Author Topic: Graveyard Anonymafia - Game Over (Read 108170 times)

Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #150 on:** August 11, 2011, 11:40:10 AM »

I expect you to have that gut read in your first post on day 2 if you're still alive then.

Ryuki · « **Reply #151 on:** August 11, 2011, 12:59:25 PM »

Shiba's switch is certainly telegraphed to some extent, but I'm quite weary of Remi's switch. Remi, what do you think of Ayumu's Bogmire vote, and how does it affect your opinion of Ayumu?

Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #152 on:** August 11, 2011, 01:09:07 PM »

I think it's quite a valid point. Also a reason why Bogmire seems suspicious to me too. It doessn't affect my opinion much it just makes Ayumu seem a little more town.

W · « **Reply #153 on:** August 11, 2011, 01:23:38 PM »

I'll take that as an objection to me sleeping then. Goodie.

Necro: Please, PLEASE explain to me why 'too scummy to be scum' is such a -great- god damn reason that you want to shift the wagon onto someone who's intentions seem to thoroughly be to NOT. BE. HERE. at the given time and place that this is taking place. We -need- a majority and you're actively working to shift it in favor of someone you find thoroughly scummy. Not to mention you aren't even dismissing these intentions and saying you intend to come back to hammer if need be. It seems like you're trying to cover both possibilities of that vote and it's rather annoying. Do you believe Pamela is truly worse than Ayumu?

Shiba: I get you don't like that post, but I'd like to know more on why it's scummy than the flaws and factual errors in it. I may be simply too fatigued to think straight here but I'm not really seeing the scummy intention on what you pointed out.

My previous statement on Pamela stands as far as I'm concerned, and I'm not really sold on this case at the moment. I'm going to stick with what I wanted to do earlier and vote ayumu, without the sleeping after. I'll still be here to deadline. ##Unvote, ##Vote: Ayumu

Kiva-la · « **Reply #154 on:** August 11, 2011, 01:27:17 PM »

I'm left almost speechless really.

I have a demand to make: Those who are voting Ayumu, or have previously voted Ayumu, please state for the record why you think he is scummy. I have not been so blinded as to see that most people seem to be voting him (or voted for him) due to wishy-washy reasons. As for people who I think are closest to what I think is scummy about ayumu, I can only name Munak and Mean Ghost Girl. Answering this would also help a lot to make reads now and later. Also Ayumu, I would like you to address one of Munak's particular concerns, a question about why you didn't immediatly state your true reason for voting Remilia and instead provided a joke reason first.

It's amazing to me that Pamela has been absent 2 days and came up with terribad post that looks like it gleaned off a scum QT. Unless you are hoping that we are going to subtract you. Still, I perfer a Ayumu lynch, even though my gut is heaving in turmoil.

This goes without saying, but Bog, post and vote!

I am going to reread Youmu, Shiba, Necro, Sid, Remilia, Shoe. (Bathory's one content post is still quite vivid to me)

First impression of Necro's post looks like something the Comedian would write in MHM. (Don't worry you aren't insta-scum, but I think there is something fishy)

Kabuto · « **Reply #155 on:** August 11, 2011, 01:30:46 PM »

@Arcueid
It's scummy because it's utilizing a bad case to jump on the biggest bandwagon. As far as I can see, he doesn't really give any justification behind his preferred lynch either. I suppose Ayumu is similar in the bad case and bandwagon hopper aspect, but interestingly enough he actually has more presence than Pamela, who has come up with her one post after lurking through the entire day.

Kabuto · « **Reply #156 on:** August 11, 2011, 01:35:45 PM »

Quote from: Arcueid Brunestud on August 11, 2011, 01:23:38 PM

Necro: Please, PLEASE explain to me why 'too scummy to be scum' is such a -great- god damn reason that you want to shift the wagon onto someone who's intentions seem to thoroughly be to NOT. BE. HERE. at the given time and place that this is taking place. We -need- a majority and you're actively working to shift it in favor of someone you find thoroughly scummy.

Whoops, forgot to add this in.
I understand the last part of the Necro paragraph, but this first half confuses me. What are you trying to say here?

Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #157 on:** August 11, 2011, 01:40:42 PM »

@mod:How long till deadline?

