Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: GAME OVER, ROLES WIN!

[UncertainJakutten]

The Sixth "Diamond is Unbreakable" Vote Count

Mod Note: I really hope I don't end up having to prod anyone...

Lady LambdaDelta (0)
Omba (1): Capt. h
Zakeri (0)
ActionDan (4): Shadoweh, PX, Zakeri, Edible
PX (0)
capt.h (4): Serpentarius, Kitten4U, Schezo, Dormio
Schezo (1): Affinity
Serpentarius (0)
Kitten4U (0)
Shadoweh (1): ActionDan
Dormio (1): LLD
Affinity (0)
Edible (1): Omba

Not Voting (0)

capt.h. is at L-3
ActionDan is at L-3
With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch
Game Day Two Ends at 1:00 AM, EDT, Thursday (today is Wednesday)

[Omba]

Shadoweh's use of the word came after stating she didn't pursue Lambda because she thought she would be a mislynch.  Dan's use of it looked to me like he was referring directly to Dormio as a mislynch, which implies he has knowledge the rest of us don't.  In short, he was careless.

That's pretty much my take on him too. So it would be good if we broke up this wonderful tunnelfight. Dormio, your twitter feed is all one-way, you should tell me about your thoughts on everyone now. Especially directly after one of my posts. :< Am I not being angry enough for you? It's hard to be grr when everything feels so mellow and the room is all spinny x.x

Yeah, actually, it kind of does. To clarify, the core of the argument is "Dormio attacked Lambda for claiming Miller, and Lambda thinks this was scummy of him." This argument doesn't work to prove Scumio if someone believes that claiming Miller is a scummy action. I can think of much better reasons to vote Dormio then reacting to game mechanics. I also think Lambda sounds pretty town (WHICH MEANS SHE IS ACTUALLY OBVSCUM OMG) so I'm not interested in pushing mislynches.

Guess who else seemed to refer to Dormio as a mislynch. :V

[Omba]

UK: In your last vote count, shouldn't that read "game day two ends on..."? Also, Edible is voting ActionDan, not Shadoweh. Unless rule 4) does not mean we can completely leave out unvoting.

I know mafia can be hard to understand but you don't need to take LSD recreationally for it. I have absolutely no idea what you could be referring to with this post

[Kitten4u]

Doesn't make her go in a good light and I should say that this is another reason I think there is something scum motivated going on between those two, I don't see townie slapfight when I look at it.

... ... ...
I am stoopid.

Schezo, can you update your reads on Dormio and Lambda?  I know Dormio's at least talked about other stuff.  Can you also get into specifics on what makes you think Lambda vs Dormio isn't town vs town and why capth is worth voting over that?  I saw a bit of that, but I'm currently not finding it satisfactory.

Still think capth is worse because of that initial Omba vote.  Schezo at least went for someone that wasn't attacking someone he thought was scum. :V  Still, that and the fact that a bandwagon on capth was forming makes me totally willing to lynch Schezo too right now.

Still need to finish the rest of my reads.  Give me a while.

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

@Dormio: If you require clarification on why I was voting Lambda, ask.  My case on her hasn't gone away, and I'm not really sure why you think it had.

Oh, I thought that your grumble post was a getting off that case to make another one post.
My bad.

because while a townie can look at a miller claim and go, "that's odd," who would actually say "HEY WHAT's UP WITH THAT?" and vote immediately?

A... hahaha... :fail:
:colonveeplusalpha:

Then jumps off her wagon once it has become clear others do not share his opinion (and hence he's not getting his lynch).

Or I had time away from the game and then got to read the game, and mainly the statements on how to play miller which made sense in retrospect, with a cool head. But whatever.

Anyway!
capt. h hasn't come around yet, so nothing to add there.

I find myself wondering about this:

4 minutes later Shadoweh exclaims that Omba's explaination of why it is bad to quicklynch a non-player was her reason for thinking me scummy.  Yet that was never mentioned directly beforehand, only that I sounded "weird."

