Town must lynch the scum to death. (Chelsea and the 7Devils Mafia Game Over)

[Sasword]

Also
##Vote: Pyoa AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
in case that didn't work in quote magic. I also can't spell quotes. Because I am AMAZING.

[OOO]

Baron also seems overly reactionary, much OMGUS

should I claim?

19/100

[Skull]

in short pyoa aaaa has no opinion on who's scum.

wtf this is probably the worst not me over me thing i have ever seen.

my opinion on choker joker will rest on his vote, though i don't agree with what he has been saying.

@nuko: yes.

[Sasword]

oh yeah were doin it man were making it hapen

Alright.  Nintendo, we're gonna do this

Fuck yeah

Eye's 200 seems more like a not me over me vote and thus the point against Dechronos comes off as lackluster.
Since his 204 implies he actually is voting Dechronos for being scum I give him a meh feel about it since Lord's case on him wasn't very solid in the first place.

Not only was it a note me over me vote I literally say in that post you quoted that If Dechronos's claim was good enough I would prefer to die over him. I had the same amount of doubt any person has over the alignment of someone that isn't confirmed to them has. So to your idea that I was implying voting the rabbit for being actual scum.



I don't like it.

Eye's last second wagon to a lurker which would amount to no reads whatsofuckingever was cute at first but since he was so serious about it and pushing it like a mofo when all his consent given was that people wouldn't be opposed to poking off a lurker was bad.  I find it bad it's almost like tunnelvision on one lurker. 
From a personal stance that knows I am town it bothers me to lynch someone without a claim over one you talked about all day and got opinions from.  Yeah.

I'm pretty sure it would amount to reads on Eyes, El Bomba, and everyone else who either voted for or announce willingness to vote for you. Lynching for information is bad. I argue that Not lynching because Not information is equally bad. Lynch the people you think are scum.

[Sasword]

I want to blow apart your rebuttal to my night talk but I have no idea what you are talking about here. 'Next to nothing' sounds like 'Okay some of it was relevant but if I admit that I might have to admit I don't think Eyes is scum OH NOES'

Sorry if my Night 1 VCA with one flip is not conclusive. What the fuck did you expect? I would personally be more suspicous if I had used it to map out our next few lynches.

Also I never make up my mind on what I'm going to attack someone about. I hit on whatever angle strikes me as useful in that moment.

I am getting distracted from my urge to pound you in the face by nodding along with your thoughts about Endymion. Tell me oh cracked of the funny since you think my VCA is weak, what would you do better about it? Who do you think the scums are?

[Kick Hopper]

TO THOSE THAT HAVEN'T READ THE WALLS READ THIS FOR WHY PYOA IS SCUM

Honestly I don't even give a damn if you ignore every other one of my posts as long as Pyoa gets lynched.
He's not even replying to the issues have against him attempting to explain his ~*logic*~

[OOO]

Claim:
Town Pussyfoot
Vanilla

Ironic.

24/100

[Kilgamayan]

Going to work edition! Again!

Selena Milfall (0): El Bobomboi
Pyoa Aaaa (3): Selena Milfall, Septentrion Pleiades, El Bobomboi, Eyes of 13 Sages
Septentrion Pleiades (1): Nuko Do Maron, Baron Vladmu, Pope Cuckoobeater
Choker Joker (0): Pyoa Aaaa, Selena Milfall
Nuko do Maron (4): Endymion, Eyes of 13 Sages, Lord Pumpkinquiche, El Bobomboi, Baron Vladmu, Pyoa Aaaa
Baron Vladmu (2): El Bobomboi, Selena Milfall, Nuko Do Maron

Not voting: Choker Joker

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. You have a little bit more than 11.5 hours to vote.