Kiva-la · « **Reply #158 on:** August 11, 2011, 01:41:16 PM »

>V-V-Votecount!

W · « **Reply #159 on:** August 11, 2011, 02:02:05 PM »

Quote from: Kūkaku Shiba on August 11, 2011, 01:35:45 PM

Whoops, forgot to add this in.
I understand the last part of the Necro paragraph, but this first half confuses me. What are you trying to say here?

It may be the fact my brain is slowly shutting the fuck down but what you want me to clarify is poorly defined, and I really wish you would stop playing quote games and ask about statements directly, as that is a chunk including a bolded chunk that all could qualify as the first half of the necro paragraph and i'm not sure what you want me to explain here. I'll explain all of it to make sure I get it.

I am implying that Necro is currently motioning to start a wagon in the wee few hours that remain in this day, towards Pamela, with that vote. I'm pretty sure you still vote to try and get someone lynched in this game so I am acting on the belief that he was trying to reinforce and build Pamela's wagon to lynch. This is a movement that would benefit Ayumu, someone that he has stated several times he has not seen better, but infact worse, claiming 'too scummy to be scum' and he would still be very much willing to hammer and lynch. He is also doing this on someone who I'm pretty sure intended to go to sleep and sleep through deadline, therefore isn't really here to answer.

If I didn't answer what you were confused on please tell me.

Kabuto · « **Reply #160 on:** August 11, 2011, 02:06:23 PM »

Not trying to play quote games with you; it looked like you were attacking Necro for trying to shift the wagons towards someone he thought was scummy, which is what.

But your clarification makes more sense to me now.

Ryuki · « **Reply #161 on:** August 11, 2011, 02:17:02 PM »

@Arecuid:

It seems that you did not read my case on Pamela; of course I do find her scummy and I went into painstaking detail as to why. It's just that I always had the impression that scum would want to lay low most of the time instead of making a fool of themselves, and due to the lack of bandwagon analysis and the monotony of reasons to vote someone on D1, I'm willing to select Pamela instead of Ayumu on top of all the various objective reasons already presented due to the difference in noise they are making. As for the accusation that I'm dancing between bandwagons, I don't think it's really wrong to be okay with two separate lynches, especially when I clearly prefer one over the other, which facilitates judgment depending on the flip tomorrow.

Arecuid, I am very interested to know why you are so fiercely opposed to the Pamela lynch, and why I'm (by your post) supposed to take the full brunt of an opposing bandwagon instead of Remi and Shiba. Also, your blurb on Pamela beforehand, below

Quote

Pamela's latest post...is well, I believe I agree it kind of looks like a blatant hop. It's basically a god damn cliffhanger to be continued on with for Day 2. As in, it literally reads as if they intend to sit on that vote until day 2 and then pull out some big fancy continuation. I find Day 1 as rather pointless and annoying as the rest, but I -really- hate people who try to skip entire days and set themselves up to actually start playing. I'm going to give you your presumed next post, but I expect to see that followed by many other actual posts, if you wish to remain on this im...whatever the fuck we're on coil.

has no opinion on Pamela's alignment at all except that she's a lurker. Can you clarify for us why you find Ayumu scummier than Pamela, as Count suggests?

Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #162 on:** August 11, 2011, 02:40:35 PM »

I probably won't be around for the deadline. So I guess I will keep my vote where it is.

Ouja · « **Reply #163 on:** August 11, 2011, 03:28:38 PM »

Alright, listen up.

The Ayumu wagon was BAD.

This Pamela wagon is worse.

Kukaku and Necro are both scum.

Look on Page 5, at Kukaku's post where he calls Pamela's vote horrible, then puts a weak attack on me for "lurking" and then...

Doesn't VOTE.

Further, for people who are voting Pamela for "vote hopping", you should take a close look at Necro's vote on Pamela. Opportunism at its FINEST.

So yeah, Necro and KuKaKu are both scum. I'll give you more detail in my next post.

