. Cop investigations on me turn up Guilty.
Happy now?
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OKay I'm here but WTF is going on with the avatars? every time I refresh they're changing anywhere from Eiki to a burning trash can
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OKay I'm here but WTF is going on with the avatars? every time I refresh they're changing anywhere from Eiki to a burning trash can
Happy birthday, TSO! :3c
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(http://puu.sh/Jszg)
what the fuck is this shit
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and then edible was kiro
this is suddenly more intriguing than the identities of the scum!
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sonata whar
##vote: px
craaaaaaaaazy thing going on with dat miller claim
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AAAAA AVATARS (I didn't realize it was changing every time at first, because I was Serela Milfall when I came back, and that seemed like something anyone here would have given me)
Schezo:~*~Three~*~ people, not two D:
Also this is adorable.
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i went back to read what was going on and schezo had px avatar and px had schezo avatar and then and then and then i got all confused but im pretty sure i got it right
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Serela who is the 3rd?
Neko that's not even what my case on you boils down to but sure you can call it that.
I'm done for the night.
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haha, Edible got LLD's avatar :V.
Um. I'm gonna get some food and see if this settles down.
But it's so fun refreshing!
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I propose we suspend the game until the avatar shenanigans end?
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I propose we suspend the game until the avatar shenanigans end?
I have to admit, as awesome as the shenanigans are, it's really hard to reread when PX just got Kefit's avatar and etc.
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Welcome to the Conspiracy
ActionDan: Bardiche, Dormio (2)
Bardiche: ActionDan, BT, Edible, Schezo (4)
BT: Shadoweh, Omba (2)
Dormio: (0)
Dr. Rawr: (0)
Edible: (0)
huhwhat: (0)
NekoNekoRex: PX (1)
Omba: (0)
PX: NeoSerela, dr rawr (2)
Schezo: NekoNekoRex (1)
Serela: (0)
Shadoweh: huhwhat (1)
Bardiche is at L-3
With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.
I have granted a tentative two hour extension for the passing entertainment. If everyone is still in mental paralysis by then I guess I might suspend the game. >_>
You have 36 hours remaining~ (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20120719T2330&p0=236&msg=End+of+Day+One).
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(http://sadpanda.us/images/1087070-AXM3H7K.gif)
I'd rather just get an extension of a few hours. And it's not like you can't just read people's names. Some hours of extension should make up for the added effort, I'd think. (Also because otherwise I'd have to wait before the game continues). :V
--cut by Affinity doing just that
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I guess that works too
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Also Edible there's a flaw in your most recent Bard case that you might want to catch before Bard comes raining down on you with fire and brimstone.
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Also Edible there's a flaw in your most recent Bard case that you might want to catch before Bard comes raining down on you with fire and brimstone.
Thanks for the tip! I'll file it under my "meaningless sideline observations" folder, which also seems to contain most of your posts today. How odd.
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Automated Votecount 3: Now with more wagons!
ActionDan: Bardiche, Dormio (2)
Bardiche: ActionDan, BT, Edible, Schezo (4)
BT: Shadoweh, Omba (2)
Dormio: (0)
Dr. Rawr: (0)
Edible: (0)
huhwhat: (0)
NekoNekoRex: PX (1)
Omba: (0)
PX: Serela, Dr. Rawr (2)
Schezo: NekoNekoRex (1)
Serela: (0)
Shadoweh: huhwhat (1)
With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch.
You have 33 (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20120719T2130&p0=236&msg=Countdown+Timer&csz=1) hours remaining.
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Refusal to recheck your case noted.
Okay, then in more plain words: Your case requires assuming that a) No town player other than maybe Bard would do this (which is a stretch) and b) completely ignores a certain recent game that just may have an influence on how he reacts this game. Or in short, it's pretty obvious that he'd flip out at the first sign of :shenanigans: after the way town tripped over itself last time, particularly if those shenanigans involve someone basically claiming scum. Yes, Mason Miller is a scum claim.
Seriously, making a pygmalion case on Bard of all people.
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On a short break at uni.
Dislike ActionDan's refusal to do anything.
We all know that TSO played with random variables to mix up people's avatars. I don't think that this excuses you from making a post during the four or so hours you were active.
Would like to see BT Re: Bardiche.
Honestly, I don't see Edible's case on Bardiche. I also don't understand how Bardiche is a leading wagon at this point.
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Omba, you've had your fun. We're long officially in D1 and you got to comment on other things. You're still voting me for :gut:.
Bardiche & Shadoweh: Strong townreads, so the wagons are inherently shit.
:colonveeplusalpha:
Re: Dormio [and, uh, Bard]: He was voting Dan for a nonexistant scum claim. On you he actually had something, and that something was odd. The reason for what I did that can be seen as "defending Dan" was explained already.
No reason for a wagon to form from something as silly as that, would dissolve fast and mostly act as :noise: to benefit scum. I was stopping it before it began.
Your questions are all answered here.
BT: I'm pretty damn ridiculous. So who's scum?
I would have jerkvoted you for the passiveness if you weren't always like that (-_____-) and uh there's my vote that portrays who I suspect I think that's usually what votes do yeah
Going to try and dechiper these last two pages of null when I should be studying for tests, fun.
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But the thing is, my dear BT, that you're the only one asserting that.
When I looked through Bardiche's posts, I found mention of suspicion of ActionDan for also extending the RVS.
You failed to mention this at all and instead went into a back and forth with Bardiche based on how he claimed I was extending the RVS.
Does this change your opinion in any way, or do you believe it to be a moot point?
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I'm pretty sure it was agreed on somewhere in page 3 that "pro-scum nonserious posts ha" isn't scummy alone. On Dan he had the claim shens which is a silly point and on you he had the whole appealing to Edible thing, which is actually meaningful. In fact, I should be wondering why he didn't vote you off the bat instead of clinging to Dan's could-be-seen-and-totally-is-a-scum-claim.
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Uh, BT. You're still doing that thing where you're voting Bard. The idea that he just might have been doing the policy lynch scum claims thing there didn't cross your mind?
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What is the motivation behind voting someone for claiming scum when it isn't generally agreed on that that person claimed scum? Aside from an easy vote.
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Omba, you've had your fun. We're long officially in D1 and you got to comment on other things. You're still voting me for :gut:.
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I'm perfectly content with helping you hang yourself, thank you.
And again, yes, Mason Miller is the equivalent of a scum claim. The motivation behind lynching that should be pretty obvious after we had two scum merrily dancing through the thread singing "we're scum masons and you won't lynch us".
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Shadoweh I know you're in front of a computer. Get your ass in here and help me lynch BT.
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So yes from what I gather you're comparing the mason claim to this
Claim:
Town Lover Mason Miller Vengeful with Shadoweh. Dormio is town for figuring it out so quick
Get over yourself and start hunting for scum. Calling for Shadoweh to do it for you doesn't count.
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What in the actual fuck. You'll note I'm voting you rather than Dan.
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And I have no idea why.
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Not because Dan is a good vote, but because you haven't bothered explaining or doing anything up to this point but criticizing cases that argue with your gut.
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BT, why's Bard worse than Shadowmeh right now? From what I could make of your earlier vote on him, you could vote Shadoweh for similar reasons and she's been pressing the case in a scummier manner.
I'm not really feeling the Bard wagon at all even after Edible's explanation - seems like a conspiracy theory since you don't actually get town cred for ending the rvs or being an early vote target. If anything, the latter just imprints you in peoples' minds as somebody they can compromise on if they don't like the late-day wagons. Bard needs to post updated reads though.
Don't see why PX is sniping NNR, NNR hasn't "done nothing" since early in the day and PX's NNR votepost did a better job of tiptoeing around anything of substance than NNR has. If I had to join a wagon it'd be him, assuming his wagon doesn't crumble overnight. After recent posts NNR reads derp and not scum, he needs to take a deep breath and re-read. Omba needs to be vigshot. That's about it.
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I don't see how they're similar, actually. Shadoweh's being horribly unhelpful but The only reason I'd vote her right now is what you noted yesterday about wagon potential, but that can also be explained by town gutting around.
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*Shadoweh's being horribly unhelpful but I don't see the scum part.
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She's content to ignore valid points in your defense so she can tunnel on a particularly weak ED1 vote without reconsidering. Also "BT feels scummy-nervous" is pretty weak since the reactions weren't disproportionate and you can say that about most people who are defending themselves without getting mad. Shadoweh you're online right now and can point out specific examples of how he's nervous and not just a townie caught up in defense if you disagree.
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(i won't see it until tomorrow tho because i'm going to bed)
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It's hard to read when I'm sleepy but hold your horses. -_- Believe it or not I'm actually reading other people's posts. I'm okay with the miller claim for now. There is some weird shit going on with this game already. I'm extremely worried that today is going to end in disaster.
And what's this about masons and lovers? Sounds like some RVS jokes to me. Masons and Lovers in two games in a row?
I'm ignoring every time someone calls me unhelpful because in my opinion I am helping point out someone being scum. That's pretty damn helpful. Picking out other observations, Dan at this point has posted nothing (explaining a point that stopped mattering eons ago and asking opinions on it) and Serela and Schezo teabagging Neko for flailing over his claim feels wrong to me. Edible's case on Bard is well-worded but just seems like a fancy way of saying Bard did something he always does then said it is something he always does. He doesn't feel like last game Bard to me.
huh what: Speaking of clinging to an early case you didn't answer my question. I'm asking you to look and answer instead of me telling you about my meta. Implying asking you to look at my play is me excusing myself with meta is disingenuous. To answer your second question, BT's town meta is to post hueg walls of text because he pretty much can't stop talking about anyone. I haven't compared his current behaviour side by side to his scum game yet but I don't think he sounds quite like his town self either.
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ActionDan, is your jokevote now srs? :V
As of your response to #65, yes.
Your #28 and #29 imply more or less an equality between both me and Dormio for being bad by extending RVS. Your #34 is an addendum on your view of my and Dormio's posts in which you give an additional reason to consider our play scummy: for Dormio, you indirectly accuse him of being scummy by trying to hard to be a townie; for me, you directly accuse me of being scummy by tacitly claiming Scum. For my case, it sounds like you didn't really think about that when you first voted me and it was more a post-thought.
Despite my response that I wasn't trying to imply I was scum, your #66 tries way too hard to fit my actions to those of someone trying to invoke being anti-town to suit your claimed desire to go after anyone claiming or implying to be scum. I highly doubt your intentions because 1) claiming/implying to be scum during RVS is not that big a deal (opinions differ) and much more importantly 2) your #28 and #29 imply your main concern was the extension of RVS, not explicitly on the methods used to do so.
You changed your tune to suit your voting needs and are scummy because of it.
Only other person I'm looking at is Shadoweh
I don't find this question productive at all:
BT, how wasn't your vote extending RVS?
and the followup that it resulted in looks to be Shadoweh getting worked up and exaggerating BT's responses (e.g BT 'deflecting'). BT could of handled it a little better but Shadoweh's original questions were bad to begin with, and I don't sympathize that finds BT scummy due to her perception that BT was the scum hiding in the RVS stage, as I see nothing from her to support it besides trumped up charges of BT's answers being "Why Me".
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I still don't understand why you find BT scummy.
Also you meant Px not Serela with the tea-bagging, but I agree that Schezo and Px's pursuit of the claim was selfish, bad, play. Not sure if scummy.
I'm not buying into Edible's case 100%, it's a case, but I feel my reasoning is more incriminatory.
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Oh, and I'm not sure if it matters Shadoweh, but your prince/princess in is another castle.
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I remember why I hated having both class and mafia at the same time.
Anyway, reading.
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There's something I'm really curious about, Dan.
Are you really linked in some way to Shadoweh?
Anyway, Dan's latest post doesn't really change my opinion of him all that much.
OMGUS on Bard and recycling stuff said by others about Shadoweh being useless is his entire contribution to the game, after all.
As for BT, I find him suspicious for being rather defensive towards Dan and the selective reading thing, but this isn't enough for me to vote him over Dan.
Also, for the people hatin' on the wimmenz for doing nothing, what about DrRawr?
Speaking of which, where the hell is DrRawr?
Omba being all :gut: is a thing that I'll be rereading soon.
Dislike PX for rolefishing past miller and doing nothing else.
Okay will make another post to properly organize these thoughts.
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So, uh, how is Omba getting away with a votepark?
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I think I'm too tired to read more, I'll be back in a few hours if I don't pass out.
Being sick sucks.
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Gonna read the pages a bit more closely, but uuuh, BT, Dan claiming Scum was your point. I just said that "Dan claiming Scum" would be more reason to vote him, not that it was my reason to vote him. Trying to misrepresent my initial vote due to "Dan claiming Scum" is kind of malignant, I'm not sure why you're trying to credit me for your vote reasons.
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Dormio, I explained why that's not the case, but whatever.
Gonna read the pages a bit more closely, but uuuh, BT, Dan claiming Scum was your point.
I was pretty much joking around and you tagged along
I just said that "Dan claiming Scum" would be more reason to vote him, not that it was my reason to vote him. Trying to misrepresent my initial vote due to "Dan claiming Scum" is kind of malignant, I'm not sure why you're trying to credit me for your vote reasons.
Gonna read the pages a bit more closely, but uuuh, BT, Dan claiming Scum was your point. I just said that "Dan claiming Scum" would be more reason to vote him, not that it was my reason to vote him. Trying to misrepresent my initial vote due to "Dan claiming Scum" is kind of malignant, I'm not sure why you're trying to credit me for your vote reasons.
Why are you voting Dan, then?
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One quote too many there.
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Dormio, I explained why that's not the case, but whatever.Why are you voting Dan, then?
I assume that this is in reference to the selective thing, but whatever you said didn't change my interpretation of aforementioned actions and so I will hold them against you 'til kingdom come.
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Your #28 and #29 imply more or less an equality between both me and Dormio for being bad by extending RVS. Your #34 is an addendum on your view of my and Dormio's posts in which you give an additional reason to consider our play scummy: for Dormio, you indirectly accuse him of being scummy by trying to hard to be a townie; for me, you directly accuse me of being scummy by tacitly claiming Scum. For my case, it sounds like you didn't really think about that when you first voted me and it was more a post-thought.
This got lost in everything, but the point about you claiming Scum isn't mine, it's BT's.
BT's pretense of my vote reasons is slipping off from over-eager into Scummy territory, prancing around with this point. To couple it with his earlier demand I answer a question and subsequent turning that answer into "selling Dormio as Scum" by way of semantics and my response.
Cut by BT. For the reasons I laid out. Claiming connections with someone so early in the game is something Scummy because if he dies and flips Scum, I'd be looking at Shadoweh precisely due to this claim. Moreover, claiming stupid shit in RVS only invites others to claim stupid shit as well so we have a whole slew of stupid shit in RVS because everyone wants to be part of the stupid shit wagon. The first person to promote said stupid shit deserves a vote, and if that person is further content to look only at the one voting him to the exclusion of all else I'm content to invoke OMGUS and keep voting him.
Of the people voting me I think only Ediblah has a reasonable case, although I'm hoping he won't use it as an excuse to coast through the rest of the Day.
Claiming miller is null, I don't see why PX makes a huge stink about proving it or how he's sceptical. He's making useless noise, along with his joke about shooting Shadoweh and I grow wary. Your vote here (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg859548.html#msg859548) kind of feels like a process of elimination: NekoRex has done something "hilarious" (explanation needed) in voting Schezo, then the rest is 'nothing'. Okay, fair enough. Then you call Serela suspicious for responding to your sketchy behaviour (what?), eliminate Ediblah and I from people to look at, cross off Omba as a vote target and land it on NekoRex.
Seems to me you owe us a case on NekoRex Scum.
I'm thinking there is definite scum between BT and ActionDan, given the former's zealous defence of ActionDan through attacking me for what I said about Dormio initially (and I think you've now abandoned that to parade I was claiming ActionDan claimed Scum as my reason for a vote?) and the latter's votesitting while saying very little about the rest of the game. It's nothing more than an OMGUS vote on me.
Don't like how BT asks me a question here (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg859292.html#msg859292) but does not use the response in any way whatsoever to either propose I'm Scum or revise his view, seems like it was asking a question for the sake of looking involved. The only time you mention it is here (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg859808.html#msg859808), where you portray my case as being your jokevote reason. Let me remind everyone: this (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=5565) is your jokevote, and when I responded to it, you turn it around to portray it as my vote reason and champion it as something I proposed.
I'm not sure why Dormio is defending me, it's kind of unsettling.
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Actually, I'm confident enough to ##Unvote
##VOTE: BT
Getting voted for trying to end RVS is nothing new but the tenacity and misrepresenting to keep clinging to that case here is something new.
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Don't like how BT asks me a question here (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg859292.html#msg859292) but does not use the response in any way whatsoever to either propose I'm Scum or revise his view, seems like it was asking a question for the sake of looking involved.
Actually, I asked that question because between this (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg859184.html#msg859184) post and this (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg859240.html#msg859240) post I had no idea if you were actually suspecting Dormio anymore. Your answer confirmed that nothing changed so.. it's not surprising that nothing changed as a result.
The only time you mention it is here (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg859808.html#msg859808), where you portray my case as being your jokevote reason. Let me remind everyone: this (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=5565) is your jokevote, and when I responded to it, you turn it around to portray it as my vote reason and champion it as something I proposed.
That's enough. It's not "my reason" because I never pushed for an actual serious vote with it. Had I ever treated it seriously you would be right here, but I haven't. You have. You're accusing me of passing it off as your reason even though here you are doing the opposite.
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It's not "my reason" because I never pushed for an actual serious vote with it.
It is your jokevote reason since you jokevoted for that reason. I not once said I voted Dan for claiming Scum, you're the one who voted him for it, regardless of joke status.
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So I'm lost regarding what you actually find wrong here. I jokevoted for <reason>, you supported <reason> seriously, I say that supporting it was bad, you claim that I'm scummy for bringing up the reason in the first place. I never once attempted to sell it as your reason. What I did was say that supporting the reason was wrong. As a reply you shove the blame on me because apparently I'm shoving the blame on you, blame for something I didn't do.
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Meanwhile I'm getting lost in semantics and words trying to think this over. Sounds like a cue to try focusing on other things ~.~
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I cannot support a BT lynch because the primary people voting BT are:
~Omba, who has been less than useless all day and has yet to have a reasonable opinion on pretty much anything, much less the person he's voting
~Shadoweh, who is focusing on a point that I can't comprehend as anything but next-to-trivial
~Bardiche, who I'm voting and hopped on the only wagon that wasn't him
In addition, still not seeing the validity of the case against him. My assessment of Shadoweh's case appears similar to huh what's, and Omba doesn't have a case at all outside of what appears to be snark and cheerleading.
Speaking of which, where the hell is DrRawr?
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I just had to doublecheck the playerlist to see he was actually listed. <_< Oh dear.
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At the moment I take it Omba's mad at me for voting Bard. It's impossible to tell if he's scum so long as he acts like this. ...Which I guess is scummy. Do something please >_>
Meanwhile, reading while learning for big scary tests is a thing.
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It's slightly ironic that the dude I'm voting is the one to get that I've actually made my point about one of the reasons I'm voting him. Yes, still holding onto a case I think is all kinds of bad is part of the reason I'm voting you. The initial gut read still holds and the way you reacted to me poking you is also pretty scummy.
re: Did Bard actually initially vote ActionDan for claiming scum. On closer read I can see how he said he didn't and how BT may have thought he did. But it's pretty irrelevant anyway since in neither case it makes a good reason to vote Bard for.
In other news Serela where are you. I'd kind of like to know if I actually want to kill you.
I'll need to take another look at ActionDan. Suffice to say I didn't like his last post.
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Yeah, not liking Dan but he's nowhere near BT. Or a certain Serela post for that matter.
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Kaleidoscope of Changing Faces
ActionDan: Dormio (1)
Bardiche: ActionDan, BT, Edible, Schezo (4)
BT: Shadoweh, Omba, Bardiche (3)
Dormio: (0)
Dr. Rawr: (0)
Edible: (0)
huhwhat: (0)
NekoNekoRex: PX (1)
Omba: (0)
PX: Serela, Dr. Rawr (2)
Schezo: NekoNekoRex (1)
Serela: (0)
Shadoweh: huhwhat (1)
With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch.
Bardiche is at L-3
You have 24 (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20120719T2330&p0=236&msg=End+of+Day+One) hours remaining~
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Alright, back and somewhat less angry at the game now.
##Unvote
##Vote: PX
PX made a bunch of crazy votes for unexplained reasons AFTER the game got serious, and then went on to explain "it was a gambit baitpost" in his #135, which makes no logical sense.
Wheee intentional strange crap done on ED1 and the only ones to bite it are Serela (lol) and Neko (lol).
Still have no idea if Neko's miller claim is true or not :\
Neko, prove your miller claim by spilling out all the details of your miller role, and all flavor related to it.
Your Schezo vote is hilarious, and everything else you've done amounts to nothing.
Serela, you're suspicious because the things I did are obviously suspicious. So much for finding easy scum taking the bait and trying to go easy. Now get to doing something.
I am going to avoid this Bardiche/Edible bullshit. This reminds me of something I've done way back and I want no part of this.
Omba, his last post is just enough for me to not vote him. Thus, my vote goes to.
##Unvote
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23cutsg2g
He then uses some rolefishing action to get me to spill my role details (which I do because I got :mad: ) and votes me for a bunch of null/bad reasons.
Apparently making shitty posts gives you an excuse to vote random people who vote you? It wouldn't be nonsensical for people to jump at anything when early D1 has almost nothing to go on, making bait posts and then jumping on people who find them mildly suspicious is totally unreasonable and is in fact a terrible way of trying to catch scum.
He's scum trying to kill derptown instead of trying to scumhunt. He should be lynched.
Also Bard is town, we should stop trying to lynch him.
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Neko dear, is there anyone you think is scum that hasn't voted you? <_<
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It's not his fault scum got on his wagon B)
Anyway I'm readin' and stuff now. Without getting into details (Which I'll get to after said reading and after breakfast and stuff), PX/Shadoweh/Omba are bleh.
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huh what: Speaking of clinging to an early case you didn't answer my question. I'm asking you to look and answer instead of me telling you about my meta. Implying asking you to look at my play is me excusing myself with meta is disingenuous.
My answer is that it doesn't matter whether it's how you typically handle early votes as scum or not because people don't play the same every time they roll scum (read: self-meta is dumb). It just matters that it's scummy.
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Serela, the only people he's voted are the only two people who voted him. You don't see the conflict of interest here? 1 of those people you mentioned is a wagon you're already on and the other two are 'people are annoyed at them for voting BT for reasons we don't understand'. I'm proud actually that we've consolidated this much at the 24 hour mark. I am typing up an examination of the scores.
Then why did you ask me to point out something about BT's meta when you knew you weren't interested in it? I dislike being told to waste my time. For once a shitty Day 1 wagon on me isn't happening. I suggest you shove off.
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Oh you, Dormio. (http://puu.sh/JCUX)
...in more serious news, though.
Case on PX:
First off, he doesn't even try to defend himself over his D1 stuff, say it isn't scummy, or it was just shenanigans, etc. (Now that I reread it, it's not really all that bad. I mean, yeah, weird enough for ED1 vote, but.) Instead he just goes "It's really suspicious, but I did it on purpose! And it's really obviously suspicious! So the fact that you voted for it is bad, now stop voting me."
Only response I have to that is :I. But yeah, both his attitude about himself and, seperately, his reasoning for why I shouldn't vote him are both scummy horrible.
The other thing he did in that post is jump onto a suddenly emerging Neko wagon. (And yes, 3 votes in such a short period of time is enough to qualify in my mind, Edible. The third was PX, btw. And even if there was only two before him, more (like me) had voiced desire to maybe vote Neko as well, showing good potential for it blossoming into a full wagon, as well as Neko being someone I could imagine scum going "He'll dig himself his own grave" at, as opposed to someone who would be able to deflect a bad wagon, ~*~But~*~ that part is likely reading into the matter way too far, this entire parenthesis isn't all that important to my PX case) I don't really agree with his reasoning for voting Neko entirely either, as he says everything other then Neko's vote was a load of nothing which I can't agree with.
I'll get to the others later.
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Then why did you ask me to point out something about BT's meta when you knew you weren't interested in it? I dislike being told to waste my time. For once a shitty Day 1 wagon on me isn't happening. I suggest you shove off.
My point was that it was silly for you to brush off my case over meta when you were doing nothing to make the case of "is this what BT usually does as scum???". Neither you nor BT have a record of playing like this as scum. It was a throwaway defense that looked like a double standard.
Those last two sentences read as an overreaction when I'm only one person and nobody is acting interested in sheeping me.
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I'm annoyed at you because you're doing what you're accusing me of, but I'm fairly sure you're town. I will be satisfied if you give your opinion on the current wagons and where you will likely end up when you have to choose.
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Refer to #184. I obviously don't like the BT wagon.
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Those last two sentences read as an overreaction when I'm only one person and nobody is acting interested in sheeping me.
I'm quite solidly sharing your suspicions on Shadoweh. Just so you know.
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Also I'm not fond of SCHEZO because there's been no mention of Bard in his posts aside from when he sheeped. Explain wagon priorities and why you gave up on a NNR wagon when it still had potential plz
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Neko is too derp to be a good wagon.
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I also think the only reason BT is a wagon over Dan is because Dan has done fuck all today and hasn't talked enough to be fosed.
If it were me, I would wagon Dan over BT since I'm pretty sure the same things apply to Dan, just add on the unreasonable whiteknighting of BT as soon as the day started.
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So much coasting this game. Seriously. Pre-amble: Coasting is scummy and those who are doing it are Scummy and there aren't enough votes to go around to lynch all of you.
Schezo, why are you cheerleading Dan as a wagon? Your vote is on a not-Dan target with zero original thought from your side. Are you going to do this thing where you provide opinions and pretend you're reading the game? If you think Dan is worse than BT then why are you just sitting at the sidelines while the rest of us are voting BT? Are you going to come forth with Original Opinions or just bandwagon hop?
ActionDan, if you have time to talk about how you have someone's views about Shadoweh you have time to talk about other things. What do you think of your current vote and the rebuttal to your speculation? Do you have any not-Shadoweh and not-Bard opinions or are your opinions restricted to those two? Are you going to do anything original or just jump onto existing bandwagons?
Ediblah, are you going to build on that case or will you sit on "self-meta omg" for the rest of the Day and call it, well, a day? You say you don't like the BT wagon because of the people on it, what are your thoughts re: Anything else that has passed, such as Dan, Shadoweh, NekoRex?
Moreover on re-reading your posts:
ostensibly in an effort to be the early day 1 vote attractor guy who everyone forgets about later on once "real" cases have been made, or something.
This is speculation, you could also say I hate RVS and want it to end immediately. Outside of "Bard trying too hard to look like his Townie incarnation" your self-meta argument doesn't do much. It looked reasonable enough that I discarded it as such for a while, but I must point out a fatal flaw in your reasoning:
I also attempt to end RVS as soon as possible when I roll Scum as my hatred of RVS transcends alignment.
Shadoweh why the fuck do you have Eclair gimme back my avatar ;_________;
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So yes. I read the whole thread again to make sure I'm not wrong about Bard.
And the post-RVS (aka Page 2) stuff is in fact not as bad as I remembered. Calling out Dan in particular wasn't bizarro because he jokeclaimed, and I can imagine that getting on one's nerves. (*)The whole immediate confusion regarding "the Dormio suspicion" was due to Bard talking about prolonging RVS instead of the whole Appeal to Edible thing (which he mentioned in #34) in #43. That only leaves the weird transition from "you guys are prolonging RVS stop it" to "you guys are scummy" (basically what Dan's vote is about) which is just that - weird, but not sure if scummy at this point (could very well be to get things going). It would be scummy if he's still pursuing is, which is kind of true, but what he said later when I asked him looked convicted enough.
... This is the point where I would ##Unvote, but then there's the voteswitch. Oh boy. From what I gather, I'm bad for (1) asking about Dormio when the explanation was very well needed (see (*)), (2) talking about Dormio and not Dan (which I already explained), (3) not capitalizing on a question (when no such thing was needed) and (4) calling him out on the scum claim thing (which I still don't see as the point was brought up as a joke originally) . This looks more like a collection of things that somehow add to a very convincing "clinging onto his case". Of course, a switch was needed because the Dan vote was far from solid (RVS+), so there was scum motivation for listing a bunch of stuff and exaggerating. So yes, the switch is very much scummy.
Shadoweh is doing her best to convince me that she's more scum than silly. #212 is terribad in which she discredits NNR's perfectly reasonable PX case as "lol stop OMGUSing". Also "my meta" in #189 is baffling. I think the last time I posted a wall during ED1 was more than six months ago. I don't think it was an honest attempt at considering my meta (and possibly reconsidering) and instead was posted to support her vote. Would support this lynch. Oh, and before you say anything, posting walls during M-LD1 is meta. :derp:
About PX's baiting, it's as Serela says - terrible. People are going to have easy cases on D1. Being deliberately ominous so that you'll inevitably (yes, inevitably) get voted for it tells us nothing about those that took the bait, because both town and scum would vote you for that kind of behavior.
I think that's it?
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My vote is on scum. I can only vote one scum at a time Bard.
Do I need to come up with original reasoning when the whole case is laid out straight and focuses on why you're scum? Of course not.
I do think Dan > BT but Bard > Dan so it's not sitting at the sidelines.
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This is speculation, you could also say I hate RVS and want it to end immediately. Outside of "Bard trying too hard to look like his Townie incarnation" your self-meta argument doesn't do much. It looked reasonable enough that I discarded it as such for a while, but I must point out a fatal flaw in your reasoning:
I also attempt to end RVS as soon as possible when I roll Scum as my hatred of RVS transcends alignment.
Of course it's speculation - it's just educated speculation. I'm building a case, not reading your mind.
I see your last point and ignore it out of hand, because it's simply untrue. Your first post in Popcorn (as town)? Srs vote. Your first post in C7D (as town)? Srs vote. Your first post in Sword Girls (as town)? Srs vote. Your first post in PoR (as town)? Srs vote. But when I go all the way back to the last time you were scum (Vanilla Mafia)... Joke posts! Multiple joke posts! Wakka wakka wakka!
So, how's being scum treating you?
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I'm not too fond of Bard's switch either, mainly because Bard cited stronger, less-shotgunny reasons to vote PX in the same post. Given that the BT wagon had 2 tunnelly players instead of 2 derps, it was possible he expected the PX wagon to crumble. Also Shadoweh's case-clinging is a lot worse than BT's so it's weird for him to ignore her completely.
I would vote Bard over BT. I would vote PX over both because his opinions were less than the guy he voted for doing nothing and because his trapping looks more like "hurr durr" -> "fuck off, retard" -> "XD TROLLED!!!!".
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I should chime in on PX, at least.
