Hello everyone! \(owo)/ DON'T HAMMER YET
I'm not going to vote for Shadoweh nor NNR, probably not even to secure a lynch in case my vote was needed. Overall all the points that have been brought against them seem neutral tells to me (I have to admit that I haven't paid too much attention, but I'm quite sure that won't change anyways). Particulary, Shadoweh's lack of motivation is a neutral tell for her while NNR seems to be doing fine from what I've seen.
Usually it would be fine to vote them at least to secure a lynch, but I'm very sure about who is scum this time (well, at least about two of them), so voting someone else would be voting town. Don't expect me to do that.
But who am I scumreading, anyways?
KilgamayanI have a lot of reasons to suspect him, actually.
First of all, I'm taking SB's death into account.
Scum wouldn't want to use their roleblocker constanty on the same person (Dark) if they took into account the existence of a doctor (I remind everyone that explaining why SB was killed still requires scum taking into account a potential doctor), because if they thought that the doctor would keep protecting Kilga (which the SB kill also supposedly implies) they'd do something more useful in the long term with their kill and risk it, otherwise they'd be fucked: Kilga would eventually provide material to lynch them all. (Basically, scum wouldn't let both Kilga and Dark live unless they were really sure of who the doc is, which is not the case.)
So if scum didn't think of that and SB died instead of one of them, that probably means that either Kilga or Dark are scum.
But Dark is being very townie, while Kilga has done other scummy things. Like this:
Serela if you're town stop being defeatist and actually push a case on someone else >_>
(one of the many posts encouraging Serela to play when he was getting lynched) and
C'mon, Shadowy. If you're gonna go down like this the least you could do is try to push your "case" by linking the Downfall video so we can all get a few chuckles out of the whole thing.
Why would Kilga try to encourage his suspects to play if he was town and really thought they are scummy? I just get the feeling that he's frustrated scum because of everything being too easy to him when he actually wants to put effort and earn his victory.
And anyways, if he really wanted to see more content from them he'd be doing an entirely different thing, like asking them questions about their thoughts. There's also the fact that if he felt he hadn't seen enough from them he wouldn't be voting them with the reasons he's given. (o_o)
Then maybe you should invest time in digging up and rehashing why people should vote Shadowy ahead of you! Polaris is not going to get lynched today, stop wasting time on him! I really shouldn't be needing to hold a townie hand through this process!
And this is Kilga basically coaching his suspect yet again, but the part about the ?townie hand? is so fake that it made me stare at the screen in wonder.
Basic Psychology lessons, part 1: When people praise themselves just like that and out of context when there was no need to do so and it doesn't seem coherent with their personality, DOUBT THEM. It's obvious they want to reinforce a certain impression of themselves with that, and that's probably because they're lying or going to lie at some point.
Another thing I don't like is how he postpones voting Validon both D1 and D2 while still saying he's scummy. After dropping him he doesn't update his case on him either.I'd expect town to still elaborate on their other main suspect, or at least comment on something.
He actually just mentions Validon in one post after the D2 voteswitch:
Gonna have to wait until I get home before I can properly digest everything NNR has produced, but just based on the volume and him actually being willing to accuse people of being scum I'd at least put him lower on the scum list than Validon and PX. Possibly Dormio too, since I don't remember him doing much of anything today.
I'm starting to waver a little bit on Cheez, he's made a few role-related word trickeration attempts today that look town-motivated if misguided. I dunno, I might just suck at finding newbie scum. I've liked Sky Paladin for most of the game but a few people seem to disagree there. Regardless, if the remaining two scum aren't some combination of Validon, PX, Dormio, and NNR then I'm going to be miffed.
Which basically just states that he keeps suspecting Validon.
Also, the D2 change of vote (from Validon to Shadoweh) was just based on her vote on NNR being interpreted as a votepark and her not paying attention to the thread, which is way weaker than his Validon case.
But it's not just that, he was supposed to want to lynch Validon since D1 but then there's this:
Cut by another Validon vote. Not sure I like it being a parrot when I wanted to see where Cheez's Dormio suspicions would go, as much as I can't disagree with Validon votes right now.
Here he's not happy with Cheez voting Validon, but Cheez updated his reasoning on Dormio and thought Validon was scummier anyways, so I don't understant such a reaction.
This validates PX's main argument against your Validon vote, I think.
Here he's defending Validon.
I could get behind any of Serela, Validon, Shadowy, or SB as lynch candidates, in roughly that order.
? while still wanting to lynch him. Yes, in the same post.
I get that could happen to town, too. But that's not the only time he's discouraged votes on Validon:
Polaris, what do you think of Validon? Your last assessment of him was "Null leaning scum, but I would like to see more posts with cases that are a bit stronger" from almost 24 hours ago. How has this changed, if at all?
This could be just a question, but it could still discourage a vote on Kilga's supposed second main suspect at that moment.
All in all, the attitude towards Validon lynch isn't genuine.
I can only conclude that Kilga and Validon are scumbuddies, and Kilga is busing him right from the beginning because he knows he won't be a great loss and that'll give him towncred, which will be better for the scum team. However, he still doesn't like losing a team member, so he keeps defending him.
Speaking of which,
Validon.
? Okay, I'll leave that for later. This post is already too long, anyways.
##Vote: Kilgamayan <- I've just seen the votecount and PX's vote is still placed but I feel like doing this anyways.
For now. I have even more conviction on him being scum than on Validon, and it wouldn't be fair to vote Validon without writing my case before (u_u)
I actually have a third suspect, but that will have to wait. I'm still doubting, anyways.
I still don't trust the slot but who knows, maybe Mitsuki will actually put in the effort PX failed to. :V
Of course! (?wo)7
