Author Topic: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN  (Read 43682 times)

Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
« Reply #570 on: March 05, 2012, 02:39:05 AM »
To be honest, I have no idea what the fuck if Serela is town. If this ends up being another PX Tracker claim situation then I will be pissed.

I wrote up a paragraph of Shadoweh/ICE paranoia but then I deleted it because it was stupid. tl;dr I think the mason gambit is possible if there's no third buddy and they planned it out from the confirmation phase, which is why Shadoweh's confirmation post jumped out at me when I went to re-read. I have gut on scum!Shadoweh but there's nothing solid, ergh. Not willing to lynch either as long as the 2-scum theory is still unconfirmed.

Nameless... I still can't bring myself to buy the case on him, and none of it has really "changed" since I last talked about him. Re-reading didn't change my town read, either. ShadyK's softclaim still looks town to me, and nothing in his posts jumps out at me as scummy.

I'm tired and have a weird migraine coming and going, so I don't think I actually got much out of my re-read aside from some questions I want to press people about. Rawr and Serela look really horrible... oh.  :fail:

I'm content taking another look at Anthy, considering that he was scared about hopping on Serela's wagon early in the day. Like I said earlier, L-1 isn't something to be afraid of. I can't imagine a player wanting to avoid hopping on a wagon unless they were scared people might read them as scum, and this is consistent with my belief that Anthy has been trying to take safe stances and avoid getting into fights with other players all game. There's been little-to-no aggressive pushing for his beliefs, and his activity died completely during the most critical juncture of D1.

Affinity, what do you think of Anthy today? After all, you said he was worth looking into on D2 in your #326, but you dropped him completely after your first post of the day. It's weird that you said Serela was worth looking into as well, but then proceeded to give him passes all day while focusing on IHNM who was at the bottom of your list at the time. I'm not sure what sort of revelation could have caused this inconstency, so it seems possible that you were setting up a bunch of potential stances for whenever necessary.

Dormio, why did you think PX would be more active on D1 in your #155 after he spent the last game lurking through it? You were his scumbuddy, so you should know what his scum D1 play was like. Also, why is ShadyK on your ignore list? Why are you even ignoring players in the first place? Finally, why have you been so overly willing to drop your case on Nameless during various points throughout the game? You did this both on D1 and today.

Shadoweh, who is scum and why? From what I could tell, you were giving Dormio and I enough of a town pass to disclude us when using PoE back in your #480. You've been flipflopping the entire day and apparently didn't even think Serela is scum, which leaves you with... just about nothing. I can't tell what your opinions are supposed to be at all aside from Dormio and I being potential scum because ____, even though we supposedly weren't earlier in the day.

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Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
« Reply #571 on: March 05, 2012, 02:46:14 AM »
Noname I havent understood anything since the end of d1 :V  Ok but lemme clarify somthing.  There's no way Im with Affinity cuz he's the only one who has at one point actively voted me.  Granted there could be some reverse psychology involved or whatever but I doubt it I mean just look at how in depth his arguments go.  Then there's Anthy who said in #451 I'm somewhat scummy as well.    I mean I doubt I'd be up for having either of my partners claim me as scum.  But hey I guess that's a valid tactic.  Alright so now Im thinking ICE+Shadoweh are town, noname is town, Serela will prove to be town or not after tonight, dormio/huhwhat are a tad iffy but I'm leaning toward town, so that leaves...Affinity and Anthy.  Im thinking right now imma go with

##Vote:Anthy
The way you acted d1 makes you a suspect.  I remember how paranoid you were about that d1 mason claim which shouldnt make someone that uh paranoid. That and you called me a noob =(
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Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
« Reply #572 on: March 05, 2012, 02:50:47 AM »
Dormio, why did you think PX would be more active on D1 in your #155 after he spent the last game lurking through it? You were his scumbuddy, so you should know what his scum D1 play was like.
Actually that was the point where I gave up on him posting and decided that I would like to see his lynch.

