Mirai Nikki Mafia (Day 5 LYLO)

[CF7]

CF7 do you mean Paperblade is inspect immune or you are inspect immune?

I am an ascetic do not target me unless you want your action to fail

Also don't play suicidal town ever again if you have been. TBH it's weird that you wanted people to lynch you because of your role but then you ended up revealing your "role" anyway?

Ugh. It's a tricky question. Or rather that i can't really answer it without answering what's wrong with my role and how it's bad. That came out wrong... But it's the best explanation i can give.

CF7 thoughts on my Schezo vote?

Well we have some suspicions that are the same and some that are different, but i think they kind of compliment each other.

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

First things first.

Had a bunch of really lame text walls throughout D1, which is odd because he was also "busy" but had time to make a bunch of text wall reads

Yes, I'm busy. Why should that make me unable to make long posts?

that strangely enough also didn't have a clear conclusion on any of them except RaikariaUgh, these are just awful. He could not sit on the fence any harder about his non-Raikaria reads, In fact, he more or less just coasted on the Raikaria vote to the end of the day. Now only today does CF7 suddenly look interesting enough to vote.

Nice misrep, bro.
Yes, I have no solid conclusion on Serela, tell me how my other posts are inconclusive.

Namely, I don't see how my viewpoint on CF7 the other day was inconclusive at all.
What part of "I would vote for this guy except he's not as interesting as Raikaria" is inconclusive?

Dormio can you focus on other people first because it doesn't seem like anyone is interested in Zak?

I'm interested in Zakeri and that's enough for me.

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

Anyway, finally back to make that post about Zakeri now so it'll be done whenever it's done.

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

One more thing before that, though.

Dormio, answer this please. CF7 isn't for today, or any day, unless you can tell me why this is wrong.

My current theory would revolve around something like a traitor.

[BT]

I don't care if you're interested or not, there are more pressing topics I'd rather you address first. Zak isn't going anywhere.

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

Like what, Schezo? Not interested at all in that. As for NNR, I'll post about him after Zakeri.

[BT]

...if you're not interested you could at least explain why
I mean I don't think my case is bad

and there's SB too, I mean he's the original Big Wagon here

[Kilgamayan]

:| Paperblade do you have anything to say about, like, anything other than a continuation of your D1 case? I have no idea who else you think ill of right now, and even just a refutation of CF7's case against you shouldn't have taken more than five minutes or so.

SB/BBM can you tell me if this is normal Paperblade behavior? Since you two would know the best and are apparengly gutchecking me over him which makes me a little sad.

Throw Schezo on that list of people I need to reread, I spent D1 constantly forgetting he was in this game

[Shadoweh]

2.2: A Happy Votecount For The Two of Us

"Can anyone imagine yuno covered in rainbows and cute animals while wearing a flower crown?" Well I can now..

Serious Bananas (3): Conqueror, BigBangMeteor, Schezo
CF7 (1): Dormio
BT (1): Kilgamayan
Dormio (2): Paperblade, NekoNekoRex
Schezo (2): BT, CF7

Not voting: Serelas, Serious Bananas, Zakeri

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
There are 62 hours remaining.
Day End Countdown

[Kilgamayan]

ITT Paperblade and Hurrmio combine to form a single vote.

Should also probably explicitly mention that Paperblade didn't appear to try to tie in the flips with his case on Hurrmio. Unless Raikaria's flip was an implied part of it.

[SB]

so i'm reading now and uh

apparently 1/3 of the living game is immune to investigation

what

Conq, was your hider claim serious or not?

[SB]

Posts might end up cluttered but fuck it all I feel better when I play this way than with a quicktopic.

Of the people actually running their mouths I don't think anyone is scum over the lurkers.  BT is excluded for not saying anything other than defense of NNR.
If Zakeri actually posted I wouldn't really have a problem with him since I agree with his point on Raikaria being the lynch today just because "Raikaria D1"
Dormio is shamelessly living 50 posts which is just okie dokie chap. 
Serela's pulling a Serela and lurking day 1 out but is ~Confirmed town~ ^tm so I'll leave that be.
I like CF7 as the lurker to vote most though.  Since Dormio's shamelessness makes it a little better in how I feel about him.
##Vote: CF7

This passage strikes me as off. He talks about how BT is the only one me finds as scummy as the lurkers, but then when you look into his reasoning for voting disliking them it's:

-Zak hasn't posted a lot
-Dormio is behind
-Serela hasn't posted a lot but is conf town
-I want to vote CF7

Seriously, he just says "I want to vote CF7 the most out of the lurkers" and leaves it at that. It's almost as if he feels like he HAS to vote in the lurkers or something, which is just narrowing down suspects for no reason and really bad. The only other mentions of CF7 in his posts i could find via ctrl+f is an rvs vote, "I will eat you CF7" and telling him he doesn't know how being scum works and to stop ignoring NNR. So basically there's no mention of him actually finding CF7 scummy ever before he votes him and his reasoning for voting him isn't exactly stellar.

