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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #840 on: May 13, 2013, 11:24:33 PM »
600 hours :V Insane there kitty. But keep it coming. If anyone here deserves that NMNB, it's you. :V

I'll stop saying lewd things about Orin for a month when you do it.

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #841 on: May 14, 2013, 07:54:55 AM »
Died 4 times to Lunatic Satori. Once to first spell, once to second nonspell, once to first Aya spell, once to Great Whirlwind.

Nonspell is just an absurdly narrow spot to dodge which for me is 50/50 each wave. First Aya spell is more of an error on my part but I think I might potentially find that easier than MoF if I get practice in. Great Whirlwind on Lunatic... I don't even know where to begin.

And somehow in this same run I actually get all the way to Utsuho and clear, but during Ten Evil Stars I had no lives, no power. I finally got a grasp on that safe spot but it made me nervous as hell. Consequently due to my bad luck with the 2nd and 4th nonspell I had to do Hell's Tokamak with no power as well. That... took awhile, but I didn't die!

If I didn't die 4-5 times on stage 4, yes 4, not 5, I could've cleared it with nearly 4 lives remaining.

More practice for SA Lunatic!  :derp:

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Get to lunatic stage 6 SA with 5 lives, lose 5 lives to Stage 6.

F.....................

Well on the plus side despite my lack of skill on great whirlwind I did it with 0 power and didn't die. Scary stuff.
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Hard 1cc: 4 (LLS), 6 (EoSD),7 (PCB),8 (IN),9 (PoFV),10 (MoF),11 (SA),12 (UFO),12.8 (GFW)13 (TD), 14 (DDC), 15 (LoLK)
Lunatic 1cc: 8 (IN), 9 (PoFV), 11 (SA), 12.8 (GFW), 14 (DDC)
Extra Clear: 4 (LLS) ,5 (MS) ,6 (EoSD),7 (PCB),8 (IN),9 (PoFV),10 (MoF),11 (SA),12 (UFO),12.8 (GFW),13(TD), 14 (DDC), 15 (LoLK)

Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #842 on: May 14, 2013, 06:14:39 PM »
It sometimes clears the bullets from the screen upon activation. Other times it doesn't. I think. I'm not sure what effects it. What it does do every time is destroy all of the enemies though.
You're right, that's normal.  I haven't noticed any time when hypering didn't clear all the bullets (excluding mines and all ex-attacks except for Kana's).  I was being dumb.


A derp more than a rage, but since I'm already posting here... I wish I would stop running into lone bullets.  It's as if I take pity on them being spawned and fired where there aren't any other bullets, when they have no chance of hitting the player, so every now and then I just glomp one to make it feel better and allow it to fulfill its purpose.  I did that yesterday to a pellet, which killed me on the first life after the first continue against Yumemi, when I was certain I had less than half a minute left before she'd have capitulated.  Nothing else nearby; there wasn't even a cross to have hidden it for a moment.  As it was, I was stunned, but if I hadn't had an earlier stupid death to Ellen and that had been on my first credit, I would have been devastated.

On the upside, theoretically, when the stars align and when I'm not a dumbass, I'm finally at a point where I could get this.  Eventually.  Maybe.

edit: just had what should have been the run.  One death each to Kotohime, Chiyuri, and Yumemi.  Had Yumemi at half a heart for about a minute and a half, then got overwhelmed between hypers.  Nasty combination of everything; took three hits in a row.  So close.  Ugh.
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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #843 on: May 15, 2013, 04:52:27 AM »
You're right, that's normal.  I haven't noticed any time when hypering didn't clear all the bullets
Now that I think of it, I don't recall very many times where it didn't clear the bullets, though I'm pretty sure it can happen. I think it may have something to do with triggering a boss attack or something, since the enemies directly destroyed by the hyper will reflect anything that's right on top of them (and I have no idea if that starts a new combo or continues the current one, now that I think of it). More crap to look into I guess. The advantage of having a million old recordings is that I can analyze them to try to figure out how things work. It's a bit tedious though.

I know what you mean about the lone bullet ramming. It used to happen to me constantly, but I've gotten better at resisting the urge. When it still gets me a lot though is when I'm right against the edge, and a bullet is going to fly offscreen way above me. I think like I have to get above it or something and fly straight up into it. Like my brain's trying to macrododge when there's only one bullet there.

