Touhou Accomplishments Thread XVII: Chase Your Desires

[chum]

Dang, my first try with Lyrica got so close to the 1cc, she didn't seem so bad to me. I liked playing as her too so that will be my next goal I think. Don't like playing as Sakuya or Youmu at all, unfortunately

[BT]

On Lunatic?

Also, define 'so close'. The game can stall you at the final round for as long as it wants. :V

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

Mystia also gets a relatively easy stage 7 and stage 8.

[Zengeku]

And finally I get my Fairy Wars Lunatic clear of C-1. This route was quite a lot harder than I had initially anticipated but 5 credits later it's finally done. The route had quickly become annoying since all of my attempts would make it halfway through the three fairies fight and all include a boatload of stupefyingly dumb mistakes.

This run also included a lot of mistakes but it also demonstrated some pretty cool resource management and a nice capture of a hard as hell non-spell in the three fairies fight so I'm overall happy with it. Finished with four remaining lives. I'm thinking about uploading a video of it since my channel doesn't have a Lunatic clear of Fairy Wars so it might as well get the hardest route.

[chum]

On Lunatic?

Also, define 'so close'. The game can stall you at the final round for as long as it wants. :V

Yes

By 'so close' I mean Shiki has been on her last hit for a long while. Also my Shikieiki fights go past 2:30. It's very hard to know just when she will take that final blow.

[chum]

And it's done  Took 4 attempts and I felt that I was very close on two of the failed ones. http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=23849

Check out the Shikieiki fights, I like my dodges. Almost broke the 3-minute mark round 2 and 3.

[Seppo Hovi]

Oh hey, nice clears, guys.

From my experience Mystia's speed can get you killed unless you're used to the game. In terms of basic management, maybe Sakuya or Lyrica. I never liked Cirno either, but that might be just me.

Spoiler:

And Youmu is wonderful!

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Personal stuff, keeping to the PCB. ReimuA is a lovely shot. One of the things I will certainly return, I just like the mode and the shot too much. I think Normalmode might be this game's best part, but then again I don't have much experience with the other parts (actually, I don't have that much experience on normal, either). Must keep heading onwards, enough time was wasted looking backwards.

[Sakurei]

ok, ok. after reading what zengeku told me about suwa wars, I decided to give it a try and everything.

good thing: it worked.

bad thing: it wasn't a perfect extra stage :v

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=23851

I perfected the suwako fight on the first try after knowing how to deal with suwa wars. the bad thing is I died against some small fairies in the stage :v twice. I'll admit I didn't pay the attention I probably should have paid, but that's beside the point. posting here because a perfect bossfight overrules th hilarity that is called failure :v in this case at least. but yeah, this is a big step towards the perfect run for MoF extra I'd say. god, I am still laughing. But yeah, I wasn't exactly sure where to post this.

[I have no name]

good thing: it worked.

bad thing: it wasn't a perfect extra stage :v

and that is exactly why I reset to every stage death when I went for it.

[Oh]

ok, ok. after reading what zengeku told me about suwa wars, I decided to give it a try and everything.

good thing: it worked.

bad thing: it wasn't a perfect extra stage :v

Nice, Suwa War is goddamn annoying until you figure out a path, then it becomes trivial.
Yeah I perfected the boss before the stage too, then it took 50+ tries because I didn't know Suwa War or Red Frog.
Good luck :)

[Zengeku]

bad thing: it wasn't a perfect extra stage :v

Nice. That means you're pretty much done. Perfecting Suwako is definitely the hardest part about this since the stage is a joke. Good luck when going for it.

[BT]

Slightly on-topic: pacifying the stage portion has taught me that Kanako's nonspell (her first pattern) would have been amazingly fun if it were more dense. Bullets with tiny hitboxes coming at you from three directions at random formations, the potential is there.

[Nindella]

All this Touhou 11 lunatic stage 5 perfect practice has helped alot with getting past it with minimal deaths, I guess...

Just tried a no-bomb of the game on lunatic, and got all the way to Orin's final non before gaming over (That non, I swear to all that is great, why am I so inconsistent on it...) (I had a perfect mid-boss though, hurray!).  I had quite a few silly deaths so I reckon a no-bomb clear of the game is actually pretty possible thanks to that.  I guess that's an achievement of a sort... don't really know where to post this weird moment.   :wat:

Still, not really focusing on a no-bomb yet, can't for the life of me do DBDB or Insect's Nest without at least 1 death to each every time. 

[Zengeku]

Slightly on-topic: pacifying the stage portion has taught me that Kanako's nonspell (her first pattern) would have been amazingly fun if it were more dense. Bullets with tiny hitboxes coming at you from three directions at random formations, the potential is there.

