MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN

[PX]

4 Cuts Zzzzzzz

[Hanged Hourai]

Hammer shush

[ActionDan]

didn't get a chance to look over shadyk.  who knows maybe affinity bussed him.  The arguments flowed well.

[Hanged Hourai]

VOTECOUNT:

huh what (0) -
Dormio (0) - 
ActionDan (0) -
PX (Great and Powerful Trixie) (7) -  Dormio, i have no name, Affinity, huh what, Shadoweh, ICE, dr rawr
Dr Rawr (1) -  ShadyK
Serela (0) -
ShadyK (1) - PX
I have no name (1) - Dan
Shadoweh (0) - 
Affinity (0) -
Anthy (0) -
ICE (0) -

Not voting: Serela, Anthy



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The day had come to an end the the members of The Felt convened to see who was most likely an insidious member of the Midnight Crew. Words were thrown, tossed, and acrobatically pirouette'd off the handle. After much careful deliberation and choice words, sides were taken and a majority was reached. Solemnly, they hanged the noose and prepared for the lynch to find out if they had been right in catching their enemy.
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They were wrong.
PX, playing Snowman, The Felt ? ? ? was lynched.
...
...
...

dr rawr, playing Matchsticks, The Felt Vanilla Member has died.


It is now Night 1. You have 24 hours to send in any night actions.

[Hanged Hourai]

The sun had risen once again on the mansion and the inhabitants wandered out to meet each other to further discuss and try to weed out the Mdnight Crew. Although there had been one missing from their numbers that did not show up. Entering the bedroom, they found the body, killed in his sleep.
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ActionDan, playing Cans, The Felt Tankman was killed Night 1.

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It is now Day 2.
VOTECOUNT:

huh what (0) -
Dormio (0) - 
Serela (0) -
ShadyK (0) -
I have no name (0) -
Shadoweh (0) - 
Affinity (0) -
Anthy (0) -
ICE (0) -

Not voting: Everyone

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day ends in 72 hours.

[Shadoweh]

Dear Scumteam:
I hate you. So much. I AM A CREDIBLE CONFIRMED TOWN THREAT GOD DAMNIT. YOU SHOULD BE TREMBLING IN FEAR OF ME.
Signed, Shadoweh,

Fine, we will throw down on Operation: GET MANS.
##Vote: Huh what

You are like the creepiest Doctor Kevorkian and I feel like you spent most of the day in the background cultivating dissent until the blazingly good fortune to get rid of the bomb and an idiot townie presented itself. Explain thineself.

Mr. No name: My trigger finger lynch finger has not forgotten you. You were also not present to explain your behaviour or to offer yourself in an act of forgiveness. Your fear of the bomb seemed too geniune for someone who suposedly believed PX was actually scum.

Anthy: You have said an amazing amount of nothing in your posts. You now have an entire day and ~*~three~*~ flips to peruse. Provide.
Serela: You see this thing above? Yeah. I remember you faking losing your posts before. I don't take excuses. Who's the scum, boy?
(PS ICE, Serela is actually a boy. I know, we don't believe it either.)

Dormio: Dormio. No wait. You were quick to join the easy PX hate and I am suspicious of you! Who do you suspect now?

I WANT OPINIONS AND I WANT THEM EARLY TODAY! A lack of suspects is unacceptable. We have victims and a murder trail to follow.

[I have no name]

Mr. No name: My trigger finger lynch finger has not forgotten you. You were also not present to explain your behaviour or to offer yourself in an act of forgiveness. Your fear of the bomb seemed too geniune for someone who suposedly believed PX was actually scum.

I was asleep during the thread explosion (actually, from my last post to "Day 1 has ended").  I didn't expect 3 and a half pages of...that.  Also how was I supposed to know there couldn't be a scum-bomb?
Still don't like ICE, ShadyK seems clear, agreeing on huh what being suspicious. (and in the case of masons Shadoweh/ICE, I'm not sold on  Shadoweh being town).

[Shadoweh]

I was asleep during the thread explosion (actually, from my last post to "Day 1 has ended").  I didn't expect 3 and a half pages of...that.  Also how was I supposed to know there couldn't be a scum-bomb?

The alignment of the bomb in question actually doesn't matter. Whether red or green they kill the person who hammers them the same. Why do you bring this up in your defense?

