Author Topic: So You Want To Be The Townest Mafia (Thread 1) (Read 70835 times)

ActionDan · « **Reply #480 on:** April 04, 2012, 03:56:27 PM »

I'm here. I'm also busy working on a P-set due at 4pm EST today. This looks to correspond to when deadline hits.

BT is town. Holy shit.

LLD you have absolutely no reason for insinuating that BT is scum over thinking that he's simply a concerned townie. Do you really think scum BT would work this hard to defend Scum!me without pushing Dorian wagon?

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Scum are trying desperately to throw their votes around and confuse the town to ensure a random lynch (which by the by is both silly and scum sided).

A random lynch is the WORST POSSIBLE OUTCOME FOR THE TOWN.

This is the type of fearmongering that Shadoweh/UK Hydra employed D1 of graveyard mafia. If you really wanted me to die you'd reinterate reasons why I'm a better lynch over the others instead of saying "stop voting that guy"

Bob's post is non-commital. He didn't leave a hint about voting either me or Dorian if he had to. And it's distressing that he said he's up for a LLD lynch without a vote.

Capt.h I will strangle you.

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- Dan is scum because first he opens with a fairly awful start of day 1, and then he spends the latter part of the day voting Dormio because Dormio voted him for being awful 3 hours into day 1, while trying to justify how Dormio should have known his awfulness was townie awfulness.

I hate you.

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His cases have been purely defensive, and he barely ever says anything about people that aren't voting him.

I'll grant you there is truth in this. some truth. I've mentioned people other than those on my wagon about as much as you have. I'm not sure why you are giving me flak over this when I've spent as much time defending myself as others have spent their time attacking me.

I would still be shocked if Dorian made up that claim by himself as an ITP of any kind. If Dorian scum I'm sure that his buddies made it up, but that exact claim if fake would have had to be inspired by someone experienced and who most probably lurks MS. The only people who actually do that is LLD, Conq, K4U, and me to my knowledge. I'm unconvinced a buddy would limit themselves like that.

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##Vote LLD

I'm gonna try for this. Omba and Chaore and serela need to update their opinions.

Kitten4u · « **Reply #481 on:** April 04, 2012, 04:02:40 PM »

Dan, proof of role is not proof of alignment. Even though "proof" isn't the right term here I think the idea behind the statement applies here. I think it's entirely possible he could be an anti-cult vig, it just doesn't matter if he is or not.

Kitten4u · « **Reply #482 on:** April 04, 2012, 04:04:24 PM »

Like I said earlier, I don't see how it's impossible for there to be a Mafia Anti-Cult Vigilante. I have to go to class. I'll be back before deadline.

Dr Rawr · « **Reply #483 on:** April 04, 2012, 04:05:21 PM »

BTW dan could you claim? being one of the main wagons and 4hours left....

Kitten4u · « **Reply #484 on:** April 04, 2012, 04:11:31 PM »

One more note before class. I just hope traffic and parking's good so I'm not late. :V

What I'm saying is ignore the claim itself. It's null. Look at the circumstances surrounding the claim and everything else he's done all day. I think I've explained why it's bad a few times, but I'd be happy to explain it again once class is done.

Okay, leaving for real this time.

Serela · « **Reply #485 on:** April 04, 2012, 04:13:11 PM »

Oh shit deadline is like 4 hours

uh

hi!

Rereading and stuff D:

Serela · « **Reply #486 on:** April 04, 2012, 04:19:22 PM »

Auugghhhahhh as soon as the bomb didn't blow up this turned into normal boring suck D1, except A DAY LONGER THEN NORMAL AAAAAA no wonder I started lurking after that

well plus I got sick but

I should probably get back to actually reading come to think of it

Lexicat · « **Reply #487 on:** April 04, 2012, 04:21:53 PM »

K4U, I'll assume the third party of which you speak is Dorian.

Dorian is an anti-cult vig as he claims. The mafia want him alive simply because the cult is a bigger threat to the mafia than it is to the town.

One town member gets recruited does not cripple town.

One scum member gets recruited, cripples scum immensely, since that scum can tell everyone who all the other ones are.

So Dan!scum has a lot of motivation to let Dorian the Cult Vig live to see another day. Infact, I don't see ANY REASON for anyone who believes Dorian's claim to be voting Dorian right now.

