Darker than Black Mafia (Game Over Scum win)

[Serp]

Serp: So, did you see good opinions, bad opinions, nice opinions in UK's post? Your vote implies you liked what you saw but your words sound like an excuse to change sides.

Don't exactly like them, but I see no scum intent in them.  My vote was on UK 'cause she was posting weak opinions and no votes.  She posted stronger opinions, posted votes, my case on her was therefore no longer relevant, and so I moved my own vote elsewhere.  My case on Zakeri has nothing to do with UK's case on him, since the post I'm voting him for came after the post she's voting him for.

If you're asking me about what exactly I read UK's opinions as, the relevant stuff is that she believed Zakeri's case as of Post #146 to be scum-motivated (a good reason to put down a vote) and that she thought Helepolis was asking for too many opinions without providing enough of his own (no explanation given for why this makes him more likely to be scum, but it's also not her primary case).  Everything else was fluff, but if I were voting for fluff this game my octothorpe key would be broken by now.

[Hanged Hourai]

Helepolis-
Good, you posted. I am now more content on where my vote is. Your text wall doesn't contain as much useful information as it looks like. Overwhelming fluffiness. The entire first 1/4 of it is basic mafia stuff and how newbs may act. My "solid argument" is that earlier, you said stuff without saying much at all, and a lot of this post helps cement my opinion in that.

And also:

Or are you just going to sum up and backtrack on actions like everybody else does here?

Considering a lot of your post is this, I would like and explanation as to why others can't and why it's A OK for you.

Dormio-
Shadoweh wasn't in your opinion post, and in your next one, you vote her with a fairly weak case. I would like a little elaboration on why you aren't voting for the person who gives you a "scummy vibe."

Cappy H.-
Not as innocently town as I thought before. Likes to wagon.

I have genuine scum reasons for a Helepolis vote

But your vote is on someone you find "fishy". Could you tell why a Bard lynch would be better than a lynch on who you find scummy?

Bard-
Unreadable as ever. I like how he handled the fake action shenanigans with Dormio and cappy h. I'm willing to err on town for now.

Zak-
I would like it if you could tell your workers power down their tools and stop tunneling.

rdj-
We still love you, come back and play? :ohdear:

Yonohoweveryouspellyourname-
Uhhhhhhhhhh, what did you say your mafia experience was again? I am eager to see that post you promised soon.


I had waffles for breakfast, thanks for asking.

[Hanged Hourai]

oh yeah

@mods- Has a prod been sent to NeoSerela?

[Hanged Hourai]

ahahaha triple

EBWOS:
That should say "an explanation", not "and"

[Pesco]

Voting
Zakeri(4): NeoSerela, UncertainKitten, Serp, Bard (L-4)
Dormio(1): Yonowaaru
UncertainKitten(1): Zakeri
Bardiche:(1): capt h
Helepolis(1): Hanged Hourai
capt h(4): Schezo, rdj, Shadoweh, Helepolis (L-4)
Shadoweh(2): Conqueror, Dormio

Not voting
None

14 alive, 8 votes required for a lynch
~27 hours remain

Neo has been prodded.

[Bardiche]

Hourai, learn to read.

I have genuine scum reasons for a Helepolis vote

This should be read as "The reasons I have for voting Helepolis are genuinely scummy".

... Consider me sold for a capt H / Zakeri OTP Scumteam.

[UncertainJakutten]

@Zak: Yes, not finding anything interesting by page two of the game that's still in RVS is still totes scummy.

Post 53 WAS me commenting on the list. The fact that you completely ignore that I said "None of them interest me in the slightest!" says a lot about how grounded your case is in reality. And then I wanted to know why Shadoweh was playing reporter in a slanted way.

Golly gee that's sure active lurking!

Post 62...is also fairly opinion failed, and my poking of Shadoweh was TRYING to move her to town or scum, since she had hit neutral. Hele at that point still seemed town. So, no, once again you fail to use reality in your case. JUST LIKE LAST TIME, EH!? Though at least you're voting me this time.

Post 73 is fucking terrible. So, good job, you have one terrible post. And it's just about the ONLY point you've brought up all game. Who's active lurking again? Who's scum, Zak? What do you think of ANY other player besides me? Because you've SURE as hell failed to produce anything that can remotely be considered real content.

I'm still content with my vote.