Because, personally, I agreed with all of Shadoweh's earlier points on ActionDan. And I thought that it was rather obvious that that was the reason why Shadoweh found it to be "weird". Since I was already assuming Omba's scenario when I asked the mod about it. (Only to be ridiculed for calling it a "night" period. )
But let's forget about the whole "let's mislynch" thing for a moment.
I also have to wonder with your "Shadoweh, Omba, and capt. h are scum, and we should turkey shoot Dormio because" what your priorities are.

Guess who else seemed to refer to Dormio as a mislynch. :V

Uh, if you're referring to ActionDan, he kinda still builds a case on me that he can jump on later, despite calling me a mislynch?
Unless I misunderstood horribly and you're talking about someone else.

[capt. h]

Schezo ? In my very first post about Omba which you linked, I said his posts were fluffy and that he was very active with few strong opinions. I am not backtracking when I call him an active lurker; I?ve been targeting him for that for my entire case. Furthermore, your second link leads to the post that caused you to vote Omba in the first place:

Excuse me? You going, "I'm setup speculating, claiming I'm not, then speculating some more," is worse than if you were just speculating. Your whole post reads like a contradiction to me, since you are grilling someone for the same you are doing and responding in a roundabout way that would allow you be able to slip out of later.

In addition, he changed his vote to Dormio from Dan, which means he thinks Dormio is scummier than Dan. At the time of your vote, his case on Dormio assumed LLD is town (which is hardly confirmed), and that Dormio is scum who fell for a town gambit, as opposed to town that fell for either a town or a scum gambit. Since then, he has been building a case on Dormio, but he hasn?t been pushing it. He notes that Dormio did get off the LLD wagon at an opportunistic time, but he only notes it, he doesn?t push his top lynch for it.

K4U ? I don?t think your spat with Dan was town v. town, and it definitely wasn?t null. And I think one of you might be scum. That doesn?t mean I?m sure it?s not town v. town, and it doesn?t mean I?m sure which one of you is scum. You both played in a way I thought was scummy; you jumped on the joke vote (before Dan said it wasn?t a joke) and really went after Dan for minor points. Dan didn?t have much of an opinion on you afterwards, and focused on setup mostly. The only part that stopped me was that you both claimed that parts of your scummy behavior was deliberate. Dan claimed that he voted the mod to start discussion, and you claimed you changed your vote in one post to place suspicion on multiple people on purpose. The main thing that makes Dan scummier, (other than meta, which you rightfully declare null) is how he continued his setup speculation and suggestions for mod lynches for a while after the argument was over ? which could be either scum Dan or derptown Dan. Whereas you stopped posting.

It was not null, which is why I grilled Omba on it. I don?t think all null reads are bad, so much as I think having a null read on as many things as Omba does is like having no opinion on half the game, which is worse than your spat. Although you bring up a good point; Omba is my main case, but I do have questions for you and Dan. What are your current reads on Dan and Affinity? Do you still think Dan is scummy, or do you think he?s derptown?

Dan ? What is your read on K4U? You haven?t said much either way about her, and it?s very unusual.

[Omba]

Uh, if you're referring to ActionDan, he kinda still builds a case on me that he can jump on later, despite calling me a mislynch?
Unless I misunderstood horribly and you're talking about someone else.

I was referring to Shadoweh. This was a clarification regarding my case on Edible. Specifically, on why I think his Dan vote is so godawful.

[Kitten4u]

Do you still think Dan is scummy, or do you think he?s derptown?

I'll let you all in on a secret.  I think Dan is town.

:V

Affinity I refuse to touch until I have flips.  I always read him as scum and this game is no different.

As for everything else, it's the fact that you don't think it's town vs town, are doing nothing with it and perusing a third person, who at the time of voting was voting for the person that you thought was more likely to be scum.  I realize that if you were town you wouldn't know 100% if it was town vs town as not, but none of your posts show you trying to figure it out.  This is why I don't see town in it. 

What were you hoping to get from Omba as of your vote?  He was already voting for Dan, so I feel like it should have been obvious which of us he found worse, so I assume you were looking for something else?

[Shadoweh]

Mom! she's picking on me again!   :ohdear:

>:3

So, in your opinion, what ARE the better reasons to vote Dormio?  Also what do you think of Kitten?  You thought it scummy of me to think bad of her early on, but never actually gave an opinion of her in the process. 