His behavior is facepalm-worthy but it's more or less what I expect out of him for day 1. He's also "contributed" more than Dr. Rawr (who has like one post) and hasn't spent the entire day going SUCK IT, GUT READ like Omba. Consequently, he's relatively low on the wanna-get-rid-of-him totem pole for garbage posters atm.
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mainly because Bard cited stronger, less-shotgunny reasons to vote PX in the same post.
I disagree, BT is worse for me.
I see your last point and ignore it out of hand, because it's simply untrue.
So I played RVS as Scum once, big deal. I probably did it as Town at some point, too.
So, how's being scum treating you?
:derp: Might not want to be too convinced of yourself there, because I still flip green and that'd make this hubris look silly.
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Why's BT's vote-cling worse than Shadoweh's, Bard?
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Because BT accompanies it by twisting things around, misconstruing things and attributing his own words to others.
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Neko dear, is there anyone you think is scum that hasn't voted you? <_<
You're looking pretty bad yourself, "dear" :smug:
I actually want to get a solid wagon on PX going. The case on Bard is a bunch of :words: and :meta: and voteparks that haven't gone anywhere since yesterday
I should chime in on PX, at least.
His behavior is facepalm-worthy but it's more or less what I expect out of him for day 1. He's also "contributed" more than Dr. Rawr (who has like one post) and hasn't spent the entire day going SUCK IT, GUT READ like Omba. Consequently, he's relatively low on the wanna-get-rid-of-him totem pole for garbage posters atm.
PX hasn't contributed anything more then brushing off content as worthless and rolefishing.
There's no point in voting a player that's not here (the mod will inevitably deal with that) and voting Omba would just be a waste since there's players with actual scumtells around.
But when I go all the way back to the last time you were scum (Vanilla Mafia)
Bard was scum last game.
Three days ago.
Meta votes are terrible and you should stop trying to justify them at once. Especially aged meta from games that were months ago.
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Vote cling is such a dirty word. You're certainly making BT more confident that he can suspect his wagoneer instead of trying to make cute faces at me. You don't stop voting scummy people because other people think they're town.
Neko: I think I look pretty damn good actually but what does that have to do with the question? I asked if you think anyone that hasn't voted you is scum. Don't deflect, answer the question.
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Bard was scum last game.
Three days ago.
laffo
He replaced in, so he wouldn't have had the opportunity to post in RVS... <_<
Meta votes are terrible and you should stop trying to justify them at once. Especially aged meta from games that were months ago.
Au contraire. I brought it up because Bard used it as a defense, nothing more.
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Vote cling is such a dirty word. You're certainly making BT more confident that he can suspect his wagoneer instead of trying to make cute faces at me. You don't stop voting scummy people because other people think they're town.
Neko: I think I look pretty damn good actually but what does that have to do with the question? I asked if you think anyone that hasn't voted you is scum. Don't deflect, answer the question.
You? The summary BT wrote on you seems pretty spot on. I'd buy it. Other players have expressed similar sentiments that seem reasonable.
Why are you brushing off my case as OMGUS? I've got some valid points here. Rolefishing is a serious scumtell, you know.
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Au contraire. I brought it up because Bard used it as a defense, nothing more.
Meta's still meta, and your point is still invalid. Just because Scum!Bard made jokeposts a bazillion games ago doesn't mean his "meta" is totally static and unchanging. You can't use an ages old case to justify a meta vote on him, regardless of who brought it up. If that's all your going to sit on all day you might as well be EZWAGON scum.
Why bother with the whole thing anyway? RVS is already long over, and you're voting him for trying to end it early. So what if he likes to end it early, meta or not? It's not a scumtell. Certainly not a towntell that he tried to use meta to justify it, either, but you could be voting people for actually being scummy?
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So you think I'm scum because it's a popular opinion? I am trying to get through to you that you're not looking at things deep enough. Being easily led and quick to accept public opinion is a good way to be alive in LYLO hammering the last town. Who else? Let's say PX and I are buddies and for some reason I am not trying to murder him. Who else is the BFF in our family?
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But Neko, you are doing nothing but OMGuS.
You're accusing me of rolefishing to try to validate it. Tell me, where did I "role fish"?
Really, how was I "fishing" for roles if you already claimed and I asked for details. Where exactly did I suspect someone of being a PR and then tried to get them to claim something?
Last to mention is how you completely just forget that Schezo even asked you a question and you stopped mentioning him since he stopped mentioning you.
As for everything not talking about you, you just discern as "town"
Serela: Waiting for the everything else :\
Also, it seems my wagon consists of vigbaits, so I'll check the Bard/BT wagons :\
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So you think I'm scum because it's a popular opinion? I am trying to get through to you that you're not looking at things deep enough. Being easily led and quick to accept public opinion is a good way to be alive in LYLO hammering the last town. Who else? Let's say PX and I are buddies and for some reason I am not trying to murder him. Who else is the BFF in our family?
uhhh
- Agreeing with a case =/= thinking something because it's popular opinion
- Why is there so much AtE in this post that's completely unnecessary
- Townies aren't expected to find the scumteam on Day 1!!!!! Really I'm not sure why people act like you need 4 different scumreads to have a solid D1, Edible's only been voting one player all day and he's perfectly fine.
Sure NNR can answer stuff for himself etc maybe but this is one of the scummiest ~token questioning~ posts I've seen all day. It's as if you're expecting more than necessary so you can seem like you're engaging. Plus you're explicitly putting Neko down instead of townie motivation despite talking to him like you think slash know he's town in the same post.
PXcut: you're still bad fyi
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But Neko, you are doing nothing but OMGuS.
You're accusing me of rolefishing to try to validate it. Tell me, where did I "role fish"?
Really, how was I "fishing" for roles if you already claimed and I asked for details. Where exactly did I suspect someone of being a PR and then tried to get them to claim something?
You egged me on to spill my role details, when you didn't even need them. Miller claims are null in the first place, and requiring a fullclaim just so I can say I'm a Miller without people giving me an eye is bad townie play. I said I didn't want to do it, since it didn't seem necessary, but you kept prodding me and going, along with Shezo.
Last to mention is how you completely just forget that Schezo even asked you a question and you stopped mentioning him since he stopped mentioning you.
As for everything not talking about you, you just discern as "town"
Shezo doesn't seem important in the grand scheme of things. He was also joining in on the prodding me for a claim, which is suspicious, but you're worse. Also apparently it's a crime to not notice a question somebody else ever actually prodded me for ever again, according to you. Right.
So you think I'm scum because it's a popular opinion? I am trying to get through to you that you're not looking at things deep enough. Being easily led and quick to accept public opinion is a good way to be alive in LYLO hammering the last town. Who else? Let's say PX and I are buddies and for some reason I am not trying to murder him. Who else is the BFF in our family?
I looked at your posts and agreed with other people's thoughts on them. Is it wrong to come to the same conclusion as others, or should I make a post on the matter regurgitating the same points? Quit your nitpicking.
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It's quite standard for millers to claim their first post and to post all details of their role.
PS: Lies and deceit
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Neko, how is asking you for flavor details of a role you already claimed scummy? There's pros and cons for it (possible information for scum vs. possibility of you screwing up the flavor if you're scum), but seriously, how is it scummy?
Similarly, how is fishing for reactions scummy? I get that you don't like it and think it doesn't work and so on; but how is it scummy?
And btw yes, claiming miller in your first post is pretty much standard by now (I think it is, at least); also directly claiming flavor not necessarily.
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The same how is reaction fishing scummy goes to Serela.
And btw Dormio, you wanted to re-read me. Conclusion?
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but how is it scummy?
Oh hell no, I'm not going down this road again, this is the last time I get caught in that trap. Asking me "Why it's scummy" is like asking me why I don't like it. It's anti-town play designed to make shitty wagons that lynch townies and not scum. Anyone could have been caught by those "baitposts" and he could have made a wagon on ANYONE. If it caught on that would be a total tossup, or more likely, a guaranteed townie if he is scum.
Similarly the rolefishing was asking me for more then I intended to spill. Pressing me further when there's no pressure or reason to do it. Why does a townie need flavor or a fullclaim? He wanted ALL the details of my role. Town doesn't need to know if I have other powers.
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ActionDan, if you have time to talk about how you have someone's views about Shadoweh you have time to talk about other things. What do you think of your current vote and the rebuttal to your speculation? Do you have any not-Shadoweh and not-Bard opinions or are your opinions restricted to those two? Are you going to do anything original or just jump onto existing bandwagons?
Both you and Shadoweh are my scum reads and I'm going to be pushing both of you. I am not overly concerned with everyone else. Suffice it to say that I am unimpressed by PX/Dormio/Schezo/Omba and think the NNR and especially the BT wagon are both bad. I have not yet made a judgement on PX but I will vote Shadoweh and You before I ever consider voting PX.
FYI, I was at work or else I would have responded sooner.
Your "rebuttal" is awful. It's literally flailing. Recap:
Your #28 and #29 imply more or less an equality between both me and Dormio for being bad by extending RVS. Your #34 is an addendum on your view of my and Dormio's posts in which you give an additional reason to consider our play scummy: for Dormio, you indirectly accuse him of being scummy by trying to hard to be a townie; for me, you directly accuse me of being scummy by tacitly claiming Scum. For my case, it sounds like you didn't really think about that when you first voted me and it was more a post-thought.
Despite my response that I wasn't trying to imply I was scum, your #66 tries way too hard to fit my actions to those of someone trying to invoke being anti-town to suit your claimed desire to go after anyone claiming or implying to be scum. I highly doubt your intentions because 1) claiming/implying to be scum during RVS is not that big a deal (opinions differ) and much more importantly 2) your #28 and #29 imply your main concern was the extension of RVS, not explicitly on the methods used to do so.
You changed your tune to suit your voting needs and are scummy because of it.
This got lost in everything, but the point about you claiming Scum isn't mine, it's BT's.
This is the extent of your "rebuttal":
1) I credited you your original reason for your vote, namely, "being bad by extending RVS"
2) BT might have jokingly brought it up, you used it unprompted to continue justifying your vote
3) It might as well have been your original reason ---->
And we have only 48 hours to come to a lynch. The faster we abandon joke voting phase the better. There's no added value in accusing people of being Scum over capslock antics, it moreso reeks of trying too hard to fit Ediblah's definition of Townie.
ActionDan tacitly claiming Scum is all the more reason to lynch him.
I just said that "Dan claiming Scum" would be more reason to vote him, not that it was my reason to vote him.
I think you're worse for claiming Mason Lovers after a game where both Masons (lol) and Lovers were Anti-Town aligned. Moreover, it emphasises a bond between Shadoweh and you and it's rather early to be weaving yourself together with someone.
You are clearly saying that I am bad for claiming something that invokes a scum claim.
Read the last two lines of the the 2nd paragraph in my case and tell me how you think you could have possibly have rebuked that with your one-liner response.
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Welcome to the Guillotine
ActionDan: Dormio (1)
Bardiche: ActionDan, BT, Edible, Schezo (4)
BT: Shadoweh, Omba, Bardiche (3)
Dormio: (0)
Dr. Rawr: (0)
Edible: (0)
huhwhat: (0)
NekoNekoRex: PX (1)
Omba: (0)
PX: Serela, Dr. Rawr, NekoNekoRex (3)
Schezo: (0)
Serela: (0)
Shadoweh: huhwhat (1)
With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch.
Bardiche is at L-3
You have 16 (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20120719T2330&p0=236&msg=End+of+Day+One) hours remaining.
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It's quite standard for millers to claim their first post and to post all details of their role.
Px you mispoke here even though earlier you did explictly say you wanted details only to the miller part.
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Why is the deadline or lynch always at some godawful hour in the morning? Does every mod live in Australia or something?
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Asking me "Why it's scummy" is like asking me why I don't like it.
Nope. To qualify as being scummy, it needs to be something that's actually more likely to be done by scum rather than town, -not- something you wouldn't do if you're town. (Incidentally this also the reason why lynch all lurkers is rarely employed D1 unless there's really nothing else to go on - it just happens to hit town rather than scum way too often).
Like, just look at D1&2 of last game. Should be proof enough that, yes, town can do reaction fishing.
Similarly the rolefishing was asking me for more then I intended to spill. Pressing me further when there's no pressure or reason to do it. Why does a townie need flavor or a fullclaim? He wanted ALL the details of my role. Town doesn't need to know if I have other powers.
On a quick re-read, I only see PX asking you if you appear guilty to anything other than cops (if I missed something here, tell me). The reason for also claiming this is the same as for claiming miller in the first place (i.e. not having someone waste an investigation / track / whatever on you / avoiding a false scum result and the lynch that goes with it). The possible (although debatable) reason for asking you to claim flavor I already stated - it's possible for scum to screw something up in the flavor and subsequently get lynched for it.
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Uh. Yeah, that is actually something.
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Px you mispoke here even though earlier you did explictly say you wanted details only to the miller part.
Because details of their role is clearly not details of the miller part?
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I agree with Huhwhat's #240 100%.
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Px if Neko is something more than a miller it could be interpreted that way. Neko is thick-skulled just like yourself, so these lovely misunderstandings spring up more often than they should. Explicit flavor details can sometimes give-away if there is more to a role like that or not.
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Read over it again. I believe PX on that one, doesn't read like he tried to trick Neko into claiming stuff outside the miller role.
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Nope. To qualify as being scummy, it needs to be something that's actually more likely to be done by scum rather than town, -not- something you wouldn't do if you're town. (Incidentally this also the reason why lynch all lurkers is rarely employed D1 unless there's really nothing else to go on - it just happens to hit town rather than scum way too often).
Like, just look at D1&2 of last game. Should be proof enough that, yes, town can do reaction fishing.
Town can do reaction fishing, but PX's reaction fishing was hardly any good. His results were more along the lines of trolling then actually trying to catch scum. "Lol suspicious posts" =>"THESE ARE SUSPICIOUS" => "LOL TROLLED xD"
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Town can do reaction fishing, but PX's reaction fishing was hardly any good. His results were more along the lines of trolling then actually trying to catch scum. "Lol suspicious posts" =>"THESE ARE SUSPICIOUS" => "LOL TROLLED xD"
you literally just pulled a J.O.B
@Omba, I agree the intent of what Px/Schezo did isn't scummy.
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you literally just pulled a J.O.B
@Omba, I agree the intent of what Px/Schezo did isn't scummy.
Not everyone can read minds, I've never seen the acronym JOB before.
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Not everyone can read minds, I've never seen the acronym JOB before.
eh don't worry about it.
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Well, PX is our resident troll, so.
That aside, it's natural that reaction fishing will not net useful or at the very least not very useful results part of the time, moreso if you don't do it in the explosive style of a certain player. I only got interesting reactions for part of the things I included into my postings, too. Given that PX didn't go all "Serela must absolutely be scum because of this", I still don't get how that makes him scum.
Asking people questions will only net useful answers part of the time, too.
Dan: That's reasonable and somewhat unexpected. Actually, I'm not going to support a Dan lynch today after this.
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Neko: JOB is someone you're best of never reading or playing with. :V
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Neko: JOB is someone you're best of never reading or playing with
Come again? That doesn't explain what the letters mean.
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Come again? That doesn't explain what the letters mean.
It's a player with that exact name. There's a few games in the archives where he participated if you want to know further details. Vanilla Mafia II is one of those, if I remember correctly.
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This game isn't moving along anywhere...
I almost want to put a vote down on Shadoweh if my case on PX isn't going to gain any more ground.
In fact I may do just that soon enough.
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BT is still scum btw.
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What's the dirt on him again? It's been like 6 hours since anyone has even mentioned him.
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Neko: :I
PX is a viable wagon (He has 3 votes and HW has voiced that he would most likely get on PX upon consolidating to wagons) and moving your vote off him onto someone else would be :C.
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Neko: He's been holding onto his Bard vote for horrible reasoning all game, for more details read the last few of Bard's posts, he's summarized it pretty well already.
You could also trust my gut if you happen to feel more comfortable with that.
Oh Serela, so you are here. Still waiting on things that tell me if I want you dead.
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Welcome to the Summer Days
ActionDan: Dormio (1)
Bardiche: BT, Edible, Schezo, ActionDan (4)
BT: Shadoweh, Omba, Bardiche (3)
Dormio: (0)
Dr. Rawr: (0)
Edible: (0)
huhwhat: (0)
NekoNekoRex: PX (1)
Omba: (0)
PX: Serela, Dr. Rawr, NekoNekoRex (3)
Schezo: (0)
Serela: (0)
Shadoweh: huhwhat (1)
With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch.
Bardiche is at L-3
You have 16 (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20120719T2330&p0=236&msg=End+of+Day+One) hours remaining.
Rules have been updated for some clarification on modkills (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.0.html)
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I'm waiting on a PX contentpost (>posting content >px but whatever) before I consider switching. If it never comes I'll probably switch anyway.
Neko, how much attention have you been paying to votecounts? Serious question.
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Similarly, I'd like Serela to complete those cases he promised earlier.
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o lol technically I unvoted affinity but didn't revote properly
##Vote: Bard
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Not everyone can read minds, I've never seen the acronym JOB before.
I have to admit I laughed out loud at this.
Huh what: I wasn't asking you. I am talking to Neko like I think I'm addressing a townie because I think he's a townie. And kind of adorable. Also you look scary with Zakeri's avatar. I'm asking him for another option because the one he presented is me. Why are you so acting so surprised I don't want to hear this? When you're town you act really paranoid in your deductions, this is why I think you're town in the first place. It's kind of -.- to deal with. This must be karma.
Can you explain to me why it's okay for Edible to have only held onto one vote all day while you're pursuing me for a similar reason?
That update on modkills is interesting. Someone else has been asking questions~
Being cut 27 times must be what being PX feels like.
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Can you explain to me why it's okay for Edible to have only held onto one vote all day while you're pursuing me for a similar reason?
Edible's point is stronger and most of the defense is subjective, so it makes sense for him to continue to push it. You're holding onto a weak ED1 point in spite of reasonable explanations why it's not very decisive, and to my knowledge, you still haven't explained how BT is nervous instead of just acting like a defensive person would act. This gets worse with < 24 hours left in the day and you've done little to address BT's recent content or reevaluate your case in light of it.
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I'm waiting on a PX contentpost (>posting content >px but whatever) before I consider switching. If it never comes I'll probably switch anyway.
Neko, how much attention have you been paying to votecounts? Serious question.
Considering it hasn't moved half the entire day, it's been about where I expect it to be. I've been paying attention to it, though.
The three votes on PX are nice but one of them is Rawr and he hasn't been around much today, so I've been under the impression it's not as valid as I would like it to be.
I still want PX lynched but I don't think it's going to happen even with HW support >_>
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That's fair enough. I'm currently rereading over BT to see if I still feel the same way. I am feeling heavy dislike for Mr. Action and might switch just to stop him from getting his way with Bardiche. PX is more full and covered in derps then hateable though.
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I'm currently rereading over BT to see if I still feel the same way.
...were you just, like, not reading him at all since post #85? That's seriously what it looks like and one of the main reasons I think you look so scummy atm.
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I'm trying not to be insulted but seriously how bad at mafia do you think I am? -_-
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So, Shadoweh. Reached a conclusion on BT?
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so uh where are those posts people have been promising? I won't be around for deadline and if all the action is after I've gone to bed then I'm gonna be pissed. Also rawr need to be prodded I'm p sure
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Alright, time for me to try to piece together what's actually been happening in this game since I have some time before my next lecture.
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dr rawr has been prodded.
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pretty sure bardiche is town(screw you if you say its still early)
:effort: to get an actual read on shadoweh
im getting a scum read on neko but im also seeing PX as scum. Seeing as neko is gonna hop off px for ??? leaning both as scum
actiondan leaning town
dormio is null
edible leaning town
huh what leaning town
omba leaning scum
serela is null
bt leaning town
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THE AVATARS RETURN
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This feels awkward for some reason.
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If you must know I've been having an argument about Shadowrun mechanics for four hours and haven't gotten any reading done. <_< I'm also feeling sleepy. I don't think my post will look like english by the time I get to it.
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The Crash After the High
ActionDan: Dormio (1)
Bardiche: BT, Edible, Schezo, ActionDan (4)
BT: Shadoweh, Omba, Bardiche (3)
Dormio: (0)
Dr. Rawr: (0)
Edible: (0)
huhwhat: (0)
NekoNekoRex: PX (1)
Omba: (0)
PX: Serela, Dr. Rawr, NekoNekoRex (3)
Schezo: (0)
Serela: (0)
Shadoweh: huhwhat (1)
Danger of committing suicide due to boredom: dr rawr.
With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch.
Bardiche is at L-3
You have 12 (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20120719T2330&p0=236&msg=End+of+Day+One) hours remaining.
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If you must know I've been having an argument about Shadowrun mechanics for four hours and haven't gotten any reading done. <_< I'm also feeling sleepy. I don't think my post will look like english by the time I get to it.
:cool:
:great:
:wow:
If you sleep now then D1 will be over by the time you're back up, so you're aware
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Holy fuck why is BT a wagon?
I mean seriously, I'm reading this crap and I'm as confused as BT is.
And those saying reaction baiting is scum.
Think about it. People react differently. The key is to figure out which reactions are town and which ones are scum. How is this inherently scummy?
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Going to bed shortly, will be around for deadline. Prefer a Bardiche lynch over anything else, I don't really see any other viable lynches today as the other wagons are kinda fruitless.
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I'm not getting anything done while at uni, so I'll be back in a couple of hours when classes are over and I'm at home.
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Rawr can you like.. post more? I don't think that suicide counter is dicking around.
I have slept for 12 hours on occasion but I don't think now is one of those times. Thanks for the feedback, it helped assert dick all.
PX what the dick are you talking about?
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I think a Bard lynch is a bad idea, if any wagons come to fruition his would be the least likely to flip scum, imo.
Apparently I have 10 hours to get some sleep before deadline. I will be extremely displeased if someone gets a hammer off before then.
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Shadoweh are you dreaming of dicks.
Dream of BT's cold body hanging on a long string of rope instead. With lots of flies buzzing around him.
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Rawr can you like.. post more? I don't think that suicide counter is dicking around.
probably
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Wtf is this BT wagon, and why does he deserve to die? I have absolutely no idea wtf is going on in all the cases on him. Something about RVS, Dan, and Dormio.
Why are you brushing off my case as OMGUS? I've got some valid points here. Rolefishing is a serious scumtell, you know.
Please. When was the last time an accusation of rolefishing was actually correct and when was the last time it was actually scum doing it?
As for my wagon, we have Neko who is attacking everyone who even tries to refute him, declare them scum, and basically declares everything else town. So much for opinions.
Then we have Serela, who is literally Neko's shadow.
And Rawr. :\
Huhwhat, I am getting weird feelings about because he is not leading the town, hard pushing cases. This is what I expect him to do as town, but he's not as memorable so far in this game.
As for the Bardiche wagon, I am also confused. :\
Why does a lot of the things I'm reading mention RVS?
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Okay PX is town. Sadface.
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Since I -didn't- get to bed at a reasonable time (again ;_;), it's likely I won't wake up by deadline, so I guess now I have to decide which of the other wagons I'd rather get on. More ;_;. *Read*
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Too late in the day for the Shadoweh wagon to take off. I wrote this summary of it earlier but got cut by her saying stuff and it's going to need to be reconsidered when she finishes her re-read, but I'll post it anyway for people who haven't really been keeping up with my posts:
Summary of case for scum!Shadoweh:
- She's leaving down a weak ED1 vote but ignoring defenses and not continuing to build her case now that it's a wagon
- Her defensive posts have mainly contained discouraging adhoms and have ignored actual criticism against her BT case
- The last time she talked about who is scum and why was post #85
At the moment she's not really scumhunting or anything and people shouldn't be letting her get away with this. Bard, BT, etc. at least keep up with the game state instead of ignoring their cases and only posting to respond to accusations.
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##Vote: PX (L-3) (L-4)
I Would Like To Work On Consolidating Wagons. Also holy shit you still somehow have less content than the person you're voting for doing what "basically amounts to nothing", why are you not playing the game. Recent post is worthless since you're not actually trying to dissuade the BT wagon and also your trapping sucked because it wasn't the sort of polarizing thing that gets a bunch of reactions, not to mention that you barely even did anything with the reactions you got anyway.
WHOOPS I GOT CUT BY PX
okay he's still being scummy-useless good to know
Cut by Serela yeah nnnnnope
This day is boiling down to Bad Wagon and Mediocre Wagon I Don't Feel Confident On and I hate it.
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Also I can't name any games here off the top of my head where I was a town leader figure on D1, except maybe Diablo. In any case I was gonna push my case more earlier (hence that summary) but then Shadoweh cut me and eventually promised a re-read so I held off thinking she'd be done pretty soon. Then she wasn't and now it's too late to gather support against her.
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Serela why is PX town?
Are you his scumbuddy????????
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huh what is town for choice of words. Although I won't ever be able to use this tell after this.
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Also I can't name any games here off the top of my head where I was a town leader figure on D1, except maybe Diablo. In any case I was gonna push my case more earlier (hence that summary) but then Shadoweh cut me and eventually promised a re-read so I held off thinking she'd be done pretty soon. Then she wasn't and now it's too late to gather support against her.
Pretty sure me + Neko + BT would support.
I'd take that offer over this PX wagon. which to me is filling in for your "Mediocre wagon" comparison. (which I'm guessing is the Bard wagon for you.. why is that again?)
I'll be here for while.
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So who IS here during deadline and who ISN'T here during deadline?
This needs to be made clear first thing.
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As for me I have that almighty test that falls right before deadline so I'll be absent for the last 3-4 hours. ^_^
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I'll be here for like an 1-2 hours. Deadline is in like 8.5 hours from now right? I *might* be here like 1/2 hour before, but I can't count on that.
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Also Mod: What happens if no majority is reached by deadline?
I'll most likely be here for deadline.
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Awaiting the Gallows
ActionDan: Dormio (1)
Bardiche: BT, Edible, Schezo, ActionDan (4)
BT: Shadoweh, Omba, Bardiche (3)
Dormio: (0)
Dr. Rawr: (0)
Edible: (0)
huhwhat: (0)
NekoNekoRex: PX (1)
Omba: (0)
PX: Dr. Rawr, NekoNekoRex, huhwhat (3)
Schezo: (0)
Serela: (0)
Shadoweh: (0)
Not Voting: Serela
With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch.
You have ~10 (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20120719T2330&p0=236&msg=End+of+Day+One) hours remaining.
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On second thought maybe I overreacted about PX's post :/
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I haven't played a game with PX in so long and he barely existed in most of the ones he WAS a part of, which isn't helping.
Cut by support for a shadoweh wagon? I should reread her. Forward to yayness!
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Well uh PX ?_?'ing at all the wagons gives him leeway to vote anything he wants but he's okay otherwise. Don't feel the Urge to Lynch.
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5) A lynch will occur only when a majority is reached.
No majority = no lynch.
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I'll stay awake as long as I can, but I'm definitely sleeping through a 8:30 deadline :/
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In which case you might want to know that a NNR lynch isn't happening.
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Pretty sure me + Neko + BT would support.
Yeah, but you and BT are more interested in the Bard wagon, which is unlikely to die.
I don't feel confident on the Bard wagon because none of the points seem that strong to me. Have already covered Edible's point. Don't think Bard was changing his tune to suit his needs because it's more likely he just got his reads over people extending RVS, used his logic from #66 to decide which is scummier. Scummiest content is in his voteswitch buuuut he could have easily kept his vote on you with "Dan checked in but didn't post anything when he could have" as an excuse so I don't see as much scum intent in it as I do in Shadoweh's play or PX's play.
Reason I like the PX wagon is because his effort isn't really town. Most of his opinions are fluff reads and he doesn't go out of his way to do anything pro-town with them, like how he basically ignored the results of his reaction test. He strongly dislikes the BT wagon but doesn't do anything to stop it and puts off giving the Bard wagon a proper readthrough. Anything townie he's done really only looks good on the surface. Also there's that whole Neko votepark when he has less content than Neko too.
I can set my alarm for about an hour to 30 minutes before deadline but will go back to sleep if activity dies down and there's a chance I'll sleep through it.
CUT: serela you fuck that does not explain why you thought px was town. explain why you thought px was town. seriously, are you scum
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\Scummiest content is in his voteswitch buuuut he could have easily kept his vote on you with "Dan checked in but didn't post anything when he could have" as an excuse so I don't see as much scum intent in it as I do in Shadoweh's play or PX's play.
Well, as you say, it would have been an excuse.
Cut by BT. For the reasons I laid out. Claiming connections with someone so early in the game is something Scummy because if he dies and flips Scum, I'd be looking at Shadoweh precisely due to this claim. Moreover, claiming stupid shit in RVS only invites others to claim stupid shit as well so we have a whole slew of stupid shit in RVS because everyone wants to be part of the stupid shit wagon. The first person to promote said stupid shit deserves a vote, and if that person is further content to look only at the one voting him to the exclusion of all else I'm content to invoke OMGUS and keep voting him.
The vote is still pretty much the same RVS stuff. No doubt people would have called him out on it had he stayed with it.
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Will not support a Bard or Shadoweh lynch unless we no lynch otherwise. Very much torn on PX and Dan, guess I'll need to stare at their posts to see which I'd choose. Although PX seems much more likely by now so eh.
All of those wagons are very much shite, though, so I'd rather you join me on BT. Seriously. Just do it.
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There's something I'm really curious about, Dan.
Are you really linked in some way to Shadoweh?
Anyway, Dan's latest post doesn't really change my opinion of him all that much.
OMGUS on Bard and recycling stuff said by others about Shadoweh being useless is his entire contribution to the game, after all.
As for BT, I find him suspicious for being rather defensive towards Dan and the selective reading thing, but this isn't enough for me to vote him over Dan.
Also, for the people hatin' on the wimmenz for doing nothing, what about DrRawr?
Speaking of which, where the hell is DrRawr?
Omba being all :gut: is a thing that I'll be rereading soon.
Dislike PX for rolefishing past miller and doing nothing else.
Okay will make another post to properly organize these thoughts.
These opinions need to be consolidated ere the day ends.
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As for wagons,
Never ever supporting a BT wagon, but if I have to I'll begrudgingly move to PX if Bard gets no new votes.
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Ok not going to support a Dan wagon.
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Also
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Anyone want to speedwagon me? There's been a lot of lolvigbait stuff thrown around but no one actually had the guts to vote me so far.
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Seriously.
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Anyone want to speedwagon me? There's been a lot of lolvigbait stuff thrown around but no one actually had the guts to vote me so far.
no. I still have no idea why you want BT dead, but you're way more earnest in that endeavor than Shadoweh/Bard can ever hope to be.
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I'd speedwagon Omba, but I doubt enough other people would want to do that.
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FUCK THIS SHIT.