Also, the problem with your little logic thing is you're wrong again. It should be
One time, when I went to religious classes
This girl was mean to me.
I went to the same class again
The same girl as mean to me.
Ergo this girl is a meanie face.

I've caught you as scum doing this EXACT SAME THING before. Are you telling me it's somehow not how you show scum intent anymore?

Anyway, next post will be the catch up game.

[UncertainJakutten]

@capt. h. 162: Great, you're playing semantics. It's pretty fucking obvious I want you to get off your tush and show me some scum intent. You've instead chosen to play semantics and completely ignore my points? You know what? You're scum. Go die.

@Shadoweh 163: Hell, I'm probably with you at this point, if I can't get my Zak lynch.

@Caedo 164: You know what you're post is missing? That's right! Analysis! It's all well and good to report things you find off, and then just throw town vibes at people for no reason, but it'd be REALLY NICE if we could at least know what you think of, say, Serela and Conquerer outside of cute question marky faces!

@Conq 165: That's because Fong's gambit is dumb and a null tell. Try harder next time. Anyway, I may be voting him so let me try. I have pressured him for opinions on players several times. I have questioned his votes and tried to get him to make a case several times. He has repeatedly ignored me to play semantics or role games that have NO BEARING ON THE GAME. What town intent is there to evade reasonable questions? Cause I sure as hell can think of tons of scum intent. The cute little semantics game ignoring the rest of my last post was REALLY amazing.

@Conq 167: So...wait...uh...my case on Zak, which is that his case on me is crap AND that he hasn't done anything BESIDES his crap case on me, which is the same reason *you're* looking at him...raises eyebrows? Which way do you want it? You can't really have it both ways. Oh God, you're saying OMGUS is scummy now?

Oy vay. Look, OMGUS. Doesn't. Exist. OMGUS would be me voting Zak PURELY because he's voting me and not examining the reasoning why. Same for Zak. No, my issue with Zak has nothing to do with him voting me, it's just I *happen* to be who he voted for terrible reasons. Zak's feeling worse on me I don't feel like defending, he can do that. By your logic, I'm not allowed to vote ANYONE that votes me because they can't possibly be scummy in my eyes. That sure removes a swath of players from this game!

Finally, your vote is bad given everything else you've said. If you had multiple votes, who would you vote? Take as many votes as you like, try to order them in suspicion levels.

@Caedo 172: The difference is you both are actively trying to push a ridiculous case on Bard, and do nothing else. It does not flatter you. Secondly. Hanged Hourai was effectively rolefishing. Shadoweh had absolutely 0 reason to answer those questions. I sort of more expect town to not answer just because scum might try to use it for town cred. But that's flimsy and only is like, one or two town points to Shadoweh.

@Hele 173: This really should have it's own post but deal with it.

First paragraph: It is ALWAYS more pro town to produce more than to produce less. If you are newb town, then you should have nothing to hide. Your cagey behavior is far more scummy regardless of veteran status. Will people jump on you for your mistakes? Sure, MotK towns are dumb. The difference here is that, by not producing anything, you haven't given us any reason to think you are town. At all. The best part is you're trying to say not producing opinions is somehow pro town! It's not! Ever! The more you produce, the more your town intent shows through. All a townie has to worry about is scumhunting. Hell, you don't have to be right. Being wrong is less scummy than not being there. Scum have lots more to worry about. Intriguingly enough the things you mentioned. So you're already approaching this as scum.

Now, things get interesting. You're talking about VCA. That's an advanced tactic and I applaud you for it. It doesn't tend to work without flips though. Regardless, I'm interested in this. I'm actually referring to the last game I played before getting banned in my Zak case. It's not hate at all. If it were hate, would I not also have a case on Serp? My reasoning is that Zak has done nothing but prod me. For the same reason you're scummy, this is scummy. Kind of worse in that Zak is pretending his ONLY contribution needs to be his "case" on me.

All right, your conclusion about Serp/Zak/UK is that you notice links to us by votes. But...it doesn't say what you THINK of us. So far you're still reporting and not producing.

More reporting on other people. The Bard thing is an interesting point but I'm pretty sure capt. h. was needling Bard at that time. Feel free to correct me.

