I wrestled with this all day.
##unvoteI've decided I buy Dan's story, because he claimed Miller. There's a couple of other roles that Dan could have claimed that would have had the same effect. Remember, Dan didn't kill BT. Unfortunately, BT was killed by his own ability.
What else could Dan have claimed?
Paranoid - or some form of paranoid. This would have been the ideal scum role cover, I think, because it would immediately rule out any further detective/tracking checks on Dan. Second, if he was really town, claiming Paranoid might prevent the scum from targetting him. But Dan did not pick Paranoid.
"zomg bus driver" Dan didn't say somebody must have bussed BT from him into a known scum in an attempt to make him look scummy. It's not implausible. If I was a scum bus driver and I could see a player who was acting differently to other players, I might assume town would want to check on him. If I had some kind of ability to change somebody who targetted Dan to target I nominated, it could work. The main problem with this is that it's not how a traditional bus driver works, and secondly, I expect that if there a 'deflect' type role in play, it would already have been used on a higher profile character - Kilga - on night 1, to make him appear as scum. (or town I guess). But Dan did not pick some kind of bus driver shenanigans.
Dan also did not claim some whacky third party role like serial killer or clockmaker or bombsmith or whatever weird thing you could come up with that would a) would meet BT's requirements for explode death and b) would give us some kind of reason not to lynch him. Instead he straight up said he is miller.
The question is, do we buy it? At this stage, I do. There was an easy out for Dan. It's possible that the town may have accepted 'miller' better than paranoid or some other crazy role but coming out and saying he was a miller without declaring on day 1 was basically suicide. And he has a self-vote. It looks scummy. It really does. However, there's no way out for Dan other than finding a better target than himself.
If I ignore the role business, my picks for scum at the moment are IHNN and Zakeri. IHNN chiefly because he didn't contribute anything, his posts have always been 'lets look at the situation, I will do a better analysis later' which never appears, and he popped up in the thread immediately after I first mentioned him on day 1. I don't think he mentioned anything about having to be afk for a big chunk of day 1 like Dormio did, for example. I guess it's not required, but the reason he's a scum pick for me is that. 1 - Not contributing. 2 - Pretending to contribute. 3 - Strange chronological behavior. Scumpick number 2 is Zakeri. Dormio made a good post about it at the start of day 1, and then there's the hand-holding...thing. It was just one post. But it felt contrived or fake.
So, to recap - I am unvoting Dan because I believe he is a miller.
Let's talk about IHNN.
IHNN started off ok in RVS voting for ActionDan.
Here is his first actual post in the game. I actually noticed a bit of banter between Dan and I Have No Name here, starting with 'hey this D1 is hard' and Dan agreeing. IHNN says he is going to review the day. Great. Here's the
review.
Look closely. It's not a list of leads. It's more like cut and paste responses.
#1 - It talks about Cheez, Serela, and Sky, and Dan's interactions with us. It doesn't have a feeling either way. It's just a commentary on what ActionDan has done.
#2 - Schezo, just...words. "I see what he did, not sure I understand." So, ask a question. It's just too passive. He is hoping Schezo will read it and deign to answer specifically something fairly vague.
#3 - Voting Sky for lining up lynches - yes, that is fine. Mentioning Serela as a way to reinforce it is not. He could have just said "I am voting Sky for lining up lynches". That would have achieved the point of his post succinctly.
#4 - Finally gets around to me.
#68 reads like commentating, not actually drawing conclusions.
That's what IHNN says about my post. Strange. Isn't that...exactly what IHNN's entire post is?
In the end, IHNN votes for me, but then says "Between Schezo and ActionDan I think I'd rather have Dan lynched, but forming stronger opinions will likely happen D2.". Hey look, we're at day 2 now. Let's see what IHNN has to say.
Post 1"I don't like ActionDan being 'cleared' (or given a pass) by roles because that's exactly what he did in Idolm@ster mafia, and that turned out to result in him winning as ITP." This is true.
"From there, still not liking Sky Paladin that much, likewise with Schezo. I guess I should look at Zakeri and Cheez some more too, though I wouldn't say it's a guarantee that there's a scum on the Raikaria wagon (I remember a game here, TD Mafia, where I was lynched D1...by 8 town)." Point 2: Dislikes Sky, Schezo. Wants to look at Zakeri and Cheez. Guess we'll look forward to that analysis later in the day.
Point 3 - correctly indicated I'd screwed up my vote tallies. This at least shows he is paying attention to the game - just not the contents of the thread.
Then there's
this -#1 - What's your reason for saying Cheez8 is town? Is it just your gut? You said you were going to look at Zakeri, and Cheez8. Did you do this? In that same post, you said you agreed with Dormio's analysis. Did you do your own analysis also?
And then, vote on Zakeri.
Next is
this post where IHNN complains that nothing is happening so he can't get reads. Then he picks the same few people to talk about. Cheez. Schezo. Sky. Dormio. Zak. What about Dan?
wrt ActionDan: I like how he voted me for saying it was the same as last game, but then Dormio said it was the same thing. Schezo IIRC agreed with him on that...maybe I'm misinterpreting? Looks like ActionDan is the likely lynch for the day and if I'm interpreting right it seems pretty damning for Schezo.
Then why are you voting Zakeri at this time, IHNN? You should be voting for Action Dan if you think you are right!
And that's essentially the last we hear of IHNN. He promises that he is going to be around more often now that some other things are out of the way.
Maybe he's going to show up and surprise me with a great analysis. If so, I'll be happy to change my vote. But for now, I'm not satisfied.
I am now voting IHNN because he was my pick for day 1 scummy behavior. I --goddamn cut by Kilga, twice.
##Vote IHNNI guess I just have one question for Dan -
Dan keeps ignoring when I ask about the 'how many scums do you think there are' question he gave explicitly to Cheez8. I want to know what it was about.
