Darker than Black Mafia (Game Over Scum win)

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

Oh dear God, words.

@Caedo 164: You know what you're post is missing? That's right! Analysis! It's all well and good to report things you find off, and then just throw town vibes at people for no reason, but it'd be REALLY NICE if we could at least know what you think of, say, Serela and Conquerer outside of cute question marky faces!

Know what else is missing?
NeoSerela.
How am I meant to make a case on someone that doesn't exist?
Also, Conqueror didn't exist at the time too.

I'll be making another post to try and sort through all these words.

[Helepolis]

Timezones are a huge burden on me. But that is still no excuse I guess, though majority here still seems GMT-6/8 ? Oh well...

Anyway, your post says a lot of nothing except a very comprehensive summary of the game. Now, sure, I use those too to get my bearings on things. How about this. Can you explain to me why capt. h. is scum in 5 sentences or less? Concision is pro town (even if I find it hard to practice what I preach while catching up)

I got nothing to hide. I will explain this. It might be a very weird reason but the vote analysis still goes on for me.

First of all, Bardiche's post #178 says "rdj, I have seen the light, I was touched by your excellence and am no longer convinced you're scum! ##UNVOTE"

I was kind questioned by this reply. I backtracked to rdj's last post #138. But what is so excellent here? He self reflects on a few things and instantly becomes "clear". Furthermore, Rdj votes on capt h. but Bardiche actually votes on Zakeri because he needs to rage less? And right exactly after Serp has unvoted UK and voted Zakeri as well? I looked at the vote counts. There were 4 on Zakeri already and 3 on Capt h including Shadoweh.

The question now which puzzles in my head the entire time... What is Shadoweh going to do. Somehow I was suspecting Shadoweh to vote for Zakeri as well. I am still waiting for it to happen. Especially that Conqueror changed his vote from Shadoweh to Zakeri as well because Shadoweh satisfied Conqueror with the explanation she gave and the reason given for Zakeri? A choice between Dormio and Zakeri, and Zakeri feels more scummy according to Conqueror. What?

I never understood the satisfactory element in her post. No matter how many times I see it, it doesn't make sense. That makes 5 votes already on Zakeri, like sudden.

For this reason, I voted capt. h. Just to see what was going to happen and prevent instant possible bandwagon jump for the remaining votes. Surprisingly, the people who I didn't expect questioned my vote suddenly: Which is UK

What I am wondering is, how many of the people who voted on Zakeri are already scum. My guess it, 2 scums are most likely sitting and waiting for the votecount to become 6+. If I would vote for Zakeri now, it would be the perfect opportunity for them. But before we can realise it, it might be too late.

Now you would say like: "Wait a minute Helepolis, maybe YOU are just waiting for the 6th vote on Zakeri and then you will jump in with another scum!"

No, because I am going to change my vote to  either Bardiche or Shadoweh as soon as Shadoweh switches from capt h to Zakeri. What makes me wonder now the most is, why is Bardiche being heavily defended by Conqueror, Shadoweh and Bardiche himself. Also Serp has been quite silent to Capt h's  vote on Bardiche's.

- Why did Conqueror got that easily satisfied by Shadoweh's post?
- How come Serp and Bardiche voted on Zakeri after Bardiche was "enlighted" by Rdj's weird post?

I have the feeling the trap has been already set up by the scums, just waiting for the final person to trip in. Zakeri is being framed by a clever grouping, except I cannot figure out who the grouping exactly is, but Shadoweh and one person's move will reveal it form.

Also the biggest problem here is Neoserela's vote. It gives the people who want to get rid of Zakeri so hard extra advantage. And scums will take that advantage no matter what. This is perhaps unfair to Townies because we cannot talk to NeoSerela, we cannot ask his opinion and neither we can do anything.

In my previous vote I already questioned Bardiche. He does it again, the same behaviour but this time with support but the support goes like this : "why do you think he is scum?"  Easy to ask others "what do you think"  before giving your own statement first. That is like starting a discussion topic somewhere and saying /discuss.

So yea, UK. Even though this Vote analysis is hard to do and not very newbie friendly, It somehow is becoming what I was expecting.

In #188, UK said this "Though we have a problem. Both my suspects are the leading wagons. If I move to capt. h., I'll implicitly protect Zakscum. If I stick on Zak, I'm protecting Captain HScum here. For now, sticking on Zak. I do not necessarily find Zak scummier than capt. h. at this point."

