Psycho Prophecy (Game Over Town Win)

[Kitten4u]

Repost with the correct account and I'll go through and fix it.  I just don't have the anon account passwords, so I can't do that myself

[Ryuki]

Tell me something that screams "cop" louder than asking for a line like that. He already made people think that's what he's capable of; the problem I have is with the execution.

I used 'he was more active at certain times' because you can sometimes excuse townies for making mistakes due to a lack of game time. Mr. Krabs shows that he did not have a particular time problem with his abundance of posts, and he manages to act just as bad (or worse) than Bardiche.

[Ryuki]

Just saying but this 'later' will probably be when I'm already gone for the day. Thankfully, I should be able to post once or twice during the morning.

[W]

Alpha, if you believe that Bardiche isn't lying about being roleblocked, and you believe it wasn't a town roleblocker, why do you want to shoot him? Just think about that line of reasoning for a second. You need to look deeper if you still believe he is scum.

Barney. What exactly is the scum intent of making others believe you are a cop, truthful or not? The forcing to claim is more noise. That being said, since Duff Beer has righteously confirmed his Duff ingestment powers I assume he wants Alpha to post that he's aligned with town again. Which he should. Duffman suggests this to Alpha for everyone else's piece of mind.

Let Duffman make his thoughts clear. What do you think of Megaman? He might as well not have posted today since his Day 2 post was chiming in about the pills and nothing on thoughts about players. I will be displeased if he is prodded today before he's contributed.

[Faiz]

Actually, it should be fine, I have his #236.

[Kaku Seiga]

And there was still a day left, so saying the Krabs lynch being impossible is quite an overstatement.

The Krabs lynch was supported by Barney, Li and Gilgamesh at that point, with a number of others stating they were uninterested in his lynch. What makes you think it was not impossible? I think it quite truthfully did become impossible within that timespan.

6) There was plenty of time for people to post an abridged version of the case. Nobody bothered, it was just random role stuff

There was still plenty of time left, and normally one informs people. This is basic courtesy, and normally ignoring that will yield some glares sent your way. Why do you feel it was alright to do this, other than that it "was fun"?


... You guys. Alpha 60, you didn't scare me yesterday and you don't scare me today, stop threatening to shoot me already. :derp:


Duffman, what do you think are the odds of Megaman channeling Zakeri? I very strongly suspect we're just not going to get him to contribute in a meaningful way. Who do you think is the most likely scum, and if you had to put a vote down on who would it be? I think you're getting a tad lazy here now that you're pretty much confirmed Town. Gimme reason to believe.

[W]

Duffman is rereading, give him time you. >:< Zakeri lurks but posts usefully when he does post. There is a difference.
Duffman is not feeling righteous because today hasn't added much. Everyone is continuing to concentrate on pills. Duffman is looking at the list of players and thinking. Either Megaman, Barney and Bardiche hold the last scum, or Duffman needs to check over his townie friends again. You are one of the last people Duffman considers town, beside Li Shang.

[Skull]

...Sigh...
After ISO reading Kanji's reads,
Overall he really only tunneled and threw a few questions here and there.

I can see his trying to connect to Saki in this as either misleading or bussing. It doesn't help the fact that this is the first time he mentioned Saki after 48 hours in the game...

However, Bardiche could be pointed at as well with no comments at all from Kanji, distancing...?

...This feels so wrong...As of the Moment Saki is attacking Bardiche...(maybe so he can stop getting a headache)
While Bardiche is attacking Li Shang, as Li Shang attacks back...
Bardiche OMGUS?...hm...
...
##Vote Bardiche

Leaving this here for now as I look Stare attempt to stare a hole into posts.

[W]

Gilgamesh, who did you target last night?

[OOO]

I'm not channeling Zakeri channeling Alice as much as I am channeling Shadoweh.

Power and Internet around where I live has suddenly gone down and I've no idea when they'll fix it. I'm not going to be able to promise any time to get on and do anything mafia wise until around 24 hours from now. Give or take a few hours.

I'll leave handling the obvious problem with this to Serela/K4U, I'm just letting everyone know.

Also, Steve was the cutest, apparently, for what it matters.

[Kaku Seiga]

By the way, Duff Beer. Do you have infinite uses of the truth serum? Because if you do, I don't see why we don't just have everyone consume one and then hullaballoo mass claim Town. Liars will be easily rooted out.

[Kaku Seiga]

@Gilgamesh: And Kanji was clearly misleading. I wouldn't use just connections as the be-all-end-all of all cases. It serves as addendum, not a stand-alone case. You didn't mention Kanji at all either, does that make YOU scum?

[Skull]

I targeted Bo Peep, Found out she was

Spoiler:

Zakeri

.

