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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #240 on: March 16, 2013, 12:39:16 AM »
What do you make of Raikaria and NNR's attitudes towards each other?

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #241 on: March 16, 2013, 12:39:49 AM »
Also since Shadoweh didn't respond to the futa comment she's obviously not town.

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #242 on: March 16, 2013, 12:44:55 AM »
I haven't been paying enough attention to note them, to be honest. Delving will have to wait until I'm not having an insomnia period with too much work. I am mostly looking to see what Dan is going to say besides lulz.

I purposely ignored it, but my immediate reply would be takes one to know one.


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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #243 on: March 16, 2013, 03:09:02 AM »
Day 1, DEFCON 3
Votecount Paul Bunyan
ActionDan:    Raikaria, NekoNekoRex, Zakeri, Serela (4)
NekoNekoRex:    BT, Dormio (2)
huhwhat:    ActionDan, PX (2)
rawr:    Shadoweh, IHNN, huhwhat  (3)

Not voting: rawr

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
You have 3 days and 2 hours left.

rawr has been prodded with the passion of a thousand burning suns.
« Last Edit: March 16, 2013, 10:30:19 PM by Conqueror »


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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #244 on: March 16, 2013, 04:46:32 AM »
Day 1, DEFCON 3 - Game Event

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Saturday, 16 March 2013, 00:39
C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 05 MOSCOW 009533
SIPDIS
SIPDIS
EO 12958 DECL: 08/30/2016
TAGS PGOV, ECON, PINR, RS">RS
SUBJECT: LAST WEEK'S GAME
Classified By: Deputy Chief of Mission [REDACTED] A. [REDACTED]. Reason 1.4 ( b, d)

SUMMARY:


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Rocky don't look at me with that face.
No Rocky I am not going to Sharpie angry eyebrows onto you, just so you can look at me with a different face.

Okay Rocky I guess you CAN look at me with that face then. I guess you're right you don't have a choice.
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These messages are brought to you today by the letter "H" and the number "4".
« Last Edit: March 16, 2013, 08:17:25 AM by Conqueror »


On tue un homme, on est un assassin. On tue des millions d'hommes, on est un conqu?rant. On les tue tous, on est un dieu.
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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #245 on: March 16, 2013, 05:49:19 AM »
Good activity.
Don't know what I can really say right now.

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #246 on: March 16, 2013, 05:50:04 AM »
I purposely ignored it, but my immediate reply would be takes one to know one.
I will, however, note that there is no denial here.

Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #247 on: March 16, 2013, 07:12:41 AM »
one of those messages is either shadoweh or supposed to sound like shadoweh

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #248 on: March 16, 2013, 07:50:08 AM »
@mod: Is that first post from the scum QT? It is honestly hard to tell.
I think the Sesame Street reference sounds like BT actually. I am suspicious of that actually being leaked and Conq not just giving it because it's hilarious. (also if I were scum I would never post in the QT because I can't change the way I am.)


<Conqueror> The post before the dashes is flavour.
« Last Edit: March 16, 2013, 08:13:38 AM by Conqueror »


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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #249 on: March 16, 2013, 08:01:45 AM »
Good activity.
Don't know what I can really say right now.

I be sleeping.

Also I'm waiting for ActionDan's response to about three of us demanding her explains himself.

IDK enough about meta to comment on the leaks.


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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #250 on: March 16, 2013, 08:54:39 AM »
So I just off work, and the only reason I'm functioning is soda addiction + free Sprite, and I was just told that I might work tomorrow, which was 100% guaranteed my first day off in 10 days. Fuck this gay earth see you guys in around 14 hours or so. Proddodge

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #251 on: March 16, 2013, 08:59:24 AM »
Oy vey iz mir.

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #252 on: March 16, 2013, 11:09:01 AM »
IT SURE WOULD BE NICE IF I COULD ACTUALLY USE THIS NUKE CONQ. YOU PROMISED ME NUCLEAR DEATH. 1/5 STARS.

