Mafia Rule Mafia - Postgame, Town Win

[Shadoweh]

Are you seriously saying we need to lynch Conqueror TWICE because he can block it the first time? God I screwed up not lynching you yesterday. I've never seen Governor used, will it just stop the lynch and redistribute votes or does the person with second-most votes get lynched? If the answer is the first I'm ready to vote for him now and get that power overwith.

Anyone making a case on Schezo because of the mod pm needs to realize their case is based on a mistake Scum Schezo ISN'T CAPABLE OF MAKING.

Here's the thing about you Iced Fairy. I completely believe you have a roleblock ability. I believe it because it clears up the last bit of confusion from Night 1. Let's go over this just once more, using the order that by process of elimination we know has to have happened.

Order of Events: Bardiche's Twist -> Pesco's Link -> Hourai's Protect > Other.

Remember that Scum doesn't know redirects take place first either. Bardiche uses Bus Driver on Edible. Here's what I think is the missing action. The Scum roleblocker tried to roleblock Pesco.

[Iced Fairy]

Are you seriously saying we need to lynch Conqueror TWICE because he can block it the first time?

Do you honestly BELIEVE that roleclaim?

Remember that Scum doesn't know redirects take place first either. Bardiche uses Bus Driver on Edible. Here's what I think is the missing action. The Scum roleblocker tried to roleblock Pesco.

Problems with your theory:

1 - I join day 2.
2 - I still have my one shot roleblocker.
3 - If Bardiche is Virusing, Conqueror is Restricting you and me from the future sent back to the past is roleblocking, who is night killing?

[Doll.S CUBE]

Jerks are playing DotS without me :<

##Unvote: Schezo

##Vote: Conquer

Anyway, I'm gonna lay off Schezo now as it's better to go after a practically confirmed scum then it is to go after a suspected scum. Also, if Conq turned out to be not scum, well....hmm.

As for Opinion

IF: Good analyst of things and the fizzles could be just really bad luck or something. I believe IF to be town but not then I'm not a reliable source of observation.

Schezo: Seems emotional and can get a bit tunneled. I somewhat suspect Schezo is scum but that's mainly because of the Hourai vs Schezo thing.

Edible: I suspect edible more of scum then Schezo but no enough. Also I would say more but I forgot what edible's posts are like generally as I write this...

Shadoweh: The most towny to me. That is all.

Dormio: I nearly forgot about you, you need to post more, even I'm posting more. 3rd most towny to me.

Conq: Duh, most scum at this point. That is all......

Yeah I don't have much of a opinion on Conq and Shadoweh.... -_-
 

[Shadoweh]

Do you honestly BELIEVE that roleclaim?

The flavor part? Hell no. I know that's where his post restriction power goes. The part about Governor? Yes.

1 - I join day 2.
2 - I still have my one shot roleblocker.
3 - If Bardiche is Virusing, Conqueror is Restricting you and me from the future sent back to the past is roleblocking, who is night killing?

I thought about this.
1: That should clear you right? But is it that crazy to think huh what let the scum team use your power suite? Or that one of them convinced Polaris to send in the night action so they weren't at a disadvantage?
2: If you never really had to use your fourth power you should indeed still have one roleblock.
3: Bardiche did the night kill, his virus specifically says he can.  (Edible can clear if I'm incorrect here)

Doll: If you get the cop I would appreciate it if you copped Iced Fairy. Waiting for the other town to me to post now.

[Iced Fairy]

2: If you never really had to use your fourth power you should indeed still have one roleblock.

Except they're all one unique shots.  One of each and a single repeat.  And I used the repeat last night on Conqueror.

I'd like to argue that roleblocking Pesco is stupid too, but since you're claiming someone else did it for me I can't really defend myself against that accusation.

And once again.  DOLLS DON'T POST OUR TARGET.  THERE IS A ROLEBLOCKER OUT THERE.

[Iced Fairy]

BAH!  INFOBLOCKER.

Ugh I'm going back to my essay.

[Serela]

Hey Look, a Votecount!

Conqueror (3) - Schezo, Dormio, Doll.S
Schezo (0) - Doll.S
Shadoweh (0) - Schezo
Edible (0) - Iced Fairy

Not Voting: Conqueror, Iced Fairy, Edible,  Shadoweh

Doll.S has been promoted by Iced Fairy, Schezo, Shadoweh, Dormio

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch. Conqueror is at L-1! There are 51.5 hours left in the day.

