Mafia Rule Mafia - Postgame, Town Win

[Bardiche]

Arright, thanks. Curious what someone wanted to tell me at night.

Other agenda points are Votecount s'il vous pla?t. Has the anon-vote disappeared yet?

Do we have news from Conquerer, Doll, Zakeri yet? Three absentees and an anon-vote on the table. It's either Hourai, one of those three or I who placed that vote, and to me it's Hourai and the peanut gallery.

Iced Fairy, what about Schezo do you like? You say he made good points on Shadoweh, please submit which points are good and which are false claims?

Hourai, are you OMGUSing?

[WHMZakeri]

I wanted to wait until tomorrow, after I had some sleep to make a post.
It is now tomorrow, but I forgot to sleep.
Oh well, all of my posts are made best when I'm sleep deprived.

I thought Conqueror was still playing, but I guess not from everyone's posts and the votecount.
Then why is he still in the player list? Hmm...

I'm too tired to vote someone for something stupid like "What they said their night action was." or "Because I don't like their reason for voting another person who I'm not certain isn't scum yet."

Bardiche
Voted PX for the wagon hop on Pesco.
Reasoning for the vote never evolves as more info is added.
Provides light opinions on Dormio, Jabs at Doll.S (doesn't switch votes.)
"Between Pesco and Edible, I choose PX." Was there really no one else to consider voting for by that time than those three?
My favorite part is when instead of providing Wagon analysis, or personal opinions during the nightphase like a person who believes they can be killed during the night, and wishes to help town would do, he just attempts to wave a baton and conduct the midnight symphony orchestra. Did you really think you were being helpful attempting to tell everyone to target Edible?


Pesco
Calls Dormio and PX for wagon hopping onto his own train. Strikes heavily of OMGUS.

Yeah Dormio's at least trying in a much more transparent way. Sticking with my vote change.

Half-hearted attempt at self-reassuring that his vote belongs where it is. Pesco seems very insecure this round.
Pesco: How many people are you allowed to link with?


Hanged Hourai
Ended up voting PX for switching his vote to him even though Pesco's case wasn't solved. Somehow, Hourai seemed to have done a good job making his vote flow naturally from Shadoweh to PX. Either lucky scum, or town, and picking lucky scum falls on the wrong side of WiFoM.


Conqueror

Vote on Hourai in #150 came out of almost nowhere

No it didn't. Rereading PX's posts, Hourai was his second target. There's nothing wrong with questioning a second target, as oppose to tunneling your first.
Con's vote on PX seems like a bandwagon hop here.
Also of note, the only one who voted for K4u on top of being on the bandwagon. I already explained yesterday why I didn't like this. K4u's flip only enhances this.


Schezo

##Vote: Doll S.

Ok, can we get this out of the way now?  I mean obvious active lurking, and not having an opinion or a vote when the day ends.  No.

:*Finally, Someone who speaks sen-

If you knew people were going to fall on top of you for [anonymous voting], why are you pushing it just to see how far it goes?

Unvote:
Vote: Shadoweh

:fail:
Vote on PX seems to be emotionally charged. Many original reasons seem to be stacked neatly. The presentation of the anger towards PX's stupidity seems to imply he believed in his words.

In short, Hourai and Schezo are getting a slight pass from me for the PX Wagon. However, Pesco is making wierd blips on my brodar that make me think he's some sort of third party (Forced day one recruit lovers and cult both come to mind). I thought I was going to vote Conq today, but even with the double badwagons, Bardiche's suspicious behavior really edges him out in front.

##Vote: Bardiche

Also, if anyone wants to get a free pass from me tomorrow, I promise to ignore anyone who just happens to leave their vote on Doll.S for the rest of the day. This may change (keyword:) if he makes a decent post today.

[WHMZakeri]

Oh well, all of my best posts are made when I'm sleep deprived.

I knew that sounded weird when I typed that line, but I couldn't figure out what the grammar was suppose to be until after I posted it.

[Pesco]

Only 1 waifu at a time. Once married, it's for life.

And I certainly didn't want Bard for a waifu.

I'm too tired to post today.

