Vanilla Mafia II (Game over, town wins!)

[ActionDan]

>Votecount

D1 looks like a choice between me and Schezo.  I haven't read Schezo's posts fully (I skimmed, along with Omba's) aside from his case post on me and PX.  He reads like
sailor moon.  I happen to think that Schezo isn't doing the usual "scumhunting" because he's divesting all his time into Omba's barrages of posts.  In my experience it's hard to refrain
from getting sucked in to this kind dialogue, when you are expected to "answer everything!"  If I have to, I will switch, in typical not-me over me fashion, but I am no where near sold
on Schezo and I don't like his lynch.

Omba link the relevant posts for me to read that you feel are fluffly and I'll get back to you on that.

As far as scumpicks go, I fell quite good about PX as scum still.  I am getting wary of BT and Dormio for sneaking onto my wagon, with BT voting me for thinking that "if one of Pesco/Schezo scum  ==> the other is town"
and Dormio's anger at me for simply going "Schezo posts a lot  ===> town."  I did expect anger because I couldn't care less when I typed that, but it doesn't tell me why Dormio thinks I'm scum.

With two scum in the game, I don't understand why people are dying to hear MULTIPLE suspects from people as if fewer = scummier.  I have town reads on Omba and Job, and to a lesser extext, Hw, and I am leaning town on Pesco too.

(Also for some reason, I can't word wrap [words I type are moving off screen and I can't see], anyway to fix this?)
 

[ActionDan]

O ya.  The Pesco/Schezo aren't scum together. DWI

[BT]

You said you got wary of me and then explained why I voted for you, but... without explaining why you're wary of me. If I did something wrong by voting you, or if my logic is bad, feel free to tell me.

[ActionDan]

I think your reason is weak.   You are voting me solely for "if one of Pesco/Schezo scum  ===> the other is town, A.k.a they aren't scum together"?  Tell me if this is not the case.  Also you can update your case if you want.

[BT]

Guess I thought you were implying that "if one of them is town--> the other is town", which is usually a set-up. That's why I voted, not because I think they both might be scum or something. If that's the case...

##Unvote
##Vote Schezo

[BT]

**if one of them is town--> the other is scum

whoops

[J.O.B]

I happen to think that Schezo isn't doing the usual "scumhunting" because he's divesting all his time into Omba's barrages of posts.  In my experience it's hard to refrain
from getting sucked in to this kind dialogue, when you are expected to "answer everything!"

I thought this all along too. I just couldn't put it into words.

I too thought that what you said about Pesco/Schezo scum implied (or explicitly stated, I forget) that if one was town, then we should lynch the other. But that neccesarily isn't always the case, as they could both be town.
In my personal opinion I think Schezo is leaning town and I'm not too sure of Pesco yet.

And about multiple suspects, no matter how many scum there are it's always good to have multiple suspects if any of them turn out to be town.

Oh, and I forgot to clarify that I actually do think Omba could be scum.

[BT]

By the way, I'll be away for the next 24 hours, I'll answer any questions when I get back.

[Kitten4u]

Dormio (0):
huh what (0):
BT (0):
Bardiche (1): Serela
Omba (2): Schezo, JOB
Pesco (1): Shadoweh
Schezo (5): Pesco, huh what, PX, Omba, BT
Serela (0):
ActionDan (2): Hero999, Dormio
PX (2): ActionDan, Bardiche
Hero999 (0):
JOB (0):
Shadoweh (0):

Not Voting:

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.  D1 ends in ~33 hours (watch countdown)

Schezo is at L-2!

[Omba]

Opinion on the Bardiche-Shadoweh incident: Unless someone convinces me otherwise, the mod proved the conversation about the ratio to be true, so I tend to believe that Shadoweh is town. Yes, there's a chance that this is all a set-up, but since you people want me to drop my reasons for "not going with my gut" and just plain go with my gut, that's what I'll be doing. About Bardiche, I do agree that the prolonged argument about the ratio was a bit non-town-like, but I don't think it was TOO long like some others noted. I really do think that Bardiche was doing it out of town-ish concerns and stopped a bit too late, so: town.

Town, unless I get convinced that the ratio thing was a set-up.

What. What does any of that have to do with Shadoweh being town or not. That she told us about the setup doesn't tell us anything about her alignment, unless maybe if she lied, which she didn't.
Lolwaffle on Bardiche. So it was kind of non-town-like, but you think he did it out of a townie tought process? Why was it non-town-like when you don't think it was too long? What exactly was non-town-like about it?

