Author Topic: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: GAME OVER, ROLES WIN!  (Read 47740 times)

Lexicat

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY EIGHT!
« Reply #600 on: June 09, 2011, 01:43:05 AM »
I found Schezo scummy and Dormio suspicious yesterday, and nothing they have done have changed my reads on them. I'd vote Schezo, but that would put him at L-2.

I have job-required volunteer work that all day today, so I won't be able to answer too many questions until tonight.


What choice did capt.h have at that point? It was his life of Schezo's.
 
You'll notice he throws Dormio under the bus here. Remember when I said I thought Dormio was town now? This is one of those reasons.
 
This post comes directly after Shadoweh VOTES DORMIO to create more discussion.
 
Capt.h certainly never was a leading force in the Schezo wagon, and just because he was the counter wagon, doesn't mean squat. His lack of interactions with Schezo was weird...

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY EIGHT!
« Reply #601 on: June 09, 2011, 01:44:05 AM »
The Twenty Third "Death 13" Vote Count

Mod Note: Obviously Lambda is no longer considered V/LA.

Lady LambdaDelta (4): PX, Edible, Dormio, capt. h
Omba (0)
Anthony (0)
Chaore (0)
PX (4):  Affinity, Chaore, Anthony, huh what
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Dormio (0)
Affinity (0)
Edible (2): LLD, Shadoweh

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Lady LambdaDelta is at L-2
PX is at L-2

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch
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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY EIGHT!
« Reply #602 on: June 09, 2011, 01:47:13 AM »
What choice did capt.h have at that point? It was his life of Schezo's.
Yes, but Schezo was a Godfather with a role name that implies an additional ability, and Godfather powers are quite useful to scum. I would imagine that capt. h would be more likely to just let himself die for the sake of the team, unless his role was somehow even more ridiculous or the team is incompetent.

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PX is at L-4
Is this a mistake or not?

What mistake? I mean, first some kittens try to tell me there was an error (which there wasn't, they clearly had too much cat nip), and now *you* try to convince me there's an error? I swear, people these days!
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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY EIGHT!
« Reply #603 on: June 09, 2011, 01:47:29 AM »
Apparently, it was.

Lexicat

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY EIGHT!
« Reply #604 on: June 09, 2011, 01:54:38 AM »
@huh what: How would capt.h get away with that though? It woulod make little sense too. If he sacrifices himself, it wouldn't stop us from lynching Schezo right after him too.
 

capt. h

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY EIGHT!
« Reply #605 on: June 09, 2011, 02:16:39 AM »
Lambda, I do not want to lynch you because you flew off the handle. I want to lynch you because I think you are scum, and I think your flying off the handle was a deliberate distraction from your scummy play. Behind all the antics I do not see anything town motivated - in fact, I see you systematically avoiding any attempt to write content on players that are not voting for you. I don't think you're scum hunting, I think your hunting the players that think you're scum, while using blatant diversions to break attention away from the fact that you aren't hunting scum. And I think you're doing it because you're scum.

Lexicat

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY EIGHT!
« Reply #606 on: June 09, 2011, 02:28:00 AM »
Lambda, I do not want to lynch you because you flew off the handle. I want to lynch you because I think you are scum, and I think your flying off the handle was a deliberate distraction from your scummy play.

Excuse me while I stress this. In this post he admits to forcing evidence to try and fit his need to call me scum. He's not saying I'm scum because of ANYTHING. He's saying I'm doing things, BECAUSE I'M SCUM.
 
Which is really bad logic. So bad it's hard to believe it's intentional.

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY EIGHT!
« Reply #607 on: June 09, 2011, 04:49:24 AM »
Fine, you all caught me. I am PX, the Mafia Forever Scum. My role is that when I die, I get swapped with a Townie role and someone else becomes the scum in my place. :V

No in all seriousness, I can't focus on this game. I've got graduation and my birthday coming up, so I'm gonna be busy (partying) for the next few days. So just lynch me before the day ends and I'll say some things right now.

I have a case on Lady 34, you guys just haven't been reading as closely.

Apparently to Shadoweh, I'm scummy enough to lynch and not bother to defend, while Lady Miyo is too scummy to be scum and must defend with your life.

Don't just clear Capt. H just because he was a main counter-wagon. If I ever finally become scum, I would have my entire team bus each other simply because the amount of town credit one gains here is ridiculous. Enough to cruise all the way to the end. Like Affinity does all the time.

Anyway, I reread PX's contributions this game, and I think I know why he's always obvscum - it's because he's getting worse with every game.
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So someone else finally realized it. :V

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY EIGHT!
« Reply #608 on: June 09, 2011, 04:50:41 AM »
Failure to endquote and include this

##Vote: PX

And I still think one of The Witch, Captain Kiro, and Scumio is scum.

capt. h

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY EIGHT!
« Reply #609 on: June 09, 2011, 05:03:36 AM »
Alright, first off, let's not lynch the player that's probably going to get modkilled anyway. He's at L-1, so an unvote would be nice right now.

Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY EIGHT!
« Reply #610 on: June 09, 2011, 05:32:51 AM »
ugh px

Relying on modkills is gaming the system. I don't like it, regardless of whether or not it benifits us. I think somebody should show up and hammer him, we only have about eleven and a half hours left anyway. Unless there's still stuff to discuss right before we get another flip, but I don't think that there is.

Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY EIGHT!
« Reply #611 on: June 09, 2011, 05:35:07 AM »
Hmm, actually, it might be worth waiting for Chaore's cases before we lynch PX. However, he doesn't seem to be around, sooo. @_@

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY EIGHT!
« Reply #612 on: June 09, 2011, 05:38:54 AM »
I'm around to hammer before the day ends if the need arises.

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY EIGHT!
« Reply #613 on: June 09, 2011, 05:54:24 AM »
Hmm, actually, it might be worth waiting for Chaore's cases before we lynch PX. However, he doesn't seem to be around, sooo. @_@

I just lost those cases due to the internet cutting out on me while I was posting and it's now 2 AM and I can not reliably focus. I do not suppose anyone would not hold it against me if I said I won't be able to get them in before deadline?

Because I'm not going to be able to get them in before deadline.

capt. h

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY EIGHT!
« Reply #614 on: June 09, 2011, 05:59:20 AM »
When I made my case on you, I did tunnel to hard. I was too preoccupied with seeing you as guilty to appreciate the case you made. I gave your case on Edible another lookthrough LLD, and I admit I missed Edible giving Schezo a clear on meta. I can see why you think he's scummy.

Edible claimed that you answered a question Schezo never asked in post 226 -
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His question to me about "Why would scum attack millers?" is something I HAVE ALREADY ANSWERED. His insistance on me being scum because "I have not answered him" is completely scum motivated.

I was wondering if you could explain this argument to me. Why did you find Schezo scummy for Serp's question?

Now that you've had a short break from the game, I also was wondering how your reads have changed. I've been interested in hearing those for a while now. What do you think of me? And what should we do about PX's... thing?

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY EIGHT!
« Reply #615 on: June 09, 2011, 06:01:49 AM »
EBWOP:

Here's the broken link to post 226.

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY EIGHT!
« Reply #616 on: June 09, 2011, 06:13:25 AM »
I'm awake and what is this
No we're not waiting for modkills what
PX is it really this difficult to go through a game without voting for yourself? -.- Die please.
We're not lynching capt.h either. Don't get your hopes up.


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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY EIGHT!
« Reply #617 on: June 09, 2011, 06:42:03 AM »
Shadoweh, are you going to lynch PX? Or is there more you want to know/talk about/ask people before he dies?

I'm a little eager to get a flip, since we've only, you know, had one lynch so far. @_@ That, and because I think PX is scum anyway.

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY EIGHT!
« Reply #618 on: June 09, 2011, 07:11:44 AM »
I don't think we'd get the flip right away anyways unless one of the Hydracomods tells us. UK is in sleep mode. And I still believe it's to our advantage to garner points instead of speed through the days. The possibilty of a stockpiled kill that hasn't happened yet is less likely considering there are at least two delicious townie targets.

Uhm. I hate when people wait till the last second to do things like this. That's a pretty townie post. Most of my bad feelings around PX stem from how aggravating he hasn't been. Normally PX is very.. noticable. Dormio asked why I would defend him, this kind of thing is why. No, alot of players are completely incapable of defending themselves. Unfortunately there isn't anything definitive I can say about why PX comes off as town to me from that post but 'gut'. So we'll have to use plan B, or as I'm dubbing it now, The LSD Method:



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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY EIGHT!
« Reply #619 on: June 09, 2011, 07:43:18 AM »
You guys get your flips right away. In case you forgot how the first lynch was handled?

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY EIGHT!
« Reply #620 on: June 09, 2011, 07:48:48 AM »
In short yes I'm willing to hammer him, but I'm more null on him now. I wouldn't have considered him a bad choice before this. Since the other choice is Lambda, unshockingly I'd rather vote anyone else.

I'm not sure if I want to lynch Dormio or shake him until the opinions come out. Stop calling me weird and decide if you want to suicide by pushing me as scum or not. Hint, I'm not, and if you ever manage to get me flipped you will get superbussed so hard the next day you'll think you're in Day 5 MRM all over again. If PX flips town I'd like the Embodiment of Townie Rage to be focused right there.

Oh, another reason to wait. I actually want Affinity to answer my questions about PX, especially since PX is the viable lynch when Chaore isn't anymore.

Cut by Pescorz being here: Still want to hear from Affinity first.


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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY EIGHT!
« Reply #621 on: June 09, 2011, 07:57:42 AM »
Okay, it's almost 4am and I just woke up and read this, so lynching order flopped off of ActionChaore to capt. h to PX->Edible=LLD? This is starting to feel like someone's using sticky silly string to connect these things together cause they break and reform into the weirdest of things :V

With Capt.h though, to be frank other than my ~*~crazy hypothesis~*~ about some weird scheme between him and schezo to waste time for town, there really isn't anything that's much against him, so I might as well bump him down if not chuck him off of my list of people to die, almost the same goes for ActionChaore cause the majority of junk was pursuing a case on bad gut and giving up when he wasn't 6 foot under yet.

With that I guess other than the cases on Edible and LLD possibly bumping up the list, I'm still iffy on PX, the low content I guess can be considered for his condition in the magical world of ~Real Life~ but still it gives me a bad aftertaste to leave that tiny bump over the track path that is the foundation for which this game as a train travels BV

Edible, well, he's given info and points, but differently, and LLD just has been quite the shock to my scale as most of what LLD has done has just been absurd, either way I still don't feel like getting off of this wagon on PX for the most part of that even if PX may end up being town, it's a decent hole in the ground that is the liability of town players.


Current scale from most to least scum/wanting to lynch (these things are not seperate :VV:) PX for the holes that is the lack in the info, the data in which all tells come from, and what there just giving off a wiff of scum -> LLD for the insanity and derpness that can either contribute to scum trying to play really derp town, or just really damn derp town, which either is a liability for town -> Edible and Dormio are tied mostly cause Dormio has been more of a peruse one person at a time and not much else, not a bad thing but not exactly beneficial to everybody. and with Edible he has given some stuff here to work with, and to be honest all of it, just it feels middle of the road-ish, not in choice of lynching or of who, just how it's all put out, the intent of his own words playing straight to what he says.

Everyone else would either be just someone I don't sense anything in, or people who don't come up on the radar or others'

Now excuse me I gotta raid the fridge for leftovers and possibly something to drink, cause it's damn 4am on a Thursday Thursday Thursday

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY EIGHT!
« Reply #622 on: June 09, 2011, 08:25:22 AM »
With that I guess other than the cases on Edible and LLD possibly bumping up the list, I'm still iffy on PX, the low content I guess can be considered for his condition in the magical world of ~Real Life~ but still it gives me a bad aftertaste to leave that tiny bump over the track path that is the foundation for which this game as a train travels BV
I'm sorry, can you clarify what this means? I know what it sounds like you're saying, but I'd like it repeated in normal words.
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Edible, well, he's given info and points, but differently, and LLD just has been quite the shock to my scale as most of what LLD has done has just been absurd, either way I still don't feel like getting off of this wagon on PX for the most part of that even if PX may end up being town, it's a decent hole in the ground that is the liability of town players.
Are you saying you're only voting PX because you think he's a liability? And you want to vote LLD for being a town liability? Your two highest scum picks are the two wagons for reasons other then because you think they're scum?

Holy hell is this scummy. And your jump onto PX when you said he was the LEAST scummy of your three choices earlier put you third on the wagon. Why exactly did you pick him first and who do you actually think is scum for being scummy? I swear to Keine if you don't start sounding townie I will turn this whole wagon around on you.


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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY EIGHT!
« Reply #623 on: June 09, 2011, 10:04:46 AM »
Those three I initially had were, for the most part going with the trends along with a bit of gut, but the more recent actions of the people here as a whole has shifted from ActionChaore, Capt. h, and PX, to PX, LLD, and Edible.  Since it would be pointless to stick to the old trend I've re-adjusted my view.  The first point being that LLD and Edible have gone up above Chaore and Capt.h, and PX going to the top of the list.

Also since efficiency is scummy as well, I should add more onto this.

PX vote currently, not only for the fact of being only a vote and strands of text as thin as silk, there's the point of him being self centered and having only responded when he required it, even with the hassle of real life a little more could have been squeezed out, so it just gets on my nerves, it;s a blank card, land that looks undisturbed but could be a landmine basically.  Maybe I have a bit too much intent for lynching PX than I should.