Raikaria: No matter the explanation I doubt it will be satisfying to people unless it's 'huh what accidentally leaked number of scum/roles/outted all his buddies' so you should not wait for him. And probably get off Dan while you're at it because his wagon is dumb and based on HE SURE DID A THING.


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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #253 on: March 16, 2013, 11:40:46 AM »
I'm not getting off Dan unless something else happens.

Right now Dan is refusing to explain this mysterious scumread he has, which is anti-town, saying 'Hey guys you should totally vote this person because I found this scumread, but I won't tell you what it is' is stupidly anti-town and I am going to lynch him for it unless he changes his tone.

It doesn't matter if we don't agree with his scumread, as long as he actually gives an understandable reason and stops meeting the above, I can actually start considering voting someone else. As it stands Dan is by far the most anti-town person in this game, and usually giving off massively anti-town vibes... means you're not town.


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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #254 on: March 16, 2013, 11:49:33 AM »
##Unvote
##Vote: Raikaria


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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #255 on: March 16, 2013, 12:06:30 PM »
##Unvote
##Vote: Raikaria


If this is an attempt to threaten me off voting ActionDan, it's not working.

If it's an attempt to vote me for some other reason, why vote me over the other three voting ActionDan, when I'm the only one to have clearly explained my reasons beyond his activity?


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I don't even remember who put the above in my sig. [Wasn't me] Nor do I understand why I keep it here anymore.
Those two facts sum me up pretty well.

Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #256 on: March 16, 2013, 01:01:49 PM »
IT SURE WOULD BE NICE IF I COULD ACTUALLY USE THIS NUKE CONQ. YOU PROMISED ME NUCLEAR DEATH. 1/5 STARS.

Raikaria: No matter the explanation I doubt it will be satisfying to people unless it's 'huh what accidentally leaked number of scum/roles/outted all his buddies' so you should not wait for him. And probably get off Dan while you're at it because his wagon is dumb and based on HE SURE DID A THING.

Any explanation outside of "lol, just kidding" or "I'm not telling you because it's so obvious" is a satisfactory explanation.

Shadoweh, tell me more about why Rawr used to be scum, or why Raikaria's keeping his vote on Dan being anti-town is anti-town enough to warrant a vote from you.

Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #257 on: March 16, 2013, 01:38:04 PM »
Shaddy~ both times you've voted that I checked you were like "This is dumb, you're being dumb, stop being dumb" and then the other guy was like "No." and then you voted them for insubordination.

I want to know who the scum are, but I have crippling insecurities and I need to you give me a good reason why they are scum :(

Why is it that only the people who don't need to talk are the ones talking?

Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #258 on: March 16, 2013, 08:32:18 PM »
I'll post more later but...

##vote: serela
Its easier to post from a computer

Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #259 on: March 16, 2013, 08:42:41 PM »
I'm so lonely.
I should kidnap that damn rock.

##Unvote: Actiondan
##Vote: Shadoweh

Dan still needs to face his crimes
PX is still scum.

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #260 on: March 16, 2013, 09:14:40 PM »
Man, I go to sleep and hope that there will be this flurry of activity for me to go over and look at when I wake up.
Every morning I'm disappointed.

Still don't like Raikaria.
Reacting so largely to the ED1 random votes on himself yet basically completely ignoring my suspicions of him is certainly a thing.
Along with everything else I've said.

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #261 on: March 16, 2013, 09:18:26 PM »
Mass prod on ActionDan, IHNN, NNR, and BT


On tue un homme, on est un assassin. On tue des millions d'hommes, on est un conqu?rant. On les tue tous, on est un dieu.
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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #262 on: March 16, 2013, 09:21:45 PM »
Holy shit they were in this game?

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #263 on: March 16, 2013, 09:26:30 PM »
I'm reading, cutie.

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #264 on: March 16, 2013, 09:38:32 PM »
I thought I posted something last night but I was remembering the night before.
Shadoweh's blank vote bugs me but not enough to vote.