@Pesco: The reason I voted him wasn't because Bardiche is being town, it was because of him dragging out the Shadoweh modconfirm in scum numbers. Did you yourself think that a modconfirm was all that was needed to end the discussion on that matter? I know I did. I think he has some hidden motive that is probably anti-town. So he kept on attacking Shadoweh because she was an easy target.

How is asking probing questions indicative of being anti-town? That's like completely backwards and only makes sense if you already assume Bardiche is scum beforehand.

Also I'm not really liking Omba's attitude towards Schezo. He keeps relentlessly attacking Schezo for not doing scumhunting, but I don't think Omba has any other real scum suspects
other than Schezo. Surely if you were scumhunting you would have more suspects, right? It's like scum is going for an easy target while not paying much attention to the rest of the game. Then with your latest 7(I think) posts, you appear to be all over the place, responding to several people and asking questions to others. I seriously have no real idea who you acually suspect other than Schezo.
Just saying this: Does not cut it. You've stated your possible scumpicks, but you haven't stated your reasons. I can't be sure if you really suspect them or not if you don't say why *hint* *hint*.
This is enough for me to warrant a vote.

Are you kidding me? Did you actually read my posts? W/e, reasons in short.
PX: I made a fucking case on him here and voted him for it, he hasn't posted anything since. Guess what my reason for naming him as a scumpick is.
ActionDan: Comment on him here and agreed with what Pesco already bashed him for, so refer to Pesco's post for more reasons.
Villain999: Pulled the same stunt as Schezo, only he chose to directly go for parroting instead of fluff. Compare this post of his with Pesco's directly above it. Tell me what's new. Then consider that that's most of what he'd done up to that point apart from a few questions about RVS, all but one of which had already been asked by others (this post: the one to serela is a repeat of mine; pudding stuff already asked by Shadoweh; question to huh what was new) and talking the setup stuff. It's nice that he at least somehow tried to actually ask questions, but it shouldn't have been limited to one fucking short post about RVS stuff and one more with a little probing to BT. Still the one of the three I want to lynch the least.

Tunneling. Which is obviously scummier than what I had pinned Bardiche for.

:V :V :V
Yeeessssss, I tunneled so much the light at the end of the tunnel got scared and ran away. Now I'm stuck in this tunnel and everything is black. I'll be forced to tunnel forever.
Except for the part where I fucking bash 3 other people apart from Schezo and ask questions to more people still. How the hell is this tunneling? Because I preferred to answer whatever Schezo said to me before I got to other people? Uh, yes, that makes so much sense. Oh wait it doesn't.


Will get to the stuff on page 6 next.

[Bardiche]

Name one thing Shadoweh could have done with the information besides sharing it, please.

If you mean "besides sharing it and suggesting we lynch the towniest people", then I'd say use it at a later juncture when scum tries to pull 3-scum-teams after one of their members get lynched, making Town look for a phantom scum. Does that sate your curiousity?

Did you ever give an example of what Shadoweh could do? Not that I know of. Surely the mod comfirmation was enough information of what Shadoweh was saying?

See above for the first, and for the second part... I guess this is due to me being vague with words. I'll do my best to clarify. When I said this:

I voted Shadoweh because I felt throwing in information, then sitting back and doing nothing with it was scummy. Pay attention, my vote on her isn't "Lol Shadoweh knows more OMG", it's "Shadoweh provides information and does jack shit with it".

I actually meant

I voted Shadoweh because I felt throwing in information, then sitting back and doing nothing with it was scummy. Pay attention, my vote on her isn't "Lol Shadoweh knows more OMG", it's "Shadoweh provides information and does jack shit with it".

The distinction is vague and-- no, sorry, I can't keep this up. Why are you pushing the idea that I'm voting Shadoweh for knowing more when that wasn't the thing I pressed her for, and why do you pretend voting her and demanding explanations is the same as chiding someone for a specific course of action when there were no better alternatives available? I've answered your questions, I'd like to hear what else was on the table at the time.

BT still does this thing where he's fencesitting and not taking strong to a conviction. Offering to change votes multiple times, cheerleading the Schezo wagon until chided for not voting his top scum pick and then voting Schezo based on GUT! isn't something I like, and I can already tell this game will involve me headdesking a lot due to the copious amounts of green-coloured scum. That is to say I think BT's just newbiederping but not being scummy right now.

I did say he should have tried to find something worth asking about if he didn't have anything he wanted to add to the current issues.

