Gensokyo Holy War Mafia (Game Over)

[Pesco]

Too many ifs. Hammer pl0x.

[BT]

I'm not going to say the same as everyone else has about Serela for the 10th time.

However, I still think the Dormio case is stronger right now. I just can't help but think... Serela is being Serela, which makes it somewhat null.

Would lynch Serela, but prefer Dormio still.

Serela is indeed being Serela. Are you trying to win the award for weakest wagon dismissal?

Continuing to comment on the "Zak didn't cop Affinity guys" thing up to here sounds like you're trying to make a point from nothing at all, making me doubt the townread I gave this move and think that you're trying to paint a claim scummy.

I dunno. I mean it's just him restating my opinion.
It's like the NNR/Raitaki slot is so intent on looking as scummy as possible. It's screwing with me man.

Nah, I pointed out that post to you because it doesn't seem like a fake 'read', regardless of alignment. Just poking around. You think he's just scummy or there might as well be scum here?

He even posts several times afterwords without commenting on Zak/IHNN at all.

He posted twice, not to mention bolded font. Why is this point so crucial, apparently strong compared to the IHNN/Zak comparison that "isn't as horrible as other people say"? It sounds like suddenly Dormio is bad because he needs to be bad.

Sorry, I'm not convinced that you're pushing a counterwagon that might also flip scum as a powerrole when you don't care to mention other reads as well. You're net survival, ergo scum.

You've also yet to respond to "HEY SERELA YOU WERE LURKING THROUGH DEADLINE" for AN ENTIRE 72hr DAY PERIOD now. You wanted me to ask questions and I asked them and you don't give a damn. Because you're scum and you want to survive for a night while we waste a mislynch.

@BT: Reads? Let's see, Dormio and Zakeri look scum. Shadoweh, Raikaria and Schezo look town. Everyone else is at various levels of null.
...
BT why did you feel the need to suddenly post that list of reads, and how is Dormio being deliberately unhelpful (if I'm following you correctly) not an awful thing to do as town?

Shadoweh looks town?

I felt the need to post reads because I felt like people had the wrong set of reads on for the majority of the game until that point, I guess. I felt kind of crappy afterwards because it seems like I have a solid set of reads when it's not as solid as that (see Raikaria in this post for instance).

Dormio being unhelpful is an awful thing to do as town. Go on. Thanks for telling us that he's town, though.

Stopped right before Zak's reread post. Want to post this in the meantime because we're near deadline and this post is good. Girls are preparing.

[BT]

Who's being hammered?

[BT]

Oh, Serela. Still want to finish this though.

[BT]

Wait reading my own post makes me want to check what happened to Raikaria's Dormio read. I'll do that too, I guess.

[BT]

Raitaki's*

Hopefully the only time this game

[Edible]

Raitaki's*

Hopefully the only time this game

I have made that mistake a million times already.

Tempted to rename one of them to "BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL" or something

[BT]

As awkward as it is to pick between them, I would have to say Serela's content is objectively better, and Dormio's posting does kind of remind me of him from last game. Though he wasn't scum there..

Okay nevermind this tops Raikaria's shit. Have his award.

And when I consider Serela's reaction to Raikaria's choice to include the word 'hammer' in his post (because the post implies Rai taking his time with hammer if anything) I will gladly pick Shadoweh over Raikaria as his buddybuddy.

Lecithul has been prodded for inactivity. He will be modkilled if he has not posted something meaningful by the end of the day. ("Prod dodge, will post later" is not meaningful.)

I think I love you. As a mod.

With regards to Serela v. Dormio, I feel that Serela's response to my concerns was adequate and I don't think that his posts today have been scummy. On the other hand, Dormio's Day 1 was really off so I think that out of these two, I'd rather have Dormio lynched today.

Have anything to say about other peoples' arguments? Are you reading those, perhaps?

That's not entirely true, after shooting he'd be a vig that we know exists because a bunch of people died. Edible, why would he have shot a possible PR on Night 1? Not that Serela isn't capable of that, but I don't think waiting for a claim is crazy. Serela, let's say you get to live with this sweet death you're promising, who exactly is on your death list now?

I find it exceptionally smelly that you've yet to really address your Serela townread (??) as far as I remember and you let him get away with this stuff instead of pressuring him. ("this stuff" being his display of pretty much n (n->o) reads)

Who have I expressed as thinking as being scummy in some capacity? Well there you go.

I'm not narrowing it down any more then that because :thingsscumdoesn'tneedtoknow:

I won't give you my reads because UH I BLAME SCUM

As tempting as it is to leave Serela alive for obvious vig testing I'm pretty dang sure about this now. MAYBE if there was a better counterwagon.

[BT]

So just to make it clear, I'd put money on Shadoweh flipping scum if Serela does. You know what to do if that happens and I die tonight instead of Schezzy.

