Touhou 13 ~ Ten Desires announced! - Thread II (Reitaisai 8 scheduled!)

[Mimachiro]

Marisa's speed kills me more than her hitbox, especially when moving through a packed pattern. Little nudge intended turns to big jump, followed by pi-chuun~.  But I love the speed for the beginning stages, since it makes getting power ups easier, so... win some, lose some.

[ふとくていなねこじょおう]

I notice the difference, but yea it's the speed that usually gets me, not the hitbox XD.

Agreed. They're either too fast (dammit Aya!) or too slow.

[Drayen]

I've played touhou so much, I've never noticed reimu's hitbox being different.

If it's differently, it's not smaller enough to make a difference, it's purely psychological stuff.

[nintendonut888]

I've played touhou so much, I've never noticed reimu's hitbox being different.

If it's differently, it's not smaller enough to make a difference, it's purely psychological stuff.

Everyone says this, but that doesn't explain why playing the exact same way with Marisa as I do Reimu causes me to die six more times in SA stage 4 than normal. Of course, this may be because I run a high-risk playstyle. >.> Still, my original point is that shot types should be balanced by their speed and shot, not by giving two or three shot types a smaller hitbox for an arbitrary reason.

[LHCling]

Drayen: I've played Touhou so much, I find the slightly different sizes completely and utterly obvious due to what I do in most runs; supergraze  B)
Okay calling EoSD hitboxes the "perfect" size is only something I can barely relate to. Reimu smaller box is just something that's been done (and is still being done) as hm, let's say as an "intrinsic". It balances out (in most cases, at least):

arbitrary reason

lrn2skor

As far as I'm concerned, if ZUN doubled the hitbox sizes straight up, I'd still consider Reimu's hitbox an advantage.

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[Zengeku]

I've played touhou so much, I've never noticed reimu's hitbox being different.

If it's differently, it's not smaller enough to make a difference, it's purely psychological stuff.

Clearly you haven't played SA lunatic enough then.

[ふとくていなねこじょおう]

Clearly you haven't played SA lunatic enough then.

Thank you for bringing back nightmares. 

[Drayen]

Everyone says this, but that doesn't explain why playing the exact same way with Marisa as I do Reimu causes me to die six more times in SA stage 4 than normal. Of course, this may be because I run a high-risk playstyle. >.> Still, my original point is that shot types should be balanced by their speed and shot, not by giving two or three shot types a smaller hitbox for an arbitrary reason.

high-risk is probably it

That, and different movement speeds.

And i played plenty SA lunatic.

[ShadyK]

Guys ive only played SA normal and I can say that there's a (at least to me) significant difference in the hitbox.  Like for me utsuho is vastly easier with reimu than marisa.  And that mvmt speed doesn't help.  Then again maybe im just not that good 

[Fast Fanatic]

Movement speed doesn't matter at all when you've been playing at 90FPS for a week. Or at least when you go back to 60FPS. At that point it doesn't matter how fast you move but just how quickly you kill everything (Marisa in EoSD and PCB, Scarlet Team/Youmu Solo in IN, MarisaC in MoF, ReimuA (lolneedles) in SA, anyone but MarisaB in UFO)

Last I checked Marisa hitbox was literally one pixel larger than Reimu's in diameter.

[Tengukami]

So I hear Touhou 13 is coming out soon.

[Fast Fanatic]

Mmm. 13.

I can't wait to play it at 90FPS and everything.

[Mimachiro]

90 FPS? I wonder what those spirit things would look like going at that speed?

[Zengeku]

And i played plenty SA lunatic.

With Marisa too? How much is plenty? Who have you 1cc'd with?

Thank you for bringing back nightmares. 

Playing as Marisa, the game indeed is a nightmare.

[Guest]

So I hear Touhou 13 is coming out soon.

Define "soon". Is it sooner than Reitaisai 8 or not?

