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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #270 on: April 10, 2011, 11:11:37 AM »
orz fail counting.

Line 11: "Leaves 1 more suspect to be detected for my own "theory" " <---  should been --> Leaves 3 more suspect to be detected for my own "theory"

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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #271 on: April 10, 2011, 11:13:23 AM »
You know what, I'm going to leave my vote on Zakeri for now.

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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #272 on: April 10, 2011, 11:36:08 AM »
Well then, now for my big post.


-The first page is completely and utterly bollux, and will be treated as such..


-First, Helepolis. I can see misreading a post or similar, but not voting isn't really scum imo. I haven't really been very active because I don't usually play mafia on forums, I usually play on epicmafia. And then again, I'm not very active in those games either.


-Zakeri also does this, so I guess it's kinda normal? I don't really see the reasoning behind it, but okay.


-Captain H, the big scum favourite. Unvoting and voting someone for no reason like it was no thing. I don't get why he posted what he posted. Voting randomly is just as normal as voting for a joke reason. Perhaps I had a reason but I didn't post it? Think before you act, right? If I hadn't posted, he wouldn't have reacted... He also sheeped the vote on UK, because he was bored.... ehh


-Shadoweh. Seems pretty protown so far. Though, she randomly doesn't want to give her opinion on me and gave some pointless points.


-Then, the Bard. He's just being plain scummy. Honestly, I find policy lynching stupid. He does have a point that there wasn't a lot of serious stuff yet, but still... He's also fine with trusting someone else and randomly lynching someone. He's not doing anything helpful and instead speaking nonsense. I don't think he's scum tho, he's too stupid.


-Dormio seems pretty protown too.


-UK seems normal, too. I kinda agree we should kill people who aren't contributing, I'm sorry about my non-contributement. He/She has a point on Hele, too.


-RDJ is.. odd. Just switching from serious mode to joke mode is confusing. He/She's voting Dormio for no real reason, too. Does have some points in reply 75, tho.


-Conqueror... I don't get at all why he's selfvoting, or why Bardiche is following him. 


Eeh, I'm not sure. This'll be my vote for now..


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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #273 on: April 10, 2011, 11:42:00 AM »
-Conqueror... I don't get at all why he's selfvoting, or why Bardiche is following him. 
That changed over 100 posts ago.
If you were paying attention, you may have noticed that Conqueror's vote is now on Zakeri.

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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #274 on: April 10, 2011, 11:45:42 AM »
Also, rdj changed his vote to capt. h and it would be nice if you provided reasoning for your lovely insight.

Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #275 on: April 10, 2011, 11:53:49 AM »
Yeah, I started at the second page and just gave an initial impression. I'll give a more recent view when I return from my cycling trip.

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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #276 on: April 10, 2011, 12:08:33 PM »
So you mean, like.. tomorrow? Thanks for being useful.
We are running out of time to boot someone off Town Island. No lynches, still bad. I imagine we can't just skip the night and the nightkill, so let's get on something in the now department. I'm not convinced by capt.h yet, but there are soooo many of you I want to vote. Still surrounded by zombies.

Helepolis: I didn't know confidence was a scum trait. Your numbers are way off by the way, I imagine there's three scum and maybe a third party. Townies die in flashes in the night and need their majority. If you glance over previous mafia games you will get a better idea of the numbers.


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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #277 on: April 10, 2011, 12:22:30 PM »
@Shadoweh, 

I don't remember claiming confidence is a scumtrait. Funny, In #269, I marked you as possible scum because you keep dodging why you started defending with the others Bardiche. Nothing convincing has been said for me to stop suspecting you or Bardiche.

About the numbers > You don't say? My numbers were just assumptions and guessing. It is my own personal viewpoint on the case. I think I am allowed to do that for myself and possible other Townies who can use it as a mind-set. A third party? For a nightless setup it sounds way too unreal.

Though I appreciate you pointing me to check previous Mafia game for numbers. I'll do that.

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-First, Helepolis. I can see misreading a post or similar, but not voting isn't really scum imo. I haven't really been very active because I don't usually play mafia on forums, I usually play on epicmafia. And then again, I'm not very active in those games either.
I don't remember asking for your personal leisure time. I was asking your clarification on why you are so quiet.

