MotK Psycho Plot Mafia ~ Game Over, Town Win

[Serela]

Flavor coming. Within a few hours.

And no, I can't reveal the flip first. That would ruin everything.

Oh, I can reveal Kilga's, though.

Kilgajesus the Super Neighbor was kneecapped to death during Day 2. He was in possession of a Lie Detector at the time of death.

Alice Boofybofh was in possession of a Possessed Item Identifier at the time of death, as well.

[Serela]

GODrake had fallen asleep out of a sudden ontake of laziness, for... most of the day. This hadn't gone unnoticed, and he was being herded to the Lynching Door by the mob of survivors.

"Oh come on, I'm here now, so we can still lynch Donut instead, riiiight?", he whimpered. But no, it was too late; there might not even be time to pull off a Donut lynch anymore!

"...fuck. God dammit. I can't believe I succumbed to laziness even during this.", Drake said. But... wait, something was a bit off. "It's wearing off; shiiit... I guess I deserve this, anyway.", he moaned.

And then, he seemed to start... melting. But only a little bit; then his skin formed back into place, but... it wasn't Drake. Everyone gasped.

NeoSerela pouted. "I really messed this up, didn't I? Well, I prepared for it, at least." As everyone tried to figure out what the hell just happened, No-Longer-Drake-Serela pulled out a remote control, and pressed a button; there was a strange noise coming from behind the Lynching Door, now. "Emergency escape mode, go!" Serela then jumped behind the lynching door, and the strange sound travelled upwards at a fast speed, before disappearing.

They saw a parachute outside the window that had been broken earlier, as who was presumably Serela fell safely outside.

Then the tied, gagged, and blindfolded body of the real Drake rolled down the stairs, kicking and giving muffled yells, as the intercom voice came on.

"Umm. I wonder if that's a good thing, or a bad thing? So, I guess Night 2 starts now?"
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ImpersonatorSerela the Psycho Villain escaped, but failed to accomplish their goal.

The real Drake has returned, and is not lynched.

[Serela]

End of Day 2 Votecount

Kuruminut (1): GODrake
Violentia (1): Slabes
TranceTheHime (1): Violentia
GODrake??? (5): Kuruminut, Easy Modo, Omega Wrathie, TranceTheHime, Hoboverlord

[Serela]

When everyone woke up, they all tried to figure out who was missing. It didn't take long; after a few seconds, they all instantly noticed what was missing.

As they entered his room, they saw Wrathie in his bed, haven been drowned in his sleep with a bowl of good gravy.

And then the bomb Wrathie had hidden under his mattress exploded.
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Omega Wrathie the Maniacal Princess was killed during the night. He was in possession of a Mystery Bomb and a Magical Tree Stump at the time of his lynch.

Results of the Mystery Bomb are being processed. Day 3 starts now. You have 72 hours.

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

[Ouja]

I can't say I expected ANY of that to happen.

I was Roleblocked.  <insert edible pastry flavor pun here>

If there is more than one scum left alive this is a bastard mod.  (Oh wait.)

Trance is probably definitely not scum after deliberately pushing the unfavored lynch and pissing half the game off. 
Which brings us down to {Valentia, Mode, Slaves, off-chance of Drake}.

Question for Drake.  When did you lose access to your account?

Rereading before placing vote.

[Kiva-la]

I want three things before I launch into today:

- The results of that Mystery Bomb, or at least whatever we're going to get in public.

- A claim clarification from Donut. Is your role exactly as you described it? You target someone, they are completely untargetable, you see who targeted them and how many times, you die if you get eaten too much? And nothing else?

- A roleclaim AND substantial post from Drake. I want to know why the hell Day 2 ended the way it did, and something more than "Valentia is obvbad *vote*" which is the only thing you did yesterday. Doing that again will land my vote on you every day until you die.

[Sasword]

That was mind-numbingly frustrating. Getting pod person'd is infinitely more frustrating than getting lynched, imo. At least, that's how I felt.

However, the time that I spent being tied up on the sidelines did do me some good, because I managed to figure out a few things. Like for example, I now know for a fact who vigged Kilga yesterday. TranceTheHime, come on down!

