http://iqdb.org/ or http://iqdb.hanyuu.net/ - Image search sites. Use these to find cleaner or higher resolution versions of certain images, or the artist of a certain picture.http://saucenao.com/ is good too, as it also indexes pixiv images.
The three of them were born long ago. At that time, there was a human noble, Count Prismriver. The Count had four daughters, whom he cherished.
However, due to an unfortunate accident, the four daughters were orphaned. Without any other relatives, each daughter went her own separate way. The fourth daughter, Layla, was unable to leave the mansion that held so many of her memories. Using her strongest power, she conjured poltergeists with the appearance of her older sisters, then vanished along with the mansion and the poltergeists.
Time moved on, and the death of the four people from those old days came to pass; the mansion, now called the Poltergeist Mansion, remained in Gensokyo. The three poltergeist sisters continue their noisy lives in that mansion to this day.
How and when did the Underground became a FORMER Hell and why? And where's the current Hell?I don't know how Satori feels about her pet crow being turned in to a nuclear reactor, but I know I read somewhere that Shikieiki took the former hell away.
Could someone explain how the Netherworld, Higan, Hell, death, and reincarnation all relate to each other?
Heaven is special. This is the ultimate goal for all living beings. Once you reach spiritual enlightenment (or in Tenshi's case: if your family does) and/or lived the life of a saint you become a Celestial and are allowed into Heaven. There are rumors though that Heaven in Touhou Project is 'full', so it might be even harder to get in now...
Anyways, later on, in Scarlet Weather Rhapsody, Yukari herself in her storyline travels to heaven and discovers that the whole thing is a LIE. Heaven is actually not full at all, but instead has plenty of room and is simply keeping people out because the current residents want the land for themselves, while lying that they're keeping people out because they're full. The whole experience seems to leave Yukari rather annoyed (and she ends up venting her anger on Tenshi. Well, she was also mad at Tenshi for other things, too, but whatever).Remember also how Suika just went up and beat up Tenshi for a piece of her land as well, making it some sort of Vacational terrain (With angelic minions included!).
Side tangent: Perfect Memento claims that heaven is full. The in-story credits in Perfect Memento include the Celestial bearocracy (whatever it's called. I forget. But you can look it up at Touhou wiki if you really want to know). This is important because that was likely Akyu's source (because Akyu is an unreliable narrator, it's sometimes good to know where she's getting her information from). In otherwords, Heaven's bearocracy itself told Akyu that heaven was full and not accepting new people at the time.
(some characters also snap at Shikieki in her win quotes asking what gives her the right to judge people)
doesn't stop people from doing exactly that
what's your point
That it's foolish and pointless to call the judge of the dead out for what she's supposed to do. Tiamat tries to make it sound like Shikieiki is dark/hypocritical/bad/whatever, but the characters are just being childish about it.Hey, you can't blame them, since half of them don't even believe that she's really the real deal when they first see her.
Speaking in all truthfulness; will you believe it and listen attentively if some random -cute- girl with an over-sized hat comes up to you and says that she's gonna be your judge of the afterlife and unless you do as she say's you're bound to go to hell?
Is the music in this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOBOotH79q0) based on Ievan Polkka?
OH GOD, IT'S THAT BRAINWASHER AGAIN! I doubt it's based on Ievan Polkka though, really. Deoesn't sound like. it be just a randomly invented theme. I catch myself in moments of inventing such crap in my head. Maybe this author decided to make a video of one.Considering that Touhou Hisoutensoku is canon, that'd be a yes.
I got a question regarding Utsuho:
Playing Hisoutensoku I can't lose the feeling that she seems like... a robot. My first thought about her really was that she was mechanical, or a cute android or something.
I've never seen her in fan stuff as going with "ENEMY DETECTED IN THE PERIMETER OF THE REACTOR. MUST OBLITERATE"
Is this how the canon Utsuho really is?
Yuuka is powerful because she's just goddamn powerful. There are no extraneous abilities or special things about her that makes her powerful (hell her ability is " manipulation of flowers"). She just possesses great amounts of raw awesome.
Something like Marisa.No, Marisa was taught magic by Mima and she gets more powerful through training and experimenting with magic (and stealing). It doesn't really matter how Yuuka became so powerful. She's an old and powerful youkai, that's it.
In SWR and Hisoutensoku we can see Reimu has abilities to teleport. That's pretty wow and awesome. Is this somehow related to Yukari? Or Gods grant her such power as a Hakurei?Reimu can fly out of existence, essentially. Even in IN she teleports across the screen and creates boundaries herself. I suppose it's an innate Hakurei ability that she picked up as her powers as a shrine maiden developed, and it was probably influenced by Yukari. But I don't think she currently has the ability to project a closed space like Yukari; just teleportation. Obviously her borders aren't as powerful as Yukari's either.
Well she did earn the "Ultimate Magic" after Mystic Square.No, she's always been extraordinarily powerful. The Ultimate Magic was just something ZUN made up in Kioh Gyoku for her character profile that pretty much meant absolutely nothing.
More questions about Hell. How does Hell relate to Chireiden and the SA cast (e.g. Utsuho and the Hell of Blazing Fires, the Palace of the Earth Spirits, etc.)? How does Makai fit into all this?
Also, why is Yuuka considered one of the strongest youkai in Gensokyo? I know she's old, but what powers does she have that make her more threatening than the other youkai?
In SWR and Hisoutensoku we can see Reimu has abilities to teleport. That's pretty wow and awesome. Is this somehow related to Yukari? Or Gods grant her such power as a Hakurei?
More questions about Hell. How does Hell relate to Chireiden and the SA cast (e.g. Utsuho and the Hell of Blazing Fires, the Palace of the Earth Spirits, etc.)? How does Makai fit into all this?
Reimu can fly out of existence, essentially. Even in IN she teleports across the screen and creates boundaries herself. I suppose it's an innate Hakurei ability that she picked up as her powers as a shrine maiden developed, and it was probably influenced by Yukari.Could you elaborate a little more on this (Reimu's powers, esp. flight)? The wiki doesn't really have much to say on the matter.
^^
Could you elaborate a little more on this (Reimu's powers, esp. flight)? The wiki doesn't really have much to say on the matter.
truthThere's your answer. :V (Most likely)
Marisa
There's something that's been bugging me for a while, and I sure hope this is the right place to ask. (newb, lol) :V
Anyway, We all know that Reimu apparently has no living relatives, right? Well, in CoLA, Marisa picks up the 'parent' role when she picks up beating up Tokiko for Reimu. When Tokiko retorts that she couldn't possibly be Reimu's parent, Marisa states that she was abandoned. Reimu didn't seem to react to this in any way, which makes me wonder if she was just hiding her feelings. But since that isn't very Reimu, I wonder how much truth there is in Marisa's statement.
There's your answer. :V (Most likely)
Blah Blah pathological liar blah blah orphan
Yeah, I guess that makes sense. Though it does make you wonder, if there were Hakureis aside from Reimu, where are they now?
Maybe she's a Cabbage Patch Kid.Further evidence of Cactus Koishi!
As in, what's going to stop her if she does fly to Hakugyokurou like Reimu, Sakuya, and Marisa did?Nothing. In fact I see no reason for her not to be able to get in there.
Mokou likely can't fly without exerting a lot of :effort:She could get catapulted :V
Mokou cannot die. To the Netherworld can get only people who can die.
I always imagined it like an extra strong barrier against immortals :V for example:
Reimu: Let's fly to the Netherworld, Mokou
Mokou: K.
Reimu flies safely
Mokou crashes into an invisible wall.
Mokou: Sorry, babe. I'm immortal.
But that's just my own speculation, might be a miscalculation by ZUN.
Well, the thing is that there IS a super strong waist-high barrier around the Netherworld. But everyone just flies over it and bypasses it completely. There would need to be another barrier on top of the barrier.
Ok new question: Do you think the girls are really virgins?
Except from Reimu, Marisa, Sanae (too young), the fairies (too childish), Shikieiki, Komachi (Death and Yama), Byakuren (be a monk since very young), Kaguya (the highest princess ever known) it's impossible for me to think they didn't love and make love. Of course, Yuyuko maybe different cos touching her equivalent to death. But Yukari, Yuuka, Suika, Yuugi? Nah.
The sexual life of all Touhou characters will forever remain a mystery and doujin material. We can't know this. it's impossible. Only Suwako is a sure person.Suwako too is of debatable (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Talk:Suwako_Moriya) virginity, but there is one character who definitely isn't a virgin:
A lot of people say that Mokou can't visit the netherworld because she's immortal.
That would make perfect sense in certain canon. But seeing as in touhou, the Netherworld is a place with a gate just about anyone can fly over, I have to ask why not?
As in, what's going to stop her if she does fly to Hakugyokurou like Reimu, Sakuya, and Marisa did?
A youkai is a living creature, they also have the urge to reproduce. We knew many stories about youkai kidnapped human to satisfy their lust, especially the Oni, which race is known for living with fights, wine and sex. If they became strong and restrain it, they would still find someone worthy to love during their lives (minimum hundreds years). There are a lot of stories about this kind of romance too.Actually, I'd assume the complete opposite. Since objects and animals randomly become Youkai and their lifespans are incredibly long, I don't really see any reason why they would have an urge to reproduce.
There are also stories about beautiful youkai, got hunted by human and ravished. But I really don't wanna think about that with Touhou characters.Mokou...
Was the mansion originally in Gensokyo?"The Poltergeist Mansion (騒霊屋敷) is home to the Prismriver Sisters. It was formerly the mansion of a human aristocrat in the outer world, but was transported into Gensokyo by the invocation of an unknown ritual. " (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Poltergeist_Mansion)
(this is actually referenced in Perfect Memento (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Perfect_Memento:_Encyclopedia:_Outsider))
>1: Lately, a sport called "soccer" has become popular. Like that, Gensokyo is halfway infected with the outside world.Okay I'm confused now. What do you mean? Is PMiSS considered fanon?
uhhh why does this sound familiar (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Touhou_Soccer_Moushuuden)
Okay I'm confused now. What do you mean? Is PMiSS considered fanon?No, ZUN was just snidely referencing a popular fangame.
Question here: We got through the stages of death in Gensokyo, nice. But what would happen if Marisa died? Couldn't she just beat whoever shows up? I mean, defeat death with raw power? Blast death and live ?You can't "stop" death once it happens. She could beat up Komachi, she could attempt to beat up Shikieiki; but it wouldn't change the fact that she's dead. Going against the Yama is likely an extraordinarily grave offense and Marisa would be sent to Hell or something if that happened. Who knows if she would actually keep any abilities after death though, or even as a ghost or something. It's hard to say.
You can't "stop" death once it happens. She could beat up Komachi, she could attempt to beat up Shikieiki; but it wouldn't change the fact that she's dead. Going against the Yama is likely an extraordinarily grave offense and Marisa would be sent to Hell or something if that happened. Who knows if she would actually keep any abilities after death though, or even as a ghost or something. It's hard to say.
Oh ok. Problem here is that Marisa is a human and when she finally does die (presumably of old age) she'll still be an old mess. Kinda hard to fight as an old human.
everyone will wear pants
Mokou was first to those weird contraptions, mind you!Overalls != pants. They are more akin to trousers than anything else. Then again, the word pants can describe a variety of garments worn. I guess it really depends on what region you live in.
Despite being drawn as a boy, Mokou is one of the most feminine characters in my Touhouverse.
Well my Touhouverse is different from yours :D
Also thanks to these guys:
http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/index?tags=hachi_(chihagura)
http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/index?tags=sen_(astronomy)
Those links don't work, sorry.
Mokou was first to those weird contraptions, mind you!
What is silly-sounding about 式輝「プリンセス天狐 -Illusion-」(Shikigami's Radiance "Princess Tenko -Illusion-")?
Huh? Silly? It's a meme. Ran in some fandom is presumed as an exhibitionist, so every time people hear that spell card name, they have SUPPA TENKO in their heads (I know you do!). that'sthejoke.jpg
there is a ) in the end.