I'm setting my alarm so I wake up in time for deadline. I will give myself an hour so that I have time to reread, but not so much time that I can afford to procrastinate my ass off, which is how I ended up not properly looking at anyone other then PX until it's far too late at night for me to think. (Fakeedit so it makes sense:There was a deleted sentence earlier along the lines of "I reread a bunch of people but it's 2:30am so it was pointless because I'm incoherent")
I will be back at minimum an hour before deadline and will be able to hammer whoever just to secure a lynch if I have to, although hopefully I'll have more to do then "Oh, one person is l-1, and no one else is lynchable.", because then it'd have been a waste of sleep for me to get up early for it; the point of me getting up by then is more so that I don't screw wagons up now with a bad vote instead, because the best I'll do is "HURR SLEEP DEPRIVATION VOICES ARE TELLING ME MAYBE THIS ONE IS WORST."
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do you.. need a hug?
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I thought sleep deprivation was what helped you shoot Conq. :<
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I'm pretty sure Omba is joking about how we speedwagoned him last game.
I don't think I've ever seen Serela angry before. O-o
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I'm pretty sure Omba is joking about how we speedwagoned him last game.
I don't think I've ever seen Serela angry before. O-o
Your game maybe? Affinty/Serela hatefest? I can't remember.
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I don't remember anything Serela posted besides THANK YOU CHAORE I LOVE YOU BOUQUET OF FIRETRUCKS
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Am I really gonna get lynched by Rawr and Serela?
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My brain keeps skimming over BT's posts. This is usually a good sign to me something is wrong. Idle thought: I think Dormio is scum. His wording sounds like he's trying to talk about what people are doing and append 'that is scummy' to it. I don't know how to explain it. It's like he's trying to convince himself.
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... If this does end up Bard vs PX and an influx of people apparently prefer PX and he won't be around for deadline
Let's just say a repeat of the Omba lynch last game wouldn't be pretty so a claim might be in order
Because I really do see people jumping on the wagon an hour to deadline because "welp"
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Am I really gonna get lynched by Rawr and Serela?
Even the mighty sometimes succumb to the weak.
Er claims are good.
You keep skimming BT's posts because they go into detail defending himself from Bard and the ongoing argument is hard to follow unless you've familiarized yourself with the case. And I think I'm am literally the only one who has.
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I need more posts from Dormio to read him.
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But the thing is, my dear BT, that you're the only one asserting that.
When I looked through Bardiche's posts, I found mention of suspicion of ActionDan for also extending the RVS.
You failed to mention this at all and instead went into a back and forth with Bardiche based on how he claimed I was extending the RVS.
Does this change your opinion in any way, or do you believe it to be a moot point?
This was answered by BT pretty convincingly but then you still seem to have problems with BT later on for 'defensive selective reading.' without addressing his response. why again?
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I assume that this is in reference to the selective thing, but whatever you said didn't change my interpretation of aforementioned actions and so I will hold them against you 'til kingdom come.
o ok. Well it should have been good answer to your original query, or did you find his response lacking?
Ok guys I'm sleeping now. It's 4 am. deadline in 6 hours. I'll try to get back here by 9:30 to be present in last half hour. Both parties(Bard, Px) should claim. they should seriously read over each, and either cross-vote or beg for another wagon. Staying on Bard.
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I am suddenly tempted to sheep to Dan and everything he says. His words are like sexy sense-making to me. O_O
##Unvote
I can't even remember why I was voting anymore to be honest.
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Serela this is the exact same move I pulled as scum last game and you still haven't answered me, what the fuck man
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Serela claimed masons? O_O
What did you do last game? I don't think people remember anything from last game other then cop gambit and lol gambits.
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Is there really no other option? I mean, Serela and Rawr are right there ready to die, and I don't want to vote Bard if I have another choice.
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Does it look like anyone has a case and a wagon ready to go on them? Maybe you'll get lucky and they'll die anyways. Throw out the claim while we still have time to think about it and something might rev up.
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Prove there's another option by going for that other option. Asking if there's another option the way you're doing it [instead of, you know, actively working for that other option] is silly.
Serela is scum? Show us why. If Rawr is getting lynched for something it's lurking and there are better lynches around than that. -_-
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Serela claimed masons? O_O
What did you do last game? I don't think people remember anything from last game other then cop gambit and lol gambits.
Too lazy to fake cases at night, went to bed instead.
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I'll decide if Serela fits the bill as scum after he ~does something~ on D2, right now it's too early to tell
Are we going to see that claim or not
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Going to bed, Timer set for 30 minutes before deadline. Before I leave: decided Omba shouldn't be vigged and that Serela deserves bullets much more.
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Woke up, reading. Off-hand: Shadoweh did you seriously just go "lool iunno why i was voting lets sheep someone else"????
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Zzzzz
Nanako Midorikawa, Town 2-shot bulletproof, student at a nearby art school and likes to hang out with friends during lunch break.
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Probably. Are you going to claim now or 30 minutes from deadline?
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I don't want to be in this Town anymore. :derp:
I'm not gonna claim unless it looks like I'll be lynched.
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Fuck it, sleep now, wake up in 5 hours, see that I'm lynched, go back to sleep, sheeping Dan because I like his latest posts, cya at deadline
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Fucking hell, this is reminding me of fucking NotV. Why?!
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Oh right
##Unvote
##Vote Bard
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And that's L-2 for you sleepy people. Now go to sleep.
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Alright, I'm finally home and settled in.
Why is Bard at L-2? Anyway, I'll be rereading and stuff.
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So... the people voting me are Ediblah for self-meta, BT for vote swap after clinging to voting me all day, ActionDan for... something I can't off-hand recall, then Schezo for sheeping to Ediblah and PX is probably not-me-over-me. And Shadoweh declaring she'll sheep to ActionDan.
Well, okay, now I definitely don't want to be part of this Town anymore.
Ediblah has been mostly coasting and briefly mentioning other things while sitting on his vote of me for something said on page 2. I think ED1 cases carried on to the end are sort of ??? without at least some updating, but he hasn't mentioned anything I've said or done outside of "lol self-meta", so I'd take a better look at him tomorrow. Well I'll probably be dead but you know what I mean.
BT's eventual decision that "all the shit I whirled up D1 was actually misunderstandings and not so bad BUT WAIT HE VOTE-SWAPPED TO ME THAT'S TERRIBLE" is all an eloquent way to say that he's OMGUS voting. I maintain that he's rather Scummy for his actions this day and would prefer to see him lynched first, but that's probably not happening.
ActionDan's stuck to his original jokevote, appended reasons to it and has done nothing else since. Coasting.
Schezo sheeping to Ediblah and then doing nothing else today is also coasting. His earlier "cases" required others to pry it out of him which is rather ???. Not sure if he's Scum but he's coasting scum so whatever.
Shadoweh clings to an early vote over some trivial nothing and then decides to sheep as well, meaning her opinions today have been "BT is Scum for reason x" and "i don't know anything anymore let's sheep ^_^" absolving her of responsibility for her opinions.
As far as I care the best Townie in this game is Serela at the moment, and I wouldn't support a lynch on him ever.
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Man, I actually really don't want to be part of this game any more considering people are clinging to RVS-stage reasons to keep on me, with the exception of BT who at least did something to update his case. inb4 misrepresenting omg
I can't even call my own lynch informative. Even PX is not-me-over-me while citing sheeping to ActionDan so uh, what.
☆〜（ゝ。∂）Guys what happened that we're suddenly mass sheeping are we playing lemmings.
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Anyway, back before deadline and if you guys really want me dead then I'll claim. :V
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Welcome to the Afterlife
ActionDan: Dormio (1)
Bardiche: BT, Edible, Schezo, ActionDan, PX (5)
BT: Omba, Bardiche (2)
Dormio: (0)
Dr. Rawr: (0)
Edible: (0)
huhwhat: (0)
NekoNekoRex: (0)
Omba: (0)
PX: Dr. Rawr, NekoNekoRex, huhwhat (3)
Schezo: (0)
Serela: (0)
Shadoweh: (0)
Not Voting: Serela, Shadoweh
In danger of commiting suicide due to boredom: dr rawr.
Bardiche is at L-2
With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch.
You have ~5 (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20120719T2330&p0=236&msg=End+of+Day+One) hours remaining.
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Rawr can technically get godkilled before the day ends. Which will end the day.
Post dammit.
I'm off.
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Oh nevermind he posted a while later. >_>
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And he wouldn't have been godkilled anyway because I mixed up AM and PM.
... I should probably leave before I derp even worse.
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I just fucking lost my post because I refreshed the post page.
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Basically, Omba bad. Why has he been ignored for the most part?
He's said very little about BT despite voting him for the entire day.
Or another way to word it would be he's been poking at other people while keeping his vote parked on BT.
Whatever.
:deadlines: causing main people of interest to be Bard/PX/BT.
Dislike Bard wagon.
PX hasn't said much but I find him to be reasonable in his thought processes.
Which leaves my likely outdated case on BT that I will be reading to refresh and meanwhile have a vote.
##Unvote
##Vote BT
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When that happens I just click the nice little Go Back button and oh there's the post in its entirety. It works here but not with other forums so I don't really know why it works but it does.
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Now gone furreal.
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When that happens I just click the nice little Go Back button and oh there's the post in its entirety. It works here but not with other forums so I don't really know why it works but it does.
That works if you opened another page. Restoring tabs also works for me if I close it. Nothing I can do losing the post through refreshing, though.
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The chainsaw defence of ActionDan still strikes me as something I dislike, even if the rest of his content seems agreeable enough.
Anyway, with my vote here, I'm going to be reading other people.
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Welcome to the Second Coming
ActionDan:
Bardiche: BT, Edible, Schezo, ActionDan, PX (5)
BT: Omba, Bardiche, Dormio (3)
Dormio: (0)
Dr. Rawr: (0)
Edible: (0)
huhwhat: (0)
NekoNekoRex: (0)
Omba: (0)
PX: Dr. Rawr, NekoNekoRex, huhwhat (3)
Schezo: (0)
Serela: (0)
Shadoweh: (0)
Not Voting: Serela, Shadoweh
In danger of commiting suicide due to boredom: dr rawr.
Bardiche is at L-2
With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch.
You have ~3 (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20120719T2330&p0=236&msg=End+of+Day+One) hours remaining.
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rmrggh awakey
@Bard: I believe it's disingenuous to insinuate that my only point on you was the RVS thing. It's certainly the basis of my case, but I'm pretty sure I've also called you out on a half-hearted switch to BT. Your appeal to meta and switch, therefore, is scummier than anything else that has occurred today, and thus I'm voting you.
Shadoweh's "I don't even know why I'm voting BT anymore" is kind of troublesome, and bears further investigation tomorrow. Same with Dormio's, uh... everything. BT himself seems to have mostly defended himself today but I really can't fault him for it.
No one appears to have a good reason to vote PX, so his lynch is not happening today. Rawr is very close to the top of the list of people I'd prefer to see lynched/shot, and Neko is... not really making compelling arguments.
huh what is shiny happy okay. Dan seems to have actually showed up for the latter half of D1, so no problems with him atm. Omba needs to tone down the useless "shut up and sheep me" antics, since he's wasted the day on them; I expect to not see them again this game. Schezo and Serela haven't left enough of an impact on me today, and I'd like to see unique cases from each of them D2.
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Hmmm.
Honestly at this point I would want the people who aren't wagons lynched based on how they are treating these (lol Dormio Shadoweh Neko).
I'm pretty sure Neko crossed a line of defensive townie to chainsaw attack everyone who foses me scum while adding in key chimes like this (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg860343.html#msg860343) which just seems flagrantly over the top.
Dormio has done all of nothing today but talk to himself.
Shadoweh just going sup gaiz unvote is bad.
I'll see if I can iso these two today but I'll still support Bard as the best of these three current wagons.
ohgoddammitedible
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Bard if you're still here I would like to know which cases I made which required people to drag out of me. I"m pretty sure I only fosed Neko before you and then I took the case on you. Seems like a stretch to say that.
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</3 Do not want. Bard, you gotta claim. It's 2 hours before deadline and people want you dead. You know I can't hate you once I've slept and you make posts like that.
Dormio: I don't like Omba picking on BT. ##Vote: BT. ???
To be fair I agree with him about the wagonsish. I don't like Bardwagon and PX sounds like PX. Despite everyone's pitchforks guess what I've been rereading and I still don't like BT. His reason for continuing to stay on Bard is because Bard voted him. His scumreads are still people voting for him. (And PX. Because why not everyone hates PX right.)
##VOTE: BT suck it and switch to mine kids.
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Bard if you're still here I would like to know which cases I made which required people to drag out of me. I"m pretty sure I only fosed Neko before you and then I took the case on you. Seems like a stretch to say that.
This is a bad semantics argument Schezo. "No one has had to drag a case out of me! I've never MADE a case! HAH!"
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Wait why do I always fall for stupid claims. PX is that really all you have to give in terms of flavor? Why are you bulletproof?
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Well I'm back.
Annnnnd Bard is at L-2.
Well then. This is not good.
PX's claim sounds... kind of bad. Assuming this is role madness not really sure if that's worth lynching for anyway.
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Oh my God PX claimed and I didn't even see that.
I just wanted to know where that statement came from if all I made was one case. I can see exaggerating that point for scum motivated reasons.
PX's claim is just ehhh. What do you mean fall for stupid claims Shadoweh?
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I'm pretty sure Neko crossed a line of defensive townie to chainsaw attack everyone who foses me scum while adding in key chimes like this which just seems flagrantly over the top.
What the fuck is this? You are totally making up things. The only intent of that post was to get Shadoweh to either do something before he goes to bed or set an early alarm. How can you possibly find ANYTHING otherwise game related in that?
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I may or may not be totally incoherent and need more sleep then I've just gotten
I need to go wake up a little more.
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..He's not going to be back is he. Idly I wonder who got Kaoru Yamazaki, I hope it's BT.
Schezo, I mean my trusting someone's claim to be true far too often without reason. Especially PX.
I changed my mind. Mo' flavor no problems.
##Unvote
##Vote: PX
Neko: SHADOWEH IS A GOOD GIRL. I'm proud that I woke up before my alarm went off actually.
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SHE
I MEANS SHE
I KNOW YOURE A GIRL STOP REMINDING ME
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I want to be a Kidult when I grow up
ActionDan:
Bardiche: BT, Edible, Schezo, ActionDan, PX (5)
BT: Omba, Bardiche, Dormio (3)
Dormio: (0)
Dr. Rawr: (0)
Edible: (0)
huhwhat: (0)
NekoNekoRex: (0)
Omba: (0)
PX: Dr. Rawr, NekoNekoRex, huhwhat, Shadoweh (4)
Schezo: (0)
Serela: (0)
Shadoweh: (0)
Not Voting: Serela
In danger of commiting suicide due to boredom: dr rawr.
Bardiche is at L-2
PX is at L-3
With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch.
You have ~2 (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20120719T2330&p0=236&msg=End+of+Day+One) hours remaining.
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Shadoweh:
Her case on BT goes from being solid "Vote BT with me" (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg859472.html#msg859472) to "He has a legit defense but I'm still gutvoting him so back up" (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg859507.html#msg859507) to "I'm still fosing BT he's bad for fosing his wagoner" (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg860150.html#msg860150) all the way to "I know I was heavily fosing Dan but he's my oracle now and I'm just droppin' the BT case peace ya'll" (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg860520.html#msg860520)
Working under the assumption of a PX townflip, I'm glad you rolled scum this game Shadoweh because you aren't town pulling this stuff.
Neko I'm reading into the emotion of that post. Heavy sarcasm towards others is not a towntell if you get what I'm saying.
I"ll iso Neko and Dormio today if I can but I'll probably wait until day 2.
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Heavy sarcasm towards others is not a towntell if you get what I'm saying.
This is complete bullshit and you know it. You're calling me scummy because I made a sarcastic post?
Better quicklynch huhwhat then with that kind of logic
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It's. not?
When all of your posts are just omgus you fos me and sarcasm as opposed to HW having actual reads, you'll find I'm not bullshitting myself thanks.
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No one ever seems to know what I sound like as town. You've quoted a series of rather confused posts that would have never happened if I were only interested in making up reasons to lynch someone. I would have more motivation to do things if I had a buddy to feed off of. Are you the one who got Yamazaki Schezo? :V
BARD YOU COCK STOP HOLDING BACK AND CLAIM.
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It's. not?
When all of your posts are just omgus you fos me and sarcasm as opposed to HW having actual reads, you'll find I'm not bullshitting myself thanks.
nononononono
You're calling me scum for a "be back before deadline" post in response to Shadoweh saying "Whoops looks I forgot to read better go to bed before someone calls me out on it!"
Because using fake-emotes like :wow: and :cool: and being sarcastic are totally the core principles of being scum
And now you're defending Huhwhat because I mentioned his name in a post? I said "we should totally quicklynch him (THIS IS SARCASM LEARN TO READ BETWEEN THE LINES)" because Huhwhat makes a bunch of sarcastic posts all the time and therefore he's scum by your logic
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So, like, was NNR this aggressive in defending himself in other games?
It's past midnight and I'm sick so I'm going to sleep screw y'all.
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I forgot there was flavor for my bulletproof, however silly it is. My optimism prevents me from being killed. Seriously.
Also, bastard =/= role madness
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Also, agree on NNR being way too aggressive.
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Whoa I can totally see why this sarcasm stuff is a scumtell, can't you?
Better quicklynch huhwhat then with that kind of logic
You're seriously going to tell me this was sarcasm without any other CLUES that hint at it being such? There's a difference between you and huh what in that he actually gives independent cases and you're just sarcastically chiming in on everyone to look your way.
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Whoa I can totally see why this sarcasm stuff is a scumtell, can't you?
No.
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You're seriously going to tell me this was sarcasm without any other CLUES that hint at it being such? There's a difference between you and huh what in that he actually gives independent cases and you're just sarcastically chiming in on everyone to look your way.
[/quote]Why the hell do you keep inserting random tidbits about why huhwhat is town? This is an argument about sarcasm.
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I'm here now, /reading.
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I keep inserting them because you want me to treat him the same way I'm treating you when you two are notably different.
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NNR vs Schezo
:getdown:
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I keep inserting them because you want me to treat him the same way I'm treating you when you two are notably different.
You keep inserting them because debating the townieness oh Huhwhat is completely off topic here and has nothing to do with how sarcastic posts are scummy and how huhwhat is sarcastic all the time and you're avoiding the issue.
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Pffthahahaha that is the best power I've ever heard of. You're alright PX, you're alright.
It kind of seems like it's both? I can't even speculate on what the bastard part is. I'm kind of in love with this game though.
##Unvote
Vote: Bardiche
Bard I seriously don't want to do this. Please come back and claim lover mason vigilantes or something. This lynch works best for my suspicion purposes but I hate being a party to bad flips.
Schezo why can't we ever be friends when you're town? :< Neko you're the one who said huh what was scum by the same logic. Schezo is correcting you in that huh what is being helpful and you're being caustic in defense of yourself. Cut: OH MY GOD SHUTUP You are like children going NO YOU NO YOU
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Hey guys, try this on for size
Bard is my Neighbor and we're both town
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I GET BACK AND AUGH WHAT.
Neko. Please clarify if you're being srsbzns or not with that claim.
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Spergin
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Hey, check this out for size, I could have claimed for my neighbor buddy earlier when I decided to 1v1 Schezo but I'm going to wait until 25 minutes to deadline, suck it.
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... NNR, question - are you aware that neighbor alignment is not, in fact, guaranteed? Or are you saying you're actually Masons?
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Woke up on my own without alarm. Hi what should I do instead of going back to sleep because I'm really tired?
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1 hour to deadline
Who is willing to get rid of NNR?
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I GET BACK AND AUGH WHAT.
Neko. Please clarify if you're being srsbzns or not with that claim.
NekoNekoRex does not joke about claims
Also we have an hour to deadline, Bard said he didn't want to claim until it was obvious he was getting lynched.
Lynching Bard is a guaranteed town kill, do not lynch Bard.
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Hi five huh what, fuck alarms
NNR just claimed neighbors for no fuck sakes idea
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...Neighbours are never alignment confirmed
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"All we can do is to claw, to claw at each other"
ActionDan:
Bardiche: BT, Edible, Schezo, ActionDan, PX, Shadoweh (6)
BT: Omba, Bardiche, Dormio (3)
Dormio: (0)
Dr. Rawr: (0)
Edible: (0)
huhwhat: (0)
NekoNekoRex: (0)
Omba: (0)
PX: Dr. Rawr, NekoNekoRex, huhwhat (4)
Schezo: (0)
Serela: (0)
Shadoweh: (0)
Not Voting: Serela
In danger of commiting suicide due to boredom: dr rawr.
In danger of having their blood vessels explode due to high blood pressure: Neko and Schezo
Bardiche is at L-1
With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch.
You have 54 (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20120719T2330&p0=236&msg=End+of+Day+One) minutes remaining.
@Neko, Schezo: Say only what you need to say please, lest you guys be given a warning.
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im awake reading
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>_> You're a confirmed town.. miller? Is Bard a miller too?
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I would like to hammer Bard, since neighbors =/= confirmed and last time town fucked up by leaving the neighbor claim alive all game without testing. More than anything though I'd like to go back to bed. Am I needed here or not?
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I'll be British Governor town for the rest of the game then.
Is he also a miller too or what? -Hi Shadoweh
Depends, if Omba is still here or not.
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Oh my god Shadoweh is right Neko is a miller too :getdown:
HW:Not unless we decide to LULZ and swing the wagon onto NNR instead
Schezo:ajskdlfja;fas okay now that one it's harder to tell if you're being serious or not, I mean with Neko I was fairly sure he wasn't, but
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as in I was fairly sure Neko wasn't -kidding-*
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We're not quickwagoning anybody, fuck that.
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Schezo:ajskdlfja;fas okay now that one it's harder to tell if you're being serious or not, I mean with Neko I was fairly sure he wasn't, but
I have no idea what this means.
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I don't think we can just test their claim by lynching one. I don't see why Bard would be in a panic about being lynched and hold back if he was CONFIRMED TOWN.
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I don't see why Bard would be in a panic about being lynched and hold back if he was CONFIRMED TOWN.
Where did he do this?
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I would like to hammer Bard, since neighbors =/= confirmed and last time town fucked up by leaving the neighbor claim alive all game without testing. More than anything though I'd like to go back to bed. Am I needed here or not?
I will absolutely not allow Bard to be lynched today. It's going to result in a town flip you'll regret for the rest of the game.
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I just finished reading. Testing the neighbor claim is nice and all, but not so much since it involves lynching Bard. If any of the two, I'd rather take Neko instead of Bard, but really, I like neither of the two dead today.
I also have doubts about lynching someone to confirm a neighbor claim, mostly because confirming neighbors confirms nothing else unless I'm missing something here. If you want to lynch Bard, you'll have to say you actually want to lynch him not just because of lollastgamemasons.
I'm here to switch if deadline etc. though.
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I will absolutely not allow Bard to be lynched today. It's going to result in a town flip you'll regret for the rest of the game.
You don't have a choice in the matter, though.
Is Bard's alignment confirmed in your role, yes or no? Neighbor is not a confirmation of alignment, merely a method of extragame communication.
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Schezo:The governor joke(?)claim.
Seriously it's like someone is making a "just kidding" claim once every 24 hours, this got tiring in the previous game before this one even started
also I just woke up so I'm not quite thinking straight and am still trying to eat breakfast and things like that.
Neko:Do you have mod confirmation or something adequately similar that Bard is town?
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"@Neko, Schezo: Say only what you need to say please, lest you guys be given a warning. "
I'm British Governor Scum Town Mr. Serela.
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Schezo:The governor joke(?)claim.
Seriously it's like someone is making a "just kidding" claim once every 24 hours, this got tiring in the previous game before this one even started
also I just woke up so I'm not quite thinking straight and am still trying to eat breakfast and things like that.
Neko:Do you have mod confirmation or something adequately similar that Bard is town?I have mod confirmation that lynching bard will create a townflip.
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Whoops quote tag shenanigans
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k I've said my piece, we have the manpower to hammer Bard without me, this is uninteresting and it's unlikely there will be any more claims for me to think about. I'm going back to bed. PX's is claim is null at best, by the way, and it's possible he got a fake role PM from the mod wrt flavor. Also bulletproof is a scum claim. I've waffled and decided hammering Bard over PX isn't that good of an idea. Neko if you're gambitting then you're being an idiot, stop. PS: Don't fucking quickwagon anybody.
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huh what: http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg860570.html#msg860570
There is no reason to hold back at this point if he knew what he was going to claim was going to cause controversy like this. He knows what he did last game would cause an argument about what to do.
Uh.. Neko.. this may sound like a weird question, but do you have mod confirmation the town flip would be Bard?
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Oh, I get it.
Neko, you're Lovers with Bard, aren't you? You're going to die if we lynch him.
Hahahahahaha.
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I'm not gambiting. If you want to lynch Bard you'll have to go through me first.
:colbert:
I am going to continue to put up extreme resistance to a Bard lynch.
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>that lynching bard will create a townflip
Why does this have to be worded in the weirdest way possible.
It's like it's saying Bard can shift the lynch onto someone else or is a scum bomb just as possibly as being town.
Ediblecut:Rofl oh dear.
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Neko may have a posting restriction altering his ability to claim.
And now I'm off for real.
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So guys, who would still be up for lynching PX? He'd be at L-2 with my vote.
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##Unvote
##Vote PX
No, I'm still not liking the idea of a Bard lynch today. And since we're not doing the quickwagon thing, Neko is out, too, so.
That's L-2 I think. Although wait, I think there's an error in the votecount somewhere. (goes to recheck)
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I wouldn't, hammer Bardiche.
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Descent into Madness
ActionDan: (0)
Bardiche: BT, Edible, Schezo, ActionDan, PX, Shadoweh (6) L-1
BT: Bardiche, Dormio (2)
Dormio: (0)
Dr. Rawr: (0)
Edible: (0)
huhwhat: (0)
NekoNekoRex: (0)
Omba: (0)
PX: Dr. Rawr, NekoNekoRex, huhwhat, Omba (4)
Schezo: (0)
Serela: (0)
Shadoweh: (0)
Not Voting: Serela
With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch.
You have 29 (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20120719T2330&p0=236&msg=End+of+Day+One) minutes remaining.
There was an error in the previous votecount, the number of votes on PX was 3 but the number next to it was 4.
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Spergin
I apologize if this offended anyone even though it was more a comment to the fact that the thread blow up.
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Oh well in that case.
##Vote PX L-2 :T
Will hammer Bard to secure any lynch if I have to. Which I guess I most likely will have to.
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Well, Neko, at least you get to be confirmed Town after this.
I'm Hitomi Kashiwa, Town Confirmed-Sane Cop, neighbour with NekoNekoRex, and I didn't want to claim because it's giving away one of Town's power roles. But hey, there you have it. So anyway, yeah.
##Unvote
I maintain my concerns about the wagon on me, and Schezo, you didn't volunteer much information or reads on anyone so yes, it's coasting and Scummy that people have to at all ask you about your case on someone before you provide it even if you've already voted them.
Since NNR claimed Miller I'm convinced he's Town.
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I wouldn't, hammer Bardiche.
(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z177/King_Yoshi42/tumblr_l9s0oylfm21qz4w1go1_400.png)
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##Unvote
##Vote: PX
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I would advise against a PX lynch. No one has a case on him. :3c
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:I
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Edible has a point and, you're going to have to just lay it out for me Bard, where was I doing that and at who?
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Also perfectly content to self-hammer to get to a lynch, because I think it'll be valuable for everyone to observe the wagon on me with a confirmed Town flip, considering how Shadoweh, PX and Schezo are just sheeping to someone and it's kind of ridiculous people've let it go that far. Since when is "lol sheep" valid enough to coast the entire day by?
BT remains super scummy for chainsaw defending ActionDan during frigging RVS instead of letting him speak for himself, so if one flips Scum I'd lynch the other for being Scummy as well.
Shadoweh is very scummy for continuously trying to get a claim when there was no certainty I'd be lynched (and indeed, I did not expect to be because of sheep baaaah, but my expectations were set too high) and additionally for clinging to BT the entire Day, then acknowledge it's a shit case before she just sheeps others instead of providing Original Content.
Serela and NNR are the people I'd support to LYLO.
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Also Edible going "don't stop the lynch" after a Cop claim is obviously Scum being rather happy they got to lynch someone by a singular point and sit on that all day while doing nothing else. :V Quick lynch him.
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The Long Cold Night
ActionDan: (0)
Bardiche: BT, Edible, Schezo, ActionDan, PX,(5) L-2
BT: Dormio (1)
Dormio: (0)
Dr. Rawr: (0)
Edible: (0)
huhwhat: (0)
NekoNekoRex: (0)
Omba: (0)
PX: Dr. Rawr, NekoNekoRex, huhwhat, Omba, Serela, Shadoweh (6) L-1
Schezo: (0)
Serela: (0)
Shadoweh: (0)
Not voting: Bardiche
With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch.
You have 20 (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20120719T2330&p0=236&msg=End+of+Day+One) minutes remaining.
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Also Edible going "don't stop the lynch" after a Cop claim is obviously Scum being rather happy they got to lynch someone by a singular point and sit on that all day while doing nothing else. :V Quick lynch him.
I concur with this idea. Him and Shezo both.
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Then just hammer not you over you already if you're going to be all that.
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Is the town cop seriously saying he'll hammer himself over PX? :T :T :T
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I'm sorry Kaori. Koromo will await you outside the mortal plane.
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Bard, I am pretty sure everyone is a power role at this point so it doesn't matter too much. This game is a game is a gaaaaame.
Cases suck. Bard you have no sense of wagon timing. You should have claimed before ONE HOUR BEFORE LYNCH. It makes you look like giving up scum that doesn't think it can save itself.
No one is quicklynching Schezo or Edible. If you hate them so much cop them.
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Also Edible going "don't stop the lynch" after a Cop claim is obviously Scum being rather happy they got to lynch someone by a singular point and sit on that all day while doing nothing else. :V Quick lynch him.
Given you can hammer PX right now, why haven't you?
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Fucking NotV haunting me. I should stop joining Affinity games
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I only feel tired when I'm at the computer and not in bed.
Anything for me to address?
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Comparing this game to NotV is scummy AtE
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Bard is a Mason-Cop, thoughts?
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Shadoweh, if you're telling Scum you're a Town Cop, of course they'll hit that shit because it's the most informed kill they can make.
Go lynch them tomorrow after my flip obviously.
Given you can hammer PX right now, why haven't you?
:derp:
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They're more likely to roleblock you until they can confirm your kill really. If they kill you at all since you're probably still lynchable.
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Tick tock, people.
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I read the claim and am fine with it.
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Please find the scum in my horrible ass wagon
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They're more likely to roleblock you until they can confirm your kill really. If they kill you at all since you're probably still lynchable.
Lynchable by... 3 people and their 3 sheep? :V I'd be more concerned they thought me lynchable if it was actually 6 people but it's 3 people and 3 sheep. Comparatively Dan, BT and Edible have amazing spots on my wagon.
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Probably Rawr. I will be sad if he's still alive tomorrow. If you have a gun please donate to the cause.