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-Captain H, the big scum favourite. Unvoting and voting someone for no reason like it was no thing. I don't get why he posted what he posted. Voting randomly is just as normal as voting for a joke reason. Perhaps I had a reason but I didn't post it? Think before you act, right? If I hadn't posted, he wouldn't have reacted... He also sheeped the vote on UK, because he was bored.... ehh
Interesting, have you noticed that Bardiche was doing the same thing for pretty lengthy period? Randomly voting until now with no solid reasoning? And still doing it randomly. Have you noticed his last vote is on me? Sure you did.

Heh, I like how you carelessly  threw an excuse in #264, burning yourself first and now coming up with this post. We are almost ending Day 1 and this is all you have to say.

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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #278 on: April 10, 2011, 12:37:37 PM »
Case? On you? You probably missed it in my post. I didn't had a case. Funny how you suddenly pull that out.

I'm going to say this as nice as I can.

You want to vote either Shadoweh or me, as you declared. Yet you didn't have a case on me at all? What? Why would you vote someone you don't have a set of arguments on to justify it?

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So yea, Bardiche. You might want to explain why you are in fact being defended?

... Okay, uh, what? Do you honestly want me to explain the actions of others? What? How can you possibly, I-- grugh. What?

This is the most terrible OMGUS attack I have ever seen.

OK, so Helepolis has stopped playing the game and is just playing something else. I'm not quite sure what it is yet. Apparently I'm scum because I can't explain the actions of others, and because he doesn't understand why he's being voted! Is this bogus to anyone else? Because it's sure bogus to me!

Helepolis, how do your actions make sense? How am I supposed to explain why Person X is protecting me when I have no clue what Person X is thinking? Why are you seriously engaging this as a serious...

Yeah, sod it, I'm going to ignore you until you make sense.

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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #279 on: April 10, 2011, 12:42:57 PM »
Which means I'm also not going to leave my vote on you because maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan, you just put yourself from "scummy" to "whoah what is going on in this thread derrrrrp".

##Unvote
##Vote: Zakeri


Not willing to swap to capt h because I like the observation he made with UK and want to see more of them.

Yonowaruu should read posts more clearly, I think only Shadoweh has. :V

Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #280 on: April 10, 2011, 12:55:49 PM »
Just like Serp, Rdj's activity has dropped. All of a sudden.

As mentioned before, I've got a take-home physics midterm to work on this weekend.

I've got some 45 minutes before I leave for family shenanigans this morning; time to play catch-up.

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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #281 on: April 10, 2011, 01:01:04 PM »
I was expecting that rush post from you Bardiche. Let me sum it up again "nicely" for you as well. First of all, the double unvote/vote I made changes the post reading style. Ignore the first unvote/vote and continue to read
- You charged at me as if I had a case on you in #221. At that time, I didn't even had a vote on you back then only keeping eye. Another careless statement from you.
- #262, I quoted your #221 reply and explained I had no case on you but merely watching the bandwagon, mostly on Shadoweh's move in the upcoming hours. So again you did a careless statement
- In same #262 I pointed out you were talking nonsense and still not explaining - what - exactly was good about rdj's post.

Using that mind-set I did the unvote/vote at the end of the post just to see what the rest was going to do. Or in other words it suddenly became a case right after you failed to convince me.

Yea, go ahead you can ignore me from now on. Because you know your vote on me is useless. It was a  foolish grudge post to stir things up. And as expected, you changed your vote, confirming my statement. Now, you became another random voter and been doing it since the start.

Now tell me, which one of these is a OMGUS vote? And you cannot explain why person X is defending you? Guess why I am asking for it. Do you think that question was only pointed at you?

Wow, Bardiche. I wonder if you are going to change your vote to Capt. h next. Time is ticking and it is becoming critical for scums now.



Cut by Rdj.  But I will post this anyway.

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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #282 on: April 10, 2011, 01:05:52 PM »
Not ignoring after all! :V

Read this post, specific line;
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No, because I am going to change my vote to  either Bardiche or Shadoweh as soon as Shadoweh switches from capt h to Zakeri.

I assumed you said this because you had reason to vote me. Now you're saying you didn't. What? Why would you vote someone you are "just watching", or at least declare you're going to? Why at all were you telling Shadoweh, "If you do this, I will vote you. If not, I will vote Bard", which is an easy way for the scums to direct your vote?