Also when he retracts his NNR suspicion claiming it was just to get him to move his vote one would imagine he would switch or at least mention why his next highest scumread (BT) was scummy in that post. He didn't. He also switches back to him later without giving any reasoning at all, only giving reasoning later on.

BT apparently claiming that he doesn't want to vote a lot of people while simultaneously attacking Schezo without a vote down anywhere. looks pretty bad too though,

90% sure Zak is town now due to CCing Prims then Prims dying in the night would incriminate him badly (along with stuff in my role.)

When I said CF7's wallpost didn't really give reads on everyone, I meant stuff like "BT gave some reads and then disappeared ,Pretty much same thing with SB." aren't actual reads and just looks like he's faking content to look like he's contributing more. He also says he thinks that Prims is scum (assuming he ignored the whole masons thing, which would EXPLAIN the beef he has with him, aside from the sweeping statement that his posts were empty, they weren't) then votes Raikaria for suspecting him. The last part has been beaten to death already, but eh.

Raikaria, personally i think that you're SK.
About HW/Serela being masons. Since when we're believing claims on D1 when the one who's claiming don't even have wagon on them? Also where's the proof that masons actually are here in this setup? That just pulling stuff out of thin air. So, no it doesn't make HW claim any townier to me.

There's never proof any role is in a closed setup 100%, this is just grasping hard and the fact that they don't have wagons on them implies that most people didn't want to lynch them.

Gotta go have dinner then prolly do homework but I'll be back afterwards.

[Kilgamayan]

Death in the family today. May not be home until several hours after originally planned. Sorry for the continued lack of presence, everyone.

[NekoNekoRex]

              
My condolences, Kilga. Take your time if you need it, I wouldn't stop you.

[Kilgamayan]

Upon thinking about it I realize I'm doing this entire game a massive disservice by continuing on. This latest life development wouldn't affect my play emotionally, but my free time was already stretched thin and now it's almost completely shot. I hate to do this on principle, but it's the lesser of two evils at this juncture.

@Mod: I would like to officially request a replacement. I will keep playing until one is found, but the sooner the better, for the sake of everyone else that wanted to have fun.

I'm terribly sorry to all my fellow players for dumping this on them (particularly all the SFers since I've been very vocal about playing with them). Hopefully this slot will soon be filled by someone that can actually meet Mafia's time commitments.

[SB]

Because my dad thought it was a good idea for me to walk with him and the puppy to the shops when it's dark and cold when I said I was doing homework, I may be longer than expected.

Also sorry to hear that Kilga ;_;

[BT]

BT apparently claiming that he doesn't want to vote a lot of people while simultaneously attacking Schezo without a vote down anywhere. looks pretty bad too though,

I can't parse this line. What are you even talking about here?

[Kilgamayan]

And thank you, NNR (and SB).

(Hey Bard if you're still watching I have a warm seat here that's JUST dying to meet your butt!)

[SB]

I can't parse this line. What are you even talking about here?

You're attacking Schezo when your vote isn't down anywhere, which implies that you found him scummy. I get that there were a bunch of people you wouldn't vote for, but considering you never said anything otherwise (if you did, I missed it) I kind of assumed that you were finding him scummy and therefore should be voting rather than flailing around a lot saying basically there are a bunch of people you don't want to vote for. If you didn't want to vote Schezo why spend that time attacking him?

[BT]

##Vote Schezo

Schezo >> SB~Conq >> NNR or something

[SB]

this was much earlier in the game, for clarification

[Schezo]

If you want to take your cases to the next fucking level, look no further than BTs 562. 
First, I don't understand why it's lame to just get a read from someone's frustrations and go with it.  If I get a townread I get a townread, the fuck you holding it against me for if you don't have a scumcase on NNR?  Really the only reason to open with this is to try and make me look as bad as you can.
I can waltz in at the end however I want.  At that point I was fine with either of them going and decided to base my vote off of how my other reads were voting.  I was getting really paranoid of BBM and SB so I figured the best vote would be whatever they didn't want and went with that.  I only had time for a quick skim of them and the things I already mentioned about SB were swaying my vote and I got scared of BBM for basically nothing but that's how the end of the day went down.  I didn't have time to go back over you since I wanted to decide on the two wagons. 
The real kicker is this shit right here.

Not taking a "soz wasn't there" excuse either because I'm pretty sure I remember him browsing the whole time (or at least until I logged off like an hour before hammer) and the above post suggests that he was following the thread.

Really?  All I had time to do was follow along via phone.  You want to outside game influence the vote with this then fukkit. 

CF7 must take lessons from BT because this is also next level scumhunting.
You had your chance to call me out for my unvote when I got a townread on the person I was pursuing.  It's be stupid to keep going after someone I thought was scum after I got a townread so I had to go reread the game for my next case.

HW isn't cool.  Wagon can't be cool.