My biggest concern now: Who will change his vote from  Capt h, to Zakeri or visa versa.  That is my biggest concern. Serp questioning Capt h's vote on Bard. Conqueror doing the same. And what is Capt h going to do? Is he goign to stick on Bard? Or he is going to change vote as well.

So many possible scenarios, it makes me confused. And here I am trying to dig through several posts, trying to explain my motives but bloody time zones. Probably when I wake up tomorrow, It will be a whole different vote count.

For now, I am sticking with Capt h with my vote.

[Kitten4u]

Voting
Zakeri(5): NeoSerela, UncertainKitten, Serp, Bard, Conqueror (L-3)
capt h(4): Schezo, rdj, Shadoweh, Helepolis (L-4)
Dormio(1): Yonowaaru
Bardiche:(1): capt h
Helepolis(1): Hanged Hourai
Shadoweh(1):  Dormio

Not voting
Zakeri

14 alive, 8 votes required for a lynch
~22 hours remain

[Conqueror]

@Helepolis

A choice between Dormio and Zakeri, and I chose the latter because it's clear that most of the people here are not going to be voting for Dormio. Zakeri coming in and not making another case doesn't really help things on his end, although if he is town, he should come in and make a good case on the rest of the game so that I can re-evaluate my opinion on him.

As for my vote on Shadoweh, her latest post explained her intentions to my relative satisfaction, much like your big post did in your case. Although I would like clarification on her fence-sitting stances on Zakeri and UK.


As for your new post, it doesn't really explain why you think capt. h is scum though, or why you are continuing to vote for him.

[capt. h]

Right now there are two wagons, one on myself and one on Zak.

Of these wagon votes, the ones that stick out the most are Helepolis?s vote on me and Bard?s vote on Zak. The problem with Bard?s vote is that I haven?t seen his case yet; he was allowed to jump onto Zak without offering an explanation of why he chose Zak. Since his vote was the forth one, and arguably the one that cemented the Zak bandwagon, I think it deserves further scrutiny.

Honestly, I can?t quite understand Helepolis?s case against me. The fact that he didn?t know scum could vote indicated that he was far newer to this game than I imagined. That?s the primary reason I haven?t voted him yet.

##Unvote
##Vote capt. h

Many of you will consider this bandwagoning. Let me tell you: You are wrong. Even if Shadoweh has outputted to get rid of you, that isn't my reason. The minority is informed. The scums know who their buddies are. Right now most likely they are trying hard to prevent obvious groupings.

However, we can see some groupings going on. Particular the people who I set my eyes on are: Bardiche, Capt. h and Shezo. However, Capt. h's behaviour, posting aggression makes me wonder: "Why". If you are a townie, you wouldn't be cause this kind of a mess to everybody. Sticking your nose in other people's business as well as spouting random words. You and few others kept on performing pressure to do something. Hoping they would slip up? ** smirks **

However, I have my eyes on Bardiche and Shezo as well. Especially Bardiche, who has just like you, started suddenly post fast and extremely defensive. Especially outputting posts which nobody asked for. So far, I am sticking with Capt. h. The following hours will most likely bring us more knowledge. I am still little puzzled about Yonowaaru.

As a matter of fact, yes, I was hoping scum would slip up. Making scum slip up is a wonderful way to catch scum, and is the reason for my pressure. You should try to make scum slip up too.

Now NeoSerela?s playing possum. It?s starting to bother me, because after Shadoweh?s anti-sanity case against her I was hoping to follow up on her.

I refer to this:
So uh, if Zakeri's posts "continue to be weak", you'd jump to Yonowaruu instead of me.

... I am totes misunderstanding this.

I meant if Yonowaruu continues to make weak cases, I?ll jump to him.

[Serela]

oh dear god that wasn't supposed to take that long

...I'm heeeeeeere! ;_; Oops. Anyway. Post! Yeah. It's right here. now I just need to type the rest of it gdi

I dislike when D1 is full of walls. Because there usually isn't a whole lot of stuff in them that is important on rereads. PoS Mafia's 300 word limit rule was cool for that reason ): Anyway, trudging through this.

The first thing that's sticking out to me is how capt.h seems to be utterly blind to the fact that Bard DOES have a case on Zak. It's like he looked at Bard's post, saw the Zak vote, and failed to read any of the words in his post afterwards. And then failed to notice Bard responding to him and repeating his case.

But, judging from last game, this is pretty much what's to be expected from capt.h anyway. Which is irritating.