Anyway, your post says a lot of nothing except a very comprehensive summary of the game. Now, sure, I use those too to get my bearings on things. How about this. Can you explain to me why capt. h. is scum in 5 sentences or less? Concision is pro town (even if I find it hard to practice what I preach while catching up)

@Serp 177: That's why I did a tl;dr post. I can't help it you all post too much. Though...hmm...I dunno. The thing about capt. h. is he's spent a lot of time IGNORING reasonable requests for solid opinions while usually singling out one part of a post to respond to and hoping people drop it.

@Shadoweh 179: I missed it, actually. Um...I don't think it was a trap at all. Not sure where you're seeing that :S.

@Serp 180: Did you read the tl;dr post at all? It basically condenses what I think without all the post references. There's more than the two things you said. Anyway, I had covered why Helepolis' behavior was scum several times in my theory posts. Pro town people have nothing to hide, so they post more opinions. Being wrong is less scummy than not being there. Scum have reasons to hang back and not post anything of value that you can pin to them. Intent shows through the more you post and the better you post. And the more you actually say, the more your intent shows. So that's why Hele still doesn't look good. That said...even given the reportery lack of opinions in his VCA post, the USE of VCA feels like a pro town move, particularly from a newb. I'm more or less willing to put Hele at neutral for now.

HOLY GOD THAT WAS TOO MUCH.
tl;dr post forthcoming.

[UncertainJakutten]

tl;dr:

A) Capt. h. is entrenching himself in scum territory. There's a lot of derp, but I've pushed him SEVERAL TIMES for reasoning behind why someone is scummy, why he's so concerned about Shadoweh and Bard, and other things. He's instead chosen to take small pieces of my posts and act like he's answered all my questions while producing nothing. Townies produce opinions. Scum produce things that "look good". The last straw was completely ignoring my last post to say "nothing is certain in mafia". No. Unacceptable.

Though we have a problem. Both my suspects are the leading wagons. If I move to capt. h., I'll implicitly protect Zakscum. If I stick on Zak, I'm protecting Captain HScum here. For now, sticking on Zak. I do not necessarily find Zak scummier than capt. h. at this point.

B) Hele should still be scum. He's done nothing, even in that huge post of his. But the thing is...that huge post is trying. Not to mention, he's trying to use Vote Count Analysis, a fairly advanced technique that scum don't often defend against. Even giving us the IDEA is harmful to scum on so many levels. I would LIKE more solid opinions rather than reports on the game. But Hele is town.

C) Shadoweh is more or less town now, I think.

D) Conq's listings bug me, particularly given the Shadoweh vote over EVERYONE ELSE. Requoting this for Conquerer: "Finally, your vote is bad given everything else you've said. If you had multiple votes, who would you vote? Take as many votes as you like, try to order them in suspicion levels."

E) Helepolis might gain from reading the first paragraph of my @Hele 173. Also, I'd still appreciate this, requoting for convenience: "Can you explain to me why capt. h. is scum in 5 sentences or less? Concision is pro town (even if I find it hard to practice what I preach while catching up)"

That's about what you can draw from my post, though there are other minor things.

[Bardiche]

I used to rage whenever UK posted, but I find I actually don't mind her ways this time? Maybe I'm becoming dull.

Hourai, do you maintain your assessment that Helepolis is scummy?

[UncertainJakutten]

Or maybe I'm posting better?

[Janitor Morgan]

Okay, let's play catch-up here...

@ Zakeri #158: What I find odd here is that aside from your musings on Bardiche and Shadoweh, you're simply tunneling on UK and not providing any input on the other players. What do you think about the rest of us?

@ capt. h #159: You keep saying "Bard x Shadoweh plays", when all I saw from Bardiche in response to Shadoweh's post was a joke post. Trying to press for more information on that subject, when it's fairly clear that there's nothing else there, is distracting from what we should be doing -- hunting scum. "Being annoying" is also not a valid reason for voting someone, and you've been switching cases rather constantly. I feel like my vote on you is justified.

@ Conqueror #167: Your vote on Shadoweh confuses me. Look at the current case on capt. h, then look at your case on her. If you think it's fishy, that's fine, but from my viewpoint, there's more evidence against capt. h at this point.

@ Dormio #172: See above.

@ Helepolis #173: It took quite a while for your post to get into an actual argument. I'm not quite sure how Serp fits in with the Zakeri/UK tussle; his reasoning in #118 makes sense, like you said. Your analysis of Yonowaaru's activity also makes sense, and I'm curious about the reasoning behind his actions. That said, I'm still suspicious of you because of how long it took you to get into your analysis.

