Author Topic: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Night 3 (Student Council Thread)  (Read 102883 times)

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #300 on: December 05, 2013, 11:04:10 PM »
Yeah, too little time, it's probably just plain not possible.

I put myself on nnr in that votecount because I would do it, but I'm still voting sky (which is also in that count)
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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #301 on: December 05, 2013, 11:04:22 PM »
welp

##Unvote
##Vote: Sky_Paladin (L-0)

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #302 on: December 05, 2013, 11:07:38 PM »
HAMMER SHUT YOUR SEWER HOLES
[22:40:12] <Drake> "guys i donwloaded esod but its not workan"
[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #303 on: December 05, 2013, 11:42:23 PM »
Sky Paladin, playing Kyoichi Saionji, turned into a monkey, climbed up a tree, and then made like it and leaved! I would have made a banana dick joke but that seemed uncouth given recent replacements.

You are Kyoichi Saionji, the self-centered, slap-happy misogynist. You've been thinking for a while that nothing in life will ever really make you happy, but now that you have a chance to duel your way out of this hell hole prison of an academy, you're allowing yourself just a little hope...

Despite your long, flowing hair, fabulous abs, and substantial kendo skills, you are simply a Vanilla Townie. Sux. :<

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated. Good luck!

It is now Night 1. Those with night actions have 24 hours to send them in.

End of Duel 1 Vote Count

Shadoweh (0): Serela
Serela (0): Shadoweh, Prims, PX, Zakeri
Prims (0): Serela, PX
ActionDan (1): PX, Roukan, Prims, NekoNekoRex
BT (0): PX
Raikaria (3): PX, Prims, PX, Sky Paladin, BT
PX (1): Prims, BigBangMeteor, Serela, BT, Zakeri
Zakeri (1): CF7, NekoNekoRex
Roukan (0): Sky Paladin, Raikaria
NekoNekoRex (0): BT, ActionDan, Serela, Roukan, Prims, Roukan, Prims
Sky Paladin (8): BigBangMeteor, Shadoweh, Raikaria, bofh, Roukan, Serela, ActionDan, Prims

Not voting (0): Nobody!
« Last Edit: December 14, 2013, 12:59:38 PM by Kilgamayan »
[22:40:12] <Drake> "guys i donwloaded esod but its not workan"
[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Night 1
« Reply #304 on: December 06, 2013, 12:40:36 AM »
Polaris replaces NekoNekoRex, effective immediately.
[22:40:12] <Drake> "guys i donwloaded esod but its not workan"
[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Night 1
« Reply #305 on: December 06, 2013, 03:54:44 AM »
Posting the End of Day 1 vote count for people's reference.
[22:40:12] <Drake> "guys i donwloaded esod but its not workan"
[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Night 1
« Reply #306 on: December 07, 2013, 12:03:30 AM »
Zakeri, playing Kanae Ohtori, couldn't even stay relevant for more than a day!

You are Kanae Ohtori, the bride-to-be of one of the biggest assholes in history. Despite your extremely high position within Ohtori Academy, you're really not all that relevant after the first couple of episodes of the Black Rose Saga, so you are simply a Vanilla Townie. Sux. :<

You win when all threats to the town are eliminated. Good luck!

BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE! A mysterious note has been left for all!

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ActionDan is innocent.

It it now Day 2. With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. You have 72 hours to vote. Happy hunting!
« Last Edit: December 07, 2013, 05:49:58 AM by Kilgamayan »
[22:40:12] <Drake> "guys i donwloaded esod but its not workan"
[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #307 on: December 07, 2013, 12:17:42 AM »
Right, gonna make a post here before I head to sleep. I will probably post a bit less frequently from now on - I found myself falling into the old trap of getting way too wrapped up in Mafia and letting all the HATE and ANGER get to me.

Firstly - does anyone have any idea what the deal is with this note? I'm not sure how far we can take it into account unless we get a claim or something legitimate. Could easily be a scum role or something like that.

Secondly DAMMIT PALADIN.

##Vote: BigBangMeteor

Pushed the Paladin wagon aggressively and more or less exclusively. Given we know now that Paladin was town there's every reason to believe scum saw him as an easy target, and BBM's incredibly single-minded assault of him has me concerned. His only other contribution to scumhunting was a halfhearted 'y'know Rou has a point about Serela' which reads a little of sheeping.

The other person who falls under suspicion for this reason is bofh/Alice, Lurker Extraordinaire, whose only contribution yesterday was to say 'Dan is probably scummy and Paladin is totally scummy'. I'd very much appreciate it if Alice felt like showing up and playing today. >.>

Replacements need to start contributing. Also PX needs some proper content today.

Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #308 on: December 07, 2013, 12:26:03 AM »
yoooooooooooooooooooo

I regret joining this mafia already because I'm trying to read D1 and it's just going through one eye and out the other (I think the phrase goes something like that). I got some gut town reads but I'm not getting any "oh this person is scummy" feelings. Rather it's more like "there are people who aren't posting a lot and they're all totally scum but otherwise I have nothing to say".

##Vote bofh for now because I think his position on the Sky Paladin wagon is the most suspicious.

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #309 on: December 07, 2013, 12:28:43 AM »
##Vote Raikaria

Much more comfortable doing this now.

What made me look in this direction in the first place is his initial posts on Zak, PX and Sky, which read like he was trying to make as many people as possible look bad. Zak "appealing to D1 Raikaria lynch meta" is ridiculous and makes Zak look bad over his tiny comment on the unvote regardless of anything else he was saying. PX's case had some things I genuinely agreed with (Rai's reaction to PX's question and Rai's vote on Rou) and Rai's reponse of taking it apart and harping on how bad it is got to the point where it seemed unreasonable. Then there's his pursue of Sky, even before Sky started digging a hole. Rai made a point of how Sky was buddying Dan SO MUCH when it's questionable why the quantity even matters or, more importantly, why half the playerlist is fine for citing Dan's meta or otherwise ignoring him and Sky isn't. This along with "LOOK GUYS, HIS VOTE IS BAD" really rang bells and still does. He just takes anything vaguely weak looking on Sky's part and crams it into his case all the way till deadline.

I think I kind of get what Rai meant about NNR now but it's a really convoluted way of saying "I agree a little bit". Why the assumption that there's a bigger picture you're not getting? Going "I don't see what's so bad here" but assuming I must know what I'm talking about is cheerleading when you'd have no reason to lynch NNR otherwise.

I'll also throw in something that's less strong as a standalone tell but works nicely here: assuming a bunch of stuff about possible Sky-Dan buddy connections while only properly giving an opinion on Sky. He never addresses Dan except for when it's needed in the Sky case and it's all "yeah this connection makes so much sense". What I think is telling here is that if as town he was so active trying to off Sky and proving a connection, he would have probably given Dan a scan too somewhere. But he doesn't, because all he really seems to care about is the Sky push.

I took some things into consideration, mainly just how hard he was willing to push Sky, and I think it's just as in-character as scum as it is as town. At least for Rai. I always do this on a case-by-case basis anyway.



Rou's vote movement is questionable in hindsight. At first I was a little bothered by how he concurred NNR was scummy for pushing hard on a bad wagon [Dan's] when he was doing much of the same, so I looked over his ISO and he never actually mentions why Dan wasn't a main point of consideration for him anymore. Because the crowd was giving Dan a pass? Rou's conviction on Dan was clearly strong enough so that's just unnatural. Saying NNR was pushing a 'questionable' wagon has the same problem because Rou never says why the wagon suddenly looked questionable to him, especially when he was one of the people on it. He just... switches to NNR/Rai scumpicks so 'cleanly' it reads like he was just sheeping popular opinion.

And now the thing finally comes full circle. Previously, Sky attacked me for going for Dan. Now Dan is attacking bofh for going for Sky. The scumpair theory is looking more and more reasonable by the minute.
And despite having nothing to do with anything this line just rubs me the wrong way. He'd just stopped waffling on Sky an hour before and he was already doing this.

Giving awful reasoning for votes - 'let's vote bofh near deadline because he made one post with problems I'm making up on the spot'
And another one. Major misrep of Dan's arguments here.

Little side comment on bofh, since Dan was comparing him to NNR: I didn't think it was AS bad. "giving awful reasoning for votes" gives NNR a run for his money because Dan's one vote wasn't bad on the surface (nor was it bad in general but that's IMO) but I don't know, I guess I feel more comfortable reading a guy off of one post when I know how he plays. I would have wanted to see NNR go first definitely.

I kind of have my eye out for Shadoweh because she ended up having no opinion on any wagon not Sky's, though I guess she was busy so it's minor. PX is guilty of the opposite - not bothering addressing the Sky wagon at all. I don't really know what to think here so hey PX why did you do this?

cut:

It's either a public cop role (which is kind of OP but it definitely isn't insane if it is?) or an announcer role (in which case it means nothing but someone thought Dan needs a clear). I don't care either way because I find Dan agreeable.

cut:

it's 'through one ear and out the other' Polly I hope your eyes are okay

BT

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #310 on: December 07, 2013, 12:31:09 AM »
actually Polly can you talk about your townreads then? it's probably better than nothing.

Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #311 on: December 07, 2013, 12:37:45 AM »
Obviously the written text is not going through my ears so it must otherwise be going through my eyes ::)

But, like, leave it to Dan to once again to be the centerpiece of role shenanigans. Jeez.

Re: BT funnily enough, my town reads are your scum reads. Both Raikaria and Roukan literally dominated the D1 discussion and I really can't see scum talking so much when there are 10,000 lurkers in the game (hyperbole). That was my reasoning at least.

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #312 on: December 07, 2013, 12:43:29 AM »
Oh I totally considered that. I'm actually not as convinced on Rou because his presence seemed a lot more sane than Raikaria's... except for those things I pointed out. They're significant enough that I want his reaction. I don't think any of the two wouldn't talk that much as scum (one hasn't played in a while and it fits the other's play unless I'm recalling Rewrite correctly) but they're probably not scum together because that WOULD be insane.

<_< Don't you have anything else? The total content of your slot is still really low.

Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #313 on: December 07, 2013, 12:51:04 AM »
Well I can just place a blanket suspicion over bofh, PX, SB, Shadoweh, Prims, and BBM but that's over half the game. I'll try to read D1 again but I dunno if I can produce to your satisfaction because as far as I'm concerned there's like nothing good in there

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #314 on: December 07, 2013, 01:18:32 AM »
if that's a public cop with I assume it is, it would have been 10 times better used on bofh/NNR(Polaris).   

Not super happy with prims.  that "skyscum probably wouldn't claim VT" is a good call but something like that is entirely too late at that point and I think Prims could have commented on the wagon way way earlier. 

##vote: bofh

only because the wagon hop sucked imo in addition to the rest of his one post

Don't lynch me.

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #315 on: December 07, 2013, 01:25:05 AM »
Half of the playerlist still has a depressingly low amount of content (even -with- considering it was a 48 hour d1), is it okay if I postpone having serious opinions until I get back from work tomorrow so they'll hopefully have posted? >_> I still don't want to lynch Raikaria, if that helps. And I don't want to lynch Rou, which I bring up since BT suggests him as a target.

Cut by Dan, I'm pretty sure Prims just wasn't present earlier then that.
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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #316 on: December 07, 2013, 01:30:40 AM »
I still don't want to lynch Raikaria, if that helps. And I don't want to lynch Rou, which I bring up since BT suggests him as a target.
Yeah can you at least tell me why so I prove you wrong or you prove me wrong because leaving it at that brings us nowhere?

(I'm kind of expecting replies from people in general so I'm just gonna call it a day now and respond tomorrow even if you answer.)

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #317 on: December 07, 2013, 02:03:46 AM »
I just reread your cases and to be fair I'm kind of disagreeing using meta garbage reasons, I'm sorry BT. :C

I totally don't think they're bad cases though I just don't really think they're actually scum.

I don't have alternative suggestions at this point but I blame 48 hour d1s (eternal d1 hate serela meta GO) and half the playerlist lurking through post-ed1 where there was actual serious discussion and lynch deciding to do. >_> <_< I'll be better after work tomorrow, really! *Cough*
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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #318 on: December 07, 2013, 03:52:26 AM »
Rou, your case against me is flawed because I was the originator of the Sky wagon. Your argument is that I'm scum because I saw it as an easy mislynch target, but the case against him wasn't any "easier" than any other one at the time I voted for him. Also what I said against Serela was not at all what you said about Serela. Just because your comment made me reread Serela doesn't mean it's sheeping. Your suspicion was based on his PX wagonhop, his push to fulfill Dormio's role, and interactions with Dan and Sky. My suspicion was based on him more or less active lurking and voteparking all day. As for me not having many suspicions... I guess that's true. I have a bunch of townreads based on gut but eh.

##Vote: Serela

Just seems like really blatant active lurking IMO. He's probably one of the top three posters in this game, behind like Rou and Raikaria (he might even be ahead of Raikaria) and has like two or three posts which make a scumhunting effort. This actually is sheeping Rou somewhat now, but Serela was subtly pushing Sky for most of the phase by refuting most of what he was saying, but didn't really take an overall stance against him, and then just declared near the end of phase that he was against the Sky lynch.

The flavour of the message seems to imply an Announcer rather than a Public Cop but idk why they'd just state randomly that Dan is town.