[Shadoweh]

There's actually an easy way to prove some of this but I need to wait for the other players. Please wait warmly until cases are ready.

[Edible]

I still haven't seen much, if anything, that would make me consider IF as scum.

I still believe Schezo needs to be lynched, but given we have what is effectively an if-then scenario between Conq and Shadoweh for scum determination, I believe our best bet is the Conq lynch today.

@Shadoweh:

1) To answer your questions about governors, in my experience in games of this size it is rare for a governor to be able to prevent their own lynch, but it's not unheard of.

2) Can you explain this statement?

Anyone making a case on Schezo because of the mod pm needs to realize their case is based on a mistake Scum Schezo ISN'T CAPABLE OF MAKING.

Why not?

If you can think of a scenario in which Schezo told the truth about his role and HW didn't lie about it, I'm all ears.  Until then, lynch all liars - period.

[Shadoweh]

Why not?

If you can think of a scenario in which Schezo told the truth about his role and HW didn't lie about it, I'm all ears.  Until then, lynch all liars - period.

The simplest answer to that is Schezo misunderstood the wording. How is it impossible to see that scum Schezo, already knowing Hourai would flip town, would have no reason to claim Hourai was lying? Especially not in a way that would doom him the next day.

Can you confirm that the wording of the twist would let Bardiche pass it to you as well as nightkill?

[Edible]

The twist quite specifically states you cannot use any abilities at night except it and a night kill if you have one.

[Edible]

Remember that Scum doesn't know redirects take place first either. Bardiche uses Bus Driver on Edible. Here's what I think is the missing action. The Scum roleblocker tried to roleblock Pesco.

Oh, right.  I thought about this problem before bed last night.

We're missing K4U's night ability, it may have been her.

[Shadoweh]

No, I thought of another possibility but I need to say this now before someone hammers. Iced, if you're town, roleblock Dormio tonight. As long as you do that there should be no way Doll gets blocked.

[Iced Fairy]

I was gonna do Schezo or Edible tonight because we know Dormio's been doing useful things but if this will get you hunting real scum again sure.

[Edible]

I would personally prefer Schezo, but clearing my alignment might be useful as well.

Frankly, I'm concerned Doll will simply forget about using the ability at all.

[Shadoweh]

Don't give me nightmares Edible I'm being hopeful here.
I wouldn't mind if Doll used the cop on either you or Schezo just so you can stop trying to lynch each other, but I've made my preference clear.
Guitar Hero says my post will continue to be sleep deprived and cranky so I apologize in advance.

[Iced Fairy]

I would personally prefer Schezo, but clearing my alignment might be useful as well.

Frankly, I'm concerned Doll will simply forget about using the ability at all.

I don't believe even Dolls hits that level of incompetence.

On the other hand I just realized annoucing my target is just as stupid as announcing dolls, since if said person gets night killed I look guilty as sin, so I'll pick randomly from between my three suspects and announce before Dolls (so no one can accuse me of just claiming off of Dolls choice).  That should clear 2 people.

[Shadoweh]

Just waiting for Schezo now..
Iced I should point out if you roleblock Edible scum can kill him, so that's probably out of the question.

[Conqueror]

The only thing I can add is this roleclaim is a joke.  Look at the morning flavor, then back to Conqueror's posts.  DO you see a connection?  Cause I don't.  Oh and look, an excuse for not voting!  How handy to have in a role.

Not to mention that huhwhat would have to figure out how all the night actions resolved, tell Conqueror the details in advance, then Conqueror would have time to think about what the flips ment before going on to the next day.  Do you see such thought reflected in his posts?

I have a QT with the mod where we discuss writing the flavor. He gives me the relevant info for the next day (without revealing anything else) and I am free to fill in the blanks. I'll admit I didn't do much with it as it's mostly a "for fun" ability unless you have the time to write up something really nice.

Are you seriously saying we need to lynch Conqueror TWICE because he can block it the first time? God I screwed up not lynching you yesterday. I've never seen Governor used, will it just stop the lynch and redistribute votes or does the person with second-most votes get lynched? If the answer is the first I'm ready to vote for him now and get that power overwith.

I can't prevent my own lynch, that would be OP.  :ohdear:

Shouldn't you be, you know, actually doing stuff if you're town and want to save yourself instead of lurking?
Or are you going to continue to do that "I'll look at you later" thing?

