Magical Madness Mafia 2, The Horrible Finish (Mod and Scum lose)

[Bardiche]

Various reactions throughout the game. I've listed and linked to them before. If those don't convince you then I cannot convince you. Simple as that.

The thing is that I like evidence a lot. Like with Serela's latest vote on me, I could say it's an obvious chainsaw defence of Zakeri, because he's not discrediting my case on Zakeri so much as he is voting me for being who I am and slandering my play as "unfun and unhelpful". On the other hand, I don't really have anything to prove to that that is the case, since Serela could seriously just be very angry because I didn't assume humour in a role madness game PX is hosting while the role I hold has a really ridiculous side to it.

I can't say I'm surprised since he's been wanting me to be Scum the entire game anyway, so jumping at something like that feels like the next logical step.

If you have anything solid to point to Hero being the holder of that vote that isn't up to multiple likely interpretations I'll be voting him right there with you. Until that time I just cannot see myself convinced to vote him for that reason - there may be other reasons but I admit I am lost on what they are.

[SirChaotick]

Bard: we(or at least me) are not criticizing you for having no sense of humour, but for going all crazy because Zakeri made a joke. Having no sense of humour may be a sufficient condition for the latter to happen, but it's not the part that needs changing right now: it's the latter part. Plus, if you really need proof that it was a simple exaggeration(which is slightly unfathomable): did you receive a sex in your role PM? Age? Vehicle licence? I doubt you received all of them; I know I didn't.

Of course, I am not saying that Zakeri's claim isn't contradicting himself in another way, but just hammering on that joke will get no one anywhere.

##Unvote
because I'm not sure of my reads anymore.

Rawr: explain. Why would I need vigging?

Okay, there's that post out of the window...
Indeed, I did make a passing stab against Zakeri. However, Bard had already made one on Raitaki, only to follow it up with another on Zakeri.
Also, that was an entirely different kind of exaggeration. Don't confuse exaggeration as in "literary device/joke" with exaggeration as in "overestimating an aspect of something".

I think I'm hurting my own head now.

And no, I didn't come to a conclusion in the end: I abandoned the full reread since people(you included) were telling me not to.

[Raitaki]

Bard what the hell is wrong with you. Stop being all like if Zakeri town this if Zakeri town that. That was my counterargument for people who think Zakeri is town. If you take that as "Raitaki would lynch town!Zakeri" then hey give me a situation where I can know Zakeri is town and we're cooking.

Also, no comments on Raikaria's stuff about C.C. vote. Knee deep in extreme WIFOM territory.

The amounts of facepalm-worthy material in this game is sapping what motivation I have left to spend a lot of time in this round :[

[SirChaotick]

Also, this attack is coming in at a pretty bad hour, namely that hour where you're likely to have to go to sleep within ten minutes. Blech.

At least if I get lynched in the night(the real one), I suppose my flip will provide clarity into matters. Not sure if I should claim in advance of getting mobbed.

[Raikaria]

If you have anything solid to point to Hero being the holder of that vote that isn't up to multiple likely interpretations I'll be voting him right there with you. Until that time I just cannot see myself convinced to vote him for that reason - there may be other reasons but I admit I am lost on what they are.

Unfortunately I have presented everything I have.

Also, this attack is coming in at a pretty bad hour, namely that hour where you're likely to have to go to sleep within ten minutes. Blech.

At least if I get lynched in the night(the real one), I suppose my flip will provide clarity into matters. Not sure if I should claim in advance of getting mobbed.

That wouldn't help, because Zakeri might just vig you if you claim.

[SirChaotick]

That wouldn't help, because Zakeri might just vig you if you claim.

...maybe that needn't be a problem.

[PX]

The Phonepost Votecount - Twenty Percent Power

Hero999 (1) - IHNN
Zakeri (1) - Raitaki
Raitaki (2) - Bardiche, DrRawr
Bardiche (3) - Zakeri, Serela, SirChaotick
SirChaotick (1) - Conq

Not Voting - Raikaria, Hero999, Shadoweh

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

||||||||||| 20%

[Raikaria]

...maybe that needn't be a problem.

True, your claim could lead to a Zakeri lynch, or your role might protect you somehow, or you don't give all the info.

[Conqueror]

And no, I didn't come to a conclusion in the end: I abandoned the full reread since people(you included) were telling me not to.

-.-
No, I meant that you didn't need to post the entire thing in the thread if you weren't going to come to any conclusions because it just clutters the thread. What did you get from the parts you did read?