...uh. More coming soon. I'm figuring I should post this first because A.clearing up capt.h's confusion and B.I don't want the bunny to shoot me for not being here because modkills are terrible for everyone.

Oh and I guess I should also respond to his >"It’s starting to bother me, because after Shadoweh’s anti-sanity case against her I was hoping to follow up on her." ummmm you were planning to follow up on someone's rvs jokevote even though we're waaaaaaaay past RVS?

[Shadoweh]

I am currently still reading, but at a glance I already know I want to vote capt.h 4 more times. That's impossible so here's some motivation for you all.

>>---->>>---->>>---->>>---->>>---->>>---->>>---->>>---->>>---->
Green thunder crackled in the radioactive sky as the survivors huddled around a rusty barrel, the flames within providing meager warmth. Another booming noise sounded off in the night, this time far too close for comfort. The group turned to watch as the gruff, no-nonsense Shadoweh waved her shotgun in front of a terrified, cornered capt.h. "I gave you my reasons, why are you still voting me?!" he cried. Shadoweh took a drag from her cigar. "You're making up reasons for voting Bard as you go. AND you won't stop calling me he. This is the end for you." capt.h tried to plea for sanity, "That doesn't sound like a vote for scum!" Shadoweh answered with a maniacal cackle. "Town? Scum?" She aimed the shotgun. "I'm the one with the vig." *BANG*
>>---->>>---->>>---->>>---->>>---->>>---->>>---->>>---->>>---->

(Nothing to see here go on about your mafia)

[capt. h]

oh dear god that wasn't supposed to take that long

...I'm heeeeeeere! ;_; Oops. Anyway. Post! Yeah. It's right here. now I just need to type the rest of it gdi

I dislike when D1 is full of walls. Because there usually isn't a whole lot of stuff in them that is important on rereads. PoS Mafia's 300 word limit rule was cool for that reason ): Anyway, trudging through this.

The first thing that's sticking out to me is how capt.h seems to be utterly blind to the fact that Bard DOES have a case on Zak. It's like he looked at Bard's post, saw the Zak vote, and failed to read any of the words in his post afterwards. And then failed to notice Bard responding to him and repeating his case.

But, judging from last game, this is pretty much what's to be expected from capt.h anyway. Which is irritating.

...uh. More coming soon. I'm figuring I should post this first because A.clearing up capt.h's confusion and B.I don't want the bunny to shoot me for not being here because modkills are terrible for everyone.

Oh and I guess I should also respond to his >"It?s starting to bother me, because after Shadoweh?s anti-sanity case against her I was hoping to follow up on her." ummmm you were planning to follow up on someone's rvs jokevote even though we're waaaaaaaay past RVS?

Hm, you know, I think you're right. I don't have a case on Bard anymore.

##Unvote
##Vote Yonowaruu

I'm pursuing where I left off. Yonowaruu seems to be avoiding the spotlight, trying to draw as little attention to himself as possible while not actually giving any input and not doing any scum hunting. He said he'll get back to us later, but I don't know when later will come.

[Shadoweh]

UK is my twin from another dimension, except for that Zakeri thing. Last game's dimension probably. Tone it down, you're going overboard in your psychotic blitz. Who besides Zakeri or capt.h would you be willing to vote for if they became an option? Please answer with at least two names.

Zakeri, the thing that people are voting you for about not making cases on anyone but UK becomes more valid the more you say :effort: instead of actually doing it. You're better then that. Forget about the stupid wagon and make a case on someone you think is scum now. Demotivation is the enemy! I'll write you something special if you do it nicely~

Helepolis: That is not five sentences or less oh dear lord. I have no intention of voting for Zakeri at this moment, though if he keeps his vote gone and can't muster up conviction I have to assume he's scum clamming up and vote accordingly. In fact I don't know where you could have gotten that impression from before now. I am so happy with my vote right now. Scum aren't going to quickly vote for a lynch. The last vote is suspect but likely to be a townie pushing against no-lynch as anything.

Conqueror: My fence sitting post means exactly what it looked like, except without willingness to jump on either side until something else glaring came up. At this moment I'd still be hesitant to vote either of them. I could go for a Dormio bandwagon right now, but not the Zak one.

So yes, capt.h is still posting from Planet Scum to me. Please die easy! If I missed something anyone asked me please repeat, I'm sunburnt and tired and the screen is fuzzy.

[Conqueror]

The last vote is suspect but likely to be a townie pushing against no-lynch as anything.

What's this mean?