Or... Scum got their grubby hands on a baseball bat D2 and decided to use it on the most prominent Townie at the time! Yes yes, i'm sure some of you are wondering why I know all this. Since we've pretty much won if we lynch right today (assuming a 3-man scumteam, which i'd be willing to put money on given the number of players), I see no sense in holding back my roleclaim any longer.

I am a powerswitcher. (Or at least I was, until my rolepower was stolen and replaced with something else as part of my N2 action results. But anyway.) My role power allowed me to switch the special items of any two players (including myself, which is important!). Also to my dismay, I found out N1 that it was compulsory, so after much deliberation I decided on Trance and Val as my two targets.

Why those two? Long story short, I was attempting to minimize the potential disruption faced that such an ability could inflict on town. I decided the best case scenario was to either switch town/town or scum/scum, with the absolute worst possible situation being if a 1-shot vig were to be passed from town to scum. The reason I selected Val and Trance in the end was, I figured that it would be less swingy if I switched two nubbish players over two more experienced players. Sana was suspicious and so was Slabes, and I was on the fence about Mode.


So anyway, N1, I decide to switch TranceTheHime and Violentia. On D2: obvtown Kilga gets kneecapped! So it was definitely scum who did so. I had already been thinking of the possibility of scum getting their hands on a vig, so trying to determine who did it was one of my priorities (Not like I had much else to do thanks to a certain mod, *ahem*. >_>)

I realized the following: People's rolepowers/starting items are very likely related to their persona. I had thought this might be the case when Pesco got lynched and his role was Mindhax, with a Hijacker power item. Additional support came in the form of Kilga's item (Lie detector ---> lol Kilga is good mafier player)

Over N2, I then had a flash of insight. 'Violentia'.... 'Kneecapped'... I bet Val had the 1shot Vig, which would have put it in Trance's hands on D2! Of course, this was still speculation, but luckily I had just the way to prove it. After confirming with mod that 1shot items do not disappear upon use, I switched myself and Trance's items. And lo and behold!


And since this bat recharges whenever it changes hands, I don't see any reason why I should delay this any further. Sorry Trance-kun, I'm still a bit miffed about missing out on D2, but I know just the way to vent my rage!

[Serela]

All results of the Mystery Bomb have been sent.

[Kiva-la]

...Okay, that's, uh, acceptable.

Guess I'm waiting on Donut at this point, who was the first one to raise the idea of Trance killing Kilga, if I remember right. Maybe me feel a bit better about him.

[Kiva-la]

EBWOP: "Maybe" should be "Makes".

You all dyslexic fuck I'm.

[Sasword]

asdfadfafg goddammit, what the hell. I guess i'm not vigging anything right now, because my item changed into something that isn't a bat. >_> I will request to the mod that further game-related PMs are sent to this account and not my main, because going back and forth is confusing and I missed the last one that informed me 37 minutes after I got the bat and the thread was unlocked that it was suddenly Not-A-Bat.

##Vote: Trance

Trance is 100% scum, and I would be willing to bet every dollar I earn from now until my dying days on it.

Question for Drake.  When did you lose access to your account?

I was informed that I was not allowed to post on my account at all for the entirety of D2. I got the PM at the start of the day.



Re: Purvis - Hey look, I can give you two of the three things! And I might even be able to help you on the remaining one, but I'd rather withold that information until Donut speaks up again.

- The results of that Mystery Bomb, or at least whatever we're going to get in public.

The mystery bomb changed the baseball bat I just got into another item. I don't know if it had more effects than that on other people.

- A roleclaim AND substantial post from Drake. I want to know why the hell Day 2 ended the way it did, and something more than "Valentia is obvbad *vote*" which is the only thing you did yesterday. Doing that again will land my vote on you every day until you die.

See last post. And I don't know if you happened to miss the D2 ending post, but everything that happened (and didn't happen) with me yesterday was all thanks to the NeoSerela dopperganger running around. If a modpost isn't enough proof for you, just look at the difference in posting style between D1 and what few D2 posts there were.

[Ouja]

- A claim clarification from Donut. Is your role exactly as you described it? You target someone, they are completely untargetable, you see who targeted them and how many times, you die if you get eaten too much? And nothing else?