If Schezo couldn't find anything, does your case then change? Is he still scum for prioritising making his presence known over simply lurking?

Tunneling. Which is obviously scummier than what I had pinned Bardiche for.

You're voting Omba for tunneling after he made a wall of posts responding to everyone else and pointing at things? Really?

Dormio, are you seriously voting Dan for having a singular case on PX while you had up till then a singular case on BT?

Christ you all are scum, and I still dislike PX for keeping up his LURK LURK LURK SAY NOTHING OF VALUE for this long but I cannot stick to Lynch Lurkers this early in the game, can I? Can't have my cake, right?

People I like: Pesco, Omba
Everyone else: shades of grey or scum, I'm not sure which.

And of all people, I dislike Dormio most now.
##Unvote
##Vote: Dormio

You vote Dan for not having an opinion on the rest of the game or what Schezo posted. You yourself have had no such opinion either. By your own standards you are scum, and bandwagon hopping scum to boot. Care to clarify what you think about others not named BT or ActionDan? Similarly dislike the excuse for lurking. Lol DotS and forgetting Mafia exists indeed.

[J.O.B]

How is asking probing questions indicative of being anti-town?
PX: I made a fucking case on him here and voted him for it, he hasn't posted anything since. Guess what my reason for naming him as a scumpick is.
ActionDan: Comment on him here and agreed with what Pesco already bashed him for, so refer to Pesco's post for more reasons.
Villain999: Pulled the same stunt as Schezo, only he chose to directly go for parroting instead of fluff. Compare this post of his with Pesco's directly above it. Tell me what's new. Then consider that that's most of what he'd done up to that point apart from a few questions about RVS, all but one of which had already been asked by others (this post: the one to serela is a repeat of mine; pudding stuff already asked by Shadoweh; question to huh what was new) and talking the setup stuff. It's nice that he at least somehow tried to actually ask questions, but it shouldn't have been limited to one fucking short post about RVS stuff and one more with a little probing to BT. Still the one of the three I want to lynch the least.

I never said I voted Bard for probing questions. I only said I voted him for dragging out that discussion for longer than needed.
I completely forgot about the PX case, sorry. I can give you that as a good case.
Nice Action Dan case btw, oh wait that was meant for Pesco. You only really added like one bit of information. Try adding a little bit more into the mix to see what you can make. With that last sentence, it seems as if you wanted to elaborate further but didn't have anything to go on. Perhaps now would be a good time to try?
Hero999(because Hero is much more catchy than Villian): Okay, I see what your views are on him. They make sense to me, I'll give you that.
You still look suspicious in my eyes though, so if I were you, I would try and make that better. (and be a little less aggressive too)

@Bardiche: Did you think that the mod confirmation on the setup was enough to dismiss that matter?

[PX]

Postin to say that yesterday I felt like complete shit, what with 2 hours of sleep and morning class after staying up all night to write a paper :|

I'm rested now and ready to post! After my next class, so I'll be back in maybe 2 hours :|

[Schezo]

Yeah, you just scared me away, no duties I had to take care of.  GJ

Omba's 128 case on me:
1. fine
2. How does hypocrisy feel? 

Then you go ahead with the post you just made and do the same things you just called me out on.

Your response to my request:

Durrr... :V
What do you get when after picking something apart, there's nothing left? Right, a lack of something. These lines are not tacked on, they're the conclusion I've reached from the posts you made and the answers you gave me.

I didn't know stopping to answer your questions was scummy, especially when NO ONE HAD FUCKING POSTED on our spat at that time. 
Again, let's go back to this quote

It's like a fucking marry-go-round.

I mostly was waiting on HW to get his bitchass in here and weigh in on what he thought of our 1v1 earlier, being that he was instumental to getting my wagon going and everything but no, he's content to just lurklurklurk lurk this shit out.  Did I want to go back and make content on people after I already posted and dear God get called for backtracking.  No, not when our 1 on 1 was going because I wanted to form a more solid opinion on people, and what they thought of our thing, since it's one of the most serious and drawn out things that has happened all day.  A few have posted about it now let's get to that in a sec.

... Seriously? You're not seeing the difference between a) your only content post consisting mostly of things that have already been stated by others, just reworded and without any attribution to the original source and b) making a comment with a bit of added stuff and referring to the original source; while that comment is only a little part of the whole content made by the person? You do notice you used your post in question to get your vote on someone, while I made a comment in passing between the other stuff I was writing about, right? Hell, if you thought ActionDan was the most suspicious person and you really had absolutely nothing further you could add to the case or ask him, great, happens, vote the one you find most suspicious, it's what you should do. It won't be as bad if you make up for it by searching for other interesting things you can add to anything. You didn't. Hence you get the big stick.