[Kick Hopper]

Almost missed the train over that last post and I'm barely having the time to skim through these latest posts, still, Pyoa's last post:

"Quiche is being deliberately anti-town by not reading look at him not at me"
"I haven't bothered to scumhunt while reading anybody so PoE and I AGREE WITH THE GENERAL OPINION"
"Also I know I'm going to be the counterwagon for Nuko instead of Pleiades and disregard my weak voting reasons to vote not-me-over-me, but despite knowing I might not be here at deadline I'm not going to claim because doing so as town is hard and I definitely don't need to come up with a useful fakeclaim".

I have a few more minutes until work partner comes back from lunch so clarifying some not-reading I see lying around.
@Lord Pumpkinqueer #345. Missed that part at deadline where I noted that while my issue with that kinda RVS post still remained I thought that determining his alignment over it was "fucking stupid".

@Joker #349. I was absolutely free during D1 whereas now I can barely post a few times a day now, I think it's pretty obvious that I wanted to get stuff done D1 to compensate for not being available later. This would be confirmed with V/LA today I had talked about with Kilgamayan earlier if it weren't because I want to be around at deadline. I frown hard at your comment on the town reads thing- Generalized town reads are one thing and the more personal ones are a completely different thing. The issue people usually give with giving out town reads is that the generalized town read is going to get it during the night, but while that one is almost always obvious, the rest are not. Usefulness in commenting them is obvious right now in Pyoa's voting for an earlier town read just because he hasn't put any effort into drawing conclusions from anybody else. Issues with town reads were also what made Uesugi's scumminess evident and I don't see why everybody attacking me is latching to these little things instead of producing a case on me.

Okay time up see you guys in a few hours.

[Kabuto]

Totally sheeping this one
##unvote
##vote:pyoa

[Den-O]

What the shit.

I think Aaaa is dumbtown. I don't see him as scum getting asked by no less than two people to give an ordered list of reads and then COMPLETELY IGNORE THEM ALL. Fuckit he could have cut out half the waffleshit in that post and people wouldn't be voting him for essentially being dumb. Not going to lynch it over Mr. lurkeraderp not even using the 60 words he says he has and choosing to lurk instead.

I don't know how to respond to Choker Joker's post because it's so full of misrep that I don't even. Half of it is based on my fucking reaction to Baron's RVS post. There's no way everyone pushing that as scummy is mafia so I'm going to say something this in the postgame but wow are you kidding me.
"Poor reasons" for an RVS vote, saying I was bitching about post style when I was attacking the logic he was using and the way he attacked me for "misrepping him" but I was legit confused (albeit I did so wrongly, and how the hell does deliberate obfuscation match with what I was talking about?..."one must apply oneself to read it" and my case just boils down to playstyle, really?), calling my case on Nuko du Maron OMGUS (soft defense?), and my vote on Dechronos had nothing to do with meta if you actually read it - the meta bit actually worked against my case and the only reason it's there is because I'm a rambler who doesn't know when to shut up; and if you actually read that post I CLEARLY say I want you or Nuko lynched, with Dechronos as a third, and nowhere do I say I want Pope lynched.

His 180 would mean a lot more if he didn't earlier pull that shit on the Baron.

...

Not going to respond to the case on Eyes and the rest but it should be blatantly obvious that this guy is just throwing mud at whatever sticks.

I am getting distracted from my urge to pound you in the face by nodding along with your thoughts about Endymion.

I'm sincerely disappointed. How the fuck can you agree with what he's saying? What are you even talking about?

This post is rambly but I just woke up and now I have to get to work and I won't be back before deadline. No doubt Choker Joker will use this as a point to attack me. I only joined to fill up the signups, so he can bite me. We're lynching him tomorrow by the way.

[Punch Hopper]

Okay I have a few minutes before I leave for school, and it occured to me that I should really claim

I'm a Town Tank Of All Trades. I have a one-shot watcher, tracker, doc, and roleblock. (These are all separate one-shots, I asked and I'm allowed to use them on myself. Although there's not much of a point to any of them on myself in this case anymore. :I I had thought self-doc could be handy but yeah not happening. )

N1 I watched Bobomoi because she was all townie and :wordswordswords: and I thought she'd get nk'd for sure. No one targetted her :fail:

Anyway I'm already running late to class (again) so bye! Hopefully I can get back an hour or two before deadline, but I'm not sure if I'll be able to manage it.