So the English Touhou Wiki is wrong about "Shikigami's Radiance "Princess Tenko -Illusion-" sounding silly?I don't see that anywhere on there.
So the English Touhou Wiki is wrong about "Shikigami's Radiance "Princess Tenko -Illusion-" sounding silly?
スッパテンコー
Suppatenko-
読み
Read:
すっぱてんこー
Suppatenko-
意味
Definition:
東方スレ45で突如登場したコピペ。大人気を博し、一時テンプレとなり、
果ては漫画まで書かれ、これによって「藍＝変態」というイメージが一時的に定着してしまった。
尚、とっくの昔に廃れているので今更使うと白い目で見られる。
（過去のネタ項参照）
特に一部の藍信者には物凄く嫌われている。
Something that appeared out of nowhere on the 45th Touhou thread. It immediately became popular, so popular that it became a template for the thread, and a manga was drawn for it. This instantaneously labeled Ran as an Exhibitionist.
Furthermore, this joke is far obsolete and if you use it now, you'll be looked upon weirdly.
(Refer to past jokes and memes (http://thwiki.info/?%C5%EC%CA%FD%A5%B9%A5%EC%CD%D1%B8%EC%BC%AD%C5%B5%2F%A4%AB%B9%D4#n5ec805e))
It is strongly disliked by a certain handful of Ran believers.
I don't see that anywhere on there.
One of her Spell Cards (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Spell_Card), "Princess Tenko (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Perfect_Cherry_Blossom:_Extra_Spell_Cards#Spell_Card_123)," made her one of the most popular joke characters in the Touhou (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Touhou) community, second only to "Chuugoku (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Hong_Meirin)" with the silliness of its sound. It might have something to do with a famous Japanese illusionist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Tenko), considering how foxes are known for their tricks and illusions in folklore.
Well, actually Suppa Tenko was some stupid meme that the people on 2ch came out with and has stuck on to Ran (Just because she was the poor victim of random AA nudity)
So it wouldn't be quite right to say that the spell card was the reason to her exhibitionist interpretation.
Since it's quite old, quite random, and since people -especially Ran fans- aren't quite fond of it, I think people are free to forget about thejoke.jpg
As for the existence of fandom cruft on the wiki, where else is the isolated Touhou fan supposed to find out what SuppaTenko is? :V
What's the deal with ex-Rumia? I mean, I know what's it about but where did it came from and is there any at least slight hint it might be real?It's a fan-theory made from her profile in EoSD.
The ribbon tied to her hair is actually a charm; she can't touch it even though there have been times when she wanted to take it off.I guess people speculated that the charm is there for sealing her true powers or something along those lines.
Because if she ever take it off, she'll become so moe we are all gonna die.
Did ZUN ever mention anything about Momiji Inubashiri's gender?
Every game character in Touhou is female, except the turtle and the cloud. The turtle's a turtle so no one cares about it, and clouds have no reproductive organs so it's technically genderless.
Rinnosuke and Youki would like to have a word with you.
rinnosuke is a pretty major character tbh
he's just too much of a pussy to be in any games
She is referred to as a female in her MoF profile (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Momiji#Mountain_of_Faith_-_.E3.82.AD.E3.83.A3.E3.83.A9.E8.AA.AC.E6.98.8E.txt).
I only checked the Double Spoiler comments, and they didn't mention anything about the gender.um
The mountain watchdog, the white wolf tengu.
I came to check if she has been actually working.
Though we get into fights easily whenever we meet....
Ah, it's Momiji the white wolf tengu, huh?
It looks like she can't deal with with Aya, but I wonder why...
Maybe they just have a cat-and-dog relationship.
The original text has no gender specifics, it just assumes she's a girl. It was said she's a girl in MoF though, so it doesn't matter.
Actually, it's Touhou, so unless it's obvious they're a guy it's probably a girl anyways.
Are we allowed to ask about scanlations, or does that fall into the same taboo as piracy?You can ask all you want, post snippets without worry, and discuss them accordingly. I'd be a little weary of posting most download links, though, despite the fact that you can get tons of stuff through Gensokyo.org and sometimes even the Touhou Wiki itself. And keep it strictly Touhou. Obviously we don't need One Piece manga being distributed through this place.
When I first played IN, I thought Wriggle was obviously a guy.You can discuss them, but you cannot provide download links to them. You can post a page or two as samples or for discussion but we would prefer you do the legwork yourself when it comes to actually obtaining the whole thing. It's a horribly grey area and to be on the safe side we do not want to be responsible for providing any copyrighted material that isn't explicitly authorized by the creator.
Are we allowed to ask about scanlations, or does that fall into the same taboo as piracy?
Okay, thanks. I already own most of the games, so that's not a problem. Now I'll just have to figure out how to rip the music.
It's less of Kanako and Suwako being summoned, I think it's that they're looking after Sanae and coming to her aid when she needs them.
Besides she's more of a wind priestess than a shrine maiden, IIRC. Can someone confirm?
she became something akin to a living God.Actually this was what she felt on the outside world. Her MoF profile states that while a living god on the outside, she wasn't that big on Gensokyo.
Actually this was what she felt on the outside world. Her MoF profile states that while a living god on the outside, she wasn't that big on Gensokyo.
Oh ok. (http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/706/0105f2ra.jpg) Guess it's just me, then.
Oh, yeah, when that doujin was released, I remarked on the similarity to my story which I'd written months before (http://dizzy.pestermom.com/?p=flankoi). :V
Alice in PC-98 is an obvious reference to Alice's adventures in wonderland.
How well known is Ryunosuke Akutagawa(芥川龍之介) in Japan?Any Japanese person who received satisfactory education will know of his name, if not for his stories for the Award named after him. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akutagawa_Prize)
Is he someone every Japanese person would know?
His later works leave people confused because he was pretty much a suicidal psychotic mess of a person who was also suffering from hallucinations during the period he wrote his last ten or so books in rapid succession.That was quite a mouthful to say to a dead man, wasn't it?
A lot of people say that Mokou can't visit the netherworld because she's immortal.
That would make perfect sense in certain canon. But seeing as in touhou, the Netherworld is a place with a gate just about anyone can fly over, I have to ask why not?
As in, what's going to stop her if she does fly to Hakugyokurou like Reimu, Sakuya, and Marisa did?
I think I read this before, but I can't remember where. From where is this tidbit actually from? Perfect Memento hardly says anything about immortality in both Mokou and Kaguya's pages, as if Akyu doesn't even know what the Hourai Elixir is.
Apart from that: do the moon rabbits (not royalty, but Reisen's so called friends) don't mind her fleeing from the moon? And why did she flee anyway? She didn't run away with Eirin and Kaguya.
I think I read this before, but I can't remember where. From where is this tidbit actually from? Perfect Memento hardly says anything about immortality in both Mokou and Kaguya's pages, as if Akyu doesn't even know what the Hourai Elixir is.
試して見ないと判らないわ
なんにしても、お呼ばれしてないあなたが
ここにいる時点で死んだも同然
というか、ここに居る事自体が
死んだと言うことよ
We can't know before we try.
And in any case, uninvited girl,
being here at this point in time is same as dead.
Or more precisely, being here means you have died.
成仏を忘れた亡霊は新たな生を生まない。
死ねない人間は色鮮やかな冥界を知らない。
生まれ生まれ生まれ生まれて生の始めに暗く
死に死に死に、死んで死の終わりに冥し
Ghosts without a soul cannot be born...
People who can't die cannot know the world of the dead.
Eternally born into darkness is life
Eternal death at the end of the dark.
そういえば、あの未確認飛行妖怪
結局、仏門に入門したみたいよ
お寺で寝泊まりだってさ
やっぱり地底は嫌みたいね
普通の妖怪は
Speaking of which, that unidentified flying youkai
got converted to Buddhism
and is now living at the temple.
I guess the normal youkai
really hate the underground.
Nazrin's depicted with a little mouse in the basket she carries on her tail. My question is this: How in the hell does that mouse not fall out from the basket when Nazrin's in a danmaku battle? ???duct tape and jb weld
duct tape and jb weldWhen in doubt, Duct it!
When in doubt, Duct it!
If Cirno can freeze things, can she freeze...time? makeshift a Za Warudo?
Koumakyou The doujinshi... I really want to find out who's the artist.
The one where Remilia does the red mist again to provoke Reimu into trusting them to help her being human other than a System.
If Cirno can freeze things, can she freeze...time? makeshift a Za Warudo?
Remilia's ability Manipulation of Fate. To what extent does that work? I know it's one of those less explained "theoretical class" abilities, but if that thing's powerful enough, it could be more game-breaking than Yukari's Border Manipulation (which I've always thought is basically gensokyo's end-all cheat)Fate is a string, and Remilia can do whatever to one's string. However, the string isn't existing by its own, it connects to others. So change one tiny bit she can bring the whole system down (like the "time travel" thing). Because the risk is too much Remilia can't probably use her power much, most of the time she would just observe. Yukari's gap ability in other hand something out of all rules, she can change something from another dimension so it won't affect anything else. (e.g you're in the 3rd dimension, so to the 2nd dimension like a paper, you can erase a paragraph, a picture without touching other part of the paper.)
Anyone know if Flandre has a range to her "Breaking anything" ability?Like Shiki's eyes (typemoon), but instant hit regardless the distance as long as she can see the target.
Chen has no official last name? It's not "Chen Yakumo", just Chen?She's not good enough to be a Yakumo. Not yet.
And if obedient shikigamis have power near identicall to masters, isn't Ran then a less random Yukari?Shikigami is something that summoned by the master and act independently with its master's power. But it's just about mana actually.
Meiling's Manipulation of Chi...she can then shrug off chi-based attacks against her like nothing?Nope, like how a fire pokemon still gets hit by a fire attack, thought it does get reduced in power. Meiling has control on Chi but it's her own Chi, like a master of kungfu, she may be able to change the flow of Chi with techniques seen in Wudang, but she can't just sit there and take the hit without getting damaged.
Yuuka's Mansion...is on the border of dreams or something? Doesn't make much sense.Why are you talking about sense in a world where 1700+ years old hags look like 17 years old high school girls with absolute juicy bodies and 2 kids are living alone beating monsters daily for fun?
I know she keeps saying she's human, but Marisa is quite probably a youkai by now. Alice changed appearance when she became a youkai, and marisa used to be a redhead! did marisa merely bleach her hair?Marisa is as youkai as Reimu is a zombie.
If Cirno can freeze things, can she freeze...time? makeshift a Za Warudo?Coldness makes things moves slower. And we all know that "time" is defined by lightspeed. So if Cirno can take an area to absolute zero, where nothing moves (no heat), then it possible to get a za warudo in one's view point (of course, when you see nothing moves you guess it's freezed time right). However this is only temperament, because as soon as "heat" gets in the area (sunlight or any kind of fast movement like Aya's) the za warudo gets crushed. So I say it's possible for Cirno to "stop time", but impossible to maintain it to do anything. Sakuya's ability on the other hand doesn't work the same way, but heck, I'm not qualified to explain it.
It just gets to that point when people interpret "Manipulation of" as some kind of complete and absolute control over whatever the next word is. "Cold" doesn't even exist if you want to talk scientifically about a magical phenomenon. If you wanted to literally godmode how Cirno's powers are described it would be "to control the flow of energy/heat in an endothermic reaction" or some crap like that, which not only wouldn't make sense in thermodynamics since the energy doesn't actually go anywhere, it wouldn't actually make ice. Cirno's ability lets her freeze the water vapor in the air and condense it into manageable forms of ice, or uncontrolled it becomes mist or something like that. It's goddamn magic. There's no point in comparing depths of science to Gensokyo; even when science is actually involved, such as Kanayamabiko no Mikoto making a metal necessary for cold fusion out of essentially nothing. It's science, but you shouldn't care about how it/if it works.