Lexicat · « **Reply #488 on:** April 04, 2012, 04:23:38 PM »

Oh look, I answered Dan's question with that post too.

ActionDan · « **Reply #489 on:** April 04, 2012, 04:29:34 PM »

Quote from: Dr Rawr on April 04, 2012, 04:05:21 PM

BTW dan could you claim? being one of the main wagons and 4hours left....

I'd rather not if I don't have to. I can tell you my claim is pretty townie (no self-govern powers this time). If more people vote me, I'll claim.

@K4u I understand even though that the mechanics seem farfetched. Usually scum NK whatever they want. There'd have to be a rule saying that cult are immune to NKs unless targeted by the 'anit-cult' vig, and for balance reasons there couldnt be a normal NK with a cult-vig shot too.

I will vote Dorian if I have to.

The people voting Dorian think he's scum, not an ITP LLD.

Lexicat · « **Reply #490 on:** April 04, 2012, 04:32:25 PM »

Dan, how can you determine and speak for all the voters on the Dorian wagon?

Further, Serial Killers are a flavor of scum, so I guess you're kinda right even though your overall is wrong.

You should probably claim, Dan.

ActionDan · « **Reply #491 on:** April 04, 2012, 04:39:36 PM »

Again, if I recieve more votes, I'll claim.

I think Kitten thinks Dorian is scum, even though earlier she said her role heavily implied SK or survivor.

I was under the impression Affinity and Conq think he's scum also. I forgot what IHNN thinks besides 'claim was bad'. They can correct me.

I have no name · « **Reply #492 on:** April 04, 2012, 04:45:06 PM »

Quote from: ActionDan on April 04, 2012, 04:39:36 PM

I forgot what IHNN thinks besides 'claim was bad'.

No matter how I look at the reasoning behind the claim, it seemed designed for chaos/stalling, chaos hurts town, stagnation hurts town through lack of information, therefore I think Dorian is not town. So yes, my reasoning does mostly come down to the claim, but IMO negative attention* is scummier than no attention, at least D1.

Dorian, can you tell us why you decided to claim with only 2 votes?

*Not the right word to use here, but I can't think of a better one

ActionDan · « **Reply #493 on:** April 04, 2012, 04:50:25 PM »

Quote from: Dr Rawr on April 04, 2012, 04:05:21 PM

BTW dan could you claim? being one of the main wagons and 4hours left....

BTW, why are you asking me to claim when you said earlier you were ok with an LLD lynch. What are you thinking right now?

Dr Rawr · « **Reply #494 on:** April 04, 2012, 04:57:53 PM »

when did i say i was ok with lld lynch?

Lexicat · « **Reply #495 on:** April 04, 2012, 04:59:10 PM »

Quote from: Dr Rawr on April 04, 2012, 04:57:53 PM

when did i say i was ok with lld lynch?

I want this question answered, Dan.

ActionDan · « **Reply #496 on:** April 04, 2012, 05:00:00 PM »

Quote from: Dr Rawr on April 04, 2012, 03:07:50 AM

I have no problem with lynching bob

Oh im retarded.

Dr Rawr · « **Reply #497 on:** April 04, 2012, 05:00:18 PM »

ActionDan · « **Reply #498 on:** April 04, 2012, 05:01:13 PM »

mafoa and problem sets. they dont go together.

Serela · « **Reply #499 on:** April 04, 2012, 05:07:07 PM »

I think Dr.Rawr looks pretty funky but I'm just going to chalk that up to Rawr being Rawr right now.

Affinity is still totes scummy mcscumpants because
A.Votes me over putting words into my mouth and twisting what I did say into making it contract itself and voting me over the contradiction that doesn't exist
B.His response (where he keeps voting me), I can barely make heads or tails of in a manner that actually makes good logic, even after he explained the LAL point.
C. ...I don't like his later posts, but I don't know how to explain it :/ Bleh.
D.Oh wait Affinity is voting Dorian? Yeah, that's p.bad. His vote also turns the counts to 4 v 4; it's the one that actually starts making Dorian a serious lynch competitor with Dan, and this is so bad, I don't even.

Dormio and Dan are weird. I'm... not sure how I feel about them anymore past "weird" though. While I don't explicitly object to the Dan wagon... I'm not sure. Bahh.