[Skull]

flavor would be nice on both parties.  don't tell me the tank has four pieces of ammo.

[Kick Hopper]

Horrible post written tidbits at a time as I attempt to follow my lessons at the same time.

I was slowly reading Endymion's post in a small window during my last class while trying to keep track of the class and at some point I was tempted to hit the desk and yell "Then why the fuck didn't he claim in his last post?". But well, he's done that now, at least this time it's not a vig claim.

Quiche you were questioning me a second ago over the Dechronos thing, why sheep?

Nothing to say about the actual claims yet I need to focus and I'm in no condition to right now.
Lynching between somebody that might not be here and somebody who can't speak properly makes me feel like I'm bullying children.

[Kabuto]

I was?

[Kick Hopper]

I...
Really?
You're not being terrible on purpose just to find out how terrible you can be without getting lynched, I hope.

Your #345 and your issue with my case on Dechronos covering his RVS vote. Surely if the reasons to wagon Dechronos irked you, you must've thought that some came from scum, and switching from that to sheeping my case on Pyoa is weird and all that.

[Kilgamayan]

Actually AT work edition!

Selena Milfall (0): El Bobomboi
Pyoa Aaaa (4): Selena Milfall, Septentrion Pleiades, El Bobomboi, Eyes of 13 Sages, Lord Pumpkin Quiche
Septentrion Pleiades (1): Nuko Do Maron, Baron Vladmu, Pope Cuckoobeater
Choker Joker (0): Pyoa Aaaa, Selena Milfall
Nuko do Maron (3): Endymion, Eyes of 13 Sages, Lord Pumpkinquiche, El Bobomboi, Baron Vladmu, Pyoa Aaaa
Baron Vladmu (2): El Bobomboi, Selena Milfall, Nuko Do Maron

Not voting: Choker Joker

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. You have a little bit more than 6 hours to vote.

[Decade]

I will save my vote when I can reach a computer in a few hours. I also will save my response to the Eye Sages until then but I can respond to Endymions... Retort.

It's just a whole lot of ATE and not the town kind.
Yes, woe is you, the whole world is out to get you. It actually had reason to since you ragehol at anything not in your interest. To be honest the rage you just responded with seems over the top and to me, forged.
I also appreciate the potshots at myself.

calling my case on Nuko du Maron OMGUS (soft defense?)

You responded to the cat similarly to how you are responding to me now. You give us vitriol for daring to fos which is unneeded.
Though you tell me. Is it a soft defense or not?  If you think so clearly state that you hold it against me or not. Don't just leave it hanging there as if everyone should also bite and hold it against me.

If I'm not suppose to use your ramblings to make a case, what should I use? 
You don't acknowledge your own scuminess and still make my point valid about your ferocity at anyone who dare FOS you.

[Sasword]

okay okay don't panic it's just a claim it could be scum aaaaaaaaaa
I have literally no time to respond and I won't be back before deadline. This time there's no getting around it. I will say that I don't believe Tank of All Trades because my role has nothing to do with Eyes. But Decronos flipped Time Keeper so aaaaaaaaaa

[Kilgamayan]

No change in the vote count.

About 4 hours to go!

EDIT: If Pope Cuckoobeater has not posted again by the end of the day and is still alive on Day 3, he will begin Day 3 on a prod.

[Ouja]

Yo Kilga, I did say something about being away for most of the day and coming back a few hours before deadline. And here I am! So it's cool.

Oh my God why are you people not lynching the lurkscum?

