Medaka Box Mafia - GAME OVER

[BT]

I mentioned this in one of my posts earlier today, why Shadoweh is scum based on roles. Because the town would have three protective roles... sort of. It's iffy but it's there.

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

Votecount
BT (2): Shadoweh, Bardiche
Bardiche (1): BT
Conqueror (0):
Sky Paladin (0):
Shadoweh (0):

Not voting: Conqueror, Sky Paladin

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

You have ~50.5 hours remaining

[BT]

This, by the way, is probably a strong justification for why Dan's role is in the game at all. Think what happens if the strongman kill offs my role and onto rawr's, which also happens to absorb the voteblocker. It's like an automatic town win no matter what. It IS an automatic town win. So Dan's role fixed that.

[Conqueror]

Oh god, what. So your ability is an abnormality then?
Forgot to claim my character. Najimi Ajimu.
Shadoweh, did you ever claim your character?

[Shadoweh]

*by drop off I don't mean in terms of physical posts since she actually posts more after D1. I dunno, it's just a feeling thing. :v Probably because this game had way too many posts in general.

I 'dropped off' a little after the Sky Paladin wagon changed to Oarfish because arguing with people about Sacchi's action that I didn't want to fullclaim and having their response be 'maybe vanilla townies explode on contact like Kuribohs' made me want to kill myself, and Kingault/Oarfish's slot was questionable enough that I was okay with the lynch. If you're going to ask why my posts dropped off on Kingmaker day when I literally didn't have to post anything but pictures of me playing checkers..

You're being super cheeky, you know. I Believe in Bardiche Town due to both his claim checking out and his reason for supporting Sky P town checking out with the condition he's claimed. If BT flips town I hope you finally kill me because I'm just going to auto-vote you tomorrow.

Cut: >_> You mean three PASSIVE roles, right. I don't consider mine protective. Also you are basically claiming Paperblade's role from Mirai Nikki. Being an investigation immune bp doesn't make me any less inclined to lynch you.

[Shadoweh]

Oh god, what. So your ability is an abnormality then?
Forgot to claim my character. Najimi Ajimu.
Shadoweh, did you ever claim your character?

My character is Medaka Scrooge McDuck. We have a very loving and identical philosophy.

[BT]

Oh god, what. So your ability is an abnormality then?

Yeah, I said so a few days ago.

You're being super cheeky, you know. I Believe in Bardiche Town due to both his claim checking out and his reason for supporting Sky P town checking out with the condition he's claimed.

Elaborate.

Cut: >_> You mean three PASSIVE roles, right. I don't consider mine protective. Also you are basically claiming Paperblade's role from Mirai Nikki. Being an investigation immune bp doesn't make me any less inclined to lynch you.

I consider watcher a protective role, though I said "sort of" because it's a butchered role if true. I thought a JK and BP were enough, so.

[Conqueror]

goddammit shadoweh im pretty sure that isn't from medaka box

Also, you're overreacting to me saying you dropped off. I've already said it was a side effect of everyone else posting way too much. I'm posting from the hip right now because I started to reread the entire mess and it was too much for me.

I can't help being cheeky, it's in my nature. I'm still not mafia though. I believe in Sky's D2 play coming from a town activated vt vig. And I believe in Bard's play being frustrated town, plus ninja/tracker etc. I really want to believe that you're town because then I can just hammer BT and end this fucking game. But you keep making these pokes at me. I mean, I know I'd be paranoid of me if I were in your situation. But I'm totally not as scheming as you're making me out to be.

I WANT TO BELIEVE SHADOWEH.

[Conqueror]

Bardiche claimed that he had a condition that he couldn't claim for his ability, which is why he thought Sky had an ability he couldn't claim.

[BT]

Part of my reluctance to ever not vote Bard is the frightening prospect of one of you two being scum. Seriously. SkyPal's not even in the running lest the world blows up.

CUT: Oh, right.

[BT]

Thinking it over again, I'm still confident that it's one of Bard and Shadoweh. If I'm not hammered overnight, I'll do my best to analyze those two tomorrow.