Looking forward to hearing about it when you've finally slain the beast.

edit: podd is suffering
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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #844 on: May 17, 2013, 12:33:07 AM »
EDIT: Just some former depression inspired vomit. Pls carry on with your raging.
« Last Edit: May 17, 2013, 01:15:33 AM by Zengeku »

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #845 on: May 17, 2013, 05:57:03 AM »
I should be happy but I'm not. I want to clear 30 scenes in DS before I move onto UFO, but I'm stuck at 29. Like I have no idea where #30 is going to come from, but not from any of the cards I tried that's for sure.

Also have a new record worst: 170 pictures on 5-3 and counting. :fail: Can't wait until I hit the 500+ range....

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #846 on: May 17, 2013, 06:21:23 AM »
I should be happy but I'm not. I want to clear 30 scenes in DS before I move onto UFO, but I'm stuck at 29. Like I have no idea where #30 is going to come from, but not from any of the cards I tried that's for sure.

Also have a new record worst: 170 pictures on 5-3 and counting. :fail: Can't wait until I hit the 500+ range....

I haven't touched Double Spoiler in awhile but I checked just now to see my pre-clear photo count at 5 photos. I stopped playing once I cleared everything as Hatate. If you need a tip from my perspective I take a picture of one fist then redirect the rest (they hammer down on your current position). Aya's camera recharge is slower but still fast enough to recharge before the next fist barrage.

As for rage of my own I keep making silly mistakes in SA stage 1 Lunatic (why is stage 1 harder than stage 2?) so I increasingly got angry. Noticing this I needed to redirect it on something so I chose an empty soda can on my desk and crushed it.

RIP soda can.
« Last Edit: May 17, 2013, 06:27:34 AM by Mesarthim »

Hard 1cc: 4 (LLS), 6 (EoSD),7 (PCB),8 (IN),9 (PoFV),10 (MoF),11 (SA),12 (UFO),12.8 (GFW)13 (TD), 14 (DDC), 15 (LoLK)
Lunatic 1cc: 8 (IN), 9 (PoFV), 11 (SA), 12.8 (GFW), 14 (DDC)
Extra Clear: 4 (LLS) ,5 (MS) ,6 (EoSD),7 (PCB),8 (IN),9 (PoFV),10 (MoF),11 (SA),12 (UFO),12.8 (GFW),13(TD), 14 (DDC), 15 (LoLK)

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #847 on: May 17, 2013, 06:40:51 AM »
I haven't touched Double Spoiler in awhile but I checked just now to see my pre-clear photo count at 5 photos. I stopped playing once I cleared everything as Hatate. If you need a tip from my perspective I take a picture of one fist then redirect the rest (they hammer down on your current position).

I'm well aware the fists are aimed. I'm just struggling to find a route. It's likely another case of simply over-dodging everything. I'm too frustrated to try it again however.

I also am heavily struggling with Adamant Helix (horrible I know) and Electrified Nyuudou. The rest of the attacks either have low attempts but seem too hard for me right now or have a lot of attempts but are nowhere near cleared (often only 1 photo before death).

Honestly I feel like this is more worthy of derp thread than rage thread it's so embarrassingly bad... :(

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #848 on: May 17, 2013, 07:46:38 AM »
I'm well aware the fists are aimed. I'm just struggling to find a route. It's likely another case of simply over-dodging everything. I'm too frustrated to try it again however.

I also am heavily struggling with Adamant Helix (horrible I know) and Electrified Nyuudou. The rest of the attacks either have low attempts but seem too hard for me right now or have a lot of attempts but are nowhere near cleared (often only 1 photo before death).

Honestly I feel like this is more worthy of derp thread than rage thread it's so embarrassingly bad... :(

Back to Youtube.

I did this on the spot. Aya wouldn't be any different other than a longer recharge between barrages. Ignoring my silly photo miss of a fist, but that's not the point.

If there was any Double spoiler stages (as hatate) that drove me mad it'd have been 9-1 (255 photos), 9-4 (300 photos), 10-2 (157), 10-4 (191, that was irritating as Hatate), 11-2 (151), 12-3 (185), 12-8 (124), and ??-9 (at a suprising 147).
« Last Edit: May 17, 2013, 07:53:28 AM by Mesarthim »

Hard 1cc: 4 (LLS), 6 (EoSD),7 (PCB),8 (IN),9 (PoFV),10 (MoF),11 (SA),12 (UFO),12.8 (GFW)13 (TD), 14 (DDC), 15 (LoLK)
Lunatic 1cc: 8 (IN), 9 (PoFV), 11 (SA), 12.8 (GFW), 14 (DDC)
Extra Clear: 4 (LLS) ,5 (MS) ,6 (EoSD),7 (PCB),8 (IN),9 (PoFV),10 (MoF),11 (SA),12 (UFO),12.8 (GFW),13(TD), 14 (DDC), 15 (LoLK)

Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #849 on: May 19, 2013, 08:11:18 PM »
3:43 in the third round ? In normal mode ?
Oh Eiki, why do you hate me ?  :fail:

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #850 on: May 19, 2013, 08:22:18 PM »
3:43 in the third round ? In normal mode ?
Oh Eiki, why do you hate me ?  :fail:
0_0

Do you have the replay?