I mean seriously, most people are either clearing him for "he made cases" (which is stupid because what's ever stopping scum from making good town cases? also my case agrees that the cases themselves are valid but the intent behind them is far from it. it's like people are clearing him for :words:) or acting like he doesn't exist. If Milfall had a point on Choker that sounded something like this, amplify it a few times and you get what I feel about Pleiades right now.

*SIGH*

Endy, I read your wallfight with Baron during D1 and confirmed it with my initial impression - as a townvstown slapfight.

Maron IS trying. I don't understand you people claiming that he isn't because if you just take a moment to THINK about it all he CAN do with his cases when he has SIXTY WORDS is make them super concise. Wasting words for defense is a thing but I don't think it's because he wants to 'waste his words' at all because he HAS been scumhunting to an extent despite this.

Also the point Bobomoi made about Kilga not being a bastard mod is irrelevant and also can be seen the other way around; Maron is the one who voiced the possibility of PR faking during D1, so it would be stupid of him to do it one day afterwards purposefully. This isn't a clear (and can easily be a gambit) but all I'm saying is that it's not scummy. Honestly a random PR falling coincidentially on Maron is a lot more likely than all these theories anyway.

Also, the 63 words thing. Sounds like an "oops" thing that Kilga would easily forgive. No need to jump to "holy shit this is fake!!! I knew it" conclusions.

So, no, not liking the lynch.

On the other hand, I feel a great urge to sheep to Bobomoi's Pyoa wall now that I've read it, read the thread, and read it again. Yeah, I know, it's great isn't it?

##Unvote
##Vote Pyoa Aaaa

He IS acting strange. He WAS lurking D1. In fact, knowing who he is, he's usually a bit... you know... ~around~ during D1, and this is even an anon game.

Besides, 1-shot-of-*bucketofroles* reeks of fakeclaim.

[Ouja]

L-1.

Jesus christ, I actually forgot to look at the votecount to see if I was hammering or not. Good times. ;-;

[Decade]

My response earlier was a bit rushed none the less.
Endymion, You've only seen one post of analysis from me and you're sold on me being scum without a doubt now?

---

The next time I hear that someone's justification for reads in anon fucking mafia is because of meta of the player behind the anon account, I'm gonna choke a bitch.


I enjoy Septentrion Pleiades' 278 and find it a nice rebuke to all the questions directed at her.

Selena's 279 is spittakingly horrible.
Why would you want to lynch someone just for info.
Why is it bad that there was a defense made towards my player slot when it's clear that it was busy.  I don't understand how someone who didn't talk is the center of everything weird.  Trying to justify these very weak interactions is scum.

Endymion's case on the Nuko cat is actually pretty terrible. 283
He fails to take into account at all that the Eyes of Sages were the ones pushing that I get wagoned the shit out of and lynched for being a lurker and that was the Cat's response.
The rest of his case is passable but the point aforementioned makes his case look better by not bringing all of the facts into light.

I actually can't even follow everyone elses vote on the cat.
Eye Sages vote was a prod more or less and
Lord Pumpkinquiche has a decent case and

Bobomoi (297) looks like she's attacking Nuko for out of game reasons and drawing a conclusion from lurking at it's an iffy case.  I understand lurkers are just bad in general but I don't why this isn't also apply to Pyoa AAAAA's active lurking.
but the case on Baron is really reaching and doesn't feel like in game fosing.

And then the convenient post restriction appears.
I'm still willing to put the cat as slight town due to actually liking his day 1 and his wagon is some of the shadiest shit.
Eyes unvote in 212 when it takes off is also wrong.
I don't agree with the Cat's Baron vote but I also feel that the cases on him aren't completely legit.

In comparison to Pyoa AAAA I would hammer Pyoa for the reasons laid out in Bobomoi's 343
bar the meta reading because I told you how I feel about that but ok.

Oh look someone's trying to cut and make me hammer.

I didn't get around to responding to eyes because I have to go and should be back in 2 hours to hammer and acknowledge his claims at me.