Bard stop goofing around and hammer PX before he kills himself.
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You could try to find them for us last minute. That was what you did the last times you got wagoned as town.
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Tick tock, people.
We have 12 minutes, chill bro.
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Huh what, NNR, and some other random. Probably on Bard wagon
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If Bard seriously hammers himself I will have words for him postgame for lynching someone he KNOWS is town (And will definitely get nk'd if scum doesn't have a roleblocker) over someone he doesn't.
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Bard don't lynch yourself! It's a bad idea!
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Which would default to BT :/
Okay not really sure about that one
Also, MoTK town, since when did they listen to dead confirmed town?
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Huh what, NNR
Yeah no, we make no sense as buddies sorry.
Fine with hammer. On PX, that is. Bard, do you really want Serela of all people to have words for you postgame?
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BARD IS AT L-2 YOU DERPS HE CAN'T KILL HIMSELF EVEN IF HE WANTS TO
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BARD IS AT L-2 YOU DERPS HE CAN'T KILL HIMSELF EVEN IF HE WANTS TO
YEAH SUCK ON THAT BARD
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They listened to UK when she came back from the dead similarly with huhwhat oh ho ho.
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COME ON SCUM. WHICH ONE OF YOU HAS THE BALLS TO HAMMER ME?!
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If Bard seriously hammers himself I will have words for him postgame for lynching someone he KNOWS is town (And will definitely get nk'd if scum doesn't have a roleblocker) over someone he doesn't.
If to secure a lynch at all, Serela. No Lynch is terrible at this stage, and my lynch would still make the wagon something people'd look at better. It's still composed of 3 people and 3 sheep, and I'm baffled no one has given the sheep any attention for it. Especially considering Shadoweh and Schezo at least should be competent enough to actually read the game and form opinions, them taking the easy way and just sheeping to Dan and Edible respectively is kind of ???.
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But Schezo, they weren't dead at that point :V
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Bard don't lynch yourself! It's a bad idea!
BUT I COULD ESCAPE THIS BASTARD MOD MAFIAAAAAA!!!
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Though actually, I forgot PX suspected me earlier over shaky meta. Random scum guesses don't look that strained then I guess. Still fine with his hammer though.
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schezo are you scum
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Delaying the Inevitable
ActionDan: (0)
Bardiche: BT, Edible, Schezo, ActionDan, PX (5)
BT: Dormio (1)
Dormio: (0)
Dr. Rawr: (0)
Edible: (0)
huhwhat: (0)
NekoNekoRex: (0)
Omba: (0)
PX: Dr. Rawr, NekoNekoRex, huhwhat, Omba, Serela, Shadoweh (6)
Schezo: (0)
Serela: (0)
Shadoweh: (0)
Not Voting: Bardiche
With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch.
You have 7 (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20120719T2330&p0=236&msg=End+of+Day+One) minutes remaining.
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BARD IS AT L-2 YOU DERPS HE CAN'T KILL HIMSELF EVEN IF HE WANTS TO
YEAH SUCK ON THAT BARD
OH GOD I'M DYING AHAHAHA
Bard:There's a difference between "to secure a lynch at all" and "PX is sitting there at l-1 without your vote on him and you hammered yourself instead"
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No, I am not hammering the one person confirmed to flip town to me.
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You know what's ??? that timer.
No, huhwhat
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OH GOD I'M DYING AHAHAHA
Bard:There's a difference between "to secure a lynch at all" and "PX is sitting there at l-1 without your vote on him and you hammered yourself instead"
PX wasn't at L-1 when I wrote that. Maybe when I posted it but not when I wrote that.
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Baaaaaaaaard you have five votes right now why can't you count. And seven minutes.
God where the fuck is Dormio.
PX: Fuck yeah you gotta fight for your rights.
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k schezo tomorrow i expected something more memorable than sheeping and getting into irrelevant fights
can we hammer px please? he even posted a ~blatant meta scumtell~ just now
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*i expect
whatever
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Dormio went to sleep an hour sgo
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Expect you mean? yeah
He's going to force a nl
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Can I go to sleep already?
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bard where the fuck is the hammer you have like 5 minutes by my count
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You mean he refused to hammer himself? :V
Edible + Schezo + Bard one of you end this travesty please.
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I don't want to live in a world without the Koromo!
(http://i50.tinypic.com/206fslz.png)
Seriously the PX wagon is awful, and every single one of you should probably feel bad about lynching him this game as he's done little to deserve it even on D1
schezo are you scum
Highly suspect Dormio/Shadoweh, but give Schezo a beating tomorrow if he doesn't contribute.
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Expect you mean? yeah
He's going to force a nl
He just said NL was the worst thing that could happen at this point in the game
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He's going to force a nl
Schezo has the power to cause a lynch, as does Edible, and they're refusing to do it.
This is what I was waiting for and this is what I have gotten. The two of you can cause a lynch but are pushing it onto me as if you can't lynch PX. :3
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PX is town no
WHERE IS THE HAMMER???
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Edible is a bro among kings
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WHERE IS THE HAMMER???
YOU HAVE IT!!!
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Oh my god someone just fucking vote PX already I don't care who aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
SCHEZO YOU'RE SIMULTANEOUSLY SAYING "NAH DON'T FEEL LIKE HAMMERING PX, BARD WHY HAVEN'T YOU HAMMERED HIM YET GRRRR"
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Ok unvote lynch Bard, today folks, Gracious.
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Schezo is town. I'd be the easiest hammer for scum an nobody would give a shit.
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gdi where is my scumbuddy bard who quickhammers people with no regrets????
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fuck you autosmilies btw
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PX is town and we won't vote Bard who's forcing nl because circlejerkcirclejerkcirclejerkcirclejerkcirclejerkcirclejerkcirclejerkcirclejerkcirclejerk
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2 minute warning
http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20120719T2330&p0=236&msg=End+of+Day+One
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He really doesn't deserve it but no one wanted to wagon BT with me so tUMUt
PS Bard if you cop me and get roleblocked but fake a guilty I swear to god
Uhm.. 2 minutes?
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How did this reach Zombie mafia levels of posts???
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ONE MINUTE GODDAMN PEOPLE
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Schezo is town. I'd be the easiest hammer for scum an nobody would give a shit.
It's pretty Scummy to complain someone'll "force NL" while simultaneously contributing to "force NL" by not voting. I think Edible and Schezo are rather scummy for refusing the hammer and trying to shove it off as something that has to come from one party.
Probably afraid you're a bomb. Actually, that bomb would be an exit as well...
##VOTE: PX
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About time. Later, suckers.
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:(
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Thank You :)
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:(
I LOVE YOU KOROMO
GOODBYE ;_;
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8 ) No talk in the topic during twilight and night phases.
Shh!
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End of D1 Votecount
ActionDan: (0)
Bardiche: BT, Edible, Schezo, ActionDan, PX (5)
BT: Dormio (1)
Dormio: (0)
Dr. Rawr: (0)
Edible: (0)
huhwhat: (0)
NekoNekoRex: (0)
Omba: (0)
PX: Dr. Rawr, NekoNekoRex, huhwhat, Omba, Serela, Shadoweh, Bardiche (7) HAMMER
Schezo: (0)
Serela: (0)
Shadoweh: (0)
With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch.
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Eventually the tension got too great to bear. PX (Nanako Midorikawa, 1-shot bulletproof townie neighbor), as innocent and optimistic as ever, was unaccustomed to these stressful situations and couldn?t stay above the noises swirling inside her head. In vague delirium, she slit her wrists, falling over with a dull thud.
Her abilities were as follows,
- Upbeat: Your optimism protects you from any kill attempts once, as in a 1-shot bulletproof.
- Neighbors: You are neighbours with X (Kaori Yamazaki), and can converse with him during the night here. You know nothing of his alignment or his role.
Not long after, Edible (Kaoru Yamazaki, Lovestruck Townie Neighbour), was found dead outside her house window, lying on the lawn with a knife in his chest.
His abilities were as follows,
- Infatuation: You are also a one-sided lover to Nanako (X). If she dies, you have no qualms about following her into death immediately, though the converse may not be true. You may not reveal this to anyone at any point in the game, directly or indirectly until LyLO (or its psuedo, MyLO, varaints), due to your introverted self. Such is your plight.
- Neighbours: You are neighbors with Nanako (X), and can converse with her here, during the night. You know nothing of her alignment or role, sadly, but you hope for the best.
It is now Night Two. You have 24 hours to send in your actions (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20120721T00&p0=236&msg=End+of+Night+One)
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Kaoru?s visual novel, published posthumously by his friend(s) out of respect for him, tanked horribly in Comiket, selling only two copies. It served as a horrible reminder to everyone that death alone does not justify a person's painful decisions in life, and that the world was a horrible place. Either that or it was the work of the NHK but whatever.
No one died last night, though.
It is now Day 2. With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.
You have 48 hours remaining. (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20120723T0006&p0=236&msg=End+of+Day+Two)
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Oh cool no one died!
I'm too busy reading the Helepolis manga since they just linked it in irc but, if anyone thinks we should lynch Bard or Neko today, you can keep that to yourself or go jump in a fire or something :3
tl;dr no >:C
after I'm less busy (I never even ate breakfast yet ;_;) I'll go over d1 again and vote and all that jazz
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NOBODY OUT ANYMORE NEIGHBOUR PAIRS.
God it's like I'm playing two lover mafias.
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So before I sleep I'll just say this: Keep your traps shut about the lovers stuff. I know you can resist the temptation of speculation. Just once. Please.
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So guys, I investigated Shadoweh.
##VOTE: Shadoweh
I'm kidding. I didn't investigate Shadoweh
##Unvote
I'd like to hear Schezo on why he refused to hammer PX near end-of-day. Edible has a fairly good reason to want No Lynch over PX Lynch, but there's no excuse as yet why you would panicmonger about me "forcing NL" while simultaneously taking no action to rectify the situation. Along with just sheeping yesterday and, thus, doing little to no scumhunting, I think there's a good candidate for the noose today.
##Vote: Schezo
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Bard I died
In more serious news, lemme guess, roleblocked? (Since no one died I could see you realistically haven been the nk target, but docced, and got a result; but that doesn't seem to be the case or I imagine you'd have said so)
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Edible, I hate you. Did you think that maybe, just maybe, I was asking about Kaoru Yamazaki, IE THE PERSON MOST LIKELY TO HAVE A ONE-SIDED CRUSH ON Nanako Midorikawa, for a reason? Since apparently I am too subtle, I'll go ahead and confirm what some of you already know but can't talk about now that I can, that there are a number of people in the game that are one-way lovers to other people. I think it is enough of a thing that there are more then two. (A cop with a miller lover neighbour is pretty hilarious actually.) Neko can't say but he's obviously suffering from the same condition.
If all the loverishes are neighbours, outting pairs becomes a map to how2nk4scum.
Cut by strangling Bard with the electric chord in the men's changeroom
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I came in like 20 min after deadline. I'm Sorta glad that I did because that was a sucky D1 choice between the claims.
Bard *should* have a cop result unless Lol roleblocked.
uh. people to look at: everyone, I guess besides Bard, Neko, BT.
Schezo, Dormio come to mind first. And maybe huhwhat Shadoweh I should check again, and then Rawr.
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also V/LA until Monday night. Maybe I can post tiny bits inbetween
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Going to side with Bard here, Shezo's D1 was awful and the last bits during deadline were incredibly bad.
##Vote: Shezo
Huhwhat and Dan read pretty sturdy town to me from my reread from D1, I wouldn't advise a lynch on either one of them for the time being.
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Also bad: Shadoweh sheeping during End of Day, and now pretending helpfulness by claiming something any and all neighbour pairs would have probably figured out by themselves. Trying to look helpful while saying something pretty unnecessary doesn't make me believe in your Towniness, Shadoweh.
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Four pages in one hour. You people deserve a medal.
Because I really do see people jumping on the [PX] wagon an hour to deadline because "welp"
Listen to me for I am psychic.
By the way, we're not lynching the town cop anymore. --oh okay seems like everyone agrees, good
##Vote Shadoweh
Vote on me was constantly justified by gut feeling. Despite this, additional reasons to vote me magically show up along the way (such as 'deflecting', 'why me' and 'meta'), looks more like trying to justify vote as much as possible when on surface it's no better than Omba's. Was willing to buy into unvote because it suits misguided town realizing their mistake, but later clarification that I am still bad eliminates that thought and puts her reconsidering into doubt. Now unvote is more like appeal to people criticizing her vote. Revote feels too justified (for a "best of three wagons", no less). Also felt like she had an easy time jumping from one wagon to the other multiple times, though that's more of a gut feeling.
Dislike Serela #102 for free potential wagon start on derptown NNR. Because really, that comment serves no other purpose. In general Serela is very nonexistent this game, showing up to comment / ask questions but not actually contributing anything. Well, aside from conviction behind PX vote that disappeared after one PX post and reappeared after HW called him out for it. >_>
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Quick thing. Is Rawr female? I might've NNR'd Rawr [and Affinity] all this time. :(
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Shadoweh, a lot of people can't talk about it and you're implying that you knew about it yesterday and can talk about it. What gives?
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I'm not pretending helpfulness you dope, I'm giving you role information that I wasn't able to give out yesterday. I knew all along about this. I wasn't allowed to say anything until someone died from their natural crushes.
Bard, did you tell Neko you were a cop before he claimed to be a miller in your quicktopic?
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##vote:serela
pretty sure im a guy BT
that thing serela was doing at the end of d1 pretty much going for every (possible) wagon
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##Vote: Serela
Sheeping Rawr
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Doesn't want to hammer his town read.
Is incredibly bad.
This fucking game.
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Well I'm pretty sure someone said you're female in this game, and in the last game too. Screw them.
I'm still kind of considering town Serela having a really really bad day [1] so he's in the "i want to read them already" list with Schezo and Rawr.
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Schezo, to be fair. Would you have preferred not lynching anyone to not lynching someone? You seem to agree that no-lynching is a bad thing.
PS if Bard was roleblocked I suggest we quicklynch Serela immediately for knowing too much.
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Well I'm pretty sure someone said you're female in this game, and in the last game too. Screw them.
pretty sure that was huhwhat(jerk)
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Other people who I won't support a lynch on: Bardiche, Shadoweh, Neko, Dan
The most tentative here is Shadoweh, who I might change my mind about later. But right now I think we really shouldn't lynch her.
Reread of D1:Schezo is horrible, Omba is useless, Rawr and Dormio are superlurk.
That leaves HW The Eternally Unreadable and BT who I'm null on, also known in this case as "We have bigger fish to fry", e.g. any of the four I just mentioned
I'll make cases when I'm less tired. But seriously, like Rawr and Dormio may as well NOT EXIST, which is horrible, and then Omba/Schezo aren't terribly better. Omba has actual posts and stuff but the vast majority consist of "Sheep my gut, vote BT". And I'll get to Schezo's etc later.
Schezo:"Doesn't want to hammer your town read" is sort of a bad thing, yes, when the alternative is NO LYNCH. It's not exactly a super scummy thing though. You're definitely pretty scummy for things -other- then that though. Your d1 is pretty sucky and I'll explain why after I nap.
Shadoweh:Oh yes because the claimed town cop being roleblocked is TOTALLY SHOCKING. :P The other half of my reasoning there is that he has no reason to not instantly claim his night result, and the fact that he didn't makes it look like he didn't get one. Still would like clarification on the matter from him though.
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PS if Bard was roleblocked I suggest we quicklynch Serela immediately for knowing too much.
Currently not interested in lynching Serela for this alone.
And I am seriously interested in how Schezo is terrible aside from the NL thing. (which isn't grounds for that either -___-)
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Basically I guess I want to actually see cases?
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Oh you're all right. Let me hammer my town read power role when Bard is playing the "You chumps hammer" game.
You're all reaching so hard.
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PX is town and we won't vote Bard who's forcing nl because circlejerkcirclejerkcirclejerkcirclejerkcirclejerkcirclejerkcirclejerkcirclejerkcirclejerk
we won't vote Bard who's forcing nl
Bard who's forcing nl
You can't use "forcing nl" as some sort of negative thing while also trying to force no lynch yourself by not voteswapping to PX. Would you have preferred No Lynch over a PX lynch?
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You're all reaching so hard.
This would be a legitimate complaint if it was the only reason people don't like you.
I'm going to shut up about it though because I haven't actually explained what my other reasons are so I don't have much of a right to talk about this yet.
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Welcome to Life!
ActionDan: (0)
Bardiche: (0)
BT: (0)
Dormio: (0)
Dr. Rawr: (0)
huhwhat: (0)
NekoNekoRex: (0)
Omba: (0)
PX: (0)
Schezo: Bardiche, NekoNekoRex (2)
Serela: Dr. Rawr, huhwhat (2)
Shadoweh: BT (1)
Not Voting: Everyone Else
With 11 alive, it's 6 to lynch.
You have 47 hours remaining (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20120723T0006&p0=236&msg=End+of+Day+Two)
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Don't get me wrong Schezo, I like you! (Not in the killing myself if you die kind of way though.) I am asking for an honest justification of why you were so dead-set on not lynching PX to the point of risking a no-lynch if Bard didn't stop playing chicken first.
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Serela stop talking until you make some cases on why they're town and why I'm scum.
Yes I would prefer a nl to lynch a PR. I wanted you lynched Bard, because I think you're scum.
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In fact I don't think anyone grasps how powerful a town BP is.
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Yes I would prefer a nl to lynch a PR.
Read from here (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg860786.html#msg860786) to here (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg860790.html#msg860790). I refused to hammer PX at the time, whereupon your response was to lynch me. Then here (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg860794.html#msg860794), you complain that I'm "forcing No Lynch", after just now stating you prefer No Lynch to a PX Lynch. (Let's forget for the moment that both PX and I are/were PRs)
How do these two things not contradict each other? If you preferred a No Lynch to lynching PX, why did you make such a point out of my refusal to hammer PX to the point that you kept repeating I was "trying to force No Lynch"?
I wanted you lynched Bard, because I think you're scum.
Case where.
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Because I wanted to get you lynched. How does that grab everyone?
I agreed with Edibleh's case. Case there.
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Because I wanted to get you lynched. How does that grab everyone?
I agreed with Edibleh's case. Case there.
So you are not scummy for refusing to lynch PX, but I am. And you admit to having no case whatsoever other than Edible's arguments, so you're not scumhunting in the slightest and aside from "agree with Edible", you're not putting in any effort to get the one you think is scum lynched.
F'rinstance, you're not voting me, and for second, after I voted you and called you Scum, your initial response was this (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg861246.html#msg861246). That seems a weird reaction to "Scum voting you" if you're so sure I'm Scum.
I think I am very satisfied with where my vote is for today.
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In fact I don't think anyone grasps how powerful a town BP is.
once claimed, you'll never get shot by scum and town will distrust you and consider you a policy lynch. pretty powerful dude
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None of you are scummy for this silly NL thing. Case closed.
Bard, why is the contradiction scummy?
Schezo, what about Bard's claim?
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for second, after I voted you and called you Scum, your initial response was this (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg861246.html#msg861246). That seems a weird reaction to "Scum voting you" if you're so sure I'm Scum.
NNR was calling it bad too.
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It was more to neko but thanks Bard for being clear.
OK huh what ok.
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I agree that it has power in this situation. One BP would effectively have stopped two kills. By the way Bard I will be extremely disapointed if you're actually the cop instead of Neko, neighbour QT's are made for those kinds of shenanigans.
People aren't going to change their minds about the No-lynch thing so let's change the subject. Because Edible isn't going to hold to people. I know you can ramble with the best of us, why is Bard scum in your own words? Edible didn't have a cop claim to consider before he made his case either.
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NNR was calling it bad too.
NNR is just one person. 1 Town + 1 Scum voting you should not result in "this fucking game", then throwing hands up and twiddling thumbs. If he thought I was Scum, he had the entire Night Phase to come up with a case to detail why I am Scum. Instead he persists that I am Scum and does not go beyond sheeping to Edible's ED1 case. There is no way that being voted by a Townie should provoke this kind of reaction from Town.
The contradiction is Scummy because asserting that A) Bard going for No Lynch is Scummy and B) No Lynch is superior to a PX Lynch are two statements that cannot go together, especially given the case that C) Schezo was going for No Lynch but getting voted for that is 'reaching'. Applying double standards is pro-Scum behaviour; At best it is tunnely Town with pygmalion trying desperately to fit their Scum suspect to a Scum profile, but I strongly do not believe that is the case, as Schezo does not have a case whatsoever aside from asserting that Edible was right about the self-meta thing. Town convinced of having caught Scum would likely do more than just sit on a sheeped case and do nothing else.
Cut by Schezo. One Townie voting you over something (especially a Townie you were quick to mock and degrade during the last stages of D1) should still not sollicit such a reaction.
Cut by Shadoweh. So how's about your reads today. Yesterday you were all "baaah sheep", too, I recall.
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Also Shadoweh stop being scummy. First going DON'T CLAIM (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg861214.html#msg861214) and then being all friendly by telling Scum that there are Neighbour Lover pairS (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg861221.html#msg861221) (which is infinitely more beneficial to Scum to know), then fishing for info here (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg861237.html#msg861237) and here (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg861303.html#msg861303).
What I did and did not talk to Neko about in our Neighbour QT and what we did and did not discuss prior to any claims are frankly none of your business and your continuous prying into it is Scummy. Take the following.
By the way Bard I will be extremely disapointed if you're actually the cop instead of Neko, neighbour QT's are made for those kinds of shenanigans.
What value is there in saying this other than attempting to provoke a reaction re: Which of us is Cop? Serela's been prying too to get answers about roles and frankly it's unsettling. Any information I do not volunteer is information I will not share and these attempts to pry at it (maybe hoping Neko'll say something) is fishy.
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##Vote: HW
:gut:
This is not really a serious vote thought out vote in the slightest and I will probably lynch something else today. But I'd like his name on the score sheet.
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It elicits that reaction because the case on me bad and people are liking it so I'm going to deal with people like Serela just jumping on for HEYYY all day and that's stupid.
One townie being voting me like that does make me want to pull a Sailor Moon yes. I'm doing that.
But didn't I want you voted at the end by saying you were scum for forcing a nl. That doesn't look to me like I was sitting on my ass not trying to get you lynched. HEYYY
But the nerve of me to get upset when just one person is voting me. Honestly I wanted to be nightkilled so I wouldn't have to keep reading this fucking game when day 1 ended like that. But what do I know. I'll make some reads later tonight because I'm seriously going to pull a Sailor Moon in a minute.
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dan ur gut sucks sorry
i think we should stop arguing and lynch serela. i haven't done my re-read yet because i'm lazy but i know i'm going to want him dead anyway, just look at all that flip-flopping on town!px yesterday
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Huh Whatty, case where.
Schezo are we seriously doing this AtE nonsense.
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Schezo:What does "Pull a Sailor Moon" even mean :c???
You're going to yell MOOOOON TIARAAAAAA MAGIIIIIIC and throw your headgear at someone and they'll turn into dust? (Or about the same with any of the later sailor moon attacks. As long as it isn't that really bland boring one from the start of the 4th season, Super Moon Target or whatever)
(I'm not actually speculating he's a vig, but I'm procrastinating on my nap, and the first sentence is an actual question)
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Bard: soon
Serela: schezo was sailor moon in mafia history mafia
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Shezo is acting like scum caught in the act and saying anything and everything to try to deflect his votes. The no-lynch thing sounds like convenient bullshit to justify his refusal to voteswitch.
D1's end was a panic-fest, though (which is my fault for making a move to protect my Cop Neighbor), but that doesn't really justify Shezo's blatant flailfest to make Bard look as bad as possible to try to secure his lynch, especially when he claimed cop. Especially now that it's obvious that... well, you know.
@Shadoweh: I claimed miller before I was made aware Bard was a cop.
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Also didn't you claim Governor? If you wanted to stop the lynch why didn't you?
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Shitty PBPA-ish thing because it's the most concise way I can point out how bad Serela's PX vote looks -
Early D1: #57 votepark with obvious answer, followed by rationalizing when called out on it (#127) even though his vote has no meat. Reaction to PX "XD TROLLED!!!!!!!!!" sounds frustrated he has to drop his case which he didn't even justify until after that post, and most of his reasons were for stuff from after he rationalized with "but PX looks pretty bad!".
Mid D1: Never expands on Shadoweh and Omba because they're not the dude he's mislynching. Unvotes PX for being town and before flipflopping back to "maybe PX is scum", but ragequits and never explains this weird train of thought even though I was pressing him for it at the time.
Late D1: As of #428, now wants to lynch PX again and does nothing to explain his thought process or earlier flip-flop. Between his PX unvote and now there has been no evolution of his case despite reactions to PX. Doesn't give a fuck for the rest of the day.
Bonus gut thing: His #119 bugs me because I dunno why he'd say "no offense" unless he wanted to avoid getting on Omba's bad side.
So yeah, his only opinion all day was on PX, it wasn't consistent, and he never explained the inconsistencies when prodded. Overall terrible D1 1/10 would not bang. Doubt this is just town!Serela waffling to because town Serela goes out of his way to justify his silliness when people call him out on it (and I did several times).
This is from an ISO and not a re-read. I will do the latter at some later hour.
Neko cut: British Governor Scum is an injoke based on how Schezo has a record of acting wordy and polite as scum but is concise and a dick as town. It's not a roleclaim.
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@Shadoweh: I claimed miller before I was made aware Bard was a cop.
Any information I do not volunteer is information I will not share and these attempts to pry at it (maybe hoping Neko'll say something) is fishy.
Neko. ;_;
Neko cut: British Governor Scum is an injoke based on how Schezo has a record of acting wordy and polite as scum but is concise and a dick as town. It's not a roleclaim.
So Schezo claiming British Governor means he's claiming Scum right. obv lynch choo choo
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Neko. ;_;
It was actually a valid question: fakeclaiming miller after cop is a lot more plausible. Which isn't the case. Which is good.
So Schezo claiming British Governor means he's claiming Scum right. obv lynch choo choo
None of this again please.
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None of this again please.
I'm actually fairly serious. If "Bard claiming ending RVS self-meta = scum", then Schezo being concise and a dick is clearly acting to his Meta while pointing out his Scum meta is British Governor, thus invoking self-meta, thus being clearly Scum.
Blah blah blah this level of reasoning is possible for Bardiche what do you guys think blah blah.
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You weren't scum. Why would he be? Don't make fun of dead townie's cases.
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'kay, schezo stuff.
I'm not sure I get your vote here. (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg859437.html#msg859437)I am totally open to you explaining it though. Right now though, my interpretation is "Neko thinks that Dan's obvious joke claim before the game even started is fine" as your reason for voting him though[/url], which would be horribad.
You also voice dislike of ActionDan (in preference over the BT wagon), but ??? for why. It amuses me considering your reason for voting Neko seems to be majorily over his reaction to people voting him for the joke claim (which is a silly reason to vote him for in a serious se.se, aka not-rvs, and I think Neko's statement about it was perfectly fine, or at the LEAST not something that made him scummy)
And then he just goes "SHEEP" on the Bard case. :T As in, I quote, "The Great Detective makes a solid case. I shall sheep. Vote:bard"
And when he comes back later, "Oh I don't like any of these wagons. But I'll still support lynching Bard." (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg860619.html#msg860619) (I also think his "flagrantly over the top" accusation on Neko as something he's scummy for is pretty silly here too)
Without getting into his great desire to see the claimed town cop neighbor lynched over his sudden townread PX, which he tried to justify today for because PX is a town power role. Even though bulletproofs are sort of useless after they claim, unless they're also obvtown for some reason I guess, which PX was by no means, and despite Bard being arguably the best powerrole who would likely get nk'd without us lynching him if he wasn't scum.
(Which, due to the ~*~reasons~*~ that have revealed by now, he almost assuredly isn't scum, so)
tl;dr I don't like Schezo's Neko stuff at all and his entire dislike of bard consists of sheeping (Nor did he even want Bard lynched much according to himself, but it was simply the one he'd rather have died out of the wagons, idk feels like a strange disconnect statement considering the rest of everything he's said about bard), along with various shenanigans outlined above, as a smaller aside both the people he wanted dead D1 are now prob-town
##vote:Schezo
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if the mod adds "[url=" to that first paragraph up in my post I'll be so happy ;_;
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Neko. ;_;
That quote doesn't prove nothin'
:colbert:
No but seriously guys/Shadoweh stop prying into who's the cop. Even if me or him is cop it's not going to help town much anyway proving who's who.
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For that matter I'd still like clarification on the state of the cop's night action.
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Serela, are you working on your other promised cases?
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Also that is mostly a semi-narrative list of "silly things Schezo has done" but silly is far from necessarily scummy.
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Also that is mostly a semi-narrative list of "silly things Schezo has done" but silly is far from necessarily scummy.
vote serela
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it's also incredibly likely serela isn't actually paying much attention to my posts because he's thrown me in the bin of "people he can't get a mislynch on", otherwise he should have been responding to me pressing him on stuff this entire time
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Also that is mostly a semi-narrative list of "silly things Schezo has done" but silly is far from necessarily scummy.
are you his scumbuddy >:C
(Actual reaction: ;_;. I'm used to being told my cases are terrible though so whatever. Eat your heart out, Esuna, nobody cares what you're pushing!)
HW:Actually I'm just lazy. Besides, I'm not sure how to explain how I was getting a town!read on PX there anyway. Because his thoughts actually looked sort of geniune townieness? Cases why people are town apart from select tells are sort of immaterial.
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what about his thoughts looked like genuine townieness?
what made you want to pick up the case again?
what happened to your shadoweh / omba reads?
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I'm still kind of jerking away from a Serela lynch after #530
HW what happened to your desire to kill Shadoweh, is it still there?
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Obituary Votecount
ActionDan: (0)
Bardiche: (0)
BT: (0)
Dormio: (0)
Dr. Rawr: (0)
huhwhat: ActionDan (1)
NekoNekoRex: (0)
Omba: (0)
Schezo: Bardiche, NekoNekoRex, Serela (3)
Serela: Dr. Rawr, huhwhat (2)
Shadoweh: BT (1)
Not Voting: Dormio, Omba, Schezo, Shadoweh
With 11 alive, it's 6 to lynch.
You have 42 (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20120723T0006&p0=236&msg=End+of+Day+Two) hours remaining.
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Serela, are you working on your other promised cases?
what promised cases
oh you mean shadoweh and omba?
eh I like concentrating on one at a time :c There's so much support for Schezo, the motivation to make cases on the others when a lynch I want to happen is already underway is eh. What if someone even sheeped the other case and got off the schezo wagon? No one listens to my cases anyway.
Maybe my line of thought would be a little different if I actually had to worry about not being around to make the case on them tomorrow, but I'm fine with being generally low on the list of people scum want to nk. I wouldn't have been on it last game either if I wasn't universally considered town, which doesn't necessarily mean I was actually a threat to scum (which I wasn't.)
