So You Want To Be The Townest Mafia (Thread 1)

[ActionDan]

So you seem to make no difference between your two scum reads. Which means your vote could have gone either way. Instead of placing two votes on LLD, you go on to be the lone vote on Dormio. Which is avoiding attention. Which is scummy.

Omba, you act as if I ever had the pleasure of playing with LLD. I don't know her meta, therefore I could never have taken advantage of it in a scummy way. (or whatever else you're trying to imply with that)

Bob, who is the scummiest at the moment? Doesn't have to the a vote.

I feel stronger about Dormio, hence the vote.

[Dr Rawr]

Even with the miller claim?

[capt. h]

WHY THE HECK DID YOU WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE BOMB WENT OFF TO POST THAT LLD READ YOU PROMISED. (At Dan)

[Shadoweh]

WITH THE PROMISE OF BEING UNITED WITH HIS WAIFU AFFINITY'S DETERMINATION WAS CLEAR.



Box Timer: 0:00:00
THE COUNTER HIT ZERO. AFFINITY WAS REWARDED FOR HIS DETERMINATION WITH DELICIOUS CAKE. SADLY THE CAKE DID NOT CONTAIN MINORIKO. THERE WAS HOWEVER, A NOTE ON THE BOTTOM!

##Fakevig is an awesome command. What Day 1 is complete without some idiot pretending to kill someone? Today it seems the idiot is Shadoweh! Usa~

THE DAY CONTINUES WITHOUT ANY VISIBLE EFFECTS.




The Eighth Votecount Is Now Accepting Hatemail

Affinity (1): Serela
capt.h (0) :
Action Dan (3): Lady Lambdadelta, Dormio, capt.h
I have no name (1): Dr. Rawr
Mr. Bob (1): I have no name
Conqueror (1):  Affinity
BT (2): Chaore, Omba
Dorian G. (2): Kitten4u, Conqueror
Lady Lambdadelta (1): BT
Dormio (1): Action Dan
Kitten4u (0):
Dr. Rawr (0):
Omba (0):
Chaore: (0):
Serela (0): 

Not voting: Mr. Bob, Dorian G.

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[Mr_Bob]

Going by gut and not fact checking: Omba or LLD

Something about their playstyles (going by meta, dismissive, etc.) raises my hackles.

Cut by cake.

[Kitten4u]

Real stuff coming once I can word and finish filling out this paperwork.

[ActionDan]

Even with the miller claim?

Miller claim was the only thing that made me pause for 2 sec.   

cut. First I didn't realize the bomb already went off as I was typing (and I was typing fast [as I can type anyway])  Second, it's not the end-all be-all.  No need for caps.

Cut by EXPLOSIONS!

Unless Affinity had a way of figuring in advance that the bomb was a dud, he's prolly town

[Serela]

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE'

Also if Affinity didn't know he wasn't going to be around for the bomb deadline, then, yeah.

I mean I doubt he would have held it as town either.

[BT]

More like he was gonna pass it but forgot about it and fell asleep.

(Yes. He is now eating cake while sleeping. I'm slightly jealous.)

random rageserela cut

[capt. h]

Alright, how long did it take you to type your LLD post?

[ActionDan]

I started to type a reply around 30 min or so ago.  Then I isoed LLD.  Then I wrote the post.

[capt. h]

You mean, you didn't even START writing your LLD read until 20 minutes before we bombed someone (most likely yourself)?  :wat:

[capt. h]

(I'm assuming by "ago", you means 30 minutes prior to posting your LLD read)

[ActionDan]

You mean, you didn't even START writing your LLD read until 20 minutes before we bombed someone (most likely yourself)?  :wat:

Yes?

[Kitten4u]

Okay, first, Dan's reaction to Dorian's claim is the worst thing and I'm willing to lynch him for it.  Lack of evidence of cult is not evidence of lies.

Anyway, the reason I'm very about Dorian's claim is because my role suggests there's a serial killer and/or survivor, and if all these things are in the game then I fear for town.  Note: I am not counterclaiming here.  Our roles are sufficiently different, I'm just not sure what to make of this.

Disappointed that no one else is really commenting on his claim.  I mean, it came out of nowhere, so I expected some people to have something to say. :S

[ActionDan]

I'll be busy for ~40 min.  I suggest you stop being .... how you are.

[capt. h]

Alrighty. I think Dan's scum.

MOVING ON.

To answer K4u, I kinda suspect that the mod is messing with us. Like with the box. Anyway, Dorian's claim is sufficiently creative enough that I don't think he made it up, and it seems like a typical town claim (timing wise) due to the Dorian v. Dan atmosphere. Honestly, I would find not claiming more suspicious. Course, if by out of "nowhere" you mean news of a cult was a complete surprise, then yeah, I'm not sure I believe it TBH.

[Kitten4u]

I can't think straight.  I'm going to go nap and come back to things.  I suppose I'll sum up my initial thoughts with what my gut is currently telling me.

