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Re: Cavalier of the Abyss Mafia [Game Over, Town Wins]
« Reply #1170 on: July 24, 2011, 05:25:33 AM »
http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/6M2eWC4hpMRi

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Re: Cavalier of the Abyss Mafia [Game Over, Town Wins]
« Reply #1171 on: July 24, 2011, 05:33:50 AM »
I find it funny that Mala was town and that I actually did roleblock scum night 1, in spite of my logic being absolutely horrendous (as pointed out multiple times before my lynch).

I claim Orwen, by the way.

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Re: Cavalier of the Abyss Mafia [Game Over, Town Wins]
« Reply #1172 on: July 24, 2011, 05:36:58 AM »
Role Setup (abridged form because the role PMs are not entirely evident as to what the full roles are)

Town
- Book of the Past/Caladbolg (Conquerer): 1-shot Dayvig. Pierces all protections (One) and not roleblockable. Would change to Caladbolg and become Death Miller. At night, he can pick between certain orbs to find out that certain roles exist in the game.

- Mikhail/Regis Nex (ActionDan): Multi-shot reviver during the Day. Disabled during LYLO. Also a self-proclaim ability that turns him into Regis Nex and a Treestump. If Evocate is used during the Day cycle and he or his revived target is killed in that cycle, he will not Treestump. Will Treestump otherwise.

- Moonin (Zakeri): Modified Neighborizer

- Xix (PX): When targetted with a Night Action, he counter roleblocks the person. This makes him unkillable by Depore and Iffrita. Only Yuan, Caladbolg's vig, and lynching can kill Xix. The heart thing was a red herring.

- Prophet Mala (Dormio): Town Commuter (protects, roleblocks and makes action immune). This also differs from a traditional Jailer in that if she uses it on herself, 50/50 chance she succeeds or loses her power permenantly with a new power being able to post a 100 word anonymous announcement every Day/Night cycle.

- Demon Navarus (UncertainKitten): Can send a message at Night to a player which also serves as tracking that player. Can rolecop dead players.

- Princess Miya (Schezo with K4U mentor hydra): Alternating Tracker/Watcher

- One (Hero999): Bodyguard. If he protects someone two nights in a row, he gets a Sane Cop result. He would have found Book of the Past as green, Caladbolg as red. Also can bodyguard during the Day instead, but would have been effectively useless since Caladbolg's vig had priority.

- Sage Orwen (capt.h): Roleblocker and/or able to talk in the thread at Night. If he reveals his powers during Night Talk, he will receive one anonymous vote every Day for the rest of the game.


Scum
- Empress Iffrita (huh what): When going on the NK, she is kill-immune. Otherwise, flavor cop. Also, has 1 Self-Governor shot. Mod will reveal she self-governed if it occurred. Does not work in LYLO.

- Depore (J.O.B with Kilga mentor hydra/Kilgamayan): When going on the NK, she is untrackable (a ninja). Otherwise, can shadow a player and make that person immune to investigative roles.

- Yuan (Lady Lambdadelta with Dorian G. as observer hydra): When going on the NK, immune to investigations. Otherwise, is a Jailer. Has the highest roleblock priority in the game. She is also roleblock immune which allows her to NK Xix.


ITP
- Just (Shadoweh): Third Party Survivor, Omni-Tracker (tracks everyone at Night, roleblock immune), Can move a vote at Day Start. Auto Day 7 win-con (Just wins, everyone else loses) Just is also hated (lynched at L-1).
« Last Edit: July 24, 2011, 07:26:36 AM by Kiro »

Re: Cavalier of the Abyss Mafia [Game Over, Town Wins]
« Reply #1173 on: July 24, 2011, 05:38:32 AM »
I got 7/9. Thought Hero was Helepolis and thought Xix was Hourai (for some reason).

Re: Cavalier of the Abyss Mafia [Game Over, Town Wins]
« Reply #1174 on: July 24, 2011, 05:43:06 AM »
and thought Xix was Hourai (for some reason).


Re: Cavalier of the Abyss Mafia [Game Over, Town Wins]
« Reply #1175 on: July 24, 2011, 05:46:51 AM »

Don't mind me, I was just being a major derp. <_< I kind of assumed that PX wasn't playing.

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Re: Cavalier of the Abyss Mafia [Game Over, Town Wins]
« Reply #1176 on: July 24, 2011, 05:47:37 AM »
Oh yeah.

I told you all Moonin was town.
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Re: Cavalier of the Abyss Mafia [Game Over, Town Wins]
« Reply #1177 on: July 24, 2011, 05:48:13 AM »
I wrote an ENTIRE WALL telling everybody why One was the derp newbtown and why Depore was the overly opportunistic newbscum.

And nobody listened.

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Re: Cavalier of the Abyss Mafia [Game Over, Town Wins]
« Reply #1178 on: July 24, 2011, 05:49:45 AM »
: P
Also you guys bussing me was annoying.
Although it did help in late game.