@ Hanged Mokou #181: I went to sleep early last night and also have a take-home physics midterm to work on. I will try to stay active, however.


Essentially, I feel that capt. h should be our Day 1 lynch; I'm still fairly suspicious of Hele because of how his actual argument was delayed by redundancy, but he's redeemed himself a bit with his analysis; I would like to hear Zak's opinions on not-UK players; and I'm not sure why Conqueror and Dormio are voting Shadoweh when both have said they find capt. h scummy.

[Hanged Hourai]

Analyzing votes, I'm sorry to say, is not enough in my book to clear someone as scummy as Hele as town, especially when the conclusion comes up as no real conclusion. After a relevant flip, I'd take another look at the reasoning before drawing more conclusions about his analysis/alignment.

And I can see that he will not likely become today's lynch, in which case, I would choose my second pick, either Dormio or Capt. H. They're tied right now on my list, but I shall await their replies to my questions before picking one.

To reiterate:

Dormio- What is your case on Shadoweh, and why does this take precedence over who you said was scummy?

PoppaCap- Why would a Bard lynch be better than who you said was your "top pick" for scum?

And Bard, out of fairness, since you asked for my opinion on this, but haven't really said anything about Hele, what are your opinions on him?

rdj Reply
And who do you want lynched today?

questionsquestionsquestions

[capt. h]

I'm very confused by Bard and Shadoweh. However, most my opinions would fall under role speculation.

Now, I know that there are town humans. However, that doesn't seem to mean all contractors are scum, if I follow what Shadoweh and UK are implying. Shadoweh did imply that town could have post restrictions as well, which for now I'll assume is the reason for the odd behavior. Thus, it doesn't make sense to vote for their behavior when there is a town explanation for it. Already this is too much role speculation, which many of you have asked me to refrain from.

Yonowaruu is really weak today, it looks like he's trying to avoid attention. He promised more posts in the future, but that doesn't account for the present. Serp is also avoiding the spotlight a bit. Zak's case bothers me. He's been weak, and the case against him is justified, but I don't like how when Serp voted Bard immediately jumped on his wagon right afterwards with a one-line explanation.

[UncertainJakutten]

What am I implying again? Also, didn't Pesco say in sign ups that the flavor break wasn't going to be like the show or something? I'm fairly not at all familiar with the flavor so...

[Conqueror]

I want to get this out first before my other post.

Capt. h, why are you still voting Bard and for what reason?

[capt. h]

PoppaCap- Why would a Bard lynch be better than who you said was your "top pick" for scum?

I thought Helepolis was playing scummy, but it would seem more accurate to say he's playing like this is his first game. He may be newbscum, but there's a much better chance he's newbtown if he's never played before. I hadn't thought of this possibility until recently, and his posts seem to support it.

@UK - You implied that roles might not say everything for a good reason. Shadoweh brought up the possibility that contractors might be town.

I didn't want to say it, but I think Shadoweh is a contractor. It's only because he brought up the possibility of town contractors that I don't want to lynch him - for a while I thought contractors = scum, humans = town. You might be a contractor as well, but the odds aren't as high.

But from Shadoweh's comments I am more confident that Shadoweh is a contractor than the alliance of any other player in the game.

[Conqueror]

Stop it.

[capt. h]

I want to get this out first before my other post.

Capt. h, why are you still voting Bard and for what reason?

Right now, just because Bard bandwagoned onto Zak on the strength of Serp's post. It could change to Yonowaruu if his posts continue to be weak though.

[Bardiche]

He's been weak, and the case against him is justified, but I don't like how when Serp voted Bard immediately jumped on his wagon right afterwards with a one-line explanation.

Zakeri needs to rage less and post more valid cases. His case on UK is not valid.
##Vote: Zakeri

Voting UK for being UK is incredibly boring. She always does this. Last game, she did the exact same thing. The game before that, exact same thing. I know because normally I'm the one voting her for it, but y'know, not today, bro. Because I have seen the light and UK is totally being UK instead of being scum or doing this active lurking hodgepodge.

Lol you, that's not one line. I'm voting Zakeri because HE IS LURKSCUM his case against UK is because UK is being UK. She always does this each and every game she's in, and in a game with so many newbies it's an obvious shoe-in to throw around active lurking and park a vote. He's pushing an obvious case in lieu of talking of ANYTHING ELSE, with his only point being "UK is playing to her meta"... which everyone usually does. Except me because bro, I don't dig metas and all.