[Savory]

I'm still frustrated that I haven't been able to beat UFO >_< 

I've 1cc'd LLS, IN, MoF and SA (and beat PCB...with a continue...dammit Youmu!). And thus far, I've reached Byakuren about 4 times and lost. After that, Shou just kills me. I am not a hardcore gamer at all. Though on topic of hitboxes, I managed to 1cc IN without even knowing about Focus Mode, where the hitbox is visible. Once I figured it out, I was able to 1cc MoF and SA. It made SA a bit easier.

[Helepolis]

I'm still frustrated that I haven't been able to beat UFO >_< 

I've 1cc'd LLS, IN, MoF and SA (and beat PCB...with a continue...dammit Youmu!). And thus far, I've reached Byakuren about 4 times and lost. After that, Shou just kills me. I am not a hardcore gamer at all. Though on topic of hitboxes, I managed to 1cc IN without even knowing about Focus Mode, where the hitbox is visible. Once I figured it out, I was able to 1cc MoF and SA. It made SA a bit easier.

Werent hitboxes like available in pcb as well? How could you like not known about focus mode puzzles me. It is like impossible to miss next to shooting and bombing.

[ふとくていなねこじょおう]

Werent hitboxes like available in pcb as well? How could you like not known about focus mode puzzles me. It is like impossible to miss next to shooting and bombing.

I am ashamed to say it's happened to me, too. 

Also, what's this hyper mode I've been hearing about?

[Zengar Zombolt, Darksteel Colossus]

I guess they mean DOJ/DFK Hyper mode?

[Drake]

Judging by the weird Marisa screenshot people have theorized a possible hypering system for 10D, where you trigger something and then your player gets powered up and everything dies quicker. Scoring is probably involved too.

[Gpop]

I am ashamed to say it's happened to me, too. 

Damn that takes pro skill girl, you got some to even managed that

[Tengukami]

I am ashamed to say it's happened to me, too. 

Same here. For me it was with MoF though. I kept plateauing at Stage 3 because of it.

[ふとくていなねこじょおう]

Same here. For me it was with MoF though. I kept plateauing at Stage 3 because of it.

PCB and IN for me. I discovered it by accident. 

I can now survive Prisimriver hell.

[Naut]

Playing as Marisa, the game is significantly better.

Fixed that for you brah

[soーnanokaー]

Oh wow, what a conversation about hitboxes! You guys have given me a good read, haha.

On the topic of Reitaisai 8, I got pretty lucky cause I'll be on my vacation in Japan during that week! What a nice present while I'm away~
I'm really excited to see how many, if any (and other than the obivous Marisa, Reimu, and Youmu), returning characters there will be as well as what kind of new characters we'll get. I imagine Yuyuko would be in there somewhere...

[Jq1790]

Unless they do an IN style stage 4 gimmick, isn't that kinda unlikely?  I mean, Youmu's not exactly likely to be carving up her mistress, I'd think.  Though, if she (Yuyuko) gets manipulated by someone or something...Then, possibly she'd have to be beaten up a bit to remove the issue, but who can say?

[soーnanokaー]

Well anything can happen in the story, so yes, who really can say? I'm just making a guess~

[Mimachiro]

It's almost guaranteed Yuyuko will appear, but only in one of Youmu's endings. I doubt we'd see her as a boss, though her being manipulated and appearing as a stage four boss is certainly possible (and would open up returns for Yukari, for Reimu, Alice, for Marisa, and Suwako/Kanako, for Sanae).

[Tsalop]

When I first read Zuns blogpost - I immediately though about the Story of Eastern Wonderland with changed cast.
But then again Mima was evil deity / spirit and Zun wrote about holy spirits (?)...

I personally hope that Zun doesn't use the circular healthbars from the Fairy Wars but judging by the screenshots
that will be the case.

Well, can't wait till Reitaisai to get to play the trial.

[Drake]

Yuyuko being manipulated by anything

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