If Cirno can freeze things, can she freeze...time? makeshift a Za Warudo?I actually asked this semi-jokingly, :ohdear: and was kinda satisfied with "no, stop that"...
Are you aware that the video is referenced constantly in many many other japanese videos as well?Referenced? I had thought it was mostly remixes. But yeah, never mind about that question.
The original picture is just the floating heads.Oh, no wonder.
Is there a limit to how many user replays you can have that will show up in-game?15+45 for a total of 60 for PCB and IN. Unconfirmed for EoSD but I think it would be the case there as well.
How many games in Touhou besides PC-98 are affected by rank?EoSD, and very small portions of PCB.
Is grazing fuckin useless in MoF?Yes.
See if it's any of these:ah darn i didn't see it. thanx for trying though.
http://danbooru.donmai.us/post?tags=genjii+kirisame_marisa&commit=Search
Danbooru, NSFW, etc.
Actually, this is probably it then.
http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=1113621
The version on danbooru got deleted.
It's said she can manipulate parallel timelines by using these moments.Just what does that mean?
I have a few questions.
1. The Great Hakurei Barrier. Isn't it a one-way deal? Meaning, you can go in from the outside but you can't go out from the inside? I say this because of the existence of Mayohiga (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Mayohiga), as it states that you can supposedly wander in from the outside. And that village really does exist in Touhou, it's where you fight Chen in TH7, so... I know it says it's speculation on the Mayohiga page, but...
2. About Kaguya's Perfect Memento article (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Perfect_Memento:_Kaguya_Houraisan):Just what does that mean?
3. Where does it say that danmaku deals purely spiritual damage? I've read this somewhere, but I don't think it was canon. I know that the concept is that you're to limit the use of your powers and try not to kill the opponent, but...
1. As this page explains, outsiders can return to the Outside World via Hakurei Shrine. (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Perfect_Memento:_Encyclopedia:_Outsider)
2. That I do not know. It could mean that Kaguya can actually control what is happening in alternate timelines by making a single short moment eternal and look at the outcomes, but that is mere speculation.
3. Physical damage is useless against youkai. Therefore, spiritual attacks are preferred and most likely compose danmaku. Besides, after battle you do not see the girls wounded, having only torn clothing at worst, which might just be caused by the force of danmaku. (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Perfect_Memento:_Encyclopedia:_Presence)
1. No. As Gensokyo began as a place to seal away the youkai, naturally it was meant as a get-in-and-stay-in. The Hakurei Barrier itself isn't this barrier though; the Hakurei Barrier is the barrier that seals Gensokyo from the outside world. You don't get in or out from there; it is the actual seal. You can go to the Hakurei Shrine from both Gensokyo and the outside world, but they are not the same one, and you cannot cross over either way without the help of the Shrine Maiden (who might not even technically open the barrier). That being said, there are many other barriers and weaknesses in those barriers that "allow" people to come in. This is for the most part a one-way gate. But, I would be lying if I said it was an absolute one-way.1. Ok, but what are the other barriers that allow you to reach Mayohiga that you speak of?
2. Think of it this way. An eternity is a singularity of a period of time; that is there are no changes and you cannot change it. An instant is also a singularity of a period of time, but this state came from another instant and will at some point change into another instant. Depending on how you look at it, an eternity and an instant are the same. Kaguya can control an instant and she can control an eternity, being able to alter an instant and turn it into an eternity as to last it forever, or she can turn an eternity into an instant. Up to a certain instant, the house of Eientei did not exist in Gensokyo's timeline. Kaguya manipulated the eternity that contained her house, and turned it into an instant, thereby letting the timeline flow and the house of Eientei just popping up. But as the timeline with Eientei and the timeline without Eientei are different, you could say she manipulated these parallel timelines in that instant. It isn't the same as Sakuya's abilities, but it's similar in that it "stops" time (instant->eternity) and "resumes" time (eternity->instant).
3. http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Perfect_Memento:_Encyclopedia:_Presence
This is also a good read, and solidifies that youkai may die from spiritual attacks. http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/ZUN%27s_E-mails
I would agree, but if she could hax her way into Gensokyo, is there really even anything stopping her from traveling to and from the moon at any time? Did Kaguya even really matter much to the Lunarians? Were the emissaries sent to bring Kaguya back simply exiled Lunarians that were sent to their deaths unknowingly? You never know. If anything, Eirin was a much more important Lunarian figure, and they left them alone simply because Eirin was with her. Or something.Sorry about this rant here in advance, I just kinda got started typing and it kept going... And it ended up pretty off-topic. Not to mention, you probably already know most of this.
EDIT: I should reread IMIE. There's probably an inkling of explanation in there somewhere.
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/File:Keine.ogg"Correct" is a vague term to use here. While it would be considered correct as "it is japanese and therefore correct", my intonation there makes me wince slightly. I definitely have to redo them eventually.
Assuming Drake's pronunciation is correct.
What's the song at the beginning of this video? (Before Cirno's Perfect Math Class starts playing.)
Where does Cirno's love for watermelons come from? Is it cannon or fannon?
The theme song for 必殺仕事人, 想い出の糸車 (Omoide no Itoguruma / The spinning wheel of memories) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng9m3RM3TFg)Ah, thanks!
Dying.
I've always wondered, are there special names for every bullet in existence since the Windows games? Comparatively, why are those large orb bullets called "Metal Fatigues"?I don't know the answer to the first question, but for the second... I do know that "Metal Fatigue" is the name of one of Patchouli's spell cards. If these are the bullets you're talking about:
Please tell me I'm an imbecile retard and this is not Gensokyo the Gods loved. Not my favourite song, no. Please, ZUN, I hate you :(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhKqeKDVorA
I assume it's because she shares her name with this herb: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patchouli
I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this. I'm sorry if it isn't.Anyone mind giving me an answer? Please...
I want to post one of my Touhou fan fictions on the fanfic section of this forum, but since the story is posted on FF.net, can I simply post the link to that site in that section?
Thanks in advance!
Good thing I ran into this thread since I was gonna make a new thread bout it.Artist is Amane, circle is L.I.C.
Anyways, I've heard this remix several times and would like to know the Artist or Circle. It's been bugging me for quite some time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3VVJE1lEtU&feature=related
Thanks in advance.
Artist is Amane, circle is L.I.C.
It's track 7 on 夢見月
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYllykLUFcQ&feature=related#t=2m10s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYllykLUFcQ&feature=related#t=2m10s)I can't really say, but you might have better luck browsing the names of the works here (https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AinmgqO-NF3adFRVT2lhUXlqdzNVM2JLWEU2UldfcGc&gid=1).
Can anyone tell me what song is playing at 2:10? And at 9:10?
Just in case -in that case, 2:10 is Girl's Sealing Club (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPa6SQP90Aw)
I was talking about the original songs, not the arrange itself. Any ideas what the originals are?
This has been driving me crazy for months. I know the character is fake, but I have heard the music in one or two other videos. Unfortunately I couldn't find a Youtube link, but it's there on Nico Nico Douga:
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/nm7753348
oh and can someone tell me how to get a profile pic? Im sorry but i can be so oblivious to things sometimes. probably rightthere
You know the Windows Touhou Title Screen themes all have a certain melody that goes into all of them right? The one that goes (in a natural minor key) 1 4 5 7 5 4 (in A Natural Minor it'd be A D E G E D), with EoSD, IN and 10D having slight variations in that theme.
My question now is this. Has this melody ever appeared anywhere in the PC-98 games? I'm quite sure it's non-existant in any PC-98 title themes.
This might be an old and silly question...
I always wonder, when we faced against the boss they of course using danmaku to kill you, right? Then why not a playable character also use danmaku to kill them?
Anime Tenchou x Touhou Project, long overdue by about 5 months GET!?I don't think it exists. IIRC it was shown at a live event and never released.
Where can I find it :D?
Utsuho reiuji art features a space background below her wings, what is it actually? A cape or the source of magic?
You need to 1cc it with two different shottypes.Yes and no.
Based on a quick scan through VGMDB from the songs you listed they have arrangers of Flower of Japan and Inanimate Dream. Their new albums (to be released in a few days) are going to have Heian Alien and Flower Land.
In th075, everyone fights Suika on the 幻想郷 stage. Is this 幻想郷 'the' Gensokyo, or some illusionary village somewhere in Gensokyo?
Hmm, If I'm understanding correctly, Yukari gaps you to Suika, who is spread all over gensokyo. Or was it that she shrunk Suika's boundary which made her more dense so she had to appear.It's both. In nearly every scenario, Yukari only says "well now you can see her". In Yuyuko's scenario, Yuyuko mentions that the disappearance of the fragrance of tea over time, is really just the fragrance being spread over a wide area and becoming thinner, and it never truly disappears. Ergo, she knows what's up. She asks Yukari to form a boundary over Gensokyo, and shrink it to reveal the culprit. The stage where you battle is really a shrunken boundary containing all of Gensokyo. It's also why you don't actually see Yukari even though she repeatedly speaks in certain scenarios.
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The outfit Yukari wears in Immaterial and Missing Power, Imperishable Night, and Scarlet Weather Rhapsody has two groups of solid/broken lines called trigrams on the front. A solid line represents Yang and a broken line is Yin. The top trigram (☱) is "dui" or "tui" (open) and is associated with west and water. The bottom trigram (☷) is "kūn" (field) and is associated with southwest and earth, as well as Yoni (divine passage). The two trigrams together in that order form the hexagram for "clustering," "gathering together," and "finished." Sounds more fitting for Suika in a way...
The hexagram "Ts'ui" formed by the combination of "tui" and "kun" results in a meaning of gathering together to persevere towards a destination. This hexagram signifies also great wisdom which is necessary for leadership when directing an assembly together to create overall prosperity for everyone (for example a ruler). Yukari herself can be seen as an overseer of Gensokyo. Her ability to create borders would definitely give her the ability to bring everyone together (perhaps by force) while maintaining the harmony of the "created" world. Maybe this design was a critique on her abilities?
Youmu's phantom-half is just her "higher soul" (the Hun or "Kon"), existing outside of her body but still metaphysically attached to her "lower soul" (the Po or "Paku"), which resides in her body.And Wikipedia has an article on "hun" and Po" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hun_and_po).
The Po soul is the animal soul that animates the body. When Youmu dies, it will disappear, and her body will drop dead. Her phantom-half higher soul will then resolve itself into Youmu's ghost, to move on to the afterlife.
How does ZUN compose his music? By using all instruments by himself, isn't it practically hard?
I've found something strange: Every source I found on The Tale of A Bamboo Cutter, Kaguya's direct backstory, stated that it happened in the 10th century (901-1000). But the Gensokyo Timeline stated it was about 700.ZUN takes liberties everywhere.
I also couldn't find official information on Mokou being Fujiwara no Fuhito's daughter anywhere. (ZUN only said "Long ago, before she became immortal, she was the daughter of an aristocrat.")
Fujiwara is a big clan, but I don't think Fuhito can live until 10th century to be rejected by Kaguya (the wiki said he died in 720). Not to mention the oldest kid he ever had was born in 680, so Mokou can't be "born before The Tale of The Bamboo Cutter" which happened in 672 according to the Gensokyo Timeline.
Is there some mistake?
I was wondering if it is possible to rip (am I allowed to say that?) the image from the game somehow, or if there was a collection of background images used throughout the stages in Touhou in general.Might want to check out Drake's thread on rips of graphics from the Touhou games (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,197.0.html).
oh, my hero~!
oh yea i forgot, I know how to declare your spellcard in IaMP but how do you actually use it? :ohdear:236D
So, when ever i play IN on easy, Well, i've onlty actually beaten it once on easy :3, but how do you get to go to battle Kaguya as the final boss instead of Eirin? ???beat eirin, and then the next time you play with that team/character, you go to stage 6b. if you beat that, you get to choose as long as you haven't continued (if you continue you go to 6a).