[OOO]

disregard it was just www again and i deleted them

Working on post now, sorry about the delays.

[W]

Sigh. I supose lynch all lurkers isn't the same as lynch all disconnectors. I'm willing to let the situation get resolved before mindlessly pursuing Megaman destruction. Speaking of resolve, if Duff Beer could tell us if Alpha lied or not?

>_______> Saki did you honestly have to ask a question like that. Oh yeah and about the vote thing: Probably Barney. Expect that to change in the next five minutes. Duffman is not liking this feeling of plodding through the town. Duffman wonders how far underground the other two scum already are.

Megaman: www? As in a virus? Please tell me Megaman.EXE has been having problems posting due to viruses.

[Faiz]

Unfortunately, I need to wait for the pill to digest. I would have fed Alpha this pill yesterday, had I realized this.

[OOO]

I've been having problems posting due to power issues and lack of internet like I said early, which was totally caused by the WWW because i am megaman you see.

but i blew them up and everything is fixed now so I can post. Earlier I wasn't sure because last time this happened around here it took a full day to get fixed, but I suppose it was easier to solve this time so yeah.

[Kiva-la]

@Merryweather: Oh, sorry, I see now. I just saw this and thought that most of the case was about Bardiche.

Bardiche, I'm going to need some words from you here because as of know I'm seeing you as one of my suspects.

I will admit interactions with Kanji and Krabs make me no like him anymore:[/color]

I read the case, and I assumed that because you hadn't mentioned Barney before you made the case, and you mentioned other people's actions towards Barney instead of his own, that it wasn't a case on Barney but one on Bardiche instead. Sorry about that.

@Barney:

Krabs posted in late D1 even less than Beer. Actually, he didn't post at all, something that isolated my bad read on him nicely.
All I'm seeing from his D2 is a big mess so far. He posts suspicions on Bardiche and Beer. He didn't bother to highlight which of the two he thinks is worse, and if anything, his last remark on Bardiche made me think it was Beer before his vote proved otherwise. Without a good explanation on why Bardiche is worse, I see this as bandwagoning.

Oh god this is hilarious, I wasn't even there after you came on. I was away/sleeping.
Read my fucking post will you? I've mentioned in at least 3 different posts (possibly only two) that I only have a gut read on Duff Beer, Bardiche is not a gut read, but a scum read instead. Stop misrepping me and make a good case with good reasons.
I'm starting to doubt my town read on you.

Also, Bardiche claimed his supposed role and claimed to be RB'd. Krabs hasn't really done anything, making Bardiche easier to link stuff to when stuff pops up.

Merryweather said she didn't want anyone claiming, if she says it's fine for today, and enough people ask, I will claim, but only in a dire situation.

Mr. Krabs shows that he did not have a particular time problem with his abundance of posts, and he manages to act just as bad (or worse) than Bardiche.

I'm normally away for around 16 hours on weekdays. Does that excuse my downtime? Because that is the majority of your case on me.
In fact Barney, if it makes you feel better, I normally wouldn't be posting for another three hours, but I'm home today instead. So I have more time.
Your case is horrible and your horrible. Die scum.
##Unvote
##Vote:Barney
And just to make it clearer for you, I think you are worse than Bardiche.

[DiEnd]

Alright where to begin?

how obvscum were my actions with this considered? My vote on Beer was bound to change

Nope, not a valid retort.  You didn't so there ya go.

seeing as there was not enough people behind it at the time

when you posted, the people weren't there so where are you going with this?
Hell the votecount that was right before you disappeared had this:

Duff Beer (1): Barney

I am not buying that logic for one second that you couldn't comment on any of the other wagons when you were the sole supporter of your lynch.

. But, to be frank, there was well enough firepower for the likely Orange lynch, so there was no "town is lacking in votes" rush. With the vig still in the air, it was confusing to 'bank' on a vote, so I just stayed with Beer.

Seriously?  As the only supporter of a lynch that had NO support whatsoever, you now claim that since a vig was going to be fired it would be a ok.  I'm glad you acknowledge you are scummy.
This is not coincidental since you were around at the time, acknowledge you were scummy for my accusations and didn't act on them like you were expected to and just stayed away from it entirely.  Hell:

Krabs posted in late D1 even less than Beer. Actually, he didn't post at all,

You being there and not saying anything, (yes late day does not include just the last 3 hours) is worse than what you are voting Krabs for, so by your own logic you are scum.
I'm ready for you to die now.
Especially since you are claiming you knew the yellow pill is a cop of some sort and didn't want to offer yourself up to it because the "execution is bad"  What.  No.

Bardiche's 356 case on Li is one I think rings true.  Li had opposed Orange all day yet when one weak role related reason came up he immediatly became suspicious of Orange enough to vote him. 
Bardiche mentioned it but here's my problem with this:
You counterclaimed neighborizer to lynch Orange.  Let's see your neighbor verify you did this.