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #319 on: December 07, 2013, 05:48:26 AM »
Eating Curry And Switching Consciousnesses Like A Boss Vote Count

BigBangMeteor (1): Roukan
bofh (2): Polaris, ActionDan
Raikaria (1): BT
Serela (1): BigBangMeteor

Not voting (7): Everyone else

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. You have over 66 hours remaining.
[22:40:12] <Drake> "guys i donwloaded esod but its not workan"
[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

Serela

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #320 on: December 07, 2013, 05:48:40 AM »
Going to bed, but I think I said I thought Sky was derptown over scum earlier in the phase?

...actually, no, "earlier" probably just means "12 hours to deadline" in this case, which probably doesn't count I guess >> It's true that the last 24 hours are the only ones where anything really mattered, but...

I would have pushed NNR harder (I really would have liked to!) but given he had all of one post, there wasn't much I could do in that regard. It would have (theoretically) gotten better but then his next-up post was "sorry no time, probably replacing out!" so WELP

But yeah, in the end, I kind of -am- doing some degree of active lurking. I'm being more helpful then the average person you'd accuse of active lurking, sure, but I'm not doing of a lot in terms of actual scum suspects. I'm going to continue blaming half the playerlist not having existed enough past ED1 to have a read on them that isn't completely worthless, though. But yeah, that's for when I get back tomorrow~ Going to bed!
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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #321 on: December 07, 2013, 05:52:31 AM »
I meta-clear Serela.

fight me

Don't lynch me.

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #322 on: December 07, 2013, 07:58:57 AM »
and I guess I'll consider that BT case when I have the patience to read it

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #323 on: December 07, 2013, 08:18:32 AM »
Not super happy with prims.  that "skyscum probably wouldn't claim VT" is a good call but something like that is entirely too late at that point and I think Prims could have commented on the wagon way way earlier. 
I agreed with the case and had nothing to add, pretty sure I said this.

I have no reads whatsoever and want to relax and not play mafia right now. So uh.

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #324 on: December 07, 2013, 09:47:48 AM »
Tired after Madoka movie, so for now I'll just ##Vote Raikaria, sheeping BT for now. Also, I said I didn't necessarily think Sky was scum

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #325 on: December 07, 2013, 10:06:00 AM »
THIS HAT IS DELICIOUS.

Yeah; turns out the guy I pushed was a VT. Typical that the guy acting most scummy was a VT. Well then let's talk about who I am worried about:

1: PX

I firstly shall point out that PX has done literally nothing except tunnel on me the entire game so far. His content is non-existent. I shall direct you to two posts of mine; however; where I point out how flawed PX's cases are:
Where I vote Sky-Paladin but point out this case is bad. Apparently I am answering stuff for Zakeri when I'm actually making my case. In addittion; despite my unvote being spurred by Zakeri explaining what he meant, and the fact it was stupid late my local time, that's a reason to vote me as well.

Also he misreps me put pretty hard towards the end of D1.

Not liking PX. He's misrepped me twice; and done little but tunnel and lurk.

I'll also point out I'm far from the only one to mention PX's bad voting. Even BT mentioned his D1 reasons were bad when he voted me just now!

2: Alice - Not liking the complete lack of content here. Can't say much on it seeing as I don't know how this guy plays. Also apparently this is the bofh guy? I don't see how he's bofh but w/e.

3: Prims - OK; I worried about the lack of content here. Last time I recall Prims lurking THIS hard he was the scums. However; he did turn up for the deadline to hammer; instead of give scum two kills be continuing to lurk; but that said; he did hammer a townie anyway so this could be null.

4: NNR slot - Could b scums. Not sure.

5: Zakeri - Eh; if I recall Zakeri is only really active when tiring to be manipulative and is the scums.

6: Shadoweh's in this game 0_o. I didn't realize because she's LURKING SO HARD. That's not even normal for Shadoweh; so I'mma gonna watch her carefully.

I actually see where BT's coming from and applaud the first legitimate case against me that isn't full of holes of the game.

