Author Topic: Omerta - Town of Mafia (Game over Scum wins)  (Read 42885 times)

Sky_Paladin

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Re: Omerta - Town of Mafia (day three)
« Reply #480 on: March 02, 2014, 11:33:35 PM »
I said it earlier; but if there is a counterclaim then Raikaria was fake crumbing, and we lynch the confirmed scum.  I would consider this a good trade.  If I was roled right now, I would be saying "Raikaria is scum ++vote". 
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Raikaria

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Re: Omerta - Town of Mafia (day three)
« Reply #481 on: March 02, 2014, 11:36:16 PM »
As I said about the suggestion that I would be clear of Mitsuki flipped scum earlier, I would not clear me based off my claim. All I did was confirm that I was crumbing a PR during Day 1. I gave two possibilities for my intent of this, but purposefully remained vague because I do not want to give scum information.

I like to be clear Sky, but I also don't want to be clear when I'm NOT clear. That sort of thing leads to more false clears which may let the actual scum slip through the net.


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Serela

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Re: Omerta - Town of Mafia (day three)
« Reply #482 on: March 02, 2014, 11:36:54 PM »
i'unno if I'd call a fakecrumb confirmed scum but as I said I'm not entirely sure how to treat a fakecrumb

I see where you would get that reaction from it though

cut by oh hi raikaria
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Raikaria

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Re: Omerta - Town of Mafia (day three)
« Reply #483 on: March 02, 2014, 11:37:40 PM »
Also I have a bad habit of getting complacent when I'm 'clear'. So yeah, don't clear me when I'm not clear.


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Re: Omerta - Town of Mafia (day three)
« Reply #484 on: March 02, 2014, 11:37:56 PM »
I -totally- do that B)
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Re: Omerta - Town of Mafia (day three)
« Reply #485 on: March 02, 2014, 11:38:26 PM »
NOW THEN BACK TO COURSEWORK SO I CAN STAY IN THIS GAME IF I GET A BUTTLOAD OF WORK TOMORROW.


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Re: Omerta - Town of Mafia (day three)
« Reply #486 on: March 03, 2014, 12:19:42 AM »
SkyPal does this affect your stance `-`
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Re: Omerta - Town of Mafia (day three)
« Reply #487 on: March 03, 2014, 12:29:54 AM »
If all you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail

Zakeri (3): Raikaria, Darkninjaabc, O4rfish
ActionDan (1): Zakeri
Raikaria (2): Schezo, Serela
Serela (1): Sky_Paladin


Not voting: ActionDan

Zakeri is at L-2


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Re: Omerta - Town of Mafia (day three)
« Reply #488 on: March 03, 2014, 12:39:34 AM »
Bad news, Voting analysis reveals nothing.
I'm not surprised since day two was my fault, but I reserve the right to be angry at the fact that everyone on day one decided to leave their vote on a lone person. Those who did might as well not have had a vote to begin with.

I would like to take the time to encourage Dan's lynch.

as for the case on Serela, I'm not sold on Sky's line of reasoning. It's much too late in the game to be defending town reads unless they're ironclad, so I'll wait until after the obligatory reread. I will be trying to get that done with sometime tomorrow at the latest since I'm up on the chopping block today.

Ironically, Raikaria's insistence to not let people clear him has caused me to want to clear him harder. I think it'd be too easy as scum to fall into the trap of smiling down on people who don't consider you actually scum. That's not to say he's approaching confirmed status but outside that I don't want to lynch him today.

The best way to deal with a Fakecrumb is to ignore it. It's not suppose to be town bait to begin with, and it means nothing for alignment.

Sky_Paladin

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Re: Omerta - Town of Mafia (day three)
« Reply #489 on: March 03, 2014, 08:21:43 AM »
The only thing I will add to it is that this might be what got PX killed. 

Since Oarfish can get valid dream detective results, I want to believe in a world where innocent ActionDan can townclear the entire scumteam on day 1. 

##unvote
##vote Zakeri


That's L-1, by the way. 

I think Zak is scummy as all hell, I just thought a flip of Serela would be more telling.  His last post of "I can't find anything noteworthy but hey let's lynch Dan, defend Serela, and superclear Raikaria, but you should ignore fakecrumbs" doesn't reassure me at all. 

That said Dan still hasn't voted so I'm expecting him to hammer.  Why we didn't lynch him when we had the chance I don't understand. 
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Sky_Paladin

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Re: Omerta - Town of Mafia (day three)
« Reply #490 on: March 03, 2014, 08:42:29 AM »
Actually. 