[Shadoweh]

I'm not overreacting. I am literally beyond reproach this game. I am going to start taking your attempts to throw shit at me as desperate scumclaims to find a crazy last lynch. I am your Townie Queen God and Master and you can kiss my obvtown scum-slaying-despite-your-best-efforts ass.

Watcher would be protective if I could do anything normally besides WATCH MYSELF DIE.

[Conqueror]

repository of claims:

abnormal backup
neighbor (abnormality)
jailkeeper 1x gov (minus)
role use limiter (abnormality)
motivator (minus)
some weird double effect role (minus)
voteblocker (abnormality)

jan/strongman/ninja (minus)
minus backup (abnormality)


self-watcher --> watcher(general)
tracker neighbor (abnormal)
vt --> vig (?)
untargetable (abnormal)
hated dreaming god (not equal)

I'm not overreacting. I am literally beyond reproach this game. I am going to start taking your attempts to throw shit at me as desperate scumclaims to find a crazy last lynch. I am your Townie Queen God and Master and you can kiss my obvtown scum-slaying-despite-your-best-efforts ass.

Okay. If my attempting to converse with you and get a townread on you is a desperate scumclaim, then move your vote off of BT and onto me. Seriously, Shadoweh, what the fuck.

Also, fullclaim your actual character because I want to flavour game Dormio's setup.

[Conqueror]

Also, on a serious note, Shadoweh. If I were scum I wouldn't have left you alive until LYLO just for the sake of trolling you. I make kills to control the flow of the game and push the narrative I want. In C7D I only tried pushing you as a mislynch because you forced the 1v1 with me; I was originally going to go for Schezo.

There are so many kills I would have done differently if I were scum here. The SB kill would be necessary for any scum, and the Sacchi kill is understandable even if I might have gone for Shadoweh in that situation. But killing NNR when he was tunneling uselessly isn't the sort of kill I'd make. I would have killed you that night, partially because you were townie, but more importantly NNR read me as town while you didn't.

[Shadoweh]

Let me spell it out for you: It was vitally important for the scumteam that Zakeri lived through Day 4. If Zakeri had lived, scum would have killed SB and Zakeri would have gotten his governor shot. With no known vigilante to counter this, Zakeri would have been guarenteed to waste at least one more day, removing attention from the fact that he was left alive in the first place, even if his vig shot didn't go through. I'm also the one who continued to press him to claim why he didn't vig, instead of saying we should resolve it the next day. Calling me scum at this point implies that as a scum player I'm a fucking idiot who can't plot out role connections. Which is obviously not true because I pointed out this possibly happening as one of the reasons I lynched Zak in the end.

You're looking for Mogana Kikaijima, the Swimming Miser. My power is based around how I spend all night watching my money. Because it's all about the benjamines baby.

[Conqueror]

Let me spell it out for you: It was vitally important for the scumteam that Zakeri lived through Day 4. If Zakeri had lived, scum would have killed SB and Zakeri would have gotten his governor shot. With no known vigilante to counter this, Zakeri would have been guarenteed to waste at least one more day, removing attention from the fact that he was left alive in the first place, even if his vig shot didn't go through.

Okay, you know you could have just said this earlier instead of passive aggressively telling me how scummy I was for doubting you.

[Conqueror]

the only person who suggested leaving Zak alive was Serela ftr

[Shadoweh]

I will probably not wait for deadline but if the day is boring I might randomly lynch Serela someone.
Zakeri should probably come convince me who he's going to shoot that's worth risking leaving him alive when literally everyone wants him dead? Combined with the risk of leaving him alive to possibly inherit SB's power as scum (why did no one mention this btw?) Also Zak did crumb his role in his first post, like a good Zakeri. :>

>:<
That wasn't passive aggressive, that was outright hostility at the ridiculousness of the accusations piled against me today and realizing I have been too nice in letting them slide. I am TOWN and I'm not getting lynched out of weird role-based paranoia from anyone, you, BT or Sky included.

[BT]

the ridiculousness of the accusations piled against me today and realizing I have been too nice in letting them slide. I am TOWN

This is all of my town games where I'm lynched.

Granted this game is mostly Attack of the PoE. I bet SB's laughing.

[Conqueror]

Almost started rereading Sky but then I realized I was considering that scum had an extra night kill that they decided to use on...Dan of all people.

I'll do one more reread of Bardiche.

BT, what do you think about Shadoweh's claim that she's obvtown via not letting Zak survive a day to govern himself?

[BT]

BT, what do you think about Shadoweh's claim that she's obvtown via not letting Zak survive a day to govern himself?

She's probably right.

Like, yeah, pretty much that. My insistence on naming her with Bard as my choices is mostly because they're both info roles and your role would be hilarious on the scumteam. And I'm not touching SkyPal. He's town. Not listening.

What's your main gripe with not lynching Bard? I'm not feeling the Do Not Lynch vibes like you and Shadoweh (I think?) and I still don't really know why (it's not because I'm scum).

[BT]

It's not only that. I think a lot of her play is obvtown, including all of her interactions with Zak, though that's one of the things I wanted to make sure I'm right about later.

[Shadoweh]

Because Lynching Scum Isn't Enough(tm)

BT: I'm sorry I don't have much else to throw at you, other then a vague niggling at your posts. Sky P has been town to me for awhile (and isn't doing that thing where he votes anything that moves, A+), Bard is the yin to my yang, and Conq is playing with my heart strings probably still town?

[BT]

What's your main gripe with not lynching Bard? I'm not feeling the Do Not Lynch vibes like you and Shadoweh (I think?) and I still don't really know why (it's not because I'm scum).

Seriously, I'll be extremely sad if I'm lynched and SkyPal dies and you two crossvote into submission and Bard scumhammers and leaves all the while requesting modkill. If I'm going down, at least I want to know what's going to happen on this front.

[Shadoweh]

If a Bard/Conq/Shadoweh LYLO happens I might hammer myself for the atrocity of it all.
As the scum's informational role, it wouldn't make sense for him to crumb his results, OR to out himself as more then a neighbour. Vanilla neighbour and then killing me since I wasn't inclined to tell on him was a viable strategy. It also doesn't make sense otherwise for him to randomly claim that thing about conditional abilities if he didn't believe it was a thing people had, similar to how Sky thought there were more vanilla townies.

[BT]

He crumbed his results?

Don't see what's wrong with outing another portion of his role after a while. It's pretty neutral as far as I can tell.

He might actually have a conditional ability. Or it's just a creative solution for covering for the fact he can't use it with the night kill. Either way...

[Conqueror]

Well, I'm pretty sure I don't think it's Shadoweh anymore.

I understood the general suspicion of Bardiche for the past few days. The CF7 hard defense, picking Zak as scum on the kingmaker day but only as second or third priority, picking at small details. There are just small things that make me think Bard is town. The killing of NNR N3 when Bardiche would know he was a neighbor. The frustration and defeatism on D5, although I guess that could technically go both ways it feels like something scum!Bard wouldn't do. The defense of Sky isn't as strong since if he was going to claim his conditional tracking ability later people would have questioned why he didn't think Sky also had an unclaimable ability, but scum was far enough behind on D2 already. Other stuff which I'm going to try and organize into another post when I finally finish up this Bardiche reread.

I don't understand the jist of your post #153. You're saying Bard is scum because Zak going on the NK means that the other scum used their role? Yeah, but how do we know that Zak went on the nightkill?

Counterpoint to a scum!Bard not crumbing his informational results: Bard did crumb a nightkill in Zombies. >_>

[Shadoweh]

NNR and BT's votes on the wagon feel legit at least and I'd be unlikely to support anything against them, except a doc. Not sure about Shadimeh, who is ever a wildcard to me because her levels of effort vary wildly among games. I've been trying to get a read on her during the night but I'm still not sure. Reading posts is hard. My efforts are wasted. ;_;

It was in his first post that day even. :V
Conq: Zakeri had the Jack of all Kills powers and nothing else. Can you tell me why you think he wasn't going on the kill?

[Shadoweh]

Bard plz stop being modkilled and come actually defend yourself if you're not going to marry me I'm not going to be your white knightfu.

[Conqueror]

Conq: Zakeri had the Jack of all Kills powers and nothing else. Can you tell me why you think he wasn't going on the kill?

Well, if you put it that way :v. I meant more to ask BT why that would support Bard!scum though since if we look at it that way it's just logical for Zak to make the kill either way?