HW:...i'unno. I picked up the case again because when I came back it was PX or Bard and I didn't want to lynch Bard, for one. I also started thinking I had perhaps overreacted with my sudden town read from his post. I'm not good at holding faith in my sudden town clears, which kind of sucks since in the past few games they've all been right :T
My Shadoweh read went away for ~*~reasons~*~ that I'd much rather not get into for other reasons unless people tried to lynch Shadoweh, and as said in my overall-reread-of-d1 post Omba is still in my 4-people-I'd-kill list.
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i think we should stop arguing and lynch serela. i haven't done my re-read yet because i'm lazy but i know i'm going to want him dead anyway, just look at all that flip-flopping on town!px yesterday
I agree with this. Also I pretty much haven't re-read yet and just quickly read over this day so far so have a vote. More also, Serela's #136 (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg859554.html#msg859554) is worse now in light of PX' flip. Even more also sheeping huhwhat who's sheeping rawr is enough reason anyway.
##Vote Serela
In other news, I have serious doubts about Schezo being scum. What he did at the end of the day reads a lot more like town trying everything to get someone lynched rather than scum doing it for :gambits:. Because really, he had no other reason to do that other than :gambits: if he were scum, unless maybe if PX were also scum, which he wasn't.
Not sure yet where to put BT now. But the Serela thing is solid anyway, so :care:.
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Oh wait actually Schezo is probably town because I don't think scum would have let it go down to less then a minute before lynch, when the person who would get lynched is A.Town B.Also Bulletproof (but more A)
I still think he's totally scummy, but I guess it's pretty likely he isn't :T
##unvote
god dammit now I made that entire case for nothing and have to make one on one of those other three people. Grrrr. ;_;
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Because that was a terrible case. Glad you see it.
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Guten morgen. (http://vocaroo.com/i/s00duWkENAzd)
Anyway, reading whatever happened while I was asleep now.
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I will put some serious time into making something in a few hours. I would happily sheep huh what though, he seems like a trustworthy etc. Actually he sounds just like Kanaya-Jesus and Kanaya would never lie to me. Serela could you please post reads on everyone so I can identify all your scumbuddies when you're lynched?
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I will put some serious time into making something in a few hours. I would happily sheep huh what though, he seems like a trustworthy etc. Actually he sounds just like Kanaya-Jesus and Kanaya would never lie to me. Serela could you please post reads on everyone so I can identify all your scumbuddies when you're lynched?
http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg861251.html#msg861251
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Rawr doing nothing is a thing. Poast moar.
Highly dislike Omba's behaviour. So he spends most of D1 voting BT without a case whilst arguing with people like NNR.
Oh right and PX got voted for... I have no idea, other than he's not making cases. Might as well vote me if you're voting him, which by extension means I'd have to think I'm scum to buy into that case. Which is decidedly not happening.
##Unvote
##Vote PX
No, I'm still not liking the idea of a Bard lynch today. And since we're not doing the quickwagon thing, Neko is out, too, so.
That's L-2 I think. Although wait, I think there's an error in the votecount somewhere. (goes to recheck)
:V
Why PX over trying to get BT lynched?
And what happened to your thoughts on BT and NNR? Jumping onto the Serela wagon without so much as mentioning anyone else is a thing.
##Vote Omba
I still dislike BT and ActionDan, but whatever for now.
To me, Serela reads as Serela. Whatever.
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dormio mite b scum btw
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:o
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caught
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Oh noez.
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Case:
that post is really shallow, the odds of omba getting a bt wagon to take off at that point were really low and you're being all magical madness dormio "whatever" about anything else, dancing around what actually matters so far today
looks like you're going for somebody who's easy to target but unlikely to turn into a wagon. hey thats p much what you did d1 too and i don't think anybody remembered you were in this game
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If what matters is Serela, then my opinion is that I think that Serela is town. Problem?
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##unvote
##vote:dormio
because ^
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:mymindisfulloffuck:
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This Cold and Uncaring World
ActionDan: (0)
Bardiche: (0)
BT: (0)
Dormio: dr rawr (1)
Dr. Rawr: (0)
huhwhat: ActionDan (1)
NekoNekoRex: (0)
Omba: Dormio (1)
Schezo: Bardiche, NekoNekoRex, (2)
Serela: huhwhat, Omba (2)
Shadoweh: BT (1)
Not Voting: Schezo, Shadoweh, Serela
With 11 alive, it's 6 to lynch.
You have 38 (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20120723T0006&p0=236&msg=End+of+Day+Two) hours remaining.
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I'm thinking there is definite scum between BT and ActionDan
cool, why'd u drop this
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I forgot we only had 48 hours. That's less silly then, I thought this was going to be one of those fucking 20 page day 1s again.
kill me
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Urge to decide the reason I'm clearing Shadoweh is dumb after all and rake D1 for a plethora of reasons she needs to die a horrible death
tingling
Okay I resisted it. Let's see here, Rawr.
first post out of rvs (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg859628.html#msg859628)
#2 (the avatar shens post doesn't count) (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg860301.html#msg860301)
On page 14 rawr says he's reading but then doesn't actually post by the end of d1 :T
d2 start (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg861242.html#msg861242) (Why the -hell- did HW sheep -that-?)
And then the one right there.
THERE WE GO FOLKS THAT'S RAWRS POSTS. NOTICE HOW THEY ARE ALL INCREDIBLY, INCREDIBLY EMPTY.
He's practically friggin Kaori. I mean the one from swordgirls, not the one that just died. (Oh wait the one that just died was Kaoru. Whatever.) Even rawr normally posts way better then this.
##Vote Dr Rawr
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The fact that scum isn't trying to cruise with an easy lynch on Rawr yet (obvious as no one voted him) only makes it more likely he's actually scum IMO. :T
(If my wagon says I'm scummy for attacking the easy target I'm going to kill everyone)
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re-readan
Pretty solid scum reads on Serela and Dormio, lynch between there thx. Serela's D1 was :bandwagon: and Dormio played it safe and didn't get himself directly involved against anybody. #112 (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg859485.html#msg859485) is the point where he realizes this is gonna isolate him from the rest of the day and that he needs to set up an ez wagon jump. If you ISO him he was pretty much Sidelining & Inoffensive Token Questioning?: The Player, no idea why Dan's vote isn't there atm.
Still dislike Shadoweh, when she said she'd re-read BT I didn't expect this to translate to her unvoting with no explanation then sheeping for the rest of the day. Would like to put more focus on the scummy people who slipped under the radar in hindsight though.
Other people: Bard and Neko should be dealt with by scum and not us. Dan bugs me, double suspicion on Bard-Shadoweh all day with him cheerleading me on Shadoweh despite obviously having no intent in switching doesn't seem like townie action, also gut on him randomly gutting me. Wouldn't be too sad to see Schezo go but I don't think his deadline hesitance is a big deal and there's more interesting stuff around. Didn't see the case on BT D1 and he hasn't gotten worse since then. I have no interest in lynching Omba. rawr is mai waifu.
##Unvote
##Vote: Dormio (L-4)
Decided I'm more confident in this flip but totally willing to go for Serela too.
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Not my fault if people don't ever want to agree with my thoughts.
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Also, since I feel like it and I don't actually have enough time before I need to go AFK, allow me to respond to HW.
The #112 point. I don't understand this. That post is at 9AM my time near the beginning of the game. You can basically consider that and my preceding two posts to be the firsts posts in the game by me. So how the fuck can you blame me for not getting involved with anybody before that point? Nice mudflinging?
Anyway, "Vote Omba 101" is a totally amazing class and you should totally enrol into it.
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Not my fault if people don't ever want to agree with my thoughts.
conf. scum
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:o
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Dormio, you never actually tried to get people to agree with your thoughts.
Skimming over his posts, yeah, Dormio is scum. Overdid the whole "I'm going to post now" "uh, I lost my post, but I'm writing now, really" "vote ##PX, Omba is bad btw" thing just a little.
##Unvote
##Vote Dormio
A Serela is fine too, but Dormio is worse. huhwhat, please don't change your choice of words so I can still tell when you're town and sheep you in future games.
And that Schezo wagon seriously needs to die.
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Dormio: it's not the fault of the other players, it's your fault because when people ignore you, you don't bother to engage in game discussion and try to convince them. if you were trying to sell your points toward other people i could see where you're coming from
as is, though, all you really did d1 was post questions that you didn't really go anywhere with while voting on small wagons with little support that were unlikely to go through
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Dormio is pretty much definitive scum. Lynch him.
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dormio isn't as bad as rawr but he's guilty in a similar manner, haven't reread him again so I don't really have specific stuff to cite atm but I'd be happy with voting him at consolidation time (At which point I'd probably reread him and at least make somewhat of a case)
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Game started while I was sick and had a lot of classes to attend in the following days.
I write my thoughts which explain why I think various people are suspicious, nobody even bothers to mention it or question me about it bar BT, who argues that he did not ignore something that I think he did.
Even now, my thoughts on Omba are being disregarded, are they not?
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Well, whatever.
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Why not make a case on him right now?
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( to Serela)
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I've already done that twice today ;_; (Okay rawr was -really- easy but)
Besides I'd still rather have Rawr's lynch then Dormio's. I could still see Dormio possibly flipping town. I'd be pretty surprised if rawr did.
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Dormio if you think I'm scum, push my lynch. If you're somehow actually town, that would help people get a read on you. Like, very much so.
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I've voted for you, given my reasons for doing so, and am willing to clarify on things people don't get.
Now I need to AFK so whatever.
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Serela: Is there anything in rawr's posts themselves that makes him scum? Because I'd rather not lynch the giant lurker over the obvious scum.
Serious question. Because all I got from rawr's posts is "lol I'm lurking and don't give a shit".
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Serela: Is there anything in rawr's posts themselves that makes him scum? Because I'd rather not lynch the giant lurker over the obvious scum.
Serious question. Because all I got from rawr's posts is "lol I'm lurking and don't give a shit".
He barely explains his votes, either with a single slight reason or none at all.
It's hard for there to be specific things in rawrs posts that make him scum, because there's almost nothing in his posts, which is scummy in itself.
If this is a repeat of Kaori where he lurks so bad that not enough people are even interested in voting him to get a lynch I'm gonna aarrrggghhhhhhh
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pretty sure i gave a reason when i voted you. is this just an omgus serela?
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is this just an omgus serela?
how is it an omgus
when I did it you weren't even -voting- me anymore
I barely even mention your vote of me
:C
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You are Already Dead
ActionDan: (0)
Bardiche: (0)
BT: (0)
Dormio: Dr. Rawr, huhwhat, Omba (3) [L-3]
Dr. Rawr: Serela (1)
huhwhat: ActionDan (1)
NekoNekoRex: (0)
Omba: Dormio (1)
Schezo: Bardiche, NekoNekoRex (2)
Serela: (0)
Shadoweh: BT (1)
Not Voting: Schezo, Shadoweh
With 11 alive, it's 6 to lynch.
You have 37 (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20120723T0006&p0=236&msg=End+of+Day+Two) hours remaining.
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##Vote: Omba
Is there a case you won't sheep to? I'm being serious here.
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Seriously though, someone tell me, are my reasons for voting Omba hard to understand or something?
Because really. :/
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Whatever happened to "Shezo trying to get the cop lynched"?
Other questions are "Why is huhwhat voting Dormio and ignoring how shallow Rawr is", "Why is Omba surprisingly terrible this game", and "Why are people trying to lynch Serela over D1 waffles when this is normally blown off as Serela meta"
Currently all of these cases by HW look surprisingly weak and poor.
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More questions
I will put some serious time into making something in a few hours. I would happily sheep huh what though, he seems like a trustworthy etc. Actually he sounds just like Kanaya-Jesus and Kanaya would never lie to me. Serela could you please post reads on everyone so I can identify all your scumbuddies when you're lynched?
"Why is Shadoweh constantly trying to get herself lynched for these kinds of posts"
"Why are the only cases that contain the word 'sheep' on people that HW/Rawr refuse to lynch"
"Why are people ignoring the blatant Shezo sheeping when there (was) a decent wagon on him
Because that was a terrible case. Glad you see it.
"If sarcasm is a scum emotion, is smugness also a scum emotion?"
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Before I start:
Neko you and Bard are going to death tunnel me and that's part of the reason why I'm so pissed today. You won't stop, I know this. So I'm going to ignore you two.
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Neko is actually hunting at a lot of people -other- then you right now o_o
I was kind of ignoring HW's weirdness (This isn't like how HW normally is at all) because I'm gotten some sort of mental complex about failing over figuring out HW's alignment by now, and because as scum every time before now he's still looked like glorious town. :S I have no idea whether I'd want to lynch him or not. I'd support a vig on him if it wasn't for that fact that, like in Swordgirls, there are obv.scum that no one agrees with me on and it feels like power role deaths are the only way I could get them dead despite them being horribly obvscum to me.
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Is there a case you won't sheep to? I'm being serious here.
Plenty. There's a lot I didn't and quite a few I wouldn't.
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> Vigshot
> huhwhat
No, seriously. What the fuck.
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I don't know why people think huh what is unreadable.
He is clearly always town.
Seriously though this is exactly what he was like in IMP Mafia you just don't remember because you were busy making people into lovers. SEE EVERYTHING COMES BACK TO BEING ABOUT LOVERS. LOVERS EVERYWHERE AHAHAHA
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Also word choice, as I said. huhwhat is town.
More also, push me more Shadoweh. I doubt people are going to listen to just that one liner if they mostly ignored me jumping in their faces about BT.
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Oh bby. You're lucky I gave even a one-liner. I thought just voting you after your what, third vote change in less then 10 hours was sufficient? You don't seem like you care who you're voting as long as someone agrees with you.
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Serela: I didn't think your case was that horrid when I read the first three paragraphs and said no. But it is.
For someone who admits they made a bad case (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg861428.html#msg861428) on someone for general nulltells and erratic town behavior of townies being townies. That'd be terrible for me if PX were to flip scum but what did he flip? Town.
You sure did like to bash BT for calling you out on that bad case (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg861392.html#msg861392) here for no reason. Your response is I always make bad cases and he's a growing BW so W/E.
eh I like concentrating on one at a time :c There's so much support for Schezo, the motivation to make cases on the others when a lynch I want to happen is already underway is eh. What if someone even sheeped the other case and got off the schezo wagon? No one listens to my cases anyway.
Maybe my line of thought would be a little different if I actually had to worry about not being around to make the case on them tomorrow, but I'm fine with being generally low on the list of people scum want to nk. I wouldn't have been on it last game either if I wasn't universally considered town, which doesn't necessarily mean I was actually a threat to scum (which I wasn't.)
Terrible.
You waffled PX all of yesterday and used both of our townreads on him to fos me which is just hrrrrn.
So you throw away all of it away when you find that only you and the deathtunnelers are the ones pushing my lynch so bail that.
You attacking BT for discrediting your case clearly shows you were into my lynch so just saying oops isn't enough. Would lynch.
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Dormio's complete lack of any commentary at all of what went on at the end of the day bothers me.
His apathy towards everything also bothers me.
Not as much as Serela but I find this case legitamite and support it.
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Omba and Shadoweh is strange. I can't make any alignment tells out of it so far so they're both leaning null.
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Serela wants to vig huh what for little more than gut. Cool.
Neko is just giving a few terrible lines Serela, why are they yours to defend?
I'm not convinced he's a miller I think he's scum but I'm biased today so I'm looking elsewhere for now. Hate me for it. All of these are bad and I think Serela wants Neko to defend him since Neko is defending Serela for godknowswhy.
Why is huhwhat voting Dormio and ignoring how shallow Rawr is
Regardless of player you get your solid scumreads before going to lynch all lurkers.
Why is Omba surprisingly terrible this game
This is nothing more than a potshot at someone's character and nothing in game. Point it out of you think what he's doing is terrible.
Why are people trying to lynch Serela over D1 waffles when this is normally blown off as Serela meta
Because they're more to Serela that says scum than just his waffles. Why are you meta defending him? Is he a strong townread?
##Vote: Serela
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Oh bby. You're lucky I gave even a one-liner. I thought just voting you after your what, third vote change in less then 10 hours was sufficient? You don't seem like you care who you're voting as long as someone agrees with you.
That's blatant bullshit. Keep trying.
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Wow gratz to Schezo for saying I'm bashing BT when I basically said in the very next line of that post that I was kidding :T
And apparently I'm bailing the schezo case for lack of support when it'd only been TWO HOURS since I made it and MOST OF THE OTHER PLAYERS HADN'T EVEN POSTED YET :T So I totally knew the Schezo wagon wasn't going anywhere, as opposed to, actually just realizing he probably wasn't scum. And decided to empty unvote rather then sit on my laurels where I was perfectly fine until I at least had a different case to jump on.
Schezo half your case on me is horrible misrep. You misrep Neko as tunneling on you right after he makes two posts full of other people he thinks are scum (Even if you think they're terrible lines, it means he isn't tunneling, and the accusation is ridiculous)
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clearly shows you were into my lynch so just saying oops isn't enough
and schezo decides people aren't allowed to realize their scumreads are actually town, or that makes them scum
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"Why is huhwhat voting Dormio and ignoring how shallow Rawr is"
rawr is mai waifu
PS: my D2 scumread was right in IMP too 8)
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Not when you lash back against the people who tell you about your case but good one.
The accusation that Neko makes a comment at least towards me every other post. Are you reading the same game I am?
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I think we just have different definitions of tunneling.
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shadoweh, how much of omba's play have you read and formed an opinion on?
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Dormio's complete lack of any commentary at all of what went on at the end of the day bothers me.
Except for where I say that I dislike Omba more for his behaviour at the end of D1 and vote him for it? ???
His apathy towards everything also bothers me.
Have some pity for the ill and elderly. (I actually have been quite sick since this mafia started.)
Well what the fuck do you want from me? I tell you people why Omba is bothering me, everyone ignores me. I've been ignored in pretty much every single game, so why should I give a shit?
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Serious question
Why is half the playerbase not playing and/or jumping on easy cases
Yes, I have doubt in these wagons and I think they are pretty much crapshoots. I'm worried about townies being so bad they're justifying their own instawagons at this point.
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Would like to put more focus on the scummy people who slipped under the radar in hindsight though.
Why
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Sometimes, all you need is.... despair
ActionDan: (0)
Bardiche: (0)
BT: (0)
Dormio: Dr. Rawr, huhwhat, Omba (3) [L-3]
Dr. Rawr: Serela (1)
huhwhat: ActionDan (1)
NekoNekoRex: (0)
Omba: Dormio, Shadoweh (2)
Schezo: Bardiche, NekoNekoRex (2)
Serela: Schezo (1)
Shadoweh: BT (1)
Not Voting: No one.
With 11 alive, it's 6 to lynch.
You have 32 (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20120723T0006&p0=236&msg=End+of+Day+Two) hours remaining.
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I had a post here but I got interrupted by someone breaking my window and scaring my shit
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Almost sounds like you were assaulted.
People are voting Omba. What the fuck?
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BT, I think Omba is a valid lynch today too, although definitely not my purrfur'd one.
I think Shadoweh is treading the line between "snarky sideliner" and "scum idiot"
Then again when isn't he doing this?
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Omba has been super reasonable ever since he started showing opinions. If you can't see it then I don't know how I can help you.
I have no idea what line she is treading, what I do know is that she's scum and needs to be lynched.
she
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she
:colonveeplusalpha:
I still think Huhwhat is probtown but he has really poor lynchchoices.
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I agree with that.
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It's just D1 Omba gave me the most awful gut. I still don't get why she so desperately stuck to her random gut vote, normally she :tries: alot more. It's just not the Omba I know.
D2 is improvement but hasn't counteracted my gut yet.
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Shadoweh, are you aware of the reasons you're constantly a Policy D1 Lynch or do you try every Mafia game to see how hard you can troll before people start a wagon?
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Why is half the playerbase not playing and/or jumping on easy cases
Yes, I have doubt in these wagons and I think they are pretty much crapshoots. I'm worried about townies being so bad they're justifying their own instawagons at this point.
easy targets means they have done something scummy and should be lynched for. why is this a problem?
serela & dormio are legit scummier than shadoweh imo and we're not letting them fly under the radar because they're derps (dormio isn't even a derp)
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It's just D1 Omba gave me the most awful gut. I still don't get why she so desperately stuck to her random gut vote, normally she :tries: alot more. It's just not the Omba I know.
D2 is improvement but hasn't counteracted my gut yet.
he
Hold on while I grab some quotes.
Shadoweh, are you aware of the reasons you're constantly a Policy D1 Lynch or do you try every Mafia game to see how hard you can troll before people start a wagon?
???
easy targets means they have done something scummy and should be lynched for. why is this a problem?
serela & dormio are legit scummier than shadoweh imo and we're not letting them fly under the radar because they're derps (dormio isn't even a derp)
Serela is a derp, Dormio isn't trying. Dormio looked like authentic towntunnel for most of the game, latest posts are eh but I don't think they're scum. Easy targets are a problem because if they turn up town you have no leads because everyone had a good reason to wagon them. And like I said I think there's a decent chance a townflip will happen because these are more or less crapshoots.
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you're giving scummy people passes for being scummy because ____. that's really fucked up
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easy target =/= town
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he
:colonveeplusalpha:
-Keine-tan- NekoNekoRex is (#1) gender incompetent
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shadoweh, how much of omba's play have you read and formed an opinion on?
Just his Day 2 posts. It feels like the follow a pattern of Someone posts case > Omba posts paragraph about how person is scummy and is gung-ho with lynch > Someone posts case > Omba posts para(ry > Someone post(ry <-- This is really fucking weird this many times in a row and makes it feel like he doesn't care who's getting lynched as long as it's someone. That's just how I feel about it. It's the trending of GUT.
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BT: There were approximately 5 people you could classify as 'easy targets' if you're including hardened veterans like Dormio. The chances that none of them got a scum role pm because it would be 'hard' are 0%.
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Has anyone seen ActionDan? I havenSHEZO't
gotten a read off him the whole game. Oh wait that's a lie. I still think he needs to wake up and post more.
Where's Bard? :(
I need him back with me to heSHEZOlp me be less terrible at Mafia. :(
I'm not really seeing Dormio (as a valid lynch) either.
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he "sheeped"....... twice. and he was already suspecting serela d1.
i don't think his votes are unfounded. the only things about omba i find scummy right now are: - dunno what his thoughts on bt are right now which is kinda odd, - he said he was town-reading edible earlygame then he started to nag edible on a silly point mid-d1 as if the town read randomly faded
so yeah not interested in wagoning him.
i think omba himself was an easier target than dormio at daystart though. rawr is not an easy target because there's little support for it and if you vote him people will start attacking you for voteparking on the really obvious lurker case, also she's mai waifu
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huh what are you scum with rawr again
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>:I
All this neighbor stuff makes my head hurt. I can't tell if people are going to be faking it, if people are just scumbuddies, or if there are "neighbor scum" running around.
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huh what are you scum with rawr again
guess im caught
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you're giving scummy people passes for being scummy because ____. that's really fucked up
I'm not giving them a pass, in fact I acknowledge that they're doing scummy shit but I'm not feeling the scum part and instead feeling like these wagons are way too easy.
Well whatever. Dormio's wagon is you Omba and uhhh Rawr so it's not as scum-motivated as I'm making it out to be. I guess I'm just waffling. I'll try and cure this by the end of the day.
Shadoweh they're not necessarily 'easy targets', they're 'easy wagons'. Easy wagons can happen on veterans too.
NNR, here you go:
Okay, then in more plain words: Your case requires assuming that a) No town player other than maybe Bard would do this (which is a stretch) and b) completely ignores a certain recent game that just may have an influence on how he reacts this game. Or in short, it's pretty obvious that he'd flip out at the first sign of :shenanigans: after the way town tripped over itself last time, particularly if those shenanigans involve someone basically claiming scum. Yes, Mason Miller is a scum claim.
Seriously, making a pygmalion case on Bard of all people.
In other news, I have serious doubts about Schezo being scum. What he did at the end of the day reads a lot more like town trying everything to get someone lynched rather than scum doing it for :gambits:. Because really, he had no other reason to do that other than :gambits: if he were scum, unless maybe if PX were also scum, which he wasn't.
Examples of town Omba.
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All of Dormio's posts d2 make me feel like he isn't scum but I might not be juggling my clear reasons correctly. HOWEVER, at this rate he's going to be the only wagon that gets anywhere :T
I'd really, really love to lynch Kaori 2.0, but no one else seems to care about Rawr lurking the fuck out of the game and making fluff posts. Come on. Rawr has shown that he's way better then what he's been doing this game.
The fact that no one else cares is only making it more kaori 2.0 because after d2 no one else cared there either ;_;
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sometimes wagons are easy because the scum are obvious. i think that's what's happening here
i was buddies with rawr last game and he doesn't read scum to me here. ymmv. also: buddies wifom
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he also replaced out before doing anything d2
and you being scum with him last game makes it different. Even if you're neighbors, if, for example, he's scum and you're not, he's likely not really going to act the same as when you're both scum together.
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didn't rawr act fairly similarly d1 of last game anyway?
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Shadoweh, I actually went back and read my own posts just to make sure - I switched once. Twice if you count not opening the day with continuing to vote BT. If you're going to make a case, at least make it line up with the facts.
Also Dormio's #638 is bad. Really bad. Vote that scum.
Neko, define trying.
--cut cut ry(
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Well what the fuck do you want from me?
This is meta by now :colonveeplusalpha:
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i guess i should be pushing my case:
dormio's indignance reads like i do when i'm scum and i want to sound more upset than i actually am because Emotion Is Townie
meta says that town dormio would be chill about this, mildly annoyed at worst. anti-town dormio likes fakerage.
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Goddarnit you're right
I-I guess I'll finish this reread first.
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i mean yeah dormio has an apathy meta but he doesn't sound like he's actually apathetic, otherwise he wouldn't be getting mad at people
i wish that i would stop having to use meta to decide if <dumb thing X> certain people are doing is scum-motivated in this case or just them being themselves every time i play here, it makes scumhunting unfun
cut ok
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All of Dormio's posts d2 make me feel like he isn't scum but I might not be juggling my clear reasons correctly
Why?
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and you being scum with him last game makes it different. Even if you're neighbors, if, for example, he's scum and you're not, he's likely not really going to act the same as when you're both scum together.
rawr lets his buddies influence him as scum. if he has buddies in this game then they're just letting him do whatever the fuck he wants and fsr not deciding to bus him when his posts turn up kaori-tier
i don't think he's a huge problem right now
didn't rawr act fairly similarly d1 of last game anyway?
not really
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if he has buddies in this game then they're just letting him do whatever the fuck he wants and fsr not deciding to bus him when his posts turn up kaori-tier
it worked pretty well for kaori
it's still working pretty well apparently
SIGH.
OH MY GOD IT'S 4:40 AM WHY AM I AWAKE
Omba:The wording and feeling from his posts I guess? I work a lot off of that sort of stuff, but not nearly as much in the last few games as I used to. But since it's so late it night it's nearly about to be morning the next day (ohgodohgodohgod) I'd take any sort of reading like that from me with a grain of salt.
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-_- Fiiiine.
##Unvote
##Vote: Dormio
Day 5 coming early whoo! :toot:
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rawr lets his buddies influence him as scum. if he has buddies in this game then they're just letting him do whatever the fuck he wants and fsr not deciding to bus him when his posts turn up kaori-tier
see but the thing about kaori is that her posts were terrible so even though she had the strongest role of all the scum, they tried to double-bus her day 2 for Sweet Cred. why aren't scum piling up on rawr right now?
the obvious answer is that there's no cred to be obtained, just scumminess from policy lynching the difficult "easy target"
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I work a lot off of that sort of stuff
this is part of the reason I can't explain things half the time. It's more like I'm trying to psychoanalyze them then do something that... people actually make cases with.
This game I've barely done any of that and the upside is I'm actually getting cases out of it yay. Even if I'm dropping them all later FUCK. Which makes me want to go back to "HOW DOES IT MAKE ME FEEEEEEEEL" scumhunting.
hw:Most of town also actually wanted to kill kaori d2, but several of the people thought PX was just a little bit worse then kaori was being (for about the same reasons as kaori) and voted him instead. D3 suddenly no one wanted to kill Kaori anymore for god knows why, but d2 most people did actually want kaori/px dead. (I swear I'm not being the Uesugi from that situation, since I actually have other targets in addition to Kaori.)
I like how I don't remember who PX was. :I (I also wonder if I'm going to wake up and wonder what the heck I'm trying to say here.)
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fwiw I don't think rawr is scum either. He feels a little more tryhard and less trollface. More honest.
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>tryhard
>nonexistent with empty posts
I am confus
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Re: HW,
And I can't be cranky because I'm sick and this shit happens in every game?
Can someone confirm that they've at least read what I've said about Omba?
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Can someone confirm that they've at least read what I've said about Omba?
i did and told you why i didn't agree with your focal point: there wasn't enough interest in a bt wagon at a time for it to make sense for him to keep pushing
you never responded.
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Oh, I missed that. I'll address it now.
I do not think that that was the case. BT was still the wagon with the third highest number of votes, one behind PX until people started jumping there.
But yes, let's give Omba a pass on that because PX/Bardiche were more interesting to other people.
Where have Omba's opinions in regards to BT gone?
IIRC Omba hasn't mentioned BT at all today, despite how badly he wanted to lynch BT the other day.
This means that Omba could have just as easily picked up BT today if other people were suspicious of BT.
However what Omba did instead was jump onto the Serela wagon, which I happen to disagree with.
This was after he failed to mention Serela at all during D1 with his random pokes on other people whilst voting BT.
So my point was not the failure to continue pushing BT at the end of the day but rather how he handled BT during the time period that is the end of the day.
Any more questions?
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Oh, I missed that. I'll address it now.
I do not think that that was the case. BT was still the wagon with the third highest number of votes, one behind PX until people started jumping there.
But yes, let's give Omba a pass on that because PX/Bardiche were more interesting to other people.
Where have Omba's opinions in regards to BT gone?
IIRC Omba hasn't mentioned BT at all today, despite how badly he wanted to lynch BT the other day.
This means that Omba could have just as easily picked up BT today if other people were suspicious of BT.
However what Omba did instead was jump onto the Serela wagon, which I happen to disagree with.
This was after he failed to mention Serela at all during D1 with his random pokes on other people whilst voting BT.
So my point was not the failure to continue pushing BT at the end of the day but rather how he handled BT during the time period that is the end of the day.
Any more questions?
Fuck this router my internet cut out while I was trying to post.
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And then I notice that somehow the message had gotten through. :toot:
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would like omba to respond to this himself, i'm going to bed
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(but i'll post my thoughts on it in the morning)
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I would happily sheep huh what though
##Unvote
##Vote: Shadoweh
0 cases all game every game except for a trivial point that even I, who wanted BT lynched, could not see, understand or agree to and you're voting Omba for sheeping then you sheep to the Dormio case while blatantly saying you'd happily sheep to huh what. :V
Neko let's drop Schezo like a potato and focus on the other Scum like Shadoweh. In fact you don't need to sheep me let me sheep you instead. Because this game is sheep.