Oh yeah, also to get the extra boss in EoSD and PCB you just have to beat it without using any continues on normal or higher, yes?yes
And in IN to get the extra boss do you have to not use any continues or just complete the Five impossible requests, or both?no, as long as you get to the last spells (and don't continue) it's considered cleared, even if you hit 5AM.
One more thing...How do you unlock Characters in IaMP? So far I have reimu, marisa, sakuya, youmu, alice, and patchouli.for arcade mode and practice and such, just fight each in any story mode and beat them. meiling you have to download a v1.11 patch and beat story mode at least once for one character
Might want to check out Drake's thread on rips of graphics from the Touhou games (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,197.0.html).
Oh yeah, also to get the extra boss in EoSD and PCB you just have to beat it without using any continues on normal or higher, yes?
yes
oh yea i forgot, I know how to declare your spellcard in IaMP but how do you actually use it?
236D
I've heard a quote/saying associated with Youmu that's like "The things they can't cut are next to nothing!" and I wanted to know if that was game dialogue or a fandom thing or what.It's canon; she says it in PCB to the heroine right before her boss battle
I'd also really like it if someone explained "Girls are preparing, please wait warmly" because I hear that all the time.That's the standard Touhou loadscreen
It's canon; she says it in PCB to the heroine right before her boss battle
That's the standard Touhou loadscreen
Why does EVERYONE follow Reimu's danmaku battle rules no matter the circumstances?
I know that most residents of Gensokyo follow the rules to be able to fight with the shrine maiden on equal grounds without risking the Hakurei border, but what about Utsuho when she was trying to invade and let hell's fire loose on the above-ground world? Against Reimu, Utsuho might be following rules to keep the border. Against Marisa... I don't see any reason.
Maybe Yukari was involved in making sure that the danmaku battle rules are observed???
Toyosatomimi no miko's aura.. i wonder what it is... a flower or what?
If you could change anything in the world wouldn't you be overpowered? Let's just stay that Gaps and Gaps and keep it that way...Even if a character was overpowered, your powers are limited to "how this is useful and what importance it has in Gensokyo" and danmaku. It doesn't matter.
This is not a question if she can. Just what would happen.simply put it would probably create a dimensional mesh and all the objects would occupy the same space
"If yukari put her hand thought a gap, and it came out in 3 seprate portals, and each grabed a diffrent object, what would happen when she pulled her hand back?"
I have a question,Well, first of all, that isn't quite the kind of question this thread is for, but it seems to follow the frankly fallacious premise that "someone has control over a particular domain" necessarily means "someone has unlimited control over a particular domain." Just because Yukari has control over boundaries doesn't mean "if it could concievably count as a boundary, by any form of logic, Yukari can manipulate it by any definition of 'manipulate' in any way she wants, with ease." (She needed Reimu's help to cause the titular Imperishable Night, for instance.)
If you could change anything in the world wouldn't you be overpowered? Let's just stay that Gaps and Gaps and keep it that way...
The way I've always seen Yukari is that while her ability is theoretically infinite, she herself is not.Yeah, that's pretty much what I was saying.
Even though I believe that she is the rightful God of Hakurei, there are still limits to what she is capable of. For instance, while she was the brains behind the Great Hakurei Barrier, Yuyuko says its construction was beyond her alone. The Gensokyo Chronicle backs this up, saying there were other youkai sages and the dragon god involved.There were apparently a whole bunch of other humans involved, too~ (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Highly_Responsive_to_Prayers/Translation/Prologue)
There's also a fabric that exists which is so thick that Yukari can't pass through it. Toyohime uses it to tie Yukari up in Silent Sinner in Blue, and the Suwa shrine is defended by that fabric also (which is likely why Suwako says to Yukari that her shrine has no holes Yukari can sneak into in her Touhou Hisoutensoku win quote) (like most ZUN things, this fabric actually exists in real life apparently and is at the real world Suwa Shrine, though of course ZUN probably took some liberties)I wonder, could this be a Shimenawa (The thing that Kanako has on her back, that is also in front of the Suwa shrine in the form of a HUGE knot)?
Basically the reason why she could do it now and not then is because the boundary was complex and she couldn't figure out how to wiggle it open. Once she was able to figure out how it became much easier.
Is Flandre really insane? Her dialogues in the Aya interviews suggest that she is actually capable of holding a conversation without blowing stuff up, and isn't spouting crazy nonsense.This is actually a pet peeve of mine, so copypaste time.
Flandre stays in the basement of her own volition because she respects her sister and looks up to her as a motherly figure. It would be easy for her to break out at any time. Remilia holds frequent parties, and Flandre comes out at these times as well; she isn't as bound as most people think she is. Remilia is slowly training her to use her powers on a smaller scale as to not become a menace to the peaceful world they moved to. She doesn't tell Flandre that she eats people because Flan would likely not know any better and flatten the human villages without a second thought. Without human blood to feed on, they would likely both die; so this is necessary for their survival.
She taught her the spell card system, which she actually uses when playing with the heroines, and Remilia fated a meteor to enter Gensokyo's orbit so that Flan could destroy it. While many people think of Remilia as a spoiled bitch, she may be, but she is looking out for her sister and is keeping her powers under control in the best possible way she can. Whether is was out of fear for her life and for others is a different matter entirely. Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. If Flan wasn't insane to begin with, her powers could have likely driven her to her current state, as well as keeping out of contact with people for many, many years. Social contact is the main influence for people to mature, which Flan did not have. As such, she is burdened with a childish mind, and when she's in the basement her imagination can run wildly, which would also be a large factor.
Flan, if let outdoors, would be able to catch her own food easily, as she would just kill random humans as she pleased, whether she's insane or not. It's her social ineptitude that makes her unable to care for herself and have such a dependence on her sister; as it was probably planned by Remilia in the first place. If Flan's power was that unstable, then making her dependent on the only person who can control her is the perfect way to keep her in check. Flandre respects Remilia more than anyone else and Remilia takes advantage of that to keep her still.
Flandre is obviously more childish than Remilia. If not shown by the dialogue in-game that Remilia is actually fairly civilized as opposed to Flandre, it's also shown in PMiSS and BAiJR. Yes, Remilia is childish, but only in the sense that she might whine or cry when something bad happens, or that she's a bit self-centered. Mostly, she's fairly mature and put-together. The entire reason people call Flan insane to begin with is that nearly any time she's introduced, she will destroy something because of her childlike state of mind and unstable powers, and nobody can see beyond that because they're afraid of her. The difference between Remilia being insane and Flandre being insane isn't because Flandre actually is insane, but because Remilia has been exposed to social interaction her entire life (500 years is enough to act fairly civilized, one would think) and her powers aren't destructive enough to blow up a meteor.
The reason Flan doesn't mind being down in the basement all the time is because ever since she was five she's been locked up. It's what she has done her entire life. She is let out on some occasions, but these are probably regarded as privileges and a special treat, not the basement being a punishment. She looks up to her sister and does what Remilia thinks is best for her, which is probably true.
Flan's behaviour is much like a child; and what would a child do with the power to destroy? They would end up weaving a path of destruction, most likely. Calling it ADHD would be a misdiagnosis. Her psychological and social development is stunted and her powers make her dangerous, but she is not insane. The respect she holds for her sister at the very least shows that she isn't just a maniac. Without her destructive powers, what would she be? Just an "everyday" vampire. There would be no need to keep her in the basement, she would not be socially underdeveloped, and she would probably sit at Remilia's right hand. She would not be dubbed insane.
I conclude that her powers are the entire problem, Flan as a result has a childlike psyche and she is in fact, not insane.
Here's another way of thinking about it. Remilia can manipulate fate. Flandre obeying her and staying in the basement is accomplished because Remilia uses her powers to control Flan' fate. Flan never questioning what she eats, Flan coming up only when Remilia wants her to and respecting Remilia in general: is all controlled by her powers. Why do you think they moved to Gensokyo? Why does Flan only escape from the mansion immediately after the heroines defeats Remilia, and the heroines just so happen to be there on the day Flan gets loose? Think about it.
Also, what would have happened if Youmu actually did manage to collect enough spring for the Saigyou Ayakashi to bloom? What would Yuyuko be like?
Well ... Reimu couldn't fly under her own power in the PC-98 games, so there's at least some special-ness about it. For Rinnosuke in particular, I kind of want to say "no," but I'm not sure this has been explicitly stated one way or the other.in CoLA chapters, he never flies, but i don?t know if is because he don?t like it (he don?t like the danmaku fighting, so flashy) or he can?t. when go to Moenzuka he walks...he have more interest in obtain a shikingami for help him in his dairy works, the traditional or the "outside world" ones. (And now who im thinking, he don?t like to much bright lights, maybe is something with his half breed condition. Or with his eyes.)
Are there any characters in Touhou that can't fly?Akyu claims in PMiSS that "even without wings we can all fly", although Akyu isn't necessarily the most reliable source.
Reimu flies through orbs and badassness, Magicians fly through magic, Vampires have wings, ghosts float, Suika turns into a fogbank and goes whereever she wants, but what about the others? Can Rinnosuke fly, for instance?
Akyu isn't the most reliable source, but that's only regarding things you shouldn't expect her to know (mainly things to do with the afterlife, long-past history, outside world, or other stuff you just can't expect a human being to know. And the only reason the first three are unreliable is because the Ministry of Right and Wrong and Yukari are sometimes lying through their teeth). In regards to "We can all fly", presumably she's speaking of something that's common knowledge.
I'm pretty sure anyone with enough spiritual power can fly in Gensokyo, unless they have some other thing that would make them a rare exception. For example, Flandre's wings don't work. Sakuya's time stop isn't what enables her flight. Same with Mokou's hourai elixir or Kaguya's relics (Kaguya actually needs items to use spell cards) or power of eternity. They're all able to fly, anyways.
Also, yea, one of Marisa's profiles or something says she can fly just fine without her broom. She just uses it cause it's a witch thing.
Iku's heavenly garments apparently have the power to grant flight though. Not sure if this means Iku can't fly without her magical clothes or not.
Only the comments for IN, StB and DS (and Grimoire of Marisa) are by ZUN. The rest are quite well done, but fanmade.Thanks for the reply!
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what the hell how could you get a random mess of katakana out of cyrillicKatakana was in my e-mail.
google translate says something that i would take to mean "garbage for little fags" so you might as well just delete it
おてんば恋娘 (Otenba Koimusume, lit. "Tomboyish Girl in Love"; translated "Beloved Tomboyish Daughter" on the English patch)So my guess is either
Ten desires have many confusing backstory:
1) where is seiga at the time miko was asleep at the mausoleum or also sealed?
2) Is soga really an ally? From her profile she seems to still hate taoism and futo. Then she came to hate buddhism, how did she hate buddhism?
3) How did her mausoleum ended up in gensokyo, what power did she use to make her mausoleum move without using yukari's power?
On the way to Gensokyo he turned into the little girl and so took on a different name, obviously.
Just call her Miko; her character is based entirely on Shoutoku and is supposed to be him as a touhou. ZUN even mentions this being odd in Sanae's parallel end.
- He also admitted that Youmu is actually younger than 60, and jokes she could be either 52 or a little bit more.I am not sure if Zun admitted it or not, but it seems like a safe assumption that she is under 60, since she does not seem know about the
- The only friends Yukari had (that cared about her for real) were the Konpaku (yes, they were alive back then), and Yuyuko herself.I assume Suika is friends with Yukari, since Suika seems to know Yukari well enough.
There's also one about Eirin being over a million years old, but that one is obviously false because ZUN was drunk when he said that.This one sounds plausible. Eirin has been alive since who knows when. If you can believe her speech with Remilia it would imply
Little children like you have no way to stand a chance against me, an eternal being.
Your history of scarlet...
Divided by my history, the result is zero.
Umm, sorry, hi there, pretentious Touhou fan here.
Is there a thread where one could create their own little original Touhou character for the heck of it? I honestly would like to see what everyone here could come up with and how they would all fit in with the rather fragmented Touhou canon.