Targets are not completely untargetable.  I'm told that NKs will fail, at least.  I'm assuming there are other actions that won't work as well.  However, all actions taken on my target will result in a nibble.
I do not see who targets anyone.  I was told that someone targeted me thrice because, iunno, the mod thought it would be cool to do so.  I am, however, told how many total times I'm nibbled.
The notion that I die at all is implied.  Not being able to quote the mod isn't helping but it's possible that I wasn't Roleblocked but simply ran out of charges.  On the other hand, dying after getting eaten too much nicely segues into my starting item, the post-death vote.

This is what I get for skimming a role madness Role PM.

However, the time that I spent being tied up on the sidelines did do me some good, because I managed to figure out a few things. Like for example, I now know for a fact who vigged Kilga yesterday. TranceTheHime, come on down!

(...)

Over N2, I then had a flash of insight. 'Violentia'.... 'Kneecapped'... I bet Val had the 1shot Vig, which would have put it in Trance's hands on D2! Of course, this was still speculation, but luckily I had just the way to prove it. After confirming with mod that 1shot items do not disappear upon use, I switched myself and Trance's items. And lo and behold!

Well okay never mind what I was just saying about Trance.  I'm not going to argue with that.

##Vote: Trance

Reading the rest of the post, I agree that roles and possibly alignments (Pesco ) are VERY tied to our personas.  Items, well, I didn't think of that but it makes sense.  That's why I highly recommended massclaim yesterday.

I think Mystery Bomb randomized all items.  No, I don't have the bat.

[Kick Hopper]

##Vote: Kuruminut

I can see your confused faces on this, but with some help from the mods, I can sort out this mess.

My initial role was stolen Night 1, and I was basically immune to killing powers. However, that disappeared Day 2 and I was left with no role. HOWEVER, when I woke up on Day 3, lo and behold I now have an item swapping role. This brings me to the conclusion that THERE MAY BE MORE THAN ONE ITEM SWAPPING ROLE.

Now, how does this help me? Well, under that revelation, I asked the mod what would happened if two people used the same power to swap the item of a guy twice. The mods responded with that it was based on the order of who sent their actions first. So, the scum who had the bat could have had the item swapping power. Seeing a good opportunity to frame me, THE PERSON CONTAINING THE BAT COULD HAVE SWAPPED THE ITEM TO ME, AND THEN IT GOT SWAPPED TO GODrake.

Now, how did I come to the conclusion of voting for Kuruminut? Well, he stated to have the vig vote that was used on Day 2 which nobody noticed. However, I had the item Day 1, and it disappeared on Night 1. Going with what Drake said in his previous post, VIOLENTIA SHOULD HAVE HAD THE VIG VOTE ON DAY 2. THUS, KURUMINUT COULD NOT HAVE HAD IT UNLESS ONE OF TWO THINGS HAPPENED: HE SWAPPED ITEMS WITH VIOLENTIA NIGHT 1, OR HE AND VIOLENTIA ARE WORKING TOGETHER.

Looking at the Kilga death, it was when the wagon on me was starting to pick up. They clearly could have saw what an opportunity this was to push the focus on me after the death, as the most obvious person who killed Kilga would have definitely been me. So, KURUMINUT AND VIOLENTIA MUST BE THE REMAINING SCUM!

[Kick Hopper]

EBWOP: By No Role for Day 2, I mean that I had a role with no powers other than getting me a new role after Night 2.

[Ouja]

Looking at the Kilga death, it was when the wagon on me was starting to pick up. They clearly could have saw what an opportunity this was to push the focus on me after the death, as the most obvious person who killed Kilga would have definitely been me. So, KURUMINUT AND VIOLENTIA MUST BE THE REMAINING SCUM!

I don't think it would be that obvious to anyone that you killed ga.   I came to the most likely conclusion based on limited information, and I'll bet every dollar of my OWN money that nobody else would have read that much into the situation.

That seems to be the major focus of your case on me, which seems to be based on assuming the worst.  I would counter your speculation with my own but Drake seems to know more about this than I do. 