I'll read all that other stuff first but I might as well tell you why I don't like your push on Dormio, Dan. I am saying the miller thing is a nulltell but the way Dormio hasn't been giving many of his own opinions on other people and who he finds scummy is suspicious. If you were actually looking for reasons to suspect him beyond 'oh that miller thing everyone else and their mother commented on' it wouldn't be hard. I have Got My Eye On Him. 

And no Dan, your tunnelistic view of me as the only scum in the game doesn't count! Me and the other popular wagon? That's pretty sad! Uhm, that was a joke about LLD being scum. Kitten is being pretty cute so far. I kind of suspect PX for almost sounding reasonable for a minute there then completely disappearing and I forgot he was playing again. He should show up and say, I don't know, words. I have less suspects and more talk more you lazy posters, but Zak should come update us with what he thinks of everyone that isn't Dan and Lambda now that we're all here. I didn't like his vote on self and bbl to begin with.

Also it's never time to stop questioning people. And I'm not insulted, I rather like you, I just think you sound like ~*scum*~ today! Sorrios!

[Shadoweh]

Oh, and my parrot thinks capt.h looks bad for thinking Dan looks scummy because he was the loser in an argument without being able to tell us what about Dan is scummy personally. Reading over that last post, uh, so capt.h is Dan scum or derptown? He could be all kinds of things, but it's more interesting when of them you think he is! Who else do you suspect? You must have opinions on people not named Omba, 2good4ferrets, or Dan by now.

[Shadoweh]

EBWOM: which of them you think he is. Yes. I AM THE ENGLISH.

[Affinity]

K4U posted before me and asked the questions I wanted to ask, making me somewhat parroty.  But yes, Schezo, you did explain your case again, but you have not clearly defined why your read on capt.h is more 'solid' than on Dormio.  I can understand why backtracking is anti-town, as well as 'tunneling' and 'appeal to emotion', but not why one is more 'solid' than the other.

I think Dormio was the first to raise stuff on how he found Dan to be 'likely scum' and yet still proceeded to vote Omha, and in such a concise manner.  Felt the best to my eyes.

Also, my two cents on the Lamda/Dormio spat is that the right play for Miller is not common knowledge, especially for people who have not played in a setup with Miller.  Deliberately fueling the fire for a few posts  without explaining the exact logic behind the Miller claim (and even so, some of it being tinged with her rhetoric, as if people automatically become worse as scum in terms of making cases), and not until #98 is also pretty unnecessary, and acts like a mere vote-sit.  Of course, Dormio has a part to play in this as well, but Lamda as a leader in that argument had a greater part to play in all that confusion.  Lamda still needs to explain why she did not pursure capt. h (who agreed with Dormio on you) as scum, as well as comment on the other cases so far today.

[PX]

Reading the miller stuff, Miller claim seems reasonable if it were either a townie, a miller, or a scum, so that is completely null. Dormio's reaction to it can be seen as the reaction of a confused person who has never seen a miller claim before and acted before thinking about it seriously, so that's null.

Looking at the Capt. H wagon, the points do hit, but the speed of the wagon doesn't register with me. Looking at each vote, the worst is Dormio's.

Classic selective quoting. It tries to make your case more valid if people don't look at the posts. And what you said on Omba is exactly what Capt. H is voting Omba for.

##Vote: Dormio

Dan looks better now he has a vote.

Anyone notice Affinity typed Omba as Omha? Otherwise, Affinity being Affinity, looking town as always with clear, logical points.

Omba, you suddenly cleared Dan as town using Meta reads. What about his new posts? What do you find town about them?

Lambdadelta: We know you think Dormio is scum and Zakeri as town. Anybody else?

Choo choo I'm on a train

[capt. h]

:V

Affinity I refuse to touch until I have flips.  I always read him as scum and this game is no different.

As for everything else, it's the fact that you don't think it's town vs town, are doing nothing with it and perusing a third person, who at the time of voting was voting for the person that you thought was more likely to be scum.  I realize that if you were town you wouldn't know 100% if it was town vs town as not, but none of your posts show you trying to figure it out.  This is why I don't see town in it. 

