I underestimated my ability to procrastinate. Don't worry though, I was able to use my ungodly procrastination skills to put off sleeping as well. Unfortunately, I'll crash after this and won't be able to make it for deadline.
First, Defense.
I voted Xix because I like competing bandwagons. I wish there were more competing bandwagons. Then we could have had all 7 townies who were here all day discussing more than four scum.
Also, yes, I backtracked on One. I was voting him for something I later considered a null-tell. I was wrong, I realized I was wrong, I took measures to correct myself. Is this scummy?
Second, Clearification~
I missed Depore's second argument. I'm assuming it's
post 86. Measuring for bad/low content that early in the game is useless, since you could throw it to all but paragons of townies and have it stick very well. The rest of the comment on Xix seems to actually be setting up for backtrack by inserting how somewhat town he might possibly be.
@Mala: When I said you noted casual observations, I was saying that Depore actually seemed to be parroting you. I also disagreed with what I saw in Depore's post with the vote, and when I noticed the similarities in logic, I disapproved your vote just the same as I disapproved Depore's. I picked Depore ahead of Mala because of this parrot. It might also have to do with subconcious reasons, like having looked at Depore first, but I felt She was worse than Mala when I voted.
Someone asked what I would think of Xix if not for the wagon. The answer is nothing. If the wagon never happened, I either would have kept my vote, or lost interest and moved my vote on whatever other basis there would have been at the time. There's no point to the hypothetical of how I feel without the wagon, since without the wagon, there'd be nothing to feel.
Lastly, Suspicions.
I don't see the case on Just at all. The only case I would consider bandwagoning for is Nava-chan's case. And that's a lie, because I would never bandwagon a case that was mostly "My gut is aching so hard" Unless I had a cop result that Nava-chan was town. If people could restate their cases clearly, that would help.
One and Depore are both deflecting a lot. Depore is more obvious, but then again, that's because she's new. I'm starting to dislike One again, since I'm not catching many posts where he's actually being suspicious of people.
Depore Specifically, has made movements that make me certain she's making a few scumslips, but most of it is based on certain people being scum, so I'll wait until we have a few under our belt before going in depth.
I don't like Depore's method of rating people early on. Rating people based on activity and content is too impersonal. It's over analytical to the point where it excludes town effort. It even seems to exclude fake-town effort. It's also got the triple scumvote-bait of being hard to poke holes into, being a place to put and keep a rather easy vote and pushing the largest suspicions onto people who aren't likely to flip, thereby stalling the chance of getting a serious eyeing.
As for Mala, I don't enjoy the fact that She's pushing a half-bad case on me. I am going to let it slide, because while it is half-bad, it's also half-not-bad, and I can't exactly pick out if it's town making an earnest case, or scum pushing as many of my flaws into the light as possible. Aside from the case on me, I don't see anything too bad. I will note that the case on me does fit the last two parts of why I disagreed with Depore's scumhunting method, so it's safe to say that Mala is at least two thirds as bad as Depore is.
Everyone else is either Null or Town, and simultaneously not under fire.
I was sold on the One case Yuan made, and was planning to switch to him in this post, but reading it over again, my strongest feeling is still that Depore is acting in scum self-interest. I'll try to stay up a little more and gauge the reaction to my post, since I could go either way between the two of them.