And why would I grudge post in a Mafier game? Sorry, you're not UK, try again when you're her. (And even then I don't grudge her)

The vote on Zakeri has reasons I telegraphed way earlier and you really need to start reading.

Yes, I think that question was aimed only at me because it was prefaced with my name.

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So yea, Bardiche. You might want to explain why you are in fact being defended?

"So yea, Bardiche". Am I to assume this was aimed at others?

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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #283 on: April 10, 2011, 01:09:02 PM »
Also, clearly, rdj's excellence is that he finally started playing the game proper and made a post with townie-intent.

Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #284 on: April 10, 2011, 01:10:49 PM »
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I'll write you something special if you do it nicely~
I don't want anything written from your dirty keyboard. :wat:

I was hoping that after my ragequit post, you would all vote for me, and I wouldn't have to play this stupid game anymore, but I guess scum you guys would rather keep your votes on someone who still intends to play, so I guess I'll just have to do that then.

First of all, stop tormenting Capt.H. I know, I can't claim to be an expert on "Things that happened last game." but the way he's acting is exactly the same. Yes, it's sad he hasn't exactly learned what scumhunting is all about, and it's also sad that it's in his nature to pick at every single detail, but...

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I'm pretending to claim vig!
Shadoweh - Are you going to vig me tonight if I don't get lynched?
capt.h: Are you going to make a post that isn't fishing?
This is the very definition of trapping. You're actively using Capt.H's meta to get him to say stupid things just so you could punish him for saying stupid things.

Yes, I understand that you and bardiche are just having a ball, claiming five different rolepowers each, and attempting to lynch people for reasons that happened in other games, but if you are town, both of you STOP THIS NOW. I mean seriously. You are both actively getting in the way of people being able to read and understand you, and townies have no reason to do this. If you are town, STOP TRYING TO MISLEAD OTHER TOWNIES. I can't understand a damn thing about your intentions, and no one else can either judging from the fact that Capt H (And I) couldn't even find bard's actual case on me despite putting it right next to the vote. I literally though Bardiche was voting for me without even taking into account my play for this game. Seriously, I'd be willing to lynch both of you at this juncture even if I got cop investigations stating you were both town.

God damn, I though I spent all day cooling down over this, but every time I just look at Bardiche, Shadoweh, or UK, something just stirs up inside me. Something that's way bigger than actually catching scum. I am not having fun here, and I seriously wish I could even have the guts to just say I want to quit.

Well, since I'll only get lynched if I try to hunt scum (after all this game and last proved I don't get lynched when I stop.), If I were to go the logical route, I'd actually be targeting lurkers right now, starting with the more active ones. The reason for this is because we have competing town wagons, lead mostly by people who (supposedly) are town. Everyone that's been talking and arguing give off townie intent for me, so my current theory is that the scum are hiding in the shadows and riding the waves of the easy part of the game.

Dormio gets the eyebrow raise from me for pretty much just dropping in at random to give status updates. The only noteworthy posts, aside from the case he made on Shadoweh in post 172 are the general onion posts on everyone. The first list, in post 164 divided the town into "Townie" "Lurkers" and "potential people to make cases on later." Post 172 then further divided the groups into "Town" "People who are acting funny" and "Shadoweh." The second, more recent round in posts 267-268 are arguably worse. Dormio actually devolves into reporter style, and what even look like parroting the cases. I don't really see any active scumhunting here. What I see here is someone who's going "Posting many opinions is town and won't get me lynched." This isn't strictly scum intent, but I don't feel that there is any town intent coming from Dormio.
Dormio's case on Shadoweh might have been a point against this, but even when his case fell through, he just unvoted and switched to a bandwagon with such a carefree attitude.

Yonowaaru is just bad. He's been posting, so one would assume that he had been keeping up with the thread, but apparently not. He's literally giving first impression responses to things that happened on page three. Even if he's not scum, he should not be allowed into the late game.

Neoserela is very too little too late, but he's been gone for most of the day. I'll give him the benefit of a doubt for now.
Likewise with Serpentarius, who had a strong early day one, and then just kind of walked off the scene.

Hanged Hourai is the other person I think is likely scum. All I have written down for him are two posts of note, 112 where he votes Helepolis, and 181 where he continues to vote for Helepolis, and give weak prods and nudges to a bunch of other people. If you feel there's other stuff you said that I should remember, feel free to link it to me, but I doubt I missed anything on accident.