I was on Tv Tropes the other day, browsing through the Touhou Character sheet when all of a sudden, I saw the trope "Bifauxnen" under Futo's profile. I mean come on, she wears a skirt. And she has a pony-tail.
How is it possible for them to call her a bifauxnen?
If you'll recall Hele posted one of his Danmakufu videos on Nico way back when and the commenters yelled at him for using SFX/GFX from the original games.Ah, yes, I remember that now.
I believe there's fanmade sound/graphics libraries made for use with Danmakufu specifically to avoid using ZUN's original work.
ZUN had given an interview in Chara☆Mel Febri volume 9 which reveals more about the characters, music of the game and Ten Desires in general.Is a translated version of the interview available anywhere?
Anyway, what's with people referring to Minamitsu by her last name more than her first name? Thanks in advance!i thought her first name was "motherfucking"
What does this say?dropped/rejected/failed map
So what is a fire rat and how do you make a robe from it?Burn it. Kill it. Skin it.
Yukari is (17), supposedly.
Yukari is (17), supposedly.
Someone told me that Nitori is 2 but why?Maybe because "ni" sounds similar to 2 in Japanese? :derp:
Maybe because "ni" sounds similar to 2 in Japanese? :derp:
On that note, 8 could represent Kanako. (Byakuren and Eirin are also possible candidates.)
I was just asking if it was true that Orin took the bodies soon after, or if that is incorrect.Well, she wouldn't have been doing that while they were all still underground before SA, right? Plus, going above ground to find some bodies sounds like a lot of effort; I doubt that she goes back and forth that often.
Was [Unknown Flower, Mesmerizing Journey] sold out?It's possible since I don't remember it being high in print, but you could always ask Forza (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,566.0.html).
I'm planning on a big official Touhou products collection and it would be nice to have this "bonus".
Other question:End of life as in? It's still very much canon, if that's what you mean, even with Post-Myst coming.
Have PMiSS really reached it's End-Of-Life?
End of life as in? It's still very much canon, if that's what you mean, even with Post-Myst coming.
Extra: Is it possible if Fanon Meiling is a panda youkai? From the sheer slackery yet fearsome power(and other traits), could it make sense?
Does Yukari beat up Ran?yes (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Bohemian_Archive_in_Japanese_Red/Yukari)
In th08, One of Kaguya's last spells and Youmu's last word mentions the term 待宵.
Tried to find the meaning in many places, but nothing turned out.
What does it actually mean, and where can I find the evidence?
The calculations to determine the date of the paschal full moon are somewhat complex, but can be described briefly as follows: Nineteen civil calendar years are divided into 235 lunar months of 30 and 29 days each (the so-called "ecclesiastical moon".) The period of 19 years (the metonic cycle) is used because it produces a set of civil calendar dates for the ecclesiastical moons that repeats every nineteen years while still providing a reasonable approximation to the astronomical facts. The first day of each of these lunar months is the ecclesiastical new moon. Exactly one ecclesiastical new moon in each year falls on a date between March 8 and April 5, both inclusive. This begins the paschal lunar month for that year, and thirteen days later is the paschal full moon. Easter is the Sunday following the paschal full moon. In other words, Easter falls from one to seven days after the paschal full moon, so that if the paschal full moon is on Sunday, Easter is the following Sunday.
"Paschal Moon" (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Imperishable_Night/Spell_Cards/Stage_6B#Spell_Card_175)In other words, it's the reason behind Easter being on a different Sunday each year.
Which apparently means (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paschal_Full_Moon):
It isn't an actual war. Humans were flying to the moon, planting flags and acting as if they "owned" the moon. Furthermore they're planning on building a moon base, and other such things. The Lunarians saw this as an act against them and decided to "go to war". Really, humanity has no idea that the Lunarians are on the moon, because of the Lunarians' barrier. The Lunarians, likewise, are unaware that the humans are unaware of their existence, and treat the lunar landings and expeditions as invasions. Nothing suggests that there was actually a battle taken place on any of the Lunar wars, despite the rabbits' claims otherwise.This makes a lot of sense. But there wasn't something floating around about Armstrong (the astronaut) actually leading an invasion on the moon?
The rabbits' actions, instead, were likely to tear down the flag that was left by Apollo 11. That was their "warfare". After this, Reisen escaped the Capital and came to Gensokyo. Presumably, she brought the flag, since it's currently in Kaguya's possession. The funny part is that the Lunar Capital didn't know what caused the flag to disappear, and that among other odd events caused the Capital to become suspicious for a possible traitor. Their first suspicions were the Watatsuki sisters, and this unfolding of events is what caused the second "Lunar War" that starts the events of Imperishable Night. The suspicion of the Watatsuki sisters is also part of why they later came to Gensokyo in the first place.
Awesome. It'd be nice if there were more accessible links to the article, or perhaps that there were more reasons for people to actually look for the Moon page. I had no idea it existed.
I think it's this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFRbvgCQ8jcl (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFRbvgCQ8jcl) although I think it is a vocal remix of Heian Alien not UFO Romance in the Night Sky, so im not too sureNo, that's not the one, but thanks for the help anyway. I'm 100% sure it's UFO Romance in the Night Sky. It's unmistakable.
Alice used to be human. I would guess that learning some magic lets you do it. It's probably voluntary as well, or Mokou would have become one already.Mokou and Kaguya would by all rights be Youkai (or Gods, or Celestials, or whatever) today if they were not "frozen" by the Hourai Elixir as "humans". This is how I understand them.
But humans are animals too :V
Doesn't a human who gets enough 'belief' invested in them also become supernaturally qualified?
Hi, can someone help me with a translation to add to the wiki? (Although you're free to add the translation to the wiki directly if you'd rather do that instead)
http://en.touhouwiki.net/images/5/5d/ThGKPartII.png
What does the writing on the book that Renko is holding say? Alas, google translate doesn't work with pictures (not that a google translation would be a good thing to use for the wiki, anyways). Thanks in advance!
....interestingly enough, this is technically the first time Renko's ever been officially depicted with another Touhou character besides Maribel (although Maribel's there too).
日本のパワースポット大全。
Japan's Power Spots Encyclopedia.
Youkai (妖怪) is a term mostly associated with Japanese folk creatures and ghosts. The term can also apply broadly to anything that is a supernatural being or legend, from any culture. Because there are thousands of stories of magical beings around the world, the different types of youkai are endless.http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Youkai
Well, pretty much every form of localizations uses "demon" in place "youkai", so I guess you can say that it's as closest as you can get when referring to the likes of Rumia, Mystia, Tewi, etc.
Chinese for "youkai" is compromised of two characters: "enchanted" and "strange". Such a term indeed is used in Chinese localizations when referring to "youkai", but nowadays, it seems to mean more of monsters and demons in general. It may even be used for calling someone who is cruel and heartless, basically calling them a monster or a demon...
Anyway, some of you might know this already, but I'd like to point it out again just in case... Unless it's an important term like Youkai Mountain, I always use the term "demon", not "youkai". I prefer sticking to commonly-used English terms for common words.
Someone commented that s/he doesn't want to read a my latest Touhou fanfic because I use "demon" instead of "youkai", and then s/he says that dubs aren't always correct or something along those lines, so I thought I wanted to ask for clarification between those two terms here.
so basically the only reason you asked was for affirmation that you could think of that critic as an idiotI never thought of him/her as anything like that.
and then when pointed out you aren't really correct you just fell back to "well i'm using it anyways"
way to go
especially if you're going to use fansubs as your justification since most fansubbers are one of the last groups of people I'd credit with thoroughly thought-out translations.I'm not using fansubs as my justification. I'm using official dubs and localizations as my justifications. Series like Yu Yu Hakusho, Inuyasha, and Okami all use "demons".
I'm not using fansubs as my justification. I'm using official dubs and localizations as my justifications. Series like Yu Yu Hakusho, Inuyasha, and Okami all use "demons".
EDIT: It's just me, but I don't really find Asian language mixing well with English, hence the reason I try to use English translations for them as much as possible. European language, on the other hand, I have no issue with, so to my memory, I pretty much always leave them alone. Must have to do with English language taking most of its roots from European languages...
True, but borrowing a foreign word for the purpose of not using a foreign word whose meaning you cannot nail with terms your native language offers you sounds like a bit too much effort.I fully agree, especially since 'youkai' is not outside the range of unrecognizable cultural tropes these days. There's plenty of English translations - official or not - that do use it as-is without translating it to subpar analogues like 'demon'. Rosario+Vampire, for instance (as 'yokai' since apparently the macron or 'ou' expansion is too confusing to sort out; but then again, the same thing happens with Touhou - you use Toho, macrons or not, and you're likely referring to the company that produces Godzilla movies and anime).
I'm not using fansubs as my justification. I'm using official dubs and localizations as my justifications. Series like Yu Yu Hakusho, Inuyasha, and Okami all use "demons".I had a feeling it was those series' treatment of the word that was sparking this. I remember the little flare of controversy over Inuyasha, and quite frankly had the translators done a better job of maintaining the nuance and used 'youkai' (considering all the other types of descriptive Japanese words that had to be used for things) then that little spat would never have happened.
This is reminding me of the "nakama" debate, where people debated whether that term should be left untranslated or translated into "comrade"... The former is favored, apparently...That case is different because the 'comrade' translation is accurate and the only 'justification' for leaving it untranslated is to have gratuitous Japanese for obnoxious teenagers to litter their speech with. And that's as far as I can go on the topic of unnecessary buzzwording while staying polite. Outside of a couple of shounen titles people get all worked up about, 'comrade' is the usual/preferred translation (if it even pops up at all).
Kamikaze, shanghai, teriyaki, sushi, bamboo, geisha and countless other Asian words are already a part of the English language. They came into the language because instead of trying to translate them (e.g. "shanghai" instead of "kidnap someone and force them to work on board a ship") people realized you could just use the Asian word and people will know what you mean.I know about those words, but the difference with them is that they are established words that found their way into dictionaries, so I'm all right with them. "Youkai" isn't one of them, hence the reason I'm not comfortable with using it and thus prefer using the term that is widely used in localizations.
Trust me on this. Just use "youkai". The English word "demon" is far too narrow, and thus inaccurate.
Please do tell me this, then: Is one in the wrong if s/he uses phantom, ghost, ship ghost, grim reaper, and zombies instead of yuurei, bourei, funyuurei, shinigami, and jiang-shi, respectively?Phantom and ghost are special cases that are only relevant in the touhou fandom, and have little to do with romanization vs translation. ZUN makes a point of differentiating yuurei and bourei in PCB, and explicitly defines the difference between Yuyuko and other "ghosts". For that reason, the english fandom needed two different terms for them. Before the distinction was pointed out, we just called them all ghosts, because for all intents and purposes "ghost" is a perfect translation for yuurei. English speakers can see "ghost" and know immediately what it is, and the finer points of yuurei versus "western ghosts" are defined throughout the series along with PMiSS. With the distinction of bourei being a different class of ghosts, it was decided that Yuyuko and bourei would be called "ghost" because bourei still have a body of sorts, and the whole situation with leaving a corpse and whatnot fits a western ghost more than it does wispy yuurei, who aren't exactly created by a person dying. Their appearance was a large reason why the term "phantom" was used. "Spirit" might have been another choice but that would be much too vague considering many youkai are spirits and other problems (similar to why demon doesn't work for youkai).
It depends on the audience. If you are going for accessibility, translate it. Basic English rules say that if foreign words can be easily translated, using the foreign word instead of an English term is incorrect. However, if you are writing for English-speaking anime/manga fans, you can get away with not translating it, as it then is a part of the jargon for that audience, akin to me using ethanol with chemists as opposed to alcohol with drinking buddies.One does have to take into consideration the limits of accessibility, regardless of how easily a word can be translated. Think of the different types of German sausage - most have precise translations into English, but even amongst those not into German cuisine or language, they still use the German names. Anything ending in 'wurst' (Liverwurst, Blutwurst, etc.) tends to get this treatment, or more exotically, Braunschweiger. It means 'Brunswick sausage' (the 'er' implies the sausage in this case; Brunswick is the English name of Braunschweig the same way that Munich is the English name of M?nchen, or Bavaria<=>Bayern). Nobody uses the English name, though, and instead they use the German one (however badly they end up mispronouncing it in the process).
