Author Topic: Adorable Game of Mafia (Everyone wins!)  (Read 100434 times)

Re: Adorable Game of Mafia (Day 2 start. Hooray!)
« Reply #420 on: August 06, 2012, 04:17:01 AM »
I am pretty sure you know exactly what I'm referring to and implying there, Mr. Swing Vote.
If you're referring to something from a past game then I don't get it. Pretty sure I haven't made any swing votes this game either.

Anyway I'm off my train, will re-read later, but trusting of Omba's claim so far because no counterclaims.
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Re: Adorable Game of Mafia (Day 2 start. Hooray!)
« Reply #421 on: August 06, 2012, 04:42:23 AM »
PX is the easy answer for a D2 lynch, but... well...

The more I look at BT the more irritated I am with his IHNN case. 
Also, although he says here and here that he doesn't like the Omba case and 'takes issue with the wagon', he made no effort to defend a townread nearing a lynch. 
He also didn't pass any judgement on the people on the Omba wagon, except for a passive gutjerk on Kilga, even to the point of disagreeing with Shadoweh's point on me.
While I'm okay with his switch to Serela yesterday, all the above makes me think that he's scum trying to distance himself from the Omba wagon and stuff, with a constant vote on IHNN. 

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##Vote: BT

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Re: Adorable Game of Mafia (Day 2 start. Hooray!)
« Reply #422 on: August 06, 2012, 04:56:53 AM »
If you're referring to something from a past game then I don't get it. Pretty sure I haven't made any swing votes this game either.
Noooo, I'm refering to your behaviour at the end of Day 1. It's attention grabbing in the same vein as Omba but it's still weird and swingy.


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Re: Adorable Game of Mafia (Day 2 start. Hooray!)
« Reply #423 on: August 06, 2012, 10:15:58 AM »
##Unvote

Will review PX and BT when I get home.
[22:40:12] <Drake> "guys i donwloaded esod but its not workan"
[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

Edible

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Re: Adorable Game of Mafia (Day 1 start. FROLIC)
« Reply #424 on: August 06, 2012, 01:02:23 PM »
Vote Count: Scarlet Devil Mansion In The Early Afternoon edition

Affinity (2): Shadoweh, PX
BT (1): Affinity
Omba (1): NekoNekoRex
PX (1): IHNN
IHNN (1): BT
Kilgamayan (1): Omba

Not voting: Kilgamayan, huh what


You have ~10 hours remaining.  With 10 in play, it takes 6 votes to launch.
« Last Edit: August 06, 2012, 09:09:01 PM by Edible »

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Re: Adorable Game of Mafia (Day 2 start. Hooray!)
« Reply #425 on: August 06, 2012, 01:15:51 PM »
I might have to stay at school the next 8 hours or so. Dunno if I can get back home before the deadline.

I guess I'll just ##Vote PX for now.
[08:23 pm]  Aristocrat -- Raitaki on a scale of 1 to 10 your current mafia game play is annoying as fuck
[08:25 pm]  Aristocrat -- Raitaki, if both of us ended up as mafia
[08:25 pm]  Aristocrat -- I would be so angry
[08:25 pm]  Aristocrat -- that I will snap and give into my rage

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Re: Adorable Game of Mafia (Day 2 start. Hooray!)
« Reply #426 on: August 06, 2012, 04:54:33 PM »
Avoiding a prod
A post will come in due time
Ridiculously

busy

Edible

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Re: Adorable Game of Mafia (Day 2 start. Hooray!)
« Reply #427 on: August 06, 2012, 06:09:23 PM »
~5 hours remain.

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Re: Adorable Game of Mafia (Day 2 start. Hooray!)
« Reply #428 on: August 06, 2012, 06:14:57 PM »
Where does the time go O.O

I want to see either a BT or a PX lynch.  Reasons have been given in older posts.  I'm willing to vote either, but right now I'd prefer a PX lynch.

BT, I'm not getting lynched today.  You should switch to PX since I know you're not voting yourself.
Neko: switch off Omba.  No one has counterclaimed and it's been this long.  Omba is not being lynched today.
Omba: Kilga is not being lynched today.  Decide between BT and PX.
Shadoweh, PX: Affinity is probably not being lynched today.  I don't think Affinity is the scum right now.
Kilga, HW: decide between PX/BT.  We need a lynch.