[Iced Fairy]

Bardiche : Schezo's correct in pointing out anon voting as antitown and Shadoweh's bad role guessing shenanigans.  However the bulk of his case is just garbage misrepresentations of her posts.  I feel the case on shadoweh is terribly weak.

Cut: And a Zakurei post.  With content.

Agree with Bardiche being handwavey on D1.  I thought he might be backing Pesco but the link shift is weird.  Maybe  should avoid that wine.... Going to recheck Conqueror's K4U vote.

I'd note you weren't appearing often either in the discussions, but that has changed and for the better.  Hopefully Conqueror will bring something similar to the table (or else). If Dolls did as well we'd be doing real good, but as is we're moving along a double lynch day with 2 lurkers.  Not good.  Fix this you two.

[WHMZakeri]

Schezo's case on Shadoweh is bad, and he should feel guilty for considering it over Doll.S
I mean, really, this is her first game (it is, right?), what would you expect her reaction to anonymous voting would be besides "Oh neat, I wonder how this works!" It's not like the topic even comes up in that many games, either.

[Shadoweh]

to night lurker i say the exact wording is something happening that is not in the interest of my alignment. i think it makes more sense as a move by the red colored team then coming from a townie who does not like my grammar.

takeover king still has time to start posting. lurking more then the adorable blue feline that we lost would be a bad strategy today.

i think moe maker of moppets is an easy misguided lynch. today we have an effective second lynch that can work like that vigilante shot i always wanted but town needs to seriously consider if they are voting him because he is on the red colored team or because they do not like his style. even saying this if we are going to lynch moe maker of moppets today is the day to lynch him. if i were not suspicious of crown boy i would push harder for this lynch. i have been trying to avoid saying oh my god you suck to crown boy but it is getting ridiculous.

either crown boy or takeover king would be my favorite lynch at this moment. i still do not believe red doll boy but am willing to hold off for today. koumajou densetsu fox is still suspicious but is possibly misguided lynch material.

cut by best outfit ever and you are correct. i still believe someone openly testing what anonymous votes look like is preferrable to having no idea what to expect when the red colored team starts using the votes.

[Shadoweh]

for the sake of clarity.
## unvote
## vote schezo

[Pesco]

I expect scum are competent players who NK people that are potentially threatening to them. In other words, fuck y'all I'm speculating the NK.

Hourai and Schezo seem like the main ones with any motive to NK Kitten. Conq didn't get another mention later on, she wasn't particularly interested in pursuing him anyway. Her final words have more weight on pushing Hourai since she's more aware of what's wrong with him. I'll need to reread Schezo in isolation to try see what she saw there. That's the game-related side of it.

Mindhax analysis says it's Schezo. When you play scum with someone and communicate a lot, you get to know them. The more you know a person, the greater you'd fear their capabilities. FAV NK'd bofh in Dwarf Fortress because she knew exactly how dangerous he was as scum, too bad the reverse doesn't hold when bofh is town. I'm drawing the same conclusion here. Schezo would NK Kitten out of fear of her play-ability.

[GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em]

I'm tired. Have a votecount anyway.
Pesco (2) - Edible, ????????, Iced Fairy, Shadoweh
Hanged Hourai (2) - ????????, Shadoweh, Pesco, Dormio
Polaris (0) - ????????
Doll.S (0) - Schezo
Shadoweh (1) - Pesco, Schezo
Schezo (2) - Bardiche, Shadoweh
Dormio (1) - Hanged Hourai
Bardiche (1) - Zakeri
Not Voting: ????????
With 11 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. There are currently ~50 hours left in the day.

[Edible]

@Bardiche: Alas, I can't directly quote the PM.

In summary, the person who sent it basically said "stop being a jerk" in more words.  O_o;

Also, they threatened to off somebody should you not comply.

I have no idea.

I have no desire to lynch hourai, shadoweh, or bardiche today.  We can probably all agree that Doll is on the to-lynch list.  The primary lynch looks like it'll be pesco or schezo.  I'll need to do some research on schezo.