What were you hoping to get from Omba as of your vote?  He was already voting for Dan, so I feel like it should have been obvious which of us he found worse, so I assume you were looking for something else?

In response:

Omba's posts are extremely fluffy. She doesn't give any opinion either way about Shadoweh, K4U, or LLD and her miller claim, and her reasons for voting Action Dan [were] vague. For someone that's fairly active, she sure doesn't have any strong opinions.

Put simply, I thought she was the most likely scum at the time, in spite of not thinking you and Dan was town v. town. Omba's reads on Shadoweh, you and LLD are still null, to my knowledge. Neither scum nor town, just ?no opinion?, and no commentary about your play or actions. Incidentally, Shadoweh is playing a very town game to me or at least she?s making lots of good points. The hardest part about reading LLD is that her miller claim was central to her game, and having not seen it before I?m having trouble judging it. And while I had an early scummy read on you, your recent posts against me are a lot more neutral. Although you do state that you also find Schezo scummy. Why? And what?s your read on Omba?

The more I think about it, the more I think Dan?s early game speculation was derptown. Dan?s lurking through the rest of the game is less derptown. Likewise with Dormio ? his decision to policy vote the claimed miller was derptown, but his decision to vote me while agreeing with my case on Omba, that most her reads were null, is not so derptown. Both are suspicious, but not as much as Schezo.

Schezo ? You begin the game with this case on Omba:

Excuse me?  You going, "I'm setup speculating, claiming I'm not, then speculating some more," is worse than if you were just speculating.  Your whole post reads like a contradiction to me, since you are grilling someone for the same you are doing and responding in a roundabout way that would allow you be able to slip out of later.
##Unvote:
##Vote: Omba
 

You then unvote Omba because:

Thank you Omba for clearing up some things for me.  I feel better about you, enough to
##Unvote:
however, it would be nice to hear some more non null tell things from you.

Please explain exactly what Omba cleared up for you, and how you feel my post (quoted above) is a blatant  misrepresentation of Omba. If it is because I said his reason for voting Action Dan was vague, than I apologize, because it would be more accurate to say that it wasn't clear to me. But you did vote for Omba over her case on Action Dan. At the time you agreed with me that many of her reads were null ? I view that as equivalent to not giving an opinion, no matter how well she chooses not to give it, which is why I didn?t view her explaining her null tells as adequate.

You took a post from you case on Omba to make a case on me for misrepresenting Omba while agreeing with my points on Omba.  :wat:

[WHMZakeri]

quickposting, because I'm about to go to bed, and I hate the must post once every 24 hours rule.

For those of you astute enough to notice weirdness between Shadoweh and I (Which is odd, because it's barely had time to materialize in the first place) It's because I decided that for day one, I was just going to see how far I could go limiting myself to making the exact same voting history Shadoweh does. I didn't get very far, because now I'm fed up with the vote on Dan, and I think Shadoweh is either scum, or lazy, of which I believe the former is more likely.

Unvote
Vote: Shadoweh

I'm fairly certain Dan is not high priority lynch material. As for "Comments on people who haven't posted" That's because they haven't posted, and there's nothing to bag them for. On "Reads besides LLD and Dan" I'm throwing this thing on Shadoweh's vote as scummy out now, and I believe I've at least passively described my feelings on Dormio. Others will come when words don't fall out of my skull as soon as I read them.

[Kitten4u]

K4U posted before me and asked the questions I wanted to ask, making me somewhat parroty.

If that's true then what was bothering you about my vote?

@capth
I'm reading the game, you don't have to repeat things you have already said.  That doesn't really answer my question though.  He was voting for Dan.  That obviously means he thinks he is the scummiest of the three of us.  It doesn't mean he has to think that Shadoweh and I are town or that we can't be scum and it doesn't mean that he doesn't have an opinion just because he's not sure if we're town or scum on page 3 less than 24 hours into the game.  This is why I have no idea what you were trying to get from him.  He did have an opinion, a rather clear one, in the form of a vote.  It's like you with LLD.  You also fence-sit on whether she is town or scum because you find her hard to read.  I don't really see how having some null reads that aren't worth perusing in their mind makes someone scum?  If you think I'm being too easy on him convince me of it.  All you've done is repeat yourself.