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Re: Adorable Game of Mafia (Day 2 start. Hooray!)
« Reply #429 on: August 06, 2012, 07:05:21 PM »
Oh Christ, I don't think I'm going to be back home for deadline. This is what I get for assuming we'd have as much time to work with the actually important days as we did on Day 1.

I'll have to do a pseudo-reread in the car on the way home, I guess.
[22:40:12] <Drake> "guys i donwloaded esod but its not workan"
[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

Re: Adorable Game of Mafia (Day 2 start. Hooray!)
« Reply #430 on: August 06, 2012, 07:37:15 PM »
Still don't support BT lynch. Will read and compare PX and Affinity.

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Re: Adorable Game of Mafia (Day 2 start. Hooray!)
« Reply #431 on: August 06, 2012, 08:04:12 PM »
As it so happens I've had the time to read the thread once or twice. No joke. Have things to say on points made against me but that'll have to wait for a later date.

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Fine, I'll concede that, after some more thought, bussing the rolecop instead of pushing for Omba's lynch during the ~5th page isn't the most logical scum thing out there. ... <_<

If it were up to me I'd vote Kilga right now. I stand behind "Omba's connection wagon had scum on it" and what I said earlier. Townclears here are easier to fathom than in IHNN's case, but that's because he's admittedly playing fine, so much that this vote would be in no small part based on gut.

Guess it's PX and Affinity. Former is nullurk and latter is guttown, but never read any of them in-depth. Fun. Preference at the moment is PX lynch, unsurprisingly. Let's see if I can whip anything up in less than an available one hour.

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Re: Adorable Game of Mafia (Day 2 start. Hooray!)
« Reply #432 on: August 06, 2012, 08:07:39 PM »
Since Omba is unlikely to be scum, my read on BT stays on null for now. Currently PX is the only remaining suspect, so vote stays there until I see something that catches my attention.

-cut-
[08:23 pm]  Aristocrat -- Raitaki on a scale of 1 to 10 your current mafia game play is annoying as fuck
[08:25 pm]  Aristocrat -- Raitaki, if both of us ended up as mafia
[08:25 pm]  Aristocrat -- I would be so angry
[08:25 pm]  Aristocrat -- that I will snap and give into my rage

Edible

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Re: Adorable Game of Mafia (Day 2 start. Hooray!)
« Reply #433 on: August 06, 2012, 08:10:21 PM »
~3 hours remain.

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Re: Adorable Game of Mafia (Day 2 start. Hooray!)
« Reply #434 on: August 06, 2012, 08:12:11 PM »
Yeah, yeah, fine.

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Ugh, so I have to choose between three wagons all with nonexistent posters. Lovely.

PX's reason for voting me is blegh, could see it as scum trying to make an easy counterwagon to attempt to ward off the wagon on Serela gaining steam, easily bought by people who rely less on :postfeelings: and more on :tangiblethings: ie Huhwhat, Pesco.

Affinity is eh for her support for my wagon based mostly on "offended by my hypocrisy" but considering she sat on Omba the whole time.

Can't support a BT lynch, his vote on Serela was vital to getting her lynched, can't see it being a bus when getting me lynched could have been decidedly easier.

I'll ##Vote: PX for now but I'm still not too sure yet.

Somehow this turned into a self-centered post. Huh.
Kilga is this right; like is this person seriously the player, and it's not some alias or something that's designed to be deliberately obfuscating? NekoNekoRex. Who the hell is that :C   ~Poya Aaaa (Serela), Bunny Must Die Mafia

Re: Adorable Game of Mafia (Day 2 start. Hooray!)
« Reply #435 on: August 06, 2012, 08:29:24 PM »
PX #188: You said you would make another post. Where was this other post?
Why were you willing to throw IHNN to the side?
You still need to explain your townread of Serela. "I thought Neko was the scum" doesn't cut it since you said you could provide a defense of him. Since we're dealing with a scumflip it's important to know your thought process.

There are blips in his thought process here and there but my main two issues with PX are (a) his refusal to explain his Serela defense and (b) he completely disappeared after promising another post when his vote was on the counterwagon to scum. However, I don't actually think his initial Neko vote looks like an attempt to start a counterwagon, since there was no indication anybody but me would switch.