[Bardiche]

Zakeri reportery style on his case against me (and pretty much everyone else in that post) is unimpressive. I see no real opinions from his side, other than implied ones if you read between lines. Unfortunately, I don't subscribe to cases that just describe behaviour and let the readers fill in the blanks, because that way we can't blame you for a mislynch, right? Perhaps you can try again, this time underlining the case with your own opinions rather than make it a game of "derive your opinion, these are the actions!"

His one actual question is equally unimpressive. PX was my primary lynch target with only Edible's plea to lynch Pesco to avoid a Double NK ranking second to it. The other scummy behaviours were nowhere near telling enough to be immediately lynch-worthy.

Your charges on me are nonsensical enough that I find no need to further contest it. Rather, I'd like to submit a question of my own to you: at the end of D1, you stated that you thought Doll was the scummiest person around. What changed since then and now that you have not mentioned a word of Doll? The curious part here is that when you said Doll was the scummiest player to you in #195, Doll has not posted again.

Was Doll really the scummiest player, or just an easy target to leave your suspicions on while avoiding being on the PX wagon?

[Conqueror]

Eh? I'm still here.

Just posting here to tell everybody that I've been working on a post, and it should be ready soon. No, I'm not going to vote in this post without a reason. Expect the post within the next hour, as I'm almost done with it. Don't reply to this post please.

[Bardiche]

@Bardiche: Alas, I can't directly quote the PM.

In summary, the person who sent it basically said "stop being a jerk" in more words.  O_o;

Also, they threatened to off somebody should you not comply.

:V Oh lol. I don't think I'm that much of a jerk, but I guess we should prepare for someone getting offed.

[Conqueror]

I am going to submit this for now and add on later, as otherwise I'll just sit here writing forever.

Anyway, I tried to make some sense of the mess that happened in the morning, and am I right in drawing the conclusion that in the end, there's no conclusion? It looks like everybody's night actions match up, and since huh what is channeling NeoSerela is a sadist, I don't see any blatant claim contradictions. So, I don't understand any of the reasoning for the cases brought up in that mess.  Of course, that has no bearing on scummitude, so...yeah.

Shadoweh: I forgot what I was going to say about you because re-reading your posts is painful. I will get back to you later, so someone please remind me. I'll just ask you, what happened to your previous case on Pesco? What may or may not have happened Night One has no bearing on your previous case.

Schezo: Case on Shadoweh is bad, as mentioned before by absolutely everyone. Despite this, I don't think any scum would try to make a case like that (WIFOM alert) as it's just...ugh. I really don't know why he's pushing said case so hard though. Writing it off as derp for now, because I don't understand his points. If he could clarify later on that would be great.

Pesco: Ignoring his case on Shadoweh which seems to have cleared up by now, he hasn't really done much today except speculate the setup, and his vote on Hourai is because he could be lying. Really? Looking back now, Pesco hasn't really done much scumhunting; all he's done is get in a catfight with Edible (and later Shadoweh). I was willing to give him a sort of pass on Day 1, but his Day 2 has really pulled him down. I think somewhere on Day 1 Zak passed this off as Pesco being Pesco. Since when does having a scummy meta excuse scummy behavior in a particular game? Major frowny face at Pesco.

Hourai: Still don't see anything on him; still reads town. Claim is a little iffy, but huh what. :V

Doll S.: I've already given my opinions on Doll, and nothing he has done (or hasn't done, for that matter) has changed that. Today is actually a boon for town in that instead of wasting a day lynching him tomorrow (as Zak seems to eager to do), we can choose to lynch him today as secondary. Hourai's waffle buster should be of use here.

Dormio: Dormio is like Pesco but worse in the sense that he has no opinions of his own and seems to be parroting. His vote on Hourai is based on Hourai not voting and the speculation that it could be Hourai hiding his vote. He also includes a bit of roleclaim speculation for good measure! And last of all, he dares to forget my existence!

Zakeri: I will look at you later. You're not around enough to be memorable, so I don't really know what to think about you yet. I've answered several points in your post below though.

Bardiche: Bard is confusing and just as unreadable as ever. I'll look at him later along with Zakeri and Shadoweh.

Iced Fairy: Hi there. Thanks for subbing in. You haven't been playing long enough for me to make an opinion on you, but keep up the posting. I'll look at you along with the others I missed blah blah. Also, it's Zakeri, not Zakurei.