Bob is apparently being Bob and I have no idea what I'm supposed to make of him, at all. I don't know what to think of IHNN either, except some of his logic (like his reasonings for voting Dorian) are... I can't agree with them in the slightest and I think they're just ridiculous. I'd rather lynch him over Dan, I think, but. Well, maybe not. Well... I don't know!

Nevermind, LLD/IHNN spat feels sort of town/town.

Capt.h IMO is town, umm all I can say about BT is he doesn't feel like how he usually feels but I don't know past that

This post is around 500 words so I'm cutting off the latter half for after someone else posts.

I have no name · « **Reply #500 on:** April 04, 2012, 05:09:22 PM »

I have no name · « **Reply #501 on:** April 04, 2012, 05:10:55 PM »

Also Shadoweh sorry we found a breaking strategy in your wordcount limit :V

BT · « **Reply #502 on:** April 04, 2012, 05:11:07 PM »

Rawr. Deadline in 3. Who will it be?

This is silly. Dorian is playing horribly and pretty much against his own WC (his jump on Dan's wagon screams 'but I want to stay aliiiiiive') but I still find it implausible that he is not town. Mostly due to the claim but also due to how he's playing like very very silly town instead of scum.

It's gotten to the point that I'm starting to consider a random lynch over this trainwreck.

Dr Rawr · « **Reply #503 on:** April 04, 2012, 05:11:11 PM »

##Unvote
##Vote: Dan

Dr Rawr · « **Reply #504 on:** April 04, 2012, 05:11:28 PM »

cut

and dan because of claim

Lexicat · « **Reply #505 on:** April 04, 2012, 05:13:07 PM »

Quote from: BT on April 04, 2012, 05:11:07 PM

Rawr. Deadline in 3. Who will it be?

This is silly. Dorian is playing horribly and pretty much against his own WC (his jump on Dan's wagon screams 'but I want to stay aliiiiiive') but I still find it implausible that he is not town. Mostly due to the claim but also due to how he's playing like very very silly town instead of scum.

It's gotten to the point that I'm starting to consider a random lynch over this trainwreck.

Remember when I said your vote on me was designed to get the town to result in a random lynch?

And remember when I said Random Lynch was the absolute WORST outcome for town?

Yeah, you need to die so badly.

BT · « **Reply #506 on:** April 04, 2012, 05:15:08 PM »

I do remember! And no, I'm not actually pushing for a random lynch, only pointing out how I feel like this lynch has a 0/15 chance of catching scum. Rather than, say, a 3/15 or 4/15 chance. Seriously. -_-

Pesco · « **Reply #507 on:** April 04, 2012, 05:16:18 PM »

I'm Doing Y'alls a Favour With A Fifteenth Votecount!

Affinity (1): Serela
Action Dan (5): Lady Lambdadelta, Dormio, capt.h, Dorian G., Dr. Rawr
I have no name (0):
BT (2): Chaore, Omba
Dorian G. (4): Conqueror, I have no name, Kitten4u, Affinity
Chaore: (0):
Mr. Bob (0):
Dormio (0):
capt.h (0) :
Kitten4u (0):
Dr. Rawr (0):
Omba (0):
Serela (0):
Conqueror (0):
Lady Lambdadelta (2): BT, Action Dan

Not voting: Mr. Bob

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.
There are 3 hours remaining. Or you can hammer faster!
REMEMBER, NO MAJORITY = RANDOM LYNCH
Day End Countdown

Lexicat · « **Reply #508 on:** April 04, 2012, 05:18:05 PM »

Quote from: BT on April 04, 2012, 05:15:08 PM

I do remember! And no, I'm not actually pushing for a random lynch, only pointing out how I feel like this lynch has a 0/15 chance of catching scum. Rather than, say, a 3/15 or 4/15 chance. Seriously. -_-

So you're going to completely ignore the fact that a Random Lynch provides potentially NO reads, and is thus almost assuredly inferior?

Omba · « **Reply #509 on:** April 04, 2012, 05:18:22 PM »

I would still very much prefer a BT lynch over a Dan lynch.
That said, I would much rather lynch Dan than Dorian and very much rather lynch someone we decide on than to rely on Tewi.

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BT: There's an 0% chance of hitting scum if a) you're about to get lynched and your role pm says you're town b) the mod has confirmed the player as being town. That's it.