Anyway; as it stands; most of my 'worried about' reads are for low content purposes. As such; I'll vote for the person who I've identified actual flaws with and also has low content for now; until I have some ground a little more solid to stand on:

##Vote: PX


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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #326 on: December 07, 2013, 11:54:32 AM »
@Rai - bofh is Alice's IRC handle. He was one of the longer running players so the two ended up being more or less interchangeable, especially in Touhou-themed games where Alice could potentially actually be another Touhou character. V:

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Rou's vote movement is questionable in hindsight. At first I was a little bothered by how he concurred NNR was scummy for pushing hard on a bad wagon [Dan's] when he was doing much of the same, so I looked over his ISO and he never actually mentions why Dan wasn't a main point of consideration for him anymore. Because the crowd was giving Dan a pass? Rou's conviction on Dan was clearly strong enough so that's just unnatural. Saying NNR was pushing a 'questionable' wagon has the same problem because Rou never says why the wagon suddenly looked questionable to him, especially when he was one of the people on it. He just... switches to NNR/Rai scumpicks so 'cleanly' it reads like he was just sheeping popular opinion.
Dan never really fell out of contention to me so much as 'bigger fish came up and caught attention'. I say here that I still don't feel comfortable about him but there didn't seem to be any sign of a lynch. And I still push him about stuff for a decent amount of the end of day 1.

A large part of the reasoning I had for finally voting Paladin actually involved them (Dan/Paladin) being a pair and making bizarrely open efforts to defend each other. It wasn't a case I liked but the alternative (voting NNR who'd just asked to replace) was pretty lame. I felt there wasn't much I could say about the Dan case that I hadn't said beforehand (and when I did he basically told me I was a moron and people agreed with him) and with discussion moving elsewhere I chose to focus on the case I could reasonably get a lynch for.

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And despite having nothing to do with anything this line just rubs me the wrong way. He'd just stopped waffling on Sky an hour before and he was already doing this.
Again a large part of my theory was that they were a pair. This was kind of me trying to convince myself things would work out, because before his big 'I'm not cooperating with anyone!' rant I'd been getting really big derptown vibes from Paladin. We can all see how well that went : (

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And another one. Major misrep of Dan's arguments here.
THIS I will concede as me getting far too angry at Dan. One of the things I have learned - well, relearned from playing this game is the animosity. If I'm going to be perfectly honest Dan's play was bad enough but his attitude just got me really really frustrated about him, his 'holier than thou' routine even when he made scummy plays right and left. The post that came from was a mis-extension and I'll concede the argument was made while I was in a bad state of mind.

OK, feelings on the cases presented so far:
-BBM: Some good counterpoints. I'll definitely admit with these points in mind you fall way behind bofh with regards to scuminess.

-Rai: Generally a bit iffy all around but I'm getting a hint of townvibe. Mainly for this one snippet in his latest post:
5: Zakeri - Eh; if I recall Zakeri is only really active when tiring to be manipulative and is the scums.
Yes, he marks his suspicion on the guy who got killed last night. This could easily be chalked up to forgetfulness, but I severely doubt scum would forget who they nightkilled.

PX: Still isn't contributing, sheeps onto the Rai wagon with very little in the way of reasoning. This needs to change.

Serela: Not feeling this case as much as I did before. A lot of my Serela suspicion involved his evasiveness around the Sky wagon; now that Sky's flipped town, most of my theories on him fall apart. In particular I don't think scum had much to gain from staying away from the Paladin wagon - he was an easy target and most people agreed that he had to go. So yeah I'm getting a townvibe from him at this point.

So PX and bofh/Alice are the two people I really want to see explode in a sea of content and scumhunting. bofh's already sitting on two votes so I'll add some more pressure elsewhere.

##Unvote
##Vote: PX

Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #327 on: December 07, 2013, 11:57:38 AM »
Rou why do I get a pass when I'm also self-admittedly too lazy to do shit?

Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #328 on: December 07, 2013, 12:32:27 PM »
##Vote: Polaris
Lurkers can still be read and compared to other players based on what they have posted and what they haven't posted, so Polly is just is making an easy vote by handwaving everybody else. Also he replaced into a scummy slot.

Would vote PX, his recent sheep gives me the impression of "this obviously town dude is town and posted a lot of words because I'll agree with him because I'm town too" which is the sleaziest form of sheeping. I also think his D1 post is weaker than bofh's; bofh's opinions weren't unreasonable but seemed rushed, PX just lightly touched on common targets without giving decisive opinions. As is I'm just curious why he didn't vote Dan when he posted.

I don't see the case on BBM; you don't need a large pool of suspicions D1 and he was scumhunting fine (also gut says he's town!BBM and I'm obviously the best at reading BBM so hell yeah). Despite suspecting Polly I agree with him about Raikaria and found the effort from late D1 very townie, not on Rou though since I don't see Rou as the lazy type regardless of alignment and his posts weren't actually garnering him suspicion. However iirc Raikaria made a "townslip" like Rou pointed out as scum before so that's a bad reason to clear him even if I think he's town.

Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #329 on: December 07, 2013, 12:37:41 PM »
"and posted a lot of words so I'll agree with him because"

Don't know how I mangled that.