##Unvote

[Chaore]

@Box: box ees dud, not beeg surprise. This is kind of exactly why I said the box was Wifom, and am kind of annoyed we spent time messing around with Box Shenanigans- The box is true wifom, It's not a mechanic town has information on that is tied to roles, it's just a HONKING box that could do anything.

Still not liking BT. His recent posts seem like the same lazy pretending and making up a stance to seem townie that his original conq vote had. It doesn't help LLD is an easy target in general in my opinion. Hes more voting because she's done nothing else and whoa hey that looks bad right? He's promising he's really trying to find scum but he keeps kinda using lazy bad plays and easy targets for his cases, I can't really buy that he's trying to find scum at -all-. Fine with my vote on him still.

Dorian's claim is so LOVING weird and oddly Dorian as LOVELY I have no reason but to believe it.  I haven't really had any problems with him anyway, even if his logic is somewhat eclectic and hard to follow.  Combined with K4U though I'm just starting to believe that his role is just another box though- There's probably a chance there is no cult entirely and Shadoweh is FROLLICING  with us.

Something about the Dan wagon feels kind of wrong to me. And that recent sassy comeback frankly feels like a townie as BOING move to me. I can totally see exactly what's up with the case on him because dear god his two actual scum reads are pretty much 'they attacked me for bad reason' and last I checked he wasn't UK, but something about the wagon (Frankly mostly Capt.H and his recent flipout on Dan for posting after the box exploded) just feels so utterly wrong to me. I'm also not sure why Capt. H seems to be trying to pull up old games for evidence this game, between using IMP (Completely incorrectly) and Dan's post being 'templated'. Can you tell me what's up with that, Capt. H?

@Omba: 'current discussion' seemed to be more box shenanigans and rabbits tend to hate wifom.

368. Also, while I'm endlessly glad this box mess is over, I'm also kind of tied down by a lot of work at the moment, so posts will be infrequent for at least this week. Sorry.

[Lexicat]

Right. Dorian needs to die for claiming with 2 votes on him. He really really does. The kind of pressure I was putting on him by calling him scum was just to see how he reacted, because his posts were being bad and I couldn't really get much of a read off them besides a slight scum lean for being so content-less.
 
When Dorian's response to pressure is to claim, I want him dead.
 
That being said, Dorian can live another day to try and shoot at some imaginary cult. Cults are inherently worse than any other anti-town unit.
 
So, back to Dan!
 
First off, BT, why do I need to elaborate further on my Dan case? He's done all of nothing since I posted it. He literally has added no content from the time I made my vote to the time when you posted your vote. This appears to be more misguided than scummy however, I'll let it go.
 
However, your misguided actions have done well in netting me some nice reads. Dan is pretty much conf. scum for deciding that I was a scum read mere minutes after BT votes me. He couldn't express this read earlier because....? There's no good answer to that question. Dan in pretty scum.
 
Also, that Dormio vote is really off base considering he has BARELY TALKED ABOUT DORMIO EITHER. I honestly don't know where Dan is getting his reads from, except that I do.
 
Dan is scum.
 
Also scummy: IHHN, for blatently cheerleading the misguided pressure that is on me, suspiciously followed by Dan doing basically the same thing. I don't like it, it's much to passive. Passive is a very scummy trait.
 
Good Ol' Fashion Townies: Capt.H, for making a lick of sense.
Affinity for forgetting to pass the box (for now, unless something else comes to light)
K4U because I'm getting a vibe.
Serela because her posting has been town oriented from my PoV.
 
Final Note: Mr.Bob needs to die eventually. Wouldn't mind seeing him with a bullet between the eyes tonight. Dorian?
 

[Lexicat]

Short List:
 
People who need Rope:
Dan
Dorian
IHHN

People who need a bullet between the eyes:
Bob
Omba
Dr.Rawr
Chaore

(For those of you who don't know, Rope is for lynching, Bullets are for Vigs. It's a very subtle difference in reads, but it's a difference)

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

##Unvote
Dan, the fluidity of your case and conviction of your words have convinced me to turn towards the light.

##Vote ActionDan

Yes, Dan. I would consider you giving two town reads and talking only about the box to be doing nothing. (Protip, town reads mean jack SQUID, scumskies.)
Following this up with the intent to have someone that hasn't posted yet die is scummy, scumskies.
Your refusal to explain why Affinity should die is scummy, scumskies.
Your OMGUS on LLD and I is scummy, scumskies.
Seriously, #237, the shit about his vote on Affinity. You stated that you wanted Affinity to die. You couldn't possibly be so inundated so as to call me scummy for your actions, are you, scumskies? ... Oh wait.
No, seriously, the #237 flailing is so bad I don't even.
Dormio is mischaracterizing the weight of my vote on affinity.  Obviously someone who hasn't posted yet is null so leapfrogging to "fails to give reasoning as to why aAffinity should die" means Dormio isn't thinking about the rational I would have to Affinity which to me reads that Dormio's reason for voting me was contrived and ignored the warning signs townies get when voting a person 'Why did this guy do this action?'
[/quote]I need to go over this again because of how bad it is.
Did you, or did you not, express willingness to kill Affinity?
Did you, or did you not, give any reason for your wish to kill Affinity?
Did you, or did you not, provide any other people that you were even suspicious of?
And yet, you have the gall to claim that my reason for voting is contrived? wtf?