Edible: Despite the vaguely town feel I got from you before, I don't see much scumhunting going on from your end. You've tunneled almost exclusively on Pesco, with a few terse opinions on others. I'll start here:

I have no desire to lynch hourai, shadoweh, or bardiche today.  We can probably all agree that Doll is on the to-lynch list.  The primary lynch looks like it'll be pesco or schezo.  I'll need to do some research on schezo.

Justify why you are giving Hourai, Shadoweh, and Bardiche a pass, seeing as I haven't seen you give any substantial opinions on them. Or link me to the post where you did. This statement reeks of passivity, and I don't like it.

So in summation:
##Vote:Dormio - For having few original opinions, a lack of general content, and a horrible vote on Hourai. Reeks of scum bandwagoning.
I will be willing to switch to Pesco or Doll S. once town has decided on a game plan for today though.

No it didn't. Rereading PX's posts, Hourai was his second target. There's nothing wrong with questioning a second target, as oppose to tunneling your first.
Con's vote on PX seems like a bandwagon hop here.

Hourai may have been his second target as mentioned in his earlier post, but if you look at the actual post where he explains his vote, he provides almost no reasoning for the switch and instead brings out more on Pesco. I pegged that as scummy behavior at the time, and I still think it's scummy, despite his flip.  :wat:

Also of note, the only one who voted for K4u on top of being on the bandwagon. I already explained yesterday why I didn't like this. K4u's flip only enhances this.

The K4U vote was thrown out in the RVS and later changed when there were actual cases to be made. What does this have anything to do her flip?

Also, if anyone wants to get a free pass from me tomorrow, I promise to ignore anyone who just happens to leave their vote on Doll.S for the rest of the day.

Now that's just silly.  :V

A post-game discussion on what consists of a good D1 lynch and what doesn't is in order.

I will hold you to this.


Cut by Pesco speculating NK.
Of course we know how well that worked last time, right? >_>

[Schezo]

Fuck it. I'm roleclaiming now. I know I'm town so to get you all off me to a better lynch.

I am rule 6, the dictator of the lynch and townie riot leader. I was the one who started the town riot with my power last night because I figured getting Doll and another person lynched would be best for town when I thought I was going to save it until day 3. It freaking figures voting bullshit goes off to prevent optimal use of my power but we can make due. It goes without saying that no competent scum would give town their most powerful weapon twice so I think you will all see this as a town PR. I have one more ability that can further prove I'm rule 6 and that I have a power associated to lynching but I would prefer to save it because it wouldn't do much good right now.

Schezo's case on Shadoweh is bad, and he should feel guilty for considering it over Doll.S
I mean, really, this is her first game (it is, right?), what would you expect her reaction to anonymous voting would be besides "Oh neat, I wonder how this works!" It's not like the topic even comes up in that many games, either.

Now I feel like a real douche after I find out this is Shadowehs first game. I was really excited with my first Mafia game so I can see where the curiosity to do powers, Nk's and game effects comes into this. I'm sorry for trying to pull this on you but the other stuff (the role claiming craziness) still stands, though it's not enough to vote you right now.
##Unvote:
I want to just put it out there that I was tunneling on Shadoweh because at that time all of 4-5 people had posted and I nothing else to go off of so scum wouldn't want to butt in right when I was making a mess of myself.

Hourai: If I am to take Pesco's 278 at face value then the vote should obviously be on Hourai because since I'm town I have nothing to kill kitten for. But it's not.  Pesco hasn't done much scum hunting and like Zakeri said his post about Dormio, it was just more self assurance on what could be a BS vote.

Bardiche: I don't see how I ignored Shadoweh's commentary for asking for a vote count before going to bed.

Dormio: Good God. Your case On Hourai is that he didn't lay a vote on the table (although that does make me mad) the anon could easily been lurkscum or you in fact and you PMed an unvote since it's gone now. Your hit and run without anything on anyone when there is plenty enough on the table is just argh.

I'm going to place my opinion on people even though I'm going to vote Doll because he still hasn't shown up and is asking for it.
##Vote: Doll S.

