Weekly Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part 4

[Bang Jan]

Previous thread.

Current question:

Which spell card do you consider to be your personal nemesis in Touhou?

For me it's Scarlet Meister because I haven't captured it yet on lunatic.

[Piranha]

"Impossible Request: Ceiling of Kinkaku-Ji"
5400 shots. Still not cleared, but I've been in the last phase so many times.

[Limian]

I answered Karakasa Surprise Flash in the previous thread, but - surprise! - just after I posted it, I devised a strategy to keep it somewhat sane and manageable with 3 captures and counting.

I suppose Lighty Falling Large Raindrops would be my replacement pick because it and its stupid hitboxes are not fun whatsoever.

Maze of Love is another one I'd like to add, but it's not so much a stupid spellcard as it is a I-suck-at-this-sort-of-movement. I feel this one is not going to last long, though.

I also skipped over the "most changed game" question because I didn't think much about it at the time, but IN and EoSD have certainly risen in my eyes. IN wasn't as good as PCB to me and had a lot of unnecessary stuff in it, and no visible hitbox turned me off for EoSD.
Contrary to that, PCB and especially MoF have fallen the most. The former has lost its magic as my first Touhou game, although borders and stuff are still pretty neat. MoF is still a good game, but it isn't very exciting and pretty much a worse SA with prettier backgrounds. I admittedly haven't played it seriously in quite a long while, though. Once again, however, they are all good games in their own right!

PCB is still better than IN. :V

[Oh]

Hourai Jewel - I can't learn it. I'm stupid
Source of Rains - I can capture it pretty consistently now but I used to clip it all the time

Can't say much about the newer games since I haven't played them enough.

[Critz]

1. Total Purification. Since the way the bullets open is pretty damn fun, I would normally enjoy this card, but it lasts way too long, resulting in me screaming expletives in increasing volume until I inevitably fail to get out of the blast's way in time or have my brain fail me because I did not adapt to the particular part of the pattern in time, usually resulting in me punching the screen / keyboard. Okay, 500th try, let's fucking do this...

2. The unholy combo of Release of Id and Super-ego. Shit's supposed to be simple. After numerous tries I got the rhytm down and do it every time. Every time that the hearts do not decide to cross the exact time I make a dodge and crush me, that is. Which is almost never, especially in Super-ego.  Consistency? What the fuck is that?

3. Mamizou's survival. I can't even be bothered to check the name, but after 300~ tries of Wild Deserted Island and still  being screwed over by the Mamizou's goddamn animal hitboxes and movement, you can easily imagine how eager I am to practice this crap, especially since I cannot get the rhytm down after a few tries. Bombspam / get lucky / die and bb clear... If only the stage had more extends and I wasn't bleeding to death by the point I start the final card...

[Goldom]

I answered Karakasa Surprise Flash in the previous thread, but - surprise! - just after I posted it, I devised a strategy to keep it somewhat sane and manageable with 3 captures and counting

How?

[Yatakarasu]

Malicious Spirit "Spleen Eater": God, does this card hate me. I've gotten into so many un-dodgeable situations with this card. Took me sooooo long to capture it on normal.

Suppression "Super-ego": Backwards moving flower petals noooooooooo. I have a hard enough time dodging bullets that come from the front, let alone the back.

Monster Sign "A Forgotten Umbrella's Night Train": I want to murder this card with a hammer. 'Nuff said.

[Sakurei]

How?

move with the lasers (when they're not unreadable fast), stop inbetween them. that way, you won't have to dodge instantly :V that's how I do it. and I used to have so many problems with it, too. it was an auto bomb before I learned that. I haven't failed it ever since then, either (with like 1 or 2 failures because I am stupid).

http://youtu.be/47M1TUzz8kw?t=2m2s watch for demonstration.

[Limian]

To add to Sakurei's advice, look a fair bit to the left or right (depending on where they're coming from, look about 45? from your position I'd say) and pick a gap that you want to land in (or a laser you want to stay ahead of) and then aim for it. You might have to adjust yourself a few times (i.e. skip to another gap) and you'll surely not land under Kogasa every time, but this turns the card from a bullshit luckfest into something manageable. Basically, read lasers from afar, not just around your position, and as always, practice makes perfect.
Still not the best of ex-midboss cards, but you'll have that (and as I said, better than lightly falling way too large clipdrops for sure, but even that one's not as horrible as I make it out to be).

EDIT: I have half a mind to ask for the best/worst ex-midboss card, or even ex card overall. :V

[Bang Jan]

Time to ask a question!

What is the hardest windows stage 6 attack in the series?