[I have no name]

...maybe that needn't be a problem.

he has a point.  There's a lot of hypotheticals here so I'm not going to think too much into role shenanigans.

Right now, Hero's content has improved somewhat but I still want him lynched over any of the alternatives.
Likewise, Bard's content has retreated (can't think a better word for opposite of improved) into worse territory.

Shadoweh isn't playing like Shadoweh and so I'm a bit skeptical of your role-related proof Raikaria.

...
Can we please just lynch everybody who has votes on them?

[Conqueror]

I just realized that the first 40% of the battery went away in 20 hours, but then it took only 11 hours for PX to take away the next 30%. No wonder we're already at 20%. Screw you PX; this is worse than hard deadlines.  :V

[Raikaria]

Speaking of lynching an updated votecount could be useful too, to see how much time we have left and where votes are because there were a LOT of votes and unvotes.

[SirChaotick]

-.-
No, I meant that you didn't need to post the entire thing in the thread if you weren't going to come to any conclusions because it just clutters the thread. What did you get from the parts you did read?

Well, in that case, I misunderstood everyone, because I stopped reading everything and returned to the present discussion.
From what I read, Zakeri came out top, but that only extends to the start of Day 2 so it matters exactly nothing.
##Unvote

[Dr Rawr]

rawr, why are you voting for Raitaki?

because i think hes has a good chance of flipping scum
if my town reads are: Shadoweh, conq, bardiche, raikaria, me, IHNN(slightly)
that only leaves: serela, raitaki, sirchaotick, zakeri, Hero999

Given that im leaning more town on hero999, that only leaves 4 people that could possibly be scum.

Zakeris role i cant actually tell if its town aligned or not, but given that we can use it for something such as narrowing the list of potential scum which seems to be large for everyone =/

serela has made to many waffles for me to consume through out the entire game but that seems to happen all the time

that leaves only raitaki left, but i feel there isnt enough for me to go by because of his lave d2. Considering he has made logic which i really dont agree with i think he has a higher chance of flipping scum

Also name claiming if zakeri decides to im cool enough to vig Dokuro-chan (Bokusatsu Tenshi Dokuro-chan) Town Bludgeoning Angel

[SirChaotick]

What about me?

[Dr Rawr]

what about you?

[Raikaria]

what about you?

you give reasons for your other scum reads but don't mention SirChaotick, who you listed as scum.

[Dr Rawr]

idk, hes a newb who hasnt played the game before. what do you want from me?

[Raikaria]

idk, hes a newb who hasnt played the game before. what do you want from me?

In which case you should be reading him as town or null, and not scum.

[Raikaria]

Oh wait you put hjim in 'everyone else' not necessarily scum.

My bad. I guess that means you do have a null read on him.

[Dr Rawr]

ok

[SirChaotick]

I fear I have to depart immediately. So for the time being, goodnight.

おやすみ

[Raikaria]

おやすみ means Night.

Google Translate OP.

[Raitaki]

Where's my なさい? I will not be happy with a mere お休み, no!

うらさい

[Raikaria]

I just realized how much of a derp I am about asking for a votecount when there was one a few posts above that I didn't see.

Anyway, out of the people with votes; I really don't want to lynch Bard.

So, out of mainly worries about consolidation, and thinking out of the people with votes he is the least-town of the group:

##Vote: Raitaki

[Serela]

Guh. If we're not lynching Bard.

##Vote Rawr

[Raikaria]

Guh. If we're not lynching Bard.

##Vote Rawr

Actually I'll hop to this if there's a chance this could happen. Rawr's pretty useless and I'm not sure on Raitaki.

##Vote: DrRawr

[Dr Rawr]

ur face is pretty useless, but ya know were not lynching that are we?

i also see serela has done an actual reread of me and would like to ask where i went wrong?

[Dr Rawr]

or possibly hav zakeri vig me tonight, i did just name claim and neither of you want him lynched(so i assume you dont think he scum at this point)

[Raikaria]

Indeed, the name claim could be used as a role confirmation nightkill from Zakeri if you wish, but that means we lose two townies, plus any mafia nightkills. [If mafia even have a nightkilling role, I mean they haven't kills so far]

I'm kinda flicking between a Raitaki lynch, lynching Rawr, or just sticking to the Hero lynch regardless of what happens and being a stubborn mule.

Honestly I don't care which of those three happens.