Author Topic: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II (Read 212922 times)

Dr Rawr · « **Reply #660 on:** September 20, 2011, 02:10:55 PM »

its 12 max :V

Helepolis · « **Reply #661 on:** September 20, 2011, 02:20:41 PM »

12 excluding the referee spots I assume. Then they should simply enlarge the map to support 5v5 play. Current map is slightly too small for 5+v5+ games (and the mechanism is lacking).

That reminds me of good old times where we did 4v4 on 949 map. Man that was one huge crowdfest.

Dorakyura · « **Reply #662 on:** September 20, 2011, 02:53:12 PM »

do want SC2 map Style, 15 Players?, that's a 5v5v5 or 7v7 :V

CloverNaght · « **Reply #663 on:** September 20, 2011, 05:53:10 PM »

so today i heard about silly tenshi remake plan
...and my reaction is always WTFdevs.jpg

Helepolis · « **Reply #664 on:** September 21, 2011, 10:12:30 AM »

Quote from: M-Reimu on September 20, 2011, 05:53:10 PM

so today i heard about silly tenshi remake plan
...and my reaction is always WTFdevs.jpg

Proven once more that there is no logic to making DotS an "enjoyable" and "playable" game.

z z z z

ApharmdB · « **Reply #665 on:** September 21, 2011, 10:19:49 AM »

Put Anchor and Nice Boat on her and crit all day long with D and F skills :V

Dorakyura · « **Reply #666 on:** September 21, 2011, 10:23:56 AM »

Quote from: ApharmdB on September 21, 2011, 10:19:49 AM

Put Anchor and Nice Boat on her and crit all day long with D and F skills :V

Wait, what? right, both are physical now and can crit?

ApharmdB · « **Reply #667 on:** September 21, 2011, 11:35:35 AM »

When the new patch comes around, yeah her D and F skills will do scaling physical damage. Anchor would be really suitable for her since she can tank damage. More suitable than Heaven's Peach. Who'd have thought... heh

Dr Rawr · « **Reply #668 on:** September 21, 2011, 12:07:24 PM »

lol i forgot about.skill crits xD, been awhile since ive abused it

Helepolis · « **Reply #669 on:** September 21, 2011, 12:15:09 PM »

Well, Anchor is pretty expensive to rush as it will gimp your Chiko. Though Titanic oar isn't that bad to built next to her Scythe.

Though you still need to effort A LOT in STR items since they went gay on her formula. 2s+formula. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . why =.=

[Y]oukai [J]esus · « **Reply #670 on:** September 21, 2011, 01:42:54 PM »

I hit Infinity at far range. With Gungnir. While he was invis. Epic win.

Captain Infinity · « **Reply #671 on:** September 21, 2011, 03:48:17 PM »

Quote from: Helepolis on September 20, 2011, 02:09:18 PM

A 5v5 map can be played 6v6 style as well I guess? But seeing WC3 standard has 10 player slots at max? Or do they have more?

There's 12 player slots in WC3.

Teetoku · « **Reply #672 on:** September 23, 2011, 10:56:49 AM »

Hey Raymoo
http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/cc328/ronvic101/Gif/raymoosexual.gif

No GIF anim with the filesize of elephants in [img] tags yo -Hele

CloverNaght · « **Reply #673 on:** September 23, 2011, 03:04:41 PM »

I DON'T REMEMBER I'M DOING THAT KIND OF THINGS YOU GOD DAM PAPARAJJI

ApharmdB · « **Reply #674 on:** September 23, 2011, 08:08:29 PM »

Not sure who's actually still interested in such a thing, but I'm so close to being completed now...

http://imageshack.us/g/402/27993307.jpg/

Just left with a couple more heros, and some user interface phrases, though I'll be busy over the weekend. Oh well.

What's not seen in those pictures though are some improvements made to some of the triggers, e.g. re-writing triggers to use timers instead of the buggy TriggerSleepAction command and preloading of skills...

Dr Rawr · « **Reply #675 on:** September 23, 2011, 11:42:34 PM »

Looks good, also having a up-to-date english map would look good for new people. I guess having to look through the wiki and all the moon runes can be overwhelming.