Gilgamesh's 372 case makes me want to punch him in the teeth again.  No, that's just fluffy I don't even know.  Make a real one and maybe talk about someone else before I have to start making heads roll.

Megaman has This much longer to put smoke to his keyboard and start putting out content before I become sold on killing him in a way just because of how unreadable a lurk lurker is.

But by Krabs channeling me :V

[DiEnd]

Yeah what Merry means to Gilgamesh is that if he can make a case on Bardiche, fine but we wish you to talk about others as well.

[Punch Hopper]

I've talked things over a bit with my Secret Confidant (who is definitely a person who exists @Merryweather, but I'll leave claiming it up to them), and I'm fairly certain Barney is the ideal lynch for the day now. Also, said Secret Confidant has been making me waffle over Krabs even more. I think I might be gutting him as townie-ish now (most of my displeasure with him was early game stuff anyway), so if I had to select a vig/lynch combo, it'd be Bardiche (vig) + Barney (lynch), POSSIBLY with Megaman instead of Bardiche if he does not provide soon, given how little he gave us on D1. Bleh.

##Unvote
##Vote Barney
I understand Merryweather's analysis of Kanji's interactions with him from D1 and strongly agree with it, but that's not the only reason I have for swinging over. The way he has been fretting over Duff Beer's role looks like scummy discrediting being passed off as paranoid town to me - back in #346, he claimed his scum read of Beer was waning, so the sharp increase in distrust looks like a way for him to keep tunneling on his likely town mislynch target. This is made much worse by the subject matter of Beer's claim. Utilizing Beer's role benefits town in every way regardless of his alignment, for if the pill had some innate scummy effect, then this would probably be very easy to out if it was something like roleblock or silencer or whatever, and rolecop / tracker / etc make no sense given that Alpha already claimed. If Beer isn't scum, then there's obviously nothing to be lost from Alpha accepting the pill at all, because this isn't something Beer would have a reason to lie about. I think Barney is scum trying to deny town information (either a cleared town!Alpha or a confirmed scum!Alpha, depending on Alpha's alignment. Could go either way at this point).

Also, Barney being scum would totally explain why Bo Peep died. Just saying. <_<

Bardiche stance hasn't changed at all, but is just out-prioritized now. OMGUS on me seems weak, if scum wanted to avoid attention from being on a wagon then they wouldn't jump on it in the first place since they're going to be visible on the wagon no matter what their case is, so I'm not sure what he's even trying to imply about my orange vote. Would prefer that Alpha vig him.

Haven't had very much time for this game lately, so my posts have been and will probably continue to be rather sparse. Sorry all. If there's anything else I should mention, now would be a good time to ask me.

[DiEnd]

If you two are just neighbors regardless of alignment I don't see why you can verify each other this it's kind of a thing.
If you two are masons or something go ahead and stay shut up.

[Punch Hopper]

My neighbor buddy told me that they want to stay quiet for now. If they change their mind then I'm not stopping them from outing them self.

And no, we're not masons. I strongly believe them to be town, though.

[Kick Hopper]

Ok.

First things first. 

I'm pissed.  At duffbeer.   You put off full claiming D1 when you were a likely vig canidate and now you have to wait for me to "digest" the pill putting off another day.

Let me quote this.

I am the Druggy Donna, I have pills of every color. I know for a fact about what certain colors do when eaten. I had no idea what the other colors would do so I tried eating the Gold one, since gold is the color of duff, as a test run. I asked why gold did nothing because I didn't realize that I had received a result. These accounts do that thing where they don't put up that obnoxious popup when you have a new PM.

First of all the "brown pill" you gave me was actually described not as a pill, but as a "crayon" (as opposed to the yellow pill, which was actually described as a "pill") even though I refered to it as a pill D1.  And it tasted bad.  Today nothing of note has happened because of it.  Now you said the Gold one was a pill and that you had no idea what it did so you eat it to find out.  You got a result which I'm taking a guess and postulating that it simply tasted like crap.  A day has passed.  If it was a pill you would have ingested it by now and perhaps got told something, in which case you might have known pills digest.   Explain further how you came to find out how pills needed to be digested.

MORE IMPORTANT.  WHY WOULD YOU COP ME AND NOT BARNEY, BY FREAKING WAITING UNTIL HE POSTED "I AM ALIGNED WITH TOWN" AND THEN FORCING HIM TO EAT THE YELLOW PILL, SINCE AT THE TIME YOU SUPPOSEDLY DIDN'T KNOW IT NEEDED A DAY TO INGEST.