Or perhaps a more important question, did you stop shooting for a prolonged period of time?

Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #851 on: May 19, 2013, 08:52:46 PM »
Or perhaps a more important question, did you stop shooting for a prolonged period of time?
Nope, I did everything as usual. Maybe used quite a lot of charge attacks instead of regular shooting, but nothing special.
Replay is here, if you want.

Lily White showed up at least three times (I think it was four, but not sure). Eiki was on her last hit since 2:25 or something.

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #852 on: May 19, 2013, 10:15:38 PM »
Well that's... bizarre. The only odd thing I notice during the match is that the second hit she took didn't bring her to the last hit point. Usually it does, and I'm actually not sure if I've ever seen it fail to do so, not counting unintentional hits.

Really interesting. I wonder how long she would have gone. Maybe 4 minutes, maybe forever? This could have some use for scoring if it could be reproduced. I'll have to fool around with it sometime, but for now I'm baffled.

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #853 on: May 19, 2013, 10:24:03 PM »
Well that's... bizarre. The only odd thing I notice during the match is that the second hit she took didn't bring her to the last hit point. Usually it does, and I'm actually not sure if I've ever seen it fail to do so, not counting unintentional hits.

Really interesting. I wonder how long she would have gone. Maybe 4 minutes, maybe forever? This could have some use for scoring if it could be reproduced. I'll have to fool around with it sometime, but for now I'm baffled.
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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #854 on: May 21, 2013, 07:29:58 PM »
SA Hard no-bombs.



I promise, I won't NB outside of Extra again. Not soon. Unless someday I have the skill to do it on Lunatic.

Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #855 on: May 21, 2013, 07:56:08 PM »
Ouch. :/

That's sad. Well, don't lose your courage. Try it again and see if you can't avoid fucking up Stage 5 this bad next time. I'm sure you can pull that off.

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #856 on: May 22, 2013, 01:05:14 AM »
20:51   dxk   you know you usually dodge pwg without shooting?
20:51   dxk   well, I nmnb'd til pwg, cap'd it
20:51   dxk   and accidentally pressed x
20:51   dxk   fuck
20:51   dxk   meant to press z
20:53   dxk   my keyboard is over sensitive :<

Sucks, could have been 2/1-miss no bomb or no miss no bomb if I played 5/6 well.

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #857 on: May 22, 2013, 05:51:31 AM »
Words cannot describe how much I hate the 10-12 continue system, especially for unlocking stages.

Oh you want to practice a stage with full lives? Beat it with only 3 first! Brilliant!

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #858 on: May 23, 2013, 09:17:17 AM »


I really hate those. Hard just made it worse. Default lives.
« Last Edit: May 23, 2013, 09:19:50 AM by Mesarthim »

Hard 1cc: 4 (LLS), 6 (EoSD),7 (PCB),8 (IN),9 (PoFV),10 (MoF),11 (SA),12 (UFO),12.8 (GFW)13 (TD), 14 (DDC), 15 (LoLK)
Lunatic 1cc: 8 (IN), 9 (PoFV), 11 (SA), 12.8 (GFW), 14 (DDC)
Extra Clear: 4 (LLS) ,5 (MS) ,6 (EoSD),7 (PCB),8 (IN),9 (PoFV),10 (MoF),11 (SA),12 (UFO),12.8 (GFW),13(TD), 14 (DDC), 15 (LoLK)

Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #859 on: May 23, 2013, 10:09:18 PM »
Oh, son of a submariner...
So, I was playing MB Extra, doing relatively well, feeling pretty stoked since I usually suck at it, when my computer decides to have a battery issue and shut down on me. Right after I had captured Gathering Void "White" !!
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Although I only captured it by using a laptop and tilting the screen way back to mess with the contrast. :V


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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #861 on: May 24, 2013, 03:22:36 AM »
The more you know.