I just played a run of Extra and you're right. It's actually a pretty fun attack. Timed it out without trouble since it isn't hard but a bit more bullets and a bit more life and it could become a pretty nice attack. Finished off that run with an almost perfect Suwako too. Died on Red Frog (fuck it) but otherwise perfect.

And a delicious dodge on Suwa War. I moved down a bit too slow and was starting to get boxed in by the tiny bullets but i made it through the gap and survived 

[K.B.]

PoFV-talk makes me happy.

The PoFV extra-life bonus is essentially a non-factor if you're playing for score.  Between the points you get within a round and whatever queer tally points you get at the end, you won't have lost much, if anything, if you've been able to hold the guage or whatever at bonus for a respectable length of time (I'd guess 30-40 seconds spread out over a 2.5/3-minute match, though you obviously get more points later in the match when there're more bullets to cancel).

I found Komachi and Sakuya to be the hardest.  I suppose that Mystia (like Komachi and Lyrica) can be hard since the only hits you'll get on the computer will be from the internal timer, but her bonus thingy of having spirits fly toward her focus-mabob means that it'll be a lot easier to clear dot-spam.  But I also like fast characters so ymmv.  edit: you can get enough extends to make all three of these easier than Sakuya. /edit

Spoiler:

And Youmu is wonderful!

The moest wonderful~

Youmu becomes much easier once you learn the shoot-cut rhythm (and the use of invincibility frames) for hectic times and once you learn to time lvl2 charging for when there's a large enough fairy-chain explosion, which will allow you to keep your points from dropping to zero.  edit: she's still tough, though; probably second-hardest behind Sakuya. /edit

Cirno gets much easier once you learn to the rhythm of freezing and lvl2-ing (I found that playing for score helped this) and once you get the hang of moving up to activate spirits (after a lvl2, when it's safe to move up) for bullet cancelling higher on the screen and then moving back down to safer areas.  Also, the latter bit is a tactic which will serve you well with every other character that has an area scope (as opposed to an infinite vertical scope).

And by the way, to be honest, I think PoFV is harder than UFO, at least with the crummy characters.

what.

...you crazy.

PoFV

WR

aahahahahahahahaha

[Zil]

what.

...you crazy.

That may be! However, I think UFO isn't much different from the other games in that once you've memorized everything and figured out how to fully abuse your resources, it becomes something you can essentially sleepwalk through. Things being basically the same every time and all that. PoFV can't really be trivialized, at least not with the weaker shot types. I would usually end up on my last life against Eiki, and there a single fuck up can take away the whole run, which is a trait UFO lacks.

Of course, it's been a while since I played either of them, and I never did learn to use the level 1 invincibility frames.

[Karisa]

Decided to try MoF Normal no-bombs with ReimuB. Result: 3DNB the entire game (one death to Aya, and two instances of randomly running into a bullet on later stages). I think I could actually perfect this game on Normal, though the time that would take might be better spent going for a higher score...

[Zengeku]

Made a vid of my Fairy Wars C-1 run.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfgLyuLCCIw

If anyone has time to kill or are struggling with the route, they might wanna check it out since they might learn a thing or two.

[Bang Jan]

Just captured Magic Butterfly, all of Byakuren's lunatic cards captured! :dragonforce:

Once I capture The 2nd nonspell, I will be able to perfect Byakuren! (but it will be really hard to do)

Also, I can capture LFS consistently now!

[Sakurei]

FUCK YEAH :V

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=23864 (with my luck, it desynched)

it's the promised NDNB MoF extra run. score technique-wise it's nothing special :v I let tons of point items drop. mostly because I didn't care enough to risk the run for it. It's still my new high score because I never had a no death run before.
I still hate the red frog, though. I was somehow able to manage it a couple times, but it ended a couple runs, too. it's a total train wreck here as well. you can see me flailing around while trying to around the exploding stuff. I went through the lines a few times, I believe.