This game.
Seriously I'm having trouble actually caring because of everyone's just going ??? this time around.
cool, why'd u drop this
~*Night Phase*~
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So my point was not the failure to continue pushing BT at the end of the day but rather how he handled BT during the time period that is the end of the day.
Highly dislike Omba's behaviour. So he spends most of D1 voting BT without a case whilst arguing with people like NNR.:V
Why PX over trying to get BT lynched?
I have serious problems reading what's stated in the first quote out of the second one. Although to begin with, I don't really get what you're actually saying in the first one.
Where exactly is the difference between me not pushing BT anymore near the end of the day and "how I handled BT at the end of the day"?
If you can tell me that difference, I might be able to tell you more. If there is no difference... well, you know right, nice long rope waiting for and you all.
Anyway, next. First, voting PX over BT was because a) the BT lynch clearly wasn't happening (number of votes means nothing if there's not enough people potentially interested in voting him) and b) I absolutely wanted to avoid having Bard die since I had a hard townread on him and all. PX was also in town territory, but nowhere near Bard, so.
Now to your main point. I've mentioned BT exactly once today and that was saying that I have no idea where to put him.
Why I voted Serela instead of BT: The Serela case was (and is, btw) solid and I had felt dislike for him since pretty early in D1, ever since that one post after PX said he had done his ED1 shenanigans to get reactions. Furthermore, I've pushed BT's lynch for all of D1 and even then I was pretty far from actually getting him lynched. Why bother wasting the effort for another day when there's someone else who's scummy and actually lynchable? All I do only has meaning if it ends in a scum lynch.
So much for the technical side. As for actual reads, I've liked BT's posts I had seen before voting Serela a lot better than the ones on D1 and Serela's less. As evidenced by... my vote, yes.
And as for now, BT's in my null bin, which means I'll pretty much continue to ignore him today unless something sticks out that I want to poke at. Pretty much like I mostly ignored you and Schezo yesterday (if memory serves me right), a few mentions of the former aside.
Oh and since you asked about Neko: Not much interest in him now, D1 claim with Bard and all.
Shadoweh, I appreciate the fact that you voted Dormio, but the -_- tells me you're displeased with something. Tell me more.
Serela: I see. ... Well, try and skim over a few games where he was town and tell me if you still think so.
--cut by Bard
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Bard, what do you think about the Dormio & Serela stuff?
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I'll go first and say I still don't want to lynch Shadoweh.
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Sheep!
ActionDan: (0)
Bardiche: (0)
BT: (0)
Dormio: Dr. Rawr, huhwhat, Omba, Shadoweh (4) [L-2]
Dr. Rawr: Serela (1)
huhwhat: ActionDan (1)
NekoNekoRex: (0)
Omba: Dormio (1)
Schezo: NekoNekoRex (1)
Serela: Schezo (1)
Shadoweh: BT, Bardiche (2)
Not Voting: No one.
With 11 alive, it's 6 to lynch.
You have 26~ (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20120723T0006&p0=236&msg=End+of+Day+Two) hours remaining.
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oh jeez i think i know what huhwhat is getting at.
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Unless it's related to cases Rawrcakes, it's not as important as you not being a Kaori and posting for people. I am not exactly rolling in cred here so I can't buy you an obvtown pass.
ilu Bard now stop that. I can't sheep you with votes like that. In all seriousness, it's been 24 hours now, who did you investigate and did you get a result?
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yeah omba pretty much pointed out all the reasons i thought the case on him was bad
i'm still ok with a shadoweh lynch but like a dormio lynch more. honestly shadoweh/dormio competing wagons would be kinda neat, though serela/dormio would be better. dormio should be lynched over anybody else though
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Alright, I think Omba manaSHEZOged to push off most of the bad gut I had on him with that post.
Still dunno about Dormio as the main lynch today. I'd at least let him be content to respoSHEZOnd to Omba's post furst before I consider jumping to that wagon.
Shadoweh lynch is acceptable and I will jump on it as soon if Dormio's post doesn't make me want to lynch him.
##Unvote
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dormio is a she
http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt56/haeun0719/IMGP2491.jpg
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dormoe
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dormio is a she
http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt56/haeun0719/IMGP2491.jpg
(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z177/King_Yoshi42/130221984383.png)
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she used to pretend to be a boy because it's the internet, we only recently learned of this. i keep forgetting to switch pronouns
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I don't have any desire to lynch Dormio-dongseng at this point.
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The #112 point. I don't understand this. That post is at 9AM my time near the beginning of the game. You can basically consider that and my preceding two posts to be the firsts posts in the game by me. So how the fuck can you blame me for not getting involved with anybody before that point? Nice mudflinging?
it occurs to me i never responded to this
if you didn't like bt you could have included that in your initial post. instead you waited and it makes it look like you thought you didn't have enough room if the dan wagon failed completely, so you set up a wagon jump
bard stop fucking white knighting. you would be all over this dormio case if she was a guy
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☆〜（ゝ。∂） It's unfortunate, but Dormio-dongseng has caught my heart. Dormio-dongseeeeng! 사랑해요사랑해요사랑해요사랑해요사랑해요사랑해요사랑해요사랑해요!!
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Rabu rabu Renkoooooooooooooooooo~❤
Wait Renko killed me I need a different example.
it occurs to me i never responded to this
if you didn't like bt you could have included that in your initial post. instead you waited and it makes it look like you thought you didn't have enough room if the dan wagon failed completely, so you set up a wagon jump
huh, what?
So I don't even get time to reread on things that I'm not sure of. GOod to know. :/
Not like it was 9AM or anything, I had just gotten up, there were 4 pages of mafia, and I had uni later that day while sick or anything. Nope, apparently my failure to instantly assess the situation makes me scum.
Also are you buddies with Omba?
I have serious problems reading what's stated in the first quote out of the second one. Although to begin with, I don't really get what you're actually saying in the first one.
It's called you fucking did the equivalent of nothing during the entirety of D1.
You poked and prodded at everything that wasn't BT, but you never gave the impression that you were going to move your vote off of BT. I'm gathering this part off your insistence to other people to join your wagon.
No seriously tell me at what point during D1 you were actually presenting a case on BT.
Where exactly is the difference between me not pushing BT anymore near the end of the day and "how I handled BT at the end of the day"?
If you can tell me that difference, I might be able to tell you more. If there is no difference... well, you know right, nice long rope waiting for and you all.
There is a big difference.
I don't care about you not pushing BT at the end of the day. Like I said, I can ignore that given PX/Bardiche being apparently far more interesting.
HOWEVER, you completely forgot about BT. You never mentioned him again. This is what I mean by how you handled BT.
Scum disconnect or whatever the fuck you people want to call it. How come I'm called on this crap when I supposedly do it, but you're defending Omba for it?
Anyway, next. First, voting PX over BT was because a) the BT lynch clearly wasn't happening (number of votes means nothing if there's not enough people potentially interested in voting him) and b) I absolutely wanted to avoid having Bard die since I had a hard townread on him and all. PX was also in town territory, but nowhere near Bard, so.
Yes, I said I don't care about this because Bard/PX being interesting is a plausible excuse to me.
I do dislike how easily you gave up the BT lynch, but whatever. I don't really care anymore.
Now to your main point. I've mentioned BT exactly once today and that was saying that I have no idea where to put him.
Yes, and compared to how gung-ho you were about his lynch yesterday, what the bloody fuck.
Why I voted Serela instead of BT: The Serela case was (and is, btw) solid and I had felt dislike for him since pretty early in D1, ever since that one post after PX said he had done his ED1 shenanigans to get reactions. Furthermore, I've pushed BT's lynch for all of D1 and even then I was pretty far from actually getting him lynched. Why bother wasting the effort for another day when there's someone else who's scummy and actually lynchable? All I do only has meaning if it ends in a scum lynch.
So much for the technical side. As for actual reads, I've liked BT's posts I had seen before voting Serela a lot better than the ones on D1 and Serela's less. As evidenced by... my vote, yes.
The Serela case is bullshit btw.
But oh yes, let's talk about your dislike of Serela.
Yeah, sure, let's say that you disliked Serela D1.
I like the part where you did absolutely nothing about it.
The entirety of your mentions of Serela D1 are you sitting on the fence in regards to Serela.
"Oh no I need to see if I dislike Serela."
"Oops Serela posted something but I can't tell what I think about Serela yet."
"Oops Serela posted again but my opinion still remains cloudy."
"Oo(ry
Also that reasoning is fucking bullshit.
"Too hard to lynch"? What the fuck are you trying to be here? Shadoweh?
Seriously, you're making me laugh here with how much of a pussy you're being. BTW scum are pussies.
And now you decide that you like BT's posts? When the fuck did that happen.
Tell me oh great one, because apparently thou art far superior in hunting the scumz than thineself, how did you go from wanting BT dead to liking him?
And as for now, BT's in my null bin, which means I'll pretty much continue to ignore him today unless something sticks out that I want to poke at. Pretty much like I mostly ignored you and Schezo yesterday (if memory serves me right), a few mentions of the former aside.
"Hi I'm going to bandwagon everything."
Towniest position ever.
Oh and since you asked about Neko: Not much interest in him now, D1 claim with Bard and all.
And, of course, by "not much interest" you mean "I'm waiting for other people to vote him so I can jump on" right?
AND IS ANYONE OUTSIDE OF HW AND OMBA EVEN READING WHAT I'M SAYING.
@DrRawr: Why the fuck are you posting my picture here.
Also, while I'm frustrated, can I say that I don't like Dan signing up for games if he's going to call V/LA every fucking weekend?
It's like fucking hell be around to play the game or don't play at all.
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I'd sheep dormio
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I'd sheep dormio
And now I'm okay with a Serela lynch.
I'm okay with lynching all the sheep.
All you goddamn sheep.
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(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt56/haeun0719/53-too-many-sheep.jpg)
Too many fucking sheep.
Warning - while you were typing a new reply has been posted. You may wish to review your post.
Fuck you Renko.
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Let's all. Lynch Serela.
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...D: Ummm I change my mind?
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serela, do you expect rawr to be a viable lynch today at this point?
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Not really, but technically rawr is also only one vote behind the only non-dormio wagon
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if you're town you need to quit rationalizing and make yourself useful. i'm contemplating switching back to your wagon.
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Let's all. Lynch Serela.
:getdown:
Also I thought about this and I guess I'm OK with not assuming Schezo scum even though baah sheep yesterday ffgdssdfbd so much hate for the sheep this game. But yeah end of day actually if you consider not as dunk-in scum as I thought, tunnel Bard etc.
Dormio: I read your posts in the adorable voice of Dormio-dongseng, but simmer down on the RAGE and FURY because I'm pretty frustrated with how everyone thinks it's OK to just go sheep this game but there's no profit in going off the handle and raging and furying. It just makes me want to put you out of your misery.
if you're town you need to quit rationalizing and make yourself useful. i'm contemplating switching back to your wagon.
:dragonforce:
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Also I think that Scum is definitely sheeping (GUT!) so I'm okay with lynching sheep one by one until people learn to stop sheeping to others and actually scumhunt. This nonsense has to be culled.
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Mmkay so
A.I said it halfway as a way to state that I don't really support the dormio lynch anymore
B.Omba was already in my list of people to kill in the first place :T
Happy now? The main reason I said sheep instead of anything else is because a third of the players have been using the damn term over and over. If you think sheeping is horrible, that's a lot of the reason people who don't like Omba, don't like Omba, so we could totally vote the person who's been doing it for a long time instead of the person who just did it once and then everyone glares at me :c
For that matter I guess I should decide which wagon I'd rather get on since I'm not okay with a Dormio lynch anymore and any other lynch would sort of need some help in order to have a chance at beating his wagon.
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I swear I should've just kept lurking and then no one would have cared, because there's been almost zero posting today.
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because there's been almost zero posting today.
Well, until I posted and then everyone yelled at me, that is.
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Also I think that Scum is definitely sheeping (GUT!) so I'm okay with lynching sheep one by one until people learn to stop sheeping to others and actually scumhunt. This nonsense has to be culled.
i'm alright with sheeping if you outline what about the case you find agreeable and make it clear where your priorities lie - after all, there will obviously be times when other people beat you to good points and you find yourself agreeing with them, and the whole point of scumhunting is to get other people to lynch the scum you find with you anyway.
in any case, omba has been doing what i was talking about in the first sentence of the post, serela and shadoweh just sound like they're too lazy to play the damn game when they're typically better. rawr doesn't typically do much better so i have to pull in meta to read him.
serela, re-read omba, dormio and shadoweh, post results
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*pull in further meta i guess. i dunno
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huh what: But the sheep in this game haven't done that. Just "I'm sheeping x, I agree with his case". It's very very frustrating since zero effort. Take Shadoweh going "I sheep baaaaah" near end of Day 1 after dropping BT because ED1 STRONG wasn't ED1 STRONG any more. That's literally zero effort and as a result she hasn't done any scum hunting yesterday aside from tunnel on BT over semantics.
And Shadoweh actually playing like crap is why I think she's top scummy among scummy sheep at the moment because Town is a mess right now and Shadoweh's contributing to it. That's severely un-Shadoweh-like, even Day 2 of I INVESTIGATED SHADOWEH had more Shadoweh effort than this game so far.
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Part of the reason my reaction to this is so BLEGH is that several people who don't like me have used SHEEP as their reason to vote me, iirc. (I don't mean me sheeping, I mean them sheeping someone else)
serela and shadoweh just sound like they're too lazy to play the damn game when they're typically better
I was all cool and motivated and stuff until my Schezo case fell on it's face with a "Oops he's likely town because ______, nevermind". After that the only person I've actually been confident in wanting dead is Rawr, who no one else cares about. Since rawr is ~*~totally nonexistent~*~ I can't make much of a case for hunting him, which makes it rather lazy looking.
TBH I'm considering whether I should throw my questionable Shadoweh clear out just since she's the most likely looking other wagon, but I guess people are actually considering Omba too now. ...mainly Shadoweh herself as the starter point. :T I just got up from my nap and I really don't feel like doing any rereads right now bleeeegh. But I guess I have to because -I'm- turning into the most likely other wagon then Dormio at this rate.
I'm tempted to ask a question that would be highly related for that but I doubt I'd get an answer and I'd feel bad for asking.
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but yeah reread time I guess etc
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Lamb Chops are delicious
ActionDan: (0)
Bardiche: (0)
BT: (0)
Dormio: Dr. Rawr, huhwhat, Omba, Shadoweh (4)
Dr. Rawr: Serela (1)
huhwhat: ActionDan (1)
NekoNekoRex: (0)
Omba: Dormio (1)
Schezo: (0)
Serela: Schezo (1)
Shadoweh: BT, Bardiche (2)
With 11 alive, it's 6 to lynch.
You have 15 (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20120723T0006&p0=236&msg=End+of+Day+Two) hours remaining.
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Lamb Chops are delicious
IIIIT'S PROFESSOR TOOTHY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGODqlSn7Go&feature=g-u-u)
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Does anyone feel like voting for Omba?
Also, what the hell is this professor Toothy.
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Also are you buddies with Omba?
rawr, omba and i are the town voting block
i will concede that point though, i generally expect people to out all their ed1 opinions in one comprehensive post since there's not much to cover, but twitterposting etc
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rawr, omba and i are the town voting block
:I
im pretty sure serela and dormio are scum together. Honestly if people want to kill serela more then dormio im all for that
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I would like to state that the ONLY given reason Rawr has for wanting Dormio lynched is that he thinks I'm town.
Seriously.
How can you people not see that Rawr needs to die. so. badly.
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obviously hasnt seen my voting post
reference (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg861486.html#msg861486)
also dormios AtE has no effect on me, i have immunity. Serelas overly defensiveness is pretty cool also
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Poor serela is digging herself so deep even I want to lynch her, and she's my idiot-buddy :(
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##Unvote
##Vote: Shadoweh
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obviously hasnt seen my voting post
reference (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg861486.html#msg861486)
also dormios AtE has no effect on me, i have immunity. Serelas overly defensiveness is pretty cool also
but rawr
that's the exact reason you give in that post
you put an up arrow and all dormio says in the post above yours is "I think Serela is town"
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i got cut by dormio
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Reasons Shadoweh is scum, in reverse chronological order edition
1.Inexplicable clear of rawr that makes no fucking sense (Rawr is being tryhard and honest? Oh please.)
2.SHADOWEH NEVER, NEVER MENTIONED DORMIO. And then out of NOWHERE, she votes Dormio. And her reasoning is apparently "Yay day 5 is early, wooooo". In other words she doesn't have a reason. Seriously. Go look for yourself, this is the most blatant, effortless bandwagon vote ever.
I reread the rest and didn't get much out of it. This isn't really a whole lot but I guess the Dormio vote is pretty horrible.
This being said, I'm afraid she's some kind of informed townie role.
Please come back and claim lover mason vigilantes or something.
This was to Bard D1, near the end of the day, before he claimed. She mentions "I wonder who got Kaoru Yamazaki" multiple times. Also another reason I have for this that I don't really want to talk about right now.
Rawr:adsfkjgklhsdfg;sdfg
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Okay so rawr's ACTUAL reason for voting dormio is "I'm sheeping HW"
There's another reason to vote him, guise. Totally. :C
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Also the informed townie thing by Shadoweh is also implied by her D2 start talkings and some other stuff.
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serela, why are you too scared to vote with dormio or vote his counterwagon instead of leaving down your votepark that nobody supports
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A.I never actually reread Omba *Cough*
B.There's still like over 24 hours before the day ends isn't there
C.I'm still hoping someone will vote rawr with me ;_;
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@about Shadoweh
I think it's because she watched the anime Serela :V
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I'm afraid there's not as much time as you'd like Serela :(
Days are only 2 long
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##unvote ##vote Shadoweh (Tied with dormio at L-3 iirc)
Come claim so that I can stop waffling around some of the hidden reasons I'm clearing you (Hint:They are explicitly related) and then go lynch Omba instead. I'll reread her by then I swear
Also seriously when do we get to learn what the magical cop results are, what the fuck
I mean if you actually got one it'd sure suck if you died tonight without TELLING US :T And if you didn't I don't understand why you won't just say "Oh I was roleblocked" or something! Guh. Geez.
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...I actually think Serela is town.
##Vote: Shadoweh
I'm sheeping bard I've been mifSHEZOfed about Shadoweh's antics all day, I think it's high time I put some clearance on that.
-cut by Serela-
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*Shadoweh is L-2
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...wait a second.
But.
And then he did.
And then the.
Oh. I guess my magical clear reason just got disproved a couple minutes ago without Shadoweh's work at all.
Excuse me while I go vegetate in the corner for a little bit. Also my Shadoweh vote suddenly became a good bit more serious.
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rex did you ever post real thoughts on dormio's post
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Will take my own lynch over Shadoweh's.
Just saying.
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Wait what. :C
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I would rather see myself lynched than Shadoweh.
That is all.
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HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG
##Unvote
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Oh god dammit don't tell me you're a lover mason with Shadoweh.
Rrrrrggghhhhhhh
Honestly that'd probably make Shadoweh's lynch 10x more tempting to some people anyway :T Judging from the big wagon on you.
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Wait but Shadoweh is voting you that wouldn't make any sense unless she's actually scum despite that anyway.
K still voting shadoweh
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dormio, is shadoweh's alignment confirmed to you?
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To me, yes.
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fullclaim as much as your pm lets you
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What HW said.
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rex did you ever post real thoughts on dormio's post
I didn't like Dormio's case =<
But it's not quite enough to make me want to vote him
I guess I'd hammer him if it came down to it? I'd approve of the lynch but I don't think I can see myself entirely on his wagon
Of course the thing he just said thing makes me want to reflexively HNNNNNNNNNNG off it entirely.
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I am Misaki Nakahara, Town Jailkeeper.
Every night, I can talk to someone in order to try to help them through their problems. This prevents them from being killed, but also distracts them from using any roles that they may or may not have.
Last night, working under the assumption that I am town's only protective role, I used my ability to protect Bardiche.
I am not allowed to mention my other ability. I will only say that it involves Shadoweh in some manner.
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So can we lynch Omba yet?
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initial reaction is to take the claim as intentionally invoked wifom. px was not confirmed to edible, and i don't have anybody confirmed to me and don't think i'm confirmed to anybody else. we also already have a confirmed-sane cop, albeit not a proven one
cut by scum roleblocker claim. cool, we're lynching this dude today
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Can you promise to lynch Omba tomorrow, then?
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Or can someone point out what they don't like about my case at the very least?
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i really, really don't buy "i'm a jailkeeper with the bonus that shadoweh is confirmed to me as town" when there's probably a cop in the set-up. seems like he claimed his roleblock to make the claim confirmable
only... i forgot we had a no-kill last night.
it seems very possible this could be an attempt to out the real cause, but it could be legit. hm
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neko, bard, thoughts since he targeted one of you?
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Claim could be legit since it makes sense considering the results of last night, and since I thought Dormio was town anyway. If he's a lover with Shadoweh he really doesn't want her to die for obvious reasons, whether or not she's confirmed to him.
##Unvote because I don't want the town jailkeeper to die.
##Vote Omba
Because suddenly, unless people decide they like the rawr wagon, Omba is the only person I don't have a town read on bar HW/BT, both of whom I don't really want nor can see getting lynched today.
Recommend reviewing the dan!clear stuff tomorrow, but TBH, even if he isn't cleared since he's been V/LA all of D2 I guess there isn't much that can be done in the realm of reading him. Sigh.
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also this seems like a stronger version of the pair we lynched day 1 - dormio confirms shadoweh as town, jails her every night. they need to use up two nightkills to get rid of the clears, and if they don't see it coming they waste a night entirely
cut: dormio said that shadoweh was confirmed to him when i asked
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And, of course, by "not much interest" you mean "I'm waiting for other people to vote him so I can jump on" right?
I interpreted Omba's quote as "No interest because they're both obvtown" Bad point.
"Hi I'm going to bandwagon everything."
Towniest position ever.
"I scumhunt and don't bother people I find null because there's nothing about them to really question on"
Also I don't think I've mentioned BT today and that doesn't make me scum =T There's just nothing interesting to say about him.
Yes, I said I don't care about this because Bard/PX being interesting is a plausible excuse to me.
I do dislike how easily you gave up the BT lynch, but whatever. I don't really care anymore.
"Hi I think a Lynch of a wagon I can at least say isn't bad is better then a No Lynch"
I can't really defend or justify the BT switch, though, since that would confuse me too <_>
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~*Night Phase*~
wtf does this even mean if dormio jail keeped bard
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It's entirely possible that there are two protective roles in the game. So even if I take Dormio's claim at facevalue, there's a distinct possibility scumDormio jailkept Bard and the nightkill targeted someone else who happened to be the one that got protected.
In any case, if there's someone with a protective role, he should not counter-claim. And we should lynch Dormio.
I'll get to Dormio's case post later.
--cut cut ry(
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Also if Dormio is the only Protective role keep Jailing Bard plz ^w^
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Omba:Yes, because there is TOTALLY a jailkeeper (aka basically a doc), AND a bulletproof, -AND- another protective role. TOTALLY.
Omba just wants to lynch the doc because he's scum and we should lynch him.
Shadoweh I expect you to have significant input on this situation due to you being tied with Dormio in some manner and also voting him.
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i'm not a protective role, but have reason to believe there is one in the game that isn't dormio
i also think scum going ahead and shooting the lover cop claim n1 would be weird when there clearly would've been a doc on that shit. nevermind that the balance of dormio's claim is pretty odd from what we know too
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or, well, should've been. it's reasonable to believe the doc would outwifom the scum, but i don't think scum would take the risk
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I interpreted Omba's quote as "No interest because they're both obvtown" Bad point.
Is this just because he says that he's reading you as town?
Nice buddying there, broskies.
Think about what that implies. Where did Omba ever give mention that he thought of you as town?
No, he just forgot completely about you after questioning you because he felt that he couldn't get a mislynch on you at that point in time.
Also think about the number of original cases that Omba has made.
"I scumhunt and don't bother people I find null because there's nothing about them to really question on"
Except he didn't find BT null beforehand.
Why did he become null. Omba hasn't even deigned to explain this at the very least.
Also I don't think I've mentioned BT today and that doesn't make me scum =T There's just nothing interesting to say about him.
You forget that BT is the person that Omba was gunning for during the entirety of D1.
So let's say that I kept pushing your lynch for no reason during the entirety of D1. If I stop mentioning you completely, everybody is meant to forget about what I did?
It doesn't work that way, man.
"Hi I think a Lynch of a wagon I can at least say isn't bad is better then a No Lynch"
Why the fuck are all you people going on about this. ???
I said that this is ignorable because of how PX and Bard were much more interesting.
I can't really defend or justify the BT switch, though, since that would confuse me too <_>
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i'm not a protective role, but have reason to believe there is one in the game that isn't dormio
im just going to draw attention to this so we can lynch the scum roleblocker
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Omba:Yes, because there is TOTALLY a jailkeeper (aka basically a doc), AND a bulletproof, -AND- another protective role. TOTALLY.
If Dormio is scum, that looks a lot less unlikely than you make it out to be.
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I can't really defend or justify the BT switch, though, since that would confuse me too <_>
:/
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Also, does anyone on my wagon feel like reiterating why they're voting me?
I get the feeling that most of them don't know themselves.
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you're scum
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:o
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Also I don't think I've mentioned BT today and that doesn't make me scum =T There's just nothing interesting to say about him.
Speaking of which, where the fuck is everybody?
Bard? Shadoweh? BT? ActionDan(to some extent I still really dislike your V/LA every weekend)?
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If Dormio is scum, that looks a lot less unlikely than you make it out to be.
Yeah.
But I wasn't even thinking Dormio was scum -before- he claimed.
If he got counterclaimed I'd happily lynch him but I really don't want to kill our protective role otherwise.
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Okay
Huhwhat, if I helped you flip Dormio and he turned town, would you be willing to take all the blame for this lynch and allow yourself to be quicklynched?
This is based on the assumption you have a reason to believe there's a doc
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what
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One thing about that I'd like to point out is I extremely doubt enough other people would vote HW to quicklynch him unless HW made some sort of specific claim that'd make him very likely scum if he was wrong.
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Huhwhat, if I helped you flip Dormio and he turned town, would you try to lynch me for lining up mislynches tomorrow?
yes
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(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt56/haeun0719/gif.gif)
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but go ahead and lynch dormio and try to lynch me tomorrow if i'm wrong, i'm pretty sure i'm not
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:T
Debating whether I want to trust in HW or not.
Also, HW. Current situation makes it likely Dormio is a suicide-if-Shadoweh-dies person. How would you feel about lynching Shadoweh?
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Well at least you put it better then I did
I am now willing to support a Dormio lynch.
But if Dormio flips Jailer then I know who I'm going after in the morning >=(
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Actually I guess if he's scum he probably wouldn't?
Or well.
I supposed it wouldn't be unreasonable if he was.
I'm not sure.
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How would you feel about lynching Shadoweh?
nope
only way shadoweh is scum is if she's dormio's buddy, meaning that lynching dormio is still a good lynch
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Well at least you put it better then I did
I am now willing to support a Dormio lynch.
But if Dormio flips Jailer then I know who I'm going after in the morning >=(
(assuming I live)
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NNR: Can you explain why you're willing to support my lynch?
No, really. This is some pretty big bullshit. :/
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i'd wait for the mod to be around to hammer dormio, though, since we can't talk after hammer
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Mod is probably around now because he's in SG time and that's similar to my time and it's Sunday.
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But, really, Omba. We should lynch him. :/
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HW's reason for voting you means that if you flip Doc then HW's soft counterclaim means he's scum.
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i also think scum going ahead and shooting the lover cop claim n1 would be weird when there clearly would've been a doc on that shit. nevermind that the balance of dormio's claim is pretty odd from what we know too
Christ the game is exploding I need to get this out.
The only thing I can see not weird about this is if mafia roleblock killed Bardiche which I guess is entirely possible since that would be optimal play to me.
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HW/Rawr/Shadoweh scum? Replace any of the three with Omba maybe? This is the only scumteam I'm starting to see here anymore, but I'm probably jumping ahead of things a lot. Will refrain from continuing on that topic until d3 because flips will likely negate the speculation.
I'm going to wait on Shadoweh before I evaluate this situation further. Her input is key.
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I don't give a shit about that because I think HW is horribly misguided town.
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Oh I forgot that Schezo existed too.
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aaaaaaaaaaaa
Personally, I'm seeing Omba/Pick out of DrRawr, ActionDan, BT, NNR(?).
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HW's reason for voting you means that if you flip Doc then HW's soft counterclaim means he's scum.
ok, you should lynch him and test this
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HW's reason for voting you means that if you flip Doc then HW's soft counterclaim means he's scum.
Also, Jailkeeper, not doc.
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Gracious Neko Rex. I just don't like how that looks as in setting up mislynches but ok.
I will lynch Dormio. Probably. Still want Serela though.
Dormio can you point out any softclaims?
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I don't do softclaims.
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im scummy
Okay
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And you're misrepping a lot of things, which is also scummy.
Can we lynch Omba yet? :/
HAS ANYONE ELSE ENROLLED IN "VOTE OMBA 101" YET?
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Dormio did crumb a connection to Shadoweh D1.
and yes, shadoweh can only be scum if Dormio is.
I have like 10 min.
also Bard can say if he was roleblocked.
Also any other protective roles SHOULD cc. because obv if Dormio scum = roleblocker and Bard cop gets a guaranteed investigation.
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Dormio did crumb a connection to Shadoweh D1.
I don't do softclaims.
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Also any other protective roles SHOULD cc.
you already have what i said. why do you want an actual counterclaim?
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Uhhhhhhhhh I really hope you're not claiming to be in WUV with me Dormio. I don't think that would make sense.
Also you roleblocked the cop? wtf were you thinking?
I have skimmed to see what the three pages were about. I have been without internet for six fucking hours so bear with me here.
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Someone needs to vig Neko Rex before lylo, that is all.
Why should the protective PR claim Dan? I don't think that's a smart idea.
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Uhhhhhhhhh I really hope you're not claiming to be in WUV with me Dormio. I don't think that would make sense.
／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼
Also you roleblocked the cop? wtf were you thinking?
That it would be a fantastic idea to not have Bard die.
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Personally, I'm seeing Omba/Pick out of DrRawr, ActionDan, BT, NNR(?).
I actually forgot Dan and BT exist.
One is V/LA forever so that's sort of understandable but.
Also any other protective roles SHOULD cc. because obv if Dormio scum = roleblocker and Bard cop gets a guaranteed investigation.
Yes please.
WE ARE NOT LYNCHING DORMIO WITHOUT A COUNTERCLAIM. Because that would make -no- sense what happened last night if there isn't a different protective role and Dormio is scum.
##Unvote ##Vote Omba
because I forgot if I did that already or not.