His claim that she's active lurking is false because UK is producing content and provoking questions from town. That's not active lurking, that's engaging the game.



On Helepolis, he feels like derptown because of the reluctance to get involved and the general avoidance of touching serious things. If this behaviour keeps up too long it becomes scummy. capt h is repeating his song and dance where he avoids all scumhunting in favour of speculation. I get that he loves logic puzzles but we're aiming to get liars here.

Zakeri's the best place to vote as far as I care, and I don't give a damn if I have to write up a wall of text validating my vote or not. It still stands.


Grah ninja by more role speculation.

capt h, what is weak about my posts?

[Bardiche]

In fact, what is "weak"? You've thrown that around for all who you want to lynch. Is "weak" scummy, ill-motivated, devoid of much logic, what? Define your scumhunting here, I'm not quite sure if you're just aiming for people who are easy targets ("weak") or whose content is unsatisfying, or whose content is directly adverse to what content you expect town would deliver.

[Serp]

UK:  If I skipped over your wall and just read your tl;dr post, I'd be giving you a free pass for any scumminess contained in your wall post.

Anyway, yes, I read the entirety of both posts, and the points I named are the ones that I deemed relevant and took into consideration.  Your point on capt. h in that old post was distilled essence of waffle, and you didn't have a stance on Shadoweh one way or the other by your own admission.  Your stance on rdj was a bit more relevant, I suppose, albeit meaningless at this point.  And the rest of both posts was nitpicking and prods.  Basically, fluff.  Even if it's all true and justified, it says nothing about your alignment, and says nothing about your stance on anyone else.

I'll defend Helepolis in detail if the wagons come down to him versus someone I want to lynch and the case on him hasn't improved, but for the moment it suffices to say that I don't see scum intent there.  As for capt. h, if you had any questions for him that he didn't answer to your satisfaction, you didn't ask him to clarify by your Post #160, and you didn't ask anything else of him between then and your most recent big post.  If he's voteworthy for dodging questions, why didn't you say so when you got what you claim to be a self-evidently incomplete answer?

I'm getting cut to pieces here, so I'll just post this now.

[capt. h]

In fact, what is "weak"? You've thrown that around for all who you want to lynch. Is "weak" scummy, ill-motivated, devoid of much logic, what? Define your scumhunting here, I'm not quite sure if you're just aiming for people who are easy targets ("weak") or whose content is unsatisfying, or whose content is directly adverse to what content you expect town would deliver.

You aren't a weak poster. Zak is.

A weak poster for me would be an infrequent one, that doesn't post much content. Players that are hard to read and not very valuable, and players that simply don't bring much to the table quantity or quality wise.

[Bardiche]

I refer to this:

Right now, just because Bard bandwagoned onto Zak on the strength of Serp's post. It could change to Yonowaruu if his posts continue to be weak though.

So uh, if Zakeri's posts "continue to be weak", you'd jump to Yonowaruu instead of me.

... I am totes misunderstanding this.

[Hanged Hourai]

Capt. h
Way to dodge my question. You answered it by writing off Hele as newbtown. I'm not understanding why you want Bard dead at all.
Headacheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[Conqueror]

@UK
I was more referring to the part in your initial post where you dismissed Zakeri's case as "not founded in reality," because I found his initial case to be fairly legitimate. The rest of your case on Zak I pretty much agree with, but saying that people's votes on you are "crap" without explaining why they suck is well...bad. That said, you responded to the relevant parts of his case in #186, so everything is now.

Of course people can vote for people who voted for them, I'm not arguing that point. >_> But yes, actual OMGUS is scummy.


Oh, ordered listing, cool. Well, if I had an unlimited vote, I would probably put it down on three people right now: Dormio, Zakeri, and a distant third for capt. h.

Look at Dormio, voting Shadoweh and all for silly reasons, sorta like his vote jump on Bardiche. The big follow-up post is pretty bland - he makes a lot of statements and expects people to make their own conclusions from them, notably on Helepolis and rdj. His activity before that consisted of octothorpe shenanigans with Bard and some random conversation. 