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Re: Cavalier of the Abyss Mafia [Game Over, Town Wins]
« Reply #1179 on: July 24, 2011, 05:57:55 AM »
Thanks for setting up my mislynch guys.

Re: Cavalier of the Abyss Mafia [Game Over, Town Wins]
« Reply #1180 on: July 24, 2011, 05:58:38 AM »
I wouldn't have set up your mislynch if I had seen your new avatar. That's right up there with K4U on the "too cute to kill" list.

This post will probaby look hilarious when you change it in a month or so.

capt. h

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Re: Cavalier of the Abyss Mafia [Game Over, Town Wins]
« Reply #1181 on: July 24, 2011, 06:01:11 AM »
Town
- Book of the Past/Caladbolg (Conquerer): 1-shot Dayvig. Would change to Caladbolg and become Death Miller. At night, he can pick between certain orbs to find out that certain roles exist in the game.

6) If a mod says it is true, it is true. If we deem you are violating a rule, written or not, you are violating a rule and we will act accordingly.

 ???

Death millers are contraversal because for a death miller to be a role, should the death miller be killed at some point in the game a mod would be forced to lie to the players about the alignment of the death miller.

I actually like the idea of a death miller, but it contradicts rule 6.

EDIT: Even with that, this was probably my favorite setup yet.

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Re: Cavalier of the Abyss Mafia [Game Over, Town Wins]
« Reply #1182 on: July 24, 2011, 06:02:27 AM »
Actually I was thinking about changing my avatar today. But I decided to wait a bit longer.

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Re: Cavalier of the Abyss Mafia [Game Over, Town Wins]
« Reply #1183 on: July 24, 2011, 06:02:53 AM »
Night Actions (which Shadoweh would have seen most of, but she JUST couldn't handle it)

Night 1:
- Iffrita submits Night Kill on Navarus (success)
- Depore submits Cop Immunity on Iffrita (fails)
- Yuan submits Jailkeep on Mala (success)
- Miya submits Track on Iffrita (success)
- Orwen submits Roleblock on Depore (success)
- Book of the Past breaks red Orb (learns there is a Tracker)
- Mala submits Commute on Iffrita (fails due to Yuan)
- Navarus submits CorpseHunt on Just (success)
- One submits Bodyguard on Book of the Past (success)
- Moonin submits Psycholink (Night Neighborize) on Navarus (fails to establish due to NK)

EDIT: Roleblock priority puts Yuan highest, so no block on Iffri-chan~

Night 2:
- Depore submits Night Kill on Mala (success)
- Yuan submits Jailkeep on Xix (success)
- Xix is notified he tried to roleblock someone and was roleblocked.
- Caladbolg breaks green Orb (learns there is a Town-aligned Treestump)
- Mala submits Commute on Mikhail (success)
- One submits Bodyguard on Miya (success)
- Miya submits Watch on herself (sees One)
- Moonin submits Psycholink (Night Neighborize) on Caladbolg (success)

Night 3:
- Depore submits Night Kill on One (success)
- Moonin submits DreamEat on One (success, gets non-sensical reply from Bard)
- Miya submits Track on Depore (does not see Depore due to ninja)
- Caladbolg breaks yellow orb (learns there is a Neighborizer)
- One submits Bodyguard on Miya (success and gets Town result on Miya)

Night 4:
- Depore submits Night Kill on Miya (success)

capt.h: It was a Day Vig, so it's up to the Day Vig to tell everyone he was a Death Miller. We did not think there would be any complaints about that.
« Last Edit: July 24, 2011, 06:08:22 AM by Kiro »

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Re: Cavalier of the Abyss Mafia [Game Over, Town Wins]
« Reply #1184 on: July 24, 2011, 06:04:21 AM »
This set up was really, really town sided. I'm kind of impressed we got to 3 person lylo.


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Re: Cavalier of the Abyss Mafia [Game Over, Town Wins]
« Reply #1185 on: July 24, 2011, 06:07:17 AM »
Alright, the basics are all there. I will let Bard provide his comments about the setup and game first.

Do note, if people yell at Bard only, I will be extremely pissed. The co-mods rightfully deserve blame as well.

UK: I will withhold commenting on that until Bard states his thoughts first.

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Re: Cavalier of the Abyss Mafia [Game Over, Town Wins]
« Reply #1186 on: July 24, 2011, 06:09:44 AM »
I looked upon the setup and thought 'DotS balance' :V

Yes it was town favoured, but seeing as you got to such an endgame because of tripping over the roles, it sorta worked out as intended.

capt. h

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Re: Cavalier of the Abyss Mafia [Game Over, Town Wins]
« Reply #1187 on: July 24, 2011, 06:14:47 AM »
This set up was really, really town sided. I'm kind of impressed we got to 3 person lylo.

I don't think it was too town sided myself.