ShadyK seems clear

Why?

agreeing on huh what being suspicious.

Why?

Still don't like ICE, ///(and in the case of masons Shadoweh/ICE, I'm not sold on  Shadoweh being town).

Those two statements contradict each other. Also you've never voiced suspicion of me before, but you're willing to follow my own suspicions why?

[I have no name]

The alignment of the bomb in question actually doesn't matter. Whether red or green they kill the person who hammers them the same. Why do you bring this up in your defense?

Because I honestly thought PX was scum.

Reading through the posts from while I was asleep, ShadyK didn't seem scummy.  Either it's good acting or I was mistaken.

I thought huh what was suspicious after reading through the same posts, you just posted before I did.  If I have nothing to add why bother typing up an essay?

Those two statements contradict each other. Also you've never voiced suspicion of me before, but you're willing to follow my own suspicions why?

Either I'm wrong about ICE and you're both town, there's a scum+town mason group (is that even possible?), or you're both scum.
Also I'm not following your suspicions we just happen to have the same ones.

[Shadoweh]

Very well. Those answer s aren't satisfying, but they'll do for now. There's something endearing about how stubborn your beliefs are.

[GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em]

You are like the creepiest Doctor Kevorkian and I feel like you spent most of the day in the background cultivating dissent until the blazingly good fortune to get rid of the bomb and an idiot townie presented itself. Explain thineself.

I was busier early on in the day, so that might have been a slight contributor, but I thought I was posting about as much as I usually do after the Anthy vote. I was pushing my opinions when possible so I don't think I was a "background presence", especially not when there were people like Anthy and Serela around who were actually genuinely lurking. Also, Rawr totally did not look like idiot town. <_< Were you reading his posts when you voted him or were you just sheeping Ice and I because why not?

##Vote Serela
Serela is the scummiest alive right now for having no solid stances yesterday except for chipping in to support the budding wagons on PX and Rawr without original contribution of his own or a notable thought process. Say what you will about his meta, but I'm pretty sure he is capable of actually scumhunting instead of just sheeping the wagons started by town leader figures while posting no other content. His actual habits with posting frequency remind me of lurkscum!Furien and lurkscum!K4U from MotK Mafioso (a game featuring play quality comparable to this one's). Lurking D1 is fine if you posting something meaningful when you're around, but Serela looked like he was only posting when he knew he absolutely had to post.

I'm not pleased with Anthy attempting to stay out of conflict throughout the entirety of D1 (especially at deadline), either. His posts were frequent in the middle of the day when the spotlight was on him, but as the deadline approached the most he came up with was this, which isn't scumhunting so much as specuwaffles. I think his lack of strong stances yesterday originates from scum trying to avoid picking fights, as I said when initially voting him.

Nameless is still town.

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

Dormio: Dormio. No wait. You were quick to join the easy PX hate and I am suspicious of you!

Uh, what? Please explain.

Anyway.
##Vote Serela
Sheeping HW etc.

Doing other stuff right now. Will be around later.

[Affinity]

##Vote: ShadyK

Voting for reasons I mentioned here; that great lacuna between his dropping his vote on IHNM here (terminating his questioning solely due to what ICE said), and his next vote here, is staggering, and all this after shifting between rawr, Anthy and PX for three posts without coming to a decision.  There's a sense that he's trying to hide and sheep behind the stronger players, and that he was trying to play a safe wait-and-see until the very end.

Am also interested in the other obvious suspects such as Serela and Anthy, but I feel ShadyK has the right enough balance between laying low and being scummy for me to feel him as a top priority for today.  huhwhat I need to reread, though I remember not being happy with him towards the beginning of D1.

[Hanged Hourai]

VOTECOUNT:

huh what (1) - Shadoweh
Dormio (0) - 
Serela (2) - huhwhat, Dormio
ShadyK (1) - Affinity
I have no name (0) -
Shadoweh (0) - 
Affinity (0) -
Anthy (0) -
ICE (0) -

Not voting: Serela, ShadyK, I have no name, Anthy, ICE

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day ends in ~70 hours.

[Shady_Ghost]

Reading through the posts from while I was asleep, ShadyK didn't seem scummy.  Either it's good acting or I was mistaken.

Wait what no.  HOW DO I GO FROM SCUM TO TOWN THAT QUICKLY!?  Ya gotta be more like Affinty keep the pressure comin!