Zakeri is still single-minded in his approach. Also, the conclusion of #158, where he admits his case isn't as strong anymore but continues to push it without a clear reason, reads like trying too hard to hold on to a case. Still, this is no excuse for ignoring the rest of the game.

If the last game is any indication, capt. h will look scummy all game regardless of whether he is town or not. I do not think he is as obvscum as everyone else says he is at the moment, but he sure is maddening.

Ninja'd: wtf man.

Not willing to vote Helepolis following his latest post. To be sure, I have no idea where his vote from capt. h comes from, but the effort is more than he's put out the entire game.

Shadoweh's recent response has satisfied me now that I get a better idea of where she is coming from. Not willing to vote for her anymore.


So...basically I'm going to vote for Dormio or Zak. Dormio isn't really getting any scrutiny from other people right now so...
##Unvote
##Vote:Zakeri

[Conqueror]

I personally haven't got a read either way between Zakeri and UK. Right now they could both be town or scum. I think the heavy language is coloring my perceptions since I see the words as scummy. I might not have directly said I felt UK was scummy but I don't tend to argue with people I think are town about opinions and I don't think she answered my question. If you did please remind me. Need more input from Zak to assess his motives.

Although, actually, I would like clarification from Shadoweh on this matter. This is like the easiest stance ever to take.

[WHMZakeri]

... Consider me sold for a capt H / Zakeri OTP Scumteam.

Only Scum would try to claim scumteams without any flips.
Seriously, Bardiche, stop being scum.

The reason my vote is still on UK is because of her case against me. It is not an OMGUS vote. I am voting scum for pushing bad cases. I am voting scum for pushing cases they themselves admit they don't even believe in. I thought I broke it down in my last post, but I guess it didn't work, so let's try again.

"So, on the one hand, I know that bad cases aren't scummy but..."
Okay, here, UK is saying she believes that the case she's about to pull on me is completely void.

"last time Zak made a bad case against me, he was scum."
Here, She completely backtracks her statement, on the assessment that because I did one thing one time when I was scum, that means that I'm theoretically always scum every time I do something that could even be called voting her for a "Bad" reason.

"Not to mention his complete failure to account for reality."
This is vague as hell, and it was added to make her case on me seem more valid than "What you're doing is not scum, but I'm going to vote you for it anyway."

If it was just her opinion post taken into account, I would have stepped off to look in other directions, but I can't forgive a case that's this bad. I've been impartial, unbiased, and even somewhat supportive of cases on me before when I realized they had good points, but this case is literally just UK trying to find a reason to start a counterbandwagon, and failing to find one at that.

I've caught you as scum doing this EXACT SAME THING before. Are you telling me it's somehow not how you show scum intent anymore?

This isn't how meta works. I do one thing once, and suddenly, every time I do something like it, I'm always going to be scum? What exactly makes you think it's not because I think your actions and cases are scummy? In fact, what makes other people think it's not because you might be scum?

...

*sigh*

Of course, with post 188, my original case on UK has completely been conceded, and logic is even going so far as to suggest she's town. This is highly frustrating, since all of my hate now has no place to go, and the best I could do to blow it off now is just calling her an idiot, which isn't useful at all to town, nor my own self-esteem. This absolutely kills my motivation, but whatever.

##Unvote: Uncertain Kitten

Cut: Man, I really don't feel like rereading, and even if I do, it feels like people aren't even voting me for things I did this game. UK's voted me for being scum last game, Bardiche and a few others are voting me for being lurkerscum last game. You guys are making real good cases for me not to play anymore. Basically, the only person who I would even let slide for my wagon is Serpentarius.

[UncertainJakutten]

Well, no, it's more the fact that you've said nothing about any other player except me. Or are you going to pretend that's not a thing that happened? Because you know, I'm voting you for that too. Probably more so than the original terrible case.

So, way to try to discredit the wagon on you when it's for reasons found in this game, proposed by several people.

[Bardiche]

I'm just joking about the lurkscum accusation, bro.

Your entire push on UK was just for UK playing as she normally does, which to me felt/feels like an easy stance to take. NOW you better underline what the crux of your point was, which is clearly better, and if you are willing to also look past UK I am perfectly fine with lynching other people.

Now, keep your pecker up, and if you want me to cool it on some accusations or at least quit joking about the lurkscum from past game I will do that. I don't want to demotivate anyone, I just like playing outside my regular meta often. So that I don't have regular meta. :V