Thanuris · « **Reply #676 on:** September 24, 2011, 12:55:17 AM »

Yeah and you can have an easier time memorizing things, and you don't have to play "guess the item recipe looking at the item prices" (i'm looking at you 3d escapade)

Dr Rawr · « **Reply #677 on:** September 24, 2011, 01:07:53 AM »

i keep forgetting dragon star :fail:

CloverNaght · « **Reply #678 on:** September 24, 2011, 08:12:51 AM »

i keep forgetting how to make lunarbow and IIW despite i use them on daily basis :V
anyway up to date english map do want

swdn · « **Reply #679 on:** September 25, 2011, 04:52:30 PM »

ApharmdB, looks interesting. I've got some suggestions about your map patch. Can you e-mail me (since I can't PM you)?

HOENA · « **Reply #680 on:** September 25, 2011, 06:52:49 PM »

do not understand, the patch is a new map in English and this is a program that converts the language?

And because no new versions out?, Do not understand what exactly happens in the official forum

Dr Rawr · « **Reply #681 on:** September 25, 2011, 08:50:01 PM »

uhhh i dont think its a patch, i think he just edited the map and all its values to be in english. after he finishes this he can just use macros to refill in all the values on newer maps that come out and just need to modify whats new.

ApharmdB · « **Reply #682 on:** September 26, 2011, 12:54:04 AM »

What Rawr said. It's an unofficial translation after all. All I did was edit the strings and triggers really, so this isn't a patch but a separate file/map altogether. The upshot of this is that, barring drastic changes such as complete wipe/remakes of heros, translating future versions shouldn't take more than a couple of hours; most of the time is spent compiling and testing the thing anyway. The map's now on both bots - use !load dotseng967 to load them.

3 heros remain untranslated - Mugetsu, Parsee (harhar) and Ex-Rumia. Because of how the translation was done, there may be a couple of things that I missed out, and the formatting of the text probably looks ugly for some skills with terribly lengthy descriptions (like Yukari, whose ult is a blatant attempt to break the border surrounding tooltips in WC3 :V). Maybe I'll get around to fixing it in the next version...

swdn · « **Reply #683 on:** September 26, 2011, 05:05:55 AM »

ApharmdB, well, I wasn't able to answer your message (obviously, my post count < 10, so I cannot create PM), so could you send me your contacts (skype id/icq #/e-mail address is fine)?

ApharmdB · « **Reply #684 on:** September 26, 2011, 07:52:15 AM »

Oh I didn't realize replying was disabled as well. Details sent via pm.

ApharmdB · « **Reply #685 on:** September 27, 2011, 09:12:55 AM »

Optimized Chinese DotS v0.967g map - http://www.mediafire.com/?8aa8us2034qm6xv
Basically the map was run through a widgetizer specially made for optimizing chinese maps. Takes about 3s to drop the map's usual 30s loading time to roughly 9s for me. Pretty impressive considering the usual widgetizer tool takes a couple of minutes on my comp to process the map (and then it throws me errors). This map now replaces the usual DotS map on both bots.

English DotS v0.967 map - http://www.mediafire.com/?if7tmc7vqt6nrpk
This one is flagged Eng7 FinalX and has had some optimization done to it so it loads faster than before. I did something boneheaded for the Eng5 version which removed all the descriptions of status effects, so use this one instead. Heh. Running the chinese widgetizing tool with default settings on this map truncates skill descriptions, so this won't load as fast as the optimized chinese map, but still quite a bit faster than the non-optimized one (timed it at about 20s for me). Both versions now load equally fast :V

If anyone notices any anomalies when playing on either map, post it here or prod me on IRC and I'll look into it.

Dorakyura · « **Reply #686 on:** September 27, 2011, 09:22:04 AM »

have to look for my loading time next :V
I haven't done this lately, since the loading time went up with every new release

Rikter · « **Reply #687 on:** September 28, 2011, 12:34:04 AM »

Isn't EX Rumia just a grand total of 2 skills leftover at this point?

Dorakyura · « **Reply #688 on:** September 28, 2011, 06:22:59 AM »

ok loadingtime is awesome

10 seconds and I opened my window to late to see the "press a key" thing...

Helepolis · « **Reply #689 on:** September 28, 2011, 07:56:44 AM »

English version yesterday night loaded like balls train.

Thanks for all the hard work Aph.