Making a jest at huh what too fucking strong.
I already explained my rage at Serela doing nothing and this is before the mason claim was outright.

Raikaria is probably town, like he knows for sure. Then votes for me. Then that Serela vote, then BT vote.

Ok and?  That's how Raikaria day 1 meta usually goes down.  He plays awkward and people get mad and vote him for it.  I thought he was derping so I said so.  You want to tell me what was wrong with my BT vote when I made it?

I will shamelessly lynch CF7 if he wants to go bugger off without a claim near deadline.

I don't know I just figured with you being a leading wagon you'd have at least claimed before you left since there were like 7 hours left at that time.  I already stated why I find this scum behavior. 
I clearly stated reads and follow ups day 1 so what are you looking at when you say I'm not contributing much?  A derp town on Raikaria.  A townread on NNR.  A case on BT you want to handwave to make this comment.

If he's not anti-town, at least he's not pro-town either. And while overall behavior is suspicious, it's still not deserves a vote. Or maybe it will when i'll think a bit more about all this.

This fencesitting too strong.  Nothing changed in between NNR's post and so I'm suddenly a great vote for you. 

Well we have some suspicions that are the same and some that are different, but i think they kind of compliment each other.

nice.  I think you'd at least go over and comment on how these OP cases compliment each other but GJ.

SB mah man.  Hindsight 555 is negligible answer now so w/e
[quote author =555]Don't see how CF7 NOT claiming makes him town.[/quote]I already said I find this more akin to scum behavior more than anything.  So.

It's almost as if he feels like he HAS to vote in the lurkers or something, which is just narrowing down suspects for no reason and really bad.

I didn't find anything bad about the people that were actually talking.  Why would I pursue them?
Pretty sure I got a good shot on CF7 off about how he was being a loon and I still think he was using SK alert as a buzzword just because it was dropped earlier in the thread.  Never answered the question why Raikaria was SK over scum

Also when he retracts his NNR suspicion claiming it was just to get him to move his vote one would imagine he would switch or at least mention why his next highest scumread (BT) was scummy in that post. He didn't. He also switches back to him later without giving any reasoning at all, only giving reasoning later on.

I'm gonna need some context on this one though because I got no idea what you're talking about.  If it's the unvote post I'm gonna hurt you.

So we got the BT scum because that was terrible.  We got the derptown making a polluted case and we got not sure yet on SB. 
##Unvote:
##Vote: BT

[CF7]

Also i'm not sure if you're all blind or something, but i actually claimed my role as a VT. Why people keep ignoring it is a mystery.

[Schezo]

This is at your lack of claim yesterday.

[CF7]

Here.

[BT]

First, I don't understand why it's lame to just get a read from someone's frustrations and go with it.  If I get a townread I get a townread, the fuck you holding it against me for if you don't have a scumcase on NNR?  Really the only reason to open with this is to try and make me look as bad as you can.

My reason for opening with that is to show dissatisfaction with the whole of your D1 play because that's how I feel. Sure townread whoever you want but you made a point of attacking NNR over his play so after you dropped it I'm asking myself what went on in the first place. If all it took is a frustrated reply (which imo is being overrated) to just cancel out the numerous problems you were spewing about his play then it reflects badly on that press.

I'll concede that you being uninterested in me in the final hours of the day is fine actually. But why was your vote up to SB and BBM? It seems like a lame way of avoiding having to prefer one wagon over the other because some other side suspicions from earlier cover for that. At this point I really didn't know why you were still voting me and not taking a more active part in discussing the wagons. And you didn't take an active part all the way to day end.

I also don't appreciate this case badmouthing, it lets you vote me as if my case is worse than it really is. You didn't even address it fully so that's not warranted on your part. Not to mention there's more to my play.

I clearly stated reads and follow ups day 1 so what are you looking at when you say I'm not contributing much?  A derp town on Raikaria.  A townread on NNR.  A case on BT you want to handwave to make this comment.

This was to CF7 but it feels like you're giving yourself way too much credit.

This fencesitting too strong.  Nothing changed in between NNR's post and so I'm suddenly a great vote for you.

We got the derptown [CF7] making a polluted case

First quote and other remarks looks like you're otherwise thinking he's scum but you have to conclude that he's derptown because I don't know? Is it because other people said so?

[BT]

You [BBM] don't trust him [Zak] solely because of a setup you haven't seen the entirety of?

This is literally the only thing you brought up against BBM to justify why you claim to have been scared shitless of BBM and SB right now.

[BT]

So yes I think I'll call bullshit on your excuse for not being more involved in the hunt.

[BT]

TBF you do mention you had "nothing" on BBM to justify this. But yeah there's not enough evidence for this and it's not a solid way of picking a wagon in the first place.

[BT]

Basically my thoughts here is that assuming all wagons on D1 were town (or just D1 end if you don't want my bias) scum are likely to just do the minimum and Schezo's way of sweetening up his below-minimum sounds like a tale scum would tell in his position in lack of anything else.