Schezo is obvscum. post 87 is an apology for not posting. Post 135 is a bandwagon oh, wow, it's actually the first vote on Capt H. Okay nevermind, that changes some things. It's not big enough to convince me he's town, since his 238 is still a few paragraph of things other people said about Capt H and myself, along with a waffle on Hele.

rdj is probably town.

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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #285 on: April 10, 2011, 01:13:50 PM »
I like how you keep revolving around one aspect of my post and very cute evading the rdj-enlightment-post (I will call it like that from now I think.)

Also, clearly, rdj's excellence is that he finally started playing the game proper and made a post with townie-intent.
Oh wait, you didn't evade it but came up with an excuse. I don't remember I was told the same when I started "playing" the game.

Please do continue this act. Eventually, your vote will change. Or perhaps your friends will manage to brainwash other people to clear your mistakes. It is one way or the other.

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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #286 on: April 10, 2011, 01:14:39 PM »
ORZ forgot to add =.=  Above post was in reply to Bardiche,

cut by Zakeri during posting.

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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #287 on: April 10, 2011, 01:18:31 PM »
It's because you still haven't, Helepolis. :V

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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #288 on: April 10, 2011, 01:27:14 PM »
This fight is interesting and all Helepolis but deadlines, we have them. Please pick a wagon and get on it. We have alot less time then it looks like if our twilight time comes from our day time. Hint Bard is not a wagon.

Zak: If only for the sake of your sanity I will tell you I'm not doing this to aggravate you and that I can't stop. Please keep playing. I'm not trying to trap capt.h, I literally just want him to play town vs scum instead of cowboys vs indians, which he made a post doing. I have no idea why you're accusing me of this last game argument. I thought capt.h was town all last game. I haven't felt that way today. So who do you want to bandwagon today?


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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #289 on: April 10, 2011, 01:31:16 PM »
I just realized you made that entire post without voting.

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##Vote: Zakeri


So who do you want lynched today?


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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #290 on: April 10, 2011, 01:34:58 PM »
~*Myself*~

But honestly, I'd probably be voting Schezo now if the town wasn't so set on lynching not-scum.

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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #291 on: April 10, 2011, 01:37:56 PM »
UK, ignore the fact that he's making these points on you for a minute. Do you still think he's scum reading his last few posts?

Not sure. I'm feeling a lot of too little, too late, really. It's desperate. It looks good on the surface but most of his points...really don't make a lot of sense. To be fair, he's slightly less scummy than Zakeri now, though.

@Hele 262: No, it would have been entirely possible. Secondly, Bamboo Forest Mafia for scum getting their buddy lynched D1. Thirdly, pretty cute how you're defending both Zak AND Capt. h.
On what grounds?

Fourthly, how is confidence scummy at all, regarding Shadoweh?

And finally...actually, let's see what Bard does himself, this should be interesting.

@Yonowaaru 264: It was cute for the first 48 hours. But now you're going to have to actually produce something! Isn't that exciting!? No, seriously, put up or die.

@Hele 269: Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....

Um, Helepolis, mafia has a VERY small minority in most cases. In a game of this size, you'll find there are only three or four mafia. Generally the distribution is 25% to 33% of players. 13 is weird in that it's usually 3 despite being below 25%. With 14, I'd lean 4 mafia. It's kind of also in the awkward spot. As for "extreme majority", 11-3 is actually a lot harder than you think.

Anyway, not much to explain in your wall except that I'll bring up why I didn't question Serp on defending you. As I said a few posts before that, I had a strong feeling you were town. Therefore an offer to defend you didn't seem as remiss. Contrary to popular belief, defending someone isn't scummy, it's just not necessarily the most town thing you can do. At best it's anti town. It can become scummy if flips are involved, depending on the nature of the defense.

@Yono 272: Hmm...where to start. First, how are you familiar with us? I thought this was your first game, yet you seem to be using meta, or trying to. Secondly, your entire post smells of eggos and non opinionation, I am disappointed. Rather than one big post on some...random players in the game, could you give me a decent post on your scum suspects and why, linking questionable behavior?

Bard 278 was about what I expected.