I'd actually like Omba to respond to this.  This line specifically:

Put simply, I thought she was the most likely scum at the time, in spite of not thinking you and Dan was town v. town. Omba's reads on Shadoweh, you and LLD are still null, to my knowledge. Neither scum nor town, just ?no opinion?, and no commentary about your play or actions.

None of this clears up why you didn't bother to question Dan or I before I called you on it either.  Or why you thought the spat wasn't town vs town.  Or anything else for that matter.

Although you do state that you also find Schezo scummy. Why?

:|
The exact same reason I think you are scum.  I don't see how I could possibly be any clearer about it.
Omba is town.

I'll be around, but I think I'm going to have to wait a day before I can post the rest of my reads.  I've basically devoted all of the past couple of days to Mafia and I think I'm starting to burn out.

[Kitten4u]

@Zak
I took a quick look at your other posts and I think that might actually be what was bothering me about you. :V  k then.

I'm going to make a point of reading Shadoweh tonight even if I can't get to everyone else.  I find Edible and Zak's comments about her worth looking at and she was already giving me bad vibes.

[Shadoweh]

Uhm, well okay then.

##Vote: Zakeri

BLATANT OMGUS GO! It's because I told my parrot I was going to wait for you to post before prodding you, isn't it? Sorry for not jumping around but Dan decided to take his sweet time posting and continue doing things that bother me (WHERE'S THE ACTION, DAN?! ;-;). Everyone's posted by the way, so your excuse for not mentioning them smacks of :Effort:. Let's get some of them words about other people before they fall out of that cuddly skull of yours. Passively described your feelings? So he's posted a few times since then, what do you think of him now? Also, can you explain this to me, Zak?

How else am I suppose to parse "That makes you no better that [the person I'm voting for] over here."? Of course, now that you've cleared up that you're not attacking me, I don't feel any scum motivation in your posting anymore.

Are you seriously saying you're clearing LLD because she's not attacking you? The entire interaction between you two from #104 to #108 does not in fact make sense. "As bad as Dormeow" does sound like she's calling you scum. You attacked her over the miller claim and were voting for her easy lynch example, but you're her town read because and this line of thinking is just dandy with you, no questions asked, all town and good here as long as she's not attacking you? That's terrible reasoning. You're welcome to follow my vote again if you like.

[Kitten4u]

GDI

Is it too much to ask that you guys don't do weird stuff so I don't get weird vibes I can't explain? ;___;

[Shadoweh]

Is it too much to ask that you guys don't do weird stuff so I don't get weird vibes I can't explain? ;___;

>.> BLAME THE PARROT NOT THE DRIVER! It's in my contract to be weird anyways

I dunno about Zak, but is it because Shadoweh has not had a single scumhunting post thus far?  I know it's early-ish, but every one of her posts has been responses to other players or setup speculation (the latter of which is understandable).  It's what's bothering me about her, at least.  That and her tone seems a bit more inflammatory than usual, but lolmeta.  In short, she's active-lurky.

>.> Is it bad that I completely missed this? I literally only saw the later part about voting Dan over wording. I'm trying to be NICER! This does not appear to be working. >.< I'm looking over my own posts now and I don't think this is true. I'm not asking people opinions because I like seeing their posts, you realize, I want people to clarify their intentions so I can understand them better. Responses to other players is a weird term. I have quoted people and pointed out things they have said that I agree/disagree with, is this scummy today?

I'm also annoyed that one half of the setup speculation machine isn't posting and has effectively left us hanging, but I'm willing to chalk that up to frustration considering her last few posts.