##Vote: ShadyK

Voting for reasons I mentioned here; that great lacuna between his dropping his vote on IHNM here (terminating his questioning solely due to what ICE said), and his next vote here, is staggering, and all this after shifting between rawr, Anthy and PX for three posts without coming to a decision.  There's a sense that he's trying to hide and sheep behind the stronger players, and that he was trying to play a safe wait-and-see until the very end.

Am also interested in the other obvious suspects such as Serela and Anthy, but I feel ShadyK has the right enough balance between laying low and being scummy for me to feel him as a top priority for today.  huhwhat I need to reread, though I remember not being happy with him towards the beginning of D1.

I love you too Affinity.  In retrospect I shouldnt have been so influenceable on ICE's opinion alone and my indeciveness was also a bad move.  BUT WHAT'S DONE IS DONE. I've got this uncanny feeling that if im not lynched ill be nightkilled so I may have to divulge info later on (oh god im making myself a target why am i doing this).  It'd probably be useful to know though.  As much as I'd love to vote now Im still not sure @_@.

[Shady_Ghost]

Oh wait now I know what happened.  Hopefully my theory is correct but I may share bits and pieces later.  Ok but I definitely have my choices narrowed down now.  I dont think huhwhat is a scum cuz the way I see it now Anthy and/or Serela are scum right now.  Im leaning more toward the Serela side mainly due to lack of content in posts. Yeah Im definitely gonna go with Serela on this one.
##Vote: Serela

[I have no name]

Wait what no.  HOW DO I GO FROM SCUM TO TOWN THAT QUICKLY!?

Don't get me wrong, you're still on the list of possible targets, just less high up.

[Shady_Ghost]

Don't get me wrong, you're still on the list of possible targets, just less high up.

=(

[Shadoweh]

Uhm, I'm still writing up my post about how huh what is maybe scum but I don't know he's kind of like Li but maybe not and oh god I don't know.

But I was cut by this incredibly adorable thing that I have to address. If people are voting you and looking at you suspiciously you really don't usually have to be worried about being nightkilled. You have probably pulled something epic facepalm worthy. Here is the list of things it is 'worth it' to claim.

> You are a cop and X is GUILTY
> You are a tracker and you just saw someone target the nightkill (Dan)
> You are a watcher and copy paste from above

If you had something else it probably wasn't worth mentioning at all. >_>

[Shadoweh]

Affinity, look at that sad face. How can you seriously vote a newbie that adorable? You still have no soul. :<

[Shady_Ghost]

mmm it isnt super facepalm worthy but it isnt super worth it either.  I'd know if it was claimworthy im not that stupid but this is iffy

Affinity, look at that sad face. How can you seriously vote a newbie that adorable? You still have no soul. :<

...adorable.  IM NOT TRYING TO BE ADORABLE HERE AAAAAAAAAAAA

[Shady_Ghost]

Actually thinking about it some more it aint super useful anyways so forget I said anything >.>

[ICE]

##Vote: Anthy
##Unvote
##Vote: Nameless

[Hanged Hourai]

VOTECOUNT:

huh what (1) - Shadoweh
Dormio (0) - 
Serela (3) - huhwhat, Dormio, ShadyK
ShadyK (1) - Affinity
I have no name (1) - ICE
Shadoweh (0) - 
Affinity (0) -
Anthy (0) -
ICE (0) -

Not voting: Serela, I have no name, Anthy,

Serela is at L2

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day ends in ~64 hours.

[Shadoweh]

*_* I will refrain from posting merely to talk about how I want to keep you and go back to looking at huh what. I supose it is true your presence increased near the close of the day, huh what, but I'm not sure if that's as important since by then the day was cut and dry.

Also, Rawr totally did not look like idiot town. <_< Were you reading his posts when you voted him or were you just sheeping Ice and I because why not?

A little bit of both. I think you'll find the amount of reading what Rawr was saying correlated with my reluctance to vote him and wishes for someone else to do the suicide hammering. You're allowed to disparage people when they're alive, but when they actually flip idiot town..

Say what you will about his meta, but I'm pretty sure he is capable of actually scumhunting instead of just sheeping the wagons started by town leader figures while posting no other content. His actual habits with posting frequency remind me of lurkscum!Furien and lurkscum!K4U from MotK Mafioso (a game featuring play quality comparable to this one's). Lurking D1 is fine if you posting something meaningful when you're around, but Serela looked like he was only posting when he knew he absolutely had to post.