But then again, I lost this argument 15 years ago, when literal translation became the norm.
Now, as I don't speak Japanese, would someone like to explain why "monster" may/may not be a decent choice for youkai? Just to satisfy curiosity. Seems a better fit, or at least less loaded, than demon.This is coming from my small absorption of Japanese, but it would be a much better fit, as the concept of a 'monster' being neutral is more acceptable than a 'demon' being neutral, but it tends to imply that the subject is still noticeably not human, and with youkai, some appear to be perfectly human until their more monstrous abilities or traits emerge. Not to mention that even if several of the species in Touhou are at least partially of the classical 'monster' archetype as Westerners would be familiar with (vampires, were-creatures, and what all...), most of them aren't.
The dispute in the anime/manga grouping is that to go into it expecting not to see Japanese culture, and therefore not encounter Japanese words or phrases, is a disservice - if not an insult - to the original media, as it would be with any bit of media that gets translated from one language to another. At its worst it leads to writing with invisible chalk and other culture bleaching that occurred in the old days of heavy censorship in localized anime. It goes back to the original point: accessibility is good if the series would naturally be successful, but how much is too much in the attempt to make the niche properties 'accessible'?
It's not like "demon" is 100% wrong and inaccurate. It may not be the best replacement for "youkai", but the concept and meaning behind the former is still there to some extent, so I don't really see it as the wrong word.
Let me first say again that I already lost this argument in the greater anime culture a long time ago. With the exception of words that would take a full paragraph to explain, I expect to see no Japanese at all. I disagree with the idea of disservice; read a translation of Xenophon, Machiavelli, Homer, Livy, Caesar, or Sun Tzu and you don't find the inclusion of Greek, Italian, Latin, or Chinese in the translation except for proper names and words that would require a small essay to adequately define. This is what the conventions of my language have brought me up to expect, with the underlying assumption that if I needed to know exactly what is being said, I should learn the original language each was written in.I agree. My point was about expectations of culture more than it was about language. It was the assumption by domestic licensors that American audiences can't stand to know that the show they're watching was Japanese in origin and therefore any incidental exposure or reference to Japan, its language, writing systems, or culture must be removed and replaced with Western equivalents or simply written out of the script that I was illustrating as taking the concept too far. In the cases of the Classics, the elements of their cultures are still present in the work, instead of replaced with local ones - you still know that it was within the framework of Greek, Roman, or Chinese society, even if the translation contains few loanwords.
I see the use of Japanese in English by anime fans as a type of jargonOh, I get annoyed by this too, but I differentiate between fans littering their speech with gratuitous Japanese and the case of using a loanword here or there if it fits or supplying a more direct translation of an idiom rather than substituting a local one (and the words in question generally differ anyway). The former is bad (fluent English speakers deliberately using seiyuu instead of 'voice actor' practically makes my blood boil because it just sounds stupid), the latter is questionable - sometimes appropriate, sometimes not.
I'll agree to disagree. I have to. As I said, I've already lost this argument in the greater subculture. And this is not the place to vent my frustrations about translation sins that I have yet to see members on this board commit.Very well. I suspect my opinions on the topic don't really fit either side of the debate entirely, nor could I hope to place myself accurately in the spectrum that exists between them.
I can in the very least guarantee that zombie is the exact translation for jiang-shi, for in Chinese, jiang-shi refers to both Western and Chinese zombies.
Let me comment on this one. As a chinese speaker, I am fairly sure that zombie is not the same as jiang-shi. While the concept is somewhat the same, as in they are corpses that are raised from the dead. There are huge differences between a zombie and a jiang-shi.Even so, you can't deny the fact that in China/Taiwan, people say "jiang-shi" regardless of whether they see the Western or Chinese variation.
The following is what I see in movies, so correct me if I am wrong on this. Jiang-shi are sometimes sentient. They are also more similar to vampires than zombies. They are weak to garlic, and they generally cannot see, so they detect by sensing your breath. Holding your breath is one of the ways to avoid detection by them. They disintegrate upon seeing sunlight. Some of them can fly too or something.
@Eirin:
I don't think she is immortal in the sense that she can still die from fatal wounds. But I am fairly sure she will not die from aging.
The main reason why I don't think that she is immortal is because she can go to the Netherworld. I am fairly sure that neither Kaguya nor Mokou can go there.
Mokou never explicitly states they cannot enter the Netherworld. She says (quote taken from Ghost Team Extra):
"Ghosts without a soul cannot be born...
People who can't die cannot know the world of the dead."
This is a metaphorical statement - just like those who live "know the world of the living."
"Unless of course you're referring to the next to last sentence (that being "Humans can't get there without dying.")
Considering that Eirin is not human (lunarian and now goddess), it's not farfetched to say that she doesn't have to abide by that.
Also, that statement is discredited by the events of Perfect Cherry Blossom where three humans actually engage Yuyuko in the Netherworld (Sakuya, Reimu, Marisa are all human)."
Remilia: Next, I'll try to die.
Reimu: I was woken up late at night and attacked... What a nuisance.
Remilia: I take the initiative tomorrow, so listen to me.
Reimu: OK, OK. You're supreme.
Remilia: Now, I'll go die for a while.
@Eirin and Hourai Elixir: I can't say I agree that it is confirmed that Eirin drank the Elixir. If the translation is any good, there is good indication that they are talking trash to each other.
Then what about the supposed confirmation of her not drinking the potion in one of the books? That was mentioned in her page at the Wiki, but now it's no longer there. Guess that's misinformation?
As for immortals not being able to enter the Netherworld, I thought it was always like... Only those who are capable of dying can go in there. Sure, you may be able to step in there while you are alive, but that's only because you are capable of dying. However, since immortals cannot die, they cannot go in there. There's a difference between someone who will eventually die and someone who can never die.
How else would you interpret Eirin saying "I have taken the medicine which I made through the Princess's power," followed by ZUN's caveat about how Yuyuko regards "immortal humans created by the Hourai Elixir" as her enemy - which he added to the end of a conversation between Yuyuko and Eirin? That sounds pretty clear to me.
The thing on Sanae's neck. What is it called, what does it do? (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/File:ThGKSanae.png)It's also seen in her UFO portrait. Sorry, I have no idea.
Kaguya is but another human forced to change where she lives [i.e. on the run]. Knowing that Kaguya is [in] the same [situation] as her, Mokou felt her drive/rage suddenly went away.
The thing on Sanae's neck. What is it called, what does it do? (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/File:ThGKSanae.png)
It's also seen in her UFO portrait. Sorry, I have no idea.Oh, the cover art of Symposium shows it to be a metallic necklace. We can still ask: which real life object is it inspired by?
Mokou's known for not taking care of her body. "Screw it, I can just get another," seems to be her attitude. Chances are that she hasn't been eating much or well before that.I know that's a popular idea. But I think it's also generally accepted that Mokou is an expert on healthy food? (I'm not saying either is correct.)
All she says is, "I'm a health nut that runs a yakitori stand."Anyway, what I'm asking for is confirmation on the "after IN Extra Stage, Mokou's entire body feels sore" thing.
You can ask the same question about Miko and Futo, and probably all of the other underground youkai from SA and UFO.
I know that's a popular idea. But I think it's also generally accepted that Mokou is an expert on healthy food? (I'm not saying either is correct.)Anyway, what I'm asking for is confirmation on the "after IN Extra Stage, Mokou's entire body feels sore" thing.
You can, but only if you go into near-earth orbit and drop straight down into Gensokyo.So that means you have to "crash through the barrier" from space?
So that means you have to "crash through the barrier" from space?he was being sarcastic
There would be no point in Eirin taking the Hourai Elixir if she's really a goddess, right? Someone says that deities will die if they lack faith, so Eirin, despite being a goddess, took it in order to become a true immortal.
Thanks in advance!
*confused face*Hakurei is the name of the family that takes care of the Hakurei Shrine. Miko is the job that they do, taking care of the shrine.
so...that means its official or fan-made character?Hakurei Miko refers to the entire line, only one Hakurei Miko's name is known, Reimu's. The rest are referred to with their succession in the Hakurei line, like the Thirteenth Hakurei Miko.
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Touhou_Soccer_Moushuuden:_Hakurei_MikoAh, then you should have pointed out where you found her, and I don't think so, as she might refer to the pc-98 system which ZUN himself had dismissed. My sempai might have a different idea though.
There is no evidence (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12776.msg839260.html#msg839260) beyond wild speculation that Eirin is a goddess, and she conclusively did take the Hourai Elixir (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,8344.msg836584.html#msg836584).I know... Just that some people are very sure that she is a goddess...
Even though it's confirmed that she's taken the elixir, there's still one thing that doesn't seem right... The Hourai Elixir makes you immune to sicknesses if you take it two times. If Eirin is truly immortal, then she must've taken it three times, and that would make her sick-proof too. However, in the Inaba manga, she is shown to be able to fall sick, unless one argues that the manga shouldn't be taken seriously...If I recall, ZUN doesn't actually write the Inaba manga, despite the "writer" title on the wiki. He just let Arata use the characters and setting and gives him reign for comedic benefit [citation needed]. He just fixes something if it's glaringly wrong, and Eirin getting sick in a gag manga is something easily overlooked. Yes, I would actually argue it shouldn't be taken seriously.
That would means no tiers can possibly exist since Cirno has a chance to win just as much as she would against Flandre...The only way there can be no "danmaku tiers" is if all the patterns were exactly the same, which they obviously aren't. Never mind that a character's relative intelligence would most likely affect what kind of patterns they'd come up with in the first place.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that for example Utsuho could just spontaneously cause the nuclear force between a person's cells to go utterly haywire and basically turn people into A-bombs on the spot. Of course, that would require Utsuho to be capable of being that devious and therefore not bird-brained. :VWhy would she need to if she could blow up anything else like she was sort of originally planning to do?
On a similar note someone at another forum that if she wanted to Cirno could cause the heat death of the universe at will. Cirno is not exactly quite intelligent enough to understand a concept as complicated as the heat death of the universe, though. :Vi have to keep reminding people to stop throwing complex physics concepts into gensokyo and going "look this applies"
Why would she need to if she could blow up anything else like she was sort of originally planning to do?
i have to keep reminding people to stop throwing complex physics concepts into gensokyo and going "look this applies"
thinking like that is an ultra-extrapolation of a character's abilities that have never ever been shown to do anything remotely the same
and even then, someone like yukari who you could propose could do anything, also has limits to her ability despite how incredible it is
I was going over the Spellcard rules and read that "characters abilities must not be used to the fullest extent"完全な実力主義を否定する。 A literal translation would be "pure determination-by-true-strength(/merit/competency) is denied". In other words, having greater power doesn't guarantee victory. The current translation gets at the spirit of the rule from another angle, but...
On a similar note someone at another forum that if she wanted to Cirno could cause the heat death of the universe at will. Cirno is not exactly quite intelligent enough to understand a concept as complicated as the heat death of the universe, though. :VThis misses the point on what the fairies are: anthromorphized natural phenomenon. Cirno is an avatar of ordinary ice that naturally occurs on earth, not something as extreme as say, the 3K background temperature of space. She can't even freeze the surface layer of the entire lake.