For now, I will ##Vote: Affinity (L-3). Earlier suspicions on him aren't quelled, interactions with Serela read a lot like weak distancing / prodding of scumbuddy (lots of questioning but Affinity never outright declares Serela scummy until it's clear he can't ignore the wagon) and the recent BT vote looks like an attempt to gain hipster cred by swaying away from the obvious targets. It doesn't make much sense from a town PoV - Affinity had called BT the "best non-Serela voter D1", and had actual content related to Serela's scumflip in his PX vote, only now he's completely ignoring BT's position on the Serela wagon. Why was the PX vote worth dropping for a case that ignores flips entirely? We're not on D1 anymore, this reads as disconnect to me.

I read Kilga too
Small nitpicks here and there, but
Prefer Affinity

Biggest issue is that this post let him later hop on any rising wagon, but he then put himself in a position where he couldn't vote Serela over Rex even after claim, so it's hard to hold against him. Nitpick 2: #182 bugs me because it's a misrep and the Invasion callback is an appeal to... something, when the comparision didn't really apply. I feel like Omba's D1 wasn't actually awful enough to deserve the amount of tunneling Kilga had on him, and that the antagonisms points were exaggerated (see what I said about Invasion reference). Nitpick 3: Excess town reads don't fully make sense, PX's effort is hard to gauge due to his posting style but how are Affinity and I putting in more effort than BT?

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Re: Adorable Game of Mafia (Day 2 start. Hooray!)
« Reply #436 on: August 06, 2012, 08:38:35 PM »
... Yeah. Not the kind of prosperous reading I thought it would be, but whatever. PX's D1 felt fine, but D2 is made up of nil but the half-arsed Affinity case and... what Affinity said about me distancing myself from the Omba wagon, only more extreme. (not that I agree with the accusation, hey) For instance, when I did it, it was because I thought the wagon was scum-motivated. PX has literally no reason for it.

Affinity's latest case on me is slightly detached from everything, what with "PX is easy but" and a psyduck.jpg worthy point about not defending my Omba townread when I clearly did while holding back, but yeah, aside from personal oddities he's better than PX.

##Vote PX

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Re: Adorable Game of Mafia (Day 2 start. Hooray!)
« Reply #437 on: August 06, 2012, 08:58:35 PM »
Town has reason to distance from the Omba wagon if they don't want to support it. Also half-arsed is a buzzword in this case since there's nothing really half-arsed about PX's Affinity case from what I can tell. Don't actually see why PX > Affinity for you.

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Re: Adorable Game of Mafia (Day 2 start. Hooray!)
« Reply #438 on: August 06, 2012, 08:59:26 PM »
Still prefer Kilga lynch, but since that's not happening... please take another look at him tomorrow. K?

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##Vote Affinity
(L-2)

Will be back before deadline.

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Re: Adorable Game of Mafia (Day 2 start. Hooray!)
« Reply #439 on: August 06, 2012, 09:05:36 PM »
Rereading PX and Affinity now. Will address things HW mentioned about me tomorrow: no time today.
[22:40:12] <Drake> "guys i donwloaded esod but its not workan"
[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

Re: Adorable Game of Mafia (Day 2 start. Hooray!)
« Reply #440 on: August 06, 2012, 09:06:44 PM »
Worth noting that PX is at L-1 by my count.


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Re: Adorable Game of Mafia (Day 1 start. FROLIC)
« Reply #442 on: August 06, 2012, 09:10:09 PM »
Vote Count: Emergency Kitty edition

Affinity (4): Shadoweh, PX, huh what, Omba
PX (4): IHNN, NNR, BT, Raitaki
BT (1): Affinity

Not voting: Kilgamayan

You have ~2 hours remaining.  With 10 in play, it takes 6 votes to launch.

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Re: Adorable Game of Mafia (Day 2 start. Hooray!)
« Reply #443 on: August 06, 2012, 09:18:01 PM »
Too many blanket unvotes, not enough actually voting.  I'm honestly not sure how I feel about the overwhelming support to lynch PX. It doesn't seem like anyone has actually made a case for it beyond 'it's PX and he lurks'. Even if he is scum I think people need to put more omph into it. (I also realize this is hypocritical since I haven't made a case on Affinity but etc)

I don't -think- Kilga is playing like scum at the moment, he seems to have a love for text walls of pretty as scum, but I do find some of his actions questionable. I'm not sure why he keeps trying to turn disagreements with me into dismissive acts of emotion, and when it's 2 for 2 so far I start to wonder if it's a scum dismissive tactic. Conq proved not too long ago that AtE attacks work just as well as a huge paragraph of :words:

Actually talking about Affinity: I hate being unsure, it seriously affects my case skills.  I'm.. also not sure if he has any chance of being here to claim, which is worrying. I have at least found something I can present as a curiousity.
General consensus is that Rai was bad at the start and improved towards the end.  In my cases against BT and Omba I have made clear my stances against IHNN and Rai anyway, as town -weighted sides of the WIFOM.