[Affinity]

D1 is not a good day to burn out on Mafia, since it's the most crapshoot-y of all days due to the lack of flips, K4U.  But oh well.  I did not mean any harm to you in my above post.

capt.h is becoming stupidly exasperating.  Calls Dan for lurking and being not so derptown without commenting on his case on Shadoweh, calls Dormio derptown for voting LLD when he actually agreed with his points on her, accuss Omba (sorry) for having lots of null reads without commenting on her case on Edible,  Even his points on Schezo doesn't exactly ring true... In the end, capt.h has a fair number of arbitrary and unsubstantiated reads that I cannot condone; he's not so clear about what he thinks is derptown and what is not, and why Schezo all of a sudden rockets up to second scummiest target for him.  Also, I see no currency to his cases seeing that he never really read up on the above people's latest posts. 

@capt.h: If possible, capt.h, I would like you to answer the above statements to the best of your ability; otherwise, you are my second scum choice for today.

[Kitten4u]

I can't say I was expecting it to happen this fast. :V  I'm certainly going to look for a happy medium before I kill myself so no worries.

That doesn't really answer my question though.  I'm still wondering what made my vote look weird to you if you were thinking similar things?

[ActionDan]

Sorry guys (and cute girlies or woman or kittens).

I just got back from a long ballet that took place in New York city  (we left at 3:00pm today).

It's not the best idea to post after reading the recent posts for about 15 min, but I will get prodded anyway and town deserves at least something.

The first things I notice are people misreping me ... terribly.  Awards go out to Edible and Dormio, who can't seem to read :words:.  (God now there's a person standing over me telling me that I have to get a life and that playing mafia is insanity).  I'm sorry I have to go 

[Affinity]

As in, K4U, I did not find your vote weird at all.  I'm just saying you happened to ask the same questions I was about to ask to Schezo...

[UncertainJakutten]

The Seventh "Beginning of Day Three" Vote Count

Mod Note: LadyLambdadelta has informed me she will post tomorrow. Well, today, but you all know what I mean. Incidentally, prods will be handled at the start of each game day. If you fail to post during a game day, you get prodded. Fortunately, everyone except LLD passed the prod test. Keep it up!

Lady LambdaDelta (0)
Omba (1): Capt. h
Zakeri (1): Shadoweh
ActionDan (1): Edible
PX (0)
capt.h (4): Serpentarius, Kitten4U, Schezo, Dormio
Schezo (1): Affinity
Serpentarius (0)
Kitten4U (0)
Shadoweh (2): ActionDan, Zakeri
Dormio (2): LLD, PX
Affinity (0)
Edible (1): Omba

Not Voting (0)

capt.h. is at L-3
With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch
Game Day Three Ends at 1:00 AM, EDT, Friday

[capt. h]

D1 is not a good day to burn out on Mafia, since it's the most crapshoot-y of all days due to the lack of flips, K4U.  But oh well.  I did not mean any harm to you in my above post.

capt.h is becoming stupidly exasperating.  Calls Dan for lurking and being not so derptown without commenting on his case on Shadoweh, calls Dormio derptown for voting LLD when he actually agreed with his points on her, accuss Omba (sorry) for having lots of null reads without commenting on her case on Edible,  Even his points on Schezo doesn't exactly ring true... In the end, capt.h has a fair number of arbitrary and unsubstantiated reads that I cannot condone; he's not so clear about what he thinks is derptown and what is not, and why Schezo all of a sudden rockets up to second scummiest target for him.  Also, I see no currency to his cases seeing that he never really read up on the above people's latest posts. 

@capt.h: If possible, capt.h, I would like you to answer the above statements to the best of your ability; otherwise, you are my second scum choice for today.

I had a lot of trouble following Dan's case on Shadoweh, which kept me from commenting on it. I think it's based on Shadoweh claiming that each lynch gives scum a night kill after Omba suggested it, which I don't find scummy on its own, nor do I find it scummy that an early D1 vote not be well backed. I think Dan also went after Shadoweh for trying to keep Dormio from being lynched for stepping in LLD's traps while Shadoweh hinted at but didn't mention any of the other reasons Dormio was scummy. It's a thought-out case, but I didn't think it was a great case.

Actually, Dan, could you clarify your case on Shaodweh?

On Dormio, bluntly, I'm derp town, and if I hadn't given it a lot of time before responding, I would have done the same thing as Dormio. LLD was my first miller claim, and after the long post game discussion we had about how claimed third parties should be lynched on sight, I was thinking the same thing as Dormio about claimed millers.