Re: Purvis - Hey look, I can give you two of the three things! And I might even be able to help you on the remaining one, but I'd rather withold that information until Donut speaks up again.

By the way, I'm still curious as to that fake Umineko post restriction from yesterday.

[Sasword]

Well, in retrospect I don't see much reason to withold this information, especially with everyone's items changing hands. I had the roleblocker item, and N1 I disabled Slabes while N2 I disabled Donut. In retrospect I probably should have roleblocked Trance instead which could have stopped the NK, but I chose Donut because I got a pretty strong scumread off of him. Hell, I had even suspected he had been involved in tying me up as well!

The combination of being first on my wagon at ED2 and his constant waffling back and forth put him at the top of my scum list (after Trance, of course).  A lot has been said about Donut already, but here's something that stood out to me like a glaring sun.

I'm Town.  If you can't see that after I threw away the ability for scum to let SUPER STEALTH LYLO go by - AND allowed my hypopartner to throw away my SUPER STEALTH LYLO MAKER one-shot vig - please learn to play Mafia.

But it wasn't a throwaway: Vigs and extra votes are almost never allowed in LyLo circumstances. And were you really trying to say that obvtown Kilga who is obviously a high inquisitor great Mafia player is a 'throwaway vote'? Also, very interesting that you attribute 'your hypopartner' as the one that would've had the vig and not yourself. I can't find anything in the backposts where someone suggested that idea... so where'd that come from anyway? Hmm?


FakeeditNinja'd by Trance: ......wow. Y'know what? I'd be willing to bet my living on Donut being scum too, especially after this latest post by Trance.

##Vote: Kuruminut

I can see your confused faces on this, but with some help from the mods, I can sort out this mess.

My initial role was stolen Night 1, and I was basically immune to killing powers. However, that disappeared Day 2 and I was left with no role. HOWEVER, when I woke up on Day 3, lo and behold I now have an item swapping role. This brings me to the conclusion that THERE MAY BE MORE THAN ONE ITEM SWAPPING ROLE.

Now, how does this help me? Well, under that revelation, I asked the mod what would happened if two people used the same power to swap the item of a guy twice. The mods responded with that it was based on the order of who sent their actions first. So, the scum who had the bat could have had the item swapping power. Seeing a good opportunity to frame me, THE PERSON CONTAINING THE BAT COULD HAVE SWAPPED THE ITEM TO ME, AND THEN IT GOT SWAPPED TO GODrake.

So if what you say is true, you have my role now. But nowhere does that imply that there is more than one item swapping role. And you're basically trying to tell us... that scum would somehow know that I was planning on switching our items... and that scum would ALSO somehow find it a good idea to pass a vig item to Town? :/

Now, how did I come to the conclusion of voting for Kuruminut? Well, he stated to have the vig vote that was used on Day 2 which nobody noticed. However, I had the item Day 1, and it disappeared on Night 1. Going with what Drake said in his previous post, VIOLENTIA SHOULD HAVE HAD THE VIG VOTE ON DAY 2. THUS, KURUMINUT COULD NOT HAVE HAD IT UNLESS ONE OF TWO THINGS HAPPENED: HE SWAPPED ITEMS WITH VIOLENTIA NIGHT 1, OR HE AND VIOLENTIA ARE WORKING TOGETHER.

Looking at the Kilga death, it was when the wagon on me was starting to pick up. They clearly could have saw what an opportunity this was to push the focus on me after the death, as the most obvious person who killed Kilga would have definitely been me. So, KURUMINUT AND VIOLENTIA MUST BE THE REMAINING SCUM!

Or the MUCH more likely and less contrived explanation: You're a dirty liar and you and Donut are the remaining scum. Note that Donut never stated that he had the vig vote: it was his 'hypopartner'. I love that both you and Donut accepted what I had to say without a peep of skepticism, and suddenly go balls-out against each other. If that isn't pounding nails in the coffin, I don't know what does.

Note nowhere in here that Trance suspects me, when i'm the one claiming the powerswitcher role. If he really was a townie paranoid about being framed, dont'cha think he'd at least bat an eye my way? Both Trance and Donut know for a fact that i'm Town because they are the two remaining scum.