I really don't have anything else to add right now :/
I mean I guess Raikaria looks weird but it's not scummy weird.
Also when I woke up my gut was screaming "VOTE HUH WHAT VOTE HUH WHAT" so while I slept 12 hours I clearly was either delirious or noticing something off.

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #265 on: March 16, 2013, 09:52:03 PM »
Also if PX is going to superlurk there's not much point voting him right now due to people having nukes.  We can just take him out that way if it continues.

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #266 on: March 16, 2013, 10:27:19 PM »
Prod lightning strikes Serela.

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NEW YORK (AP) ? World leaders voice concern at recent rumours of a suicide cult called the Do-Nothings. The movement is purported by some to be a counterreaction to the fast pace of modern first-world life.

Day 1, DEFCON 3
Votecount Eldest Son
ActionDan:    Raikaria, NekoNekoRex, Serela (3)
Serela:    rawr (1)
NekoNekoRex:    BT, Dormio (2)
Raikaria:    Shadoweh (1)
Shadoweh:    Zakeri (1)
huhwhat:    ActionDan, PX (2)
rawr:    IHNN, huhwhat  (2)

Not voting: No one

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
You have 2 days and 7 hours left.
« Last Edit: March 16, 2013, 10:38:01 PM by Conqueror »


On tue un homme, on est un assassin. On tue des millions d'hommes, on est un conqu?rant. On les tue tous, on est un dieu.
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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #267 on: March 16, 2013, 10:38:20 PM »
Was goofing off all night, sleeping all day.

I just realized the flaw in the role list plan: the lynchlist is the fucking potential doc. Roleclop, search anyone who claims treason, huh what has a lynchlist, and I only remember him setting one up as scum. Also, I'm fuck all tired, so I'm not even going to read mafia until Saturday when I finally get a damn break.

##Unvote
##Vote huh what
I want people (or at least HW) to give a reaction to this post. It struck a chord with me when I found it and it kind of feels true. It feels like we're all putting votes on the potential docs on D1, which is contradicting the whole point of giving weak players the doc in the first place (so that the doc would be harder to kill). Huhwhat's role assignments are turning into a disaster for town and easy pickings for scum.

Dan still hasn't explained himself, which is annoying. I feel like I'm not going to need his explanation to justify my vote on Huh What anyway. I have my reasons in #223, and the above. Huhwhat needs to get off his "I'm lol obvtown" high horse.
##Unvote
##Vote: Huhwhat
Kilga is this right; like is this person seriously the player, and it's not some alias or something that's designed to be deliberately obfuscating? NekoNekoRex. Who the hell is that :C   ~Poya Aaaa (Serela), Bunny Must Die Mafia

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #268 on: March 16, 2013, 10:46:01 PM »
OKAY so BT is town since scum stole RB to block him every night.
Wait, what? How did your train of thought reach this if you think NNR might be scum?

On the topic of Raikaria I'm left with a sour taste in my mouth.
The whole overly defensive behaviour really strikes me as being very odd. Especially when we get Raikaria's weirdass scenario where everybody will magically jump onto him for no reason whatsover in the first few hours into the game.
I mean I think that it's way too paranoid.
Coupled with NNR, I don't like it.
I also don't like that Raikaria's only reason for voting for Dan over BT was that BT moved his vote.
I mean isn't that basically saying that Raikaria is OMGUS'ing?
And it's really too early to judge given that Dan didn't even post before Raikaria voted him.
I don't get your reasoning here. Why's the Dan Over BT vote problematic? Wouldn't paranoia over being quicklynched by scum imply that he's town?

Dan is dumb and I wish he'd elaborate on his thoughts.
Because, seriously Dan, what you're doing is retarded.

Also PX needs to fucking post.
Also what the fuck Serela was in this game?
The tone here bothers me too. Seems like exaggerated frustration... especially considering I don't know where the frustration would come from at all.

...I'm not reading Dormio as scum this game what madness is this.