[Kick Hopper]

Back home now and I finally have time to look over things decently.

I kinda dislike how Baron's read on Nuko radically changed from "town" to "scum lying over PR", he even brought up the point before I did so I'm not saying he just went "I AGREE WITH GENERAL OPINION", but rather that he seemed not to dislike the Nuko wagon and attempted to keep it alive.
Information wise I feel like I could get a better read on Baron and Quiche if Nuko were lynched, but the cat's claim didn't surprise me and I buy it, while Pyoa's...
Am I the only one thinking that that's way too damn OP? I mean, roleblock/doc/tracker would be sort of 'kay I guess, but watcher is a really powerful role if I'm not mistaken.


I should be focusing on Pyoa/Nuko, but for whatever reason I'm now staring back at Joker's #349 and what the hell is a blanket attack?

Regarding that post, by the way, do you want to lynch me because I had free time, like playing mafia and made it take longer for you to read through walls? Because that's what it sounds like. I already replied to your comment on my #124 earlier which is the only actual thing you seem to hold against me and you make no mention of this as anything coming in your next post.

I also dislike how you hold Eyes' wanting to switch lynchee at the last minute against him, it was clear that he didn't want to lynch Dechronos due to the crumb-ish thing he posted and obviously didn't want to die himself, so pushing a third lynch is the logical conclusion. There's also the thing where despite lurking like fuck there were lots of mentions towards him and I get why Selena was calling him a "good lynch in terms of information" earlier today, so your point regarding the scum-driven third lynch to avoid the flip being informative doesn't really hold true either.

Do you have anything to say about D2 other than the replies to your post?


Cut by yeah pretty much what Pope's saying regarding Baron and the over-60-words thing. It'd make sense that the malfunction happened, Kilga saw the kitty posting a little too much and warned it just in case it happened to have missed the PM or if it hadn't gone through for whatever reason.
To be honest I'd be lynching Nuko if Pyoa weren't there being scum right in my face, but the difference between the two is such that I just can't see Pyoa being town, while I kinda fear Nuko might be, so I'd much rather see the piece of metal rust and die.

Cut by Joker I need dinner I'll read that in a minute.

[Kick Hopper]

So you dislike me but are willing sheep to my case on Pyoa?

Man, it feels good to be convincing, have my cases sheeped to and all, but I can't be that awesome that people like my cases to the point of letting them decide the day's lynch while thinking I might be scum :V

Reviewing Pleiades' Pyoa vote, there doesn't seem to be much to it other than "Pot calling the kettle black" and I really hope she can get her stuff sorted out and pop up soon to justify her vote further.

[Ouja]

Um, no, I don't dislike you, I just dislike your opinion on that matter. You're kinda town.

[Kaku Seiga]

Why would I need any further justification for my vote when it was clear from my vote post that Pyoa Aaaa was obviously scum for making a scummy play. How is that in any way pot calling the kettle black? When I reaffirmed that I wasn't moving my vote, he still hadn't proved himself any less scummy. As an update, his claim is full of roles with effects that can't be verified. It makes no change to my opinion.

[Kabuto]

##unvote
##vote: giant cat

Rather take pyoas claim over the cats. Using as little words as possible even though the day is ending and your claim that could be the only redeeming thing about you.

[Kick Hopper]

@Pope
That was rather aimed at Joker, should've been obvious from the way I said I'd get to his post after I got dinner but I guess I need to make things absolutely clear because stuff like this keeps happening. Fucking stairs.

@Septentrion.
Pot calling the kettle black meaning the only other point aside from "parroting Alice" I saw was how you pointed out that all that he pointed out as scummy in Dechronos could also be applied to himself.

Cut by Quiche seriously what the hell is going on in your head I don't even.
Are you willing to lynch Nuko over Pyoa just because the cat ain't got no power role?

[Kabuto]

No you

Go read my post again