[Reimu's] death would mean the end of Gensokyo and of said youkai as well.I'm now having doubts about this generally accepted idea. In SSiB, when Reimu hadn't returned from the moon, Aya's reaction was, "we may need to choose another shrine maiden". Either Aya, a tengu more than 1000 years old somehow doesn't know how the Hakurei shrine maiden functions (which isn't inconceivable), or there is in fact no Hakurei bloodline (the canon never said there is one), and all shrine maidens are adopted and can be replaced.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that for example Utsuho could just spontaneously cause the nuclear force between a person's cells to go utterly haywire and basically turn people into A-bombs on the spot. Of course, that would require Utsuho to be capable of being that devious and therefore not bird-brained. :V
Utsuho could control nuclear fusion, but to use it in practical
applications she had to get certain atoms from the mountain god.
This misses the point on what the fairies are: anthromorphized natural phenomenon. Cirno is an avatar of ordinary ice that naturally occurs on earth, not something as extreme as say, the 3K background temperature of space. She can't even freeze the surface layer of the entire lake.
So Utsuho's power is strictly controlling fusion. She can't just make any random atoms go fusion, and has to rely on Kanako giving her certain atoms (hydrogen isotypes? fission materials?).
Ooooh, okay, so she can only freeze/chill things that can be frozen/chilled normally. I gotcha.She freezes fire in Fairy Wars, as well as whatever most bullets are made of.
I'm now having doubts about this generally accepted idea. In SSiB, when Reimu hadn't returned from the moon, Aya's reaction was, "we may need to choose another shrine maiden". Either Aya, a tengu more than 1000 years old somehow doesn't know how the Hakurei shrine maiden functions (which isn't inconceivable), or there is in fact no Hakurei bloodline (the canon never said there is one), and all shrine maidens are adopted and can be replaced.
As it would be dangerous for any youkai to defeat the Hakurei shrine maiden, many youkai felt that their existences had become meaningless.
And so the spell card rules were introduced.
I disagree with the assumption that because canon never said there is a Hakurei bloodline, it does not exist. Until there is reasonable belief on its non-existence, you cannot assume either way. This is akin to saying that because canon does not state Bura-Bura (paper latern) youkai to exist, they do not exist. For this example, you would generally assume these types of youkai do exist in Gensokyo, as well as various other types of youkai.
I know she went up to the moon with that vampire, but...So she's saying when one Hakurei is gone, someone will be responsible for finding another shrine maiden, and she has seen it happen many times. Still very ambiguous, but if the shrine maiden is passed down in a family, it'd be impossible for Aya to not know, since she has been watching the shrine maidens for so many years.
For some reason, she's the only one who didn't come back.
So... I suppose it'll be time to find another shrine maiden before long.
How many times has it been already?
It would be fine if it's someone who'll make lots of news for my paper, though.
That could simply mean Reimu is the last of the bloodline, too.Hey, this violates Occam's razor :colbert:
Hey, this violates Occam's razor :colbert:
Hey, this violates Occam's razor :colbert:
If there has only ever been one Hakurei bloodline, and now the shrine maiden is missing, that's a crisis far more serious than "I wonder if she would be a good source of news".
If there has been several Hakurei lineages over the history, or if any human in Gensokyo carries the Hakurei blood, so that a replacement can always be found, is it any different from having no Hakurei bloodline at all?
The old PC-98 idea is that there is only one Hakurei clan that can take the responsibility, The idea, originally a reflection of pre-modern society's emphasis on blood relationship, is now just another trope to make the protagonist special. "We can always find another; it has happened many times" undermines this particular trope.
Why the bosses are bigger than the girls that you are playing. For example in this pic her head is almost Reimu's body size. Is she flying higher than you or soon we'll see some game like "Touhou 16: Mystical Flying Giants"?because that's the way it is
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/7KfW5VmZuN0/0.jpg)
Is she flying higher than you or soon we'll see some game like "Touhou 16: Mystical Flying Giants"?
Why the bosses are bigger than the girls that you are playing. For example in this pic her head is almost Reimu's body size. Is she flying higher than you or soon we'll see some game like "Touhou 16: Mystical Flying Giants"?
Why the bosses are bigger than the girls that you are playing. For example in this pic her head is almost Reimu's body size. Is she flying higher than you or soon we'll see some game like "Touhou 16: Mystical Flying Giants"?The need of gameplay (makes bosses easier to see, and allows bosses to have a large hitbox), as well as the need to better convey the boss's character (compare 16-bit RPGs like Final Fantasy VI, where bosses are huge and stylishly drawn, and your party are super-deformed sprites).
What's Miko's and Byakuren's relationship with like?It isn't quite clear, but they seem to be sort of "political rivals" in Symposium.
As in, do they hate each other to the point of being enemies or is it something else?
So is knowing Master Spark or any of its variants a badge of instant badassery or something? :VNot really, the only other user (or rather, the original user) is Yuuka and she isn't really canonically badass per se. Marisa's pretty badass though.
Also, how strong IS Yuuka? I'm confused as to whether it's just "strong magic user" or "strong as in could punch bears to the moon".Probably both.
Number of familiars currently on the screen, and number of familiars that have appeared during the fight that weren't blown up.
Is there more? Technically Tenshi's isn't a laser blast, more like a spirit blast.Gengetsu has one. I feel like Alice has something in one of the fighting games. Also Fairy Destruction Ray, though it's clearly modelled after Master Spark. Then I dunno if you want count Rikako's bomb. To me it looks like a laser that takes up the whole screen, but who knows.
That might be a bit misleading. Shotgunning is sitting in front of the boss so more of your shots will hit the boss, but only because usually your shots are spread in a fan. If you take say ReimuA in SA, there is no shotgunning because her shots don't hit any more often no matter how close you are to the boss.Well some spell you could avoid it moving up, so you can use this faster rate to increase the damage, maybe for example Chen's Blue Oni Red Oni or that spells of Youmu with bullet time.
Moving upwards while shooting is something different; you get the same amount of shots hitting, but just at a faster rate. However, this is almost completely pointless because at some point you'll probably have to move back down.
Anyone have a Zun style Rinnosuke picture?To my knowledge, no such thing exists.
Anyone have a Zun style Rinnosuke picture?
Pretty sure if you search the Morichika_Rinnosuke tag on Danbooru you'll be able to find some.
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q572/madokami1/th_game11_story_jp.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/albums/q572/madokami1/?action=view¤t=game11_story_jp.jpg)You are asking about the backstory for Touhou Pocket War 2. (The game developer being Taiwanese, their Japanese is pretty bad, not that their Chinese is any good...)
Does anyone know what this says?
Try narrowing it down with oota_jun'ya_(style), although there's only one Rinnosuke picture there.Thought he meant official artwork done by ZUN, which doesn't exist.
Try narrowing it down with oota_jun'ya_(style), although there's only one Rinnosuke picture there.No results.
Thought he meant official artwork done by ZUN, which doesn't exist.I'm just looking for any, be it Zun or Zun imitator.
not sure where to post this, so I'll just do it here :v
anyone else having an issue with downloading repays from gensokyo.org? everytime I try to download a replay there, my firefox opens a white window with random glibberish. welp.
Thank you Drake :D And you only want to steal what you love, so for me is valid to use "Love sign" :P
I can't help but feel it would be dangerous to be Marisa's boyfriend. :PI can't help but feel like it would be dangerous to be ANY Touhou character's boyfriend.
But maybe that's just me here. X D
Does anybody know what the bullet limits are in the Touhou games?HRtP - Unknown, probably doesn't matter anyway
I doubt that's the case. The very first wave of bullets shoots 256 and you can graze them all. Although naturally if you're closer to a bunch of enemies, it will be harder to graze every bullet just because you have less space to do so, or you have to move. I'm not sure if I'm grasping what you mean; can you provide replay examples?
Depending on your computer and monitor, yes. Vpatch can do magical wonders for play. And it doesn't really make you better, it just un-hinders you. If you watch replays you might even be able to see the difference.
As far as playing on higher difficulties, many people find it helps them improve, so I guess the answer is yes.
Is this patch a kind of a cheat or it is something official?It's not a cheat, but's not something official, either. It allows you to play the game with the frame-rate it's supposed to have.
What's with Nue and shrimp tempura in fandom?Anyone, please?
Thanks in advance!
I was going to say the same. In fairness, I learned this by Googling "touhou nue shrimp tempura". Front page results, the whole thing is explained in a single Danbooru comment.Yup, I did the same.
It is because her name sounds close to that in japanese so that is why the association is madeI know about this already, and nope, that's not true.
As far as I can tell it's just a wacky ASCII art picture that exploded.Figured it would be because of that pic... Just wanted to clarify.
ほうじゅうぬえ isn't even close to エビフライ or てんぷら though.
As far as I can tell it's just a wacky ASCII art picture that exploded.
ほうじゅうぬえ isn't even close to エビフライ or てんぷら though.
I know about this already, and nope, that's not true.Figured it would be because of that pic... Just wanted to clarify.
Near as I can tell, it's an elegant way to cross one's arms.
That, and you see it a lot in prints involving the divine, celestials, hermits, and the like.
I suppose drawing a character with their hands by their side would be a lot less interesting than if their hands/arms are busy in some way.
I'd advise doing a bit of research rather than taking my word for it, but I've read that the chinese used to keep their money in their sleeves, and keeping one's hands inside one's sleeves meant being able to keep a hand on your money and keep it safe. Hand-fans were also concealed in one's sleeves (reference (http://www.hand-fan.org/chinese_hand_fans.html)) so I guess in a way it's kind of like keeping one's hands in one's pockets.
Well, in the newest CD Izanagi Object ~ Neo-traditionalism of Japan, we've finally been given a specific date regarding the age of myths: Izanagi created the islands of Japan 25 million years ago.
If the order of events is the same as real life mythology, Tsukuyomi should be born and exiled after that.
The Moon War, for those of you who are curious (AKA: No one), was when America landed on the Moon in the Apollo 11 mission in summer 1969. The Lunarians waged war against the unarmed, unprepared Armstrong and Aldrin and canonically lost, despite the two astronauts not having any weapons. Don't ask me, that's actually a part of Touhou canon.
Long ago, the humans had made it to the moon's surface and claimed it as their own by planting a flag. They were probably impressed by their own science and thought the moon really was theirs.
But, if you know where to look, the moon's technological prowess was far beyond that of the Earth's. The humans had spoken of building a base on the moon, but in the end they ran back home before ever deciding on a place or even acquiring the means to do such a thing. It was a terrible defeat for the humans.
The humans' lunar landings were reported as a great success in the outside world, but their failures were not. The humans kept losing after their first landing, so eventually they stopped returning to the moon. And we, who'd remained in contact with the moon, knew how every time they tried to establish a base, they'd failed.
Yeah. Apollo 11 successfully planted the flag on the moon. This, to the Lunarians, was both a declaration of war and something they had "lost". But this was not the "Lunar War" per se, just the beginning; there literally was not any confrontation being done at all. After that, the Lunarians sabotaged every attempt to get back to the moon, including the famous Apollo 13 incident whose cause at the time was unknown. Eirin, of course, gets the credit.
I meant it's implied that Eirin was the one that sabotaged 13 because of her spellcard and a few other lines from elsewhere.
Man, there's too much implying and speculation in Touhou canon.
If ZUN just went out and explained everything like a shounen manga Touhou canon would be much less interesting.
Yeah, I just can't stand being wrong and when people give out a different interpretation than the one I believe in, I'll start questioning myself whether mine is the right one or theirs.
Yeah, I just can't stand being wrong and when people give out a different interpretation than the one I believe in, I'll start questioning myself whether mine is the right one or theirs.
...To come to think about that, person, powerful enough for being an extra boss, has no chance to revenge; while weaker ones could beat them in stories where they aren't main characters (e. g. one about Tenshi playing with weather).Maybe she really deserves a pity? (Let's remember why she'd sealed her 3rd eye.) :3
Delfigamer1 (http://"http://www.youtube.com/user/Delfigamer1") in reply to Koishi Komeiji (http://"http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3T3m5UXbBnaBXv79rRxUgw") 1 second ago
They can't approach a sardine head or a broken holly branch.
Their skin will be burnt if someone throws roasted soybeans at them (*4).
*4: However, they seem to like natto.