##unvote

I don't have it in me to just leave it like that. 

Consider my vote on Zak until closer to phase end. 
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Re: Omerta - Town of Mafia (day three)
« Reply #491 on: March 03, 2014, 08:42:58 AM »
Ah, so that's what failing to close your bolded bracket looks like.  [/b]
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Re: Omerta - Town of Mafia (day three)
« Reply #492 on: March 03, 2014, 08:49:32 AM »
PX got killed for being a confirmed town PR

Raikaria

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Re: Omerta - Town of Mafia (day three)
« Reply #493 on: March 03, 2014, 10:47:02 AM »
PX got killed for being a confirmed town PR

This, I highly doubt that scum would want THREE confirmed town alive. [Schezo, O4rfish and PX]


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ActionDan

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Re: Omerta - Town of Mafia (day three)
« Reply #494 on: March 03, 2014, 01:51:31 PM »
I'm going to go with "i don't have a clue who scum is".

We should no lynch tomorrow regardless of what happens today

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Sky_Paladin

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Re: Omerta - Town of Mafia (day three)
« Reply #495 on: March 03, 2014, 01:55:44 PM »
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-Town has to lynch. If there is no majority at the end of the day then to one with the most votes will get lynched, a tie will result in a random lynch of one of them.

Aside from the fact that there is no no-lynch option, why do you suggest we no lynch 'regardless'? 
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Re: Omerta - Town of Mafia (day three)
« Reply #496 on: March 03, 2014, 01:57:22 PM »
It doesn't really seem like zak is scum.  Skypal really only makes sense with raikaria.  (Or maybe dna).  Serena is still town (i gotta have one right) and raikaria "might" be a pr or actually not lol.  Skypal raikaria is actually where I'm leaning.  Pedit missed that. No lynch with one confirmed town so scum wifom's the kill

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Serela

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Re: Omerta - Town of Mafia (day three)
« Reply #497 on: March 03, 2014, 02:10:40 PM »
wrong thread `__________________`
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DNAbc

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Re: Omerta - Town of Mafia (day three)
« Reply #498 on: March 03, 2014, 02:36:18 PM »
Hey guys.

I apologize for biting my tongue but I am genuinely too exhausted today to crack at Serela's posts. Though I am convinced wholly Serela is scum simply because I cannot begin to make head or tails of his behavior as town. Also, the abundant usage of creative yet indecipherable terms such as Not A Nice Thing To Do, and various other stunts simply strike me as scum trying to turn down the appetite of town players. I have no qualms over lynching him.

So meanwhile I am going to make some responses to obviously much more telligible and manageable posts. Sky pal, I disagree with your chances analysis because arguments do vary between solid or simply fluff, and there's bussing to be factored in. You can't simply attempt to solve it like a equation by ignoring all other unknowns so that it makes sense to you. Thanks.

ActionDan reasoning behind everything else consolidate lynch on you. I was making it clear enough I am displeased with your behavior but I am willing to give you extra time to prove yourself worthy or summat in lieu of that's how you play most games. However if you are insistent on being unhelpful then I do not see why can't you be the lynch candidate for today.

Raikaria...pretty null for now, moving on.

Zakeri I would prefer if you can actually stop pretending the quickhammer and cases on you aren't there and defend yourself.
Elsewise people might get the impression you are trying to fake amnesia.
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Re: Omerta - Town of Mafia (day three)
« Reply #499 on: March 03, 2014, 02:37:48 PM »
ActionDan reasoning behind everything else consolidate lynch on you. I was making it clear enough I am displeased with your behavior but I am willing to give you extra time to prove yourself worthy or summat in lieu of that's how you play most games. However if you are insistent on being unhelpful then I do not see why can't you be the lynch candidate for today.

*ActionDan should provide more reasoning behind everything else I would advocate for a consolidation lynch on you
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Serela

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Re: Omerta - Town of Mafia (day three)
« Reply #500 on: March 03, 2014, 02:39:40 PM »
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Also, the abundant usage of creative yet indecipherable terms such as Not A Nice Thing To Do
HOW IS THIS INDECIPHERABLE? ;_;
<mauvecow> see this is how evil works in reality, it just wears you down with bureaucracy until you don't care anymore

DNAbc

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Re: Omerta - Town of Mafia (day three)
« Reply #501 on: March 03, 2014, 02:50:36 PM »
I just recalled a term you came up with, its not representative of your posts. Go read your own posts objectively.
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Re: Omerta - Town of Mafia (day three)
« Reply #502 on: March 03, 2014, 02:53:46 PM »
We don't need a consolidation lynch. Kill action Dan tomorrow.
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DNAbc

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Re: Omerta - Town of Mafia (day three)
« Reply #503 on: March 03, 2014, 03:01:01 PM »
Its pointless to be fixated on your opinion because you will be ignoring flips and kills and etcetera.