No, look at your entire 121 and tell me it's not just copied.  The only thing you added was an advice remark to Job and Dan, and that's it.  What it's fine now since Pesco said it and you give him credit?  Then what in the fuck is the point if you're reposting  JUST to make so fucking noise?
Argh, the reason it's driving me up the wall is that your case on me is built on "Schezo made noise and nothing else" and then you proceed to make a post that mirrors this and screams hypocrisy to my ears.  It's why it's bothering me so much that your backing it up. 

I already did when I indirectly stated that the assumption you're making here is false. You're making it sound like those were the only two other options you had. Which is not the case.
I said do something useful. If nothing useful is immediately apparent, try to think of something. You can't go claiming miller in a vanilla game, but it's not like you have to take measures that drastic.
Actually, just read my answer to Bardiche directly above your post.
Side note: You had no issues with basically parroting Pesco to get the chance to vote anything. I don't know why you would have a bigger problem with doing that at the end of RVS. Well, there's some possible explanations for it but that's not the point here.

This is why I was adamant about you quoting where you're pulling your facts from.  I'm not going to read between the lines just to get an indirect answer that you can claim false on.  I want a straight one.  For this:
No, that was the case you presented on me and what I could do:
-Force something on someone when I didn't find anything not already said to pursue
-lurk
I kid you fucking not that's what you did.  And now I have your direct answer that you did indeed.
So, in your response to Bardiche that you told me to look at, I think I've garnered what you're doing that making me insane.
I taking from this, you're only looking at the logical aspects of the game and it has to be cut and dry, townie does this scum does that.  I don't think you're taking into account grey areas and exceptions which are always bound to come up in this game.
I look faulty in all ways on paper.  I was thinking your engagement with me earlier was just a prod to try and see my emotional side and if that was scum or not. 
So I've drawn from this that you either aren't taking emotions into account and writing up the black and white case that's easy to see or you find me fraudulent. 
Anyways the omgus on you was heat of passion even if I deplore your reasoning.
##Unvote:

I'm going to get this out there and post the scumz reads like now.

[Schezo]

BT wants me to break his face in or something "Sup gaiz, Putan Schezo at L-2 with no explaining and won't be back to answer questions until tomorrow"
Yes please I want you to explain this even if it's 20 or something hours from now.

Action Dan:
What on Earth are you talking about?
We're only halfway into the day and you're already setting up a not me over me thing.  What?  And I want to know where this town read on HW is coming from since he's been content to lurk his the fuck out of all the current drama going on.

Dormio there is so much fucking disconnect in your 148, one suspect post, that I'm ready to kill you now.  What do you think of everything else that's happened?

Villain999: What are you on?
First, if you're convinced I'm scum why are you just cheerleading me on instead of FOSing or voting me (which would have been appropriate) at the time you take potshots at me?  It's stronger that the stuff you're throwing on Dan. ("Bad feelings" as opposed to "I'm quite sure you're scum")
This is not taking into account that your meta case is a bunch of BS and your "he ain't tryan" just tacked on parroting.
And here's the answer to the question you would already have answered if you would read what I write:

It's like a fucking marry-go-round.
You asked the most reasonable question to pursue out of pudding nonsense or Shadoweh's mod thing.  I was waiting for that Shadoweh one.  Gracious fuck.

##Vote: Villlain999

[Schezo]

##Vote: Villain999

[J.O.B]

Why vote twice? I'm sure you meant to unvote instead.

[Schezo]

##Vote: Villlain999

##Vote: Villain999

Nope, misspelled his name in my first vote.

[Serela]

Making a "I'm here" post because I think time for me to get prodded was like, between fifteen minutes ago and five minutes from now.

But I'm home from school and reading up and stuff! So a real post will come soon.

[Pesco]

Can you morons just make the content post without making the 'I'm here' one? Do not respond to me.

[Pesco]

I'm missing Dan's response to my 137.

Waiting on Neo and PX's updates.

Still need to hear from HW and Shadoweh.

[ActionDan]

A winner is me!

Schezo:  I honestly thought I had more votes on me.  I think I did have 4 at one point with your and BT's previous votes, and with 36 hours left, a 4 vs 5 bandwaggon is good enough to decide the day's lynches..  There is anti-dan sentiment floating around with Pesco and Ombadisliking me.
I will never make lurking into a scumtell ever.  I refuse (it's just my way).  I may factor "posting a lot ~= town"  if the posts aren't bad and I see towny stuff flowing whether I agree with them or not.
Even from the small amount of posts HW has made, I get town vibes from them, which makes for a "better than neutral read." 

Schezo, I like your reads, even if I'm a little biased because you dislike the people voting me.  I'm waiting for a PX post, but I am amenable to lynching Dormio in particular.
  I was not thrilled by Dormio's earlier questioning of BT, but at the time I had an inkling that it was hyper-agressive town Dormio.  The only problem is that with Dormio's vote on me, there isn't an update of opinion of BT, as would be expected.
This is sort-of why Hero in Diablo was scummy.  I think the same phenomenon is occuring here as well.

Pesco cut.  Let me look over your 137 now.

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

Similarly dislike the excuse for lurking. Lol DotS and forgetting Mafia exists indeed.

I said I'd be busy until the week ended, bro.
Anyway.

Why Dan is scum 101, let's reiterate edition.
#94: As Pescar says in #95, dislike how he just states that he likes Omba's vote and copies it, giving no reasoning of his own at all.
In addition, dislike how he randomly proclaims both Omba and huh what as town.
As well as the whole "if one of Pesco/Schezo are scum, the other is town".
Despite the fact that he says later in #151 that you don't necessarily need to have many suspects as there are only two scum, yet by making the statement that "if one of Pesco/Schezo are scum, the other is town", you're implying that one of them is scum without a real case.

#133: Clears Schezo based purely on activity? What?
Really, out of everything that happened there, you're going to clear Schezo based on the fact that he posted a lot in order to respond to people and leave it at that?
You even say that it sounds like Schezo is getting his priorities muddled, but you simply ignore it.
At this point, your only case is on PX for his ED1 behaviour. Nothing about the rest of the game?

#150/151/153/171: For some reason it just seems like to me that these posts accomplish nothing. It's all just Dan defending himself.

(Also for some reason, I can't word wrap [words I type are moving off screen and I can't see], anyway to fix this?)

Try refreshing the "Post reply" page a couple of times. Worked out for me and Trance.

[ActionDan]

Perhaps clarity is needed.

PX going "bandwaggons" at every opportunity looks forced.  My interpretation is that PX is trying his bestest to show town that this game he is just like usual;
he is having fun trying to create bandwaggons like he always does.  The reaction he may expect from town is "Oh, that's just town PX playing for the lols." 
I don't see any indication that he thinks the people he's "bandwaggoning" are scum. 

This is why I think PX is likely scum.

[Serela]

"Okay I'm going to post in mafia now!" "*Spends 30 minutes ranting in GoS thread*" welp

Can you morons just make the content post without making the 'I'm here' one? Do not respond to me.

I didn't want to have to get prodded ;_; Otherwise yeah I wouldn't have. Also I'm assuming the "Do not respond to me" was just like "Don't make another useless post with no content" and yeah moving on to that content now

...I'm having one of those days where I read the topic three times over and get nothing. This usually happens for me, on D1 :c Bleh. All I can think is "Gee I'd sure like to hear from PX and Huhwhat and Shadoweh.". To make this easier on myself so that I might actually come up with something, I went through and made a list of People I don't Feel Like Lynching Today (Probably for dumb reasons), People I don't Remember Having Any Sort of Opinion About, and People Who Are Lurky Plus Dormio. I'm not sure why Dormio is in the last category along with PX and Huhwhat. I guess my gut hates him. I'll go reread Dormio (again) and some of the three who are in the middle section! Maybe I'll get somewhere now.

Okay! My gut hates Dormio but I'm not sure why I would actually vote him, so. Reading Villain999 just gives me that feeling where I don't really understand what words mean anymore. And the other two people (Pesco/JOB) I decided I don't want to lynch today either.

oh and now the middle section of the list is gone and there is a "People I don't Feel Like Lynching Today" and then Huhwhat/PX/Dormio/Villian999 but I don't actually know who I want to vote because I'm not sure which I think is actually scummy, partially because two of them haven't posted in a long time and one of the others I can barely even interpret his posts for whatever reason.

This really isn't going well for me.

I'm going to take a nap and come back later after those people have posted. I feel sleepy after looking at mafia for an hour and a half. ...dear god this post is useless. :c

[Pesco]

^ Proof that people don't follow instructions.

Update your vote. Is Bard still scum? Would you vote one of Schezo or Dan at the moment? Is a Dormio lynch going to be viable today?

[ActionDan]

Try refreshing the "Post reply" page a couple of times. Worked out for me and Trance.

That worked! thanks.

@Pesco, In my mind, I keep thinking you dislike me more than Schezo, even though your vote is on Schezo.  Considering I think Schezo is looking town and that I have posted answering your questions, it would be nice to hear an update of opinions from you. (possibly your doing this as I type)

@Dormio
I think your case doesn't fly.. in that I don't think it's an honest to goodness case at all, but just IioA.

#94: As Pescar says in #95, dislike how he just states that he likes Omba's vote and copies it, giving no reasoning of his own at all.
In addition, dislike how he randomly proclaims both Omba and huh what as town.
As well as the whole "if one of Pesco/Schezo are scum, the other is town".
Despite the fact that he says later in #151 that you don't necessarily need to have many suspects as there are only two scum, yet by making the statement that "if one of Pesco/Schezo are scum, the other is town", you're implying that one of them is scum without a real case.

I mostly had GUT back then

Spoiler:

(and a tantalizing idea to post a la [Redacted].  Sadly that style just doesn't suit me)

that I have since put into words.  You may dislike if I think people are town, but that doesn't tell me why you think I'm scum.  Also I never implied one of Pesco/Schezo is scum.  IF ONE IS THOUGH, THEN THE OTHER IS CLEAR.  Why? Because Scum Pesco would never call his scum buddy scum based off FPMH.

#133: Clears Schezo based purely on activity? What?
Really, out of everything that happened there, you're going to clear Schezo based on the fact that he posted a lot in order to respond to people and leave it at that?
You even say that it sounds like Schezo is getting his priorities muddled, but you simply ignore it.
At this point, your only case is on PX for his ED1 behaviour. Nothing about the rest of the game?

#150/151/153/171: For some reason it just seems like to me that these posts accomplish nothing. It's all just Dan defending himself.

Schezo posting a lot like that is a rarity.  I don't see scum schezo posting like that ever, so yes, I couldn't call him scum from those posts.  Schezo did get his priorites mixed up, but in a towny way, as I see it.  Seriously if I said nothing about the rest of the game where is all this IioA coming from :V. 

I am pretty sure people know where I stand.  That is an accomplishment I'm proud to hold.

I really am not sure what to say here.  Your posts conveys only what I've said or done, and not why it's scummy.   Dormio, what do you think of the people I called town, especially Schezo?  Do you find good reasons to not consider them town? Or is me calling people town scummy in and of itself?  This is what is not clear to me in your case.

Leaving people to guess that is truely scummy because you don't put yourself out there, but rather leave others to pick up the pieces.

##Unvote
##Vote Dormio

[PX]

##Unvote
##Vote: Shadoweh

Shadoweh D1 wagon still going!

Real case: The announcing the set up is a null-tell, however, the thing that turns me off is how you tried to present it as making you Townie to everyone and throwing WIFOM at everyone. Your first real post is so annoying to read that I want to lynch you just for that format. And it's mostly "X did this. Town read", which leads to fluff to make it look bigger. And her vote, she's giving off a preferred vote simply because it would be "Voting a lurker on D1", and instead going with a weird suspicious gut vote on Pesco.

Was going to say stuff on Dan after reading but looks like Dormio did that for me. And I find the case agreeable. Also, you're "Bandwagons" case on me is just wrong. This was all during the early morning RVS crap. Really? Did you expect me to give a serious answer to "That leaves a question for PX and huh what, where's my chocolate pudding?" Also, I always jump on bandwagons during RVS because that's usually how town gets out of RVS. And who ever seriously thinks their RVS bandwagon is scum before serious posts happen?! I'd still like to see Shadoweh post first before I vote you though.

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[GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em]

And I want to know where this town read on HW is coming from since he's been content to lurk his the fuck out of all the current drama going on.

Busy with school + you guys are posting way too fucking much and I can't really parse anything. I'll get stuff done eventually.

[Pesco]

PX confirmed for idiot.

I am disliking Dan more than Schezo. I haven't switched my vote because I don't think it's time to let off the pressure on him. Perhaps Hero and other people can respond to his vote. I want to see if anyone else shares what I'm feeling from Schezo's last move.

@HW: There's posting too much pillows and there's posting a lot of content. I'd say we've got the latter and it's a good thing.