While there were a lot of powerful town roles, there was only one even-day cop (while the other roles were useful they didn't exactly confirm scum by themselves), and on the Wiki Xix's role is considered a liability for town. Scum also had a lot of immunities on their side, should they choose to use it, and their roleblock was the highest priotiy in the game.

Mind you, I'm thinking of the typical 1 goon, 1 scum roleblocker, 1 doc, and 1 cop as the ideal level of balance for mafia.

Re: Cavalier of the Abyss Mafia [Game Over, Town Wins]
« Reply #1188 on: July 24, 2011, 06:28:45 AM »
I have no real intention of yelling at anybody. :shrug: I didn't like the set-up's balance, but I thought it was interesting and I wouldn't actually consider raging at the actual mod over a set-up unless they actually made it ridiculously slanted on purpose.

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Re: Cavalier of the Abyss Mafia [Game Over, Town Wins]
« Reply #1189 on: July 24, 2011, 06:30:29 AM »
Additional note:

Night 3 was a pre-determined event: a cleansing of corpses. This removed all of the dead people from Mikhail's ##Evocate list, Navarus' Corpsehunt, etc. At that point, Mikhail's only possible ##Evocate target at Day 4 was One.

Re: Cavalier of the Abyss Mafia [Game Over, Town Wins]
« Reply #1190 on: July 24, 2011, 06:30:58 AM »
Why was I never given the deadguy quicktopic, then? That's more rage-worthy than anything else that happened in this game.

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Re: Cavalier of the Abyss Mafia [Game Over, Town Wins]
« Reply #1191 on: July 24, 2011, 06:37:03 AM »
Was this a town-only graveyard?


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Re: Cavalier of the Abyss Mafia [Game Over, Town Wins]
« Reply #1192 on: July 24, 2011, 06:37:49 AM »
It had Shadoweh, so no.

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Re: Cavalier of the Abyss Mafia [Game Over, Town Wins]
« Reply #1193 on: July 24, 2011, 06:40:08 AM »
Shadoweh was scum-lite. She got lynched D1, JUST like a good ITP.  :3
Edit: Oh that's what you said.


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Re: Cavalier of the Abyss Mafia [Game Over, Town Wins]
« Reply #1194 on: July 24, 2011, 07:24:09 AM »
;_; Stoooop iiiiiit noooo go vote someone else guys cmon guuuuuys


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Re: Cavalier of the Abyss Mafia [Game Over, Town Wins]
« Reply #1195 on: July 24, 2011, 07:40:17 AM »
I think we simply forgot to give you the link.

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Re: Cavalier of the Abyss Mafia [Game Over, Town Wins]
« Reply #1196 on: July 24, 2011, 08:42:37 AM »
<04:37:34> ‎"PX_‎"‎: Looks like Shadoweh got her...
<04:37:37> ‎"PX_‎"‎: *shades*
<04:37:40> ‎"Dormio‎"‎: JUST DESSERTS
<04:37:41> ‎"PX_‎"‎: :V
<04:37:56> ‎"PX_‎"‎: YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

8)


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Re: Cavalier of the Abyss Mafia [Game Over, Town Wins]
« Reply #1197 on: July 24, 2011, 11:31:05 AM »
^_^

If it's any consolation to my god-awful town reads, I would have voted Depore without Conq's catch on Gut alone.

Why couldn't I revive Miya again?

Mod interference?

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Re: Cavalier of the Abyss Mafia [Game Over, Town Wins]
« Reply #1198 on: July 24, 2011, 12:14:06 PM »
Wouldn't it have pretty much caused you to win?

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Re: Cavalier of the Abyss Mafia [Game Over, Town Wins]
« Reply #1199 on: July 24, 2011, 01:20:31 PM »
I don't think it was too town sided myself.

While there were a lot of powerful town roles, there was only one even-day cop (while the other roles were useful they didn't exactly confirm scum by themselves), and on the Wiki Xix's role is considered a liability for town. Scum also had a lot of immunities on their side, should they choose to use it, and their roleblock was the highest priotiy in the game.

Mind you, I'm thinking of the typical 1 goon, 1 scum roleblocker, 1 doc, and 1 cop as the ideal level of balance for mafia.

You underestimate the power of a dead confirmed townie coming back not only once, but every day. You don't NEED a bunch of investigative roles for a town sided game. Also, do you REALLY think Xix's role was anti town? Do you *not* remember Diavolo? Xix had a third of that. Even a third is pretty damn powerful. Just think if *I* had had that role.

The scum had immunities that only tended to go into affect while they were killing.

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Also, I'm not intending to yell at anyone about this. Sorry if it seemed that way...

@Mikhail: I actually kind of figured you would. When I saw you Evocate Miya I was like "GOD NO WHYYYYYYYYYYY!" because unless she self watched she was probably going to choo choo into Caladbook (Though if this is untrue, please correct me).