Hard 1cc: 4 (LLS), 6 (EoSD),7 (PCB),8 (IN),9 (PoFV),10 (MoF),11 (SA),12 (UFO),12.8 (GFW)13 (TD), 14 (DDC), 15 (LoLK)
Lunatic 1cc: 8 (IN), 9 (PoFV), 11 (SA), 12.8 (GFW), 14 (DDC)
Extra Clear: 4 (LLS) ,5 (MS) ,6 (EoSD),7 (PCB),8 (IN),9 (PoFV),10 (MoF),11 (SA),12 (UFO),12.8 (GFW),13(TD), 14 (DDC), 15 (LoLK)

Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #862 on: May 24, 2013, 09:19:28 PM »
EoSD is going to give me an aneurysm. If and when I do make it to Stage 4 without dying, I just derp and lose 2-3 lives on without bombing or getting to Patchouli. Whenever I practice the stage I do flawlessly. Then I get there in a real run and it falls apart... I guess I should be patient, like I'll just get better as time goes or something? Those are my Normal-mode newbie blues, anyways. But I got into this series cause I thought Flandre was cute, so I just have to make it to her...

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #863 on: May 25, 2013, 12:09:35 AM »
Almost perfected Stage 3 on Hard for Mountain of Faith, but Nitori wasn't having that shit and her last spell card killed me at the same time as I cleared but I didn't get the bonus.

Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #864 on: May 25, 2013, 01:01:05 AM »
Stage 5 game over in Imperishable Night Lunatic No-bombs.

I don't recall when I last failed this hard. IN is so difficult when you are out of practice. Died lots of times to memo related things and only to few dodging patterns. It's not my skills that are off, it's just that I don't play it enough I think. Or maybe that's just something I'm telling myself to somehow making 4 deaths on Reisen and other similar things easier to deal with :3

In any case. Wow, this was bad. Luckily IRC romance can always help brighten up a bad mood!

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #865 on: May 25, 2013, 06:31:52 AM »
Threw myself at MoF Lunatic again... but this time I made it all the way to Kanako's second spellcard before game over'ing!

There's hope yet as I mess up or do not know how to do a loooot of those spellcards. I'm getting better at eyeballing Hina's second spellcard but I generally seem to get trapped during the latter part of the 2nd wave, dense stuff. Nitori is just  :derp: . First spellcard I just can't wrap my head around as I seemingly get trapped with no space or something so I'm not even bothering to pay attention to the shot bullets as I just bomb. Third spellcard is one I rarely face as I rarely do MoF Lunatic but the concept "seems" easy enough if I can deal with those aimed bullets.

Then comes Aya and her  :V . Every time I try the first spellcard I keep doing "I can do it... I can do it..." then screw up and die right before I try to bomb. 2nd nonspell is damned fast. So that's the famous peerless wind god spellcard that's been spoken of and wow was that ever dense. Hard usually annoys me enough. Last spellcard I've been 50/50, just a matter of reflex and paying attention.

AND THEN comes Sanae. I'd be surprised if I can even do one thing right on lunatic Sanae.

Kanako is the least of my problems if I have this much to improve upon.

Hard 1cc: 4 (LLS), 6 (EoSD),7 (PCB),8 (IN),9 (PoFV),10 (MoF),11 (SA),12 (UFO),12.8 (GFW)13 (TD), 14 (DDC), 15 (LoLK)
Lunatic 1cc: 8 (IN), 9 (PoFV), 11 (SA), 12.8 (GFW), 14 (DDC)
Extra Clear: 4 (LLS) ,5 (MS) ,6 (EoSD),7 (PCB),8 (IN),9 (PoFV),10 (MoF),11 (SA),12 (UFO),12.8 (GFW),13(TD), 14 (DDC), 15 (LoLK)

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #866 on: May 25, 2013, 07:53:47 PM »
Is it me or does Kanako's 2nd spell's bullets have big hitboxes?

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #867 on: May 27, 2013, 01:13:47 AM »
Fuck you Cirno (DDC). Am I the only one who can't read that card? ASDFDSFDSF

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #868 on: May 27, 2013, 01:14:45 AM »
DDC Stage 3 spellcards

Fucking DDC Stage 3 spellcards

:C I think ZUN switched the Extra boss with the Stage 3 boss

Fuck you Cirno (DDC). Am I the only one who can't read that card? ASDFDSFDSF

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #869 on: May 27, 2013, 01:29:24 AM »
think ZUN switched the Extra boss with the Stage 3 boss

I think I want to know what extra bosses you are fighting.

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