Ouja · « **Reply #164 on:** August 11, 2011, 03:34:59 PM »

Quote from: Kūkaku Shiba on August 11, 2011, 10:59:11 AM

Oh dear god, Pamela's latest post and vote is completely terrible.
Not only did this RVS-level case become outdated as soon as Ayumu posted again and essentially dropped this point by unvoting Remilia, but I don't see any indication that you tried to update this case with Ayumu's latest vote. Then there's an attempt at a Youmu case based on her attitude. :getdown:

In any case, let's clarify the case on Bogmire, yes?
In his first content post, he makes a few side comments on Necro and Remilia, and dislikes Ayumu and Reg. He drops Reg soon after, and could "stand to hear more from Ayumu." Where are the scumreads? Where are the opinions? His next post attempts to rectify this a little, but it's just what everyone else already said. As far as I'm concerned he has less content than friggin Ayumu at this stage.

Ayumu's latest response is facepalm worthy, but I don't think it's scummy. It looks more like general frustration at his wagon combined with an inability to make cases.

As for other people, I'm withholding judgement on Bathory until she follows up, but suffice to say I don't like her lack of content either. We also have a bunch of other lurkers; Sid, notably (because people seem to have forgotten him as opposed to the other lurkers), has a case on Remilia and almost nothing else (his next post is a query at Ayumu). Could you update your opinions Sid? I don't find you scummy, but I want to see how you've come along. There are way too many of you lurker jerks anyway (Necro and Shoe come to mind), so they can't all be scum; post more. I do have a gut vibe on someone else, but I don't think it's important enough to bring up today, and in any case I can always look into it tonight if it's still bothering me.

Let's look at what's wrong here.

People Kukaku attacks.

Pamela
Bogmire
Bathory
Necro
Lurkers

Let's look at who she votes in this post:

No one.

FURTHER, this is a bunch of cheap 1 liner bullshit that looks like content, but only serves as active fluff.

Looking at the Bogmire case. Well, if you want to CALL it a case. He accuses Bogmire of doing the EXACT SAME THING that Kukaku is doing.

But here's the thing: Kukaku attacked Bogmire for expressing a scum read of Shoe. It was retracted due to misunderstanding, but it WAS A READ.

Bogmire is town. And Kukaku is picking the easiest targets, but NOT ACTUALLY VOTING ANY OF THEM.

Kukaku/Necro are scum together. Kukaku's mention of Necro in this post is pure distancing.

Ouja · « **Reply #165 on:** August 11, 2011, 03:37:24 PM »

Quote from: Necro Gardna on August 11, 2011, 12:59:25 PM

Shiba's switch is certainly telegraphed to some extent, but I'm quite weary of Remi's switch. Remi, what do you think of Ayumu's Bogmire vote, and how does it affect your opinion of Ayumu?

Look at THIS interaction.

"It's ok for Kukaku to hop on this terribad wagon, but not for Remila!"

I mean, it's perfect for him! Remila is town, but is mislynch bait for scum. Necro is JUMPING at this chance.

Further, Necro's OWN Pamela vote was so terribad, he should be asking HIMSELF this question.

Ouja · « **Reply #166 on:** August 11, 2011, 03:40:12 PM »

In other words, Pamela is town. This wagon is bad, and you should all feel bad.

More votes on Shiba will lynch the scums.

Ouja · « **Reply #167 on:** August 11, 2011, 03:49:41 PM »

Oh, and Ayumu is town too. That wagon was ALSO bad.

Ryuki · « **Reply #168 on:** August 11, 2011, 03:50:37 PM »

It's not as if a few words can control the tide of the masses or anything and cause people to magically become mislynch bait. More than anything, it's how Remilia reacts to the question which is the main criteria for judgment.

As for Shiba's switch, I'll explain that her vote was on Bogmire before switching to Pamela, if I remember correctly, and not on Ayumu. Furthermore, here she does affirm that Ayumu isn't scummy despite her latest post, etc. Remi, in comparison, did not think of anyone other than Ayumu as scummy before the Pamela bandwagon came about, which made the switch suspect in her case.

Also, chasing ghosts and phantoms are for the living and not for the dead; I would prefer if you were to go for people independently as opposed to 'interactions' which may or may not be a trick of the eye. Lastly, I'm curious as to why you criticize the Ayumu wagon as bad only now when you had an opportunity to do so earlier.

If you had a choice between Ayumu and Pamela, who would you lynch? Also, what's wrong with my vote, and why do you leave Remi out of it despite her jump on the bandwagon?

Faiz · « **Reply #169 on:** August 11, 2011, 03:53:57 PM »

Is it just me, or does anyone else feel theres a subtle saying here that declares "I want the day to end faster"?

Quote from: Remilia Scarlet on August 10, 2011, 07:10:44 AM

Necro is suspicious to me because of all the reasons he used. Pretty much all of them could be summed up as "RVS and reasons" like everybody said.
His posts just seem like fluff to me and I think he needs to put something concrete down.
But IMO he seems a bit better now so that's why he's more neutral to me.

"I think he needs to put something concrete down."
...needs to put something concrete down.
...something concrete.
"concrete."
...what?
Mafia > Day 1 > Concrete...really now...?

Quote from: Remilia Scarlet on August 11, 2011, 11:40:10 AM

I expect you to have that gut read in your first post on day 2 if you're still alive then.

Are you sure you're not focusing on the wrong thing here?

Also, throughout the game you have only been answering questions and not asking it. Why?

Quote from: Remilia Scarlet on August 11, 2011, 05:59:56 AM

I never said that everyone else was town. I just said that they're looking townish to me. I haven't found anything really suspicious about them.
On to page 5.

..You say this but what the hell is this then.

Quote from: Remilia Scarlet on August 11, 2011, 01:09:07 PM

I think it's quite a valid point. Also a reason why Bogmire seems suspicious to me too. It doessn't affect my opinion much it just makes Ayumu seem a little more town.

You make this statement. So you are saying Bogmire is leaning town while he is suspicious to you?
Are you not contradicting yourself?

Quote from: Remilia Scarlet on August 11, 2011, 11:27:56 AM

If by "she" you mean Pamela. Then it's because of the lack of posts, the blatant wagon hop the lack of content and the fact that she appears to be trying to lay low to avoid suspicion.
So instead of Ayumu being better it's more that Pamela is worse.
Also what purpose?

While I can agree with the lack of posts, and the wagon hop, as well as the lack of content.
I can't agree with the trying to lay low to avoid suspicion.
Her no content post here is more likely a mindscrewing post rather then a lay low.

At the moment, I am still quite unwilling to let Remilia pass.

@Ayumu: I pointed you out specifically due to the fact that you had not posted an opinion of anyone else at the time. With you being a main suspect at the time, I rather have you get your opinions out as fast as possible, compared to others who were not as in danger of being lynched.

Quote from: Pamela Ibis on August 11, 2011, 05:19:32 AM

Hee hee. I bet you're actually a big softie on the inside~.

Arcy is town! I know this because Youmu suddenly went and buddied up to her early in the game. Youmu is a big meanie head, and she needs to stop yelling at people.

People keep picking on Gardnie for falling in line with the day's main lynch, but everyone else is being nice to Bog and Remilia for doing the same thing. Is there really something different between those cases that I don't know about? Or does everyone just want to keep picking on him so Youmu doesn't yell at them? I don't think Gardnie is a bad person. It looks like he was just confused earlier.
##Vote: Ayumu

* Pamela Ibis yawns
I'm getting tired...

So your claiming Arcuied is ?Town? due to Youmu ?Scum? buddying up to her?
If that is your only reason then I would probably join in your lynch.
There is alot of information you have to use, yet you merely state one plausible theory.

Quote from: Arcueid Brunestud on August 10, 2011, 08:32:42 PM

Sid seems to be throwing questions around and I'm somewhat incapable of getting where his reads are other than 'REMILIA IS SCUM'. I'd like it if he stopped playing interrogation and state something so we can actually understand -him-.

Am I to interpret this as telling me to stop grinding people for information?
@Ayumu is likely town to me, due to the fact that I've seen something similar happen to him before. With a post in the same direction.

@Remilia is either Follow-the-leader town, or wagons-yay scum, and I'm banking on the later at the moment.
Quite sure most of us can agree in Count is Town

@Pamella...is sort of leaning scum, but I can't determine it with just this post. It is near the end of day 1, so I personally can not say its wagon hopping.

@Youmu is overaggressive town, or camouflaged scum.
...
...
I know I'm missing something...

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #170 on:** August 11, 2011, 04:06:07 PM »

Ayumu Aikawa (5): Count von Count, Youmu Konpaku, Reg Shoe, Pamela Ibis, Arcueid Brunestud
Pamela Ibis (4): Munak, Necro Gardna, Kūkaku Shiba, Remilia Scarlet
Bogmire (1): Ayumu Aikawa
Elizabeth Bathory (1): Mean Ghost Girl
Kūkaku Shiba (1): Elizabeth Bathory
Remilia Scarlet (1): Sid Barett

Not Voting: Bogmire

No Lynch was reached. You have 30 hours to send in your night actions to both Edible and myself. Yes, 30, because I am just now realizing that having the end-of-day rush be when I'm asleep and can't post votecounts is fucking terrible.

Please do not post during the night phase unless your role allows you to do otherwise.

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #171 on:** August 12, 2011, 07:04:42 AM »

As a heads up, Kūkaku Shiba has been granted V/LA for the first 48 hours of Day 2 for specific reasons.

In other news, 15 or so hours remain in the night phase. Better send those actions in, if you haven't already.

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #172 on:** August 12, 2011, 08:25:14 PM »

On second thought, starting the day a hour and a half earlier because it's more convenient for me. I have everybody's actions, so.

Give me a second to send out result PMs.

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #173 on:** August 12, 2011, 08:29:27 PM »

Arcueid Brunestud, a Vanilla Townie, was killed overnight!

You have 72 hours left in the day. With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Den-O · « **Reply #174 on:** August 12, 2011, 09:16:59 PM »

Quote from: Sid Barett on August 11, 2011, 03:53:57 PM

Is it just me, or does anyone else feel theres a subtle saying here that declares "I want the day to end faster"?

I don't deny that I wanted the day to end sooner. Don't tell me that we needed the time for non-existant discussion. MotK Town has never made good of any given grace period. As we can see, No Lynch happened because of some shoddy logic in 'too scummy to be scum'. So here we are on Day 2 barely better off than Day 1.

Quote-striping since my last post.

Quote from: Bogmire on August 10, 2011, 07:08:27 PM

No, I do not currently have any major suspects other than Ayumu.

Why would you not have more suspects than just the popular wagon? It's your initiative to force information out of people if you aren't understanding what's going on. Not doing so is scummy.

Quote from: Kūkaku Shiba on August 10, 2011, 09:44:43 PM

You're right, I hadn't determined whether it was scummy or not. Because it's not scummy in and of itself! I was actually waiting for Ayumu to respond to my question, but he took fucking forever. And you know what? At this point I think he's more likely to be terrible town instead of scum. Not really in the scum MO to kick off a bandwagon in RVS with an empty vote and the lurk out the rest of the day to get a wagon started on themselves, is it? ~~I would also invoke meta here, but this is an anonymous game, so.~~

Did Ayumu have a valid reason to take forever to respond? Going by if we all know who is Ayumu, I don't think so. Ayumu is more than capable of making content posts if we call #118 one such. As for scum MO, it's unnecessary WIFOM for people to think about. Scum is capable of anything and everything, just look at the last game.

Quote from: Pamela Ibis on August 11, 2011, 05:19:32 AM

I think Ayumu is trying way too hard to make "Why me and not X" into a hard scumtell. I don't see how Remilia was trying to deflect attention to Youmu. What I see is Remilia trying to ask you a question. the same kinda question Gardnie asked Youmu.

I wanna bring Youmu over to full-death. It's much more fun here, and she really needs to loose up. But, it doesn't look like a lot of people agree with me on that. I think Ayumu should be our lynch because of what other people said, and because of what I said above.
##Vote: Ayumu

Nice to know but why did you not vote Ayumu in the same post as your unvote? Ayumu didn't post anything inbetween that could have changed your opinion. Pamela's vote had bussing potential. Too bad we didn't get to confirm that.

Quote from: Ayumu Aikawa on August 11, 2011, 09:09:07 AM

Since everyone is busy being QUIET, which does nothing but help the scum, guess I'll just RAGE at my wagon to see why I'm being voted.

Reg: Why you disappear? Looks like a good scum position to just vote the largest bandwagon and get out of dodge to secure a mislynch.

That's a pathetic bluff to open OMGUS with. My activity time is erratic. The mod hasn't needed to prod me and I've posted when I'm around. I don't think I was trying to hide my presence on your wagon when I called to attention that we need to finalize a lynch.

Quote from: Kūkaku Shiba on August 11, 2011, 10:59:11 AM

Ayumu's latest response is facepalm worthy, but I don't think it's scummy. It looks more like general frustration at his wagon combined with an inability to make cases.

As for other people, I'm withholding judgement on Bathory until she follows up, but suffice to say I don't like her lack of content either. We also have a bunch of other lurkers; Sid, notably (because people seem to have forgotten him as opposed to the other lurkers), has a case on Remilia and almost nothing else (his next post is a query at Ayumu). Could you update your opinions Sid? I don't find you scummy, but I want to see how you've come along. There are way too many of you lurker jerks anyway (Necro and Shoe come to mind), so they can't all be scum; post more. I do have a gut vibe on someone else, but I don't think it's important enough to bring up today, and in any case I can always look into it tonight if it's still bothering me.

Mind telling us what IS scummy then? Your stances don't seem that strong when you make that ready switch just a few posts later.

Quote from: Necro Gardna on August 11, 2011, 11:05:38 AM

##Unvote
##Vote: Pamela Ibis

I take issue with how this was the swing vote. Coming off the main wagon and onto a new one is a big enough swing that pretty much guaranteed a No Lynch. As I mentioned at the beginning of the post, 'too scummy to be scum' is a horrible fallacy and sheer laziness to analyze things out.

Quote from: Remilia Scarlet on August 11, 2011, 11:27:56 AM

If by "she" you mean Pamela. Then it's because of the lack of posts, the blatant wagon hop the lack of content and the fact that she appears to be trying to lay low to avoid suspicion.
So instead of Ayumu being better it's more that Pamela is worse.
Also what purpose?

Quote from: Kūkaku Shiba on August 11, 2011, 11:29:34 AM

Hmm, okay.
As for the other thing, stop asking. It's not important.

Blatant parroting and lack of scumhunting intent, Kukaku is perfectly fine with that?

Quote from: Remilia Scarlet on August 11, 2011, 01:09:07 PM

I think it's quite a valid point. Also a reason why Bogmire seems suspicious to me too. It doessn't affect my opinion much it just makes Ayumu seem a little more town.

You need to do better than this still and tell us WHY. Consider it asked to each sentence in your post.

Quote from: Count von Count on August 11, 2011, 01:27:17 PM

I have a demand to make: Those who are voting Ayumu, or have previously voted Ayumu, please state for the record why you think he is scummy.

I've dropped the keyword of voteparking a few times this game. Ayumu's votepark showed lack of scumhunting for one. Second, Ayumu was more than capable of being proactive, but chose not to be.

Quote from: Elizabeth Bathory on August 11, 2011, 03:49:41 PM

Oh, and Ayumu is town too. That wagon was ALSO bad.

You should be elaborating why.

I've forgot Mean Ghost and Bogmire were playing this game and would have forgotten Sid too, but I liked Soul Eater that I didn't. I have no problems with Sid's activity. Mean Ghost only made 2 posts if I'm remembering correctly here. Bogmire deserves lurker hate for being the non-voter at deadline.

Summarized suspect list from my post is Kukaku, Necro, Ayumu and Pamela. Remilia and Bogmire are outside shots still under consideration. I find Elizabeth's end of day attack on Kukaku more agreeable than her initial vote reason. Kukaku's positioning out of my top 4 is also the most central if interactions are considered.

##Vote Kukaku

Other unnamed people are town or null reads.

Kiva-la · « **Reply #175 on:** August 12, 2011, 09:56:20 PM »

Man o man do I like Reg's post. Almost everything lines up with exactly what I feel.

Not only that, his targets are the exact same ones I'd grill today. I don't have the time right now to write much more, but Necro/Shiba earn the most ire for derailing the Ayumu wagon off the tracks.

Mean Ghost Girl: I found your first few posts agreeable, but taking your name off the ayumu wagon to put it on Bathory did not sit well with me. The post itself didn't seem scummy, but it left me disappointed.

Ayumu: Even though I have never seen your person as Scum (although you have your own variety), I found it disturbing that people were willing to let you slide based on that meta. I still think you are a good scum candidate.

But really, I'd like to leave off where Arc did. That is, Shiba/Necro, please state you who think is scummy and why you switched to Pamela directly causing us to have a no lynch. Shiba, as far as I remember, you had less opinions on who you thought was scum than Necro. In fact I believe the only one you ever truely believed was scum was Pamela... based off one content post (which was arguably bad, but not anymore newbishly bad than Remilla/Bogmire Etc.)

Necro: Unlike Shiba, you thought Ayumu was scummy, more so than Remilia. This question carries extra weight for you. Why did you get off Ayumu, who perhaps you thought was only 2nd most likely to be scum, over to a fledgling wagon formed within a mere hours of the deadline?

I am waiting to see who you both vote for eagerly.

It's a close call but I'm going with Necro slightly worse than Shiba as of right now.
##Vote Necro Gardna

Kiva-la · « **Reply #176 on:** August 12, 2011, 10:27:01 PM »

Mean Ghost Girl: I just reread that Bathory vote and read this.

Quote from: Mean Ghost Girl

I see Ayumu has made a real post, now. It's... better! I'm still not consoled with his earlier actions, but I'm willing to move on for the moment, with the knowledge that I WILL definitely be returning by deadline to move my vote to wherever it may be needed.

That didn't happen. Why?

OOO · « **Reply #177 on:** August 12, 2011, 10:45:55 PM »

You know, master, I can fight pretty well for a dead girl...
... My pleasure is your pain..

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Munak is angry.
Munak wonders why Mr. Ayumu, Mean Ghost Girl, lady Bathory, Mr. Barett, and Bogmire could not move their vote to secure either lynch.
Munak especially dislikes lady Bathory.
Can lady Bathory explain to Munak and everyone else why Mr. Ayumu's lynch was a bad lynch?
Can lady Bathory also explain why miss Pamela's lynch was a bad lynch?
Can lady Bathory also explain why Necro Gardna's vote was so terrible?
Can lady Bathory tell Munak why lady Bathory would not go for either of the day's lynch targets when the sun was setting?
Can lady Bathory tell Munak why lady Bathory would actively try to eliminate the chance of a lynch occurring?

Mr. Barett, Munak wonders why Mr. Barett did not vote for miss Pamela.
Mr. Barett stated that Mr. Barett would have voted for miss Pamela had miss Pamela's post been her only content.
Munak is curious on what other content miss Pamela could have possibly had to dissuade Mr. Barett from voting for miss Pamela.
Munak wonders about this especially as the deadline was approaching fast.

Munak's opinion on miss Pamela has not changed.
Munak still wants miss Pamela to disappear from Munak's sight.

Munak wonders why Bogmire could not even bother to put down a vote.
Munak is not sure about what contributions Bogmire has made to us, if Bogmire has made any contributions at all.

OOO · « **Reply #178 on:** August 12, 2011, 11:02:09 PM »

You know, master, I am so much more stronger than you...

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Munak still dislikes Mr. Ayumu as well.

##Vote Pamela Ibis
##FoS Elizabeth Bathory
Munak would prefer to see one of the following die today.

DiEnd · « **Reply #179 on:** August 12, 2011, 11:24:10 PM »

I thought the deadline was three hours later and slept right through the end. :ohdear: I don't think I could have made a difference with how things went, but still. Lady Yuyuko I'm sorry!

So that end of day distraction was pretty horrible. The last time a group of entreprenuring individuals tried to do that we weren't in a majority lynch situation. I think it's worse that the same people didn't stick around to vote BACK onto the wagon in case their last second lynch didn't go through. The same experience leads me to believe that a wagon on anything but town wasn't going to spring up out of the blue. Not interested in Pamela right now.

I'm surprised, and by that I mean incredibly suspicious that Ayumu of all people wasn't here to try and support his/her/it's own alternate wagon and kept himself voteparked the entire time, even through his flailing. I'm going to reread and decide if the people who were effectively voting for no one are worse then the already-suspicious people that derailed any chance of a lynch today. At this rate 2000 Yojanas won't be enough to sort out the zombies!