[Kick Hopper]

Simple, as I have the Lie Detector item after the bomb exploded. I can check to see if what you're saying is the truth according to the mods, but provided I live to night to use it.

[Sasword]

EBWOP: Back in 246, between the second and third line (Before the 'Or..'), there should have been this quote.

Also, Kilga just died. Somebody is either seeking attention, avoiding it, or just wanted a random kill in the middle of the day.

Simple, as I have the Lie Detector item after the bomb exploded. I can check to see if what you're saying is the truth according to the mods, but provided I live to night to use it.

Not at all simple. That doesn't help at all for the current situation at hand, or explain why you accepted my words without question. You already seem thoroughly convinced at the moment that i'm telling the truth, so what do you need that for?

[DiEnd]

Man night and day are so short~

Few things happened at night so lemme get things straight first my starting role was to bust some caps with my trusty BASEBALLBAT

But someone nabbed my baseball bat while i was sleeping, darn.

then i somehow stole a role for some unkown reason, kinda bugs me it does but the role i have obtained is ##copafeel, and i used it on our now deaceased wrathie. It tells what rolepower that person contains but we already found out anyway. what a waste  :ohdear:

The new item i have after all this chaos is the item identifier, which allows me to identify what someones power item does during the daylight hours, nifty eh?

[Ouja]

But it wasn't a throwaway: Vigs and extra votes are almost never allowed in LyLo circumstances.

There was no such tag on either of the voting abilities I have received.

And were you really trying to say that obvtown Kilga who is obviously a high inquisitor great Mafia player is a 'throwaway vote'? Also, very interesting that you attribute 'your hypopartner' as the one that would've had the vig and not yourself. I can't find anything in the backposts where someone suggested that idea... so where'd that come from anyway? Hmm?

I don't understand the first question.  I anonyvoted Sana.
As for the hypopartner, if I had the vote, I couldn't also have the Vig.  Or at least that's the idea; Wrathie's two-item flip kind of kiboshes that.

Or the MUCH more likely and less contrived explanation: You're a dirty liar and you and Donut are the remaining scum. Note that Donut never stated that he had the vig vote: it was his 'hypopartner'. I love that both you and Donut accepted what I had to say without a peep of skepticism, and suddenly go balls-out against each other. If that isn't pounding nails in the coffin, I don't know what does.

I wasn't that ballsouty about it, at least not until now.  You presented an intricate and (as far as I know) believable claim and I immediately voted Trance because of it.  The complexity of Trance's claim also initially slowed me, though his theory is not likely given that it requires me to have needlessly switched items with hypopartner Valentia AND his claim doesn't really have anything shockingly Townish about it on second glance (bulletproof seems overpowered for town, and he still hasn't mentioned anything about his role or broken post restriction).

Note nowhere in here that Trance suspects me, when i'm the one claiming the powerswitcher role. If he really was a townie paranoid about being framed, dont'cha think he'd at least bat an eye my way?

Probably.
But then wouldn't it be easier for Tran-scumberian Orchestra to frame the easiest other person around?  (me)

Both Trance and Donut know for a fact that i'm Town because they are the two remaining scum.

Aside from the claim, I have to say I'm fairly skeptical of the idea of scum voluntarily replacing themselves with what appears to be a malignant third party, even temporarily.

Thanks for bringing that Trance quote up, btw.  It pretty nicely shows that he tried all of the illogical explanations for the Kilga hit.

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For about half an hour I thought I was going to be able to breathe today. :V

[Kiva-la]

What is this I don't even.

I am prepared to vote for Trance at this point, but with the secret vote running around unaccounted for at this point I'm going to hold off. Call me overly cautious.

Drake, if I may fish for a moment, were both the powerswitcher and the roleblocker powers items, or is one inherent to you? You seem to have been implying the former.

In regards to items being related to the people that started the game with them, I am curious why Drake would start with two items were this the case.