Are you saying there was something wrong with Kitten4u @_@ What would you say about his meta, huh what? I think incompetence to the point of utter confusion is more of a scumtell to him, a Serela that is scum kind of knows what he's doing because he has all the information. I have noted a few things I would consider questionable but I'd rather see what you think of them directly.

Your comments about Anthy are also agreeable for now. Currently I have a bias on looking at him because of this distrust I feel from you though. Do you have a third suspect?

[GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em]

Serela's town meta is less incompetence to the point of utter confusion and more him trying to scumhunt then having trouble explaining putting his thoughts into words. Serela in this game has no thoughts aside from encouraging those already stated by other people. There's no effort put into scumhunting from him, if you read his posts. town!Serela tries harder than this. This is just lurkscum.

No, I don't have a third suspect right now. You and ICE are still town, I'm not willing to dive into conspiracy theory bullshit. Nameless is a strong town read. ShadyK and Affinity haven't done anything that sticks out as scummy - ShadyK bugged me on get earlier in D1 but I thought he improved afterwards. Might re-read him an extra time to humor Affinity, but I don't expect any revelations. Uh, I guess I could be convinced to dislike Dormio for looking like he's been only half-playing, but his demotivation doesn't strike me as scummy demotivation. Obviously at least one these people is probably non-town assuming we have three scum, but I'd rather just focus on lynching my main suspects first then figure out the buddies once they flip. Being suspicious of half the game at once is kind of a waste.

From what I gather you're attacking me because I had less time to post earlier in the day and was also wrong. vOv The only defense I can offer is "I had less time to post earlier in the day, and was also wrong."

[GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em]

I re-read, again.

As far as I'm concerned, trying to lurk out the bomb situation should be scummier than being the most active at that point in the day, since it was a critical juncture in deciding how the lynch was going to play out and I don't imagine scum would want to be associated in pushing for the death of two townies unless they thought they could get away with it. This is another reason that I hate the activity of Serela and Anthy.

For clarity, opinions on EVERYONE! instead of just the people I suspect.
1. huh what
Me!

2. Dormio
Unmemorable is the best way to describe him. I want to hear something from him today that doesn't involve sheeping me. Curious what happened to his Nameless suspicion even though I never bought it. Looks more like demotivated neutral to me than scum, though.

6. Serela
Scum. His content is basically "early sheeping of obvtowns with nothing else of note" -> "I'm still here! with nothing of note" -> return at deadline which ends in nothing of note. He's not even trying to produce or scumhunt. I don't mean "it's Serela so his scumhunting is silly", I mean "Serela is lurking and not even trying to scumhunt Serela-style."

7. ShadyK
The "i'm not sure who i want to vote between px and rawr so i'll wait until px posts.........." looks more null to me because people (particularly inexperienced players) do that shit all the time on another site I frequent regardless of alignment. D1 posts look kinda slimy, though, which irritated me early on in the day. The softclaim looks town, though, not sure why newbscum would offer that up at this point unless he expected to be lynched, which is unlikely in this case, since only Affinity has been consistently pressuring him). So... probably Town, I guess.

8. I have no name
Town based on reactions to posts. The one where he called me out for interpreting his attitude as town instead of just being content that a townie thought he was town is a good example of this. Would not lynch.

9. Shadoweh
Town mason. I think it's silly that she's currently attacking half the entire playerlist. If there were five scum we would have already lost. Also, attacks on my activity are grounded on stuff that was beyond my control, so :irritation:.

10. Affinity
What happened to his early attacks on Serela and I? I recall him using Serela looking scummy as a venue to attack me, but this was later forgotten entirely as the day went on. Looks like SUBLIMINAL BUSSING 8). If we want to play Guess The Scumteams like Shadoweh seems to be encouraging me to do then he'd be the third for lack of anyone better. Affinity, do you have any strong opinions on Serela at the moment beyond "his lynch looks okay"?

Rest of content has seemed solid to me, though. On D1 I was leaning Town on him, but right now the Serela discrepancy could use some looking into.