[BT]

I wish to give Serela a chance to post. We are not near the deadline yet after all. If the post and reasons are not satisfactory, after re-reading the cases and Serela's posts multiple times to make sure, I will hammer.

Holy crap Raikaria talking about hammering when Shadoweh hasn't even posted and neither of us have claimed D:

Just to reiterate because I find this damning.

[Edible]

Is there any real reason to delay a lynch further?

##unvote

I guess Dormio gets another day to convince me he's not scum.

[Pesco]

Maybe Zak wants to come in and say something more? You can see him around as well as I can Edible.

[Edible]

Yeah but I don't bother checking :V

[Kilgamayan]

That page was hidden from normal user view for a reason. >_>

Vote count soon, I promise! Certainly sooner than the deadline that's 4.5 hours away.

[Edible]

deadline that's 4.5 hours away

wat

[Pesco]

That page was hidden from normal user view for a reason. >_>

I don't see that page. I see something else. Such as dead people/

[Edible]

Oh, right.  The day started at ~8:30, not 7.  Whoopsie.

[Kilgamayan]

I'm gonna try to put it back to its normal time tomorrow if I can, yeah.

[PX]

Hymn of Faith

Dormio (5): Schezo, Raitaki, Raikaria, Serela, Lecithul
Serela (5): Polaris, BT, Pesco, Dormio, Zakeri
Polaris (1): Shadoweh

Not voting (1): Edible
Serela is at L-2
Dormio is at L-2

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. There are 4 and a half hours left in the day.

[Edible]

Oh, Serela's not at L-1.

Guess someone else needs to unvote to lynch him.  When did Shadowert say she was coming back?

[Raikaria]

Is there any real reason to delay a lynch further?

##unvote

I guess Dormio gets another day to convince me he's not scum.

I'm confused, you ask if there's a reason to delay a lynch further then you take Dormio off L-1.

Upon re-reading, I understand the cases on Serela a lot more. It's worse than normal Serela brainfarts. It's inconstancy and seemingly unfocused wagon hopping for4 the most part, with reasons that don't even make a lick of sense half the time.

My gut says of the two Dormio is more likely scum. Especially with my 'Let Serela shoot Lecithul' idea. However, I am at this point ready to swing both ways.

That did not sound right.

[Edible]

I'm confused, you ask if there's a reason to delay a lynch further then you take Dormio off L-1.

I thought Serela was at L-1, so I unvoted in preparation to hammer him. <_<

[BT]

My gut says of the two Dormio is more likely scum. Especially with my 'Let Serela shoot Lecithul' idea. However, I am at this point ready to swing both ways.

That did not sound right.

Yeah, it didn't, because claim shenanigans have nothing to do with gut.

[BT]

Let's hammer Serela right now. I won't be able to yell at you people when deadline is at 3:30 AM.

[WHMZakeri]

I've always been able to keep my Takis from my Karias.
Although, I probably have an advantage since in the game I met them in, they were both my other two scumbuddies.

@Serela: How were they different? You dismissed his unvote and the fact that he wanted to go after lurkers to learn from our mistake last game, and then you vote him for pointing out that he had been voting for a lurker. I'm afraid I don't understand.
Fair point on the turn around, I suppose, but I don't think it's weird to go from "This could be a scumtell, but I think it's null" to "I'm going to press the possible scumtell anyways" that early in the game.

I suppose the affinity thing makes more sense if you thought Karia's vote was garbage to begin with. Point withdrawn
The fact that Raikaria wasn't getting lynched yesterday had nothing to do with my last bit. I'm asking if you think Raikaria could be scum with Affinity's slot or not.

Your day 2 is better in that it's not as scum as day one was - it's null, not town.
To be honest, I'm still waffling between you and Dormio, but I voted you because I actually had things I wanted you to clear up.

[Raikaria]

The fact that Raikaria wasn't getting lynched yesterday had nothing to do with my last bit. I'm asking if you think Raikaria could be scum with Affinity's slot or not.

Wait, why would I be scum with the Affinity slot? I just suggested a couple of posts ago that Serela nightkills the Affinity slot... whatever gave you the idea of AffinitySlot+Me, out of interest, because I *really* do not see that logic.

[Raikaria]

Not to mention me attacking you for not copping Affinity. If I'm scum with Affinity, why on earth would I suggest that?

[Serela]

What?

It's impossible to tell anything about Affinity's slot because it practically doesn't exist. It's probably about to get modkilled anyway.

And, uh, Zakeri, you should clear up your waffling in one direction or the other >_>; A single vote has a pretty significant effect on what the lynch is gonna be right now.

I don't really have much else to say.

Raikaria:You can suggest anything after-the-fact whether you're town or scum, because it's already too late.

[WHMZakeri]

I'm not the one suggesting you're scum with affinity, I was trying to get Serela to clear up the vote on day one.

[Serela]

Wait, you mean you're suggesting that I was saying that d1?

I'm not so silly as to suggest scumteams seriously d1.