[Shadoweh]

If no majority is reached there's no lynch in this game. No lynches are bad, therefore a townie may be motivated to hammer someone for the sake of preventing a no-lynch just as much as a scum might hammer a townie wagon.

[Bardiche]

Cool, Helpolis. So what's your case on me again? "He voted Zakeri!" is not an answer we can work with, you're going to have to give arguments. And arguments that go "BUT HE MIGHT QUICKLYNCH" are silly, and the misrepresentations do not put you in a bright light.

For one, I never said rdj was clear. Just that I was no longer CONVINCED he was scum. Rather, he could be, but there are scummier things about.
The second misrepresentation is saying that I voted Zakeri because he needed to rage less. I voted Zakeri because his case on UK hinges completely on "UK is UK", and this is not the world of Slayers where we can arrest people for the crime of "being Lina Inverse".

Put simply, Zakeri made a case that hit on all the things UK always does in any Mafia game ever, and then declares it is scummy. It's voting her for being herself, which is absurd and doesn't smell of townie-motivation.



Also, if Shadoweh is scummy to you, why are you telling her "Do this and I'll vote Bardiche"?

Hey Zak? Don't take this the wrong way. ##UNvote

I still think you're pretty darn scummy and will jump right back on you if you just flop down and do nothing. But right now I also want to see Helepolis lynched because whoah, man, bro, why are you telling people strategies on how to get votes on other people? Why are you misrepresenting my actions, and why are you suggesting it is scummy to vote someone who is scummy? There were three votes on Zakeri before. This means three people thought Zakeri was scummy.

I added my own version of why he is scummy but I'm not allowed?

##Vote: Helepolis

[Serela]

is shadoweh softclaiming vig, I can't tell

anyway, REREAD! Starting from the beginning.

---------------------------------------
UK stating "Shadoweh is also town" in just-out-of-RVS makes me frown. It seems very out of place, in a suspicious way. But whatever, this is a rather minor thing. But I'll be looking at you, UK *coughs and moves on*

Everytime Helepolis posts I look at it, turn my head a bit sideways, look at it again, go "awwwwwwwr", and move on still not really being sure exactly what he said. I'm not saying he's scummy, but the way he words things makes me feel like I'm talking to someone speaking a different dialect of Chinese then the one I speak, while still being Chinese. Not that I actually speak chinese. I can't remember what I'm talking about anymore, actually, so I'll just move on.

Okay, UKpost looking weird at me again!

Anyway, it's a wash. Your answer is EXACTLY what I expected from a townie. Your list trying to get us to attack noobs, however, feels scummy."

This reads to me as "Okay, you answered exactly how I think town-you would! YOU SEEM SCUMMY." Uh, what? This feels really contradictory and off. Again, in a kind of suspicious way.

Oh I just remembered I have a vote sitting on Zakeri :V Whoopsie,
##Unvote !

And then Shadoweh releases some hot steamy girl-on-ITG porn and I'm not entirely sure how to respond to that. In other news, I kind of find myself agreeing with this Zak!post.

I've indepth-ly read the rest of the game as well, and my conclusion is, there's good info on many people to be analyzed to get a estimation on how I feel about them, but I'd like our two flips to help me work with it more. My ground to stand on from which I sprout my tree of speculation, you know?

I feel UK looks funky enough in a suspicious way for me to vote her, but unless people start showing an interest in that, it seems fairly irrelevant to vote her at the moment; by the time I wake up tomorrow, there will be only a few hours left in the day, so I'd much rather have my vote where it will matter, aka on someone who might actually be lynched. Not only that, but her later posts in the day seem very solid and good, which makes me a little weary.

The two far most likely people to be lynched today judging from this point in time are Zak and Capt.h, as is quite obvious from the recent votecounts. Zak, I'm not particularly feeling to be scum. I like his posts. I don't see scummy things about them except perhaps  tunneling on UK but I'm not sure if he even DID that and I really don't feel like rereading again to make sure.

Capt.h on the other hand, has that weird case on Bardiche that wasn't correct at all even when it was made, not to mention held onto long after he should have realized he was wrong, and then afterwards he jumps on someone for being lurky. A.Attacking lurkers is effortless, easy; B.D1 is not the time to go after lurkers. This isn't even mentioning his general confusing and often anti-town-looking antics, which he seems to do all the time anyway judging from last game, but... suffice it to say, I see enough on him to be okay with lynching him today, even if I excuse the more minor typical capt.h song and dance.