LLD through the game has for the most part either been going crazy in attempts to be town, or jumping the gun to be town.  She jumped onto Shadoweh when town got the time system down. We'll never forget her tirade for MORE BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD :V. Even within day one she was trying to keep herself in the spot of town with her miller claim.  With that, there's also a thing about how she posts at least 2-3, even 4 times in a row just to add on, as if he/she's not planning things out, almost in a frantic chance to try to prove herself town.  Hell thinking this it kinda makes me want to switch my vote over to LLD >.>

Edible case more or less is on my radar due to the wagon of it coming up, he really hasn't been giving me any bad feelings or anything from the text itself, but then that's only one part.  He for the majority of the game has been after LLD, for in the beginning was Gotcha games, then actiondan cause of some miswording, but for the most part pretty much focused on LLD.  He's pretty much been on LLD all game, persistence or not he isn't doing it all for LLD being a bad player, it's just that it's part of his reasoning, as is part of mine for LLD as well.

PX and LLD are liabilities, and yes that is part of my reasoning, but the points for them, is that PX pretty much has gotten nothing, and has left spots on the record, it just bugs me and tempts me for him to get hanged, ditto for LLD except more stuff and even bigger spots.  LLD may just be overderping town, and is kinda why I'm not going off and voting for LLD right now.

So yea, part gut, part efficiency, part looking at everyone else and a little personal research, a man alone is not an island, so why stick myself out on something that really isn't the main point of town discussion? I mean for reasons other than trying to point someone out as scum or such. 

Also for speculations' sake, what if LLD flips scum? Would this clear any suspicion of Edible? this question goes out to anyone who has a vote on him.  And likewise for incase Edible flips scum, would that clear LLD? :V

What if they're just trying to pass off one as a town while ditching another scum member? the possibilities are endless :VV:

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY EIGHT!
« Reply #624 on: June 09, 2011, 10:29:36 AM »
going with the trends
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Your case on PX is about how he gets on your nerves. Your case on LLD is WIFOM about how she's not planning things out. Your case on Edible is whoops you think he's town! I'm not sure if you realize just how scummy all this sounds.
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So yea, part gut, part efficiency, part looking at everyone else and a little personal research, a man alone is not an island, so why stick myself out on something that really isn't the main point of town discussion? I mean for reasons other than trying to point someone out as scum or such.
You answered your own question. Who cares who town is discussing if you don't agree with them? You press for who you think is scum. You don't follow trends and get lost in the crowd. Each individual Townie must forge their own path for JUSTICE!
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Also for speculations' sake, what if LLD flips scum? Would this clear any suspicion of Edible? this question goes out to anyone who has a vote on him.  And likewise for incase Edible flips scum, would that clear LLD? :V
Edible (2): LLD, Shadoweh <--- So you're asking me? Yes, if LLD flips scum Edible would be clear. I would also quote my role pm in the thread and get banned from Mafia. Good thing that isn't going to happen!


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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY EIGHT!
« Reply #625 on: June 09, 2011, 10:43:49 AM »
Excuse me if no one else really damn looks scummy, the people I really view as scummy to be honest are the ones the majority of town are on, anyone else is in the clear on my radar to be honest.  PX doesn't have much to go on other than gut, and lack of content, and LLD is just a jumble of so much junk it could be the extremes of either derptown or scum acting as derptown, and Edible looks almost clean in comparison, he's been on LLD for the majority of the game before LLD's flipping out with superlynch express, ActionDan was in desperation and lacking in time, Omba got replaced and huh what actually seems fine to me.  Maybe Mafia just isn't a game for the type of person like me who isn't the judgmental type :V

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY EIGHT!
« Reply #626 on: June 09, 2011, 12:07:54 PM »
While PX has been getting progressively worse (and this is icing on the cake), I really don't think he's doing this because he's scum, in that I don't think it has anything to do with allignment. I can't really read him, in the same way I can't read the allignment of a brick dropped on a keyboard; a brick plays the game exactly the same regardless of whose side it's on. I'm not opposed to his lynch, but his play feels like a null tell at best.

I'm re-thinking my read on LLD right now in light of last night. I'm thinking that I'm giving too much credit to genuinely derpy behavior - which I view as a null tell as opposed to scummy. I don't think she's as obvscum as Edible would have us believe anymore, but she still strikes me as suspicious.

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY EIGHT!
« Reply #627 on: June 09, 2011, 01:20:17 PM »
There's 3 and a half hours until the deadline, and I need to go somewhat soon.
Should I go for the hammer?

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY EIGHT!
« Reply #628 on: June 09, 2011, 01:27:00 PM »
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Lady LambdaDelta (3): Edible, Dormio, capt. h
Omba (0)
Anthony (0)
Chaore (0)
PX (5):  Affinity, Chaore, Anthony, huh what, PX
capt.h (0)
Shadoweh (0)
Dormio (0)
Affinity (0)
Edible (2): LLD, Shadoweh

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Lady LambdaDelta is at L-3
PX is at L-1

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch
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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY EIGHT!
« Reply #629 on: June 09, 2011, 01:44:25 PM »
Wait for Affinity first. He's here around now and I'm going to be here till deadline, so worry not about the chance to Forever Hammer PX slipping by.


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