Serela being on IHNN as the lynch-to-go feels scum-town.  Guess IHNN can be cleared to some degree.  And certainly, what huhwhat says fits their meta, and I'm in agreement with the myriad reasons available to lynch Omba.  Omba even flirts with him D1, and I never liked his Rai push after some time.

Let me 'reread'.
It's pretty clear here that he seems to agree with the Omba lynch before rereading, so he goes to reread.
PX: Wasn't Omba a main lynch, and didn't I question him thoroughly and stuff?  What makes you think this and this isn't scumhunting, or the very least, 'not showing interest in Serela' until end of D1?  The verbosity? 

Rarrrgh!

##Vote: PX
So he's voting for PX because.. PX voted him for not pushing Omba hard enough? How exactly did this make PX scum? This is visible OMGuS in the works and in retrospect it's hilarious that a wagon on PX got attention like this.
@PX: Didn't I say many many times that I found Omba's dragging out his Rai case too far to the point of voteparking?  Which is enough of a scummy thing?
Isn't questioning the validity and sincerity of cases the first step to scumhunting?  There are many examples of this anywhere, anyway, and I don't think you're thinking this through properly.
He's still voting PX as an indignant affront for suggesting that he's not scumhunting. The problem is it doesn't answer why he's not voting for Omba in the first place! He even says later that he's giving the newbies passes because of the way people (Omba) are pushing him. His vote off of PX makes very little sense either. Did PX improve? Does he not like being on wagons with other people? Earlier he was all over Omba, but he doesn't miss a beat in attacking BT for defending the Omba wagon and not pushing hard enough for a counterwagon.

I think my main problem is I still can't tell if this is Affinity being scummy or being adorable. I can't understand what he could be thinking, and in review his votes make no sense. I'm still willing to lynch.


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Re: Adorable Game of Mafia (Day 2 start. Hooray!)
« Reply #444 on: August 06, 2012, 09:20:55 PM »
...
...

<_<

The term half-arsed isn't one you can measure and define, but I probably did misuse it. I'm sure my reaction to PX's case was to say that, but now that I actually take a good look at it, it's more fair than I gave it credit for.

As for defending the wagon, there's usually motivation behind such an act. I can't find his. Saying he simply wanted to avoid a mislynch isn't wrong per-se, but in that case he didn't do anything to contribute to the discussion aside from trying to halt the wagon. I guess there's this too.
Omba's later posts do indeed look like he's Serela's buddy and trying to get him to look better/draw out the cop before he tried to bus him, but the one part that doesn't make sense to me is why Serela would self hammer instead of letting Omba hammer?
The question is kind of out of place. Also an example of bringing up a point against the wagon without any followup.

Although... <_< Judging from a few lines above, I need pillow. Going to try reading one last time to see if I missed anything else.

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oh boy humongous cut

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Re: Adorable Game of Mafia (Day 2 start. Hooray!)
« Reply #445 on: August 06, 2012, 09:22:36 PM »
ohshit my haiku uhm

Oversleeping is
Really nice but you should not
sleep through deadline votes


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Re: Adorable Game of Mafia (Day 2 start. Hooray!)
« Reply #446 on: August 06, 2012, 09:25:23 PM »
If that one was directed at me, I nearly called it a day too. It's past midnight and I wake up in less than 7 hours. ^_^

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Re: Adorable Game of Mafia (Day 2 start. Hooray!)
« Reply #447 on: August 06, 2012, 09:26:26 PM »
Whyyyy am I doing this to myself

have a haiku

I'm reading the thread
it's pretty damn boring hey
but I'm still awake

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Re: Adorable Game of Mafia (Day 2 start. Hooray!)
« Reply #448 on: August 06, 2012, 09:27:16 PM »
It's about Affinity actually! So it relates to the subject and stuff. It's totally hip and cool and doesn't show off my inability to make poems at all.


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Re: Adorable Game of Mafia (Day 2 start. Hooray!)
« Reply #449 on: August 06, 2012, 09:27:30 PM »
Oh god fuck waking up early for long road trips. Koromo is here, and still on the van >_>
Reeeaaaaaadddddd

Cut and OH GOD IT'S DEADLINE