Edit: cut a bunch and this is why I hate phone posting because it takes 2 goddam hours.

[Doll.S CUBE]

Urg, I was thinking about this game for a while, with thoughts of quitting or voting for myself but I decided to play through till the end (Even if it is today). As for my vote:

##Vote: Pesco

I really don't have a really good reason for this, but his role confirmation does not excuse him from being scum and his play so far is somewhat as bad as mine.

If you all want to lynch me, I am willing to accept this and if I am lynched, know this town people, even the dead can still be useful to you all. You just have to convince them of your rightful cause.

But if I'm not, I promise I'll try to get my game up tomorrow.

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

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Why does everything happen whenever I try to write up a post here?
I started writing this post an hourtwo hoursthree hours ago but things kept happening.
Also, bad habit of skimming over posts.


Zakeri: I don't really like how you're telling people to vote for Doll.S, yet you're keeping your vote on Bardiche.
If you're going to tell people to vote for someone, shouldn't you lead by example?

Pesco: Being able to assimilate people into your harem makes me think of a third party.
If this is correct, then he should be taken out before his harem grows too big for town to control.

Doll.S: ... Is that a random vote?

I still really don't like Hourai's roleclaim.
Firstly, if his target really did get switched, I don't think that his PM would have informed him something that would have been specific to his original target.
Secondly, he claims to have a oneshot protection ability in a game where everybody has an ability. If it really is oneshot, it would be pretty crappy if it didn't block everything. And why would you use such an ability on the first night?

Dormio: Good God. Your case On Hourai is that he didn't lay a vote on the table (although that does make me mad) the anon could easily been lurkscum or you in fact and you PMed an unvote since it's gone now.

What? My vote is still on Hourai.
And, although I didn't like him not placing a vote, my main reason for voting Hourai was because I think that he is lying in his roleclaim.

[Doll.S CUBE]

Doll.S: ... Is that a random vote?

No not really, I just can't explain my reason cause I'm not good at those type of things....

[Iced Fairy]

Alright.  Seems like we got a little more information.

Shadoweh, what clears Pesco in your mind?  The role shenanigans really didn't change anything (other then adding a chunk of derp to the proceedings).

Conqueror: I suggest for the next post you focus more on reading the players and giving a strong scum case on two or three.  It'll save you time, and possibly your life.  I prefer your active lurking to Dormio's vote and run admittedly, but strong claims are better.

Schezo : Much better scumhunting, I wish you'd ended on a stronger vote, but given the dual lynch I think killing one of the lurkers is good strategy.  Cut, but by more lurking.  Oh well....

And now to where my votes going.  I was hoping for scumhunting from you Pesco.  Instead you tried to guess a nightkill, on a night where things were really screwy.  And then voted based on 3 day one posts, one of which was a known town vote.

:wat:

Yeah.  Still comfortable with my vote here.

And cut:

Dormio : Yeah, you shouldn't skim.  Otherwise you miss things like Hourai's role not really being oneshot, and Pesco not multilinking.  And really all of the meat of the role madness you're using for your vote basis.  That's not exactly town behavior there.

[Shadoweh]

i am going to post something bigger after i have a chance to sit down and write. i lied this post is still huge. for now this is the post of mass and wild role activities speculation.
there is still a huge contradiction with the actions taken night one. i will list the claims. if someone who can type normally would like to make this readable i would appreciate the assistance.
rabbit face claims that he only targetted tasty man to be linked to himself.
red doll boy claims something targetting tasty man also went to rabbit face.
i claim something targetting rabbit face also went to night lurker.
tasty man claims something targetting night lurker went to tasty man instead of night lurker.
tasty man claims anything targetting tasty man will randomly target another player instead of targetting him.
night lurker confirmed he is linked to rabbit face.

look at these claims then explain to me how an action that targets tasty man can also target rabbit face? the word also is important because it should be instead. can anyone explain why night lurker is linked to tasty man? at least one of these claims has to be a lie. i have thought of one that clears red doll boy but any one of these claims could be wrong. from my perspective at least mine is true.

to takeover king i say that i started to believe rabbit face more today because during that role nightmare we both said oh my god you suck. i believe that he believed that i was lying and i believe that we were both surprised to each be telling the truth. i said in post number two five two that rabbit face should explain his day one now that the speculation is over. he has posted after this a few times ignoring the question so my suspicions are returning. more active lurking.

cute crafter of cutouts posted. i have a serious question for you. are you the one that tried to send night lurker a message to play nice or else someone will die? either way there is no harm in trying to explain your vote on rabbit face so you should spend some time to do that while you are still alive.