I can't hear you over the sound of the train. :V
In all seriousness, I would type up a nice post-by-post analysis on why every last one of you is scum, but I currently lack the motivation to do so. The alternative lynches are Shadoweh (But who wouldn't think Hourai was scum, really?), Schezo (not really feeling it, even though he threw out a Hourai-level misrep yesterday), and Edible (who doesn't say much and is thus hard to analyze).

Oh, and just for consistency's sake, because my case on you hasn't changed since last time.
##Vote:Dormio

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

orz.
My router got reset and I got disconnected from a game of DotS.
Anyway.

In all seriousness, I would type up a nice post-by-post analysis on why every last one of you is scum, but I currently lack the motivation to do so.

Because if you're town and about to die, not leaving any information that could be used the next day is the best course of action, right?

More DotS now, will make another post later provided Conqueror doesn't get hammered.

[Conqueror]

Because if you're town and about to die, not leaving any information that could be used the next day is the best course of action, right?

All of you have jumped on my wagon for the shoddiest of reasons. You don't even have one, but you're certainly not alone there by any means! Edible pushes me as the best bet without outright making a firm stance. Iced just writes me off as obvscum for some unknown reason that he never states. Doll...

I'm pretty sure Schezo is one of the only people who has bothered to make a proper case on me, but I don't remember all that well.

[Edible]

Edible pushes me as the best bet without outright making a firm stance

How's this for a stance?

All day effects thus far have had something to do with their actual role.  Shadoweh claims to have seen yours as a Virus Outbreak, which gives everyone a post restriction, and we know there's a post restrictor in the game (or shadoweh was faking it, and if this is the case I will freakin' applaud her post-game).  Naturally, a virus outbreak and a governor don't have a lot in common.

Therefore, either you are lying or she is.  Which means one of you is scum, barring the unlikely scenario in which you are lynched, flip town, and cause a post restriction the next day.  I like those odds.

[Conqueror]

Well, Edible has satisfied me with his explanation, at least. The rest of you really haven't, but unfortunately there's not much time for that!

##Enable
##Vote:Conqueror

Enjoy your post restrictions.  :V

[Edible]

rofl

Who's the other scum, then?

[Conqueror]

Oh God this game was horrible.

Who's the other scum, then?

I don't know; I'm actually a Survivor type. I win if I get the most total votes in the game without dying.

[Edible]

Riiiight.

[GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em]

Hammer shut up.

[GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em]

(i apologize for the late and rushed update, was kind of busy and my internet is being slow and argh)

What's with all the scum self-hammering in this game? It's like they want to give themselves up.

Or... apparently Conqueror is a survivor and not scum, now? I would ask him for confirmation on this within the magical flavor-writing quicktopic, but unfortunately, that does not exist. Because Conqueror was actually playing Rule 1, Scum Restricting Rolecop, and he was lynched. Just now. His death activated the Virus Outbreak day effect.

Just what we needed, more confusing viruses.

Anyway.

..:::Night 4:::..
.::Active Day Effects::.

• Virus Outbreak - All players will be given a posting restriction during the day. Effects for breaking the restrictions may vary.

.::Upcoming Day Effects::.

• Currently none!

You have somewhere from 24 to 48 hours to send in your night actions.

[GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em]

(Again, apologies for the absense and generally rushed post, been having personal issues suddenly. This should hopefully remedy itself soon, not too sure though.)


Lots of viruses going around these days, if the last two scum flips have been evident enough. Lots of posting restrictions going around, too. Hopefully this won't corrupt communication too much.

Speaking of posting restrictions, I'm sure you all remember how Shadoweh was already plagued by one for the entirety of Day 2. Well, it seems that she won't have to worry about a second restriction after all, though perhaps not for the most pleasant reason.

Shadoweh, playing Rule 4, Townie Effect Cop, has been killed overnight! Her death triggered the Shocking Revelation day effect.

..:::Day 5:::..
.::Active Day Effects::.

• Virus Outbreak - All players will be given a posting restriction during the day. Effects for breaking the restrictions may vary.
  
• Shocking Revelation - The first player to be voted in the day will have the name of their Day Effect revealed.

.::Upcoming Day Effects::.

• Currently none!

You have 72 hours to decide on who to kill. With five alive, it takes three to lynch.

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

Okay, so the current survivors are Iced Fairy (Tetris Block), Edible (Hammer Bro), Schezo (Riot Leader), DollS () and me.
I know for a fact that those are Iced Fairy/Edible/Schezo's roles.
Anyway, best timing to start the day, I need to head out to uni within the hour.