11. Anthy
Scummy. He took no particularly strong or daring stances during D1 and lurked through the tension late in the day without providing any notable comments that would affect the lynch. See what I said about activity during the bomb situation either, scum would avoid ties to the double town flips if possible and Anthy did this while not giving any clear suspicions or alternatives either.

12. ICE
Town mason. Would like him to explain the Nameless vote since I seem to recall him claiming Nameless was town D1, and I'm not buying anything on Nameless at the moment.

There. I hate writing huge :everyone: posts but hopefully my opinions are clearer now?
I think that trying to focus on the entire playerlist at once is a bad idea because everybody is going to be scummy to an extent. I'd rather just push for the ones who actually look like scum to me, hence why my opener only really talks about Serela and Anthy.

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

I forgot that I was playing this game. Whatever. Anyway.
##FoS Shadoweh

First of all, there's that D1 mason claim which is all kinds of weird.
I don't like the fact that she felt the need to attempt to redirect everyone's attention fairly early on in the day, claiming that she could see a 1v1 between GreyICE and PX and that PX would win purely due to not lynching lurkers D1.
I mean, it's like, why do you feel the need to distract everyone and try your best to disturb their lines of thought?
There's also her attitude. Despite the fact that she had participated in basically no scumhunting up to this point, she feels that she has the authority to make a post like #175. If you want people to get off your partner, why do you not give people a reason to get off him?
All you do is yell loudly, going "OMG GreyICE is so town why are you voting him?!?!?!?!?!". I fail to see how this epitomizes townie behaviour.
You yourself have done a fair amount of flip-flopping in regards to whether or not you want PX lynched, you know.
I mean in #94, you vote him over anyone else. And then you have #150 where you say you have a null read on him, despite keeping your vote on him. Then you state your desire to see PX dead in #201. Okay. But then, this is followed up by "Let's vote Rawr and forget about wanting PX lynched." in #222 after his claim. You specifically state in #337 that you do not wish to see PX lynched and votes I have no name out of the blue. Even after having called I have no name townie on several occasions beforehand.
And then she calls for Rawr to hammer bomb!PX after having said that she didn't want this to happen in #353.
I also don't like her buddying up to ShadyK.
And then we get to D2, where Shadoweh has a newfound hatred for HW that I can't quite understand. Please explain?
You also claim that I was quick to join the easy PX hate, but I have no clue where that would put yourself in regards to PX.

Which brings me to GreyICE. What's the point of only analysing one half of the self proclaimed masons.
There's the thing where he pretty much refused to answer questions directed towards himself.
I basically have issues with the way he goes about doing things, but find him to be better than Shadoweh and stuff. Whatever.

ANYWAY. TO EXPAND ON SERELA-ANTI STUFF THING YOU KNOW. Because conspiracy theory land isn't a good place to stick around in for too long.
#119: The hell is this post, anyway? You make the rant about GreyICE, but don't do anything with it. What point was there to that rant? All it did was add fluff to your post.
You state that it's impossible for you to read the newer players. Why? What prevents you from reading them? You managed to say stuff about GreyICE, at the very least.
You then state what is, effectively, a null read on every other player in the game before voting for PX for not having much content.
And then you unvote, for the rest of the day. You come back, stalling the game saying that you have a post. However, later you claim to have lost the post and tell Rawr to hammer.
Why couldn't you have provided an outline of the post, at the very least?

Still dislike I have no name.
As I've said earlier, I don't feel that he's been scumhunting during the earlier parts of D1. And the rest of D1. And D2 so far.
The not wanting to hammer the bomb when the people who were on at the time seemed to think that Rawr hammering PX was a better idea was a thing too.
Not to mention how he seems to instantly believe that PX is a bomb after a claim from ActionDan, whilst he expresses suspicion of Shadoweh and GreyICE's mason claim (#190, #428).
And stuff.
##Unvote
##Vote I have no name

[Shadoweh]

Okay okay god let me sleep first.
When I have so many unsure reads my only recourse is to continuously attack all the confusing spots until they turn themselves bright and seeable. Bounce off the walls until you can feel what's around you and all.

Dormio: I have all the authority. All of it. And PX was winning you derp, if you look at the votecount ICE was ahead at five votes.
I can't believe you're asking why I wanted people to not lynch the person I've been sending love taps in private.

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

If you want people to get off your partner, why do you not give people a reason to get off him?