I want your full claim along with what the red and blue pill do, since if you are telling the truth it is likely scum will kill you tonight since you have a cop check attached to you.  I want you to pass the blue pill to me to make sure you have it. 

Other things.

I see no reason why Capt.Li can't name his neighbor, or the neighbor not wanting to name himself.

If bardiche is lying about the roleblock then bardiche is scum.  It's possible he claimed to be RBed to get town off his tail if he thought he was going to get lynched the next day.  It's a ballsy move, but possible.

I have not looked into the recent cases against barney, but I still have a town read of barney and find this kind of vote swing suspect. 

Once Duffbeer said post "you are aligned with town" It was pretty obvious that looked like a cop-check.   I was expecting to be cleared to-fucking-day.
 

[Ryuki]

Yeah, a lot of things just don't make sense.

I knew it was a cop of some sorts, hmm? The whole point of what I'm doing is because I have no idea what he's up to. Yes, it's some sort of rolecop. Is it purely a rolecop? What the hell is he doing with it, considering he hasn't given his result for Alpha yet? The fact that Duff Beer refuses to explain any of this is just annoying. I'm not trying to milk him for info, I'm legitimately curious. I obviously don't have a problem putting myself to such a test. Actually, yeah, apparently what I'm doing is stupid/scummy or something, so whatever, I'm doing it.

I find Krabs scum for D1 inactivity? What happened to everything else I accused him for, disappeared into thin air? Also, did Krabs just pull a huge OMGUS or am I blind? "I'm starting to doubt my read oh wait, wait, yep, done. Die scum."

[Ryuki]

I am aligned with town

[Kiva-la]

I'm voting you for making a horrible case on me. You barely even read my posts by the looks of it. You were just trying to throw whatever you could at me. It's like your just trying to discredit me instead of convincing other people I am scum. That vote post had two paragraphs related to me, they both mentioned activity levels. If you can make a case without using activity levels, then that would be nice.

Oh yeah, I just remembered.
OH NO BARNEY WAS ABSENT FOR SO LONG AND I WAS SUSPECTING HIM HMMM... THIS JUST ISOLATED MY BAD SUSPICIONS OF HIM. HEY LOOK HE FINALLY POSTED OH WAIT IT ISN'T THAT EASY TO UNDERSTAND. ALL I'M SEEING FROM HIS D2 IS A BAD CASE SO FAR. WITH MY SCUM!BARDICHE READ WEAKENING, BARNEY IS ALMOST OBVIOUSLY MY WORST.

[Kiva-la]

Hey Barney, take a look at this.
This was something you said late D1. But I edited it to fit me.

"He's not posting" Has a possible thought crossed your mind that, just maybe, I wasn't online? Maybe there are timezones in play? Now I'm online, so now I'm posting. "He hasn't contirbuted anything for the last x hours" also falls into the same category: I wasn't around. Why am I getting voted for it?

[Kiva-la]

If you're still wondering why I go with this over Bardiche, it's the fact that Krabs was much more active in parts of the game in comparison, and that I find Krabs' weird behavior harder (read: much harder) to explain. Also, Bardiche claimed his supposed role and claimed to be RB'd. Krabs hasn't really done anything, making Bardiche easier to link stuff to when stuff pops up.

Just take a look at this. There are three reasons why you're voting me over Bardiche.
1. I was much more active in parts of the game in comparison to him.
2. You find my weird behaviour harder (read:much harder) to explain.
3. Bardiche claimed some role related stuff and I didn't so it's easier to pin stuff on him when stuff pops up.

Here are my responses.
1. Look at my previous post.
2. Weird behaviour is not exclusive to scum. Townies are weird too.
3. I didn't claim any role related stuff because A) I wasn't asked/didn't need to, and B) Because Merryweather said she didn't want anymore claiming for now.

This really makes me wonder why you're still voting me over Bardiche.

[Kiva-la]

Just for you, I read over your posts again. Where does this show?

WOW YOU REALLY DID READ MY POSTS DIDN'T YOU? I'M SO AMAZED BY YOUR READING ABILITY!

Duff Beer I think should definitely post some more content, as all he seems to be doing now is just throwing some pills and eating others. You said you know the effects of the primary colours and basic combinations thereof. By "combinations" do you mean that they have the effects of two different primary colours, or completely different effects? Other than that I don't really have any other problem with him, but I have a gut read of scum on him, even thought it's not that strong.

I never actually said that I thought Duff Beer was scum in that post either. I only said that I had a gut read on him, which isn't a solid opinion of my thoughts. I think he is probably town, with scum gut read.

He was tunneling on Duff Beer quite a lot which means he was either A) Bussing if Duff Beer is scum, or B) Tunneling and/or setting up a mislynch for Duff Beer if he was town.
And I'm currently leaning towards B.