##Vote Capt.h

This post too WAAAAAAAAAY too long to make >_>;

[Bardiche]

Are you seriously trying to push a misrep in after I just voted Helepolis for doing it?

[Serela]

Who, me? >:

Can I know what I'm misrepping?

[Bardiche]

Anyway, it's a wash. Your answer is EXACTLY what I expected from a townie. Your list trying to get us to attack noobs, however, feels scummy."

This, duh. I didn't get "You're town! ALSO SCUM" from that line at all, and I wonder how you got to that.

[Serela]

It just stuck out to me as disjointed. She says she has a question that shall lead her to think Shadoweh either more likely town or scum, and then she says Shadoweh answered in the perfect townie manner, except she's still scummy anyway.

[Bardiche]

I... disagree with that interpretation, but I guess I can now see how you arrived at that idea. Okay, consider my complaint there withdrawn even though I strongly disagree with that assessment.

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

Dormio-
I would like a little elaboration on why you aren't voting for the person who gives you a "scummy vibe."

Because at this point, my suspicion of capt. h is mainly just what everyone else has been saying.
I'll be willing to switch to him if the need arises though.

Anyway, on to Shadoweh.
Firstly, continues to do that weird roleplay thing.
Secondly, why are you ignoring Zakeri?
You said that you could see him either way, then claim that Zakeri is being lazy (anti-town?), that you're unwilling to go after him regardless and question anyone that does.

Warning - while you were typing 16 new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post.
Aww yeah.

But apparently the popular wagons right now are Zakeri and capt. h.
So let's look at both of them some more.
Making another post because wtfcut.

[UncertainJakutten]

@Hele 212: Wonderful, but you completely failed to do what I asked. 5 sentences or less on why capt. h. is scum. That said I do kind of see what you're looking for...I think.

@Shadoweh 218: No one . There are some things I am waiting for before I expand my focus. Everyone else has been posting decently, posting derptown, or not posting. I don't plan to push the non posters until D2. That'll give me some flips to work off of and the ability to analyze who was missing at key times and why, etc.

@Serela 222: That's nice. Why does it make you frown? What scum motivation is there? I did explain why I thought as such, so I really don't see why you're saying that except to sound dramatic and pad your post?

The second post that you find "weird" really isn't. She gave the right answer, but her other actions bugged me. Not enough to vote her, I had her at neutral at that point.

The third thing is...his posting has been terrible. Zak, I mean. Sure, I'll even grant the case on me as some ~*~content~*~. Too bad EVERYTHING AFTER IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE GAME BESIDES STUPID RHETORIC AND A NOTEABLE LACK OF OPINIONS ON ANYONE ELSE!

Ugh, whatever, I don't care anymore, capt. h and Zak are BOTH pretty terrible.

Nothing else of interest besides Serela being Serela. /me slow claps.

[capt. h]

I am currently still reading, but at a glance I already know I want to vote capt.h 4 more times. That's impossible so here's some motivation for you all.

>>---->>>---->>>---->>>---->>>---->>>---->>>---->>>---->>>---->
Green thunder crackled in the radioactive sky as the survivors huddled around a rusty barrel, the flames within providing meager warmth. Another booming noise sounded off in the night, this time far too close for comfort. The group turned to watch as the gruff, no-nonsense Shadoweh waved her shotgun in front of a terrified, cornered capt.h. "I gave you my reasons, why are you still voting me?!" he cried. Shadoweh took a drag from her cigar. "You're making up reasons for voting Bard as you go. AND you won't stop calling me he. This is the end for you." capt.h tried to plea for sanity, "That doesn't sound like a vote for scum!" Shadoweh answered with a maniacal cackle. "Town? Scum?" She aimed the shotgun. "I'm the one with the vig." *BANG*
>>---->>>---->>>---->>>---->>>---->>>---->>>---->>>---->>>---->

(Nothing to see here go on about your mafia)

Shadoweh - Are you going to vig me tonight if I don't get lynched?

[Shadoweh]

capt.h: Are you going to make a post that isn't fishing?

UK: Well, at least you gave a blunt answer. Noted then.

NeoSerela: So let me get this straight. You've indepth-ly read the rest of the game as well, and your conclusion is "Well look at all those words. Well, on to day two!". If you didn't include opinions with that post I would cut you for this. You could at least try to be someone worth killing to scum tonight.

Anyway, on to Shadoweh.
Firstly, continues to do that weird roleplay thing.
Secondly, why are you ignoring Zakeri?
You said that you could see him either way, then claim that Zakeri is being lazy (anti-town?), that you're unwilling to go after him regardless and question anyone that does.