Also, why is ShadyK on your ignore list? Why are you even ignoring players in the first place?
Because I think that he's likely to be town. I tend to do this when I don't have as much time to devote to mafia as I would like. Or when I am just Munak as fuck.

Finally, why have you been so overly willing to drop your case on Nameless during various points throughout the game? You did this both on D1 and today.
Because I keep double guessing myself on whether his behaviour could simply be caused by inexperience.

Anyway, attempting to write posts and stuff. Wish me luck.

Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
« Reply #573 on: March 05, 2012, 02:52:50 AM »
I just realized that the question about PX was dumb because he rolled scum both times he lurked through D1 recently, which you poked him for. So, uh... belated nevermind I guess :shrug:

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Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
« Reply #574 on: March 05, 2012, 02:57:34 AM »
Noname I havent understood anything since the end of d1 :V  Ok but lemme clarify somthing.  There's no way Im with Affinity cuz he's the only one who has at one point actively voted me.  Granted there could be some reverse psychology involved or whatever but I doubt it I mean just look at how in depth his arguments go.  Then there's Anthy who said in #451 I'm somewhat scummy as well.    I mean I doubt I'd be up for having either of my partners claim me as scum.  But hey I guess that's a valid tactic.  Alright so now Im thinking ICE+Shadoweh are town, noname is town, Serela will prove to be town or not after tonight, dormio/huhwhat are a tad iffy but I'm leaning toward town, so that leaves...Affinity and Anthy.  Im thinking right now imma go with

##Vote:Anthy
The way you acted d1 makes you a suspect.  I remember how paranoid you were about that d1 mason claim which shouldnt make someone that uh paranoid. That and you called me a noob =(
So that puts us both on pretty much the same page. (As mentioned, I'm still a little skeptical of ICE+Shadoweh)
Also scum voting/pushing other scum without telling the other makes it have a more realistic reaction, Anthy does that fine, but Affinity did seem like he was trying to bus you (and I fell for it a bit before I decided to look at everything again with a detached mindset)

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Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
« Reply #575 on: March 05, 2012, 03:39:44 AM »
Affinity always seems like he's trying to bus people, it's his natural style. :V By the way Shady, Affinity voting for you increases your chances of flipping scum by at least 50% if he's scum first.

Why would you flip out at the start of the game if you were just a mason/neighbor/whatever with ICE instead of a lone scumbuddy?
What the hell does 'Just a mason' mean? I don't get off on claiming scum when no one notices, I play to win. Don't pin PX's meta on me. I'm a little upset right now because it's occured to me that as long as this paranoid scenario is possible I'm never going to get nightkilled. I promised Dan my flip would clarify everything but it doesn't matter if I can't frigging die. It tempts me to have Serela consider shooting one of us. But any chance of scum is better then none at all. 

Tracker is a different claim from Vigilante, you know that. Trackers can fake results that vigs can't.

And my confirmation post sums up how I felt about being locked in a Quicktopic with ICE after our argument in the sign-up thread. Honestly I could have had Dormio, or huh what, or even Serela but NO, I got stuck with meanieface mcpooperhead. Hourai is a bastard.


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Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
« Reply #576 on: March 05, 2012, 04:31:43 AM »
Shadoweh, so you wish to die?
##Unvote
##Vote: Shadoweh
No, seriously, you're probably (~95%) town, and one of the better assets on our side.
##Unvote
##Vote: Anthy
Because I want to see either Affinity or Anthy lynched at the end of the day, and Affinity seems less likely at the moment.

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Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
« Reply #577 on: March 05, 2012, 04:33:13 AM »
You know what? Shadoweh/GreyICE scumteam. Let's do this.
##Unvote
##Vote Shadoweh
(If I were Shadoweh, then this would be the end of the post. :V)

Why Shadoweh? Well, first of all, everything I said in my #447 still applies to her.
I don't like her handwaving #447 either. Her entire response to #447 was "I get the gist of what Dormio is accusing me of now." (#470)
In fact, has she not been doing this all game?
She proceeds to forget that #447 ever happened from that point onwards and continues doing whatever the hell it is that she does.
Speaking of which, what has Shadoweh done this game? The number of cases that I have seen from Shadoweh this game is lesser than or equal to 0. I know that you're bound to get angry with this statement, Shadoweh, so I give you the opportunity to cite examples of when you ever justified the votes that you placed on people during this game.
Seriously, somebody get me an example of Shadoweh scumhunting this game.
There's also that damn mason claim. I refuse to believe that someone like GreyICE would simply "leak" the fact that they are masons with another player on D1. Especially when he was the one that talked about not claiming unless absolutely necessary. (#498)

Anyway, doing stuff thing.

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Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
« Reply #578 on: March 05, 2012, 04:38:42 AM »
Current thoughts go something like Shadoweh > Anthy > GreyICE.
Anyway, disappearing!

Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - NIGHT 1
« Reply #579 on: March 05, 2012, 04:39:12 AM »
VOTECOUNT:

huh what (0) - 
Dormio (1) -  Shadoweh
Serela (0) - 
ShadyK (1) - ICE
I have no name (2) -  Affinity, Serela
Shadoweh (1) -  Dormio
Affinity (0) -
Anthy (3) - huhwhat, ShadyK, I have no name
ICE (0) -

Anthy is at L2

Not voting: Anthy


With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day ends in ~18 hours.
« Last Edit: March 05, 2012, 07:28:17 AM by Hanged Hourai »

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Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
« Reply #580 on: March 05, 2012, 04:44:30 AM »
I'm pretty sure I'm 100% town actually. ^_^

Dormio wants to lynch me on the basis of the theory that I pointed out. :< Dormio dear, if I'm scum with ICE

Uhm hold on I will be right back


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Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
« Reply #581 on: March 05, 2012, 04:49:53 AM »
Nevermind, you guys have been calling him GreyICE  the whole time, I'm sad now. That would have been a cool scum catch.

If the chances of claiming masons when there are three scum is low, the chances of claiming masons when there are only two of you and one of you being accidentally caught means you auto-lose should be lower, not higher. If you think I'm scum with GreyICE, why does Anthy come before ICE on your voting priorities instead of after?


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Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
« Reply #582 on: March 05, 2012, 05:03:58 AM »
Nevermind, you guys have been calling him GreyICE  the whole time, I'm sad now.
I have been referring to him as ICE.
I'm pretty sure I'm 100% town actually. ^_^
Hmmm, I think I remember you saying something that answers this...
if you were scum you would lie to us about that!
Which is why 95% is as confident as I'm getting about anyone who's alignment I don't know (and I know between 1/3 and 1/2 of the player list's alignments, inclusive)

Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
« Reply #583 on: March 05, 2012, 05:17:51 AM »
Noname I havent understood anything since the end of d1 :V  Ok but lemme clarify somthing.  There's no way Im with Affinity cuz he's the only one who has at one point actively voted me.  Granted there could be some reverse psychology involved or whatever but I doubt it I mean just look at how in depth his arguments go.  Then there's Anthy who said in #451 I'm somewhat scummy as well.    I mean I doubt I'd be up for having either of my partners claim me as scum.  But hey I guess that's a valid tactic.  Alright so now Im thinking ICE+Shadoweh are town, noname is town, Serela will prove to be town or not after tonight, dormio/huhwhat are a tad iffy but I'm leaning toward town, so that leaves...Affinity and Anthy.  Im thinking right now imma go with

##Vote:Anthy
The way you acted d1 makes you a suspect.  I remember how paranoid you were about that d1 mason claim which shouldnt make someone that uh paranoid. That and you called me a noob =(
##VOTE SHADYSCUM

Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
« Reply #584 on: March 05, 2012, 05:24:32 AM »
He's drawing us a roadmap of his buddies.

It's christmas.

Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
« Reply #585 on: March 05, 2012, 05:39:05 AM »
his buddies.
Explain? You said Serela was town, and the mod confirmed we're not in any form of LYLO.

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Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
« Reply #586 on: March 05, 2012, 05:51:15 AM »
He thinks the part about Affinity is a super-specific denial considering what I told him about Affinity's tendencies towards his partners. My opinion on it is it's a little surreal to be coming from scum. It's the kind of post that causes your palm to be permenantly attached to your face when you read it.


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Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
« Reply #587 on: March 05, 2012, 05:54:38 AM »
Eh.

I think it's newbie silliness, not a scumtell. Otherwise you're telling me both Anthy and Affinity are his buddies, which is impossible due to Serela's claim.

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Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
« Reply #588 on: March 05, 2012, 06:38:14 AM »
Dormio wants to lynch me on the basis of the theory that I pointed out. :< Dormio dear, if I'm scum with ICE
Uh, what theory?

If you think I'm scum with GreyICE, why does Anthy come before ICE on your voting priorities instead of after?
This is for today's priorities. Basically what I'm saying is that, if we were to lynch from the claimed mason pair, I would much rather have you lynched than GreyICE.

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Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
« Reply #589 on: March 05, 2012, 06:48:26 AM »
The one where there are only two scum, dear. :V It's technically a theory until tomorrow, remember? Though with the way it's being treated it seems we're ready to call it confirmed.

I don't think you should lynch anyone from the pair because I think we're both town. If you're prioritizing one over the other it means you don't believe we're both scum.


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Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
« Reply #590 on: March 05, 2012, 07:00:19 AM »
Milady, I find it highly inappropriate for you to address someone such as myself as "dear".
I beg of you, milady, please think about where you say these things. You may be giving off the wrong appearance if you act so close to someone such as I.

If you're prioritizing one over the other it means you don't believe we're both scum.
I fail to see how this is the case.

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Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
« Reply #591 on: March 05, 2012, 07:19:25 AM »
Welcome to I forget to do shit on sundays . < .

I didn't throw my vote to serela cause he was at L-2 already, and after that point I really didn't care much for voting.

Also, I feel like huhwhat is the only one who actually is backing himself up on his vote while noname and shadyK are just jumping on his coat tails for the bandwagon.

Also ICE, I'd like to see you post more opinions and explanations other than your rabid gnawing at peoples legs for their opinions . < .

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Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
« Reply #592 on: March 05, 2012, 07:27:21 AM »
Hi Anthy please put your vote down on someone kthxbye


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Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
« Reply #593 on: March 05, 2012, 09:35:03 AM »
Quote from: huhwhat, IHNM
Affinity, why does Serela get a pass for IRL issues preventing him from posting clearly when Nameless has cited them as well?

I said that it prevented Serela from participating in the game (e.g prevented him from posting at times if I recall correctly).  IHNM's case, however, did not since he was still posting quite a bit, and was only used as a means to AtE.  While lurking is certainly anti-town, it is certainly not as overtly scummy as heaving your weight around wagons without justification.  I never said that Serela was town, just that he was less scummy compared to you.

Quote from: huhwhat
Affinity, what do you think of Anthy today? After all, you said he was worth looking into on D2 in your #326, but you dropped him completely after your first post of the day. It's weird that you said Serela was worth looking into as well, but then proceeded to give him passes all day while focusing on IHNM who was at the bottom of your list at the time. I'm not sure what sort of revelation could have caused this inconstency, so it seems possible that you were setting up a bunch of potential stances for whenever necessary.

Revelations as well as my opinion on Anthy are explained in this post of mine; I did not focus on him due to me thinking that D2 would be between Serela and IHNM.  I detailed the reasons for switching to IHNM quite clearly, I feel..

Reads coming up in another post.

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Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
« Reply #594 on: March 05, 2012, 10:24:20 AM »
Hi Anthy please put your vote down on someone kthxbye

I'm not throwing my vote anywhere cause the serela train decided to switch tracks and it'd look stupid of me to vote back onto ShadyK which then I'd bet ICE would call me on an OMGUS like how he called me on role hunting when I was just being a stubborn fuck . < .

But if it would so pleeeease the masses

##vote: ShadyK

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Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
« Reply #595 on: March 05, 2012, 10:24:56 AM »
P.S. School; I'm gonna be leaving in half an hour sooo . < .

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Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
« Reply #596 on: March 05, 2012, 10:32:54 AM »
I am with the school of thought that thinks Serela should be given a chance to prove his role tonight.  Content-wise, he is still banal and needs to update his opinions on other people, but whatever.

##Unvote
##Vote: ShadyK

I'm pretty baffled by his arbitrary PoE in this post (e.g I happen to think X and Y as iffy but town but oh I'm left with two people and I need to vote one of them) as a reason to vote Anthy when he hadn't looked at him before, and I suppose I can level the same accusation at him as I did against IHNM with this post; that he is randomly heaving his weight on wagons for weak reasoning.  ShadyK, if you are onto him for obvious D1 reasons that anyone could pick up without a reread, why didn't you suspect him at the beginning of D2?  Same goes with his other actions of being 'easily influenced' in voting Serela and IHNM (even asking why he shouldn't be lynched at this point), only to suddenly think he is town for no reason.  Combined with what I raised early D2, I suppose I prefer his lynch today.

On Anthy, I think his posts, apart from the fact that he makes no votes, are decent and original (e.g early D2 ShadyK stance, ICE stance D1 which I agreed with, etc.).  While I somewhat understand his reasons for not voting in his first D2 post, his refusal to do so in subsequent posts strikes me as outright refusing to pick a stance and stick to it despite having the materials (e.g him noticing that IHNM and ShadyK jumped on his wagon) to do so.  And all this after his confident ICE vote at the beginning of yesterday, which is off-putting.  Anthy, would you mind telling us why you were so willing to vote ICE in D1 but not willing to vote anyone today?  There's also the thing where the votes on him with the exception of huhwhat's have no reasoning to them at all, and I'm mainly getting the vibe that he's just someone who (wrongfully) does not take much value into votes.  In the end, he's still a viable choice, if only because he didn't vote most of today and late D1, although my least favourite one for the above reasons. 

I think Dormio's early D2 is admirable in his reasonable vote for IHNM and reasonable change to Serela, which strikes me as scumhunting.  Not sure what to think of his telegraphed Shadoweh vote at the end, which seems reasonable enough discounting ShadowICE's mason claim, but I think him town in his actions despite his weak late D1.

huhwhat has been mostly pro-town looking for today in his constant questioning and stuff, but he has been iffy-looking on IHNM and ShadyK, defending them for what I see as inadequate reasons  Here he says that IHNM is the 'worst-looking wagon' even though he admitted that IHNM posted reads without justification, but he did not suspect anyone on the wagon other than Serela, and did not do anything to convince the people who were on that wagon, only offering reasoning when prompted.  Also, he clears ShadyK for his 'softclaim' alone, which strikes me as somewhat weird and selective.  Would like him to elaborate on this.  Other than that he's mostly solid, but a IHNM, ShadyK flip will tell us more about him.

I'm still completely disgusted by IHNM frequent changes in opinion prompted by frequent 'rereads' and other excuses,  While his case on me seems more like scumhunting compared to his previous votes, his Anthy vote came entirely out of nowhere and went from 'unmemorable' to 'lynchable' without any justification.  That said, credit should be given when credit is due with his reasonable vote on me, which I guess makes me feel slightly better about him when compared to ShadyK.

Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
« Reply #597 on: March 05, 2012, 01:58:28 PM »
Explain? You said Serela was town, and the mod confirmed we're not in any form of LYLO.
Affinity.

Look at how bad he wanted to assure us that it was just not possible that him and affinity were scum together.

Then what does he do?