Besides I can probably confirm the setup after today.
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Re: Omerta - Town of Mafia (day three)
« Reply #504 on: March 03, 2014, 03:01:26 PM »
I mean we can probably guess the setup.
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Serela

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Re: Omerta - Town of Mafia (day three)
« Reply #505 on: March 03, 2014, 03:08:09 PM »
Well I already guessed the setup IMO, it's just a matter of who the Doc/RB is.

As evidenced by my vote I don't think it's Raikaria >_>; But I guess it could be, who knows.

Anyway obv. O4rfish would change their mind if necessary based on flips or whatever, taking words too literally is a waste of time.
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ActionDan

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Re: Omerta - Town of Mafia (day one)
« Reply #506 on: March 03, 2014, 03:17:12 PM »
I did kind of want to vote bard out of reaction for making a serious vote, but I'm glad I didn't though since his reasoning seems pretty solid though, after Serela's "it's RVS so w/e".

Right now I'm just a bit suspicious of Skypal and Cheez, the former for discounting some pretty good advice (and voting Serela for 'being competent') and the latter for having some wishywashy opinions with a ?serious? vote on me for ??? (probably bad!) reasons.
Dan REALLY needs to stop making a habit of announcing townreads in RVS. It's annoying enough I'd almost vote him for it.

"lol RVS" does seem to be kind of the standard though, but it seems we're trying to get out of it which is good.

Tentative vote on Skypal for now I guess, I don't want to OMGUS and I have nothing better.
##Unvote
##Vote: Skypal


So this post along with zak being third on the bandwagon seems like zak town.  Scum isn't going to be afraid to omgus a scum bud.. which suggests none are at that point in time.  Which includes zak.

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ActionDan

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Re: Omerta - Town of Mafia (day three)
« Reply #507 on: March 03, 2014, 03:49:25 PM »
Raikaria just isn't scum.  Unless someone else is the power role, then yes he is.  I don't particularly care to out this sensitive info because it's super obvious. 

Leaves

Skypal
Bard
Serela.

At this point... 

##vote Skypal



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Dorian White

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Re: Omerta - Town of Mafia (day three)
« Reply #508 on: March 03, 2014, 05:44:47 PM »
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Zakeri (3): Raikaria, Darkninjaabc, O4rfish
ActionDan (1): Zakeri
Raikaria (2): Schezo, Serela
Sky_Paladin (1): ActionDan


Not voting: Sky_Paladin

Zakeri is at L-2


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Re: Omerta - Town of Mafia (day three)
« Reply #509 on: March 03, 2014, 10:00:32 PM »
It's been a couple of hours and there's absolutely nothing from Zak with, now, less than 24 hours to go.  I don't feel bad about this now, especially as Dan has seen fit to not vote for any of the likely scum suspects.  We have plenty of time to vote switch if Zak suddenly comes out with an undeniable case elsewhere. 

##vote Zakeri

Now it's L-1.  Zak, what do you have for us?

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Serela, the main reason I have issues with your posts (and I guess others too) is that there's only a couple of reasons to post. 
1 - You are making a claim. 
2 - You are voting or changing your vote. 
3 - You are defending against another player's claim, or defending your own claim. 
4 - To answer another player's questions, or to question another player. 

If you're not doing any of those things (or any other thing that I forgot to include) then your post is basically an empty content post.  Empty content posts are scummy because they give the impression of doing something when you're actually not doing anything; this is the kind of thing scum want to do and let slide because scum in theory want to appear to be busy little bees that are active and contributing.  Empty content posts from townies waste the town players time trying to find the actual important info in the posts and can confuse them.  I basically read your posts once, find half a dozen scummy things, then purge it from memory because it's a waste of time trying to make a case on Serela by what she says.  What she does (where she votes) and what supposed scumbuddies do is probably the only viable way of finding scum!Serela. 

I said 'in theory' because we have players like Dan who actively powerlurk and don't scumhunt while throwing out townclears and scumpicks apparently randomly even while playing as town. 
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