I've been wondering about the typical fanon portryals of some characters. Tenshi and Sanae are derpy, Iku is the perfect nanny, etc. But, what about Kasen? Maybe I haven't read enough fancomics, but how do fans typically portray her, as opposed to the harsh kind of person she seems to be in canon? Also, its been a while since I read Wild and Horned Hermit, so I'd also like to know of her personality there, as well.
I'd appreciate answers :)
Why do most of the translators keep the Last Name First Name order of Hong Meiling's name?Well, Chinese names do seem to be the exception to the style guideline of converting to Western name order when used in English. You can see this even in translations of other series that have characters with Chinese names, or even in news broadcasts.
Is it because Meiling's name has a Chinese origin?
Western publications usually preserve the Chinese naming order, with the family name first, followed by the given name.
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The usual presentation of Chinese names in English differs from the usual presentations of modern Japanese names, since modern Japanese names are usually reversed to fit the western order in English.
Well, Chinese names do seem to be the exception to the style guideline of converting to Western name order when used in English. You can see this even in translations of other series that have characters with Chinese names, or even in news broadcasts.Which reminds me that sometimes in fan fictions, you see people referring to Meiling as simply Hong.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_names#Chinese_names_in_English
Okay, in EoSD, because Sakuya can manipulate time why didn't she just stop time, stabbed the heroine's heart and brain, unfreeze time, thus killing them?
2. I don't remember hearing anything about parallel timelines with Kaguya. But if you consider that Kaguya essentially inserted Eientei into an instant in Gensokyo, stayed in that instant for a long time as history passed, and it only recently began "existing", then yes, I guess you could say she can manipulate aspects of reality from the perspective of other people.
3. In Flandre's BAiJR article she outright contradicts her sister's ability to control fate but then Remilia shows up and starts explaining about how she artificially caused a "Leo Meteor Shower" to target the mansion. The article ends with Aya saying "...Oh, my. I wonder how much of that is true". Does that debunk Remilia's ability to control fate?
nothing
that summed up well enough?
Pretty much. Even Reisen's past isn't really a big deal and is mostly brushed off by everyone, especially when you consider the "war" she ran away from didn't really happen as described. If your real point is that she's often picked on, there is no answer or explanation to that. She just happened to become "the character that gets picked on" by coincidence; there is no "karma".
Pretty much. Even Reisen's past isn't really a big deal and is mostly brushed off by everyone, especially when you consider the "war" she ran away from didn't really happen as described. If your real point is that she's often picked on, there is no answer or explanation to that. She just happened to become "the character that gets picked on" by coincidence; there is no "karma".Is that so? Then why does Eiki-sama threaten to send Resien to hell when she dies becuase she ran away from the war?
Is that so? Then why does Eiki-sama threaten to send Resien to hell when she dies becuase she ran away from the war?
Because Shieki is a strict, STRICT mofo.But when I read her dialogue she's like strict and honest in a harsh-kind way.
But when I read her dialogue she's like strict and honest in a harsh-kind way.
I figure she's honest but irritatingly overbearing like Sam the Eagle from The Muppet Show. :VOkay, that is just confusing :getdown:
Also, she tells Yuuka that she needs to scare humans more so her job is arguably as much of maintaining the status quo in Gensokyo as much as keeping people from dooming themselves to Hell, lest Gensokyo violently implode in on itself in an apopletic poof of rationality/normalcy. :getdown:
Okay, that is just confusing :getdown:
Why does everyone have a 4chan banner? :)Birthday-related shenanigans courtesy of one of the staffers.
I don't think the names of songs actually mean anything significant, especially the parts that are in English (ZUN's grasp of which is somewhat notoriously shaky).Ehh yeah, japanese guys have the power of create cool english words that has no meaning :V
It means that Satori really really wanted to watch Supernatural but Koishi really wanted to watch The Office and Satori was all KOISHI I AM GOING TO WATCH SUPERNATURAL AND THAT'S FINAL and Koishi was all SCREW THE POLICE I DO WHAT I WANT and Satori kicked Koishi out of the Palace but not before Koishi stole the last remote, knowing that Satori is too lazy to get up off her ass and change channels manually.Lulz
Or just this. (http://uriko777.deviantart.com/art/Koishi-has-the-Last-Remote-197936589)
So according to Alice, Reimu has only 27.68 percent of her strength. Alice is the seven coloured puppeteer, but Reimu's outfit only has 2 colours and one of them isn't part of the rainbow. So does that mean if Alice went against Reimu in a fight with all of her strength, does that mean theoretically Alice would've won every fight against Reimu? Not trying to start a power-level discussion BTW.
And IDK why Alice is the seven coloured puppeteer, her clothes have only 3 colors and her dolls don't looks like a rainbow.But in UNL Alice's dolls shoot rainbow bullatz.
What does Zun use to make the backgrounds for the stages?i would assume code
There are no models. It's just more texture manipulation.
http://i.imgur.com/pk8mo.png (in stage 1)
http://i.imgur.com/PeEtI.png
http://i.imgur.com/mf6fY.png
http://i.imgur.com/a6eGW.png
And IDK why Alice is the seven coloured puppeteer, her clothes have only 3 colors and her dolls don't looks like a rainbow.
her danmaku (which presumably comes from her grimoire)Magician needs a grimoire to hold spellcards? I didn't know.
Magician needs a grimoire to hold spellcards? I didn't know.
Hm... Patchy has one too? What do you think?
I didn't necessarily mean that literally ^^;;; Her grimoire is either the basis of her power, the reference source that she's deriving her spells/magic from as a regular book, or maybe it literally is coming from her grimoire. Whatever.I see.
No plurality modifier in japanese. Youkai.I meant "youkai", not japanese 「妖怪」. :yukkuri:
I meant "youkai", not japanese 「妖怪」. :yukkuri:The plural is still youkai :V
Well, what does vsync patch do?With VSync disabled, the graphics card may try to show more than one frame at once. When that happens, you have "screen tearing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_tearing)", where different sections of different frames are shown at the same time. VSync fixes this.
Every enemy Spell Card in the game has been cataloged in this list. Each one contains a screenshot, the name in both English and Japanese, where you will see it, and a few unofficial comments from our writers.
Question: the wiki has (what seem to be) ZUN's comments on every single spellcard in the series. IN has these shown in spell practice, but where are they coming from for the rest of the games?They don't. As I understand it, the wiki editors just added them as flavour text.
No plurality modifier in japanese. Youkai.Youkaitachi :P
But technically, Yokai-tachi will be a direct first person reference to the Youkai, like Kisama-tachi or Tomodachi... And canonically Yokaitachi never appeared, so...
妖怪達も ヨッササIs IOSYS canon? The Internet seems to think it is. :P
You're aware that IOSYS likes to use a lot of comedy in their lyrics, right?Yep. And yet, they're a huge force into creating the secondary memes. Or were, there's quite some time I don't see an IOSYS video go viral.
I've got a few random questions about the threads sections' names. The questions are pretty silly.
1) First of all, why ''Dayousei's Cold Storage''? Wouldn't Cirno work better?
2) Secondly, why ''Letty Journal?'' I mean, why Letty of all people? (...My hypothesis being that it's a LJ joke)
Because what is now the Shrine Maiden Caf? used to be called Cirno's Perfect Math Class. As most archive-worthy threads arose from CPMC, calling the archive after Daiyousei made the most sense.
Well, the acronym is LJ, i.e., like LiveJournal, a place for angsty, no-one-understands-me blog posting.
Just to confirm, the Moriya in Mononobe no Moriya has absolutely no relations to the Moriya in Moriya Suwako or whatever it was based on, and is a simple coincidence, right?
It's just a coincidence. Mononobe no Moriya's name is written 守屋, while the Moriya god/Suwako is 洩矢.Huh, I knew I forgot something important. While in real life the Moriya god and shrine are both 洩矢, their priest family is called 守矢. The Moriya clan is by tradition descendants of the Moriya god, and very likely the ancient rulers of the Suwa region, before they were conquered by the Yamato people (mirrored in the mythology of Take-Minakata and the Moriya god). In fact, Sanae's given name is taken from the Moriya family's current matriarch, 守矢早苗,
The Moriya Shrine in real life is 洩矢神社, while the Touhou version is 守矢神社. ZUN changed one character, simply to differentiate the fictional shrine (which hosts both Kanako and Suwako) from reality.
I have just read a story saying ZUN intended TH4 (Lotus Land Story) to be the last Touhou game and the end of his doujin career. But on his way back from Comike, inspiration for more music struck him, so he made TH5. Can anyone verify this story?I can verify he had drunk beer.
I have just read a story saying ZUN intended TH4 (Lotus Land Story) to be the last Touhou game and the end of his doujin career. But on his way back from Comike, inspiration for more music struck him, so he made TH5. Can anyone verify this story?http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Mystic_Square/Music#Stage_1_theme (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Mystic_Square/Music#Stage_1_theme)
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Mystic_Square/Music#Stage_1_theme (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Mystic_Square/Music#Stage_1_theme)Thank you! That's exactly the help I needed. I stand corrected.
What was that about "completely untrue"?
"Better" in what sense?Well, just speaking of that article: its author was blatantly making stuff up when writing about the PC-98 games. That's why I found the article untrustworthy at first. It turns out the author did get this particular story right though :V.
What's the right spelling of Youkai? Youkai or Y?kai? I've seen both, and I have no idea which is ''better''. (Or if either is better) And what's the plural of Youkai anyway?
And a somewhat shameful question, does anyone know where I can find more information about different kind of Youkai? I have no idea where to look and wikipedia is just... empty.
Alrighty...
Youkai is the original spelling, and the latter you provided is also usable. I'd prefer to stick to the original "Youkai" though.
Go for Touhou wiki, and google "Perfect Memento in a Strict Sense". It is byZUNAkyuu, so it should be accurate.
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Perfect_Memento_in_Strict_Sense
^Here's the link.
Specifically, it's a question of romanization style. I personally prefer the style that uses "youkai" because it leaves the number of characters equal to the original - yo-u-ka-i = よ‐う‐か‐い. But on places like Wikipedia, they always use ō instead of ou.
Cutting out the u from Japanese words is actually pretty standard for English, though. Look at various loanwords we have from Japanese, like dojo, shogun, sumo, (Zen) koan, even Sudoku - in Japanese, these all have an additional う/u: doujou, shougun, sumou, kouan, suudoku
May I know if there is a giant directory of the "Touhou: Unthinkable Natural Law/The english name I do not remember how to spell" players' I.P. Addresses? IDK if this is the right section, but "Misc questions"... so...To end the thread with a final answer, even if useless: No. It really would not be a good idea at all to publish a wide array of IP addresses, plus having all of the IP addresses means nothing if you can't arrange a fight in the first place, which in and of itself invalidates the need for the addresses to be published beforehand anyways.
If Meiling isn't a dragon, is there any everloving idea of what kind of youkai she IS?
What's the right spelling of Youkai? Youkai or Y?kai?Both are the same in Japanese. おう is pronounced as long o, like ああ - long a, いい - long i, ええ=えい is long e etc.
As far as everything I've ever read about Meiling, nope. She's just a youkai and manipulates Chi. She's like Yuuka or Yukari; Sure, we can give them nicknames like Gap youkai and Flower youkai, but the species remain simply ''youkai''.
Yuuka has a title, her title is Flower Master of the Four Seasons. So, we can assume she is a flower youkai.Title is not a species. E. g., Chen is "Black Cat of Bad Omens", though that sort of double-tailed cats have special name "nekomata".
Same deal with Yukari, her title is Youkai of Boundaries, among other titles. So, we can assume she is a boundary youkai.
Meiling has a sad title, Chinese Girl. So, unless chinese youkai is a type of youkai, yeah, she is an unknown youkai type.
Both are the same in Japanese. おう is pronounced as long o, like ああ - long a, いい - long i, ええ=えい is long e etc.There actually is a difference between おう and おお, as well as えい and ええ, just to mention.