FOS: Affinity
Vote: Anthy

Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
« Reply #598 on: March 05, 2012, 02:00:09 PM »
I mean seriously, it's like a fucking roadmap.

He flips scum, Serela, put a bullet in Affinity's brainpan.  Sure.  Thing.

Vast irony being that Shadoweh assured me in the QT that Affinity had a bad habit of eating his buddies :D

Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
« Reply #599 on: March 05, 2012, 03:00:11 PM »
I am with the school of thought that thinks Serela should be given a chance to prove his role tonight.  Content-wise, he is still banal and needs to update his opinions on other people, but whatever.

##Unvote
##Vote: ShadyK

I'm pretty baffled by his arbitrary PoE in this post (e.g I happen to think X and Y as iffy but town but oh I'm left with two people and I need to vote one of them) as a reason to vote Anthy when he hadn't looked at him before, and I suppose I can level the same accusation at him as I did against IHNM with this post; that he is randomly heaving his weight on wagons for weak reasoning.  ShadyK, if you are onto him for obvious D1 reasons that anyone could pick up without a reread, why didn't you suspect him at the beginning of D2?  Same goes with his other actions of being 'easily influenced' in voting Serela and IHNM (even asking why he shouldn't be lynched at this point), only to suddenly think he is town for no reason.  Combined with what I raised early D2, I suppose I prefer his lynch today.

On Anthy, I think his posts, apart from the fact that he makes no votes, are decent and original (e.g early D2 ShadyK stance, ICE stance D1 which I agreed with, etc.).  While I somewhat understand his reasons for not voting in his first D2 post, his refusal to do so in subsequent posts strikes me as outright refusing to pick a stance and stick to it despite having the materials (e.g him noticing that IHNM and ShadyK jumped on his wagon) to do so.  And all this after his confident ICE vote at the beginning of yesterday, which is off-putting.  Anthy, would you mind telling us why you were so willing to vote ICE in D1 but not willing to vote anyone today?  There's also the thing where the votes on him with the exception of huhwhat's have no reasoning to them at all, and I'm mainly getting the vibe that he's just someone who (wrongfully) does not take much value into votes.  In the end, he's still a viable choice, if only because he didn't vote most of today and late D1, although my least favourite one for the above reasons. 

I think Dormio's early D2 is admirable in his reasonable vote for IHNM and reasonable change to Serela, which strikes me as scumhunting.  Not sure what to think of his telegraphed Shadoweh vote at the end, which seems reasonable enough discounting ShadowICE's mason claim, but I think him town in his actions despite his weak late D1.

huhwhat has been mostly pro-town looking for today in his constant questioning and stuff, but he has been iffy-looking on IHNM and ShadyK, defending them for what I see as inadequate reasons  Here he says that IHNM is the 'worst-looking wagon' even though he admitted that IHNM posted reads without justification, but he did not suspect anyone on the wagon other than Serela, and did not do anything to convince the people who were on that wagon, only offering reasoning when prompted.  Also, he clears ShadyK for his 'softclaim' alone, which strikes me as somewhat weird and selective.  Would like him to elaborate on this.  Other than that he's mostly solid, but a IHNM, ShadyK flip will tell us more about him.

I'm still completely disgusted by IHNM frequent changes in opinion prompted by frequent 'rereads' and other excuses,  While his case on me seems more like scumhunting compared to his previous votes, his Anthy vote came entirely out of nowhere and went from 'unmemorable' to 'lynchable' without any justification.  That said, credit should be given when credit is due with his reasonable vote on me, which I guess makes me feel slightly better about him when compared to ShadyK.

SCUM TRANSLATOR ACTIVATED:  HOLY GOD MY BUDDY JUST SET HIMSELF ON FIRE AND RAN IN A BIG CIRCLE SCREAMING "I'M SCUM WITH AFFINITY" LETS HOPE TO GOD THEY DON'T NOTICE MY GOD BURN THE LIABILITY BURN BURN BURN