I did not say that. Stop making me regret my limited to one vote. I've never said I was going to question anyone that went after Zakeri. I am not claiming that Zakeri is being lazy. Zakeri unvoted in his last post and hasn't made another case yet. I didn't even say I'm unwilling to go after him because in that very post you quoted I stated under what circumstance I would vote for him.

[capt. h]

capt.h: Are you going to make a post that isn't fishing?

You threatened a vig on me. That's rather important, and I'd like to know if you plan on following through.

[UncertainJakutten]

No, capt h., it's none of your fucking business. Get your head out of the fucking roles, and get your head into finding scum. You
Do
Not
Have
ANY
Other
Goal
Than
Catching
Scum.

(Unless you are scum, which you probably are.) So stop. Fucking. Rolefishing.

[capt. h]

No, capt h., it's none of your fucking business. Get your head out of the fucking roles, and get your head into finding scum. You
Do
Not
Have
ANY
Other
Goal
Than
Catching
Scum.

(Unless you are scum, which you probably are.) So stop. Fucking. Rolefishing.

UK, I am perfectly justified in being concerned when someone threatens to vig me. It has everything to do with me. How the hell is getting vigged NOT my buisness?

[Conqueror]

Why don't you make a case on why you shouldn't be "vigged" instead of trying to find out whether or not a vig exists?
Make a case on someone else instead of looking for answers to questions that can only help scum.

[UncertainJakutten]

Because if you don't want to be vigged, than you damn well stop looking scummy! Fishing to see if Shadoweh would vig you is 10 kinds of wrong.

Hey, how about this. I will totally fucking vig you, capt. h. How do you like them apples!? There you go, you know who the vig is and that she's going to vig you! Now produce some damn content!

[capt. h]

Because if you don't want to be vigged, than you damn well stop looking scummy! Fishing to see if Shadoweh would vig you is 10 kinds of wrong.

Hey, how about this. I will totally fucking vig you, capt. h. How do you like them apples!? There you go, you know who the vig is and that she's going to vig you! Now produce some damn content!

Let me rephrase that then. If I don't get lynched, will I die tonight? It's very important that I know whether or not I'm going to get NK'd.

In other words, I need you to promise that I will in fact not make it to day 2. It doesn't really matter who keeps me from reaching day 2, as long as I know I won't be there.

[Schezo]

Oh my holy... Wow today, not the best weekend to play mafia, irregardless. 

Alright so I should talk about what I think about the two bandwagons we have going on today then since deadline is approaching.  Other stuff thrown in there too for fun.

Hele:  He seems, odd but after his 211 I can kinda see where his intents are going.  That's not to say he can't be scum but that post brought a few things to the table like how Bardiche is being heavily defended, even if it was by people who overreacted to his weird actions.  Your playing of if(){ then; }statements however don't lead me to believe that you are all town.  I think it has been pointed out that you should just put your opinions out there about people anyways so that later you won't look so anti town for waiting for approval to give thoughts and being asked.  That said, he's less threatening than the other two.

Zakeri:  I find this very curious that all game he has had nothing to say about pretty much anyone except his super tunnel on UK and a bit here and there towards Bard.  Ugh, beyond that I would like him to die since he has nothing to really say about others and everything else about him has already been beat over the head with a stick.

Capt. H:  Just the fact that it took that long to finally see that his case on Bard with his overreaction was a bad one and up until just recently he unvotes.  He had plenty of time to make some case on other people and I know that there is stuff to be said but he instead takes the incredibly easy way out and hops on a lurker. He keeps going on about game speculation and I want to kill him for it since now is not the time or ever really to do that.  His declaration of wanting scum to "slip up" gave off a lazy vibe that doesn't seem to come from town because it's almost as if he's waiting for said slip up instead of actually trying to scum hunt and that does not help town in the slightest, especially if the scums never do slip up to where he can see it like he claims.  I'm content with my vote being here.

Warning 19 replies.  Good God.  I have a few other things to say but that took forever and fatigue, I'll come back soon.

[Shadoweh]

I don't see why this is even relevant since you're getting lynched today~
I would probably stop getting scum vibes from UK if she stopped being demotivational. :ohdear: Stop playing around on the Zak wagon and come join me in blissful voting matrimony.

Seriously, even if it's important to your work schedule no one is ever going to answer what you're asking capt.h so you'll have to :dwi: