Author Topic: Doctor Wars Mafia - Game Over (Read 71472 times)

NekoNekoRex · « **Reply #210 on:** May 08, 2014, 10:44:22 PM »

Why the hell didn't Zak hammer Raikaria?

NekoNekoRex · « **Reply #211 on:** May 08, 2014, 10:45:45 PM »

Why the hell am I an idiot that can't read?

ActionDan · « **Reply #212 on:** May 08, 2014, 11:17:39 PM »

I just got the response

I'm a vig. SB isn't dead

##vote

ActionDan · « **Reply #213 on:** May 08, 2014, 11:18:44 PM »

##vote sb

I actually thought zak would've been the partner

ActionDan · « **Reply #214 on:** May 08, 2014, 11:21:44 PM »

Obviously if I had got the notification that my action went through I would have lead out with the vote immediately

ActionDan · « **Reply #215 on:** May 08, 2014, 11:28:59 PM »

Lmao I got sent two messages, the 2nd one looks like it should have been sent to BT. I could elaborate further on the specific inquiry it's answering but I'm not sure if I'd be allowed to since that's approaching a game breach. Suffice it to say it all but confirms BT as scum with scum having a protective role. either BP or possibly a doc

ActionDan · « **Reply #216 on:** May 08, 2014, 11:34:38 PM »

*sent to SP
*all but confirms SP as scum

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #217 on:** May 08, 2014, 11:37:00 PM »

I don't see how Dan's failed vig automatically equates to SB is scum. There are probably multiple doctor types in the game, what if SB just happened to be covered by one?

Dan did lie about his role though so I'm pretty :/ about that.

I wasn't around for the let's lynch Raitaki party or the Raikaria train either. I'm still questioning NNR for diverting the lynch away, however I'm actually pretty alarmed by Raikaria's behaviour so far this phase.

1 -> votes for Dan immediately without waiting for a report.
2 -> Mistook Raitaki for a cop instead of a doc. That's just weird.
3 -> Immediately votes DNA for 'pushing for the doc'. That's not really what happened. Raikaria was the main lynch target but there wasn't enough people around to hammer him, so it switched to the next person available. In fact, DNA wasn't even around when people jumped twice.
4 -> Jumps on the 'well it must be a 1v1' conclusion very easily.

Cut by Dan multiple times.

OK well let's settle down and let the mod sort it out. No need to post it in public like that.

Serela · « **Reply #218 on:** May 08, 2014, 11:38:15 PM »

Well this is hilarious.

A lot of people thought SB was town iirc, and given the game is called DOCTOR WARS, and the nature of Raitaki's role, there is most likely more than one doc. SB very well could have simply been docced, so this doesn't make him "confirmed protective scum".

oh wait cut by dan saying he meant skypal, huh? cut more idc

ActionDan · « **Reply #219 on:** May 08, 2014, 11:39:43 PM »

I mean I think we can mass claim to solve this 1v1 completely if the above info is not sufficient. I don't expect town to have any other PRs besides me at this point.

also agree that raikaria's posts weirded me out holy crap.

but that's for another day.

and about the message... I just can't not use it, though all it does is takes away the "what if random shit happened" factor.

always down for a mass claim to definitely prove it.

ActionDan · « **Reply #220 on:** May 08, 2014, 11:40:33 PM »

goddamit*

I meant SB.

SB.

I'm dyslexic

ActionDan · « **Reply #221 on:** May 08, 2014, 11:40:51 PM »

and excited.

ActionDan · « **Reply #222 on:** May 08, 2014, 11:42:09 PM »

also Serela I do think he is likely docced. but I think scum docced. like probably a scum binary doctor

ActionDan · « **Reply #223 on:** May 08, 2014, 11:44:51 PM »

Quote from: ActionDan on May 07, 2014, 02:39:31 PM

And by confirmable I mean the friendly neighbor kind of confirmable

I didn't lie about my role yesterday, (if I was a friendly neighbor I would have left it at confirmable), I implied that it would be confirmable in a way which would become obvious.

Serela · « **Reply #224 on:** May 08, 2014, 11:45:54 PM »

ACTIONDAN YOU'RE CONFUSING ME.

I don't think we should massclaim though, and I really don't think this is a 1v1 either, but I don't know what AD has heard. Cut by more stuff. A scum binary doctor would make sense to be in the game I think (that sounds pretty cool for a high-doc game actually) but your explanation seems to be "Since SB was doctored, scum must have done it, so SB is scum", and I don't understand the last two points unless you're assuming in a 9P Doctor Wars silly break game the town surely wouldn't have more than one doc.

BT · « **Reply #225 on:** May 08, 2014, 11:56:08 PM »

Votecount 2.2

SB: (1) ActionDan
ActionDan: (1) SB

Not Voting: [5/7] NekoNekoRex, Serela, Sky_Paladin, Darkninjaabc, Raikaria

You have 69 hours. 4 votes are needed for a majority.
(Countdown)

ActionDan · « **Reply #226 on:** May 09, 2014, 12:00:53 AM »

... apparently the 2nd message was meant for me and BT is very confuse at what I was doing in my opening remarks. herp on him IMO.

Anyway I concede that MAYBE random stuff could have happened and BT is not scum. BUT YEAH RIGHT. I wasn't roleblocked and he's not dead. redirector? maybe but it's pretty OP with a vig + whoever it would have been redirected to isn't dead (and scum aren't going to kill zak twice [unless potentially they thought I was a friendly neighbor and wanted to send me to zak for that reason...]) doc? ok but I don't really believe scum wouldn't doc themselves THOUGH it's possible it's a frame job since I'm alive and they guessed I was going to shoot SB. STILL it's a lynch I would have wanted anyway and after a MC I'd be town anyway and I'll be the kill the next night

ActionDan · « **Reply #227 on:** May 09, 2014, 12:04:45 AM »

if SB is scum I don't really think the partner is DNA/Skypal.