[Hanged Hourai]

Ok, school's over and the weekend has began. Time for a post.

Let me explain my vote on Dormio.
First, it was to put my vote on the table.
Second, even though it's on me, I still don't like how he gives his reason for it. It basically sums up to "I don't believe it." Not strong to me.
And also, the speed which he jumps on it is suspect. Right as it begins, he gets on (third on wagon) with "I don't believe it."

Dormio-

Secondly, he claims to have a oneshot protection ability in a game where everybody has an ability. If it really is oneshot, it would be pretty crappy if it didn't block everything. And why would you use such an ability on the first night?

Read back. I'm a rechargeable doc.
Also, you don't believe my role claim. Do you believe my newfound mastery of waffles?

Pesco-
I'm a little confused at your NK analysis. If you think Schezo is more likely to be scum than me, then why isn't your vote on him?

Schezo-

Hourai: If I am to take Pesco's 278 at face value then the vote should obviously be on Hourai because since I'm town I have nothing to kill kitten for. But it's not.  Pesco hasn't done much scum hunting and like Zakeri said his post about Dormio, it was just more self assurance on what could be a BS vote.

Uh, I'm having trouble understanding this. The ideas kinda blend together. Re-explain pl0x?

Edible-
I'm just curious. In #266, you said that Shadoweh and I should be avoided as lynches. You gave some reasoning on me before in #250. But I'm curious as to where hers came from, even though I support the idea. Why is she cleared by you for today?

Doll-
You can't just expect everyone to have mindhax powers to read your mind and know your explanations.
No hunting equates to not helping town.

If the time comes, I will waffle-vote you to be the second lynch.


New Post:

I want to try and help clear things up.

Edible and Pescoco, did you receive any notification of any inherently bad effects directed specifically for you?

[Iced Fairy]

 Shadoweh there is no contradiction with what everyone presented.  Hourai targeted EDIBLE.  Based on the info we have things went like this:

Day 1 : Pesco Links Edible

Night 1 :
Someone, somehow, switches Edible and Bard.  Pesco is now linked to Bard and everything at night happens to the opposite guy.
Bards threat gets sent to Edible, Hourai's doc gets sent to Bard.  Pesco is linked to Bard and is thus protected.
You target Pesco.  Pesco is protected.

Now someone might still be lying, but there's no contradiction here.

[Hanged Hourai]

Here we go, I was going off memory when I said the protect successfully went up on Edible.
Upon a reread, I now see that I was only informed the my protect did go up on someone, along with one on Pesco.

I assumed off of memory that it was referring to Edible since I targeted him.

So now the actions make a lot more sense.

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

Otherwise you miss things like Hourai's role not really being oneshot, and Pesco not multilinking.

Crap. I think I need to take a break and sleep for a day. Uni shit is getting to me. 1 hour travel times doesn't help either.
Okay, I'm going to reread this when I have the time. (Which will hopefully be after I eat something)

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[Shadoweh]

that is a bad reason red doll boy and you should feel bad for not checking your message. now there is only the question of why tasty man would receive a message meant for night lurker. i am not sure if that mystery relates to the rest of the claims so i am willing to leave it unknown.

if we are going to speculate on the night kill then i believe rabbit face would kill his adorable blue feline because rabbit face targets experienced players before considering roles. he should come up with more hunting of the red colored team that cannot be thrown back in his face as his own motive.

to tasty man and night lurker i pose a question. now that we are certain that rabbit face and night lurker are linked how do we feel about a lynch on either night lurker or rabbit face? the person claiming to be a doctor has claimed he will not be able to protect anyone tonight.

also i checked my schedule and i will not be here tomorrow from three hours before until an hour after our self appointed deadline.