Shadoweh:Otherwise the cop gets likely nk'd which is even worse. Or he's scum and roleblocking scum is good. Win/win. I'm glaring at your dubious reaction to -protecting the claimed cop-.
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im mad
Okay
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you already have what i said. why do you want an actual counterclaim?
ok. read it again. um.
Actually possibly town needs all that protection because at least 6 claimed lovers exist?
2 mislynches + 2 lover kills = lylo.
perhaps Mod didn't want the game to break that way.
Also Shadoweh Dormio hinted.
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not even shadoweh is satisfied with dormio's claim and i'm p certain mod is here now. can we lynch this guy yet?
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Still think that Omba should die.
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I'd like a votecount first.
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id like a sandwich
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There's something I'm really curious about, Dan.
Are you really linked in some way to Shadoweh?
Anyway, Dan's latest post doesn't really change my opinion of him all that much.
OMGUS on Bard and recycling stuff said by others about Shadoweh being useless is his entire contribution to the game, after all.
As for BT, I find him suspicious for being rather defensive towards Dan and the selective reading thing, but this isn't enough for me to vote him over Dan.
Also, for the people hatin' on the wimmenz for doing nothing, what about DrRawr?
Speaking of which, where the hell is DrRawr?
Omba being all :gut: is a thing that I'll be rereading soon.
Dislike PX for rolefishing past miller and doing nothing else.
Okay will make another post to properly organize these thoughts.
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God Dormio's iso is so contaminated.
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I forgot I even said that.
Also, what do you mean by contaminated?
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I'd like a votecount first.
Notepad of Deaths
ActionDan: (0)
Bardiche: (0)
BT: (0)
Dormio: Dr. Rawr, huhwhat, Omba, Shadoweh (4) [L-2]
Dr. Rawr: (0)
huhwhat: (0)
NekoNekoRex: (0)
Omba: Dormio (1)
Schezo: ActionDan (1)
Serela: Schezo (1)
Shadoweh: BT, Bardiche (2)
With 11 alive, it's 6 to lynch.
You have 13 (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20120723T0006&p0=236&msg=End+of+Day+Two) hours remaining.
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Also Hw just saying a Full-claim wouldn't hurt considering you blatantly are crumbing to be Rawr's lover (one-way or not) so I mean if you fear for your life during the night you sorta-foreited that a while ago.
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Ugh. This isn't going anywhere other then a Dormio lynch, it's pretty obvious. Motivation to fight it quickly draining away.
Oh wait but yeah.
HW better either be scum or softclaiming A.protective role B.something that makes him informed there is one.
I guess that covers the counterclaim thing.
:T
Fine.
##unvote ##vote Dormio
Everyone can see nothing other then a dormio lynch is happening at this point. I don't want to lynch him but getting one on anyone else is nigh-impossible now, and there'll only be like an hour left after I wake up 'til deadline, so it's practically lynch time anyway.
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I forgot I even said that.
Also, what do you mean by contaminated?
a.k.a filled with things like diplomacy, birthday threads, some text-story adventure etc.
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a.k.a filled with things like diplomacy, birthday threads, some text-story adventure etc.
B)
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Also Hw just saying a Full-claim wouldn't hurt considering you blatantly are crumbing to be Rawr's lover (one-way or not) so I mean if you fear for your life during the night you sorta-foreited that a while ago.
yeah
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btw Shadoweh, not sure if it got through but I'm like pretty sure I don't love you
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;_;
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So yeah, fuck you all.
Nobody wants to read jack shit.
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To be fair, the canon would support Dormio's character being my BFF and being willing to commit suicide without being in my arms.
And it doesn't seem like he would randomly guess who I am.
It just doesn't fit so far with the way the power roles were.
Can we quicklynch Serela that would be great
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If somebody does actually feel like reading, tell me why Omba isn't scum.
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I won't be here in another 1/2 hour. prolly wont be here for Deadline.
Schezo would be the alternative lynch imo if we go that way.
D1 didn't like Domio, D2 is walls I didn't read so I don't know.
don't really think Serela is scum.
Shadoweh is there a reason you don't think Dormio is your lover? -cut- k
##Vote Schezo
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I would love to lynch Omba with you Dormio, if only they'd cooperate :c
I'll be asleep while waiting mostly anyway. I'll keep out hope another wagon pops up overnight. I'd really rather not lynch Dormio, seriously.
##Unvote
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Wtf Serela.
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Omba why'd you want to lynch BT all day D1 again?
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Schezo the guy with no votes and no reasons resembling critical though at all as to why he's scum is the alternative for today.
You're a champ Dan. You and your ISPing.
Shadoweh do you want Dormio or Serela lynched more? Your vote is saying Serela.
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Where IS BT, for that matter?
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not america
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Dormio. Whatever.
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Omba why'd you want to lynch BT all day D1 again?
Gut + the fact he pushed for the lynch of my most solid town read for godawful reasons.
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btw Shadoweh, not sure if it got through but I'm like pretty sure I don't love you
You're just looking for more games to stand me up in aren't you. >:<
Also you dope lovers can't do anything but crumb or they die.
Schezo: I DON'T KNOW YOU ASSHOLES CUT ME ELEVEN TIMES BEFORE I COULD POST HOW AM I SUPOSED TO READ LIKE THIS
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Shadoweh:
Her case on BT goes from being solid "Vote BT with me" (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg859472.html#msg859472) to "He has a legit defense but I'm still gutvoting him so back up" (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg859507.html#msg859507) to "I'm still fosing BT he's bad for fosing his wagoner" (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg860150.html#msg860150) all the way to "I know I was heavily fosing Dan but he's my oracle now and I'm just droppin' the BT case peace ya'll" (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg860520.html#msg860520)
Working under the assumption of a PX townflip, I'm glad you rolled scum this game Shadoweh because you aren't town pulling this stuff.
Neko I'm reading into the emotion of that post. Heavy sarcasm towards others is not a towntell if you get what I'm saying.
I"ll iso Neko and Dormio today if I can but I'll probably wait until day 2.
you went from this to "shadoweh is strange, can't raed her, can't get an alignment tell"
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Gut + the fact he pushed for the lynch of my most solid town read for godawful reasons.
100% disagree.
which post struck you as the most god-awful
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what are we waiting on with the dormio lynch again
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It'd make more sense if you'd said that in your post voting me ok.
I'm pretty sure the end of day 1 happened between then and now. She's pretty null so no I can't get an alignment read on her. Thank you for playing.
I was waiting on V/LA's posts but I'm ready now.
##Unvote:
##Vote: Dormio
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which post struck you as the most god-awful
If I have to pick one, it would be #225 (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg860103.html#msg860103).
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How much of the last few pages is you guys telling Neko Dormio is a girl? <_<
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##Unvote
##Vote: Dormio
Hw is using his mind powers on me.
I g2g now.
@Schezo. I raed your iso inbetween, before I just disliked your play.
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How much of the last few pages is you guys telling Neko Dormio is a girl? <_<
Stop trying to confuse my dick. He -is- a girl.
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HAMMER SHUT UP
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Is that a lynch?
Well then, fuck you guys. Seriously.
Also, lynch Omba next.
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Welcome to Misaki!
ActionDan: (0)
Bardiche: (0)
BT: (0)
Dormio: Dr. Rawr, huhwhat, Omba, Shadoweh, Schezo, ActionDan (6) HAMMER
Dr. Rawr: (0)
huhwhat: (0)
NekoNekoRex: (0)
Omba: Dormio (1)
Schezo: (0)
Serela: (0)
Shadoweh: BT, Bardiche (2)
With 11 alive, it's 6 to lynch.
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Winter set in as Misaki Nakahara took the train bound for Nishi Outani. In restless sleep, she dreamt of her mother smiling at her, while falling backward over Cape Ishihama into the deep blue sea, as she did many times. The voice of her stepfather, screaming that she was the one who caused her death, seemed to echo without end, deepening her already unbearable pain and misery.
Now, after being ousted by everyone she thought she cared for, there was nothing left to do but to follow in her mother?s footsteps. A bell seemed to toll in the distance as she walked up the cape like so many others alike, giving way to the sound of crashing waves as she neared the cape. Briefly, she contemplated the meaning of her life, and after coming to the conclusion that she had none, she fell head first into the waves, spreading her arms as she did so, a smile on her face.
Darkness had already set in before people discovered the ticket stubs on her hospital bed, as well as a cryptic suicide note which read ?The yam tasted really good?, which didn?t make any sense since she was not known to eat yam very much. Only scraps of her notebook were found in the thrash, detailing plans to burden other people with her presence. All in all, her existence seemed pretty ephemeral, her identity somewhat ambiguous. She did not stay very long in anyone's minds.
Dormio was Misaki Nakahara, Mafia Jailkeeper.
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It is now night two. You have 24 hours to send me night actions. (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20120723T1245&p0=236&msg=End+of+Night+Two)
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Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty
Everyone was guilty.
In the middle of the night, Hitomi Kashiwa called Akira for what must have been the hundredth time, to no avail. Slowly it dawned on her that he had to be cheating on her, like others have done back in high school. With shaking hands, she set her handphone down? and gathered her anti-depressants and a glass of water. One by one, for what seemed forever, she ingested the pills, taking a sip of water each time, until time seemed to flow no longer, her happier memories coalescing into an eternal bliss that she had yearned for so long?.
Bardiche was Hitomi Kashiwa, Town Neighbour Cop.. Her abilities were as follows:
- Sanity Check ? You are sane, grounded in fact and reality, in complete control of your mental faculties. In fact, you are the 1% who aren?t tricked by the NHK, making you saner than most! Your results can be taken at face value.
- Investigation ? Once a night you may investigate a person of your choice (other than yourself). That person?s alignment (guilty, not guilty) will the revealed to you, and can be taken at face value since you are sane!
- Neighbours ? You are neighbours with X (Akira Jougasaki), and can converse with him during the night here. You know nothing of his alignment or his role, and though he seems quite decent as a friend, you don?t really care much for him.
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When Akira busted her door open the next morning, all he saw was his love prone on the carpet floor, frothing at the mouth with dead eyes. His students later that day were greeted by the sight of his body, hanging from a noose in the classroom.
NekoNekoRex was Akira Jougasaki, Lovestruck Townie Neighbour Miller. His abilities were as follows.
- Bad Impression ? While you are a respectable man in most ways, your brash manner of giving advice and your busy schedule tend to give people a bad impression. You will turn up guilty when investigated by a cop.
- Infatuation ? You are a one-sided lover to Hitomi (X). If she dies, you have no qualms about following her into death immediately, though the converse may not be true. You may not reveal this to anyone at any point in the game, directly or indirectly, until LyLO
- Neighbours ? You are neighbors with X (Hitomi), and can converse with her during the night here . You know nothing of her alignment or role, sadly, but you hope for the best.
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It is now Day 3. You have 48 hours remaining. (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20120725T12&p0=236&msg=End+of+Day+Three)
With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
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##Vote: ActionDan
Sheeping Dormio.
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##Vote: Action Dan
Sheeping Jesus.
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Let's do it.
##Vote: Action Dan
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Actual case:
Dormio poked at Dan for most of D1 when there were minimal odds of the wagon taking off, aka weak distancing. Dan barely responded to this poking at all and didn't even bat an eye at the constant token questioning which should have looked scummy.
Also, Dan randomly sheeping me on the Dormio hammer after starting the day off with a gut vote is unrealistic and looks like a last ditch attempt to gain cred.
Willing to lynch Serela too, he pretty obviously wanted to avoid voting with Dormio until it was obviously he absolutely had to do so to look realistic.
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(gut vote on me)
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copypaste
Hmm, y'know, I've never made a post at night before! But the day just ended, and we got a scum flip... I can't resist~<3 So this might be worded a little weird time-wise since this'll be made way in advance.
Lesse here! Shadoweh claimed having no idea WTF Dormoe was talking about. She didn't vote 'til pretty late in the wagon, and said NOTHING about him when she voted him... she had a small blurb on him D1... and the reason my clear on her ended up being totally not something that was real in reality so it's out the window. Shadoweh definitely looks like a possibility for bussing scum.
HW is now deffo town for obvious reasons. (I won't be surprised if he dies during the night at all, if he does it'll be even more obvious reasons, PLUS WE'D GET A BARD COP RESULT YAYAY BARD WHAT DID YOU GET :D)
Lessee. Other people who are town. Bard and Neko, of course. Schezo probably, despite how much I have to resist voting him half the time he posts. Those are carryover clears from yesterday.
Dan was a clear d2 start but I don't really remember why (for how he acted at d1 end?) and haven't gotten around to reread him yet. He was V/LA for basically all of D2 so there's nothing to get out of it for him. Sigh. Hopefully it's an awful nice clear he has, whenever I go back to check it :T
Omba was Dormoe's target all day, dunno what that means about Omba. Could certainly see them both being scum together. But there's bigger fish to fry.
Like ~*~rawr~*~. Rawr still needs to TOTALLY die. Since he's possibly neighbor waifus with HW and him and HW sheep eachother like nuts apparently I dunno, maybe I'd get off him a little bit, but... :T Gah.
If HW dies when rawr is lynched I'd get off him entirely due to HW being town, but I guess we can't really know that for sure since it's not claimable. If HW dies and flips, the rolename may be highly useful as to rawr's alignment, which would be awesome (or flip rawr outright, in which case dawww he's town I was wrong, but thank goodness it's over with)
That's everyone... 'cept for BT. I dunno what to do with BT. He was sort of low-existence D2. He probably deserves getting reread at some point.
I'm saving actual reread time for after the night results though, and for after seeing everyone else's reaction. All this is being typed up at like 1:30am shortly after D2's lynch resulted. So, yeah! I'll see you all at D3 start, yeps :3 Heheh, this should go alright, I think~
Later:More on Shadoweh; I think the "Why would you roleblock the cop >.>;" comment from her was really weird (Obviously you block him because the scum would block and/or NK him, it's sort of obvious) and feels like it was forced. The one thing holding me back is Dormio softclaimed that killing Shadoweh would kill him, and it'd be sort of weird to do that if they were both scum (Shadoweh was a big wagon still at that point, if she actually died then Dormio not dying would make him look like a big fat liar. The flipside is they probably figured whoever protected their actual target would counterclaim his Jailkeeper thing, so they'd be fine. Seriously expecting HW death overnight; only other considerable NK is Bard since he'd get a result, but they'd have to gambit HW doesn't target him, while docs generally can't selftarget, and HW obv. is incredibly likely a doc given situation)
Now:WHATS GOING ON WHY ARE WE ALL VOTING ACTIONDAN I'M CONFUSED
Wait is Dormio the guy who said "Okay ActionDan is town because _____"?
Seriously what's going on
Cut by HW. Oh. That still doesn't explain the two sheep votes suddenly.
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I think Shadoweh could still be scum, for whatever that's worth.
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Are you sure that makes Serela scum though? I mean, it's Serela.
Speaking of Serela. Uuuuuuuh so you just saw the scum that claimed to have blocked Bard die and thought huh what was going to die? That post looks delicious. I'm gonna dig in.
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That's why I'm voting Dan.
You need real opinions btw.
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Before I start.
Serela is there a reason why Dr Rawr is worse than Dan when they are in essence the same: lurky lurkers?
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Maybe after Dan posts. I just finished some cut up hot dogs with broccoli, cauliflour, garlic, a tiny bit of onion and some green thing my landlord left in my fridge (parsley I think?) fried in oil that was just used to fry some fish, dashing in curry powder, roasted red pepper spice and soy sauce, then fried some rice in the leftover oil.
This is the best post I have ever made.
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Serela is there a reason why Dr Rawr is worse than Dan when they are in essence the same: lurky lurkers?
Dan is V/LA which gives him an excuse, which... I don't know what to do with that.
I also don't know what to do with the three sudden votes on ActionDan.
The people who aren't HW should explain why they're voting him.
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Uuuuuuuh so you just saw the scum that claimed to have blocked Bard die and thought huh what was going to die?
HW clearly claimed knowledge of a protective role that is not jailkeeper dormio.
This makes it highly likely that HW is either the protective role, or his buddy is; but in any case, their NK was also most likely stopped n1, after a flipped bulletproof, which highly implies SOME kind of protective role around, which means it would be HIGHLY likely Bard would be docced again. After the end of d2 HW became essentially town-cleared and likely a protective role. Hence, HW seemed incredibly likely to die.
Or A.Scum cant nk when a lover suicides/B.it's a crazy Gambit, they no-killed N1, HW is scum. But that'd be silly.
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again
or for the first time, whatever
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So I pretty much haven't read any of D3 yet. Except for lots of "##Vote ActionDan". Uh, last time I checked I didn't think he was scum.
##Vote Serela
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Shadoweh you don't vote Dan and wait for him to respond before you tell him why.
That is not how mafia works goddammit
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That is how Shadoweh rolls. If you think Rawr might be a protective role why do you want to kill him?
I have reasoning that I don't care to divulge until Dan shows up(maybe). I think you should reread yesterday and see if you see what people see.
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I'll stop wanting to kill rawr if he claims a protective role and doesn't get counterclaimed. You don't do it the other way around, that's as ass backwards as saying I shouldn't lynch anyone because JUST MAYBE they're a power role.
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EVERYONE IS A POWER ROLE SERELA THERE ARE NO SCUM FOR YOU TO VOTE
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there is absolutely no reason for rawr to roleclaim right now regardless of whether he's protective or not
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why am i full claiming for scum serela?
##vote: serela
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What
Why the hell does everyone start saying I'm asking rawr to claim
I NEVER SAID THAT ;_; I was just responding to Shadoweh's assbackwards logic
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I'll stop wanting to kill rawr if he claims a protective role and doesn't get counterclaimed
doesnt change that youre scum
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Yeah, I said that. I never said you should actually claim. That line would apply to anyone in the game. I'm not suggesting we massclaim either. :T I wouldn't have said anything like that at all if Shadoweh hadn't talked about it.
Rawr, your case is incredibly outdated. It consists of "Serela's end of D1 looks like he was just trying to vote anyone".
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I want you dead because you're not doing ANYTHING. As shown by your vote on me just now when the only reason you made was a tiny blurb made at the start of D2. There's been a lot of game since then. Your other vote D2 was "I'm sheeping HW". Your D1 wasn't much better if at all. You're coasting on air.
Does anyone agree with me that rawr needs to die yet? :T
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if you were paying attention you would notice that i explicitly said that i'm not a protective role
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...you did? Okay, I missed that, then. Whatever. It doesn't matter too much either way. None of my scumhunting relied on you being one. It doesn't even mean you're not a protective role because it's realistic to say that to misguide scum, but I don't care either way.
At this point I'm waiting on Dan to post in order to see Shadoweh's reasons afterwords, along with the reactions to recent events from everyone other then HW. (This includes Schezo with his as of yet unexplained Dan vote.) I say everyone else because Rawr is tunnelling on me at this point (And needs to die)
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also ##Vote: Rawr
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Serela, my memory might be screwed up and all, so... remind me why you're not currently voting or at the least voicing suspicion of me?
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(Not counting that one sentence in your wall post)
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Also Shadoweh, same goes to you. I still have no idea why you switched off me yesterday. Might be a good time to explain that.
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Omba:Voting you yesterday was partially because after Dormio's claiming stuff, Shadoweh stopped existing as a possible lynch, so you were the remainder, and I thought with Dormio claiming protect on Bard people would be, like... getting off him.
It's good they didn't since I was horribly wrong and he was scum, but.
Besides Rawr has been my most preferred target for quite awhile. And Shadoweh was my next preferred target at the end of D2, remember? Until suddenly her lynch became impossible to get. Soon followed by guaranteed Dormio lynch.
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I suppose Dormio implying he'd suicide if Shadoweh flipped DOESN'T make it all that unlikely Shadoweh is scum too, because it would be so that people who DID believe his claim wouldn't just hop on Shadoweh and lynch his scumbuddy (Which would instantly incriminate him. Same for if she's town and he lived somehow tbh). Plus all the other stuff I said.
tl;dr Shadoweh and Rawr are my preferred lynches at least until this Dan stuff gets sorted out. The magical reasons Shadoweh is concealing could change things both for my read of her and of Dan I imagine. :T
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Welcome to Your Gut
ActionDan: huhwhat, Shadoweh, Schezo (3) L-2
BT: (0)
Dr. Rawr: Serela (1)
huhwhat: (0)
Omba: (0)
Schezo: (0)
Serela: Omba, Dr. Rawr (2) L-3
Shadoweh: (0)
Not voting: BT, ActionDan
With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch
You have 46 hours remaining (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20120725T12&p0=236&msg=End+of+Day+Three)
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I'm babbling on and on because it's 2am and I'm sleep deprived so I'll try to go to sleep now instead
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Also BT come back and talk again, it's been so long :c
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Also Shadoweh, same goes to you. I still have no idea why you switched off me yesterday. Might be a good time to explain that.
Because Dormio was scum. p. good reason don't you think?
Serela I decided you're town and ilu now come join the townie voting block. We can make room for you by getting rid of Schezo, I'd tell my scumbuddies to nightkill him but we all know he's the godfather
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Because Dormio was scum. p. good reason don't you think?
Sure. So, how about now that Dormio is dead?
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Serela. As far as I can tell your case on Rawr is that she's:
Not a power role
omgus
and lurk.
Can you go over this again so I can see why she needs to die so bad?
The Dan vote is get on the lynch lurkers part which is dandy. I have townreads on huh what and Omba so it's a bit of POE.
This is also taking into account when he does show up he has some off the wall answers like a doc needed to hard cc Dormio for no reason, or I should just be the lynch for the day for no given reason.
I would probably be tempted to get Shadoweh over Serela at this point however.
With Dormio's scumflip this post (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg862132.html#msg862132) is the strangest thing.
This is scum I believe due to her day 2 being:
"Let's quicklynch Serela (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg862132.html#msg862132)!"
>Votes Dormio even after expressing thoughts she bought his fakeclaiming.
I can see that as distancing.
In fact my Dan vote is weaker compared to all of this and half of it was reaction anyway. WHOO~
##Unvote:
##Vote: Shadoweh
Cut by claiming scum, good shit.
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This post (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg862132.html#msg862132)should be linked where Shadoweh bought his claim part but ok.
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Not a power role
What rawr's role is or is not isn't and has never been part of my case on him asdhfasdghagsd
As for the rest, I'm going to bed RIGHT NOW so I'll get to that in the morning. It is majorily just that rawr is nonexistant as fuck, mostly posts fluffy useless nothing when he does post, and is voting me off a piddly reason he made at the start of d2. And that his other vote he made on Dormio d2 was "Sheeping HW".
...oh wait it was on Dormio.
:T
I am extremely unhappy with rawr's play this game if he really is town. (I still think he isn't but that makes me less 100% KILL RAWR certain. On the upside no one wants to lynch him anyway so it's more likely that, like, Shadoweh would die today. ATM I am happy with that. Still highly interested in seeing what she's got coming up after Dan posts though before I continue on with that.)
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I would probably be tempted to get Shadoweh over Serela at this point however.
With Dormio's scumflip this post (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg862132.html#msg862132) is the strangest thing.
This is scum I believe due to her day 2 being:
"Let's quicklynch Serela (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg862132.html#msg862132)!"
>Votes Dormio even after expressing thoughts she bought his fakeclaiming.
Uhhhhhhhhh I really hope you're not claiming to be in WUV with me Dormio. I don't think that would make sense.
I never 'bought his fakeclaim'. I stated outright that it wouldn't make sense for him to be in love with me. I said that the character he claimed made too much sense to be in love with mine to be random. I'm Tatsuhiro Satou. In the anime Dormio's character nearly commits suicide when I won't sign her rabu rabu contact. [omg spoilers]. But I'm quite sure that no one in the town loves me. I find it offensive that you would twist it like that. Also, I was voting Dormio for the entire day. I find it offensive you would imply I decided to come back just to counter my buddy's lover claim.
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I am extremely unhappy with rawr's play this game if he really is town. (I still think he isn't but that makes me less 100% KILL RAWR certain.
whats wrong with getting scum lynched?
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I kind of lost interest yesterday, sorry. I thought a good night of 1-2 (5??) posts would help me solidify. Well, it did, but you dopes hammered before I could. :<
##Vote Serela
#700 onwards. No joke. If you are town this game it will take a long time until I fathom it.
Shadoweh should claim. If there's any reason to believe she's not buddies with Dormio and their gambit blew up in their faces it should be known now.
I'm not particularly seeing the Dan wagon.
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Rabu Rabu
ActionDan: huhwhat, Shadoweh (2) L-3
BT: (0)
Dr. Rawr: Serela (1)
huhwhat: (0)
Omba: (0)
Schezo: (0)
Serela: Omba, Dr. Rawr, BT (3) L-2
Shadoweh: Schezo (1)
Not voting: ActionDan
With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch
You have 38 hours remaining (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20120725T12&p0=236&msg=End+of+Day+Three)
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There's a depressing lack of posts and votes. So go vote Serela. Or just tell me you want to vote him, if you'd rather not vote right now since he's at L-2 and all.
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Seriously, Serela needs to die.
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I got a full day of work ahead till tonight but here I am, indulging you guys.
Ok, so first I have a hard time believing Serela as scum just from the style of posts, because a) she's trying, b) I don't detect any guilty-conscience. 2nd, I'm not scum, and while I get why HW is targeting me, he's got the wrong motivations throughout for my actions (or lack of them as the case may be). I'll explain more tonight.
As for Shadoweh, I'm not sure why she thinks I'm scum, but it could possibly be because she thinks I claimed something and/or am something I'm not.
As for scumpects, I'll need to review, no one makes a lot of sense with Dormio from relational tells. Was thinking Schezo. Maybe Dormio Wifomed and took a gamble to try to make Shadoweh look better.
HW. You must realize there is a very very serious problem with Bard dying and you claiming that there is a protective role in the game. First. If there is, scum would assume Bard would be protected from it. They targetted Bard anyway. Either they had a strongman or disarmed the protective role (who is clearly Rawr if anyone). Question. Did you protect Bard?
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Dan. Serela is scum. His posts are completely warped, he's pursuing Rawr over doing nothing (while making assumptions with townpair!hw+rawr in mind), he was quick to instaclear Dormio on several (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg861968.html#msg861968) occasions (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg862056.html#msg862056), his D1 was passive-palooza. Oh and there's the ridiculous not lynching Dormio without a counterclaim (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg862108.html#msg862108) thing. When HW had already done as much, without "claiming". Obviously not enough.
Lyyynnnch please.
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(while making assumptions with townpair!hw+rawr in mind)
WHY.
THE FUCKING HELL.
DOES EVERYONE KEEP ASSUMING I'M DOING THIS GOD.
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As least BT -actually makes a case on me-, unlike EVERYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO LYNCH ME iirc (Omba I'm sorry if you actually made a case anytime recently, I really don't remember one!)
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Get off my back get off my back get off my back aaaaaaa my claim is boring there's no reason I shouldn't do it and I'm vaguely terrified I'm going to get lynched for it whenever I make it anyway.
I'M VANILLA TOWN. I have no neighbors! I have no one-way love who I'll suicide for if they die! I have no special abilities! I'm just Kazuko Nakahara, Misaki's old-fashioned church-going aunt who worries about her. I got a message that I was very sad when she died, so during the night I was kind of afraid I had some hidden "suicide-if-misaki-dies" thing but then I'm alive so WHATEVER.
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HW and Rawr being neighbors doesn't mean I think they're both town just because I think HW is and that's a stupid assumption because they aren't masons so that makes no sense.
Besides, almost everyone has a neighbor apparently, so it's completely not shocking at all that a scum would be a neighbor with a townie.
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Dan can you rolefish a little bit harder?
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I'm assuming you're doing this because then all your NK speculation among other things don't make sense. Who do you think is the protective role HW mentioned? How does Rawr fit in? You can't wait on Rawr's claim before reconsidering your vote while speculating like this at the same time.
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By the way, a tip: if everyone seems to assume you're doing _____ there's usually a good reason for it.
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I thought it was HW, BT. I hadn't realized he had explicited claimed not being it at any point, as I said today when he told me that. I still think it could be him. He never explicitly claimed he was neighbors with rawr either, although it's easily assumable by now. Sure it could be rawr but it could be anyone else too. I wouldn't know. I'm not MAGIC.
I'm not waiting on rawr's claim either! Why are you saying this. I said I don't want to lynch the fucking protective role, which is obvious as hell why. It doesn't matter WHO claims it. (For the second goddamn time if someone says I'm asking the protective role to claim here I will hurt you) Stop twisting my words.
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The good reason for it is that they want me dead and at least some of them are probably scum because I'm town and everyone knows they can probably get away with trying to lynch Serela.
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You voted Dormio the entire day yet wanted Serela lynched Shadoweh. Well done.
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whats wrong with getting scum lynched?
You can vote scum and still be playing terribly. The issue isn't who you voted. It's everything else.
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scum can lynch scum too but it doesn't make them not scum, either
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In case it isn't clear, Shadoweh is still scum.
I'll stop wanting to kill rawr if he claims a protective role and doesn't get counterclaimed
=="I might reconsider once he claims". That is exactly what I was saying. You went "aaa stop twisting my words" pretty fast.
Okay Serelacut. What makes Rawr's donuthin' scum?
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Yeah the whole bit about Rawrclaim isn't clear yet, I realized.
Basically, you're taking the "scum until irrefutable proof" route but at the same time making role-related assumptions about HW-Rawr (or at least it seemed like it, whatever). I'm not claiming you're fishing for his claim or anything, as that would truly be twisting your words.
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Oh my god it really is swordgirls all over again and we have a Kaori right there and on D3 no one will believe me when I say he's scum.
He makes votes. They have no reasoning on them, at all. The last time he gave a reason for a vote was at the very start of D2 where it was "Serela looked like she was trying to jump on all the wagons at the end of d1" or something along those lines (Unless you also count "sheeping huhwhat as a reason"). All his posts, have literally no content. Rawr has been playing better then this for a long time, so it's not just a matter of "Oh, it's just rawr." Even if it was this is by far so bad that it needs to be killed with fire.
It is next to impossible to come up with any more reasons then this because he hasn't done anything. That is the reason in itself why he needs to die. This was the reason Kaori needed to die, except Kaori's posts actually *GASP* HAD SLIGHTLY MORE IN THEM, like promises to post in a bit with more and etc that were always broken, but it's still the same thing; both of them coasting by doing next to nothing, at ALL.
Cut:Well yeah. He's scum unless something clears him as town, basically. The stuff I'm accusing him of, he's done so long in this game, that it doesn't even matter if he started to shape up all of a sudden. Saying he's okay after that would be like telling a murderer that since they said they're sorry and planted some flowers, they're fine now and don't need to get arrested or whatever. He's already shown he's scum.
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BT, I'll look again at Serela more in depth later. Everything I kjnow about mafia is telling me she isn't scum.
Also I'm going to claim now just cuz I wonder what Shadoweh is up to.
Hideto Nomura, Vanilla Town
The pressure of my parents wanting me to go to med-school and exams have made the dangerous medical equipment more apealing (the insinuation is that I'm going to commit suicide with them).