Since I no longer have it, I will say my previous item was a Rolecop device. I initially thought it useless (and was even tempted yesterday to try to taunt scum into taking it just so they'd waste their time on it) because I copped Sana and got "Planeteer" with no helpful description, but last night I copped Donut and actually got useful information. The info I got matches up with what he described - everyone who targets the person he targets nibbles him instead, this stops some actions, he knows how many times he was bitten but not by whom. The eventual death trigger is curiously absent, however. (Also he got the actual name of his role wrong but that's neither here nor there. >_>) Even so, I am not particularly inclined to believe he is scum; this is not a particularly useful role for scum, and I'd think it would have been on the NK last night if it WERE scum, but Donut very clearly did not kill anyone last night given the roleblock.

Drake I incline toward town for what has gone down today. Town roleblocker/role switcher combo is extremely odd, but this game is fucked up enough as it is and the roleblocker part at least is not unheard of in the hands of town.

Valentia I believe to be town because no one died D1 and scum not using a potentially refillable, potentially losable anon dayvig is a beyond-retarded move for them to make.

So I think I will be returning to Slaves once Trance is dealt with, as he has made me unhappier than Mode has throughout the game. One can simply read over my posts from Day 2 if they want to see reasons why I do not think him town. I actually would not mind seeing item claims from both of them, though. No one that has posted yet today has claimed the vote OR the bat and they're the only two left. (I suppose it's possible one or both vanished into the aether of corpses, given the lie detector came back from the dead, but.)

[Ouja]

(Also he got the actual name of his role wrong but that's neither here nor there. >_>)

What.
*checks*
:fail:

Great point about Valentia though.

[Sasword]

What is this I don't even.

I am prepared to vote for Trance at this point, but with the secret vote running around unaccounted for at this point I'm going to hold off. Call me overly cautious.

Drake, if I may fish for a moment, were both the powerswitcher and the roleblocker powers items, or is one inherent to you? You seem to have been implying the former.

The former was inherent and the latter was in the form of a tool. I lost my inherent power last night as the result of an ability used on me, on resolution of my powerswitcher ability. I was informed that in its place I was now a  role stealer, which apparently steals any rolepower it comes across. Whatever that means. This was resolved seperately from the Mystery Bomb, which came later and stripped the bat I got from Trance away from me and replaced it with another item.

In regards to items being related to the people that started the game with them, I am curious why Drake would start with two items were this the case.

Since I no longer have it, I will say my previous item was a Rolecop device. I initially thought it useless (and was even tempted yesterday to try to taunt scum into taking it just so they'd waste their time on it) because I copped Sana and got "Planeteer" with no helpful description, but last night I copped Donut and actually got useful information. The info I got matches up with what he described - everyone who targets the person he targets nibbles him instead, this stops some actions, he knows how many times he was bitten but not by whom. The eventual death trigger is curiously absent, however. (Also he got the actual name of his role wrong but that's neither here nor there. >_>) Even so, I am not particularly inclined to believe he is scum; this is not a particularly useful role for scum, and I'd think it would have been on the NK last night if it WERE scum, but Donut very clearly did not kill anyone last night given the roleblock.

I also thought that the ability would be weird for a townie... and after hashing out the possibilities, I'm finding it harder to believe that scum would have such an ability, actually.

Valentia I believe to be town because no one died D1 and scum not using a potentially refillable, potentially losable anon dayvig is a beyond-retarded move for them to make.

Waitaminute.... WAITAMINUTE.

Although I didn't get to have the bat long enough to use it, I did get a description of its abilities. You could choose to vig either during the day OR night. And two people were found dead N1. Valentia COULD have used it after all!

Alright, I need to give this a thorough readover, but maybe I was wrong about you Donut. I don't know why I didn't think about Valentia having used the vig on N1 until now. Giving scum a free vig item, even from the RNG, seems so stupid broken as to be immediately rerolled, but it's within the realm of possibility with this kind of crazy setup.


Also, just to make sure I don't miss the chance before the game is over: om nom nom I love lava cakes

[Kick Hopper]

Dammit, I forgot a few things in my defense post, but that's been torn apart. My Night 1 action was used to use my role power #copafeel on Pescohax to find out the exact power he had, and it turns out, he can swap items! Then I asked the mods whether or not you can swap roles with dead people, and it also turned out you can. So we may have another person running around with an item swapping power of Mindhax.