[WHMZakeri]

I see no real opinions from his side, other than implied ones if you read between lines.

Between what lines? You might not be able to divine the meaning behind phrases like "Hourai and Schezo are getting a slight pass from me" or "Bardiche's suspicious behavior really edges him out in front." But it makes a lot of sense with the context that I'm putting voting priority on people who I think are mafia. Tell me which words you specifically want me to use, and I'll go ahead and rewrite my posts with those words if you feel it's necessary.

Voted PX for the wagon hop on Pesco.
Reasoning for the vote never evolves as more info is added.

You jumped onto a bandwagon, and rode it out to it's lynch. You never bothered adding reasoning or justification for keeping your vote then other than the post you voted him for. Even where you bring up the case against him, all you simply do is requote that same post.

Provides light opinions on Dormio, Jabs at Doll.S (doesn't switch votes.)
"Between Pesco and Edible, I choose PX."

Again, you never really consider anyone else up to vote. You seemed content to leave your vote hanging comfortably on PX while telling Dormio and Doll.S how bad they are. It's the kind of lazy scumhunting that's indistinguishable from scum prettying to put effort into this.

My favorite part is when instead of providing Wagon analysis, or personal opinions during the nightphase like a person who believes they can be killed during the night, and wishes to help town would do, he just attempts to wave a baton and conduct the midnight symphony orchestra.

The main point here is as I pointed out in the middle of the sentence. Your midnight post is suspicious because instead of doing what a person that has fear of being Nightkilled (i.e. a townie) would do, and posting something that would help the town (i.e. wagon analysis) you instead decide to create mass WiFoM and confusion amongst that night actions, of which a few who inherently know more about the set up than a regular townie (i.e. Mafia) could use to their advantage.

Also, I may not like Schezo, but I also dislike your case on Schezo. It wreaks too much of "Day one reasoning" in the fact that the validity of it is based entirely on flips we don't even have. You even go so far as to exclude his day one activity, such as being on a town wagon or anything that might deal with him reacting to people who we know are town.

The other scummy behaviours were nowhere near telling enough to be immediately lynch-worthy.

And PX's was that much better?

at the end of D1, you stated that you thought Doll was the scummiest person around. What changed since then and now that you have not mentioned a word of Doll?

You became scummier.
Also, please define "not mentioning a word". I'm really interested in how the meaning of that phrase ties into me literally asking other people to vote him on a multi-lynch day.

[Schezo]

Schezo-Uh, I'm having trouble understanding this. The ideas kinda blend together. Re-explain pl0x?

orz

Blame my phone posting.  I write, rewrite, wright and rewrite these things so when I do that on my phone, incoherency raises it's ugly little head.

I meant to separate the ideas, I have no reason to kill Kitten because I'm town duo vote leader, and his logic is an ultimatum on screwy mindhax and could be trying to convince everyone to choose between two townies, with a weak attempt of assuring himself and everyone that his lead against a townie won't be as easily pinned back onto him.

Doll S.: Yeah come up with something by tomorrow...  Gracious.

Bard: Oops, cut.  Anyway Zakeri just covered all the misreps and stuff you just pulled that I was going to point out.  It's not as hard as you make it out to be to make out what his convictions are and what he thinks of everyone else, so I'll make an opinion on you when you answer Zak.

[WHMZakeri]

Also, catching up:

Conqueror, please when you make a post like that, just delete the comments on everyone who you end up typing "I'll look over later." It makes your post easier, and more delightful to read.

Also, it's Zakeri, not Zakurei.

Hakurei :3
I've also been called Zakumo in the past~

I don't really like how you're telling people to vote for Doll.S, yet you're keeping your vote on Bardiche.
If you're going to tell people to vote for someone, shouldn't you lead by example?

I have two people I want lynched (Well, three, but I'll get to Conqueror tomorrow if it's still relevant), and we get two lynches today. I'll change my vote as needed to make sure Bard and Doll are the top two.
...Which reminds me, I still need to write my speech. *sigh*

I really don't have a really good reason for this,

No not really, I just can't explain my reason cause I'm not good at those type of things.

Which is it?

[Doll.S CUBE]

Wow, what a mistake....well it's the second one if you want to know.