Zak 284: This is what I'd been hoping to see from you all game. Hell, that puts you back better than capt. h. Dare I say you actually seem town now? I apologize for frustrating you, by the way. I over reacted to what I perceived as a bad case on me. I'll try to not be so...irritating in the future. Though, for clearing Capt. H. on last game grounds, you did miss that Dormio also acts about the same way, or did last game.

@Bard 287: What do you think of the new improved Zakeri that actually has opinions on not UKs?

The Bard/Hele slap fight is likely frustrating town town. I'd appreciate it if you two could stop it and hunt scum, but I'm sure that won't happen.

@Shadoweh ??? (i.e. cut): ...oh, hey, you're right, he did completely fail to vote. Dammit Zak I thought you were cool :(

##Unvote, Vote Zakeri

@Zak cut: Wait, what? Why? Wouldn't it be better to just ask for a replacement?

Ugh, I don't even know anymore. I hate to say it but I think Zak is just defeated town. I don't want to lynch him anymore. That leaves Capt. h. who I'm perfectly fine lynching.

##Unvote, Vote Capt. H.

Zak, is there anything I can do to not make this game unfun for you?


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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #292 on: April 10, 2011, 01:42:03 PM »
A fight? Why no  Miss Shadoweh and Miss Kitten. Bardiche just remains slipping with every post he makes because he is a a random voter with poor reasoning. Just like you refusing to answer my posts and questions as well.

Pick a wagon and get on it? I don't remember asking for such advise. Especially, after I explained clearly in my reply #281?  Start scum hunting? --> see reply #281 and my previous ones for your answer.

Bardiche refueled Zakeri wagon with again no reason (random vote). Especially when the wagon stalled and switched to Capt H for very odd and unusual reasons. Most likely the only move left for him to because desperate.

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Not willing to swap to capt h because I like the observation he made with UK and want to see more of them.
It is just like Zakeri said, you and Bardiche are surely actively getting in the way of the Town. I just hope the Town people wake up and do something about this.




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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #293 on: April 10, 2011, 01:44:58 PM »
Um...did you ask me questions, Hele? I must have missed them. Feel free to reiterate them.


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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #294 on: April 10, 2011, 01:46:51 PM »
Um...did you ask me questions, Hele? I must have missed them. Feel free to reiterate them.
No I am sorry, that part was aimed at Shadoweh. You already answered my questions. I got nothing else to ask you.

Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #295 on: April 10, 2011, 01:50:53 PM »
@ Hanged Mokou #192: As of now, capt. h, but given all the content since this post was made, that may change.

@ capt. h #196: I thought "contractors might be town" was a given?

@ Zakeri #207: Even if you can't "forgive a case that's this bad", ignoring the rest of the game to pursue said case isn't helping anyone. Also, why not vote for anyone else? (cue cries of "but you did that too!", etc.)

@ Helepolis #211: I'm rather confused about what "excellence" Bardiche was talking about, too, but I didn't get the impression he was clearing me. Also, I don't think Serp's and Bardiche's votes on Zakeri were related to whatever "excellence" this was, but rather Zakeri's tunnel-vision on UK.

@ capt. h #214: Uh...Bardiche DOES have a case on Zakeri, though.

@ Shadoweh #216: More roleplay shenanigans. Not quite sure what to think of this.

@ capt. h #217: More vote hopping! And you're hopping onto a lurker to boot. You're really not making yourself look good right now.

@ Bardiche #221: I actually hadn't noticed that in Hele's post. That seems to give a different meaning to what his words imply... FoS: Helepolis

@ Dormio #228: I don't see that implied in Shadoweh's post. She does say that she'd consider voting him if he doesn't make a new case. Could be an oversight, could be a misrep; I'm not sure.

@ capt. h #241: Didn't you say earlier that there could be town contractors? Assuming that is the case, why would you have to kill off town contractors in order to fulfill your win condition? I don't really believe your roleclaim, though I do agree that UK is getting a bit aggravated.

@ capt. h #252: Again, Zakeri's tunneling caused him to ignore the rest of the game, with the exception of the Bard x Shadoweh bit, which I see as more of a joke than anything. With what's happened with you and Zakeri so far, UK pushing for both wagons is understandable. I don't see how wanting scummy-looking players dead is scummy.

@ Helepolis #262: I'm pretty sure that Shadoweh calling UK her extradimensional twin has nothing to do with this game. Also, as mentioned before, Bardiche does have a case on Zakeri that is quite valid.