Right now I don't like rawr's content at all but at the same time that's his usual thing so I'm not sure if it's coming from scum or rawr.  Doesn't look much like effort to me.
ActionDan is ??? unreadable and from what I've seen he's been solid town from ED1 when town so this kind of bugs me.
I don't see Raikaria coming from scum.  At least not passive scum but scum usually don't overspeculate.  Possibly SK but definitely focused on self-preservation.
NNR is putting in effort and again being wagoned.  I don't see why, I have a very solid town read on him right now.
Oh boy.
-Reads most of the relevant slots as town and parks on the lazy dude. I frankly can't see how he'd read Dormio AND NNR as town this easily with nothing more than "I read them as town".
-Basically left Dan as a backup "this bugs me" vote that would... probably be more compelling to vote than rawr, considering rawr is "just like always, unsure if scum" and Dan is "NOT like always, bugs me". It's very probable that he did this just to avoid the Dan wagon (it was already at 4 votes at the time~).

##Unvote, ##Vote I have no name

Because Huh What is calling NNR out on something he did not do? It doesn't matter who was calling who out, if they're calling them out for false info, I'll call them out on it. Why defend Rawr?
Raikaria townread found.

And for that matter why did I say 'Why defend Rawr'. Oh god I'm derpy with names this morning.
O-Oh. :( Still reads like town as of his posts in this range.

I was about to ask where I was defending Rawr.
By basically telling IHNN he should be voting PX instead, though I don't think it's defending as much as it's, well, pointless. Wasn't IHNN's vote bad enough in general?

That's perfectly good and all if you're staging an attack on HW but it didn't seem that way to me.
Rather it seemed like you were defending NNR rather than attacking HW.
There is an important difference between the two in my opinion.
Really?
Not enough for a solid scumread, but still seems funny to me.
Seems to have been noted to me.

"The evil you know over the evil you don't know".  Information will make itself available with time, so the person that looks bad is marginally worse than the person that has done nothing, as of right now.
So now rawr looks "bad"? Tell me what looks bad to you. You said you found him just as always so the "bad" you refer to is general-bad, not scummy-bad, in which case, yes, it's just like voting someone that hasn't posted yet.

I like both the NNR / rawr wagons but don't have anything more to add to them. Would actually take rawr over NNR since he feels like he's putting in scummy non-effort.
Have you read Disgaea Mafia? I thought he was scum there for behavioral reasons (when he was in fact town) and I'm getting the same vibe from his posts right now.

since people want some clarification.

HW blatantly scumslipped.  When you see it you'll shit bricks.
Show it to us, Einstein.

Okay no, these aren't really waffles but you're not giving any actual opinions here. It's like instead of talking about a list of scumreads you talked about a list of people-that-can-be-voted. Give me the former in your next post.

Dormio, Neko, you are forbidden from talking to each other, SERIOUSLY.
Here's a thing, Shadowmeh. Why are your posts this game pretty much devoid of reads? Even if you have them (this is what this post implies? --nevermind, Dormio asked the same thing and you replied), you're not stating them and update: when you do you don't go in-depth or show any form of scumhunting.

I think the Sesame Street reference sounds like BT actually.
I actually don't know which of the two posts you're talking about here!

And both you and Raikaria shouldn't "wait for Dan", that's just dumb. I'm treating it as a side thing -- if he decides to try to convince the town I'll listen. (I agree with Raikaria here but don't think his unhelpfulness isn't Dan-plausible and another parked vote on a 5-man wagon is zzz.)

Like my vote on IHNN more than the other things pointed out in this mammoth post. Consider his latest post where he says Shadoweh bugs him as well but he'd rather stay on rawr, when Shadoweh was the other rawr voter before she switched. No indication that he thinks this is odd or that he's going to put effort to fix his useless vote that, surprise, isn't going anywhere (at least not until huhwhat shows up). ... huhwhat is the other person he wants to vote. I rest my case.

Other reads are more flexible. I'll see if I can put them in order tomorrow. It's late -- rather post this for reactions right now.

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #269 on: March 16, 2013, 10:49:29 PM »
Holy shit that's long and I see things addressed to me so I'll get to that once I'm done reading.