I think it could be Neko, but that implies a huge deliberate bus which isn't outside of Neko's range of play.

Most likely to be Serela/Raikaria.

that's my pretty gun to head idea of things. I'll fine tune this later.

I think we should procede with a mass claim though.

Serela · « **Reply #228 on:** May 09, 2014, 12:12:13 AM »

I like how none of your explanations is "a town doc might have docced sb" ;_; I think in DOCTORS WARS it's very realistic to think there are multiple town docs. Especially when (some?) are binary and might screw with eachother :V

I imagine Dan is, like, a CPR doc (which is basically a vig except better)

ActionDan · « **Reply #229 on:** May 09, 2014, 12:46:07 AM »

No I'm 100 percent vig. Serela if you are a town doc that happened to be on sb you should say so.

ActionDan · « **Reply #230 on:** May 09, 2014, 12:50:30 AM »

Why would a town doc doc sb over me?

Serela · « **Reply #231 on:** May 09, 2014, 12:51:42 AM »

If nothing else I don't really see why massclaim is worth it right now, but I guess I'll wait and see what people other than you think about this situation.

Cut:Because you're such an obvious target that scum probably wouldn't risk killing you unless they already had a hitman or something like that? I mean I'd consider SB the best runner-up doc target imo

also some people might actually be relieved if you turned up dead `__________` No offense meant but

ActionDan · « **Reply #232 on:** May 09, 2014, 12:55:23 AM »

Also 2 town docs docing each other with a vig sounds pretty strong. Doesn't matter if scum have a counter. That's strong

Serela · « **Reply #233 on:** May 09, 2014, 01:02:51 AM »

This is a good point.

NekoNekoRex · « **Reply #234 on:** May 09, 2014, 01:19:37 AM »

I'm confused and still think SB has been decently scummy enough to warrant a lynch. I'm not really against a Raikaria lynch either since I still think he's scum.

I do think Dan is town though, "Friendly Neighbor-type role" being a vig is kinda clever and I don't think he would really fuck up a claim this badly if he was scum.

NekoNekoRex · « **Reply #235 on:** May 09, 2014, 01:28:57 AM »

I reread DNA and I think he's good mislynch material right now, as in, he's not scummy enough to warrant a lynch. His push on Raitaki turned out wrong (and I don't know how the hell it managed to get to lynch) but I don't think he's to blame.

NekoNekoRex · « **Reply #236 on:** May 09, 2014, 01:32:21 AM »

Meaning, the people who voted DNA are probably scum.

SB · « **Reply #237 on:** May 09, 2014, 06:53:47 AM »

Quote from: ActionDan on May 09, 2014, 12:00:53 AM

... apparently the 2nd message was meant for me and BT is very confuse at what I was doing in my opening remarks. herp on him IMO.

Anyway I concede that MAYBE random stuff could have happened and BT is not scum. BUT YEAH RIGHT. I wasn't roleblocked and he's not dead. redirector? maybe but it's pretty OP with a vig + whoever it would have been redirected to isn't dead (and scum aren't going to kill zak twice [unless potentially they thought I was a friendly neighbor and wanted to send me to zak for that reason...]) doc? ok but I don't really believe scum wouldn't doc themselves THOUGH it's possible it's a frame job since I'm alive and they guessed I was going to shoot SB. STILL it's a lynch I would have wanted anyway and after a MC I'd be town anyway and I'll be the kill the next night

Dan what.

I don't even think you're scum for this. I just think that you're stupid for pushing this as a 1v1.

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I wasn't roleblocked and he's not dead. redirector? maybe but it's pretty OP with a vig + whoever it would have been redirected to isn't dead (and scum aren't going to kill zak twice [unless potentially they thought I was a friendly neighbor and wanted to send me to zak for that reason...]) doc? ok but I don't really believe scum wouldn't doc themselves THOUGH it's possible it's a frame job since I'm alive and they guessed I was going to shoot SB. STILL it's a lynch I would have wanted anyway and after a MC I'd be town anyway and I'll be the kill the next night

YOU DID NOT CLAIM ViG
YOU CLAIMED FRIENDLY TOWNIE
REDIRECTING YOU TO A CORPSE SO YOUR ROLE GOES UNPROVEN WOULD BE REASONABLE
I ALSO HAD NO WAY OF KNOWING YOU WERE A VIG
HOW THE HELL COULD I HAVE GUESSED YOU WERE PLANNING TO SHOOT ME
AND WHY ARE YOU NOT CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT DOCTORS ARE USUALLY TOWN

This is too stupid.

DNAbc · « **Reply #238 on:** May 09, 2014, 09:01:21 AM »

Like the first thing I want to complain is how I wasn't even there for the deadline, and things escalated in such a way that while I may have contributed for putting Raitaiki up as a lynch candidate it is kind of unreasonable to hold this against my throat for my deliberately pushing the doctor to death.

I mean I wasn't even there, it was UTC+8 for me and essentially in the midst of the night, Raikaria, get your facts straight please.

DNAbc · « **Reply #239 on:** May 09, 2014, 09:14:09 AM »

Unfortunately, I am pretty busy tonight and has only skimmed the thread, will post more later.