@ Helepolis #269: If the spread was 8-6, it would be MYLO already, I believe. As for your suspicion of me, how can you say that my reason for voting capt. h makes no sense? At the time, that is what he was doing, and it seemed scummy to me. And just because people have similar reasoning for voting doesn't mean that they're all in cahoots; it may actually mean that their reasoning is valid!

@ Yonowaaru #272: Hey, welcome back. ...Several of your points are very outdated, as Dormio said right after your post; please quickly read the rest of the topic and repost?

@ Yonowaaru #275: ...Welp.

Up to this point, I am still okay with my vote being on capt. h, and Helepolis has become more suspicious to me. Yonowaaru isn't being very helpful. Zakeri...skimming over his post after my last one, I think he's just burnt out. Not sure whether he's town or scum; will try to read the rest before leaving and, if I can't, will try to post before day ends if there's time.

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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #296 on: April 10, 2011, 01:57:24 PM »
Helepolis: I'm not giving you advice. I'm telling you the town needs to get on someone around NOW o'clock, stop beating around the bush and lynch somebody. I'm on the verge of suggesting, I think it's called concordial voting, where everyone lists their three top scum pics and we just pick the one we all agree on, just because of how badly people are waffling right now. We have I think 7 hours which apparently includes night action time. In short we do not have as much time as you all think we do and make up your minds and VOTE SOMEONE WHO WILL GET LYNCHED.

UK my evil twin why you do dis. I don't believe in too little too late as an excuse to keep a wagon though.


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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #297 on: April 10, 2011, 02:21:55 PM »
Well, I did tell you that his case is also bad. It doesn't really make sense. It relies first on the fact that both capt. h. and Zak are town, two things we do not know whatsoever. Then it somehow concludes I started the capt. h. wagon when...I didn't? Hell, I wasn't really on it til near the end, too busy pursuing Zak. It's not a good contribution at all, and it comes after more than 2 days of failure to be pro town. Why SHOULDN'T I vote capt. h.?


Helepolis

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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #298 on: April 10, 2011, 02:26:51 PM »
Miss Shadoweh, you are doing a good job at instilling haste in people. I am sure we are all aware of the time, except for the people sleeping due to time zones.

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What makes me wonder now the most is, why is Bardiche being heavily defended by Conqueror, Shadoweh and Bardiche himself. Also Serp has been quite silent to Capt h's  vote on Bardiche's.
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@Shadoweh, 
Funny, In #269, I marked you as possible scum because you keep dodging why you started defending with the others Bardiche. Nothing convincing has been said for me to stop suspecting you or Bardiche.
Let me ask you again for the (dunno how many times):  Why is Bardiche being defended for his terrible output and voting reasons.

And if you are going to come up with an excuse, better not slip like Bardiche.

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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #299 on: April 10, 2011, 02:29:23 PM »
Mmm. capt.h, I need you to clarify some of your points for me.Show me the proof that UK was involved in the start of your wagon, preferrably with a link to where this happened.You mean why I never stated the opinion that I thought Bardiche was town when you were asking me what my opinion of him was? I'm afraid I can't answer that question, but have pointed out that your statement is technically incorrect.Zak has made too many posts defending himself, that's the basis of their cases. However since he was defending himself from the subject of his case it can be seen in my mind as pro-town, but I can't determine that until he comes forth and lays out another case. What parts of his case did you find pro-town? Please specify.

If I had to mark down the location where my wagon really began, it was UK's posts #154, 157, and 160, followed by your vote on me. By the way, I apologize for earlier, I don't need to know anything more about Bard at this time, and I seem to have underestimated role shenanigans.

Anyway, my train began at around the time I began pressuring you about Bard, and you and Helepolis shifted your votes to me placing me at L-4.



That last statement is incorrect. Zak had only made one post defending himself at the time of your post, I checked his post history. The rest of his posts were his cases themselves.

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However, I should replace "town" with "relatively town". Zak's main case was on UK, and he made a lot of posts backing it up, referencing many of UK's previous posts in his case. Basically, he put a lot of thought and effort into making a case, which is more than I can say for most players.

@rdj - You don't need to.

@all other players - if you don't believe my roleclaim, you may want to stay silent. Vanilla townies would have reason to believe my claim, while players with powers would not.