I was tempted to claim vengeful, but decided to screw it. I am highly amused I joke-claimed something that could be a viable role in this set-up.
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@Schezo, yo bud, I was gonna go further and suggest a mass-claim either today or tomorrow considering like, the HW-Rawr lover pair that should be ripe for the picking tonight that soft-claimed a protective role and yet wasn't killed over Bard-Neko.
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Why did you claim again?
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I guess what I find weird about your Rawrpush Serela is that, yeah, lurkers are bad, coasting is scum, but at this point there are bigger scum to lynch. It's as you say - you barely have anything on him because he isn't doing anything. Why don't you have anything else on someone else who has been doing something?
You were voting Omba yesterday. You're saying stuff about Shadoweh today. Are they scum? Trying to push the lurker off a cliff until you're forced to consider other wagons at the end of the day is just one of the things I find bad about you.
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Dan can you rolefish a little bit harder?
Why did you claim again?
scum kill Bard despite Hw-Rawr pair claiming that there is a protective role ==> scum don't give a shit. Why are you (and Hw) complaining about :rolefish:
I claimed for shadoweh's sake, so she can get unhinged sooner, and also because I didn't think it'd do any harm. Also Vanilla townie's are coming out of the closet, it's a revolution.
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BT:...what?
Have you not read any of the stuff I've said about why I also want to lynch Shadoweh today? I did say she and rawr were my top suspects.
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And yet your vote is on Rawr and what I seem to remember about you is "kill rawr with fire nao".
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...yes my vote is on rawr.
Because I want rawr dead more, of course. o_o
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Yep. All day erryday you're on about our dear lurker while others are on the back-burner. The desire and insistence to lynch the lurker above all else at this point is plain unnatural. Also obligatory Rawr Is An Easy Target.
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Shadoweh is going to receive scrutiny and possibly votes without me having to push her as scum very hard. I'm more concerned about getting rawr's lynch, because I'm the only one who currently has any interest in it, and if rawr is scum that's... really bad. I can switch to a different wagon when it's consolidation time, right now there's tons of time left in the day and I'm trying to convince people that rawr is scum, as utterly hopeless of a venture as that seems to be.
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I claimed for shadoweh's sake, so she can get unhinged sooner, and also because I didn't think it'd do any harm.
Elaboration on this. Especially the last part seeing as it's universally wrong.
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Alternatively, I can give up on trying to show people that rawr is scum and let scum!rawr proceed to eventually win the game because no one else cares about him being horrible.
Which would suck.
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What the rush to lynch Rawr, then? Unless you're minutes from your untimely NK-ish death and Rawr is like scum obvtown (which he isn't, contrary to popular belief), I don't see why you're not going for the vote that will be more productive to town.
cut-- same response
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BT what is wrong with him pushing his case? Unless you can prove Rawr is townie mc town, I don't see what is. The case is decent.
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How is it more productive for town, BT? Town knows I also want to lynch Shadoweh. Other townies are looking at Shadoweh. If Shadoweh's stuff about Dan is terrible and still makes her look like scum I'm still going to make a post about how it's horrible.
You're twisting my actions to make it look like I'm purposefully avoiding doing some big helpful thing. It wouldn't change anything if I voted Shadoweh instead, except make it even less likely that anyone will give a rat's ass about rawr. How big Shadoweh's wagon is doesn't really matter until deadline is, like, actually anytime soon. I don't see why you care so much that I'm not voting her.
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I think it's better for everybody I out this.
I don't know shit about rawr's role and I'm not neighbors with him or anything, I just wanted scum to NK him and save us some trouble. I still don't think he's scum.
I don't know shit about a protective role either, I'm just pretty damn certain I know who is one and was really confident Dormio was scum because of this.
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At least this makes things simpler.
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This is actually good, because many of the complaints against my rawr stuff were based around him being neighbors with HW and by association likely a protective role. Maybe when Dan comes back he'll even think Rawr's worth voting now that an illusory possibility of him being a protective role is mostly gone! I can hope...! :ohdear:
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huh and here i thought huhwhat knew i was lovers with him for some reason.(i still have no idea who im lovers with)
also serela im pretty sure those were only your complaints
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Well mystery solved.
##Vote: Rawr
Scum shot Bard because they knew Hw was full of BS because Rawr is scum.
While this is possibly the easiest case ever, it's works ala the razor.
actual thought from my brain comes later.
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Dan said he thought you were likely the role, which implies he wouldn't vote you. Part of BT's complaints against me were related to them.
And... oh look a cut.
Did ActionDan just come up with a more convincing case on rawr in a couple of minutes then I have for the entire game? At the least I hope that in combination with what I said can convince anyone. I don't care why anyone votes rawr at this point as long as I get his lynch, 'cause he's totes scum.
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I'm waiting for later because right now "the razor" sounds like a buzzword you don't know how to use.
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Scum shot Bard because they knew Hw was full of BS because Rawr is scum.
They still wouldn't know I was lying about being protective, or whether or not a real protective role was out there.
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uuhhhhhh im pretty sure scum shot bard because they just lost there roleblocker?
dormio said he jailed bard d1
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Razor Wrists?
ActionDan: huhwhat, Shadoweh (2) [L-3]
BT: (0)
Dr. Rawr: Serela, ActionDan (2) [L-3]
huhwhat: (0)
Omba: (0)
Schezo: (0)
Serela: Omba, Dr. Rawr, BT (3) [L-2]
Shadoweh: Schezo (1)
With 8 alive, it's 5 to lynch.
You have 34 (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20120725T12&p0=236&msg=End+of+Day+Three) hours remaining.
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Actually I guess Dan's case doesn't really hold up because HW never said it was rawr, plus since they didn't have a kill n1 they probably DID get stopped by something.
rawr:The point would be there being a protective role that would almost surely go for Bard so he could get a result due to dead roleblocker, but scum didn't care and just killed Bard anyway.
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no still not understanding ???
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Bad time for Serela's posts to start looking reasonable again. *grumble*
Schezo my point was that the case seemed easy and a way to cruise 'till deadline and actually contribute to the wagons then but ehhhh
##Unvote
##Vote Shadoweh
Can we just have this lynch please
I guess I'll try reading some more. I don't like reading on D3. D3 is procrastination day.
Comment: yes what I said abut Serela makes him scummy but now I just want to !waffle again it's great
HW can you show me the winning argument of scumDan like you did with Dormio, that was great ;-;
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"The point would be there being a protective role that would almost surely go for Bard so he could get a result due to dead roleblocker, but scum didn't care and just killed Bard anyway."
how does this lead me to scum? no matter how many times i read it i dont understand :(
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Oh no, that part isn't supposed to imply you're scum.
You still are though, that's just not why :V
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now im more confused ???
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Rawr: Ignore and post your reads on everyone living please. The best way to prove you're not scum is to just tell us how you feel.
I think Serela is pretty obvtown. He wrote about huh what dying. Huh what is alive. For now I'm willing to believe he's trying really hard.
Writing up Dan stuff now
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Serela hasn't done anything he couldn't have done as scum.
Dan has the scummiest to Dormio though if you read them together (weak distancing on Dan that he ignores, sheep hammer on Dormio with disconnect).
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*scummiest connection
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Dan, this is the ~*~Posts Of Your Lives!~*~
also Bard can say if he was roleblocked.
Also any other protective roles SHOULD cc. because obv if Dormio scum = roleblocker and Bard cop gets a guaranteed investigation.
Also Hw just saying a Full-claim wouldn't hurt considering you blatantly are crumbing to be Rawr's lover (one-way or not) so I mean if you fear for your life during the night you sorta-foreited that a while ago.
As for Shadoweh, I'm not sure why she thinks I'm scum, but it could possibly be because she thinks I claimed something and/or am something I'm not.
HW. You must realize there is a very very serious problem with Bard dying and you claiming that there is a protective role in the game. First. If there is, scum would assume Bard would be protected from it. They targetted Bard anyway. Either they had a strongman or disarmed the protective role (who is clearly Rawr if anyone). Question. Did you protect Bard?
Dan you have spent more time rolefishing then you have finding mafia. Your play yesterday and today can be summed up in CLAIMS CLAIMS CLAIMS and seems like you were hunting the protector. And now you've gone straight from 'Rawr is obviously the doctor' to 'VOTE RAWR HE IS THE SCUMS' for reasoning that is pretty ??? Rawr isn't neighbours with huh what and has had no secret communications with him therefore he knows huh what is lying because que?
..I'm actually not sure about this anymore after reading around that post you quoted. I don't think Dormio would be questioning you about connections to me if he already knew connections. I completely missed the line about princess being in another castle before so the 'getting through to me' makes sense now. Shadoweh needs to put more thought into this.
huh what: You look at that Serela wagon and tell me it doesn't smell like scumbags lynching Serela for being a Serela. He is not being cute. He is not hiding in the corner waiting for people's votes to go away. He's actually pushing for his lynch. He is not scum. This level of reasoning is possible for Shadoweh.
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I actually don't think Shadoweh is scum anymore :c
;_;
I have no idea where I stand on Dan, BT is ???? but a possibility, I still never reread Omba (:V), and Rawr needs to die :D
I guess at this point I need to do rereads over a bunch of people, because I just gave three unsure reads and Rawr is my only scumread. :T
Actually, I'd reluctantly say I don't really have a lot of interest in lynching Omba, partially due to Dormio trying to lynch her d2, which happened -before- he turned into a big wagon. But not just because of that.
TBH the end of D1 is the only thing really keeping me from voting Schezo. I'm trying to keep passing it off as a town clear here. No one else seems to have interest in lynching Schezo which helps me with continuing to not want to pursue him at all, at least.
Some point soon I'll get around to rereads on BT/Dan.
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..I'm actually not sure about this anymore after reading around that post you quoted. I don't think Dormio would be questioning you about connections to me if he already knew connections. I completely missed the line about princess being in another castle before so the 'getting through to me' makes sense now. Shadoweh needs to put more thought into this.
How is this something that scum can't fake if they have half a brain?
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Scum aren't thinking to fake connections to each other in the early game, they're looking for information on people who aren't them. They don't get curious about their own buddies, they already know them. Dormio was also trying to be serious about his DAN hate.
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Yes but scum should be able to realize this and go out of their way to fake it. Am I like the only person who tries to do that?
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me going 'shadoweh your lover is not me' is both null and irrelevant. It's easy enough to say as scum.
Any real case against me boils down to 'Dormio connections' + 'role fishing' which I will answer in turn. later when I eat. I will say now that I do not consider the "role fishing" part to be any value above part of a scum stump speech.
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This level of reasoning is possible to get Shadoweh lynched.
There we go.
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huh what there is a reason that no one ever thinks you're scum for being scummy. >_> In all seriousness it doesn't seem like the kind of thing scum think about while doing that early morning panic to get into the game.
It's not the part where you say you don't love me (</3) It's the part where Dormio starts investigating it. Role fishing could also just be you being yourself. I question how you could be vanilla town and know about lovahs though. This sucks. I hate talking myself out of lynching people. I will look into it later (tm).
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fuck it.
I just lost a 3-hours worth of material painstakingly quoted from D1 trying to put my play with respect to Dormio in perspective. Mafiascum doesn't fucking make you lose your post if you hit backspace because you can hit the forward button and it's all there again.
Fuck.
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i herd dere was dis ting
it wuz called 'notepad'
an it was gud
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fuck fuck fguck. Fucking dumb shit.
Short story:
Hw, Dormio didn't actually give me stuff to respond to. He didn't ask my questions, he just stated opinions. In point of fact I didn't like his posts because A) he tunneled on BT for dubious reasons, and B) he misrepped me. It doesn't show in my posts as much as it should because I made a conscience decision to try to play like I did in MHM and Diablo mafia by tunneling on people I was most confident were scum and ignoring the back-round noise. 2ndly, I needed to reread before I realized how bad Dormio was treating BT. I was biased and largely overlooked how scummy Dormio's references to me were because I thought he was just being a prick picking on me. I should have shot that down instead of just giving the passing review "I'm unimpressed by [Dormio]" Only when I realized he was treating BT terribly did I question him more directly, and that was at the end of the day, and I had to go to sleep.
as for my actions D2, I very clearly stated I didn't like Schezo and Dormio. When I voted you, I wasn't particulary interested in getting you lynched but I thought you were a bit unnoticed and were a bit too laidback, and I didn't like your PX vote, so I felt like riling you. It's ridic to say I "sheeped" you at the end there. the "mind powers" quote was refering to your "why isn't Dormio lynched yet?"
I'm not sure why you think I was out for "town cred" when even a Kips/Wrathie should realize there's none to be gained hammering the way I did, I'm frankly insulted. (not sure if I'm giving Kips/Wrathie too much credit here).
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k.
I feel a bit better.
Rawr do you have a neighbor QT with HW?
re: Shadoweh: Oh, that's more understandable actually a nice catch there. thanks for bringing up evidence in my favor.
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Shadoweh I didn't know about lovers, it's just when you asked 'HOW YOU FEEL FOR ME DAN' I thought you might have been looking for something and wanted me to answer complusively, so I did. Later I was thinking if the case where you had a seeking role, I should probably not give you the wrong idea so I corrected myself.
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Rawr do you have a neighbor QT with HW?
why do you need to know this
shadoweh with the amount of townclears you're throwing around the scumteam basically has to be between rawr/bt/schezo. do you think the scumteam is between rawr/bt/schezo?
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Rawr do you have a neighbor QT with HW?
this (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13051.msg862843.html#msg862843)
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Because this implies Rawr is a lover to XXXX but he doesn't know who it is.
huh and here i thought huhwhat knew i was lovers with him for some reason.(i still have no idea who im lovers with)
also serela im pretty sure those were only your complaints
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i know the name :V
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do you think the scumteam is between rawr/bt/schezo?
sounds about right to me
although I'm still trying to shove schezo off to the side
rawr/bt totes makes sense though
(I never did the rereads ;_; I'll do it when I wake up then)
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wait Dormio tunneled on BT?
:T
I forgot I had to reread Dormio since he flipped scum. I'm silly. I'll do that first.
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ok every lover has been a neighbor to someone. every neighbor shares a QT with someone. No one has called sharing a QT with Rawr => HW and Rawr share a QT and that HW is lying when they say they don't share own.
Why are you lying HW. It's obvious to me you were told that Rawr is a protective role by Rawr himself. It's obvious Scum shot Bard anyway knowing even though you revealed there was a protective role and that any sane person would figure that either Rawr or you were it because you blatantly crumbed Rawr as your lover. Clearly whatever the fuck both of you want to hide is already known and/or inconsequential to Scum. So. Why are you lying now?
cuts- BT isn't scum or I'll eat my hat.
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town gains literally nothing from pursuing this. i'm also not lying about anything
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in other news: either shadoweh is connected to one of the scum, is scum herself, or she was rolecopped night 1
thoughts?
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Hw do you think Scum knew they could get away with killing Bard?
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i can't think of any reason they would, unless they like rolecopped the doc n1 and found out it was 1-shot or something
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alternately, all kills are slowkills because the flavor is depression
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Did you expect either yourself or Rawr to get shot last night?
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i tried to heavily imply that rawr was my lover so that rawr would get nightkilled. i did not know whether it would work or not
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but i really am a lover =/
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You also said you knew of a protective role when you soft cc'd Dormio to get him lynched. While heavily implying Rawr was your lover, which implies there is a QT between you where you share information. You'd think perhaps the logical leap to make is that either one of you/Rawr is that protective role, and seeing as how you were intrumental in Dormio's lynch, Scum would have every reason to take down both of you in one swoop. Do you.. just maybe... for one second, think that perhaps, scum possibly somehow could have known that just maybe, Bard could be taken down instead because they knew neither of you could actually do anything to stop it... the reason being scum had knowledge besides that of randomly role-copping a hypothetical 1-shot doc.
*ActionDan batts his eyelashes suggestively*
Perhaps, you know, maybe, possibly, their is a scum within the two of you that knows the entire insinuation D2 was baloni?
...cut?
Rawr if you were, you realize there would be a clause in your PM that tells you not to insinuate that?
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no? it tells me if i die he/she/it dies
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wait let me read it over again
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actually scratch that, its not really love. its more of an obligation
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I am not sure what to think or say.
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unless im reading this character wrong.... i dont remember this series at all
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Shadoweh, you claim to be informed. Do you have any idea what's going on here?
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I don't know what to make of rawr's almost unintelligible claim, mostly because I'm still not sure what he's trying to actually say. (Please clarify what you're claiming, rawr :c ) ActionDan assuming HW has to have a QT with rawr is silly, though.
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We're not lynching rawr today. I'm pretty sure the problem will solve itself tonight.
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why do you need to know this
shadoweh with the amount of townclears you're throwing around the scumteam basically has to be between rawr/bt/schezo. do you think the scumteam is between rawr/bt/schezo?
Rawr/BT/Schezo/Omba.
okay I just noticed there were 22 replies to this. Give me a minute.
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Mod just told me neither Hw nor Rawr is infatuated to each other, if either is a lover to each other, or else they'd have broke that clause.
So even if you were lovers going either way, neither of you had to lie about it, not now or ever. Which means you have no reason to hold back anymore considering Scum obviously don't consider either of you a threat. More likely than not is that at least one of you is actually scum.
And with Rawr's recent performance, my money's on him.
cut.
And if it doesn't Omba?
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wait what? the mod told you about me and hw roles?
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Feel free to lynch me if it doesn't. But I am damn sure it will.
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wait what? the mod told you about me and hw roles?
I asked him a hypothetical question, he replied in the affirmative.
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ok?
im also guessing youre asking me to fullclaim?
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Sorta. I'd rather we mass-claim today. and I actually want Schezo to start in that case and perfer you + Hw claim close to last.
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There's no reason for you to fullclaim. Actually, don't.
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I'd rather we massclaim tomorrow. Seriously.
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So even if you were lovers going either way, neither of you had to lie about it, not now or ever.
i never lied about it? huhwhat suggested that we were lovers so i assumed that he knew i was his lover for some reason
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The Dead are Waiting
ActionDan: huhwhat, Shadoweh (2)
BT: (0)
Dr. Rawr: Serela, ActionDan (2)
huhwhat: (0)
Omba: (0)
Schezo: (0)
Serela: Omba, Dr. Rawr (2)
Shadoweh: Schezo, BT (2)
With 8 alive, it's 5 to lynch.
You have 22 (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20120725T12&p0=236&msg=End+of+Day+Three) hours remaining.
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There's no reason for you to fullclaim. Actually, don't.
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I'd rather we massclaim tomorrow. Seriously.
except that a mislynch today is Mylo tomorrow (possibly Lylo because lol random lovers). And I perfer my massclaims one day before that.
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It's possible you don't have that clause. Possibly you and another person (HW or not) are actually bonified lovers, in that both of you will die if the other is killed. Waiting on Shadoweh to see if this is possible.
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There has been all of one night kill. You don't know what scum thinks is a threat or not, Jesus Christ.
Why the fuck do you want a mass on day fucking 3. Maybe tomorrow but there is no conceivable reason to mass today. Fuck.
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I have :reasons: for not wanting a massclaim today. Multiple ones, actually.
Just, don't.
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Yeah Dan, seriously. You're being really weird about -all- the role related shenanigans.
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TBH I'm considering Dan!scum who's trying to use roles for hunting just because it's easier to do via :logic: instead of having to actually scumhunt. But this is 1:53am Serela who may not be thinking very well.
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In fact have you made one non role related case this game?
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While this is possibly the easiest case ever, it's works ala the razor.
Actually, I want to hear all of this one. Particularly the part where you apply the razor and get to your conclusion.
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My role does not give me any idea what is going on, other then I did get the impression people might not -know- who they're in love with. If Rawr is a lover I'm really not sure why he's still alive though. O_o
Dan you know how I said you looked scummy for continuing to search for the protective role
what are you even doing right now seriously stop
Huh what: The funny thing is, I think Dormio might have actually been my lover. (I did not love him because I am not a furry).
##Unvote
##Vote: Schezo
I think I'm just going to lynch my wagon. They are obviously the scummiest people.
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In fact have you made one non role related case this game?
##Unvote
##Vote: Schezo
Scummiest bait you've made all game. and you've made several. Vote isn't leaving and I'm declaring a 1v1.
cut. Occam's Razor: a.k.a the simplist solution is more often than not the right one. i.e Scum killed Bard unimpeded as they were not tempted to kill one of Hw/Rawr despite the insinuation they were lovers and despite HW's claim he knew of a protective role that logically was because Rawr told him he was the protective role because one of Hw/Rawr is scum
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If Rawr is a lover I'm really not sure why he's still alive though.
because claimed sane cop is a better kill?
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Mod just told me neither Hw nor Rawr is infatuated to each other, if either is a lover to each other, or else they'd have broke that clause.
Dan's question was regarding this clause and whether rawr would have broken it if he hypothetically had it.
You may not reveal this to anyone at any point in the game, directly or indirectly until LyLO (or its psuedo, MyLO, varaints), due to your introverted self. Such is your plight.
My answer is that he would have. However, nowhere did I say that they are not one-sided lovers in any way. Either of them may or may not have any variation of the same clause, or a differently named one.
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I am going to sleep.
BT, I would not lynch ever. Similarly, wouldn't want to lynch Serela.
Omba, Shadoweh fall in next
There is something rotten in the state of HW/Rawr
and Schezo can die.
cut- um. k
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Dan, you're missing a serious step in your equation.
How would Rawr knowing Huh what is a doctor stop Huh what from protecting Bard?
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Because it's still apparent your "cases" are just buzzwords you can't be fucked to explain. I'd 1v1 you if Shadoweh wasn't today's lynch.
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1vs1 is an even dumber buzzword and you deserve to be shot for it.
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Me?
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I'd 1v1 you if Shadoweh wasn't today's lynch.
Yes you. There is only one real reason to 1 vs 1 a person. If you have proof they did something scummy. If you just think they're scum really hard it's meaningless.
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Vote isn't leaving and I'm declaring a 1v1.
Jesus Christ I'm done.
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>_> I WAS CUT 28 TIMES OKAY
DAN
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Giggling so hard at Shadoweh. Also not awake enough to properly evaluate how to react to this.
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##Unvote
##Vote: Schezo
buzzword is a buzzword
we're not massclaiming btw
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i had a premonition, schezo is the scums
he and dormio ignored eachother all game and his serela vote was likely in hopes he could get the serela -> dormio voters to switch back
now he's ignoring any implications of town!shadoweh from dormio's flip so that he can push a bad case, not to mention that he preferred serela lynch when shadoweh offered to quickwagon, which looks like a gotcha because she offered to support him
scum are content to push dumb cases on town reads this game if dormio's omba vote was any indication
also him throwing around the word buzzword as a buzzword to discredit people is lol
shadoweh sheep me
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also scum risked killing bard because it was obvious he was gonna scan schezo last night
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I've seriously had to hold back from voting Schezo after most of his posts after I dropped the case on him (As I've said), and my sudden town read of Shadoweh makes the Shadoweh push make sense from scum perspective on him. I still think my entire case d2 apart from the end-of-day shenanigans is valid (to me at least), and his case on me was utterly horrible, seeing as half of it was just blowing things out of proportion/wrong.
Clearing him over the d1 stuff was probably just silly as I've feared all along. HW's case is convincing enough for me to trust in my senses :D
##Unvote ##Vote Schezo (L-1)
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I'll sheep you huhwhat.
--cut by uh okay. I'll not vote right now then.
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Schezo flipping scum leads to instant town clear from me on the 4 people currently voting him btw. 3/4 I firmly believed are town already anyway, the 4th being Dan, and that'd just cement it. I would be absolutely shocked if otherwise were true after that. After that, the game would be in the bag.
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cut by infinite sheep works
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actually i missed shadoweh's switch.
have schezo claim, if the claim is bad then omba hammers
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Okay Shadoweh isn't exactly "firmly believed" but it would be after but it's holy shit 3am I thought it was 2am
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Except I'm town you fucks. Ok everyone, hammer me. This has got to have been the worst I've ever played and I'm taking a nice long break from this before I get heart failure.
This wagon cropping up in 1 hour is terrible.
I'm vanilla town, Shizue Satou, my son's is a no life and doesn't do anything but take all of my money I send to support him but I can't anymore so he cut off contact. Whoo mom.
Since I might as well just talk to myself and no one will listen when I flip because, lolbadreads all game hrr hrr nice going fucker.
Huh what is giving those Empress Iffreta vibes right about now for why I don't know. We'll call it Miya gut.
Rawr is probably town because I can just gut again.
I'd lynch Shadoweh and Dan with no regrets again because it's just so shitstunningly terrible but who am I? Just getting wagoned for "trapping" or whatever stupid bullshit you want to give me as the current case.
I dug myself into a hole ever since I decided to hard defend my townreads day 1 and attacked the opposing wagon which was the cop when both wagons were on suicidal lovers. Fanfuckingtastic.
There never was any redeeming myself from day 1 since I knew some bullshit like this was going to happen eventually and it might as well happen while we're not in lylo since some idiot would hammer me then because: OMG obvscumtellzzzzzz. and lose.
I still think Dan made up his Razor and reasoning on the spot because there were 90 different ways he could have used and interpreted it but it was scummy to just say OCCAM'S RAZOR and leave it at that. I'm not that stupid, I know what it is and how to use it. That wasn't it.
POW.
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I'm usually swayed by people's last posts aaaaaaaaaaaaa *Covers eyes* ;_;
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k
requesting omba's thoughts on that post
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I'll need to do some rereading first. Post in like 30 minutes or so, no one hammer before I post.
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Just noting that I'll probably be asleep by the time followup occurs then. (I'm horrible about procrastinating sleep and/or losing track of time though, so who knows)
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No Serela.
Look at some genuine townie ATE and perhaps you'll be able to recognize it one day.
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huh what I'm already sheeping you how am i suposed to sheep you harder
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Wait what the hell
You're not going to hammer without me again
Schezo wasn't scum. Off-hand Schezo isn't scum. This is like some kind of happy happy opportunistic wagon.
Serela, don't be a Shadoweh. Am I scum via PoE?
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Seriously what is with this game and baaaaahhhhh's
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Schezo wasn't scum. Off-hand Schezo isn't scum.
source?
unexplained early town reads don't mean shit at this stage of the game
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ITT BT remembers he's actually playing in the mafia game again!
BT do you have any reads you would like to add to the conversation?
brb comparing Schezo's post to Sailor Moon
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>not scum
>town read
Not the towniest town to walk the earth, but I'd lynch people that are actually scummy (are you lynching him off of connections and semantics?) over this "hey we can lynch Schezo let's lynch Schezo yay" wagon.
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I am so tempted to selfhammer at this point but I"ll do my best before I'm derp hammered by a retarded probably 60% town wagon.
BT is probably the only hope left in this game. If he is scum then gg m8s. I don't think he is though. So I'll expect the carry from someone who is dropping dead tonight which well shit this game.
But that's ok Huh What, you keep on trucking and feeling proud when I as scum did all I absolutely could to throw the biggest shitstorm at the end of day 1 I possibly could to just to let the hammer fall on town when any other time that would be a stupidly easy wagon to just let smack. Except I'm town, oh well.
Don't even start that shit Shadoweh, I know you'll just hammer me anyway so keep on it maflord.
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BT do you have any reads you would like to add to the conversation?
Oh I think I've made my opinions clear. Meanwhile,Rawr/BT/Schezo/Omba.
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The AtE Schezo is using sounds very similar to what Dormio did. Same no one listens to me, just differently flavoured. The fact that he's throwing out a scumread on you of all people just before he's about to die is also the same Dormio did regarding me.
The things he's saying re: end of D1 are how I had read it at the time (and why I was opposed to lynching Schezo D2). But really, the rest of the post reads scummy as fuck. "Go ahead and hammer me" in particular reads like a prime example out of the how to avoid getting lynched book.
Schezo: Could you give a very short summary of why you want to lynch Dan/Shadoweh? Also something more substantial regarding the read on huhwhat. Because while I'm not seeing Shadoweh scum, I'm absolutely not seeing huh what scum. So.
Also, where did that town read on rawr come from?
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I can't hammer you, I'm already voting you. :yukkuri:
It's possible you just learned to format better. Needs more Zombie Schezo to compare too.
BT: Not really. I have no idea what you think about anyone but Schezos right now.
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Now I'm more astonished at how you people are so convinced. >_>
Shadoweh, my vote is my scum read and Serela/Rawr are would be competing scum but Serela is sending conflicting vibes my way (which just want to make me stick to my case instead of ~clears yay~) and Rawr is lolnowhere. Dan is funny, deserves a slot if Serela decides to be town.
Who but Schezo is scum, Shadoweh?
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Adorable Schezo Zombee (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,8718.msg585744.html#msg585744)
Moon Tiara Schezo (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,9391.msg628198.html#msg628198) Yes he's Pope Cuckoobeater in this one.
They are whoever huh what says they are obviously
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both of those games are several months old and schezo doesn't even play like that anymore
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Slowly but steadily, Akira Jougasaki's corpse, already in a coffin waiting to be buried, started to emit a pungent, nauseating odour. Unable to take the smell, gravediggers in the immediate vicinity dropped their shovels in their flight, and very soon a large crowd, consisting of everyone who remotely knew him, gathered in a large circle around his body.
After a while, the more vocal Christians in the group started to raise their voices. They proclaimed that the pungent smell was none other than the 'odour of corruption'; evidence that Akira had committed numerous sins to other people, in life and in death. and that his soul had now descended into hell. An argument soon broke out among his friends (who defended him and wanted him buried with all the honours) and the religiously inclined (who insisted that his corpse be cremated and his ashes unceremoniously into the nearby river). By the time they came into an agreement that his body should be buried properly to preserve the memory of Hitomi's love, night had already fallen, and this hassle left them even more emotionally exhausted and drained. They retired for the night, ready for the inevitable death that was to come by next morning.
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NekoNekoRex has been going way out of line this entire game, whether in-topic or in the QTs, where it has been made clear that he has deliberately antagonized a player for shits and giggles. He is also generally insufferable and hypocritical in the QTs, and thus, after much discussion, I am modkilling him beyond the grave, regardless of his possible personal problems and such.
Town will suffer the usual penalties as a result of such a modkill, and this day phase will be skipped in observance of this, ending in a No Lynch. My apologies to town, but this really has to stop, and a precedent has to be set.
It is now Night 3. You have 24 hours remaining to send in Night Actions (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20120725T21&p0=236&msg=End+of+Night+Three)
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Asking as a mod and as someone that does not have the availability to sub into this game, can you and/or Edible PM me a quick summary if the situation and/or links to the QTs in question? I don't have enough to do at Otakon so I'd like to review the situation and take some time to form an opinion.
If Pesco isn't privy to details, I suspect he wouldn't mind this info either.
EDIT: Since it would be a clean cut right here, I'd also recommend beginning Day 4 by creating a second thread for this game in the interest of preserving forum functionality.
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Details sent.