[Kiva-la]

...There's a Purveyor of Fine Leather Jackets running around? That's hilarious.

(If my identity wasn't already obvious, that shuold blow my cover completely, but really, seeing another role stealer ability is just too amusing.)

Anyway. If Valentia really killed N1 I'd be slightly more inclined to think her town - killing Eve would have been a very stupid scum move, given how they played D1.

[Sasword]

I bet you that if Mindhax is indeed a swappy ability, then it probably is the role-counterpart to my item-switcher. Ugh, all this role vs item nonsense is confusing, and there's a lot of ambiguity in people's posts. We need to get this straightened out.

Violentia: What was your item and what was your role? You refer to the baseball bat as a role, but it is clearly an item. Please clarify this.

Trance: you too.

and it turns out, he can swap items! Then I asked the mods whether or not you can swap roles with dead people, and it also turned out you can. So we may have another person running around with an item swapping power of Mindhax.

Ninja'd:

Anyway. If Valentia really killed N1 I'd be slightly more inclined to think her town - killing Eve would have been a very stupid scum move, given how they played D1.

Good point, didn't even think about the strategy about it so much as Val could have shot twice after all N1. I need to give things a more thorough lookover tomorrow and revisit this with a fresh mind, as I'm beyond sleepy right now.

[Kiva-la]

So a bit of idle speculation while we wait for MODESLAVES 4: THE MAFIAPOSTING.

Given the nature of how Drake's lynch resolved, I'm somewhat inclined to think the responsible party knew what was going to happen. At the very least, they knew Drake would be incapable of defending himself from a wagon coming his way. I myself came out of Day 1 with a town read on Drake, and with the way no one came into Day 2 barrelling down on him with a case, I'm willing to bet I wasn't the only one. Between the nature of his affliction and the town feeling I had on him at the beginning of Day 2, I believe it was very likely scum in origin.

Now, assuming scum put Drake in his pod, they would know beforehand that he'd be a neatly wasted lynch, so I went back and looked at the train on him, which is doubly suspect with the way the day went from fighting back and forth between all the competing trains culminating into the dash to the mod-imposed lurker. I count Donut, Wrathie and myself as legitimate reasons to vote for him. Mode's vote would be suspect under normal circumstances but the "gotta lynch someone" nature of our system (which she cited) makes it forgiveable. Who was the other vote? Trance, with an unexplained vote that completely skipped over his previous top two suspects for no apparent reason and ended up really getting the Drake wagon in gear (he only had one vote at the time). The modkill reasoning that appears later is bleh - as far as I was concerned at that point I was welcoming the modkill, because it meant a free second lynch of someone I wanted dead - and then "Drake" reappeared anyway, rendering even that lone point moot. This vote sticks out like a sore thumb in terms of potential for opportunistic scum to get a lynch from their silencer power.

Not that Trance really needed more against him for me to want to vote him off, but realizing this really seals the deal.

[DiEnd]

Violentia: What was your item and what was your role? You refer to the baseball bat as a role, but it is clearly an item. Please clarify this.

oh! sorry about that.

My first role was to be a Role stealer, but the role itself was automatic and i had no control of it whatsoever. The role activated on N1 Where i stole the role as a drag commando.

[DiEnd]

oh, to clear up me killing N1, the baseball bat was stolen from me before i could use the night kill :ohdear: so i couldnt have night killed anyone on N1

[Ouja]

This pretty much cements that everyone lives in a different time zone from me or something.

I was initially bothered by Trance's sudden clarification of something he should have made mention of already but after considering it it's not implausible that his legitimate thought process worked the way it did.  It doesn't make his everyone's-out-to-get-me theory of events much more sound though.

@Purvis:  As much as I don't like what Trance is doing, I don't think that that line of logic is sound.  While I agree that scum had to know what was going on with turning Drake into Gaggles, lynching notDrake wasn't burning a mislynch at all - the only thing it did was waste a day.  It would have been superior for scum to lynch me yesterday.  That goes back to why I said Trance wasn't scum before Drake came in.

Also, your TRUE IDENTITY cannot be more obvious than mine.