But LLD needs to get back here; I haven't seen her since her apology, and I'm finding it suspicious that she still hasn't give any reads on anyone other than Dormio after her miller claim. She hasn't done any scum hunting other than attacking people who attack her for her claim, and even if miller claims are null, her game can be summarized as laying a trap, apologizing for her play, and then lurking through the rest of the day.

I hadn't read Omba's Edible vote at the time I posted; I didn't realize there was one last post at the bottom of the page before we got to page 6. Omba's case on Edible is strange, and Edible's case itself doesn't look particularly town to me. Edible needs to explain why a scum slip is scum while falling into a trap is town, or expand on his reasons for voting Action Dan. And I'd like to know how Omba reached her conclusion about Action Dan; Action Dan was Omba's first vote after all, but now Omba says he's derp town while another player was voting Dan for a scum slip. It's a strong reversal of her previous reads.

He became suspicious when he started posting. I disagree with him that Omba gave a solid opinion, since both Schezo and I agreed in our posts that most of Omba's opinions were null, and Schezo originally voted Omba for his vote on Dan.

@K4U -

I have to admit, I am not clear on your suspicions of Schezo, mostly because they were always a bit to the side while you focused on me. You also seem to have a strong read on Omba. Could you clarify?

[capt. h]

He became suspicious when he started posting. I disagree with him that Omba gave a solid opinion, since both Schezo and I agreed in our posts that most of Omba's opinions were null, and Schezo originally voted Omba for his vote on Dan.

To clarify, "he" is Schezo here, not Omba.

[Kitten4u]

Hurr, Kitten4u can read.  I see now Affinity. :V

You also seem to have a strong read on Omba. Could you clarify?

No.

...That's really the only thing worth responding to there.  I'll say it again: if you think I'm wrong about Omba stop telling me I'm wrong and show me where I'm wrong.  You also have yet to explain what about the spat made you think it was not town vs town and why you didn't bother to poke Dan and myself if you thought there was a good chance that one of us was scum.

[Serp]

capt. h:  You're doing it again!  You have your vote on Omba, but all you're saying about him is justification of why your vote was on him in previous posts.  He made a case on Edible, and you haven't even seemed to notice.  Cut:  I see that Affinity called you out on this and you've just responded.  Doesn't make it any better that you don't really seem to be paying attention to much except for what other people call you out about.  Claiming that you just missed both the post from the person your case is on and the votecount at the top of the page, combined with ignoring his posts except when you have to justify why your vote was still on him in a previous post, just makes it look to me like you aren't searching for scum at all.  I want to see you post some reads (not just questions or prods, but actual scum/town reads) on other players based on points that haven't already been beaten into the ground by everyone else.

I see that I'm having to wait for some of the other players I'm interested in.  I'm looking forward to seeing you post an actual case, Zakeri, and I'd also like to tell us when it was that you decided you were going to be following around Shadoweh like that.  Questions for Lambda will have to wait until she's said what her opinions are after all this posting she's missed.

Also finding Edible's non-case on Dan pretty scummy, but I do agree with him that letting folks defend themselves is best, so I'll be standing by to see whether he's got something up his sleeve when Dan responds and he gets to make a more full case.  Not holding my breath, though.

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

Yay! I'm back and free and ohmygodwhatisthiswhyaretheresomanywords.

To add to Serp's points, I like how capt. h's excuse for the whole miller thing is "bluntly, I'm derp town". If that isn't AtE (or whatever the hell the appropriate term is) then I don't really know what is.
And you, uh, vote Omba whilst calling ActionDan scum. Then you get called out on it, and change your ways to pressure... anyone but Omba?
You briefly mention that you think that Omba is active lurkscum in #124 and follow up it by saying that you "grilled Omba" in #155 when all you've really done is votepark.
You throw around Omba's name a few times after that, but never direct anything at Omba. Though you seem to have no qualms with trying to push for a Schezo lynch by calling him "suspicious" (#175). Also of note is that you only started seeing Schezo as funny when he moved off the person that you're supposedly trying to get lynched, despite the fact that you never really say anything about Omba.