I'm going with Scarlet Meister because like I said I haven't captured it yet. :V

[Validon98]

Scarlet Meister is up there, though I'm also partial to Uncontainable Nuclear Reaction (or Nuclear Fusion, as I usually see it as) and Source of Rains (I can never stream it right because of the stupid arrowheads...). Hourai Elixir too, but that's a Last Spell, so...

[Alicirno]

Any variation of Mind of God "Omoikane's Brain". I just don't get how the thing works.

Also, Life Spring Infinity, Half Past Two, Scarlet Meister, Eternal Meek (H/L). If PoFV Stage 9 counts, the Yama herself.

[Maribel Hearn]

Divine Virtue of Wind God. I should not need to explain why.

[RNG]

Nirvana's Cloudy Way in Purple demands movements far beyond what my tiny brain is capable of.

[Zil]

Scarlet Meister, I think. It's been so long since I played any of them that I've kind of forgotten how they compare with each other, but that would've been my answer a few months ago so I guess it's still my answer now.

[BT]

LFS, but with facing some of the dense red waves.

Life Spring Infinity is some serious bullshit but I don't know if it's the hardest one. (it can't be hard if it's not doable)

[ARF]

Guze flash or hourai jewel ;~;

[Byronyello]

Oh my, I don't know whether Guze Flash or Scarlet Meister is more difficult for me.... I haven't played many of the final bosses on Lunatic so I'm quite limited.

[Seppo Hovi]

4th last spell.

[Sakurei]

scarlet meister or life spring infinity, definitely. both are bullshit to me, both have never been captured (in a run. hush, spell practice is awesome) and I will never perfect any of their stages because these spells exist.

[ふねん1]

PCB Stage 6 spam Scarlet Meister. Part of this is since I don't play EoSD anymore, I haven't exactly practiced it a whole lot, though I have captured it before.

I'm a bit surprised to see Guze Flash pop up as an answer when it's not even Miko's hardest attack, let alone among other Stage 6 attacks.

[redlakitu]

Stupid Apollo 13. I usually die on the very first wave. Other spell cards usually let me survive for a while.

[PMW]

Scarlet Meister, I can't do it at all.

Brilliant Dragon Bullet is also up there, it's basically the only thing preventing me from perfecting lunatic Kaguya. (Besides general RNG bullshittery)

Spoiler:

Though if fangames count then my choice is Mikoto's first nonspell, I literally have no idea how to do it. And even if I do get a strategy the bullets are too fast and dense for me to dodge them.

[Oh]

Maybe Scarlet Meister. But for timeout I'd say Kanako's opener or VoWG. Seriously, the opener messes with my eyes after about 40 seconds or so.

[Kaze_Senshi]

Curse of the heavens: Apollo 13 :V

Stupid Apollo 13. I usually die on the very first wave. Other spell cards usually let me survive for a while.

I am not alone

[Zengeku]

Nominees:

Good Omen: Bad RNG can really make more some unfavorable situations here
Devil's Recitation: Because I'm retarded.
Scarlet Meister: Because I'm retarded. And because I think your chances at capturing it depends on Remilia not moving to the left. Can't say for certain.
Scarlet Gensokyo: Everytime she fires the dense wave of bubbles I'm left at the mercy of luck.
Hourai Jewel: Because of having to memorize it to even stand a chance. I think I've learned a path for this spell like two times in my time as a Touhou player but due to IN not being very regularly played by me I forget it and have to go learn it from scratch. It's probably the only piece of memo i've done in Touhou that just refuse to stick.

And the winner is...

Good Omen for causing the most grief. You have screwed me up many times and I know I haven't seen the worst from you yet!

[Elysia]

I'm a bit surprised to see Guze Flash pop up as an answer when it's not even Miko's hardest attack, let alone among other Stage 6 attacks.

You probably don't have light-sensitive eyes. I am physically incapable of doing Guze Flash barring dumb luck, and if I try, I wind up much less able to do any other attack for a while afterward, and having the hardest attack in the battle right after it does NOT help. I could actually nominate Miko's second card for much the same reason.

But for my answer based in actual difficulty, I echo PMW above, Mikoto's opener is stupidly hard. Even misdirecting it doesn't really help, since it makes it take forever and only makes it slightly easier.

[Wriggle]

Kanako's opener. I just can't fucking read that. :getdown:

[Kaze_Senshi]

Kanako's opener. I just can't fucking read that. :getdown:

?

[I have no name]

I was going to do some huge in-depth analysis, but then I played Hourai Elixir.

...yeah.  That has to win for me, it's the epitome of a card I should be able to capture reasonably consistently but can't, and it's not due to bad RNG with movement (Meister), bad RNG with bullets (Gensoyko) or due to my eyes losing focus (Kanako's opener), or due to ADD blend, which doesn't affect me as much but it does still (Utsuho, Good Omen, Superhuman), or due to unpredictable bullet patterns (LFS).