LLD and Dormio are the scummiest to me. 
I gotta go to class in 10 min, I'll go over LLD in a few hours.

mfw

Affinity is more meh I have to read him deeper.  on one hand I'm happy he's gunning for me but his complaint against serela while I believe was originally a misunderstanding is something he's sticking too.

What happened to wanting him dead? Nice fencesitting there, scumskies.

I haven't read through the topic thoroughly yet, because I still need to finish my paper but I feel that Dorian's claim came completely out of the blue and, whilst it is believable, the timing of it was weird. Will keep this in mind as I reread Dorian later.



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[Conqueror]

Some stuff after a quick skim.

Role != alignment. I think I believe the claim because trolololol bastard mod but FFS we just finished a game where the scum vig shot the (town) cult recruiter. Dorian, you've yet to say anything else about the actual players in the game. Care to share?

When Affinity comes back I want to know why he didn't pass the box earlier despite the box deadline being in the middle of the night for him.

[Conqueror]

Dan, could you explain why LLD isn't just tunnely town? I'm know you're familiar with her playstyle.

[I have no name]

Also scummy: IHHN, for blatently cheerleading the misguided pressure that is on me, suspiciously followed by Dan doing basically the same thing. I don't like it, it's much to passive. Passive is a very scummy trait.

There's a difference between 'passive' and 'seeing good points made by other people and agreeing with them'.  BT gave an argument as to why you were scum, I had used the same argument to show my suspicion of several other players, I agreed with it and noted that I had missed you as lurky because of your first post.

Called the box as being a dud, although I want the cake.

[Lexicat]

There's a difference between 'passive' and 'seeing good points made by other people and agreeing with them'.  BT gave an argument as to why you were scum, I had used the same argument to show my suspicion of several other players, I agreed with it and noted that I had missed you as lurky because of your first post.

Called the box as being a dud, although I want the cake.

I agree there is a difference.
 
You fall on the "passive scummy" side.
 

[I have no name]

You fall on the "passive scummy" side.

No, you fall on the "passive scummy" side.

I'm not even being passive this game, I've had a couple meh posts but I'm actively scumhunting (and with 15 players it's hard remembering what everyone's been doing), while you have had 2 good posts, content-wise, while the rest have been...alluding to those and saying you can't help people who don't get it.

Dan is pretty much conf. scum for deciding that I was a scum read mere minutes after BT votes me. He couldn't express this read earlier because....? There's no good answer to that question.

I didn't express a scumread on you prior to BT's post/vote either, but the reasoning is the reasoning for most of my current scumreads.

[Shadoweh]

I'm Not A Bastard I'm Just Big Boned Ninth Votecount

Affinity (1): Serela
Action Dan (3): Lady Lambdadelta, Dormio, capt.h
I have no name (1): Dr. Rawr
Mr. Bob (1): I have no name
Conqueror (1):  Affinity
BT (2): Chaore, Omba
Dorian G. (1): Conqueror
Lady Lambdadelta (1): BT
Dormio (1): Action Dan
capt.h (0) :
Kitten4u (0):
Dr. Rawr (0):
Omba (0):
Chaore: (0):
Serela (0): 

Not voting: Mr. Bob, Dorian G., Kitten4u

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[Lexicat]

No, you fall on the "passive scummy" side.

I'm not even being passive this game, I've had a couple meh posts but I'm actively scumhunting (and with 15 players it's hard remembering what everyone's been doing), while you have had 2 good posts, content-wise, while the rest have been...alluding to those and saying you can't help people who don't get it.I didn't express a scumread on you prior to BT's post/vote either, but the reasoning is the reasoning for most of my current scumreads.

Right, I'm being passive with a list of definite reads, and leading wagons on players I want dead.
 
You're either really FRUITYHEAD or scum. My bet is on the second one.
 
I mean, you're basing all your scum reads off "lurking"? Seriously?
 
And then you call ME a passive player? You're ridiculous.
 
You can hang from the highest tree on the tallest hill any day now. You're next after Dan. You're worse than DORIAN.

[I have no name]

This is the exact thing that happened to me in Midnight Crew Mafia.
"really NEATO or scum"
Neither.  Just derpin' my way through my second ever D1.
"all reads off lurking"
There's not much to go off right now, the only non-lurk-scumread I have is Mr. Bob, every other scumread is shaky at best.
"call ME a passive player"
Well this exchange has changed that (you're being active in your posting now), but it seems like you're trying to bus the newbie.  just like the scumteam did in MC Mafia.  Which unfortunately worked D4 >.>
"You're next after Dan.  You're worse than DORIAN."
I don't see Dorian as being scummy.  As I said, Dan is shaky but still scummy.