but yeah, I managed, and it's true. very satisfying. I know suwako's the easiest extra stage, but it's a start. I am planning to perfect the remaining extras, too. I have no idea how long it will take, though. Q.E.D is painful, I never managed imperishable shooting and I am generally bad against Nue and mamizou. (the latter has this wonderful thing called spell practice though :v)
notable spots that killed me numerous times: the kedama right before kanako.  red frog and suwa wars :v
surprisingly, froggy braves for the element killed me only once. sadly, the only spellcards that never killed me were croaking frog, mishguji and seven stones. (though, croaking frog RNG hated me most of the time. this time, too. you'll see that I have to go rather far to the right/left to find a gap I am comfortable with, resulting is close dodged before they exploded. mishaguji was a wreck, because I was shaking like crazy. you'll notice the bullets just barely not killing me numerous times :v luck those hitboxes are tiny)

the funny thing during those attempts is that my iron ring captures got crazier and crazier and the attempt number rose. until I died for the first time :v they normalized themsleves somehow. anyway, this is an achievement I am proud of. I knew I could do it and man, I finally did. I fought suwako around 20 or so. I think. I didn't count, after all. it's difficult to tell which extra I will clear next, but assume it's either Flandre or Mokou :v

[Chuckolator]

Awesome job, perfects are always great accomplishments, and extras are always cool. Do you plan to perfect more?

[Oh]

Congrats on the perfect.
Flandre is way easier than Mokou, so you might want to go for that first.
QED is a joke compared to Mokou's last non

[I have no name]

Perfect lunatic Yoshika, by donut's definition of perfect.
I didn't die, bomb or trance, and timed out both spells where she heals herself (of course I tried to capture the first but failed and had to make some crazy dodges)  The third spell...no.  I had enough nerves trying to just dodge it.

[Sakurei]

Seiga, yes. I plan for all extras. I see no reason as to why stop after Suwako. (unless she was my favorite ex-boss, which she isn't :v Best ex fight is still Flandre :v). I will also see if I can perfect a couple lunatic stages (like SA stage 4,5. MoF stage 4 and 6 etc etc :v). I am not entirely sure if I am up to the challenge for those, but one has to start somewhere to get better. There is no use repeating the same stuff all over again with the same bomb placements, because one is unsure of the capture :v trying to perfect things is maybe the best way to improve on these things.

BUT BUT...MOKOU HAS SPELL PRACTICE :V! Yeah, I was thinking Flan might be easier. Aside from Q.E.D I have no real troublespots coming close a a perfect within 3 seconds left of the spell, whereas I do clip on mokou a lot more. definitely, imperishable shooting, the last non and maybe the other last 3 spells will give me some trouble. Luckily, the stage itself is so easy, it's difficult to actually die outside of mokou in it.

[Chuckolator]

For what it's worth, my first (and so far only) perfect extra was Nue, and I know I could also perfect Ran if I put the effort in. You should take a look at those two if you're unsure of who to do next.

[Sakurei]

> Nue

I am horrible at this fight, to be honest. I never evn came close to capture anything of her last 3 spells, and my record on undefined darkness is...unimpressive to say the least. it's probably a matter of practice, but I am not sure if I could do Nue right now. especially since UFO perfects suauyll exlcude summoning UFOs leaving a lot less lives than I usually have :V
but Ran does sound delicious. yah, I have cleared and capture everything she has. just not all in the same run. more or less a matter f putting it together. but we'll see what comes next :v there is no rush.

then again > taking adive of what to perfect next from someone who's a lot better than me

WELL, THAT'LL ESCALATE QUICKLY :V

[chum]

1cc'd PoFV as Marisa, Cirno and Reisen,  got them all first try on my stream 

As Marisa, Shikieiki finally lost at 03:16, 3rd round. Why the hell did it have to take so long!? I can't believe I survived.

As Reisen, I got 160 mil, which is like twice as much as I usually get. Huh.

[I have no name]

then again > taking adive of what to perfect next from someone who's a lot better than me

WELL, THAT'LL ESCALATE QUICKLY :V

I'd say you're about even, but Seiga is a lot more...obsessed with it.  You could do what I do and give a few bosses a few try each day and see how that goes-eventually you'll get one pseudo-randomly.  I haven't ground away at a perfect since Suwako nearly a year ago.

Seconding the notion to go for Ran-got her first try getting past Charming Siege.

[Chuckolator]

then again > taking adive of what to perfect next from someone who's a lot better than me

I wouldn't say that for sure, I haven't perfected Suwako yet in any case. I'd do this, to be honest:

give a few bosses a few try each day and see how that goes-eventually you'll get one pseudo-randomly

That's what I do, at least. There's no point in doing it if you aren't enjoying it, and that seems to be the best way to make sure you're having fun.

[crystalgreatsword]

Done! Finally done!
SA Normal 1cc CLEAR!
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All in all, it didn't give me as much trouble as UFO. Utsuho wasn't as bad as Byakuren. Even though I could bombspam Byakuren like a madman, Utsuho didn't have that many difficult patterns. Just her cards were difficult for me, while Byakuren's non spells AND cards were pretty hard.

And with that, my Windows 1ccs are completes!!!